A NEW Adventure Jacket - THE OUTCAST Jacket Review
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I’m slightly confused about this being a collaboration as this jacket appears to be identical to the Defense Mechanisms jacket, down to the fabric and color ways, which has been available for some time now and is owned by the same people as Enlightened Equipment. Maybe I’m missing something? Regardless, happy to see it being marketed to the hiking audience as well.
The size chart photo is even the same. Wouldn't mind the rebrand if it weren't for Darwin saying he invented it.
It's telling that there's been no response to this comment from Darwin/Evolved Supply Co. The jacket looks great but I hate this kind of behind the scenes shenanigans. Just be up front with us. If there's something different about it than the Defense Mechanisms jacket, tell us. If it's the same, then why isn't it priced the same, other than making an extra buck? I want to give them the benefit of the doubt, but the radio silence is not helping at all.
@@StephenHutson Perhaps it felt antagonistic. I am still genuinely interested in whether I have misunderstood the design and there is some type of functional difference between them. A close friend of mine has had the DM jacket for a few years now and absolutely adores it. Also, for reference, I believe that the jacket is slightly (almost not) cheaper through DM.
Great Video, Great Jacket! 🔥 🎉 😁
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What makes this different than say an atom lt? It visibly and on paper looks quite similar even the price point is similar.
your growth has inspired me so much. thank you for all your old and new content!! love you man be safe out there
Appreciate the kind words! ❤️
Had the outcast for a few weeks and love the fit and feel. Will be taking it on a bike packing trip in a few weeks.
I’ve been wanting an EE Torrid like you’ve designed for a couple of years now. Amazing!!!
I absolutely love mine. Fits me perfectly!!
Do you have any advice on sizing based on your experience?
There is a sizing chart on the product page on the site. 🤙
A real beauty! Seems to do it all. Thanks Darwin
When I’m ready for a new jacket, I’ll be checking this one out.
So glad to see big boy sizes!
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Looks sweet!!
Looks really good and very useful. Have a great day.
Right off the bat I appreciate all of the sizes
We wanted to make it a great jacket for EVERYONE! ❤️
Really appreciate the minimalist branding!
Oh Yeah!
Looks very similar to the Outdoor Vitals Vario, this looks pretty awesome man. Interested to see some reviews on it! Looks extra comfy, the side panels seem dope.
I waited to see it on you because i have long arm to ! It looked very good ! I have my eye on the olive hooded version and it would match with the Ranger pack that i dream of !! ❤🔥
It would look in my video 👀
Excellent upgrade to the Torrid. Nice. +1
I've had my Outcast for about a month now and it completely lives up to the hype. My new go-to jacket!!!
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Any recommendations on sizing based on your experience?
@@matthewboggs8431 sizing is pretty accurate from my experience but I would error on the side of sizing up.
@@matthewboggs8431 it fits true to size for me. I'm 6'1 175 and the medium fits me perfectly.
Looks great Darwin 👍👍👍.
Thanks 👍
Looks like a solid piece of gear. My Patagucci is still running strong though. This is definitely a on the ponderance once I burn through that.
Good to see you back on RUclips.
Hey, thanks! Been “Back” for a while now 😉
@@DarwinOnthetrail I know, just felt like saying it!
Nice, you took care of 2 of my biggest complains with other puffy jackets.
As an athletic guy with wider lats, the other jackets are most often super tight and limit my range of motion, like when I try to bring my arms forward(in a hug motion). And I can't stand the super shiny look (like the torrid), so this one looks like I could wear it anywhere.
Hope you dig it if you check it out! 🤙
Getting one
This is amazing . Evolved supply Co. is getting way up there 😁
Thanks!
Great Jacket 🎉
Already got one❤
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So are those stretch panels still water repellent? We get a lot of sideways rain here in Northwestern Europe so that's key information 😅. This jacket looks really smart both literally and figuratively! I hope you've enjoyed wearing it around the Mont Blanc 😊
Very nice jacket. It appears to compete with the Arc’tery Atom, which is also a very good piece of kit. How is it differentiated from the Atom and how is it superior?
Looks a lot like my Atom LT.
I’m hoping it fits more like the leaf rather than the standard commercial atom since you can’t directly get the leaf version anymore
Ok Sunsets is seriously thinking about getting one and trying this out. Love the stretchy side panels and around cuffs and the clean look - could totally wear this out to dinner, etc! Thanks Darwin! - Chica
We think it’s pretty shnazy 🕺
Hope you guys are doing good! ❤️
A very nice looking jacket.
How’s the packability?
Nice looking bit of kit. How small does it pack down? and do you ship to Australia?
Packs pretty small for a synthetic jacket. Yes, we ship anywhere internationally!
How cold has it been tested to? Because it gets bloody cold here sometimes ( -30 to -40c)
how compressable is it? does it pack-in similar to the Torrid?
Dear Santa... 😂❤
Darwin is the King. 👑
Hi Darwin. Any idea what temperature the jacket would be comfortable down to (°C or °F)? Been on Evolved Supply Co, EE and Climashields' websites but could not see this. Thanks for uploading.
hey Darwin, it was great to meet in grindlewald a couple of weeks ago. do you have a european distributer
This is great! I’m in the market for a new all around jacket. I’m also glad to see one of the “old” hiking RUclipsrs taking it to the next step.
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Not in the market for a new jacket at current time. But this is on my list. I think when somebody who has lived the lifestyle make a product they have an insight that is unprecedented. Looks like a great jacket for all around like stated
I'm stuck between a medium and a large. Mediums are always too tight through the shoulders and a large is always too big in the waist.
Which size do you suggest? Thanks!
Do all the black ones have green liners like the one he is wearing? What color are the liners of the green jacket?
I like the jacket it looks very comfortable I like the design and the colors. I will definitely check it out and do a review on my channel.
Thanks! We’re pretty proud of it!
Hi. Couldn’t find a size chart on the website. I’m a 5ft 6, medium built guy. What size should I pick?
Hello from Japan,
I was just about to order torrid apex with a feeling of a bit of compromise.
And now I saw this video!
You said that you are wearing Msize, and may I ask your height? Since I don’t trust the size chart for apparel…
Jacket looks dope - please make a black sun hoody 😢
Is the hood removable?
How well does the jacket pack down? Can i shove it into a small stuff sack?
It packs down pretty small for a Synthetic Jacket
Arcteryx Atom LT
Great to see your range coming to fruition Darwin. We’ve been anticipating this jacket with bated breath. Cannot wait to review some reviews, wait for gen 2 (😊) then place my order.
Not waiting for gen 2. I’ll pair this with my Rab Alpha Flash for winter adventures…can’t wait to try.
Hope you enjoy it!
To me this looks like the Arcteryx Atom Jacket from their Leaf line, I am owning since years. What was the point to copy this already perfect product?
Hey mate, just have to say, Looks like a great product. very good colour choice. This must have taken a lot of work to organise and have available for sale. Thank you :)
Looks really good. Not a deal breaker, but personally I prefer adjustable cuffs. Reminds me about my Arcteryx Atom LT Hoody but seems a bit lighter and with a longer back. Have to consider if it's worth upgrading.
Thanks!
I agree on the adjustable cuffs, I wear a watch and the non adjustable cuffs always ride up over the watch.
Adjustable cuffs stretch out anyways. You’re actually better off with the elastic cuffs that’re stitched in, as opposed to flimsy shockcord/elastic bands. Plus, having cordage is just ugly. I think Darwin nailed it on the head.
I like the new jacket, but I do like my "trash" Torrid too, so I see what you mean. But I kinda have some similar for everyday life. The Torrid is also as it is, part of the Thru hiker or backpacker look. So I kinda got used to it. Even though it looks strange.
There is one major CON and actually a dangerous one too to the EE Torid jacket. And thats is when you are cold and wet.. I got hypthermic once me an dmy wife during the Across Norway hike last summer. The jacket is nearly impossible to put on when your wet.. Also I have experience that the thin material get holes quick close to a warm oven pipe or bon fire. They should have some replacement patches since Tear Aid didnt exactly make it look pretty after repair.
Is the sizing the same as the torrid jacket? Does it fit tighter than the torrid? I wear a large in the torrid
It’s an arctyrex atom lt you can walk into any rei and try one on for reference.
Neat but will stick with decathlon jacket at 1/2 the price for around town Colorado + day hikes, torrid for backpacking
Very like the Arc'teryx Atom LT ? Same price and all. Nice jacket.
Exactly the same jacket kind of a straight up lie since Darwin is Claiming he designed this jacket. It’s literally an atom lt it’s the exact same pattern.
Darvin is the new 🦉OV
Looks cool af, unfortunately I need to vent my cuffs a lot so this won’t suit me.
I’ll buy it anyway though.
All larger sizes are sold out?
Nope. As of now, all sizes are still in stock
Still looking for a jacket with zip off arms.
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This is just an Arcteryx Atom LT hoody right?? I'm not complaining, I have the Atom (for nearly a decade BTW!) as well as an EE Torrid, but, right down to the side panels and cuffs - it's an Atom LT hoody! 😂
Very good question. I have posted a question to Darwin asking how the Torrid is different and, in particular, how it is superior to the Atom. Arc’teryx is very expensive in Australia so, if the Torrid, after international postage (US postage is horribly expensive), is equivalent but cheaper then it would be preferable to the Atom. If not, then there would be no advantage in this country and, actually, it would be at a disadvantage because we have Arc’teryx stores here that can provide service and support.
@@Petychka yeh I'm in Australia too, honestly the main and only difference I can see is the slim cut, my L atom was always a bit boxy around the middle for my 80kg 188cm (104 chest) . This EE SEEMS to have addressed that..🤞
Well I haven't seen either one in person, but from looking at a bunch of pictures it seems different in a number of significant ways. Not to mention the Atom LT is discontinued.
The Outcast has a different face fabric than the Atom for durability (30D vs 20D), the cuffs are cut differently for a better fit for different size wrists, the synthetic fill is different (Climashield Apex vs Coreloft), different materials on the side panels (Polartec Hard-Faced Fleece vs Stretch Fleece), a longer droptail so the jacket doesn't ride up while wearing a pack, cycling, climbing and lastly a slightly different cut for amazing range of motion. It's also cheaper!
I was going to ask if made in USA but looks like it is.
Yes it is!
Thank you so much for including a full range of sizes up to 3X not just for men but for women as well. So many of the popular companies do not do this which is very discouraging for those of us at the beginning of our journey who hope to lose weight but are not yet in that XL or L size.
I should add… how about some nice, bright colours? There is no reason why trekking gear can’t look great as well as performing well. To see how it is done, have a look at La Sportiva. And , by the way, that would differentiate the Torrid from Arc’teryx, which would go a long way to solving the significant problem of competition from that serious and strong competitor.
No inner pockets?
Nope. We actually tried. Without extra external seams (baffles) it would have caused stuff in the jacket to sag.
Can your jacket buy from EU country? Great Job!
We ship everywhere internationally, yes!
Tall sizes would be highly appreciated!
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Wife was gonna buy one but needs purple. Get on it man! Looks good but women's colors would be appreciated.
Purple? Nah... 😂
Great Jacket!! But at the end nothing absolutely new. I have since years the ATOM Jacket from Arcteryx. This is mainly the same...
“Well, hello folks.” WE ARE OFF THE RAILS! PANDEMONIUM!
Not liking that there is no answer to ANY of the relevant questions regarding what temp the jacket is good for, or why the extreme similarities to the Defence Mechanisms jacket if this really is a newly developed jacket.
Also how does it differ from the torrid. Is it as warm or meant to be used for different things.
And why no reviews out anywhere yet? It looks awesome. But is it a better looking torrid or more of an Active Insulation piece?
So many questions. And so few answers. Except for ”thanx” or ”hope you check it out”
Mr Durston has really made the industry spoiled with his all-seeing -customer service but answer some questions at least! 🌸
I collect jackets. Is that weird?
Made in the USA?
Winona, Minnesota, USA
Yep!
Waterproof zipper??????
So an Arc'teryx Atom LT for $20 less
Exactly what I was thinking
$20 buys you a trowel or four gas canisters. Worth it.
Not exactly. Also this jacket is made in the US & has a different fit.
You hiring ?
Always nervous about athletic cut with a gut, any idea if this is gut friendly?
Isnt this just the helion jacket… wait it is. Its the exact same jacket
"promosm"
Ok so it’s an Atom LT?
Isn’t this just blatantly ripping off the Arc’Teryx Atom jacket?
$240? In this economy?
Cottage, schmottage. Only a few elites can afford anything close to that.
It’s almost exactly the same as the Arcteryx Atom LT jacket.
Well I haven't seen either one in person, but from looking at a bunch of pictures it seems different in a number of significant ways. Not to mention the Atom LT is discontinued.
if i was the creator of this video id title it Beard with a capital NO
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@ericagardens1234 is on drugs. Ignore her, Darwin.
Darwin, I have watched your videos for years. Gained great insights to hiking. However, teaming up with Enlightened Equipment is a problem. They denied to repair a very expensive, powder Down quilt, I bought from them when the down migrated and all I asked for was to add down on empty baffles. Willing to pay for work and additional down.
Their answer was “we don’t do that anymore since we sold to a major company.”
What? Deny a repair?
Unacceptable. Add to that a very unexpected, inappropriate Woke message about LGBQ+ affiliation.
I could care less about gender/social issues, I just want dependable, high quality camping gear. Picking sides on social issues is a business killer. I will never buy a product from enlightened again. They are dead to me.
Snowflake
Seriously ,you dump us viewers and then come back with a bunch of commercials for your own products. Whatever dude!
Dumped? Also.. the irony of this comment is that, all my old videos were basically commercials for a bunch of other products that I had nothing to do with & didn't deigns/develop. No problem there though?
It’s too heavy and bulky for me
hmmm. to me personally, because of the side panels, it looks more like a hiking jacket or outdoor gear than the torrid. the torrid looks more like regular street wear to me.
i would definitely wear it for hiking and outdoorsy things, but it would need to come in actual colors. like these: 🟧🟦🟨🟪🟥.