Solid State Tubes 1L6 Zenith Transoceanic Performance Test Several Radios

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  • @Dutch-linux
    @Dutch-linux 7 месяцев назад +26

    that is a great solution for when you can't find real tubes anymore you drop in one of the solid state ones and you can still save the old tube radio i am very impressed

  • @bigguyprepper
    @bigguyprepper 7 месяцев назад +10

    This is super cool, I hope they patent these and are able to make them commercially. Being able to keep these old radios alive is getting harder and harder.

  • @joshuaboxer4434
    @joshuaboxer4434 7 месяцев назад +9

    Hi, I'm from Australia and along with other Aussies I know really enjoy your videos. On a personal note my main focus has been tube public address amplifiers. Have done a few radios but have never been comfortable doing them. But watching your process of fault finding have gotten comfortable enough to even tackle a tube TV and a Novelty Radio with success. Thank You

  • @NoPegs
    @NoPegs 7 месяцев назад +41

    Woohoo! 2+ hours of Shango!

    • @One-Crazy-Cat
      @One-Crazy-Cat 7 месяцев назад +1

      My life is now complete. 😂

  • @WECB640
    @WECB640 7 месяцев назад +57

    I believe what you have is "parasitic oscillation" from too much gain on the 1L6 solid state tube. (It's acting like a regen receiver from positive feedback) There is a ferrite bead inside the tube, and perhaps this is not sufficient, and/or the fT of the transistors used greatly exceed that of the original tube. Either way, this should be an easy fix with a simple low pass filter (RC type) inside the SS tube. I think this is a fantastic improvement and will really breathe new life into these old classic radios. 73

    • @tommybewick
      @tommybewick 7 месяцев назад +5

      Doesn't fix poor service and leaves him with more than one that don't work.

    • @barrymayson2492
      @barrymayson2492 7 месяцев назад

      I think you're right about the parasitic oscillation, very difficult to get rid of it sometimes. And can be location specific as well. They drive me nuts when everything works on the bench as soon as you put it in the case it oscillates.

    • @thatampguy
      @thatampguy 7 месяцев назад

      Dingding! Gain issue I bet. Mfg shouldn't be sending product out expecting consumers to beta test.

  • @christophero1969
    @christophero1969 7 месяцев назад +14

    The filament resistors need to be comprised of 2 resistors in series with a 0.022 cap across each one and a 220pf connected in between them to ground. The regulator tube replacement should also have 2 mini LEDs to indicate power in(yellow) and power out(green) status, but nothing too bright or fancy is needed. This would help with troubleshooting, oscillations and lowering the noise floor. Also making ALL resistors 0.5% tolerance would help with heating drift. Love the work, truly needed and genius idea! EDIT: If a resistor is used on the ground pin of the voltage regulator, then that resistor should be by-passed to ground with a 220pf capacitor to avoid "ground-bounce".

  • @christophero1969
    @christophero1969 7 месяцев назад +29

    Please post an update video, as this work improves. I also enjoy your other channel.

    • @AlexSi-AS
      @AlexSi-AS 7 месяцев назад +1

      Qual seria o outro canal? Obrigado!

    • @carolriley9392
      @carolriley9392 7 месяцев назад

      ​@AlexandreSi 1:27:09 lva-ho4jv mine explorer s

    • @shango066
      @shango066  6 месяцев назад +1

      There is one coming as part of a desert trip and testing some new radios

    • @Roland_Tr909_Swing
      @Roland_Tr909_Swing 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@shango066would love you to do a sony icf-2001d ( the daddy) dx test .I can pick up tenerife from Wales UK on AM radio.with an AN200 Car Tunable Mediumwave MW Loop Antenna Portable from amazon

  • @carolriley9392
    @carolriley9392 7 месяцев назад +16

    So far i have 6 transoceanics including the first one , the 7g605 bomber! I love these radios! So good to have shango066 demo these solid state replacement s.

    • @vcv6560
      @vcv6560 7 месяцев назад +4

      Speaking of the Loktal period of tubes I tried the 1LA6 substitute (with adapter socket) and was not impressed. So any good MOSFET approach gets my attention.

    • @garymckee8857
      @garymckee8857 7 месяцев назад +2

      I have always wanted a Trans-Oceaniac. l haven't seen one for sale in my area so l can check it out in person.

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 7 месяцев назад +1

      Back when I was born in 1950s my dad had a trans- oceanic. I remember it so very slightly. He used to tell about running it on batteries when there weren't many portable battery powered radios.
      We had a number of old radios around the house. One of my earliest memories was of a floor model radio and a radio morning show my mom used to listen to that used to irritate me and I wanted to change the station.
      While I knew how to do that I couldn't reach the knobs. My memory is of a radio that is like 8 ft tall. ( I was very little ).
      Also had an old Philco cathedral 1934 model B that I still have today. I remember taking one of the 6- pin tubes out when I was about 5 and having a hard time getting it back in.
      When I was about 35 I found an old trans- oceanic that still worked and I cleaned it up and gave it to my dad for a present. He had fun with it for awhile.
      When I was about 25 my dad gave me the remains of an old radio he had in a box somewhere. He said it belonged to one of my aunts. It was one of the original battery powered radios in Detroit, or the first model sold, but it was very small and used these low- power vacuum tubes like you have here. I couldn't make it work. If I had it now maybe. With people like Shango066 to help me.
      The trans- oceanic my dad had was a strange model, every one I ever saw was close, yet different. It had different dial. Used to have a picture of it sonewhere.

    • @carolriley9392
      @carolriley9392 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@garymckee8857 I remember my first one i seen. A friend told me about a radio he had and when he brought it to me, i almost lost my composure! But there it was , a Zenith transoceanic r3000! Very good quality radio!

  • @tedcowart3647
    @tedcowart3647 7 месяцев назад +7

    A 2 plus hour shango video to start the weekend is fantastic! And its about one of my favorite radios, I have 10 of the tube type models and many more of the transistor models. These solid state replacements have been around for a while and I've always been courious about them how they performed. I think I might get one of the the ones with the filter and one audio output tube to try out. I'll pass on the 1L6 for now. Thanks for a great video! Ted

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 7 месяцев назад +6

    I always like when you bring the sets out to the desert to test them.

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 7 месяцев назад +1

      Another good person to listen to shortwave radios in the desert with is Eric Dollard. He will tell you what every single noise is.

  • @johnsampson1096
    @johnsampson1096 7 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks, Dan for the detailed, informative video on these solid state replacement devices. I bought a 1l6 solid state replacement off of ebay years ago. It was an earlier version and did little testing on the high end of the broadcast band. I was impressed by how well the shortwave was working at the time. Testing is now on my mind. I was at a New England hamfest recently and spotted a mint transoceanic case. It was in real good shape and it was only 20 bucks. Kicking myself for not getting it. Love your desert dxing episodes. It seems tranquil there.

  • @CARL557511
    @CARL557511 7 месяцев назад +42

    At 1:10 you are hearing that old preacher dude that still haunts the airwaves😂

    • @douggrisack5916
      @douggrisack5916 7 месяцев назад +10

      Brother Stair! He died but still haunts shortwave. Not without controversy is he.

    • @billmyke746
      @billmyke746 7 месяцев назад +5

      The Antique Preacher.
      Ugh.

    • @W1RMD
      @W1RMD 7 месяцев назад +12

      Brother Scare! S-T-A-I-R. I can't believe his voice still penetrates the ether from beyond. I guess they DO have radio in hell! I stand a chance! It's where the lost souls of all of the EOL tv's went.

    • @jassenjj
      @jassenjj 7 месяцев назад +9

      1:10:13 for the curious...

    • @jonathanhughes380
      @jonathanhughes380 7 месяцев назад

      I have picked that up on short wave LOL

  • @directcurrent5751
    @directcurrent5751 7 месяцев назад +9

    I bought a Zenith Oceaniawhatev from eBay. It had all original Zenith tubes! But I couldn't get anything on shortwave so I sold it on CL. I was impressed the tubes worked fine after so many years. Zenith really built stuff for the long run.

  • @josepheccles9341
    @josepheccles9341 7 месяцев назад +9

    Two things come to my mind in the solid state tube is that tubes are such high impedance device compared to solid state, and the series resistor in the filament can generate noise and may induce noise in the sensitive .

    • @Retep4565
      @Retep4565 7 месяцев назад +6

      I assume they used FET's in these tube replacements. Unlike bipolar transistors, FET's have a very high input impedance and have characteristics more similar to vacuum tubes.

    • @geoffroberts1126
      @geoffroberts1126 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@Retep4565 Yes, valves are very much a voltage controlled device, bipolar transistors are current controlled, and FETs and MOSFETs are also voltage operated.

    • @johnnytacokleinschmidt515
      @johnnytacokleinschmidt515 7 месяцев назад

      1:05:00 I think the bankruptcy financial management forced him to fold the WWCR2 shortwave service. It's a damn shame.

  • @defaultuserid1559
    @defaultuserid1559 7 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks. This answered a lot of my questions about solid state replacement bulbs.

  • @guyf3311
    @guyf3311 25 дней назад

    When you get really bad dirty solder joints like that a lot of times it's easier and faster to use a good solder Flux/paste heat & remove solder completely. Then resolder part/joint with new good solder for a good connection. Sometimes we forget the simple things in life while trying to fix a stubborn radio/TV. Love watching your channel. Don't stop the commentary I love your troubleshooting out loud and in action. Thanks for sharing.

  • @FindLiberty
    @FindLiberty 7 месяцев назад +3

    2 hours of joy... thanks for making this video!

  • @vcv6560
    @vcv6560 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is the MOSFET 'bomb' of vacuum tube solid state; its so good to see the 'TO back on the road, its fun to see they've split the 1U4 design to IF amp version that includes a ceramic filter, i've yet to try it myself. For whatever its worth I've lost more 3v4 to use (tube burn out) than any other in the TOs I've run.

  • @simonkormendy849
    @simonkormendy849 7 месяцев назад

    Wow, pretty amazing that you can get solid-state replacements for pretty much all those tubes.

  • @jonathanhughes380
    @jonathanhughes380 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is so cool, i have been waiting for this this to come out. Thank you shango. I built a simple low power LC transmitter with a 3Q4 Power Output tube. So i could broadcast to my 1936 sears silver tone 10 tube radio I restored. I did not want add a jack and make a hole in the chassis. I wanted to hear what it would be like to hear music transmitted on a tube transmitter and received by a tube radio.

  • @SpinStar1956
    @SpinStar1956 7 месяцев назад +9

    Shango: I was surprised that your Solid-State Tube Guy (SSTG) (and after several conversations) did not ask if you could use your spectrum-analyzer (SA) to take a few measurements.
    You definitely have phase-noise in the mixer. How it gets there can take on many reasons but I personally feel that you are getting some higher parasitic-oscillations. When I looked on eBay for the 1L6 replacement, he mentioned using a dual-gate MOSFET. There are a lot of BF998 dual-gate MOSFETs that are presently being dumped on the market, so my bet is one of those or its cousins. Anyway, that is a UHF-MOSFET and extreme measures have to be taken to keep them from 'taking-off' and giving this kind of hash. Also, SS replacements have been around since the 60's using all manner of transistors. And the mixer is usually your Waterloo when it comes to adapting them to replace tubes mainly due to the vast impedance/capacitance differences.
    The biggest problem is the lead-dress that is inherent in a radio of this type. I did see a ferrite bead but just using one does not guarantee suppression.
    What would be interesting for you to do, is to take your spectrum analyzer and first look at the LO and see what the spectral-purity of the LO is. Vary the VFO between the noisey frequency and then the clean, and see if you see noise in the LO's sidebands. Next, if it looks clean then look at the IF port and see if it is there. If the LO is clean but not the IF port, then there is a termination problem with the circuit for this small-band of frequencies.
    You mentioned you talked with SSTG about the Q, which leads me to think that he suspicions the LO; if it was just one frequency band (not a multi-band radio) then a filter in the LO's feedback-path could solve it. But since this LO has to work in several bands, this would not work without switching. There is a trick you could try, which is to place a shunt (to ground) capacitor of very low value that would not have significant reactance at HF but would spoil the feedback loop at VHF; so with a capacitor of a few pF, try placing it n first the feedback path, then on the main output.
    As you suspicioned, it has to be ultimately-solved within the tube-replacement; but in his defense, it is hard to anticipate every scenario that can turn into a VHF oscillator.
    So, I hope you try looking at the two conditions with a SA and maybe showing us what you found.
    Also, enjoy the long-format videos! 73...

    • @Dazzwidd
      @Dazzwidd 4 месяца назад

      Interesting thoughts, I doubt these are Mosfets of that type because of the voltages involved- I am very interested to see schematics for them. With these frequencies you are definitely better off with a much lower frequency device because of the issue of oscillation.

    • @Dazzwidd
      @Dazzwidd 4 месяца назад

      BTW. I had a similar idea of external feedback on the back of the tube socket. Left the idea at that though without thinking much about it

  • @proudsnowtiger
    @proudsnowtiger 7 месяцев назад +4

    I remember a 70s article in, I think, Popular Electronics called Bew Wine For Old Bottles, which was a DIY guide to building MOSFET based replacements for boatamchor tubes. Some diggeremt challenges, but the idea has some history.

  • @moisesalexandrewielckensci3237
    @moisesalexandrewielckensci3237 6 месяцев назад +1

    Congratulations, how interesting! It appears that the 1L6 tube is oscillating because the gain is too high.
    But fixing this, whatever it is, will be a great replacement for the original valve.

  • @andygoldensixties4201
    @andygoldensixties4201 7 месяцев назад +1

    amazing way of saving old tube equipment

  • @stirlingschmidt6325
    @stirlingschmidt6325 7 месяцев назад

    As always, thank you sir for taking your time to share these with us! I've always thought that SS replacements for tubes couldn't be *that* hard to design, but...

  • @johnnysokko8505
    @johnnysokko8505 7 месяцев назад

    I'm only 2 minutes in, but I already love it. 2 hours! Awesome!!! Mainly I'm happy because I have one of these radios I am in the process of re-capping. I am a novice and videos like this are gold for me. Thank you.

  • @1990lumina
    @1990lumina 7 месяцев назад +8

    Best part of the weekend! Good morning everyone!

  • @chetpomeroy1399
    @chetpomeroy1399 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hope Shango has more long videos like this in store! I wish we still had those civil defense broadcasts. The *good* thing about directly heated tubes is that they start conducting almost immediately after energizing them, much like their transistor counterparts. That was an interesting excerpt of a drive down the 10 freeway through San Gorgonio (Banning) Pass. I notice that AM station at 1600 kHz out of Tucson doesn't appear to be interfering (heterodyning) with the one up in Cottonwood or the one back in Pomona.

  • @ArlenMoulton2
    @ArlenMoulton2 7 месяцев назад +2

    Shango, thanks for posting this video. Here in the UK there's a certain type of tube that was incredibly common as an audio output stage in most of the smaller 50s radios, probably the UK equivalent to the AA5 lineup, anyway this output tube is the UL41 for series string sets with a heater of 45v, or the EL41 for transformer sets with a heater of 6.3v and they were poor when new, they perform really well but just don't last very long, they develop hum and lose gain, which is a pain because they're starting to get rare and expensive now, the last one I bought was £25, for a radio that was worth probably about the same. After seeing this video, I dug out a radio I had with a dead EL41, dug out a spare random HV MOSFET, a 2SK872 to be precise, soldered it across the bottom of the socket with the tube removed obviously, and would you believe it works better than the brand new tubes usually do! This isn't something I'd thought of doing before I saw this video, I just assumed the operating characteristics would be too different, but apparently not, so that'll help keep all these budget 50s radios in my collection going long after the purists have consumed all of the remaining UL/EL41 stocks, and it's easier than converting to a UL/EL84.
    Another thing I did wonder, could all of the noise from the 1L6 be anything to do with the little ceramic disc capacitor? I know in highly sensitive circuits these things can sometimes be microphonic, it's also quite amusing to pulse them with voltage and hear them physically click, just a thought!

  • @2packs4sure
    @2packs4sure 7 месяцев назад

    Those few seconds of the dashboard of your Explorer brought back memories of me flying down I 10 in Texas in my 92' ranger STX super cab with the speedo pegged, lol,, what a fantastic little truck that was !!
    I wish I could go buy another brand new one...

  • @joohop
    @joohop 7 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant !

  • @Rev22-21
    @Rev22-21 7 месяцев назад +3

    I have a Trans Oceanic that's a few years newer than this one and looks like it just came out of the box. 😊

  • @user-Chromoverse
    @user-Chromoverse 5 месяцев назад

    Mr. Shango.... really enjoy your channel and I find myself trying to keep up with you when you are explaining these electronics circuits!
    The Trans-Oceanic you have B-600 1957...I restored the rare brown version of this radio...I restuffed the new caps to make it look all original on the chassis...It worked great and I listened to it during the COVID lockdown and it was a lot of fun. I traded it for a Zenith 1941 7G605 Bomber in unrestored cond.
    32:21
    Now way back in 1971 I received a GE Twelve Band radio for Christmas.
    In those days S.W bands were full of stations! Loaded! Moscow...BBC...Holland... Germany...Greece...Rome....I had a huge QSL card collection from radio reports from all over the world!
    I remember when the Berlin wall fell listening to all the excitement on a garage sale SW. Hallicrafters set!
    Short wave is a big disappointment today!

  • @revoxjazz8317
    @revoxjazz8317 7 месяцев назад

    Nice work!
    There is nothing better than approaching these types of situations calmly and checking compatibility the way you are doing. It's not a job to do all at once, without a doubt.
    I wish you health.
    Macedo Pinto
    Portugal

  • @zeppedled
    @zeppedled 7 месяцев назад +13

    I love my lazy Saturday mornings, coffee and radio/TV repair videos!

  • @hawkinscsa
    @hawkinscsa 7 месяцев назад +20

    That sounds great!
    Now all they need to do is add a tiny LED to resemble the original tube glow! 😊

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 7 месяцев назад +2

      These 1v tubes didn't glow.

    • @soopergoof232
      @soopergoof232 7 месяцев назад +4

      They do glow, but so dimly that you can't see it except in the dark.

    • @Alabaster335
      @Alabaster335 7 месяцев назад +1

      I'd use a neon lamp instead

    • @robertgoodale7204
      @robertgoodale7204 7 месяцев назад

      Now there's an idea, a simulated glow. Add a wrap around the side that looks like the original and it will be as close to the real thing as you can get.

    • @ambient5
      @ambient5 7 месяцев назад

      @@volvo09 Who cares... They'll look nicer 😇

  • @ThejasonJaw5442
    @ThejasonJaw5442 7 месяцев назад +1

    I was impressed by the performance Zenith radio' sold state tubes-

  • @michaelmihalis9057
    @michaelmihalis9057 6 месяцев назад

    Shango,love your channel.I’ve been a dxer since I was a kid.Listen to WLW and WGN every morning with my coffee.Also Greek broadcast on 1690 am in Toronto.Sadly Voice of Greece went off the air last year.Transoceanic d7000y still going strong.Mike the Greek

  • @simonkormendy849
    @simonkormendy849 7 месяцев назад

    Wow, pretty amazing that you can get solid-state replacements for pretty much all those tubes.+

  • @joeblow8593
    @joeblow8593 7 месяцев назад

    One of your best videos. I heard what sounds like Brother Stair on shortwave even though he's been gone for three years. The two versions of the same song on the station from Mexico and the amount of music stations on the dial is incredible. The announcer on KTNN going back and forth between Navaho and English was pretty interesting. The icing on the cake was probably that cute little fox.

  • @davidstacy8314
    @davidstacy8314 7 месяцев назад +3

    Higher your tech friend Dave from up North I like your video I want to leave a comment if you don't mind I'm retired but I still do a lot of radios for collectors and TVs and stuff like you do I don't like the solid state tubes I've used them they're noisy they're not perfected and they don't last I stick with the tubes I do a lot of repairs and refurbishing old transistor 2 radios with people like you I find the original equipment it's the best if you can get your hands on it I have a company that remanufacturers all my stuff for me I have good luck with that can't wait to see another one of your videos may God bless you and keep you safe always your friend Dave

  • @EdgarsLS
    @EdgarsLS 7 месяцев назад +3

    You can probably eliminate a lot of the battery eliminator noise (at least from the supply output) by using a low pass filter. Get a N channel FET, connect the drain to the supply, and source to the output terminal (in series with the output). Put a ~10uF capacitor from gate to ground, put a 47k resistor from drain to gate, and a >1Meg resistor across that 10uF capacitor, from gate to ground. This forms a simple low pass filter, the source of the FET follows the gate voltage, so you can supply the gate with a more smooth voltage (that can be high impedance), and the source will be the mirror of that, but low impedance. Just dont short the output, that kills the FET. (You could add a current limiter but that gets convoluted quick)
    The reason for the 1Meg resistor is so that the gate voltage is slightly lower than the drain voltage, otherwise when the drain voltage dips below the average DC value, it will pass whatever noise is on the drain voltage. So you lower the voltage slightly and that increases the range that the noise can be without it being passed to the output.

    • @vcv6560
      @vcv6560 7 месяцев назад

      I've just sketched it up from the notes, it deserves a try. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @Daniel_cheems
    @Daniel_cheems 7 месяцев назад

    This was awesome! I hope the genius guy can fix the noise issue!

  • @HighTreason610
    @HighTreason610 7 месяцев назад

    Truly fascinating, although it isn't the first time I've seen these. Some years ago I needed a scope and the only one I could afford was from the middle of the last century, so naturally it used tubes. Unfortunately most of them seemed to be bad - I don't work with tube gear, so don't have the equipment to test them properly - and replacing them was expensive. What saved it was some guy in an obscure corner of the web selling a "solid state kit" for that very scope, plus other things.
    It was less elegant than your "tubes" here, being little badly cut discs of RBP with what looked like mini banana plugs shoved through, then all the components fitted point-to-point, wobbling around on top, but it worked and it made that scope work a damn sight better than it ever did before, barring some glitches under certain conditions. It required modifying something to do with the power supply and some other minor rewiring that I can't remember - this must have been getting on for 20 years ago. One thing I do remember is that you absolutely could not mix and match between solid state and vacuum tubes, you had to replace the whole lot.
    When I sold it on for pittance, the guy who bought it was furious that I'd switched it over to silicon and he intended to shove tubes back in before placing it on a shelf and never using it. Unfortunately I didn't think to ask him to give me the solid state replacements back. In any case, I'm glad to see someone else has made such things, as it was a really good idea. The buyer argued that it went against the original intention of the design, whereas I hold that it was a tool designed to do a job and that the original engineer would have used silicon if it was available to him. Suppose with radios, though, things would be even more subjective.
    I really miss that scope. It wasn't much use to me in the end due to most things I work on running frequencies way out of its range, but it was a nice machine and I wish I'd kept it for those jobs where I could use it. It would have been better off in my hands with that occasional use than where it ended up, gathering dust in a collection.

  • @douggrisack5916
    @douggrisack5916 7 месяцев назад

    Even in your recording that Transoceanic sounds really nice. Liking that tight IF and selectivity.

  • @andygozzo72
    @andygozzo72 7 месяцев назад +2

    its great that someone has even tried to come up with replacements! i've been thinking of a 'replacement' for a PX4/AC044 or PX25 power triodes as these are obsessively coveted by the audionuts making any stupidly expensive, and they are used in some pre war radios, making replacements unaffordable for many , the 3V4s definitely useful as here in the UK there was a particular radio notorious for blowing the filaments of them if you switched the set off on mains too slow, then switched it back on, it goes out in a flash! bad design, Decca!

  • @Boozion
    @Boozion 7 месяцев назад

    I have that same transoceanic radio. Still works great with all original tubes and capacitors. Boy those 1l6 tubes are pricey. Your right on that one. Hopefully that seller will work with you on those solid state tubes. If I ever upgrade my battery tube radios I will check into that. Thanks for sharing. Take care as always. 😊

  • @agems56
    @agems56 7 месяцев назад +3

    This is proof again that older was better! Tubes to me sound the best!

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks for doing this review. I have one of these radios and am running the vacuum tube version of the 1L6.

  • @edwardallan197
    @edwardallan197 7 месяцев назад +1

    I agree maker is a genius a few tweaks away from better than original across the board. This is cool research. I bet he gets it done!

  • @TruBluYahoo
    @TruBluYahoo 7 месяцев назад +4

    Those drug ads are hilarious. They're illegal here in CanaDUH. Thanks for another video Shango. Watched the whole video btw 👍

    • @Dutch-linux
      @Dutch-linux 7 месяцев назад +2

      They're illegal here in the Netherlands too

    • @douggrisack5916
      @douggrisack5916 7 месяцев назад +1

      No duh about it...those drug ads are so annoying. We're better off without them.

    • @TruBluYahoo
      @TruBluYahoo 7 месяцев назад

      @@douggrisack5916 absolutely.

  • @danhubanks554
    @danhubanks554 7 месяцев назад

    This is a really good video. Thanks for the dedication and the information. I liked the Silver Fox too!

  • @markmarkofkane8167
    @markmarkofkane8167 7 месяцев назад +2

    It's still a tube radio. Solid state tube. Great video!

  • @farcohollis1369
    @farcohollis1369 7 месяцев назад

    Dang! I had that exact radio in my youth! Never knew what became of it.

  • @jeffreyhickman3871
    @jeffreyhickman3871 7 месяцев назад

    That looks 👌 like a David Tipton special. He repairs these complicated radios 📻 when somebody throws one his way. All thats needed is a few capacitors, and possibly a vacuum tube. Your friend, Jeff.

  • @frankowalker4662
    @frankowalker4662 7 месяцев назад +57

    You'd be doing him a favour by advertising them. You'd think he'd be greatful and supply them for free. FFS.

    • @shango066
      @shango066  7 месяцев назад +35

      Seems completely oblivious to that as most westerners do

    • @pikadroo
      @pikadroo 7 месяцев назад +8

      Well, maybe… and i dont know… maybe consider his ability to produce these things after they are advertised. 🤷‍♂️

    • @frankowalker4662
      @frankowalker4662 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@shango066 Yeah. They are impressive though.

    • @frankowalker4662
      @frankowalker4662 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@pikadroo True. They can't be that easy to make.

    • @treelineresearch3387
      @treelineresearch3387 7 месяцев назад +24

      These things are obviously handmade one-offs, and they're probably just some ham's side project that he makes beer money from. Can't expect some guy making handmade niche components to turn around fast or give you free stuff like a CN company that's looking for a bulk manufacturing order, good chance he doesn't even have the capacity to handle an influx of orders.

  • @billharris6886
    @billharris6886 7 месяцев назад +4

    Shango066, I didn't know there were solid state replacements for the battery power radios; interesting!
    I recognize your noise problem. The FETs that are being used in the solid state tube are likely a 1 to 4 GHz part and measures must be taken to reduce the high frequency gain to allow the part to be stable. When designing dual gate mosfets in the past, we used a 220 ohm resistor in series with the gate and a ferrite bead on the drain lead. My guess is these solid state replacements are oscillating at several hundred MHz, something you can pick up if you "sniff" around the converter stage with your spectrum analyzer.
    The tube AC gain drops off noticably at HF frequencies, which allows the super long lead lengths used in tube radio point-to-point wiring to still allow stable RF and IF amp operation. However, the high frequency FETs in those solid state tubes will still have about the same gain at AM broadcast frequencies as at 100 MHz, that's why your Shortwave performance is so much better.
    That solid state tube with the ceramic 455 kHz filter is a good idea. The one in the tube looked like a 6 pole filter. The typical AM tube radio used 2 doubled tuned IF transformers, which is equivalent to 4 poles. The best way to tune your IF with that ceramic filter is, go to a spot on the band where there is no signals and peak the IF for maximum noise output. I say this because the ceramic filters have a center frequency tolerance that is about +/- 3 kHz. Tuning for maximum noise will center the tunable If with the ceramic filter.
    That desert location you were at sounds great for daytime AM band DX'ing!

    • @KlodFather
      @KlodFather 7 месяцев назад +1

      I agree... The FET's not only are more sensitive to higher frequencies (unlike tubes with virtually no rolloff in this application) but they additionally have a much more sensitive gate so any trash in the air is amplified into the subsequent stages where the tubes would have ignored it for the most part. Its tricky business making them work just like the tubes. I think there are some real possibilities here that these can WAY outperform the tubes and some minor caps, ferrites, and bleeder parts can quiet this set up without destroying its performance.

  • @argoneum
    @argoneum 7 месяцев назад +5

    1:10:17 Brother Stair from beyond the grave, we get him in Europe also…

    • @spu77
      @spu77 7 месяцев назад

      5.9 MHz!

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse 7 месяцев назад +1

    "Transistor filled vacuum bulbs" its been a while since I heard that and it still makes me chuckle. That TFVB manufacturing guy has a realy thick skin, or he's a tad rude but maybe he aint solvent at the mo....cheers.

  • @roberts1938
    @roberts1938 7 месяцев назад

    You never cease to surprise me. SUB-HUM-ANS sticker, I didn't think you listened to Punk rock.
    The idea of replacing vacuum tubes with alternatives is worth praising. It just needs to be refined. And thermal imaging is useful not only in the desert but also in electronics. It allows you to quickly diagnose short circuits and heating elements.

  • @CARL557511
    @CARL557511 7 месяцев назад +5

    Maybe they should have made that 1l6 replacement with a grounded shield internally or externally if there is any form of self oscillation.

  • @Dazzwidd
    @Dazzwidd 4 месяца назад

    That broadcast you tuned in just before you tuned in WWV at around 1h 11m when you said "thats what im talking about" sounded like Ralph Stair. I'm amazed there's still money in the kitty keeping his broadcasts going.

  • @hattree
    @hattree 7 месяцев назад +1

    1:34:31 When you bumped up the light and were looking around, I had a flashback to Pee Wee's Big Adventure when he puts on those flashlight glasses and all the fake animals are in a scene like that.

  • @WolfmanDude
    @WolfmanDude 7 месяцев назад +1

    I always watch 4 of your videos simultaneously at 10x speed for maximum brain enhancement 🤓

  • @mxslick50
    @mxslick50 7 месяцев назад +3

    48:46 When you plugged in that solid state replacement something arced at the tube socket...you may have to watch at 1/4 speed to see it clearly.

    • @defaultuserid1559
      @defaultuserid1559 7 месяцев назад +2

      I watched it and I'm not sure. It looked like something dropped from top to bottom but not sure what.

    • @w8lifter1
      @w8lifter1 7 месяцев назад +1

      I saw that to

  • @tosz3227
    @tosz3227 7 месяцев назад +3

    it would be good to have a current meter on the radio to see the difference from vacuum to solid state

  • @steubens7
    @steubens7 7 месяцев назад

    love that you caught the news while working on a youtube video :> we had a party

    • @steubens7
      @steubens7 7 месяцев назад

      the anti-static keffiyeh, inshallah

  • @goldrush8770
    @goldrush8770 7 месяцев назад +4

    Love your sarcasm bro

  • @drsysop
    @drsysop 7 месяцев назад +2

    WRMI Legends on 5050 kHz & 9940 kHz is still playing Classic Rock, & other formats from Lake Okeechobee, Florida. 5050 kHz runs till midnight eastern time & then 9940 kHz starts for the west coast, try that one Shango. Brother Stair is long gone & there still playing his old rerun religious shows on a few stations & he is now known as "The Virus of Shortwave" lol -73's

  • @MovingPicturesAVideoMetropolis
    @MovingPicturesAVideoMetropolis 7 месяцев назад

    Enjoy your channel. No idea most of the time what you're talking about. But I find it oddly interesting. And you add a touch of irreverence, which I love.

  • @crooner2007
    @crooner2007 7 месяцев назад +1

    Shortwave is alive and well. You just need a good external longwire antenna and be away from man-made sources of noise. A good radio helps too. I use a Drake R8B and a Collins R-390A. On a typical evening or early morning, there are so many stations, that it almost feels like deja vu all over again, compared to the 1970's and 80's .

    • @sgath92
      @sgath92 7 месяцев назад +2

      I think if they wanted more shortwave activity they'd make it easier for amateurs to operate general audience broadcast-style transmissions, outside the ham bands in areas that used to be more heavily populated with nation state news/entertainment/propaganda networks. Then again, I am sure the corporate FM & AM station lobbyists would have something to say about that even if 95% of the population doesn't really know SW exists or how to use it.

    • @crooner2007
      @crooner2007 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@sgath92 it was always like that even in the 70's and 80's. Boomboxes often came with two shortwave bands and most folks didn't know how to use them. The better Japanese boxes were pretty good on shortwave but it often required being outdoors or close to a Window. As a kid, I had to erect an antenna on my window frame or outside hanging from my apartment to get the best reception. Otherwise you would get only the BBC, VOA, Radio Nederland and the other powerhouses. The really exotic stuff like Radio Tirana or tropical stations required an external antenna. Since the major broadcasters no longer target their broadcasts to the Americas it has become tougher for the average person to tune to shortwave. A lot of times they just give up which is a shame. Just imagine when there's a major attack on the Internet infrastructure....

    • @camelid
      @camelid 7 месяцев назад +1

      I need to dig my R390a out of storage and get it working. One magnificent bit of radio engineering, that one.

    • @crooner2007
      @crooner2007 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@camelid indeed it is. And it's a DX hound on the AM band, something that might interest @shango066....

  • @PapiDoesIt
    @PapiDoesIt 7 месяцев назад +11

    The Internet killed shortwave. I listened to shortwave a lot when I lived in Germany and in Egypt.

    • @bigliftm
      @bigliftm 7 месяцев назад

      Become a licenced ham radio amateur and be on the shortwave bands yourselves.73s from PD0ROH QTH eindhoven netherlands.. go do it and make your first qso with me on 20 mtrs or 40 mtr band

    • @crooner2007
      @crooner2007 7 месяцев назад +2

      Shortwave is alive and well. You just need a good external longwire antenna and be away from man-made sources of noise. A good radio helps too. I use a Drake R8B. There's so many stations that it almost feels like deja vu all over again, compared to the 1970's and 80's .

    • @richardclarke1693
      @richardclarke1693 5 месяцев назад

      I agree , I get many stations worldwide on my Transoceanic A600. I think that those who have poor SWL performance probably have a weak 1L6 tube .

  • @tiborhevessy
    @tiborhevessy 7 месяцев назад +2

    Good timing. Just opened youtube

  • @tiborsterszky2452
    @tiborsterszky2452 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hogy lehet megrendelni.A csöveket?????

  • @ziggfreud9820
    @ziggfreud9820 7 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent video

  • @kilcar
    @kilcar 6 месяцев назад

    The desert test reminds me of the 1960's, when there was actually SILENCE between stations. Now with so much electronic interference in the city, it is really tough to DX

  • @hassanrasool3977
    @hassanrasool3977 7 месяцев назад

    شكرا جزيلا مستر دان على هذا العمل الرائع ...أنا أحب هذا العمل

  • @ik04
    @ik04 7 месяцев назад

    Reminds me of listening to the Athabaskan radio programs in Yupik when I lived in Bethel, AK.

  • @jimw7ry
    @jimw7ry 7 месяцев назад +1

    1:32:00 That is a fox! Looks like a gray fox. We have red fox even in the residential areas here in the Ozarks of Missouri. His give away is his bushy tail!

  • @Tony770jr
    @Tony770jr 7 месяцев назад +2

    They should add an LED to those solid state tubes to emulate the filament.

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 7 месяцев назад

    I am mediately saw the thumbnail and title and thought interesting concept I'll be watching to the end. It might be double speed but that's because my brain processes the information faster that way. I do that with all videos.

  • @randymoyer5351
    @randymoyer5351 7 месяцев назад

    I say the Best video yet, Now can we get more Long videos. plus its cool to be able to go far away from civilization and Test radios. yet its neat seeing Solid state tubes, Wonder If those can be Made for older TVs that use Rare tubes.

  • @Nick2011881
    @Nick2011881 7 месяцев назад +1

    If you want to measure the changes between the original tubes and the solid states ones then you have to generate an rf signal modulated with a 1khz tone and then measute the SINAD for different input powers.

  • @LaLaLand.Germany
    @LaLaLand.Germany 7 месяцев назад

    1:29:08 took me right back when Fallout3 came out, they used kindalike a radio like this with that style music in the opening scene.
    That game took a possible future and made it real.

  • @phillanassa759
    @phillanassa759 7 месяцев назад

    Shango Saturday, here we go!

  • @teacfan1080
    @teacfan1080 7 месяцев назад

    Great video! Music on AM, who would have thought!

  • @sgath92
    @sgath92 7 месяцев назад

    Well, since I suggested these solid state tubes I apologize for the after-sale support issue. I've been daily driving them in my set for a decade or more at this point in a 600 series TO and have not had any problems with them (but I am in a very high noise environment). Solid state tube replacements are a neat idea, especially moving forward as certain types become so expensive & rare that its hard to justify using them in lower-value sets. Years ago there was a guy on ARF that came up with a way to do solid state 01As with microbulbs & light sensors so that they can "dim" like the original tubes when working the rheostats on 20s 3-dailer sets. There was also a ham, now SK, who created a usable solid-state 6E5 (!) and put all the data including gbr files for the PCBs online so someone could hire PCB builders to make some without having to reinvent it. Making a set of those dimmable 01As and a solid state 6E5 have been bucket list items for myself. Some day...

  • @airplaneengine
    @airplaneengine 7 месяцев назад

    1:19:00 Sounds like "La Rocola" 990 XECL (Mexicali, BCN). I just logged them here in Minneapolis/St.Paul on 4-7-24 coming in under CBW (Winnipeg, MB).

  • @MultiPetercool
    @MultiPetercool 7 месяцев назад

    I think I have a real 1L6 somewhere in my garage. I recapped a G500 and replaced the germanium rectifier with a Zener. I regret selling the set. I kept the 1L6 in anticipation of getting another TO someday.

  • @RingingResonance
    @RingingResonance 7 месяцев назад

    I just want to mention that the small startup I'm working with are designing a credit card sized battery controller for lithium batteries. We are still in the prototyping stage, but it not only is a BMS, it has a built-in charge controller that accepts USB PD via USB-C or solar/generic input from 5v-25v, and provides basic power management with full telemetry over USB-FTDI, or UART output.
    I would be interesting in sending you one to review once we are ready for production. I'm designing it for general purpose use and for portable gear. Really interested how well it performs in not puking RF everywhere.

  • @dannyjaar
    @dannyjaar 7 месяцев назад

    greatings from Zaandam the Netherlands

  • @ArthurJS123
    @ArthurJS123 7 месяцев назад +2

    I do not trust any of these shysters. Thankfully I have a NOS 1L6 that I bought a few years ago, fully anticipating that people would go into panic mode and start scooping them up. I have not seen or read anything good about the solid state replacements. The tubes themselves don’t often go bad, but certainly they can. But this video certainly could be helpful for those needing one of these, not willing to pay eBay prices for a 1L6. The ZTO is a great radio- I have my late father’s. He sold the one he carried in Korea, and loved it so much that he bought one of these 600 series sets.

    • @sgath92
      @sgath92 7 месяцев назад +1

      People have been in panic mode buying 1L6s for about 20 years now. I've watched the prices online go up and how scarce they've gotten at hamfests/swapmeets. They're not as bad as 45s, 50s or 2A3s but that's only because the audiophiles don't care about non-audio tubes. The real panic buying is going to be with 6E5s/6G5s/6U5s now that the supply of NOS ones is drying up. About 10 years ago someone in S.E. Asia found a pallet of NOS japanese 6E5s and temporarily flooded the market to where every restored eye-tube set on the market had a brand new Japanese 6E5 in it. But those tubes have a service life of around 1500-2000 hours depending on how dim & dark you're willing to tolerate...

  • @hotsauce2446
    @hotsauce2446 7 месяцев назад

    I bought a Transoceanic H500 in 2014 (I think) that had one of those in it where it had 1L6 printed on the PCB, the tube seemed to work very well, I still have the radio but its packed away and I dont remember what revision it had on it. It was different from the one you have there though. I even built a battery pack for it and took it camping a few times.

  • @mikefinn2101
    @mikefinn2101 7 месяцев назад

    Shango great video nice out doors experience did you use anything for bowl? Just kidding love those commercials. A long video on my 12 cup of coffee so very energized but This 2 hour video was more exciting than anything else on T.V. these days. Sad Short Wave is mostly gone remember the 70s SW my Zenith picked up all kinds of stations . No Linzess or what ever back then.
    Your video was a great joy for me to watch I am so grateful to you make my week. God Bless Mike

  • @hardball107
    @hardball107 7 месяцев назад

    This is great for those of us that pick up an old radio and want to play with it. What is the cost, it has to be less to be worth it. I have a GE and a Zeneth I would like to get playing again. This would be a good start if cost effective. I have found many original tubes to be half the cost of solid state replacements especially the 1U4 as an example but it's nice to have options. As for the locked out windmills it just might be that Government subsidies have run out on the wind farm and it's no longer profitable to generate power from them.

    • @sgath92
      @sgath92 7 месяцев назад

      I live near some windfarms and have been told that they also lock them down in high wind conditions to protect them, and for various kinds of scheduled maintenance.

  • @lonnymoore2622
    @lonnymoore2622 7 месяцев назад

    lol i second you on them needing a edm am radio station . because why not . those are very neat tubes .

  • @AIJenkins
    @AIJenkins 7 месяцев назад

    15:45 - I’m in this far and I have questions about the ZTO working with all those new transistor vacuum bulbs installed. I’m hanging on to my seat. Thanks Shango066 😊

  • @MrDymium
    @MrDymium 7 месяцев назад +2

    Putting the circuit inside of the glass tube seems cool but I wonder about thermal issues, especially with the "filament" resistor inside. The glass will prevent the heat from escaping the package, cooking the chips inside

    • @billharris6886
      @billharris6886 7 месяцев назад

      Heat can still escape from these solid state tubes but, only via radiation. So, the heat dissipation of the circuit needs to be low (1/10 watt) but, since this is a battery powered radio, its probably not a problem with this radio, each stage is designed for minimum power consumption to maximize battery life.

  • @TheDevice9
    @TheDevice9 7 месяцев назад +4

    "All I hear is my hearing damage"

  • @yardleybottles6025
    @yardleybottles6025 7 месяцев назад

    Outstanding video, thanks!