People are always soo quick to forget what life used to be like… I remember using air tools and I’m only 36 😂 I think the problem is the tool market has become to aligned with the technology market it’s almost like a new iPhone by the time you open the box the phone is already outdated. Also I love my M12 by the way!!
This guy is a chump. See his other comments getting pissy about someone mentioning Torque Test Channel. Not surprised that he hates good channels when he's trying his best to disadvantage a tool to talk shit.
@@emotionalintelligence776 it struggles but if your a mechanic on a regular basis you know how much of a difference a swivel and not fully charged battery makes. That's pretty damn good to be honest he could of reached it with out it. I think
Actually In many cases the swivel is used in those situations when removing caliper brackets. It's quite standard since there's usually the strut and brake lines and brackets in the way.
Torque test channel recently did a video on the new stubby and found rhe same results. The 5ah battery outperformed all other m12 batteries significantly, even the bigger 6ah battery and other high demand batteies of different ah rating. They said it broke records in multiple categories, including greatest performance disperaty between different batteries
@@jtylermcclendonin the compact section yes and was taking on some mid size options as well but it was not the highest numbers for all impacts by far DeWalt dcf961 1/2 full size is the strongest out of them all the impacts not 3/4, or 1"....I think, don't hold me to that 😂
I love that, but it defeats the point of the whole M12 lineup. Stick batteries keep it compact. At that point you’re better off getting a dewalt 12v stubby, or going 18v. If you care about room.
The voltage curve on higher ah batteries will always outperform lower ah batteries regardless of voltage. Also the high output batteries are a game changer
@@Enrightautobut they are like almost $200 just for the battery. That's why you have to get the kit that comes with the XC5.0 battery included, which is almost $400.
I just tried to perform this exact same task with the 5.0 ho battery without the universal joint socket and it could not break it loose. It also couldn’t remove the lug nuts from the wheel.
The stubby both new and old versions are still an incredible tool….ive the full Milwaukee collection of impacts and long reach ratchet….the stubby is used the most often for 80% of fasteners then the mid or high torque for more stubborn stuff the right angle and long reach for the awkward tight spaces
Get some of the Astro pinless universals. They transmit much more torque, I can’t explain it, but you can definitely feel torque loss with those pinned sockets just in the way they impact. The pinless don’t make the tool jump and flail around so much, the torque is just transmitted more effectively with the bigger contact patch.
@@Enrightautojust disappointing they don't specify anywhere that the tool only reaches those figures with certain batteries (like they did with some M18 tools and the new forge batteries)
Hey guys, I think he knows it would perform better without the swivel. For reference, those are the brake caliper adapter bolts and are usually 110ish Ft-lbs without the rust. Nice to know something the size of a TOY can buzz those off with the right Volts, even with the swivel 👏🏼
Caliper bolts are some of the most stubborn bolts to take off from a car. Sometimes depending on certain manufacture you can't even take them off with a airgun (thats with and without locktite). When you brake the caliper bolts off and rust dust comes out flying. That's impressive.
I did front rotors and pads on our 2022 express van, one side came off just fine with my 2767 but the other side’s top bolt was completely stuck, a good 15 seconds with the hitorque and i resorted to my breaker bar with my jack handle, then it came loose
@@kristianyoung2429not vw m14 rear caliper bolts. I’ve broken a snap on and Matco 1/2 ratchet on those. I’ve got the gen 3 Milwaukee and it won’t do shit.
@@packerman1203if you have a stubby. Use the stubby first for a lil bit then use the high torque and they’ll come off. Idk why it works but it works for some reason
i'm really on the fence. Torque Test Channel seems to suggest Dwalt (2024) has most torque in 1.2" impacts and I currently am invested in Makita for non-garage, home DIY, stuff and I kind of would like to stick with Makita but if I switch to Dewalt or Milwaukee, not sure which I should do. Suggestions? I work on cars and have had my fair share of pulling out the extra long breaker bar on those same bolts my Ingersol Rand air tool simply can't do anything too.
For my house I own Dewalt. It’s cheaper and does everything I need for car repairs. At work I own Milwaukee. I work maintenance so I need the power plus I love the m12 because of its size. Just make sure you research things because when it comes to Milwaukee it doesn’t matter if it’s a m12 or m18 stubby. They are both rated for 250 ft lbs or breakaway torque and that’s with the 3/8 and 1/2” impacts. Nothing changes until you get the mid torque or high torque until this stubby came out which is rated for 550 ft lbs. lol. It’s a monster.
I can tell you without a doubt the last gen m12 stubby can’t do any caliper bracket bolts 😂 even with the high output battery’s, I’ll be buying this new one primarily for doing breaks I don’t need fast I need something that can fit and get the bolt off without needing a ratchet
These new m12 stubbies absolutely rip! And the new DeWalt 20v 870 hydraulic impact rips too and super quiet. Exciting to see these companies push the bar even further
I got a 1/2” right angle impact. Very disappointed, it is supposedly rated for a lot more torque, but I could only break free bolts that were maybe 60ft lbs. very disappointing
How is that not great? That's frickin incredible for the size weight and voltage of the tool... Tools are so good these days people don't know what they got
The torque channel also proofed out that the secret sauce is the M12 5.0 battery as the one and only battery to help the stubby 2.0 hit those 550 ft lbs claimed on the box
I have dewalt so not a Milwaukee fanboy. Only Milwaukee things i have are their fantastic safety sunglasses and a trouble light i found on the side of the highway. That being said the m12 stubby in 3/8 with the small battery is something i would concider buying due to it fitting in places my DCF921 wont with the big battery
Torque test channel isn’t the end all be all they test ONE tool a few times and not in the field ever. People worship them and have no clue about Torque testing
@@EnrightautoThey have a great channel not sure why the animosity. They try to compare different tools in a repeatable measurable way. How do companies who stamp the box with specs get their figures. Not in the field.
The M12 HIgh Output 5.0, is the ONLY battery that will come close to the peak output specs of this impact wrench. Any other M12 battery immediately reduces output significantly, back to similar output levels of the last gen m12 1/2 stubby impact. Also...this thing is a power hog, it eats battery capacity like crazy. Something like a 15 second run at peak output will drop the 5.0ah HO down one full bar. It also heats up a lot more. Doesn't help that instead of the aluminum hammer case on the last gen, this one uses a plastic/rubber case, that keeps and holds the additional heat in. Also the double tap trigger power level selection is mighty annoying. So yeah. You could get more power output (with one specific battery), but you pay for it in other ways.
Still better having a small 3/8 pnuematic nano impact. Lighter, tripple the speed no issues when battery isnt completely full. Rebuildable and made to last year ms in shop environment. But this new M12 is the closest by far of any battery impact wrench to come close to a pro grade tool. Its power to weight is close.
The shorter the socket the better impacts work. If you pull the universal joint and go with just a shallow well socket you might have gotten it with the weak battery
Its the because of the icon swivel, i had the same issue and decided to try it with my coworkers snap on swivel and the snap on got them right off and the icon one couldn’t
Batteries matter for every single battery powered tool. I've watched countless test videos. Sometimes not alot different but usually a decent difference.
Struggles? You just have to remember, all the cordless tools have come a long way from just using a ratchet and socket and a breaker bar. That is still really good for a stubby.
Love having one set of reliable power tools & using my hand tools for mostly everything, power as a backup. I refuse to spend $400 just to be disappointed lol
Same here, just got 3/8" mid torque and it wouldn't do caliper bracket bolts. I was also disappointed. IR2235 1/2" air impact for the win. I also have a 25" 1/2" ratchet that makes easy work of breaking them loose..
I would have to say their breakaway torque ratings are pumped up. I was excited to get my mid torque m18 3/8" but there's no way it's putting down 550 ft/lbs.
@@landonlehman5497 Yeah, I found that seemed to be the case, too. If Milwaukee is inflating their true real-life torque specs, they will lose credibility with their users. I'd rather have the truth before buying than feel like I've been lied to after the fact.
Torque Test channel guys did a video on it its a beast but only with the 5 ah battery not any other period. Even a 6 ah batt did worse. Only 5 high output battery will run it to max.
I found after daily use in the auto field, they tend to get “weak” after about a year. Not battery weak but impact weak. Have to get my air more tool most of the time. They are handy in some cases.
@@Enrightauto that is good. I’ve had a couple that just wouldn’t hold up after daily use on cars. Always resort to air anyways lol🤣 but Milwaukee is great!
Torque Testers just proved that the 5ah HO is the only battery that brings out the full potential of the new stubby. They’re about to sell a ton of batteries 😅
The 5.0 batteries definitely are a game changer, but to me defeat the purpose of M12. The whole point was to keep it compact with the “stick” style batteries with a really stubby tool. Obviously with an understanding that it’s not going to have a ton of power, but that’s the nature of 12v stubby tools. That’s what we got the big boy 18v’s for. So at this point if the size of the tool matters, then there is no really point in getting this, just to have to buy a 5.0 battery to get the performance it claims. Better off with either a dewalt, 12v brushless stubby, because yeah it’s a flat pack, but is smaller, and when you go up in AH, the batteries just get a little bit longer. That’s it. Or the m18 stubby.
I’m convinced they’re holding off on shipping these to the torque test channel lol although as I’m sure you know, the swivel sockets take some torque away, it should still break that free no problem
Artisan took the words right outta my mouth…. Important Note Not Disclosed: Like all swivels, and even more so with that Harbor Freight swivel… The effective torque applied drops by 25% or more. Go to the lastest video by ‘The Torque Test Channel’ for testing results.
1/2 in impact sockets are by far easier to find and cover pretty much everything you'd need an impact for (in most cases), whereas 3/8 impact socket sets are few and far between (the only two I've found nearby and readily available is a Quinn set at harbor freight and a Milwaukee set at home Depot) and the 1/2 inch set sold right next to it covers the same sizes and more. For example, my Quinn 1/2 in impact socket set goes from 10mm-24mm and 7/16in-1&1/4in. The 3/8 set gives you two smaller sizes each for mm and SAE, and falls short by 4-5 each on the bigger sizes. Even going below 1/2in or 12mm, you can break bolts in half or ruin threads pretty easy by hand with a socket wrench, so an impact socket going that small is a bit pointless.
Because he is a Milwaukee tool influencer. A salesman for them basically and he gets free tools as long as he does what they tell him. I don't trust any tool reviewer that is sponsored.
@@upnorth5465 Dumbest comment I’ve read all day. I post negative reviews on Milwaukee stuff all the time. How don’t think they knew about updating the adapters on the insider ratchet? Because it was my number one biggest complaint on it. Goofy issue and simple fix and I said it should have never been released that way. But it’s ok to be jealous 😘😘
Torque test channel did a video on these impacts unless you use the 5 ah high output it’s almost the exact same power as the first GEN you need the five amp high output for this gun or don’t bother buying it because there’s no difference between the first and second gen
The hyper tough 12v 3/8 brushless inpact wrench with the 4.0 battery surprised me tool off 14 year old bold that he is doing shock and all rusted bad for the price of on sale now at Walmart for 59 or 49 dollars plus 25 for the 4.0 battery and 15 for fast charger 110 all together dise heck of a job but if you can afford the Milwaukee best do that
Man battery tools have come a long way in the past 10 years! My old dewalt 1/2 inch impact wouldnt take lug nuts off the new smaller Milwaukee rips them right off.
I have so many more 3/8 wobble sockets than I do 1/2. That’s my pick but since getting some more 1/2in wobbles, the extra weight of the 1/2 wobble sockets helps bust the fasteners loose quicker. I like em both.
Is anyone else having the issue of these 3/8 icon swivel sockets sliding up the anvil on the new 3/8 stubby? they don’t seem to fit. they slide like halfway off.
Universal joints delete about 30% of that torque as well
Correct
I can put 2 swivels on the dewalt and still break loose some truck caliper bolts
@@donmige81post a video
@@donmige81Dewalt 12V?
@@Jake-to7rs no it’s a 20 volt but with the power stack batteries it’s about the same size of the m12 Milwaukee
Torque test channel did a test on these swivel adapters and they reduce effective torque considerably. Like by 30-40%
They also showed the 5.0 HO battery had way more beans
I guess that’s good to know in general but that doesn’t really matter here
“Not great” that’s fucking phenomenal for an impact that size😂 5 years ago you’d need a tool twice as big and twice as heavy to do the same thing
People are always soo quick to forget what life used to be like… I remember using air tools and I’m only 36 😂 I think the problem is the tool market has become to aligned with the technology market it’s almost like a new iPhone by the time you open the box the phone is already outdated. Also I love my M12 by the way!!
For real, and he even admits the battery was bad the first time around lmfao
Bros got a tool that fits in his pocket that can break loose a semi truck lugnut and says “it’s alright”
Using those swivel sockets too is diabolical
“Not great” as a pound of rust comes flying off into the air😂👏🏼
😂
i feel like you could have reached that without the swivel and only used it to make it look like it was struggling
The point is to show it can do it. The older one won't remove caliper bolts from trucks that have been in there for a long time
This guy is a chump. See his other comments getting pissy about someone mentioning Torque Test Channel. Not surprised that he hates good channels when he's trying his best to disadvantage a tool to talk shit.
@@BRWfilms Title says different, Lol.
@@emotionalintelligence776 it struggles but if your a mechanic on a regular basis you know how much of a difference a swivel and not fully charged battery makes. That's pretty damn good to be honest he could of reached it with out it. I think
Actually In many cases the swivel is used in those situations when removing caliper brackets. It's quite standard since there's usually the strut and brake lines and brackets in the way.
Torque test channel recently did a video on the new stubby and found rhe same results. The 5ah battery outperformed all other m12 batteries significantly, even the bigger 6ah battery and other high demand batteies of different ah rating. They said it broke records in multiple categories, including greatest performance disperaty between different batteries
Pretty sure it broke the record for most torque of any battery tool of any size they've ever tested
@@jtylermcclendon as I said, multiple categories
@@jtylermcclendonthink it was just for the stubby category
@@jtylermcclendonin the compact section yes and was taking on some mid size options as well but it was not the highest numbers for all impacts by far DeWalt dcf961 1/2 full size is the strongest out of them all the impacts not 3/4, or 1"....I think, don't hold me to that 😂
I love that, but it defeats the point of the whole M12 lineup. Stick batteries keep it compact. At that point you’re better off getting a dewalt 12v stubby, or going 18v. If you care about room.
The voltage curve on higher ah batteries will always outperform lower ah batteries regardless of voltage. Also the high output batteries are a game changer
Agreed. I’m hoping they do forge m12’s next year
@@Enrightautothey can't fit 21700 batteries into the M12. They're too big
Thank you!
@@Undisputed_King trust me something’s in the works. I asked while I was at pipeline.
@@Undisputed_King forge batteries don't use standard cells they use custom pouch batteries just like a phone ect
Those 5.0 batteries get it done.
Yes they do
@@Enrightautobut they are like almost $200 just for the battery. That's why you have to get the kit that comes with the XC5.0 battery included, which is almost $400.
@@joseCalderon1976Ik this is 2 months ago but I just bought 2 5.0 batteries for 140
I just tried to perform this exact same task with the 5.0 ho battery without the universal joint socket and it could not break it loose. It also couldn’t remove the lug nuts from the wheel.
Sometimes my high torque struggles with brake caliper bolts so I consider this a win for the stubby.
Damn threadlocker
@@trl4038 Heat it up with an induction bolt heater. 😉
The stubby both new and old versions are still an incredible tool….ive the full Milwaukee collection of impacts and long reach ratchet….the stubby is used the most often for 80% of fasteners then the mid or high torque for more stubborn stuff the right angle and long reach for the awkward tight spaces
Get some of the Astro pinless universals. They transmit much more torque, I can’t explain it, but you can definitely feel torque loss with those pinned sockets just in the way they impact. The pinless don’t make the tool jump and flail around so much, the torque is just transmitted more effectively with the bigger contact patch.
My 1/2” Dewalt Stubby struggles with the swivel too, take it off and it will do the job.
no kidding my high torque 2962 struggles with swivels also nevermind a stubby
Yellow does 450 , red 550
This thing is badass I bought one last week and it’s my new favorite tool
My old stubby takes those off just fine when I'm working on vehicles.
Torque test channel just tested this and the 5.0s almost doubled the power. Wish they would advertise that.
Milwaukee recommends it be used with a 5.0
@@Enrightautojust disappointing they don't specify anywhere that the tool only reaches those figures with certain batteries (like they did with some M18 tools and the new forge batteries)
How you like the HF swivels?
Meh
Hey guys, I think he knows it would perform better without the swivel. For reference, those are the brake caliper adapter bolts and are usually 110ish Ft-lbs without the rust. Nice to know something the size of a TOY can buzz those off with the right Volts, even with the swivel 👏🏼
Good to know. Thank you
TTC showed that it only hits its max output with either the xc5.0 or xc6.0. Impressive numbers for such a small Thang
Caliper bolts are some of the most stubborn bolts to take off from a car. Sometimes depending on certain manufacture you can't even take them off with a airgun (thats with and without locktite). When you brake the caliper bolts off and rust dust comes out flying. That's impressive.
Milwaukee gen 3 high torque will break anything loose
I did front rotors and pads on our 2022 express van, one side came off just fine with my 2767 but the other side’s top bolt was completely stuck, a good 15 seconds with the hitorque and i resorted to my breaker bar with my jack handle, then it came loose
@@kristianyoung2429not vw m14 rear caliper bolts. I’ve broken a snap on and Matco 1/2 ratchet on those. I’ve got the gen 3 Milwaukee and it won’t do shit.
@@packerman1203if you have a stubby. Use the stubby first for a lil bit then use the high torque and they’ll come off. Idk why it works but it works for some reason
@@andrewleyva8216 i tried first with my compact 3/8 2854 and then the 2767.
Dude I love Milwaukee. I can’t wait to upgrade my old stubby!!
These new ones are insane
That's the most retarded thing i have heard
Use non swivel sockets make the difference the way you’re gun perform try it yourself 😊
5 amp seems to be what milwaukee like to be fed...and that wobble socket eats a ton of power
The whole point of the stubby was to not use the universal 😂😂😂
If you look at the angle he needed a universal socket. He would have just damaged that fastener if not
I mostly use mine under the hood and also worked great when I had too replace the whole AC box and take the whole dash out.
i'm really on the fence. Torque Test Channel seems to suggest Dwalt (2024) has most torque in 1.2" impacts and I currently am invested in Makita for non-garage, home DIY, stuff and I kind of would like to stick with Makita but if I switch to Dewalt or Milwaukee, not sure which I should do. Suggestions? I work on cars and have had my fair share of pulling out the extra long breaker bar on those same bolts my Ingersol Rand air tool simply can't do anything too.
For my house I own Dewalt. It’s cheaper and does everything I need for car repairs. At work I own Milwaukee. I work maintenance so I need the power plus I love the m12 because of its size. Just make sure you research things because when it comes to Milwaukee it doesn’t matter if it’s a m12 or m18 stubby. They are both rated for 250 ft lbs or breakaway torque and that’s with the 3/8 and 1/2” impacts. Nothing changes until you get the mid torque or high torque until this stubby came out which is rated for 550 ft lbs. lol. It’s a monster.
The difference is not that big between brands, don't bother switching platforms and wasting 1,000$ on batteries
I can tell you without a doubt the last gen m12 stubby can’t do any caliper bracket bolts 😂 even with the high output battery’s, I’ll be buying this new one primarily for doing breaks I don’t need fast I need something that can fit and get the bolt off without needing a ratchet
I use my first gen almost daily for brakes with 0 issues
@@Enrightauto my first gen doesn’t take caliper bracket bolts off anything bigger than a f150, sedans and small trucks it’s fine for
These new m12 stubbies absolutely rip! And the new DeWalt 20v 870 hydraulic impact rips too and super quiet. Exciting to see these companies push the bar even further
Got the 5a high output and it is silly powerful
I got a 1/2” right angle impact. Very disappointed, it is supposedly rated for a lot more torque, but I could only break free bolts that were maybe 60ft lbs. very disappointing
HO 5.0 battery
@ I’ll try it, definitely makes a big difference?
How is that not great? That's frickin incredible for the size weight and voltage of the tool... Tools are so good these days people don't know what they got
What a beast, those swivel sockets eat a lot of torque
The torque channel also proofed out that the secret sauce is the M12 5.0 battery as the one and only battery to help the stubby 2.0 hit those 550 ft lbs claimed on the box
I have dewalt so not a Milwaukee fanboy. Only Milwaukee things i have are their fantastic safety sunglasses and a trouble light i found on the side of the highway. That being said the m12 stubby in 3/8 with the small battery is something i would concider buying due to it fitting in places my DCF921 wont with the big battery
Hopefully you retorqued the bolt. You were breaking it lose using the smaller battery so that helped when you used the larger one.
It makes all the torque with the 5.0 HO battery
Torque test channel will have a field day with this
Torque test channel isn’t the end all be all they test ONE tool a few times and not in the field ever. People worship them and have no clue about Torque testing
@@EnrightautoThey have a great channel not sure why the animosity. They try to compare different tools in a repeatable measurable way. How do companies who stamp the box with specs get their figures. Not in the field.
@@Enrightauto Don't be talking shit about TTC. Makes you look like a loser to trash other channels.
@@EnrightautoThey are the end all be all of DIY lab testing
@@Dexter_Solidok no they are not 🤣🤣🤣
It does best with a 5.0 battery by far. Torque test channel did a comparison between all the M12 batteries.
Curious to see how this compares with the dewalt atomic impact. The M12 with the 5ah battery seems like its a similar sized tool
The M12 HIgh Output 5.0, is the ONLY battery that will come close to the peak output specs of this impact wrench. Any other M12 battery immediately reduces output significantly, back to similar output levels of the last gen m12 1/2 stubby impact. Also...this thing is a power hog, it eats battery capacity like crazy. Something like a 15 second run at peak output will drop the 5.0ah HO down one full bar. It also heats up a lot more. Doesn't help that instead of the aluminum hammer case on the last gen, this one uses a plastic/rubber case, that keeps and holds the additional heat in. Also the double tap trigger power level selection is mighty annoying.
So yeah. You could get more power output (with one specific battery), but you pay for it in other ways.
Still better having a small 3/8 pnuematic nano impact. Lighter, tripple the speed no issues when battery isnt completely full. Rebuildable and made to last year ms in shop environment. But this new M12 is the closest by far of any battery impact wrench to come close to a pro grade tool. Its power to weight is close.
The shorter the socket the better impacts work. If you pull the universal joint and go with just a shallow well socket you might have gotten it with the weak battery
It is a nice tool how long does the 5amp battery last without stopping pulling the trigger
When you understand how battery setups work, you understand straight away why they’re better or worse
Already on order , gonna need the h.o battery next
Oh yes you are!! Techs choice has them for $99 right now.
Its the because of the icon swivel, i had the same issue and decided to try it with my coworkers snap on swivel and the snap on got them right off and the icon one couldn’t
Oh give me a break. A different swivel won’t matter.
I saw a vid here on yt that tested it out and you have to use a 5.0 HO battery to get the full power
Batteries matter for every single battery powered tool. I've watched countless test videos. Sometimes not alot different but usually a decent difference.
Struggles? You just have to remember, all the cordless tools have come a long way from just using a ratchet and socket and a breaker bar. That is still really good for a stubby.
Don’t you always love a old rusty knuckle 😂
That swivel socket is robbing a solid 25-35% at least of the torque as
Well
Im having a issue with mine the battery is cutting out while impacting
Love having one set of reliable power tools & using my hand tools for mostly everything, power as a backup. I refuse to spend $400 just to be disappointed lol
This is $199 and you wouldn’t be disappointed it’s a monster
I love how today's power tools cut the amount of time it takes to fix something in half, sometimes less compared to what it used to with hand tools.
I have the 3/8 mid torque impact and I also find it struggling to take off caliper braket bolts. I was a little disappointed but still love that gun
This one does great with the 5.0 I imagine with a 5.0 and 6.0 it won’t have any issues
Same here, just got 3/8" mid torque and it wouldn't do caliper bracket bolts. I was also disappointed. IR2235 1/2" air impact for the win. I also have a 25" 1/2" ratchet that makes easy work of breaking them loose..
I would have to say their breakaway torque ratings are pumped up. I was excited to get my mid torque m18 3/8" but there's no way it's putting down 550 ft/lbs.
That’s a good point, it would probably do better with a bigger battery.
@@landonlehman5497 Yeah, I found that seemed to be the case, too. If Milwaukee is inflating their true real-life torque specs, they will lose credibility with their users. I'd rather have the truth before buying than feel like I've been lied to after the fact.
Torque Test channel guys did a video on it its a beast but only with the 5 ah battery not any other period. Even a 6 ah batt did worse. Only 5 high output battery will run it to max.
It doesn’t like the smaller batteries. Run the 5 high output!
Don't ask a battery tool to do the tasks of a pneumatic one
I found after daily use in the auto field, they tend to get “weak” after about a year. Not battery weak but impact weak. Have to get my air more tool most of the time. They are handy in some cases.
Been using mine for 2+ years daily with 0 issues 🤷🏻♂️
@@Enrightauto that is good. I’ve had a couple that just wouldn’t hold up after daily use on cars. Always resort to air anyways lol🤣 but Milwaukee is great!
nothing like fresh brake dust in the morning
Torque Testers just proved that the 5ah HO is the only battery that brings out the full potential of the new stubby.
They’re about to sell a ton of batteries 😅
5.0 HO is the best battery ever the only battery worth buying for stubby
I’ve got mine coming Sunday can’t wait to put it to use!
The 5.0 batteries definitely are a game changer, but to me defeat the purpose of M12. The whole point was to keep it compact with the “stick” style batteries with a really stubby tool. Obviously with an understanding that it’s not going to have a ton of power, but that’s the nature of 12v stubby tools. That’s what we got the big boy 18v’s for.
So at this point if the size of the tool matters, then there is no really point in getting this, just to have to buy a 5.0 battery to get the performance it claims. Better off with either a dewalt, 12v brushless stubby, because yeah it’s a flat pack, but is smaller, and when you go up in AH, the batteries just get a little bit longer. That’s it. Or the m18 stubby.
Does this compare to a M18 midtorque in function, just a smaller package?
Don’t have the m18 so can’t tell you yes or no
This new stubby runs laps around the mid torque 18v
@@araboharabedianum no. Mid torque has 650 ft lbs break away and 600 fastening torque
Get the M18 if the M12 don’t meet your needs!
Was the previous stubby tested with 5ah battery?
Yes
Can’t wait to get my hands on one when is
Home Depot stocking them
Not till the end of August
I’m convinced they’re holding off on shipping these to the torque test channel lol although as I’m sure you know, the swivel sockets take some torque away, it should still break that free no problem
They aren’t holding off on anything 🤣
would you recommend 1/2 or 3/8. deciding which one to get
1/2” personally
No high Ah battery, a universal and you're trying to take off the toughest bolt on the car....real fair test you concocted here lmao
Artisan took the words right outta my mouth….
Important Note Not Disclosed:
Like all swivels, and even more so with that Harbor Freight swivel…
The effective torque applied drops by 25% or more.
Go to the lastest video by ‘The Torque Test Channel’ for testing results.
Out of curiosity, why to with the M12 vice the M18 stubby?
For something so compact with 500lbs torque and it’s an m12 your crazy that’s awesome !
Just curious why you’d get the 1/2” anvil in such a small tool? You just have more 1/2” impact sockets?
1/2 in impact sockets are by far easier to find and cover pretty much everything you'd need an impact for (in most cases), whereas 3/8 impact socket sets are few and far between (the only two I've found nearby and readily available is a Quinn set at harbor freight and a Milwaukee set at home Depot) and the 1/2 inch set sold right next to it covers the same sizes and more.
For example, my Quinn 1/2 in impact socket set goes from 10mm-24mm and 7/16in-1&1/4in. The 3/8 set gives you two smaller sizes each for mm and SAE, and falls short by 4-5 each on the bigger sizes. Even going below 1/2in or 12mm, you can break bolts in half or ruin threads pretty easy by hand with a socket wrench, so an impact socket going that small is a bit pointless.
Have mine on Order Since PIPE LINE 1/2 PIN DETENT how you get your's so Early
Milwaukee loves me 😝 I work with Milwaukee tools
Because he is a Milwaukee tool influencer. A salesman for them basically and he gets free tools as long as he does what they tell him. I don't trust any tool reviewer that is sponsored.
@@upnorth5465 Dumbest comment I’ve read all day. I post negative reviews on Milwaukee stuff all the time. How don’t think they knew about updating the adapters on the insider ratchet? Because it was my number one biggest complaint on it. Goofy issue and simple fix and I said it should have never been released that way. But it’s ok to be jealous 😘😘
Yep that 5.0 is cooking with some special sauce for sure.
You should have mentioned in your video that swivels reduce torque efficiency, just to be transparent that is
Why compare a weak 2.5 to a fully charged 5.0?
Torque test channel did a video on these impacts unless you use the 5 ah high output it’s almost the exact same power as the first GEN you need the five amp high output for this gun or don’t bother buying it because there’s no difference between the first and second gen
I mean I consider rusty suspension bolts within mid-torque impact range not a stubby range, tho impressive it can do that
These tools have actually been incredible
The hyper tough 12v 3/8 brushless inpact wrench with the 4.0 battery surprised me tool off 14 year old bold that he is doing shock and all rusted bad for the price of on sale now at Walmart for 59 or 49 dollars plus 25 for the 4.0 battery and 15 for fast charger 110 all together dise heck of a job but if you can afford the Milwaukee best do that
Man battery tools have come a long way in the past 10 years! My old dewalt 1/2 inch impact wouldnt take lug nuts off the new smaller Milwaukee rips them right off.
Why put a car battery on a tool that's mean to be compact? If I need higher torque then I pull out my 1/2 in. impact or break the nut off first.
Because it’s a battery that come in the kit
What if I need power and compactness?
"New car review, no tires on the rims and fuel level is at E. Lets see if it can climb this hill"
"not bad, not bad. but not great"
🥴🥴🥴 new car doesn’t come with all that. The stubby does come with a 2.5 battery though in the kits
As soon as I get mine in am going for the 18 wheeler lugnuts. Go big or go home.
U dont need a u joint for that, i work at honda and use my old 250ft/lb stubby all the time to take off bracket bolts😐
How does the older XC6.0 battery do vs the 5.0?
Way worse
@@Enrightauto Interesting. I'll have to pick some up this black friday.
Can you loosen tht nut with a m12 compact impact driver?
If you only had to get one what would you get 1/2 or 3/8?
I have so many more 3/8 wobble sockets than I do 1/2. That’s my pick but since getting some more 1/2in wobbles, the extra weight of the 1/2 wobble sockets helps bust the fasteners loose quicker. I like em both.
@@joshbrown1381 Dang i gotta get both now haha
@@Jmoney709 I just got a 2-pack of m12 5.0 batteries to put in them. You won’t regret having both anvil sizes JIC.
1/2” always imo
@@Enrightautowhy the 1/2" in your opinion? I ordered both, but why do you lean towards the 1/2"?
What store how long did you have to wait
Home Depot can get it shipped to your house in 1 day
Yeah I figured a bigger battery for more power! Running 6.0 stubby tools right now
Only way to go is a 6.0 or HO 5.0
If you want performence of near an 18V tool, you need at least some power from the batterie. Physiks adds up.
Lmk I’ll buy it from you !
Is anyone else having the issue of these 3/8 icon swivel sockets sliding up the anvil on the new 3/8 stubby? they don’t seem to fit. they slide like halfway off.
Sleeved swivels suck sadly
@ You having a similar problem with the icon swivels?
The 3/8 stubby is on clearance at HD for $100
Bought 2 today.
The bolts are too tight .
forged m12 next year maybe?
Hoping so. I asked at pipeline
@@Enrightautowhat did they tell you?