Michael,please dont forget to show cuica and its patters,because cuica is my favorite drum in batarea - and we can hear it in your "altogether" playing. More cuica,please!
When I lived in New Orleans I studied with Jorge Alabe from Mocidade. I played Caxia and we played this pattern. One difference is that he would get us to play the clave with our right hand and fill notes with the left hand. It gives the pattern a much stronger clave and tends to make it swing a bit more. I have heard too many people play the rlrl pattern and the clave gets lost. Any thoughts on this?
Olá Miranda, Primeiro parabéns pelos vídeos, gosto muito de aprender sobre samba. Uma pergunta eu sempre achei que o surdo de primeira marcariam o 1 e 3 tempos e nesse vídeo você faz invertido. É isso mesmo?
hello michael, despite very clear explanation there are some things that I fear are not correct. most importantly the surdos (at least in the sound from my speakers). the 1st and 2nd surdo should be tuned opposite to the way you have described them... 1st is higher than 2nd at mocidade.. (yes a low sound on the first beat of the cycle) also the tamborim technique and musical style is not as at mocidade... it is my understanding this was the place where this stick that you are using was first developed and it has a different technique. you avoid detailing the entrance of mocidade (from repinique call) that has some important unique features of caixa and chocalho. barak
Hello Barak, so you are saying that Mocidade is tuning the first surdo higher then the second, like Vila Isabel? Well, this is new to me. I have used the patterns that mestre Odilon (also from Mocidade) shared... Mocidade was one of the first groups that put the tamborims in front of the group (1984). About the repinique chamadas and entrance, this lesson was just about the patterns they use. Perhaps in a other lesson I will explain about the way they start.
There is sometimes confusion about which is the first and second surdo. The first surdo is the lower or larger one and always plays on the two. The second surdo is the middle tuned one and plays on the one. Of course the third surdo or the highest tuned is plays its pattern along with the first on the two.
barakschmool Sometimes from recordings it does sound backwards. I think what is happening is the speakers do not reproduce the deep sound of the first surdo and what is coming through is the third surdo. I have noticed this on old Mocidade recordings from decades ago.
good call arlingtonguy54, speakers indeed often don't give you the lowest surdo, but i am just pointing out what happens from my experience playing in Mocidade's bateria... the lowest sound is on the 1. listen to any recording of Mocidade of the last 25 years at least (eg the recent carnival) - on good speakers, and you will find this is true. they are unusual in this respect that the melody of the lowest surdos is inverted compared with the 'standard'. There is no other bateria in the top league of Rio samba schools that has adopted this tuning.
Thanks Michael, you are an angel of kindness!
thanks Michael, very clear explanation, helps remind me of my samba school training.
peace
Merci Michael, your videos are very plaisant. If a day you come in France. We will very happy to welcome you
fantastico !! i love this rithm .Thank you michael . ciao
That is a very nice compliment! Thank you!!
Thank you very much, Roberto!
Great video!
Fantastic Michael
Never learn so much in such a short time + Brazilian culture 🙃
I love yours videos... i hope some play like you. Thanks for make this videos. And sorry about my bad english
Thank you! I am glad you enjoy my video's!
Thanks!!
Your welcome and good luck with it!!
Michael,please dont forget to show cuica and its patters,because cuica is my favorite drum in batarea - and we can hear it in your "altogether" playing. More cuica,please!
mandou bem mesmo, deu um showzinho!!
Your welcome!!
When I lived in New Orleans I studied with Jorge Alabe from Mocidade. I played Caxia and we played this pattern. One difference is that he would get us to play the clave with our right hand and fill notes with the left hand. It gives the pattern a much stronger clave and tends to make it swing a bit more. I have heard too many people play the rlrl pattern and the clave gets lost. Any thoughts on this?
Nice videos! It seems the caixa pattern is exactly the same as in your samba reggae video?
Thank you! And you are right, in samba-reggae they often use the same caixa pattern.
Olá Miranda,
Primeiro parabéns pelos vídeos, gosto muito de aprender sobre samba.
Uma pergunta eu sempre achei que o surdo de primeira marcariam o 1 e 3 tempos e nesse vídeo você faz invertido. É isso mesmo?
Dank-u
+oluare graag gedaan! Obrigado!
hello michael, despite very clear explanation there are some things that I fear are not correct. most importantly the surdos (at least in the sound from my speakers). the 1st and 2nd surdo should be tuned opposite to the way you have described them... 1st is higher than 2nd at mocidade.. (yes a low sound on the first beat of the cycle) also the tamborim technique and musical style is not as at mocidade... it is my understanding this was the place where this stick that you are using was first developed and it has a different technique. you avoid detailing the entrance of mocidade (from repinique call) that has some important unique features of caixa and chocalho. barak
Hello Barak, so you are saying that Mocidade is tuning the first surdo higher then the second, like Vila Isabel? Well, this is new to me. I have used the patterns that mestre Odilon (also from Mocidade) shared... Mocidade was one of the first groups that put the tamborims in front of the group (1984). About the repinique chamadas and entrance, this lesson was just about the patterns they use. Perhaps in a other lesson I will explain about the way they start.
There is sometimes confusion about which is the first and second surdo. The first surdo is the lower or larger one and always plays on the two. The second surdo is the middle tuned one and plays on the one. Of course the third surdo or the highest tuned is plays its pattern along with the first on the two.
barakschmool Sometimes from recordings it does sound backwards. I think what is happening is the speakers do not reproduce the deep sound of the first surdo and what is coming through is the third surdo. I have noticed this on old Mocidade recordings from decades ago.
good call arlingtonguy54, speakers indeed often don't give you the lowest surdo, but i am just pointing out what happens from my experience playing in Mocidade's bateria... the lowest sound is on the 1. listen to any recording of Mocidade of the last 25 years at least (eg the recent carnival) - on good speakers, and you will find this is true. they are unusual in this respect that the melody of the lowest surdos is inverted compared with the 'standard'. There is no other bateria in the top league of Rio samba schools that has adopted this tuning.