all these guys are elite speed. But in football, the 40 yard dash is a far more useful tool. I understand stamina is a huge plus for some positions but if you get past someone in football they usually have to change direction to catch you which means they won't.
This list is not about playing football. It's about who ran the fastest. The 40 does not measure who can run the fastest, It does not measure the top speed of the fastest players.
What about the Rocket Ismael ? Napolean Kaufman was fast too.. Joey Galloway .... Reynaldo Neamiah . Deon Sanders , Bo Jackson ..... all of them did track too...
Rocket 10.61 FAT 10.2 hand, Kaufman 10.56, Galloway 10.35 reported, Nehemiah 10.24, Sanders 10.26, Bo 10.44. Great players, but not among the top 20 fastest.
ALL MIGHT BE TRUE BUT NOBODY EVER RAN FASTER IN A GAME THEN BO JACKSON KINGDOME RUN 90 YARDS. HES SO FAST I CANT EVEN COUNT 1 ONE THOUSANDTO SEE HOW MANY YARDS HE COVERS WHEN HE GETS TO THE 40/. ITS UNREAL
Not true. Bo only looked like he was running super fast, because the guys that were chasing him were not fast. there are plenty of players who ran faster on the field. In this play both players were running faster than Bo ever ran. ruclips.net/video/LMpYVd9QPbs/видео.htmlsi=lVeAMM-xj_V6wqu0 Here are some others ruclips.net/user/clipUgkx5q1YSz_LoFkxqJsxFpIUnC23uo37vuOG?si=lkiHw6EGHedwtSh6 ruclips.net/video/5_HfEdBHs0k/видео.htmlsi=PX4OIwY3KmjJ5HHg ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxBgV1---ZfRyov7UZ8WUKPSgH4Qm4Cyod?si=OBThVLbtAgIhuHOi
@@sydboski You proved u dont know what youre saying with this list. Bob Hayes was the fastest he ran on cinder and they adjusted his times and he wouldve been much faster. Cliff Branch was faster than all these guys as well
@@thedude-jb7wx LMAO!!! 1. Who is they? 2.. Any adjustments made for surfaces are not official. 3. Hayes did run 10.06 on cinders. But Hines ran 10.03 on cinders during the 1968 AAU championships at Hughes Stadium in Sacramento. The meet was bka "The Night of Speed". 4. Cliff Branch ran 10.00, but. It was HAND timed, not fully automatic timing like the 10 guys on my list. 5. Anyone who knows a little about the conversion of hand time to FAT knows you add +0.24 to the hand time to make it simulate FAT, So Branch's 10.00 h would be 10.24 FAT. 6. If there is anyone who doesn't know what they are talking about, it's not me. Lol! Thanks for commenting anyway!!😆😆
Bob Hayes, hands down. At the 1964 Olympic Games in Tokyo, Hayes ran the anchor leg of the 4x100 in 8.5 seconds which is the fastest a human has ever run. He overcame a nine meter deficit to win by two meters. We do have a way to prove this and it's simple mathematics. Synchronous motors for motion picture cameras operate at exactly 24 frames per second. Each second is divided into forty-eight parts because the shutter is closed half the time as the film is being transported between frames and then open half the time to expose the film. Simply by counting the frames, we can establish the time from when Hayes received the baton to when he crossed the finish line. Consideration must be given to the slower cinder track surface in Tokyo and the shoes worn by sprinters during that era insofar as weight and energy return. He'd be even faster on today's tracks.
MisterNautilus Sorry can't use relay splits. One, they are not official. Two they are already running when they get the baton. There are too many variables to consider. How fast the third runner is coming in. When they get the baton. Is it early or late in the passing zone. They don't always run a full 100m. These are the reasons why I used official 100m times. They are more accurate and reliable.
@ProphetMarcus He was not in 9th place, the time was hand timed, and the anchors he was running against were not the cream of the crop. The leg was timed frame by frame and determined to be 8.9-9.0. There is no way in blue hell he would have been at 30mph or even close to 7.9.
hard to debate, but there is a difference between what their best time was when the were actually training in Track and how fast they were during their playing days on the field with pads on. Cant imagine there are faster guys than Darrel green, Bob Hayes and Ron Brown, but it is all debatable
It's not debateable. This list is about who ran the fastest period. Not who ran the fastest on the field in pads ect... You don't run your fastest on the field. You run your fastest on the track. Yes there is a difference. On the track is faster and measurable. On the field is slower and not measurable.
@@sydboski ok, we are talking about something different then, yes these are the nfl players with he fasted recorded 100 times, my point is that does not meant that automatically translated on the football field during their careers
@@maxsmiley7191 Never said it translated to the field. These are just the fastest players ever. No other NFL players ran faster than these did. That's it.
@@sydboski I can appreciate your position, although I find it a bit rigid. My only real issue is that referring to Jim Hines as a football player is like calling Pseudo-Number 45 a faithful husband, or an honest man. Some contradictions in terms just cry out for correction or challenge. But the fact remains no matter how poor his football career was, the NFL teams who had him on their roster did pay him. Accordingly, it does offer a small premise one could theoretically hang their hat on.
Michael Bates tho. His 100m was timed in 1991 when he was only 20 years old at 10.17. Just out of being a teen. He retired from track at 21, after the 1992 olympics. He joined the NFL in 1993 at 22 years old. We don't know how fast he could have been. His fastest years were from 1992-2000. He was a 200m specialist, and could fly. Won the bronze medal in the '92 olympics. I am really really sure he breaks 10 seconds easily if that was his event. Wiki Michael Bates. Look how he was built. No steroids either. He was built like Tyson Gay, and Justin Gatlin. I remember him well. 2x track all-american. 5x All-Pro, and 5x Pro Bowler as a returner. All from 1996-2000. Voted all decade team as a returner. No doubt he breaks 9.9 if he was a track man. Retiring from track at 21 does not a track man maketh. And, he won the bronze medal at 21 in the 200m. Imagine at 25, or 28 years of age.
@@sydboski Just saying because he was the fastest in the nfl during his time. 5 time pro bowler and 5 time all pro all from 1996-2000 as a returner. NFL all decades team. I'm sure he could have ran the 100m faster than 10 seconds if thats the event he trained for.
Some other very deserving honorable mentions: Curtis Dickey, Stanley Morgan, Johnny"Lam" Jones, James "Jett", Phillip Epps, Renaldo Nehemiah, Roy ""Jetstream" Green , Bo Jackson and William "The Refrigerator" Perry
jo schmo Dickey 10.11 certainly. Morgan had no formal track training. Jones 10.23. Jett 10.14 certainly. Epps was a 200m man. Nehemiah 10.24. Roy Green had no formal track training. He wasn't even the fastest Cardinal. That was Mel Gray. Bo, sorry, his best was only 10.44 not world class. Frige, no comment.
There are naturally fast guys that play/played in the NFL. But they were not world class sprinters. That is a different level of speed. The players you mentioned plus, Mike Quick, Randy Moss, Megatron, Jerry Rice, Lynn Swann and John Stallworth, Charlie Brown, The Greatest show on turf; Isaac Bruce, Tory Holt, and Az-Zahir Hakim, and many others could run away from secondaries with natural speed. But their speed can't compare to the world class sprinters in this list.
I appreciate how you put this information together and made it available. The only problem with this is no player ever sprints 100 meters straight on a football field. It is always bursts of 20, 30, 40 or 50 yards. Never really much else. A more accurate race would be a 40 or 60 yard or meter dash. And another thing about using 100 meter dash is that some of these players don't reach full speed so until the last 40 meters of a 100 meter race, which means they never reach that speed on a football field. Again, I appreciate the research you did but you can't judge the fastest NFL players by the 100 meter dash.
Thank you for your input, but this is not about playing football. It is about who ran the fastest and just happened to play in the NFL. The 100m dash is the only race that has all of the components of one's overall speed. 1. Start/quickness, 2. acceleration, 3. top speed, and 4. speed endurance (which allows you to maintain top speed for a short time and slows deceleration). No other race has all 4. The 40 has 1&2. The 60 has 1,2&3 (sprinters don reach top speed til about 50m out). The 200 has 1,2&4. The 100m determines who is the fastest human. It is more than suitable for my purposes.
@@sydboski It's about who is fastest on the football field. The fastest time on the track is irrelevant if you don't ever reach that speed on the football field.
@@mercuryrising2424 No. It's about who is fastest period. This is not about playing football. You cannot measure on field speed to compare players not on the same field or from different eras. The fastest times on the track are the "FASTEST" you can reach and that is what the video is about. The fastest. Not the fastest in pads, in a game, or on the field. Thee Fastest possible.
@@sydboski Then why mention NFL players? If you are going to judge it that way, then using NFL players makes it irrelevant since it is not their playing speed. What if the NFL created an obstacle course of targets and have all the quarterbacks throw balls at targets and moving targets? They can judge their accuracy and then use that contest to determine who is the best quarterback. Forget about playing the actual game. lol
@@mercuryrising2424 Because the prerequisite is that you had to play in the NFL. There is a vast difference in best and fastest. Best is based on opinions. Fastest is measurable. Which is what the video is about.
There two distinctly different things that need to be considered here. Technically you are correct about the “fastest” men ever to play in an NFL game. However, the other consideration is “quickness”. When it comes to quick no NFL player could beat Darrell Green. Two more things to consider: one, like many if not most players these gentlemen had to bulk up to play NFL football. How fast were they at their actual playing weight and two, when teams come to evaluate potential draft picks they don’t care how fast they can run 100 meters. It’s how fast they are at 40 yards. Once again I tip my hat to Darrell Green.
Thanks for commenting! You have some very good points, but this video is just about who ran the fastest. Not quickest, not on field when they go to the NFL. Just who ran the fastest. The 40 yard dash doesn't measure how fast you run. It only measures quickness and partial acceleration because the really fast runners don't reach top speed till after 50m out. So how can the 40 yard dash determine how fast you run if you are not running your fastest. It cannot. That is why I used the 100m dash. It has all of the components of true speed. Start, acceleration, top speed and speed endurance. It determines who is the fastest person on the planet. Speaking on quickness. Green's 40 time is only 4th best all time Bo 4.12 (suspect, if you ask me), Alexander Wright & Michael Bennett both ran 4.13 and then Green with his 4.15. All hand timed by the way. But if you notice Hines, Hayes, and Ron Brown have no 40 times, but Hayes and Brown have faster 60 times than Green too. Hayes 5.9, Brown 6.09, Green 6.10. Quickness is something too, but it's not considered in this video.
Because 35 year old Branch out ran 25 year old Green in a game. Check the video out. ruclips.net/video/CLZlnaH1KtI/видео.html All sorts of highlights. What I want to know is why Branch isn't in the HoF. Then again, look how long it took for Jerry Kramer. The selectors seem to be on loco weed.
@Eli Duttman If you are referring to the 2 clips starting at 2:55 in the video you posted, Green was not guarding Branch on either of those plays. Both times Branch lined up on the left side of the offense which would be the right side of the defense. Green played left CB. We don't know where Green was on that play or if Green was even on the field during the 99 yard td. In the Superbowl he was on the other side too. He came across the field when the ball was thrown. That's why he was behind. Green was faster than Branch. Hey, Branch is my favorite player of all time. He should be in the HOF. Especially over that bum Lynn Swann. But being realistic Green was faster.
At the time I made this video Curtis Dickey at 10.11 was 11th. Today he is 12th because Anthony Schwartz ran 10.09 to knock off Gault. (Tinker was a mistake).
***** The only player who did not run on a modern track was Bob Hayes. I chose not to deal with the "what if's". I chose to go with the hard facts, The times. They are indisputable. Getting into the running surfaces opens my list to new debates.
Thank you for your very polite email response to my observations. I am an older gentleman and, having never done this kind of thing before, I was concerned how my effort would be received. As for your clarifications you are indeed correct. We’re i to tell you I was born and raised in Washington D.C. it might go a long way to explain my admiration for Darrell Green. Thank you again.
We need to know the age of everyone listed here. Michael Bates was timed at 10.17 at only 20 years of age! He was just out of his teenage years. He was still a few years away from being at his peak. The others listed here werent 20 years old with those times. They were probably in their mid to late 20's.
Jett born 12/1970 ran 10.16 6/1992. He was 21. Whitted was born 7/4/1974 ran 10.07 7/15/1995. He just turned 21, 11 days earlier. Trapp was 22. None were in there mid to late 20's. Bates ran at least 12 100m competitions from 1987-1992.
No he did not. Green and Brown ran head to head one time. It was a photo finish. They had to go to the tape to determine the winner. They were given the same time at 6.17, but Green was given the win. Green's best in those fastest men competitions is 6.10. Brown's was 6.09. Brown also out ran Green on the field during a kickoff return. No one is talking about the speed transferring to the field. This is about who ran the fastest and nothing else.
@Christina Shubin Green ran a personal best of 6.10 60 yards in those NFL fastest man competitions. Brown ran 6.09, even though Green beat Brown via photo finish in their only head to head race. Green's best 100m was 10.08 where as Brown's was 10.06. Green was not behind Brown during that chase. Green was down field and actually has a slight angle on Brown, but Green still had to dive to barely clip Brown's heel as he went into the end zone. Brown was clearly faster than Green. Green lost to Walker not once but twice in the Superstars 100 yard dash even though Green's best 100m is 10.08 to Walker's 10.23. Green is still faster in this case.
@Andrew Yes the both were beasts. But Green was the safety valve player on that play in case Brown broke it. So Green did not run down the field. That's why when you see him, he and the kicker are the last players on the defense. When he saw Brown was going to break it he already had turned and started running diagonally back across the field. The blocker helped him if anything by pushing him down field. Green was already downfield so he had a slight angle on Brown. I don't see where he made up any ground at all on Brown. Looks like Brown out ran Green's angle of pursuit to me.
@Andrew I watched the game too. They kicked off from their own 35, but Green never passed the opposite 40 yard line. Here is the play it starts at 2:43 ruclips.net/video/rUOKK89nSrk/видео.html. Brown most likely did not reach full speed til close to the 50 yard line because he had to turn at his own 37-40.
Can't believe Ford was there ..he seemed quick jitterbug type but not track fast..there was a guy who tried out for the Fins in 88 and 89. His name was Ricardo Cartwright. They said he ran 4.07 but he had hands of stone was a backup WR from Florida A&M.
Ford did indeed run 10.01 on 6/10/2009. Cartwright never made the team so he was never in the NFL. Plus the 40 is too short for these guys to get to top speed. If he was ever timed at 4.07 it was a hand time by a person who is not very good at timing anything. World 60m record holder and quickest starter ever Christian Coleman ran 4.12. There is no way anyone is out running him in the first part of any race.
Does anyone know if Deion was ever timed in the 100m? Two others worth looking into would be Larry Burton, WR Purdue, Saints and Chargers, who finished 4th in the 200m in the 1972 Olympics, and Renaldo Nehemia, who set eight world records in indoor and outdoor hurdles and ran the 110m hurdles in 12.93. Nehemia played three seasons with the 49ers.
Unfair to have Hines on there at number one.....first of all his sub 10 was run at altitude.....second he was merely a practice squad player.....Bob was an all pro for many years, in the HOF, and defensive schemes used today like zone, were designed to stop Hayes. Game changer
It's absolutely not unfair to have Hines at number 1. It is 100% correct. 1. Yes his 9.95 was at altitude, but it was the official world record for 15 years. You can not fault him for where the Olympics were held. Do you know who's record he broke? His own 10.03 which he set earlier in the season at the "Night of Speed" in California on cinders. So even if he did not become the first human being to officially break the 10 second barrier, he still broke Hayes' 10.06 record. 2. He went through 2 training camps 3. He made 2 final cuts. 4. He played in regular season games and has actual stats. 5. By playing in just 1 regular season game makes him an NFL player not merely a practice squad player. (He's done that for 2 different teams) As for Hayes yes he has been an All-pro, he is in the HOF, the zone was invented to stop him, yes he was a game changer. I agree with it all, but none of that makes him any faster. He still ran 10.06 on dirt and cinders. Hines still ran 10.03 on dirt and cinders and 9.95 at altitude. Hines was faster.
@@sydboski Hines 10.03 was wind-aided and the automatic timer was not official, it was experimental. Hayes automatic-timed sea-level recorded (on cinder) lasted longer (20 years) than Hines official WR (15 years)...
@@RK-um9tu No sir Hines' 10.03 was not wind aided the wind was +0.9. Explain to me how the timing was experimental in 1968 but wasn't in 1964? You can't say Hayes' FAT sea level (on cinders) record was broken. Because they were not running on cinders anymore. Hayes FAT 10.06 was not official. the Official time is 10.00h. But Hines's 10.03 is listed at 9.9h that is official.
They only went head to head once and it was a photo finish. Brown still ran faster. Herschel Walker beat Darrell Green everytime they raced. Twice in the 100yd dash during ABC's Superstars competitions. Green still ran faster. It's not about who won the race it's about who ran the fastest.
@@sydboski also incorrect. Darrell Green beat him in the NFL fastest man and beat him in world fastest athlete. Which had baseball players sprinters. Yes Carl Lewis, and in the 40 yrd dash part green and brown went head to head in that heat and Green won. Also it wasn't a photo finish in either. You're thinking rod woodson and Willie gault or James lofton.. oh and Herschel Walker NEVER beat Green.. Green won the worlds fastest athlete award
@@sweetmusic846 Sorry but we are both incorrect. I was wrong, Green and Brown did race more than once. Green won in 1986 and in 1991. But the 1991 result was a photo finish and they were both awarded the same time 6.17. www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-07-26-sp-181-story.html BTW Brown did have the fastest time overall out of all of the competitions. nflfootballjournal.blogspot.com/2015/02/nfls-fastest-man-competition.html As far as the world's fastest athlete goes, you'll need to post the link that shows the results. Oh and Walker did beat Green in the 1987 Superstars 100yd dash. www.thesuperstars.org/comp/87pr1.html My bad Herschel lost to Gault in the final. I thought Green made the final but he didn't. All of this matters not. Green on his best day did not run faster than Brown did on his best day. It's very simple.
Bob Hayes #1 and you know this. Cinder track in a pair of borrowed shoes. I follow track too/ modern rubber tracks take off . 25 seconds. Hayes ran a 9.86 on a modern track
I guess you don't know that Hayes' best 100m is 10.06 on cinders in a pair of shoes that allowed him to run the fastest he has ever run. Including in his own shoes! Also that Hines ran 10.03 on cinders in 1968 at the AAU championships during the "Night of Speed". So does the same .25 go for Hines also? The adustments for surfaces are not 100% accurate. What is accurate is 10.06 for Hayes and 10.03 for Hines both on cinders. Make all the adjustments you want. Hines is still faster.
Jerry Bryan So what are you saying? Men aren't football players? All these men played football. What is the definition of a football player? A person who plays football. Now if you are referring to on the field speed, tell me, how is that measured?
Mel Gray, 1970s wr for the st louis cardinals keeps missing these lists..he ran 9.2 100 yards in big 8 meets more than once which shakes out to a 10.06 100 meters..can't penalize a guy for being old..lol
I've looked up Gray's stats and I found 9.4 100 yards. Even at 9.2 that would convert to 10.34. adding the 0.9 for the yards to meters, then adding the 0.24 for hand timing to fully automatic timing. That brings him up to 10.34. Very fast, but not top ten fast.
Good try, but that is not how the conversion goes. In order to convert a 100y time to a 100m time you would have to add 0.9 to the 100y time, then add the 0.24 hand time to fully automatic timing conversion addition. So the 9.2 becomes 10.34. 9.2+0.9+0.24= 10.34 www.nfhs.org/sports-resource-content/converting-times-manual-to-fat-and-from-english-to-metric-distances/ trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/showthread.php?105332-100-yards-9-8-100-meters-at web.stanford.edu/~clint/100m_nfl.htm
@@sydboski No that’s not necessarily true. Cordner Nelson started the conversion and admitted it was for seeding purposes only. How do you explain the two top guys on your list. Bob Hayes 9.1 yards 10.06 meters. Hines 9.1 yards 10.03 meters. The conversion simply doesn’t apply. Both of their yard time were hand timed their conversion to auto timing should be much higher at meters.
it’s funny how in NCAA 08 the fastest player is Percy Harvin 99 speed, Trindon Holliday has 98, and Jacoby Ford had 97, though both Ford and Holliday are listed here and Percy is no where to be found.
It's not funny at all and very easy to explain. You are referring to a video game. This video is referring to real life. In real life Harvin's best 100m is 10.43 according to Wikipedia and he doesn't have an IAAF profile. In real life Ford ran 10.01 and Holliday ran 10.00. Seems clear cut to me. Again nothing funny at all.
@@gumnba2697 EA gets the speed ratings wrong a lot. By the way you worded you first comment it seemed like you were vying for Harvin to be on this list. But ok I agree. Look at Madden they had Hester at 100 speed. Hester ran 4.41 40 and 10.62 100m. Some of these speed ratings are way off.
sydboski though I’m not surprised, it is pretty sad EA can’t even at least get the speed ratings right, also in NCAA 08 there were 2 other players tied with trindon and above jacoby in speed, a WR from Georgia #85 also a corner from Florida State #29. Both with 98.
Only thing is, Darrell Green routinely beat Ron Brown and Willie Gault, once leaving Willie Gault by a full car length. Herchel Walker smoked Ron Brown on ABCs WWoS. 100 times were probably posted in their teens so some got faster and some remained the same.
+Bill Payer First, thanks for your comment! Second you are right that Green did in fact win two 60 yard dashes in the NFL's fastest man competition in which Brown competed. Green won the competition in 1989 but he and Brown did not go head to head. In 1991 Green and Brown ran head to head in the final, both ran 6.17 but Green won via photo finish. So Green did not routinely beat Brown in the competition. Brown still has the fastest time ever in the competition at 6.095. Plus Brown's 100m time (the real fastest man race) is faster 10.06 to Green's 10.08.
Bill Payer, No. Herschel never beat Ron Brown at the 100 yd dash which they ran at the 1988 Superstars prelims. He DID, however, beat Darrell Green in the 1987 Superstars. Gault has beaten Herschel Walker as well as a 23 year old Deion Sanders.
Jake Pirate You are correct Brown did beat Walker in the 100 on the Superstars in 1988. ruclips.net/video/lwWe8X9R8FQ/видео.html But Walker did not beat Green in the 1987 Superstars. Green was hurt and did not compete. Gary Anderson took his place. ruclips.net/video/MFgRmI2iF3Q/видео.html Gault's best 100m is 10.10 which is faster than Walker's 10.23 and Sanders 10.26. I cannot validate Gault actually racing either Walker or Sanders.
The link you posted is to the 1987 Superstars Final NOT the Preliminaries. I don't think Darrell Green or Deion Sanders ever made it past the Prelims. Herschel Walker beating Darrell Green in the 100 yd dash at the 1987 Prelims: www.thesuperstars.org/comp/87pr1.html Willie Gault AND Flipper Anderson beating Sanders in the 100 yard dash: www.thesuperstars.org/comp/90pr1.html Personally, I always thought Deion was overhyped as a sprinter having watched a prime Rice and John Taylor routinely outrun him.
You are correct again. But Green's best 100m dash was 10.08. Much faster than Walker's 10.23 and faster than Gault's 10.10. I haven't seen Rice or Taylor actually out run Sanders in a chase situation. If you have any film on that, I'd like to see it. Running 10.26 in 1988 makes him no slouch.
Branch was hand timed, Hines was at altitude and on a modern mondo surface track samoe for Holiday etc,all modern mondo tracks, this why has is the fastest player ever in the NFL. his 10,06 was on a dirt track (YES DIRTZ) in Tokyo 1964 and it WAS electronic, the 64 Olympics were yhe first to use electronic timing done by Seiko. if you see that 10.06 it was on dirt and in lane one that was completely chewed up from the 10k walk . in the semi's with wind just a tick over allowable Hayes ran 9,91 also he would have been the first to break 10 seconds even on that loose dirt track if he didnt ease up on his last 3 strides. i wanna see ANYBIDY then and now in the NFL run a 10.06 100m on DIRT
+Raul Chavez Branch's time was hand timed as it says in the video. You are right about the surfaces that they ran on. But all we have to go on is the times they all ran regardless of the running surface. Bringing in "what if" changes a lot of things and opens a whole new can of stuff. So right now I'll keep it concrete with the times.
Absolutely - I love hypothetical conversation but you are right. This was an out and out list if the fastest on actual times. Thanks for making this btw. Was great viewing
''Usain Bolt vs. Bob Hayes? I want you to watch Bob Hayes' 10.06 on a dirt track in 1964 at the Tokyo Olympics. The clip below shows him dominating from the inside lane. It was featured in the documentary film “Tokyo Olympiad” by the legendary Japanese director Kon Ichikawa. Even more amazing is his anchor leg in the 4×100 relay. After the Olympics, Hayes played professional football with the Dallas Cowboys. Modern tracks are probably 2-3% faster than the dirt and cinder tracks Hayes ran on. It is also tempting to think about what might have happened if Hayes had focused on track full time instead of playing football. He never ran a race after his early 20s.''
This list is based on what is not what if. These are the facts; Hayes ran 10.06 over 100m. He did not run 9.58 (so there is no comparison to Bolt). He ran on the best tracks of his era. I am not going to start estimating how fast he "could" have run on different surfaces because it is all conjecture and not 100% accurate. It is unfortunate for Hayes to have run on dirt and cinders, but by the same token, Jim Hines ran 10.03 on dirt an cinders at the Night of Speed in early 1968 to break Hayes' record. Hines went straight to the NFL also as did most of the guys on this video. In fact all of the world class sprinters in the NFL, with very few exceptions, never ran a real race after their early 20's. These times are hard concrete and they are indisputable.
It's also true that the fastest men ever all peak in their early 20's anyway as shown by the progression of the world record runners in history and their progressions. They all peak around 23 or so and then very slowly decline from there. It's only slower athletes that improve later on as their technique is improved. Any way it's been analyzed (joint motion analysis etc), Bolt's 9.58 performance is simply out of this world. To put it into context, the IAAF scoring system would require a female sprinter to run a 10.3s 100m or a 20.89s 200m to match it in terms of how much better it is than any other performance-which seems inconceivable and may actually be physiologically impossible based on the data. This is the point - we only believe Bolt's level is possible because we actually saw it with our own eyes, but if you'd claimed it was possible you would have been laughed at. A male 400m runner would have to run 42.55s, a 400 Hurdler 45.66 and marathoner 1.59:34 in an official race (even faster than Kipchoge's incredible but planned and assisted run yesterday). Incredible.
I understand the differences between starting from a dead stop in the blocks and a running start. Regardless, no one else has equalled Hayes' anchor leg speed. In addition to the cinder track surface and primitive footwear, it's unlikely Hayes used performance enhancing drugs because the Genie only got out of the bottle in 1963, one year before. Anabolic steroids were primarily used by weightlifters, bodybuilders and football players before entering the weight events in Track and Field.
MisterNautilus What was Hayes' anchor leg speed? The 8.5 time was hand timed and thus making it a double whammy (relay split and hand timing). Hayes ran 10.06 albeit on dirt, but Hines'10.03 on dirt. So I will stick with proven 100m times to make my determinations.
The fastest guys to ever play and have an impact on the game were Bob Hayes, Darrell Green, Willie Gault, Cliff Branch, Tyreek Hill, Bo Jackson, Deon Sanders, Devon Hester. Speed means very little without skill.
Wow I did not see this notification. This list is about speed only. Football playing skill has nothing to do with this list. Your list, while impressive, is not the fastest players to ever play that had an impact. There are some players who were faster than half your list that had an impact. Your list: Hayes 10.06, Green 10.08, Gault 10.10, Branch 10.00H, Hill 10.19, Sanders 10.26, Bo 10.44, Hester 10.61 Others faster with impacts: Ron Brown 10.06, Michael Bates 10.17, Terrence Newman 10.20, Mark Duper 10.21, Herschel Walker 10.23, Jamaal Charles 10.23, Curtis Conway 10.28, Warrwick Dunn 10.31, Rod Woodson 10.34 and more.
great list, i still say Hayes is #1 because his 10.06 was on the DIRT track in Tokyo 1964 all others here ran on modern tartan rubberized surfaces, i wanna see anyone else on this list run a 10.06 on the wet chewed up cinder (ditt) track ) like hayes did. and p.s. fastest 60 yd dash in NFL fastest man competition is 6.09 by Ron Brown, Hayes back in 1963 BROKE the 6 second barrier for 60 yards with a 5.9 first man to break 6 seconds. last thing in the semi final in Tokyo hayes ran a 9.91 ON THAT DIRT TRACK, dissalowed because wind was a tick over legal
You are correct, but remember Hines ran a legal 10.03 FAT in a semifinal on a cinder dirt track at the "Night of Speed"(NOS) at Hughes Stadium in Sacramento on 6/20/68 prior to his legal but high altitude tartan track 9.95 FAT in Mexico City on 10/14/68. The 10.03 being translated into the very first legal hand timed 9.9 seconds. Hayes never achieved a recognized legal hand time or legal FAT under 10 secs. under any conditions. Hines was the first. Also Hines was able to duplicate Hayes's time for 100 yds. (9.1 secs) and 60 yds (5.9 secs). Finally I feel Hines faced stiffer competition than Hayes did. There were more sprinters in the mid to late 60's that were running between 9.1 and 9.3 for 100 yds and 10.0 to 10.1 for 100 m than in the early 60's. Charlie Greene John Carlos were both 9.1 100 yd sprinters. Bill Hurd ran 9.3 and 10.1 as did Tommie Smith. Charlie Greene and Ronnie Ray Smith also ran 9.9 at the NOS as well. Lennox Miller, Roger Bambuck, Enrique Figuerola, Mel Pender, Paul Nash, Bill Gaines and Oliver Ford were all certified hand timed 10.0 sprinters. All of those times were on cinder tracks. Outside of Pender and Figuerola, Hayes never faced any of the others. Both retired from T&F at age 22 to pursue NFL careers. Hines, thus was able to duplicate Hayes and go 1 better on Hayes in T&F, unfortunately not in football
@@crismaracana2824 Absolutely right - there is zero legitimate evidence to suggest that Hayes was definitely faster than Hines or had some kind of superpower like a lot of people seem to believe eg. 8.5s 100m relay splits on cinders, would have run 9.3 today etc etc. He was extraordinary but not the Paul Bunyan type figure he is sometimes made out to be. I would add though, that Hines' greater level of competition was actually a likely performance advantage not a disadvantage.
@@malligrub I agree 100% and if I implied that that the stiffer competition was a disadvantage I didn't mean to. I was trying to indicate that psychologically and physically Hines had to be more sharp and up on his game than Hayes did b/c of the higher volume and quality of competition during the late 60's which leads to your point of it being a performance advantage. I just don't think that Hayes would have been quite as successful had he faced Hines and the other competitors mentioned.
I don't agree. Bob Hayes ran on a dirt/cinder track. You have to consider that everyone else ran on a synthetic rubber track. So put the Bullet on top and move everyone else on slot down. Now you have a list.
+G-Force Speed You are correct. Bob Hayes ran on a dirt/cinder track. But everyone else did not run on rubber. Tinker and Hines ran on what was called a tartan track which was actually polyurethane. The rubber did not come along till later. Bob would have certainly run faster on a better surface. How much faster? We don't really know. There is no 100% way of actually knowing what he would have run. Unless he actually ran on it. Which he did not. I chose not do deal with the "what if's" and deal with the "what is". Had I gone the "what if" route, i would be trying to adjust everyone's times from dirt to cinder, from cinder to polyurethane, from polyurethane to rubber and so on... This is the real deal, the facts, reality, actuality, certainty. It is indisputable. BTW: Jim Hines ran 10.03 on cinder in 1968 (N LS).
The what if's is the heart breaker. If Bob Hayes would have went one more Olympic cycle he would have ran on the Tartan track and went down in history as the fastest ever by time. Some guy did a study and test with Andre Degrasse using a dirt track, hand made spikes from that era, and ran an 11.00 flat. That is very telling!
+G-Force Speed It's still what if. You don't know how fast Bob would have run. Nobody does. It's possible he could have had an off day or false started twice (back then it was not one and done). We don't know and we will never know. It is impossible to know for sure. But it is fun musing about it.
Syd, forget hand timing. Using the method described in my original comment, mark the frame of film where Hayes receives the baton and count the frames to where he breaks the finish line. We know he ran the full anchor leg distance because he wasn't disqualified. Divide the number of frames of film by 24 and you get 8.5 seconds. No human has covered that distance faster than Mr. Bob Hayes.
MisterNautilus It is still not an exact science. The actual start to the 100m is exactly halfway through the passing zone. From the film I have watched of the race, Hayes received the baton right at the end of the passing zone. Which means he ran less than 100m. The passing zones are 20m long, so Hayes could have run anywhere from 109-91m. No two races are ever the same.
Decent list but you forgot the receiver who was the most prolific deep threar in the 70s, a college 9.2 100 yard sprinter and an all pro under the first Coryell pro offense in St. Louis...Mel Gray. There's actually a very nice you tube compilation under his name. He was faster than anyone even Bob Hayes and Cliff Branch. Ask any NFC east fan whose secondary was torched by him. Hate to be a homer but Cardinals pro bowl 80s WR Roy Jet stream Green was as fast on the field as anyone during his era. He frequently had Darrell Green for lunch. Also I may have missed it but was James Lofton on the list.
+Paul Randolph The most prolific and feared deep threat in the 70's was Cliff Branch. Bob Hayes was the World Record Holder in the 100m dash in 1964 so there is no way Gray was faster. Their personal bests Hayes 10.06 Fully automatic timing. Branch 10.00 hand timed. Gray 10.10 hand timed. Branch was faster. Roy Green was a good receiver after he transitioned from DB. but he never had any track and field training, so he wasn't world class. Lofton was a long jumper 200m and 400m man.
David Suarez If runner A beats runner B 8 of 10 races, but in one of B's wins he breaks the world record. Who's fastest? B of course. If runner A runs a personal best of 9.2 and runner B runs a personal best of 9.1, who's fastest? B of course. Lastly when and where were these 10 races they ran against each other? Especially if Branch was on Colorado and Gray was in Missouri.
David Saurez You have one more chance to comment with a lame insult. Then I'm shutting you down. It seems to me like the one with all the hostility towards someone who can erase them with a click is not so smart. Each of your comments ends with a lame insult. Why? You might need some help. If you cannot debate with out the petty name calling, you will be dismissed. Now that that is out of the way. Ok they ran against each other and were in the same conference. It all doesn't mean a thing if Gray's best is NOT faster than Branch's. The criteria for this list (my list) is who ran the fastest time. Not who won more races. As it says in the video. Cliff Branch 10.00. Gray never ran that fast. As far as most prolific goes. That is an opinion, and everyone has one. Yours looks at 40 yd tds. Others might look at avg per catch, yards per game, long catches (td or not), or something else. To me you cannot be the premier deep threat if you never had a 1000 yard season. I see how you conveniently overlooked my questions and didn't comment on them. Is it because you know I'm right and it is damaging to your point?
Jim Hines was at Mexico City (massively altitude assited at least 0.1-0.12s for 100m at 2500m above sea level) so was actually a 10.05 at best. Bob Hayes' 10.06 at the Olympics on a cinder track chewed up by the distance runners, heavy leather spikes, with dug out holes in the track instead of starting blocks and was done in 1968 with poor training, nutrition, horrible technique and virtually zero understanding of biomechanics within athletics circles. It's been shown that he'd be doing Yohan Blake/Tyson Gay type times if he was running now ~9.69 - 9.75s times...
Malligrub 1 Actually Hines ran 10.03 on the night of speed on dirt and cinders early in the season of 1968. This list is about what is not what if. Those projections are opinions. Calculated opinions but opinions nonetheless. Everything here is concrete and provable.
@@johnmarshall4782 Just so you are aware, Jim Hines still ran faster on a cinder dirt track with a 10.03 I believe was the time. If not then it was a 10.04. Check google, they should have it there. And that's still faster than Bob Hayes 10.06. Facts are facts.
Yes Curtis Dickey was super fast. Faster than Bo Jackson and just as big. Just wasn't a great RB in the pros ..had one 1000 yard season. How about Philip Epps dude lost by a inch to Green than a year later lost to Brown who set a record in his race vs. Epps.
Dickey weighed 213 to Bo's 227. So Bo was bigger, but Dickey was faster 10.11 to 10.44 100m. A closer comparison would be Herschel Walker 225lbs. He ran faster than Bo also at 10.23 100m. Epps best 100m was 10.24.
This list has no hand times. With the exception of the honorable mention Cliff Branch the rest are fully automatic timing. There are only 3 types of timing. 1. Hand: started and stopped by hand. Used by international track and field til 1963-1964 and by the NFL til 1998. 2. Semi automatic: started by hand and stopped by laser. The NFL uses this for their 40 yd dashes since 1999. 3. Fully Automatic Timing or FAT: Started by gun and stopped by laser. Used by international track and field since 1964. Notice there is no electronic timing. Electronic refers to how the time is displayed. Like on a time clock or scoreboard. It is not an actual timing method.
I got tired of looking at the other lists where they use opinions to get their top 10. I decided to come up with a list that is definitely indesputable. There are clear set parameters unlike the other videos where you don't know how they gathered the players or what they used to rank the players. There are arguments and debates on who should be ranked where in the comments. Of course you will get someone who will want to argue about everything.. I made this list to show who actually ran the fastest.
I guarantee none of the other NFL guys ran 10.17 or faster at age 20! Michael Bates was timed only once in the 100m, and he was only 20 years old, running a 10.17. He was still years from his peak. Also, he wasn't even a 100m guy. He was a 200m specialist. He would have been a legend if he stayed in track instead of the NFL at age 22. He retired from track at age 21 right after he won the bronze medal at the '92 olympics in the 200m. Go wiki him. Look at his body in the images.
I think you need to do a little more research. I have the date he ran it also. 6/1/1972. Just look on the Colorado Buffalo's web site. You will see it too.
jakesnake66 Thanks for the comment. Mel Gray ran 10.1 hand timed 100m which converts to 10.34 fully automatic. Sorry he's not fast enough to make this list.
I started to follow the Dallas Cowboys in the early sixties when Eddie LeBaron was the QB and Meredith was his backup. Watching that team play through the years was rarely as much fun as when Bullet Bob Hayes was on the field. He was so dynamic and capable of spontaneous feats that were nothing short of dazzling.
So because you never heard of him means Green was faster? Green is not even top 5. How would he be #1? There are 7 other players who ran faster. Your statement makes no sense.
Gerald Tinker was a good friend of mine back in the early to mid 90's out in LA. He taught me that sprinting was 90% upperbody strength & quickness. He also taught me how to run the turn for the 200m. He was a funny dude & a good friend. I hope he is doing well.
@@sydboski Hahaha I commented on another video tonight or rather this morning talking about how you know your shit with Track & Football & you left a link to this, your video that you put together & I saw this (my) comment. So thumbs up from a year ago about Gerald Tinker. Salute bro, you really do know your shit! I'll see you in the comment sections soon educating people on the real.
I remember Harvey glance saying the same thing In a sportsIllustrated. At 148 pounds he said he could bench 340. He said when the taller sprinters put their longer legs against him he would put his upper body strength against them. Weird statement But I kind of get the meaning.
I do not know where you got that I am a "known Darrell Green hater", because I am not. People get mad because I tell the truth. Where is the hate in telling the truth? Green's fans don't want to hear that their guy isn't the fastest. Neither do Deion Sanders', Bo Jackson's, or Bob Hayes' fans. None of them want to hear that their guy is not the fastest. Well sorry to burst their bubbles. Truth hurts sometimes. None of them can honestly say with 100% certainty that, "no one in the history of NFL football has run faster than me". If they did, they would be lying through their teeth. Jim Hines is the only one who can say that with 100% certainty. This list is not disputable. It is the top 10 fastest players by 100m times. No hate involved, just facts.
@@adoiz1085 LOL. This is the only list you cannot debate against. There is nothing you can look up, find, or make up to refute this list because it is the only list based on actual times and not opinions. You are obliviously mad because I refuted something you wrote. It's ok. but you are going to have to come better than this. This list is the ONLY accurate list.
We're forgetting about wearing pads.Some guys they don't slow down others do,big difference.Fastest with pads on #1Deion.#2Bo Jack.#3Darrell Green.#4Tyrek Hill.#5D.K.Metcalf.Acceleration is more important then pure speed in the NFL.Football speed is different then on the Track.
No. We are not forgetting about wearing pads. This is not about wearing pads this is about who ran the fastest period. That is why its called The REAL NFL's Fastest Men in History. If you are running in pads, you are not running at your maximum velocity. You are being restricted by the extra 12-15 lbs of equipment. Next you name a few players. How are you measuring their speed IN PADS to determine who ran fastest? What determining factor are you using to gauge their speed to compare guys not on the same field or from different eras. You see, THAT is the difference in my list, your list and the vast majority of the other lists out there. Mine is based on ACTUAL measured speed. Which is indesputable. Your and the others are based on yours and their opinions. Speed is not judged or determined by opinons. You don't vote to determine who is fastest. You time them. If you wanted a list on the tallest or heaviest players would you conduct a vote? No. You'd get their heights and weights because they were measured and weighed. Same for speed. Use their times. On field speed is not measureable to compare guys not from the same era. You named Bo, yet Bo was run down from behind on the field in pads by Rod Jones. You named Darrell Green, yet he was out run on the field in pads by Ron Brown and Michael Haines. James Jett had Sanders beat on a bomb, Sanders had to reach out and grab Jett to stop the play. Sanders was also about to be blown by on the field in pads by Ron Brown. Sanders had the advantage of having the angle of pursuit. But it is clearly seen that without it, Sanders is left in Brown's wake. Very big difference in using official times and just an opinion.
go look up the night of speed. Hines amd Charlie Green broke the world record 3 tomes within 2 hrs. Hines prevailed in the final,10.03 on cinders. Hines and Hayes,are the fastest tp ever suit up.
Britt Courville Already know about the Night of Speed. Unfortunately that 10.03 is not Hines' best time. The 9.95 later that year is. Hayes' best was 10.06 in 1964. But you can't dismiss Trindon Holliday 10.00, Jeff Demps 10.01 & Jacoby Ford 10.01.
Bob Hayes ran a 10.06 100m in borrowed shoes on a cinder track(like running in sand) that was tore up from the steeplechase ran just before the 100m & oh he used short starting blocks you had to dig a hole for! And he ran a 8.6 2nd leg on the Gold 4X100 m relay. No doubt he is the fasted NFL player ever
Umm....No. The borrowed shoes allowed him to run faster than he ever did before. So they couldn't have been too much of a hindrance. The track was raked and repacked before that race. If you look at this picture. You do not see a torn up track. Yes it is more worn than the rest but not torn up. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_1964_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_100_metres#/media/File:100m_dash_1964_Olympics.jpg. You did not dig holes for the blocks you used a wooden hammer to pound in the long spikes at both ends of the blocks. His HAND timed relay split is first of all unofficial. Two, it was closer to 8.9 because in order for him to have run 8.6 the rest of the field would have had to have been close to 8.9 which NONE of them were capable of. Jim Hines ran 10.03 on cinders with the same blocks at the night of speed during the AAU champs in 1968. So even if I decided to consider running surfaces, which I am not, Hayes still would not be the fastest.
@@rickromano5723 Look at the stats and you tell me what anchor outside of Hayes was capable of running an 8.9 split. Place Lane Nation Athletes Time 1 7 United States Paul Drayton, Gerry Ashworth, Richard Stebbins, Bob Hayes 39.0 seconds WR 2 6 Poland Andrzej Zielinski, Wieslaw Maniak, Marian Foik, Marian Dudziak 39.3 seconds 3 2 France Paul Genevay, Bernard Laidebeur, Claude Piquemal, Jocelyn Delecour 39.3 seconds 4 4 Jamaica Pablo McNeil, Patrick Robinson, Lynn Headley, Dennis Johnson 39.4 seconds 5 8 Soviet Union Edvin Ozolin, Boris Zubov, Gusman Kosanov, Boris Savchuk 39.4 seconds 6 5 Venezuela Arquimedes Herrera, Lloyd Murad, Rafael Romero, Hortensio Herrera Fucil 39.5 seconds 7 3 Italy Livio Berruti, Ennio Preatoni, Sergio Ottolina, Pasquale Giannattasio 39.5 seconds 8 1 Great Britain Peter Radford, Ronald Jones, Menzies Campbell, Lynn Davies 39.6 seconds Poland - Marian Dudziak has a 10.2h PB, a 10.46 FAT and was eliminated in round 2 of the 64 Olympic 100m with 10.5h. France - Jocelyn Delecour Was not one of the 3 Frenchmen to make the 100m. He has a PB of 10.31 FAT back in 1959. He was about to turn 30. Jamaica - Dennis Johnson was also eliminated in round 2 of the 100m with a 10.5h. He has a PB of 10.2h Russia - Boris Savchuk was a 200/400 runner with a PB of 20.7h over 200m Japan - Hortensio Herrera Fucil was a 400m runner with a PB of 47.9h Great Britain - Lynn Davies was a long jumper with a PB of 10.7h 100m.
So now you are on my video doubting my credentials? LMAO!! You need to stick to what you think you know. You obviously know this less than you know English.
Unfortunately, successful track athletes and don't often make successful football players. Most of the men on your list were marginal football players at best.
Michael Bates, won the 100m and 200m in both fresh and soph years, then he won an Olympic Medal n the 200m.oh, and he played 13 NFL seasons making the Pro BPwl 5 times and was voted a member of the All Decade team in 1990's. BOOM
How Mark Duper (WR - Miami Dolphins) is not on this list proves the criteria here and the homework done to create this list is terribly flawed! Duper was a first rate track star. He won in the finals of the 400-meter relay at the 1981 NCAA track and field championships at Northwestern State University, where he teamed up with the late-Joe Delaney of the KC Chiefs. In the 1980 Olympic trials Duper finished seventh in the 200-meter dash and reached the semifinals of the 100. He competed in the 100 meters and 200 meters, posting personal bests of 10.11 seconds and 20.77 seconds, respectively. Duper ran a 4.25 second 40-yard dash at the NFL combine in 1982 which should easily qualify him in the top 10 fastest NFL players ever. Sorry your list isn't better researched and scientific. Duper has been robbed!
LOL. If anyone's information or research is flawed, it is yours. School is open! 1. The 40 does not measure how fast these guys run. It only measures quickness and partial acceleration because they do not reach maximum velocity til about 50m out. They are still accelerating at the 40yd mark. So the 40 cannot possibly determine who runs the fastest when they aren't even running their fastest. Lat time I checked, top speed was part of how fast you run. 2. This video used the 100m dash to determine who ran the fastest. The 100m decides who is the fastest on planet earth. 3. Duper's best 100m is 10.21 not 10.11. I do not know where you got your incorrect information from. I got my information from the World Athletics (formally the IAAF) web site. This is where all times go to be ratified. www.worldathletics.org/athletes/united-states/mark-duper-014346543 4. Even if Duper did run 10.11 he STILL would not be in the top 10. The slowest time in the top10 is 10.10. Comprende? 5. Did you even watch the video? 6. Next time you try and come at someone in the comment section, please make sure your information is correct, and try not to sound like such a jerk. You are dismissed. LMAO!!!
Why not make a video on who had the nicest hairdo of them all and get Vidal Sassoon to chime in just to make it appear scientific? Look, Flebowsky, it's really quaint that you've unilaterally decided what criteria qualifies someone as belonging in the NFL fastest ever category, but it seems that no less than the NFL disagrees with your methodology. They DON'T consider the 100M and rely solely on the 40-yard dash. I realize that they're just the NFL (what do they know, anyway?!). However, if you were approaching this open-mindedly and being intellectually honest, you would - at minimum- create an algorithm that considers both measurements of speed and blend the two to arrive at a really honest final tabulation. And if you did, you would undoubtedly have to include Mark Duper in your confirmation bias measurements. Oh, and no mention of Joe Delaney either? He was nearly as fast as Duper - faster than Cliff Branch, for sure - and deserved better than no mention. Lastly, I know Mark Duper and my recitation of his stats are spot-on. There's been a typo somewhere. Now, come down off of your high 🐎 horse and acknowledge your sins. Duper belongs on any Top-10 NFL speed list. Consider yourself thoroughly and completely rebuked. Fare thee well!
@@pathurley3581 @Pat Hurley Lol. Do you know what Delusions of Grandeur is? You should, because you are suffering from a big bout with it. 1. The 40 is not designed to measure how fast player's run. It was invented to see how quickly special teams could cover a punt. If you knew your NFL history you would have known that. Also the 40 was hand timed up until 1998. In 1999 the combine switched to semi automatic timing. But the 40 is STILL started by hand. 2. This is my video and this is the way I wanted it done. If you want a video that combines a real race and a special teams test, then go do so. 3. Who says the NFL relies solely on the 40? You? LOL. If the NFL relied solely on the 40 then Why doesn't Bob Hayes, Jim Hines, Ron Brown, Willie Gault, Curtis Dickie, Sam Graddy, and several others have no NFL 40 times? I'll tell you why. Because they knew from their 100m times they were fast and did not need a 40 time. 4. BTW this video is not about football speed, which the 40 is related to. It's about who ran the FASTEST. Something only the 100m can decide and the 40 cannot. Where do you run the fastest? on the track or on the turf? On the track of course. Fastest. Not a test on turf where your speed is restricted. LOL. 5. Again Duper's 100m time is 10.21 not 10.11. And neither makes the top 10. It's very simple. I did some digging and found the Duper's 40 was 4.28. Hmmm. www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1984/08/30/dolphins-big-catch-duper-from-marino/1a8804cd-3b17-4b72-92cb-94b79cd678ab/ Twould seem that your 40 time for Duper is also incorrect. 4.28 not 4.25 as you obnoxiously said earlier. Looks like Duper is not in the top 10 in either the 100m or the 40. According to Grid Iron Studs, Duper's 4.28 would rank him outside the top 35. www.gridironstuds.com/blog/the-fastest-40-yard-dash-ever/ LOL!! 6. Joe Delaney, faster than Branch? What are you smoking? Branch was a world class sprinter. Delaney was not. Delaney has a reported 4.4 in the 40 and has a 10.45 100m. Compared to Branch who ran a reported 4.17 40 and 10.00h 100m. Stop it. Joe's reported 4.4 40 www.csmonitor.com/1982/1209/120937.html Branch's reported 4.17 visual.ly/community/Infographics/sports/11-fastest-players-nfl-history 7. You said, "Now, come down off of your high 🐎 horse and acknowledge your sins. Duper belongs on any Top-10 NFL speed list. Consider yourself thoroughly and completely rebuked". LMAO!!! You come with incorrect information for a guy who wouldn't make the top 10 even if your information was correct. Lol. You bring up and even slower guy and thing he should be mentioned in the top 10. LOL!! Then you want to act like you did something LOL!! Dude, you are indeed funny. When you want to refute some one's findings you have to come with the correct information and you have to come with proof to back your information. You've done neither. Good day.
As I said, Sherlock, errors or reporting errors where Mark Duper's official times are concerned have been made on your part, or those reported are correct but not the only fact present. To wit the Washington Post article.... it IS correct. However, that was a time clocked while playing football and running track at college. At the 1982/83 NFL Combine, Mark Duper ran a 4.25 second 40-yard dash. This time trumped his previous best of 4.28 which the Post inexplicably reported as the official best. It was not. Now, you can dismiss the importance of the 40-yard dash until the cows come home but this doesn't diminish it at all as a key matrix in evaluating speed for potential NFL players. Indeed, your fixation on the 100M is as arbitrary and irrelevant as any other single measurement of speed, taken in isolation from all others. Why not measure a player's speed in the 5-mile sprint or how about judging who's the fastest after 4-quarters of football? Or, better,, how about measuring speed in pads and with football cleats on?? I can slice and dice this with you all week. See? I can invent all kinds of fanciful nonsense measurements which amounts to subjective garbage just like you did. Bottom line, Lebowsky, you'd gain a lot more credibility and a lot less incredulous laughter if you would revisit your formulary and at least attempt an amalgamation of speed measurements (short and long distance), average them, and then rethink your profoundly flawed list while sober. Lastly, Joe Delaney is spitting in your face from the grave for that slight and the intentional mangling of his records. Cliff Branch! Pfffffffffft!
Oh, one more thing that matters little to anyone with tunnel vision...... Mark Duper raced against Carl Lewis (yeah, THAT Carl Lewis) in an NCAA track meet in college while Lewis was running for the Univ. of Houston, AND MARK DUPER BEAT HIM. Yes, that was a mic drop moment, Lebowsky. And, yes, that just happened.
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Bob Hayes is the fastest ever to set foot on this earth.
LOL That is funny. How so?
HERSHEL WALKER !!!!!
What about him? His best 100m is 10.23 not top 10 fast. That ranks tied for 29th all time in NFL history.
all these guys are elite speed. But in football, the 40 yard dash is a far more useful tool. I understand stamina is a huge plus for some positions but if you get past someone in football they usually have to change direction to catch you which means they won't.
This list is not about playing football. It's about who ran the fastest. The 40 does not measure who can run the fastest, It does not measure the top speed of the fastest players.
What about the Rocket Ismael ? Napolean Kaufman was fast too.. Joey Galloway .... Reynaldo Neamiah . Deon Sanders , Bo Jackson ..... all of them did track too...
Rocket 10.61 FAT 10.2 hand, Kaufman 10.56, Galloway 10.35 reported, Nehemiah 10.24, Sanders 10.26, Bo 10.44. Great players, but not among the top 20 fastest.
Alexander Wright James Jett
Wright never ran the 100m, Jett ran 10.16 not top 10.
ALL MIGHT BE TRUE BUT NOBODY EVER RAN FASTER IN A GAME THEN BO JACKSON KINGDOME RUN 90 YARDS. HES SO FAST I CANT EVEN COUNT 1 ONE THOUSANDTO SEE HOW MANY YARDS HE COVERS WHEN HE GETS TO THE 40/. ITS UNREAL
Not true. Bo only looked like he was running super fast, because the guys that were chasing him were not fast. there are plenty of players who ran faster on the field. In this play both players were running faster than Bo ever ran. ruclips.net/video/LMpYVd9QPbs/видео.htmlsi=lVeAMM-xj_V6wqu0
Here are some others
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@@sydboski You proved u dont know what youre saying with this list. Bob Hayes was the fastest he ran on cinder and they adjusted his times and he wouldve been much faster. Cliff Branch was faster than all these guys as well
@@thedude-jb7wx LMAO!!!
1. Who is they?
2.. Any adjustments made for surfaces are not official.
3. Hayes did run 10.06 on cinders. But Hines ran 10.03 on cinders during the 1968 AAU championships at Hughes Stadium in Sacramento. The meet was bka "The Night of Speed".
4. Cliff Branch ran 10.00, but. It was HAND timed, not fully automatic timing like the 10 guys on my list.
5. Anyone who knows a little about the conversion of hand time to FAT knows you add +0.24 to the hand time to make it simulate FAT, So Branch's 10.00 h would be 10.24 FAT.
6. If there is anyone who doesn't know what they are talking about, it's not me. Lol!
Thanks for commenting anyway!!😆😆
Bob Hayes, hands down. At the 1964 Olympic Games in Tokyo, Hayes ran the anchor leg of the 4x100 in 8.5 seconds which is the fastest a human has ever run. He overcame a nine meter deficit to win by two meters.
We do have a way to prove this and it's simple mathematics. Synchronous motors for motion picture cameras operate at exactly 24 frames per second. Each second is divided into forty-eight parts because the shutter is closed half the time as the film is being transported between frames and then open half the time to expose the film. Simply by counting the frames, we can establish the time from when Hayes received the baton to when he crossed the finish line.
Consideration must be given to the slower cinder track surface in Tokyo and the shoes worn by sprinters during that era insofar as weight and energy return. He'd be even faster on today's tracks.
MisterNautilus Sorry can't use relay splits. One, they are not official. Two they are already running when they get the baton. There are too many variables to consider. How fast the third runner is coming in. When they get the baton. Is it early or late in the passing zone. They don't always run a full 100m. These are the reasons why I used official 100m times. They are more accurate and reliable.
Hand time
@ProphetMarcus He was not in 9th place, the time was hand timed, and the anchors he was running against were not the cream of the crop. The leg was timed frame by frame and determined to be 8.9-9.0. There is no way in blue hell he would have been at 30mph or even close to 7.9.
hard to debate, but there is a difference between what their best time was when the were actually training in Track and how fast they were during their playing days on the field with pads on. Cant imagine there are faster guys than Darrel green, Bob Hayes and Ron Brown, but it is all debatable
It's not debateable. This list is about who ran the fastest period. Not who ran the fastest on the field in pads ect... You don't run your fastest on the field. You run your fastest on the track. Yes there is a difference. On the track is faster and measurable. On the field is slower and not measurable.
@@sydboski ok, we are talking about something different then, yes these are the nfl players with he fasted recorded 100 times, my point is that does not meant that automatically translated on the football field during their careers
@@maxsmiley7191 Never said it translated to the field. These are just the fastest players ever. No other NFL players ran faster than these did. That's it.
@@sydboski I can appreciate your position, although I find it a bit rigid. My only real issue is that referring to Jim Hines as a football player is like calling Pseudo-Number 45 a faithful husband, or an honest man. Some contradictions in terms just cry out for correction or challenge. But the fact remains no matter how poor his football career was, the NFL teams who had him on their roster did pay him. Accordingly, it does offer a small premise one could theoretically hang their hat on.
Michael Bates tho. His 100m was timed in 1991 when he was only 20 years old at 10.17. Just out of being a teen. He retired from track at 21, after the 1992 olympics. He joined the NFL in 1993 at 22 years old. We don't know how fast he could have been. His fastest years were from 1992-2000. He was a 200m specialist, and could fly. Won the bronze medal in the '92 olympics. I am really really sure he breaks 10 seconds easily if that was his event. Wiki Michael Bates. Look how he was built. No steroids either. He was built like Tyson Gay, and Justin Gatlin. I remember him well. 2x track all-american. 5x All-Pro, and 5x Pro Bowler as a returner. All from 1996-2000. Voted all decade team as a returner. No doubt he breaks 9.9 if he was a track man. Retiring from track at 21 does not a track man maketh. And, he won the bronze medal at 21 in the 200m. Imagine at 25, or 28 years of age.
Bates best 100m was 10.17. Sorry not fast enough for the top 10.
@@sydboski Yeah, but he beats anyone in the 200m. Made the pro bowl as a returner, for his speed. He won a bronze medal in the olympics in the 200m.
@@omgDavidGlasper True. But this is about the fastest. The 100m is the standard.
@@sydboski Just saying because he was the fastest in the nfl during his time. 5 time pro bowler and 5 time all pro all from 1996-2000 as a returner. NFL all decades team. I'm sure he could have ran the 100m faster than 10 seconds if thats the event he trained for.
@@omgDavidGlasper All I can go on is what is not what if.
Some other very deserving honorable mentions:
Curtis Dickey, Stanley Morgan, Johnny"Lam" Jones, James "Jett", Phillip Epps, Renaldo Nehemiah, Roy ""Jetstream" Green , Bo Jackson and William "The Refrigerator" Perry
jo schmo Dickey 10.11 certainly. Morgan had no formal track training. Jones 10.23. Jett 10.14 certainly. Epps was a 200m man. Nehemiah 10.24. Roy Green had no formal track training. He wasn't even the fastest Cardinal. That was Mel Gray. Bo, sorry, his best was only 10.44 not world class. Frige, no comment.
sydboski i hear yea, but Morgan and Green still could run away from a secondary.
Wesley Walker could also
There are naturally fast guys that play/played in the NFL. But they were not world class sprinters. That is a different level of speed. The players you mentioned plus, Mike Quick, Randy Moss, Megatron, Jerry Rice, Lynn Swann and John Stallworth, Charlie Brown, The Greatest show on turf; Isaac Bruce, Tory Holt, and Az-Zahir Hakim, and many others could run away from secondaries with natural speed. But their speed can't compare to the world class sprinters in this list.
@@natureboy1313 Don't forget Tom Brady!
Raiders love having burners.
They sure do.
I noticed that as well.
Nice video. Very cool. Track speed and football "game speed" are somewhat different though, even though fast is still fast
Thanks! Yes track and football speeds are different. Track speed is faster. Since this list is the "fastest", gotta go with just that. Thee fastest.
James Jett gotta be #1
Sorry, Jett's best is 10.16. Not top 10.
I appreciate how you put this information together and made it available. The only problem with this is no player ever sprints 100 meters straight on a football field. It is always bursts of 20, 30, 40 or 50 yards. Never really much else. A more accurate race would be a 40 or 60 yard or meter dash. And another thing about using 100 meter dash is that some of these players don't reach full speed so until the last 40 meters of a 100 meter race, which means they never reach that speed on a football field. Again, I appreciate the research you did but you can't judge the fastest NFL players by the 100 meter dash.
Thank you for your input, but this is not about playing football. It is about who ran the fastest and just happened to play in the NFL. The 100m dash is the only race that has all of the components of one's overall speed. 1. Start/quickness, 2. acceleration, 3. top speed, and 4. speed endurance (which allows you to maintain top speed for a short time and slows deceleration). No other race has all 4. The 40 has 1&2. The 60 has 1,2&3 (sprinters don reach top speed til about 50m out). The 200 has 1,2&4.
The 100m determines who is the fastest human. It is more than suitable for my purposes.
@@sydboski It's about who is fastest on the football field. The fastest time on the track is irrelevant if you don't ever reach that speed on the football field.
@@mercuryrising2424 No. It's about who is fastest period. This is not about playing football. You cannot measure on field speed to compare players not on the same field or from different eras. The fastest times on the track are the "FASTEST" you can reach and that is what the video is about. The fastest. Not the fastest in pads, in a game, or on the field. Thee Fastest possible.
@@sydboski Then why mention NFL players? If you are going to judge it that way, then using NFL players makes it irrelevant since it is not their playing speed.
What if the NFL created an obstacle course of targets and have all the quarterbacks throw balls at targets and moving targets? They can judge their accuracy and then use that contest to determine who is the best quarterback. Forget about playing the actual game. lol
@@mercuryrising2424 Because the prerequisite is that you had to play in the NFL.
There is a vast difference in best and fastest. Best is based on opinions. Fastest is measurable. Which is what the video is about.
There two distinctly different things that need to be considered here. Technically you are correct about the “fastest” men ever to play in an NFL game. However, the other consideration is “quickness”. When it comes to quick no NFL player could beat Darrell Green. Two more things to consider: one, like many if not most players these gentlemen had to bulk up to play NFL football. How fast were they at their actual playing weight and two, when teams come to evaluate potential draft picks they don’t care how fast they can run 100 meters. It’s how fast they are at 40 yards. Once again I tip my hat to Darrell Green.
Thanks for commenting! You have some very good points, but this video is just about who ran the fastest. Not quickest, not on field when they go to the NFL. Just who ran the fastest. The 40 yard dash doesn't measure how fast you run. It only measures quickness and partial acceleration because the really fast runners don't reach top speed till after 50m out. So how can the 40 yard dash determine how fast you run if you are not running your fastest. It cannot. That is why I used the 100m dash. It has all of the components of true speed. Start, acceleration, top speed and speed endurance. It determines who is the fastest person on the planet.
Speaking on quickness. Green's 40 time is only 4th best all time Bo 4.12 (suspect, if you ask me), Alexander Wright & Michael Bennett both ran 4.13 and then Green with his 4.15. All hand timed by the way. But if you notice Hines, Hayes, and Ron Brown have no 40 times, but Hayes and Brown have faster 60 times than Green too. Hayes 5.9, Brown 6.09, Green 6.10. Quickness is something too, but it's not considered in this video.
A 25 year old Darrell Green could not catch a 35 year old Cliff Branch. Game conditions MATTER.
@@eliduttman315 What makes you think Green couldn't catch Branch?
Because 35 year old Branch out ran 25 year old Green in a game. Check the video out. ruclips.net/video/CLZlnaH1KtI/видео.html All sorts of highlights. What I want to know is why Branch isn't in the HoF. Then again, look how long it took for Jerry Kramer. The selectors seem to be on loco weed.
@Eli Duttman If you are referring to the 2 clips starting at 2:55 in the video you posted, Green was not guarding Branch on either of those plays. Both times Branch lined up on the left side of the offense which would be the right side of the defense. Green played left CB. We don't know where Green was on that play or if Green was even on the field during the 99 yard td. In the Superbowl he was on the other side too. He came across the field when the ball was thrown. That's why he was behind. Green was faster than Branch. Hey, Branch is my favorite player of all time. He should be in the HOF. Especially over that bum Lynn Swann. But being realistic Green was faster.
this is not a video its a slideshow
Curtis Dickey?
At the time I made this video Curtis Dickey at 10.11 was 11th. Today he is 12th because Anthony Schwartz ran 10.09 to knock off Gault. (Tinker was a mistake).
Nice job!! I agree with your selections.
+Septimus Pretorius Thank you! It would be very hard to disagree with proven times. Your comments are appreciated.
***** The only player who did not run on a modern track was Bob Hayes. I chose not to deal with the "what if's". I chose to go with the hard facts, The times. They are indisputable. Getting into the running surfaces opens my list to new debates.
Thank you for your very polite email response to my observations. I am an older gentleman and, having never done this kind of thing before, I was concerned how my effort would be received. As for your clarifications you are indeed correct. We’re i to tell you I was born and raised in Washington D.C. it might go a long way to explain my admiration for Darrell Green. Thank you again.
We need to know the age of everyone listed here. Michael Bates was timed at 10.17 at only 20 years of age! He was just out of his teenage years. He was still a few years away from being at his peak. The others listed here werent 20 years old with those times. They were probably in their mid to late 20's.
Jett born 12/1970 ran 10.16 6/1992. He was 21. Whitted was born 7/4/1974 ran 10.07 7/15/1995. He just turned 21, 11 days earlier. Trapp was 22. None were in there mid to late 20's.
Bates ran at least 12 100m competitions from 1987-1992.
BTW Bates was 21 when he ran 10.17.
Pretty good list. However, track speed doesn't always translate to football speed. Darrell Green smoked Ron Brown by a yard in a 60!!!
No he did not. Green and Brown ran head to head one time. It was a photo finish. They had to go to the tape to determine the winner. They were given the same time at 6.17, but Green was given the win. Green's best in those fastest men competitions is 6.10. Brown's was 6.09. Brown also out ran Green on the field during a kickoff return.
No one is talking about the speed transferring to the field. This is about who ran the fastest and nothing else.
@Christina Shubin Green ran a personal best of 6.10 60 yards in those NFL fastest man competitions. Brown ran 6.09, even though Green beat Brown via photo finish in their only head to head race. Green's best 100m was 10.08 where as Brown's was 10.06. Green was not behind Brown during that chase. Green was down field and actually has a slight angle on Brown, but Green still had to dive to barely clip Brown's heel as he went into the end zone. Brown was clearly faster than Green.
Green lost to Walker not once but twice in the Superstars 100 yard dash even though Green's best 100m is 10.08 to Walker's 10.23. Green is still faster in this case.
@Andrew Yes the both were beasts. But Green was the safety valve player on that play in case Brown broke it. So Green did not run down the field. That's why when you see him, he and the kicker are the last players on the defense. When he saw Brown was going to break it he already had turned and started running diagonally back across the field. The blocker helped him if anything by pushing him down field. Green was already downfield so he had a slight angle on Brown. I don't see where he made up any ground at all on Brown. Looks like Brown out ran Green's angle of pursuit to me.
@Andrew I watched the game too. They kicked off from their own 35, but Green never passed the opposite 40 yard line. Here is the play it starts at 2:43 ruclips.net/video/rUOKK89nSrk/видео.html. Brown most likely did not reach full speed til close to the 50 yard line because he had to turn at his own 37-40.
@Andrew Thats all fine and dandy. But Green was the safety valve and he never ran past the Rams 40 yard line.
Can't believe Ford was there ..he seemed quick jitterbug type but not track fast..there was a guy who tried out for the Fins in 88 and 89. His name was Ricardo Cartwright. They said he ran 4.07 but he had hands of stone was a backup WR from Florida A&M.
Ford did indeed run 10.01 on 6/10/2009. Cartwright never made the team so he was never in the NFL. Plus the 40 is too short for these guys to get to top speed. If he was ever timed at 4.07 it was a hand time by a person who is not very good at timing anything. World 60m record holder and quickest starter ever Christian Coleman ran 4.12. There is no way anyone is out running him in the first part of any race.
Does anyone know if Deion was ever timed in the 100m? Two others worth looking into would be Larry Burton, WR Purdue, Saints and Chargers, who finished 4th in the 200m in the 1972 Olympics, and Renaldo Nehemia, who set eight world records in indoor and outdoor hurdles and ran the 110m hurdles in 12.93. Nehemia played three seasons with the 49ers.
Prime ran 10.26, Renaldo 10.24, Burton ran a hand timed 10.2 which converts to 10.44 fully automatic timing.
@@sydboski Thanks for that info.
@@TonyPhillipsSD No prob.
@@sydboski One more - Randy Moss ran a school-record 21.15 200m indoors while at Marshall.
@@TonyPhillipsSD I've seen that. But they don't list a method of timing. He also has a 10.94 100m dash time early on HS.
Unfair to have Hines on there at number one.....first of all his sub 10 was run at altitude.....second he was merely a practice squad player.....Bob was an all pro for many years, in the HOF, and defensive schemes used today like zone, were designed to stop Hayes. Game changer
It's absolutely not unfair to have Hines at number 1. It is 100% correct.
1. Yes his 9.95 was at altitude, but it was the official world record for 15 years. You can not fault him for where the Olympics were held. Do you know who's record he broke? His own 10.03 which he set earlier in the season at the "Night of Speed" in California on cinders. So even if he did not become the first human being to officially break the 10 second barrier, he still broke Hayes' 10.06 record.
2. He went through 2 training camps
3. He made 2 final cuts.
4. He played in regular season games and has actual stats.
5. By playing in just 1 regular season game makes him an NFL player not merely a practice squad player. (He's done that for 2 different teams)
As for Hayes yes he has been an All-pro, he is in the HOF, the zone was invented to stop him, yes he was a game changer. I agree with it all, but none of that makes him any faster. He still ran 10.06 on dirt and cinders. Hines still ran 10.03 on dirt and cinders and 9.95 at altitude. Hines was faster.
@@sydboski Hines 10.03 was wind-aided and the automatic timer was not official, it was experimental. Hayes automatic-timed sea-level recorded (on cinder) lasted longer (20 years) than Hines official WR (15 years)...
@@RK-um9tu No sir Hines' 10.03 was not wind aided the wind was +0.9. Explain to me how the timing was experimental in 1968 but wasn't in 1964? You can't say Hayes' FAT sea level (on cinders) record was broken. Because they were not running on cinders anymore. Hayes FAT 10.06 was not official. the Official time is 10.00h. But Hines's 10.03 is listed at 9.9h that is official.
Darrell Green beat Ron Brown every time they raced
They only went head to head once and it was a photo finish. Brown still ran faster. Herschel Walker beat Darrell Green everytime they raced. Twice in the 100yd dash during ABC's Superstars competitions. Green still ran faster.
It's not about who won the race it's about who ran the fastest.
@@sydboski also incorrect. Darrell Green beat him in the NFL fastest man and beat him in world fastest athlete. Which had baseball players sprinters. Yes Carl Lewis, and in the 40 yrd dash part green and brown went head to head in that heat and Green won. Also it wasn't a photo finish in either. You're thinking rod woodson and Willie gault or James lofton.. oh and Herschel Walker NEVER beat Green.. Green won the worlds fastest athlete award
@@sweetmusic846 Sorry but we are both incorrect. I was wrong, Green and Brown did race more than once. Green won in 1986 and in 1991. But the 1991 result was a photo finish and they were both awarded the same time 6.17. www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-07-26-sp-181-story.html
BTW Brown did have the fastest time overall out of all of the competitions. nflfootballjournal.blogspot.com/2015/02/nfls-fastest-man-competition.html
As far as the world's fastest athlete goes, you'll need to post the link that shows the results.
Oh and Walker did beat Green in the 1987 Superstars 100yd dash. www.thesuperstars.org/comp/87pr1.html My bad Herschel lost to Gault in the final. I thought Green made the final but he didn't.
All of this matters not. Green on his best day did not run faster than Brown did on his best day. It's very simple.
@@sweetmusic846 Hershel did beat Green
Darrell Green. Even in his later years was fast af
Yes he was. But at his fastest he was only 8 all-time.
Hayes ran his on a cinder track and would be around 9.8 on todays tracks
Hines also ran 10.03 on cinders. Which is faster than Hayes' 10.06.
Bob Hayes #1 and you know this. Cinder track in a pair of borrowed shoes. I follow track too/ modern rubber tracks take off . 25 seconds. Hayes ran a 9.86 on a modern track
I guess you don't know that Hayes' best 100m is 10.06 on cinders in a pair of shoes that allowed him to run the fastest he has ever run. Including in his own shoes! Also that Hines ran 10.03 on cinders in 1968 at the AAU championships during the "Night of Speed". So does the same .25 go for Hines also? The adustments for surfaces are not 100% accurate. What is accurate is 10.06 for Hayes and 10.03 for Hines both on cinders. Make all the adjustments you want. Hines is still faster.
Fastest man maybe. Fastest football player Darrell Greene
Jerry Bryan So what are you saying? Men aren't football players? All these men played football. What is the definition of a football player? A person who plays football.
Now if you are referring to on the field speed, tell me, how is that measured?
sydboski bet none of these players could run a 4.43 in their 50s
@@gumnba2697 Who cares? The 40 doesn't measure how fast the really fast guys are.
Ron Brown was faster than Darrell Green
ruclips.net/video/LMpYVd9QPbs/видео.html
@@robtaylor1156 Not so sure that's the case. At 5:15 of this video you'll see: ruclips.net/video/EUuj8UE32DQ/видео.html
Mel Gray, 1970s wr for the st louis cardinals keeps missing these lists..he ran 9.2 100 yards in big 8 meets more than once which shakes out to a 10.06 100 meters..can't penalize a guy for being old..lol
I've looked up Gray's stats and I found 9.4 100 yards. Even at 9.2 that would convert to 10.34. adding the 0.9 for the yards to meters, then adding the 0.24 for hand timing to fully automatic timing. That brings him up to 10.34. Very fast, but not top ten fast.
9.2 ÷ 91.44 x 100 = 10.0612423
Good try, but that is not how the conversion goes. In order to convert a 100y time to a 100m time you would have to add 0.9 to the 100y time, then add the 0.24 hand time to fully automatic timing conversion addition. So the 9.2 becomes 10.34. 9.2+0.9+0.24= 10.34
www.nfhs.org/sports-resource-content/converting-times-manual-to-fat-and-from-english-to-metric-distances/
trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/showthread.php?105332-100-yards-9-8-100-meters-at
web.stanford.edu/~clint/100m_nfl.htm
@@sydboski No that’s not necessarily true. Cordner Nelson started the conversion and admitted it was for seeding purposes only. How do you explain the two top guys on your list. Bob Hayes 9.1 yards 10.06 meters. Hines 9.1 yards 10.03 meters. The conversion simply doesn’t apply. Both of their yard time were hand timed their conversion to auto timing should be much higher at meters.
@@davidsuarez3003 It's not a conversion. It is their actual times.
it’s funny how in NCAA 08 the fastest player is Percy Harvin 99 speed, Trindon Holliday has 98, and Jacoby Ford had 97, though both Ford and Holliday are listed here and Percy is no where to be found.
It's not funny at all and very easy to explain. You are referring to a video game. This video is referring to real life. In real life Harvin's best 100m is 10.43 according to Wikipedia and he doesn't have an IAAF profile. In real life Ford ran 10.01 and Holliday ran 10.00. Seems clear cut to me. Again nothing funny at all.
sydboski yes I am referring to the video game and I find it pretty ridiculous that EA rated Percy faster than Ford and Holliday who are ranked 3,2
@@gumnba2697 EA gets the speed ratings wrong a lot. By the way you worded you first comment it seemed like you were vying for Harvin to be on this list. But ok I agree. Look at Madden they had Hester at 100 speed. Hester ran 4.41 40 and 10.62 100m. Some of these speed ratings are way off.
sydboski though I’m not surprised, it is pretty sad EA can’t even at least get the speed ratings right, also in NCAA 08 there were 2 other players tied with trindon and above jacoby in speed, a WR from Georgia #85 also a corner from Florida State #29. Both with 98.
What about WR James Jett that used to play for the Raiders?
Jett ran 10.16 100m fast but not top 10 fast.
@@sydboski Gotcha
Only thing is, Darrell Green routinely beat Ron Brown and Willie Gault, once leaving Willie Gault by a full car length. Herchel Walker smoked Ron Brown on ABCs WWoS. 100 times were probably posted in their teens so some got faster and some remained the same.
+Bill Payer First, thanks for your comment! Second you are right that Green did in fact win two 60 yard dashes in the NFL's fastest man competition in which Brown competed. Green won the competition in 1989 but he and Brown did not go head to head. In 1991 Green and Brown ran head to head in the final, both ran 6.17 but Green won via photo finish. So Green did not routinely beat Brown in the competition. Brown still has the fastest time ever in the competition at 6.095. Plus Brown's 100m time (the real fastest man race) is faster 10.06 to Green's 10.08.
Bill Payer,
No. Herschel never beat Ron Brown at the 100 yd dash which they ran at the 1988 Superstars prelims. He DID, however, beat Darrell Green in the 1987 Superstars. Gault has beaten Herschel Walker as well as a 23 year old Deion Sanders.
Jake Pirate You are correct Brown did beat Walker in the 100 on the Superstars in 1988. ruclips.net/video/lwWe8X9R8FQ/видео.html
But Walker did not beat Green in the 1987 Superstars. Green was hurt and did not compete. Gary Anderson took his place. ruclips.net/video/MFgRmI2iF3Q/видео.html
Gault's best 100m is 10.10 which is faster than Walker's 10.23 and Sanders 10.26.
I cannot validate Gault actually racing either Walker or Sanders.
The link you posted is to the 1987 Superstars Final NOT the Preliminaries. I don't think Darrell Green or Deion Sanders ever made it past the Prelims. Herschel Walker beating Darrell Green in the 100 yd dash at the 1987 Prelims:
www.thesuperstars.org/comp/87pr1.html
Willie Gault AND Flipper Anderson beating Sanders in the 100 yard dash:
www.thesuperstars.org/comp/90pr1.html
Personally, I always thought Deion was overhyped as a sprinter having watched a prime Rice and John Taylor routinely outrun him.
You are correct again. But Green's best 100m dash was 10.08. Much faster than Walker's 10.23 and faster than Gault's 10.10. I haven't seen Rice or Taylor actually out run Sanders in a chase situation. If you have any film on that, I'd like to see it. Running 10.26 in 1988 makes him no slouch.
Branch was hand timed, Hines was at altitude and on a modern mondo surface track samoe for Holiday etc,all modern mondo tracks, this why has is the fastest player ever in the NFL. his 10,06 was on a dirt track (YES DIRTZ) in Tokyo 1964 and it WAS electronic, the 64 Olympics were yhe first to use electronic timing done by Seiko. if you see that 10.06 it was on dirt and in lane one that was completely chewed up from the 10k walk . in the semi's with wind just a tick over allowable Hayes ran 9,91 also he would have been the first to break 10 seconds even on that loose dirt track if he didnt ease up on his last 3 strides. i wanna see ANYBIDY then and now in the NFL run a 10.06 100m on DIRT
+Raul Chavez Branch's time was hand timed as it says in the video. You are right about the surfaces that they ran on. But all we have to go on is the times they all ran regardless of the running surface. Bringing in "what if" changes a lot of things and opens a whole new can of stuff. So right now I'll keep it concrete with the times.
Raul Chavez Mexico City 1968 track was not mondo. Also Hines ran 10.03 on cinder in 1968. Hayes is regarded as being the better 100m man of course
N LS Good Jim Hines knowledge! Still the list is based on who ran the fastest only.
Absolutely - I love hypothetical conversation but you are right. This was an out and out list if the fastest on actual times. Thanks for making this btw. Was great viewing
N LS I am a fan of hypos also.
Thank you for viewing! Tell your friends.
Jim Hines is a track man that tried to play football. Bob Hayes is a track man that could play football
Ok. What's your point? Jim was still faster.
''Usain Bolt vs. Bob Hayes? I want you to watch Bob Hayes' 10.06 on a dirt track in 1964 at the Tokyo Olympics. The clip below shows him dominating from the inside lane. It was featured in the documentary film “Tokyo Olympiad” by the legendary Japanese director Kon Ichikawa.
Even more amazing is his anchor leg in the 4×100 relay. After the Olympics, Hayes played professional football with the Dallas Cowboys.
Modern tracks are probably 2-3% faster than the dirt and cinder tracks Hayes ran on. It is also tempting to think about what might have happened if Hayes had focused on track full time instead of playing football. He never ran a race after his early 20s.''
This list is based on what is not what if. These are the facts; Hayes ran 10.06 over 100m. He did not run 9.58 (so there is no comparison to Bolt). He ran on the best tracks of his era.
I am not going to start estimating how fast he "could" have run on different surfaces because it is all conjecture and not 100% accurate. It is unfortunate for Hayes to have run on dirt and cinders, but by the same token, Jim Hines ran 10.03 on dirt an cinders at the Night of Speed in early 1968 to break Hayes' record. Hines went straight to the NFL also as did most of the guys on this video. In fact all of the world class sprinters in the NFL, with very few exceptions, never ran a real race after their early 20's.
These times are hard concrete and they are indisputable.
It's also true that the fastest men ever all peak in their early 20's anyway as shown by the progression of the world record runners in history and their progressions. They all peak around 23 or so and then very slowly decline from there. It's only slower athletes that improve later on as their technique is improved. Any way it's been analyzed (joint motion analysis etc), Bolt's 9.58 performance is simply out of this world. To put it into context, the IAAF scoring system would require a female sprinter to run a 10.3s 100m or a 20.89s 200m to match it in terms of how much better it is than any other performance-which seems inconceivable and may actually be physiologically impossible based on the data. This is the point - we only believe Bolt's level is possible because we actually saw it with our own eyes, but if you'd claimed it was possible you would have been laughed at. A male 400m runner would have to run 42.55s, a 400 Hurdler 45.66 and marathoner 1.59:34 in an official race (even faster than Kipchoge's incredible but planned and assisted run yesterday). Incredible.
to show how fast darrell green was he was between 38-41 yrs old he ran with randy moss and held his own
That doesn't show how fast Green was. Moss wasn't that fast. Green was a world class sprinter. Moss wasn't.
Green caught t dorsett from 15 yards behind on mnf
I understand the differences between starting from a dead stop in the blocks and a running start. Regardless, no one else has equalled Hayes' anchor leg speed. In addition to the cinder track surface and primitive footwear, it's unlikely Hayes used performance enhancing drugs because the Genie only got out of the bottle in 1963, one year before. Anabolic steroids were primarily used by weightlifters, bodybuilders and football players before entering the weight events in Track and Field.
MisterNautilus What was Hayes' anchor leg speed? The 8.5 time was hand timed and thus making it a double whammy (relay split and hand timing). Hayes ran 10.06 albeit on dirt, but Hines'10.03 on dirt. So I will stick with proven 100m times to make my determinations.
The fastest guys to ever play and have an impact on the game were Bob Hayes, Darrell Green, Willie Gault, Cliff Branch, Tyreek Hill, Bo Jackson, Deon Sanders, Devon Hester. Speed means very little without skill.
Wow I did not see this notification. This list is about speed only. Football playing skill has nothing to do with this list.
Your list, while impressive, is not the fastest players to ever play that had an impact. There are some players who were faster than half your list that had an impact.
Your list: Hayes 10.06, Green 10.08, Gault 10.10, Branch 10.00H, Hill 10.19, Sanders 10.26, Bo 10.44, Hester 10.61
Others faster with impacts: Ron Brown 10.06, Michael Bates 10.17, Terrence Newman 10.20, Mark Duper 10.21, Herschel Walker 10.23, Jamaal Charles 10.23, Curtis Conway 10.28, Warrwick Dunn 10.31, Rod Woodson 10.34 and more.
And with the exceptions of Bob Hayes, Cliff Branch, & Darrell Green none of these players were great which shows that speed can be overrated at times.
Thanks for posting. Ron Brown and Willie Gault had very productive careers also. But this is a list of speed only. Greatness is a whole new world.
cliff branch ran a 4.28 at 36 in 1984
Where is this posted? Please reply with the link.
kenny carlson Hellooo? Where is this posted so the rest of the world can see. Or is this something you made up?
And not one of those guys played faster than Primetime.... Like if you agree....
And just how do you know that? Did you measure how fast each of them ran while they were playing?
There’s these clowns on the CJ2K video saying Tyreek Hill is slower than Chris Johnson lol
They obviously don't know what they are talking about.
great list, i still say Hayes is #1 because his 10.06 was on the DIRT track in Tokyo 1964 all others here ran on modern tartan rubberized surfaces, i wanna see anyone else on this list run a 10.06 on the wet chewed up cinder (ditt) track ) like hayes did. and p.s. fastest 60 yd dash in NFL fastest man competition is 6.09 by Ron Brown, Hayes back in 1963 BROKE the 6 second barrier for 60 yards with a 5.9 first man to break 6 seconds. last thing in the semi final in Tokyo hayes ran a 9.91 ON THAT DIRT TRACK, dissalowed because wind was a tick over legal
+Raul Chavez Jim Hines ran 10.03 on dirt before he officially broke the 10 second barrier in 1968
You are correct, but remember Hines ran a legal 10.03 FAT in a semifinal on a cinder dirt track at the "Night of Speed"(NOS) at Hughes Stadium in Sacramento on 6/20/68 prior to his legal but high altitude tartan track 9.95 FAT in Mexico City on 10/14/68. The 10.03 being translated into the very first legal hand timed 9.9 seconds. Hayes never achieved a recognized legal hand time or legal FAT under 10 secs. under any conditions. Hines was the first. Also Hines was able to duplicate Hayes's time for 100 yds. (9.1 secs) and 60 yds (5.9 secs). Finally I feel Hines faced stiffer competition than Hayes did. There were more sprinters in the mid to late 60's that were running between 9.1 and 9.3 for 100 yds and 10.0 to 10.1 for 100 m than in the early 60's. Charlie Greene John Carlos were both 9.1 100 yd sprinters. Bill Hurd ran 9.3 and 10.1 as did Tommie Smith. Charlie Greene and Ronnie Ray Smith also ran 9.9 at the NOS as well. Lennox Miller, Roger Bambuck, Enrique Figuerola, Mel Pender, Paul Nash, Bill Gaines and Oliver Ford were all certified hand timed 10.0 sprinters. All of those times were on cinder tracks. Outside of Pender and Figuerola, Hayes never faced any of the others. Both retired from T&F at age 22 to pursue NFL careers. Hines, thus was able to duplicate Hayes and go 1 better on Hayes in T&F, unfortunately not in football
Agreed.By the way,I was present in the old Madison Square Garden the night Hays went 5.9 and if you blinked you missed it.Crowd went crazy.
@@crismaracana2824 Absolutely right - there is zero legitimate evidence to suggest that Hayes was definitely faster than Hines or had some kind of superpower like a lot of people seem to believe eg. 8.5s 100m relay splits on cinders, would have run 9.3 today etc etc. He was extraordinary but not the Paul Bunyan type figure he is sometimes made out to be. I would add though, that Hines' greater level of competition was actually a likely performance advantage not a disadvantage.
@@malligrub I agree 100% and if I implied that that the stiffer competition was a disadvantage I didn't mean to. I was trying to indicate that psychologically and physically Hines had to be more sharp and up on his game than Hayes did b/c of the higher volume and quality of competition during the late 60's which leads to your point of it being a performance advantage. I just don't think that Hayes would have been quite as successful had he faced Hines and the other competitors mentioned.
I don't agree. Bob Hayes ran on a dirt/cinder track. You have to consider that everyone else ran on a synthetic rubber track. So put the Bullet on top and move everyone else on slot down. Now you have a list.
+G-Force Speed You are correct. Bob Hayes ran on a dirt/cinder track. But everyone else did not run on rubber. Tinker and Hines ran on what was called a tartan track which was actually polyurethane. The rubber did not come along till later. Bob would have certainly run faster on a better surface. How much faster? We don't really know. There is no 100% way of actually knowing what he would have run. Unless he actually ran on it. Which he did not. I chose not do deal with the "what if's" and deal with the "what is". Had I gone the "what if" route, i would be trying to adjust everyone's times from dirt to cinder, from cinder to polyurethane, from polyurethane to rubber and so on... This is the real deal, the facts, reality, actuality, certainty. It is indisputable.
BTW: Jim Hines ran 10.03 on cinder in 1968 (N LS).
The what if's is the heart breaker. If Bob Hayes would have went one more Olympic cycle he would have ran on the Tartan track and went down in history as the fastest ever by time. Some guy did a study and test with Andre Degrasse using a dirt track, hand made spikes from that era, and ran an 11.00 flat. That is very telling!
+G-Force Speed It's still what if. You don't know how fast Bob would have run. Nobody does. It's possible he could have had an off day or false started twice (back then it was not one and done). We don't know and we will never know. It is impossible to know for sure. But it is fun musing about it.
Syd, forget hand timing. Using the method described in my original comment, mark the frame of film where Hayes receives the baton and count the frames to where he breaks the finish line. We know he ran the full anchor leg distance because he wasn't disqualified. Divide the number of frames of film by 24 and you get 8.5 seconds. No human has covered that distance faster than Mr. Bob Hayes.
MisterNautilus It is still not an exact science. The actual start to the 100m is exactly halfway through the passing zone. From the film I have watched of the race, Hayes received the baton right at the end of the passing zone. Which means he ran less than 100m. The passing zones are 20m long, so Hayes could have run anywhere from 109-91m. No two races are ever the same.
Decent list but you forgot the receiver who was the most prolific deep threar in the 70s, a college 9.2 100 yard sprinter and an all pro under the first Coryell pro offense in St. Louis...Mel Gray. There's actually a very nice you tube compilation under his name. He was faster than anyone even Bob Hayes and Cliff Branch. Ask any NFC east fan whose secondary was torched by him. Hate to be a homer but Cardinals pro bowl 80s WR Roy Jet stream Green was as fast on the field as anyone during his era. He frequently had Darrell Green for lunch. Also I may have missed it but was James Lofton on the list.
+Paul Randolph The most prolific and feared deep threat in the 70's was Cliff Branch. Bob Hayes was the World Record Holder in the 100m dash in 1964 so there is no way Gray was faster. Their personal bests Hayes 10.06 Fully automatic timing. Branch 10.00 hand timed. Gray 10.10 hand timed. Branch was faster. Roy Green was a good receiver after he transitioned from DB. but he never had any track and field training, so he wasn't world class. Lofton was a long jumper 200m and 400m man.
Branch was the most feared wr of the 70's period.
David Suarez Still Branch has the faster time. Branch 10.0 hand time to Gray 10.1 hand time. There is no debate.
David Suarez If runner A beats runner B 8 of 10 races, but in one of B's wins he breaks the world record. Who's fastest? B of course. If runner A runs a personal best of 9.2 and runner B runs a personal best of 9.1, who's fastest? B of course. Lastly when and where were these 10 races they ran against each other? Especially if Branch was on Colorado and Gray was in Missouri.
David Saurez You have one more chance to comment with a lame insult. Then I'm shutting you down. It seems to me like the one with all the hostility towards someone who can erase them with a click is not so smart. Each of your comments ends with a lame insult. Why? You might need some help. If you cannot debate with out the petty name calling, you will be dismissed. Now that that is out of the way.
Ok they ran against each other and were in the same conference. It all doesn't mean a thing if Gray's best is NOT faster than Branch's. The criteria for this list (my list) is who ran the fastest time. Not who won more races. As it says in the video. Cliff Branch 10.00. Gray never ran that fast.
As far as most prolific goes. That is an opinion, and everyone has one. Yours looks at 40 yd tds. Others might look at avg per catch, yards per game, long catches (td or not), or something else. To me you cannot be the premier deep threat if you never had a 1000 yard season.
I see how you conveniently overlooked my questions and didn't comment on them. Is it because you know I'm right and it is damaging to your point?
Jim Hines was at Mexico City (massively altitude assited at least 0.1-0.12s for 100m at 2500m above sea level) so was actually a 10.05 at best. Bob Hayes' 10.06 at the Olympics on a cinder track chewed up by the distance runners, heavy leather spikes, with dug out holes in the track instead of starting blocks and was done in 1968 with poor training, nutrition, horrible technique and virtually zero understanding of biomechanics within athletics circles. It's been shown that he'd be doing Yohan Blake/Tyson Gay type times if he was running now ~9.69 - 9.75s times...
Malligrub 1 Actually Hines ran 10.03 on the night of speed on dirt and cinders early in the season of 1968. This list is about what is not what if. Those projections are opinions. Calculated opinions but opinions nonetheless. Everything here is concrete and provable.
Hayes was never caught or ran down in a one on one situation in the open field. He is Number One.
Neither were any of the guys on the list.
Hayes ran on a dirt track
I am well aware of all the surfaces these guys ran on. Bottom line is he still ran 10.06. Can't change that.
sydboski de grass ran 9.91 in Rio Olympics. He ran 11.0 on dirt.
John Marshall What is your point?
@@johnmarshall4782 Just so you are aware, Jim Hines still ran faster on a cinder dirt track with a 10.03 I believe was the time. If not then it was a 10.04. Check google, they should have it there. And that's still faster than Bob Hayes 10.06. Facts are facts.
BreuckelensFinest Bob Hayes Dan on a dirt track which is worse than Cinder, Bob Also has the faster 60 Yard, 100 Yard & 4x100 Relay split time
Yes Curtis Dickey was super fast. Faster than Bo Jackson and just as big. Just wasn't a great RB in the pros ..had one 1000 yard season. How about Philip Epps dude lost by a inch to Green than a year later lost to Brown who set a record in his race vs. Epps.
Dickey weighed 213 to Bo's 227. So Bo was bigger, but Dickey was faster 10.11 to 10.44 100m. A closer comparison would be Herschel Walker 225lbs. He ran faster than Bo also at 10.23 100m. Epps best 100m was 10.24.
So u got hand times and electronic. The new electronic guys are faster
This list has no hand times. With the exception of the honorable mention Cliff Branch the rest are fully automatic timing. There are only 3 types of timing.
1. Hand: started and stopped by hand. Used by international track and field til 1963-1964 and by the NFL til 1998.
2. Semi automatic: started by hand and stopped by laser. The NFL uses this for their 40 yd dashes since 1999.
3. Fully Automatic Timing or FAT: Started by gun and stopped by laser. Used by international track and field since 1964.
Notice there is no electronic timing. Electronic refers to how the time is displayed. Like on a time clock or scoreboard. It is not an actual timing method.
How’d you get this idea?
I got tired of looking at the other lists where they use opinions to get their top 10. I decided to come up with a list that is definitely indesputable. There are clear set parameters unlike the other videos where you don't know how they gathered the players or what they used to rank the players. There are arguments and debates on who should be ranked where in the comments. Of course you will get someone who will want to argue about everything.. I made this list to show who actually ran the fastest.
@@sydboski I was the comment on the other video about Ross and Hill
@@devontasson6556 Why would you ask a question about another video in the comments on my video?
@@devontasson6556 My bad I did not understand what you were saying in your last comment. I got it now.
sydboski cuz it was the same topic: fastest players
I guarantee none of the other NFL guys ran 10.17 or faster at age 20! Michael Bates was timed only once in the 100m, and he was only 20 years old, running a 10.17. He was still years from his peak. Also, he wasn't even a 100m guy. He was a 200m specialist. He would have been a legend if he stayed in track instead of the NFL at age 22. He retired from track at age 21 right after he won the bronze medal at the '92 olympics in the 200m. Go wiki him. Look at his body in the images.
We cannot go on what you think he could have done if he continued to run. No one knows what he would have done.
branch ran a 9.2 100 yds. he never competed in meters. js
I think you need to do a little more research. I have the date he ran it also. 6/1/1972. Just look on the Colorado Buffalo's web site. You will see it too.
Excellent list, good job. But you left out Mel Gray.
jakesnake66 Thanks for the comment.
Mel Gray ran 10.1 hand timed 100m which converts to 10.34 fully automatic. Sorry he's not fast enough to make this list.
Mel gray is only person who played in the NFL that beat Jimmy Hines in a race. Sorry that’s just needed saying.
dude bob hayes was pretty much faster than bob hayes
Bob Hayes was faster than himself?😲
I started to follow the Dallas Cowboys in the early sixties when Eddie LeBaron was the QB and Meredith was his backup.
Watching that team play through the years was rarely as much fun as when Bullet Bob Hayes was on the field. He was so dynamic and capable of spontaneous feats that were nothing short of dazzling.
Ron Kathman No argument from me partner!
Darrell Green should have been #1, no one's even heard of Jim Hines
So because you never heard of him means Green was faster? Green is not even top 5. How would he be #1? There are 7 other players who ran faster. Your statement makes no sense.
Gerald Tinker was a good friend of mine back in the early to mid 90's out in LA. He taught me that sprinting was 90% upperbody strength & quickness. He also taught me how to run the turn for the 200m. He was a funny dude & a good friend. I hope he is doing well.
+BreuckelensFinest Niiiicccee!!!
@@sydboski Hahaha I commented on another video tonight or rather this morning talking about how you know your shit with Track & Football & you left a link to this, your video that you put together & I saw this (my) comment. So thumbs up from a year ago about Gerald Tinker. Salute bro, you really do know your shit! I'll see you in the comment sections soon educating people on the real.
@@BreuckelensFinest How you doing Bro? I hope you and yours are doing well in this BS.
I remember Harvey glance saying the same thing In a sportsIllustrated. At 148 pounds he said he could bench 340. He said when the taller sprinters put their longer legs against him he would put his upper body strength against them. Weird statement But I kind of get the meaning.
You are a known Darrell Green Hater😂😂
I do not know where you got that I am a "known Darrell Green hater", because I am not. People get mad because I tell the truth. Where is the hate in telling the truth? Green's fans don't want to hear that their guy isn't the fastest. Neither do Deion Sanders', Bo Jackson's, or Bob Hayes' fans. None of them want to hear that their guy is not the fastest. Well sorry to burst their bubbles. Truth hurts sometimes. None of them can honestly say with 100% certainty that, "no one in the history of NFL football has run faster than me". If they did, they would be lying through their teeth. Jim Hines is the only one who can say that with 100% certainty. This list is not disputable. It is the top 10 fastest players by 100m times. No hate involved, just facts.
@@adoiz1085 Have to defend the truth.
@@adoiz1085 LOL. This is the only list you cannot debate against. There is nothing you can look up, find, or make up to refute this list because it is the only list based on actual times and not opinions. You are obliviously mad because I refuted something you wrote. It's ok. but you are going to have to come better than this. This list is the ONLY accurate list.
@@adoiz1085 you should quit now. You're getting hammered with facts.
@@adoiz1085 Dee Best is calling it like they see it. You are fighting a raging fire with a straw and a dixie cup.
We're forgetting about wearing pads.Some guys they don't slow down others do,big difference.Fastest with pads on #1Deion.#2Bo Jack.#3Darrell Green.#4Tyrek Hill.#5D.K.Metcalf.Acceleration is more important then pure speed in the NFL.Football speed is different then on the Track.
No. We are not forgetting about wearing pads. This is not about wearing pads this is about who ran the fastest period. That is why its called The REAL NFL's Fastest Men in History. If you are running in pads, you are not running at your maximum velocity. You are being restricted by the extra 12-15 lbs of equipment. Next you name a few players. How are you measuring their speed IN PADS to determine who ran fastest? What determining factor are you using to gauge their speed to compare guys not on the same field or from different eras. You see, THAT is the difference in my list, your list and the vast majority of the other lists out there. Mine is based on ACTUAL measured speed. Which is indesputable. Your and the others are based on yours and their opinions. Speed is not judged or determined by opinons. You don't vote to determine who is fastest. You time them. If you wanted a list on the tallest or heaviest players would you conduct a vote? No. You'd get their heights and weights because they were measured and weighed. Same for speed. Use their times. On field speed is not measureable to compare guys not from the same era. You named Bo, yet Bo was run down from behind on the field in pads by Rod Jones. You named Darrell Green, yet he was out run on the field in pads by Ron Brown and Michael Haines. James Jett had Sanders beat on a bomb, Sanders had to reach out and grab Jett to stop the play. Sanders was also about to be blown by on the field in pads by Ron Brown. Sanders had the advantage of having the angle of pursuit. But it is clearly seen that without it, Sanders is left in Brown's wake.
Very big difference in using official times and just an opinion.
go look up the night of speed. Hines amd Charlie Green broke the world record 3 tomes within 2 hrs. Hines prevailed in the final,10.03 on cinders. Hines and Hayes,are the fastest tp ever suit up.
Britt Courville Already know about the Night of Speed. Unfortunately that 10.03 is not Hines' best time. The 9.95 later that year is. Hayes' best was 10.06 in 1964. But you can't dismiss Trindon Holliday 10.00, Jeff Demps 10.01 & Jacoby Ford 10.01.
sydboski true,but that 10..03 was on a cinder track. Dont know what it would convert to on today'ssurfaces.
Britt Courville That is true too. And since we don't really know what the times would be, I went with what is and not with what might have been.
Bob Hayes ran a 10.06 100m in borrowed shoes on a cinder track(like running in sand) that was tore up from the steeplechase ran just before the 100m & oh he used short starting blocks you had to dig a hole for! And he ran a 8.6 2nd leg on the Gold 4X100 m relay. No doubt he is the fasted NFL player ever
Umm....No. The borrowed shoes allowed him to run faster than he ever did before. So they couldn't have been too much of a hindrance. The track was raked and repacked before that race. If you look at this picture. You do not see a torn up track. Yes it is more worn than the rest but not torn up. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_1964_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_100_metres#/media/File:100m_dash_1964_Olympics.jpg.
You did not dig holes for the blocks you used a wooden hammer to pound in the long spikes at both ends of the blocks. His HAND timed relay split is first of all unofficial. Two, it was closer to 8.9 because in order for him to have run 8.6 the rest of the field would have had to have been close to 8.9 which NONE of them were capable of.
Jim Hines ran 10.03 on cinders with the same blocks at the night of speed during the AAU champs in 1968. So even if I decided to consider running surfaces, which I am not, Hayes still would not be the fastest.
@@sydboski in your opinion they were not Capable off running 8.9!! Your opinion isn’t that true?!!
@@rickromano5723 Look at the stats and you tell me what anchor outside of Hayes was capable of running an 8.9 split.
Place Lane Nation Athletes Time
1 7 United States Paul Drayton, Gerry Ashworth, Richard Stebbins, Bob Hayes 39.0 seconds WR
2 6 Poland Andrzej Zielinski, Wieslaw Maniak, Marian Foik, Marian Dudziak 39.3 seconds
3 2 France Paul Genevay, Bernard Laidebeur, Claude Piquemal, Jocelyn Delecour 39.3 seconds
4 4 Jamaica Pablo McNeil, Patrick Robinson, Lynn Headley, Dennis Johnson 39.4 seconds
5 8 Soviet Union Edvin Ozolin, Boris Zubov, Gusman Kosanov, Boris Savchuk 39.4 seconds
6 5 Venezuela Arquimedes Herrera, Lloyd Murad, Rafael Romero, Hortensio Herrera Fucil 39.5 seconds
7 3 Italy Livio Berruti, Ennio Preatoni, Sergio Ottolina, Pasquale Giannattasio 39.5 seconds
8 1 Great Britain Peter Radford, Ronald Jones, Menzies Campbell, Lynn Davies 39.6 seconds
Poland - Marian Dudziak has a 10.2h PB, a 10.46 FAT and was eliminated in round 2 of the 64 Olympic 100m with 10.5h.
France - Jocelyn Delecour Was not one of the 3 Frenchmen to make the 100m. He has a PB of 10.31 FAT back in 1959. He was about to turn 30.
Jamaica - Dennis Johnson was also eliminated in round 2 of the 100m with a 10.5h. He has a PB of 10.2h
Russia - Boris Savchuk was a 200/400 runner with a PB of 20.7h over 200m
Japan - Hortensio Herrera Fucil was a 400m runner with a PB of 47.9h
Great Britain - Lynn Davies was a long jumper with a PB of 10.7h 100m.
Bo Jackson you mean 😁
Sorry, Bo at 10.44 is not in the top 70 fastest on NFL history.
Blud never played college football
So now you are on my video doubting my credentials? LMAO!! You need to stick to what you think you know. You obviously know this less than you know English.
Unfortunately, successful track athletes and don't often make successful football players. Most of the men on your list were marginal football players at best.
+Rev. Gary McLendon Horrible, marginal, or great it doesn't matter. They all played in the NFL. They are truly the fastest men that ever played.
Michael Bates, won the 100m and 200m in both fresh and soph years, then he won an Olympic Medal n the 200m.oh, and he played 13 NFL seasons making the Pro BPwl 5 times and was voted a member of the All Decade team in 1990's. BOOM
How Mark Duper (WR - Miami Dolphins) is not on this list proves the criteria here and the homework done to create this list is terribly flawed! Duper was a first rate track star. He won in the finals of the 400-meter relay at the 1981 NCAA track and field championships at Northwestern State University, where he teamed up with the late-Joe Delaney of the KC Chiefs. In the 1980 Olympic trials Duper finished seventh in the 200-meter dash and reached the semifinals of the 100. He competed in the 100 meters and 200 meters, posting personal bests of 10.11 seconds and 20.77 seconds, respectively. Duper ran a 4.25 second 40-yard dash at the NFL combine in 1982 which should easily qualify him in the top 10 fastest NFL players ever. Sorry your list isn't better researched and scientific. Duper has been robbed!
LOL. If anyone's information or research is flawed, it is yours.
School is open!
1. The 40 does not measure how fast these guys run. It only measures quickness and partial acceleration because they do not reach maximum velocity til about 50m out. They are still accelerating at the 40yd mark. So the 40 cannot possibly determine who runs the fastest when they aren't even running their fastest. Lat time I checked, top speed was part of how fast you run.
2. This video used the 100m dash to determine who ran the fastest. The 100m decides who is the fastest on planet earth.
3. Duper's best 100m is 10.21 not 10.11. I do not know where you got your incorrect information from. I got my information from the World Athletics (formally the IAAF) web site. This is where all times go to be ratified. www.worldathletics.org/athletes/united-states/mark-duper-014346543
4. Even if Duper did run 10.11 he STILL would not be in the top 10. The slowest time in the top10 is 10.10. Comprende?
5. Did you even watch the video?
6. Next time you try and come at someone in the comment section, please make sure your information is correct, and try not to sound like such a jerk.
You are dismissed.
LMAO!!!
Why not make a video on who had the nicest hairdo of them all and get Vidal Sassoon to chime in just to make it appear scientific?
Look, Flebowsky, it's really quaint that you've unilaterally decided what criteria qualifies someone as belonging in the NFL fastest ever category, but it seems that no less than the NFL disagrees with your methodology. They DON'T consider the 100M and rely solely on the 40-yard dash. I realize that they're just the NFL (what do they know, anyway?!). However, if you were approaching this open-mindedly and being intellectually honest, you would - at minimum- create an algorithm that considers both measurements of speed and blend the two to arrive at a really honest final tabulation. And if you did, you would undoubtedly have to include Mark Duper in your confirmation bias measurements. Oh, and no mention of Joe Delaney either? He was nearly as fast as Duper - faster than Cliff Branch, for sure - and deserved better than no mention.
Lastly, I know Mark Duper and my recitation of his stats are spot-on. There's been a typo somewhere. Now, come down off of your high 🐎 horse and acknowledge your sins. Duper belongs on any Top-10 NFL speed list. Consider yourself thoroughly and completely rebuked. Fare thee well!
@@pathurley3581 @Pat Hurley Lol. Do you know what Delusions of Grandeur is? You should, because you are suffering from a big bout with it.
1. The 40 is not designed to measure how fast player's run. It was invented to see how quickly special teams could cover a punt. If you knew your NFL history you would have known that. Also the 40 was hand timed up until 1998. In 1999 the combine switched to semi automatic timing. But the 40 is STILL started by hand.
2. This is my video and this is the way I wanted it done. If you want a video that combines a real race and a special teams test, then go do so.
3. Who says the NFL relies solely on the 40? You? LOL. If the NFL relied solely on the 40 then Why doesn't Bob Hayes, Jim Hines, Ron Brown, Willie Gault, Curtis Dickie, Sam Graddy, and several others have no NFL 40 times? I'll tell you why. Because they knew from their 100m times they were fast and did not need a 40 time.
4. BTW this video is not about football speed, which the 40 is related to. It's about who ran the FASTEST. Something only the 100m can decide and the 40 cannot. Where do you run the fastest? on the track or on the turf? On the track of course. Fastest. Not a test on turf where your speed is restricted. LOL.
5. Again Duper's 100m time is 10.21 not 10.11. And neither makes the top 10. It's very simple. I did some digging and found the Duper's 40 was 4.28. Hmmm. www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1984/08/30/dolphins-big-catch-duper-from-marino/1a8804cd-3b17-4b72-92cb-94b79cd678ab/ Twould seem that your 40 time for Duper is also incorrect. 4.28 not 4.25 as you obnoxiously said earlier. Looks like Duper is not in the top 10 in either the 100m or the 40. According to Grid Iron Studs, Duper's 4.28 would rank him outside the top 35. www.gridironstuds.com/blog/the-fastest-40-yard-dash-ever/ LOL!!
6. Joe Delaney, faster than Branch? What are you smoking? Branch was a world class sprinter. Delaney was not. Delaney has a reported 4.4 in the 40 and has a 10.45 100m. Compared to Branch who ran a reported 4.17 40 and 10.00h 100m. Stop it.
Joe's reported 4.4 40 www.csmonitor.com/1982/1209/120937.html
Branch's reported 4.17 visual.ly/community/Infographics/sports/11-fastest-players-nfl-history
7. You said, "Now, come down off of your high 🐎 horse and acknowledge your sins. Duper belongs on any Top-10 NFL speed list. Consider yourself thoroughly and completely rebuked".
LMAO!!! You come with incorrect information for a guy who wouldn't make the top 10 even if your information was correct. Lol. You bring up and even slower guy and thing he should be mentioned in the top 10. LOL!! Then you want to act like you did something LOL!! Dude, you are indeed funny. When you want to refute some one's findings you have to come with the correct information and you have to come with proof to back your information. You've done neither. Good day.
As I said, Sherlock, errors or reporting errors where Mark Duper's official times are concerned have been made on your part, or those reported are correct but not the only fact present. To wit the Washington Post article.... it IS correct. However, that was a time clocked while playing football and running track at college. At the 1982/83 NFL Combine, Mark Duper ran a 4.25 second 40-yard dash. This time trumped his previous best of 4.28 which the Post inexplicably reported as the official best. It was not. Now, you can dismiss the importance of the 40-yard dash until the cows come home but this doesn't diminish it at all as a key matrix in evaluating speed for potential NFL players. Indeed, your fixation on the 100M is as arbitrary and irrelevant as any other single measurement of speed, taken in isolation from all others. Why not measure a player's speed in the 5-mile sprint or how about judging who's the fastest after 4-quarters of football? Or, better,, how about measuring speed in pads and with football cleats on?? I can slice and dice this with you all week. See? I can invent all kinds of fanciful nonsense measurements which amounts to subjective garbage just like you did. Bottom line, Lebowsky, you'd gain a lot more credibility and a lot less incredulous laughter if you would revisit your formulary and at least attempt an amalgamation of speed measurements (short and long distance), average them, and then rethink your profoundly flawed list while sober. Lastly, Joe Delaney is spitting in your face from the grave for that slight and the intentional mangling of his records. Cliff Branch! Pfffffffffft!
Oh, one more thing that matters little to anyone with tunnel vision...... Mark Duper raced against Carl Lewis (yeah, THAT Carl Lewis) in an NCAA track meet in college while Lewis was running for the Univ. of Houston, AND MARK DUPER BEAT HIM. Yes, that was a mic drop moment, Lebowsky. And, yes, that just happened.
Hahahahaha total joke!!!
What is a total joke?
Complete and total joke
@@christophertracy2807Please explain, what is a joke and how it is a joke.