I managed to survive the first attack on a random playthrough in custom game, couldn't care less about trying it out since I wasn't ready but I'm pretty sure it was because of the accessory that makes any attack that ends in a 4 deal 4 damage only.
The only logical reason why he kidnap Natalie if he is beaten is he drank coffee before his death, also giving coffee to his tank and reviving it, and quickly kidnapped Natalie as they were cheering for their victory and weren't noticing his revival.
I don't think that works. This encounter always scales to the party's level, so...the only legitimate way to survive the first hit MIGHT be with the Pixel Glasses (only legitimately available by this point if you luck out with Random Equipment). *If* the wearer can even live to take a turn...
@@steam-powereddolphin5449 Well no not the pixel glasses, only the tetris piece, because you die at the start of your next turn if you have 0hp left due to the pixel glasses.
@@jukesdtj656 I forgot about that piece. Granted, it *could* take several attempts since the activation chance is, what, 10%? Assuming that Neon Valkyrie doesn't use that attack more than once...
It just means you cheated lol. At that point no single party member has high enough evade to dodge the Neon Valkyrie's ramming attack since it's acc is multiplied by 100
@@nicholasfly5914 it's literally impossible to dodge it in the first encounter because of the accuracy formula, outside of extremely high newgame+ (by way of steroids). the modifier neon valkyrie gets in the first battle is 100x to it's offensive stats, including accuracy- an attack is guaranteed to land if it's accuracy exceeds your evade, which valkyrie's ram does due to that modifier- in other words, you're lying. there IS an extremely rare bug in which the multiplier is applied incorrectly, and THAT can lead to it failing to kill the entire party, but you specifically mentioned dodging it, which isn't possible.
My favourite boss theme has always been the funny tank. Best character in the game for sure. Oh, lance? He can piss off. I want more Neon Valkyrie screentime.
Managed to pull this off in new game+, giving matt the shades and the rest wearing soldier gear. Just stood there waiting for a random medipack and tada I'm alive. Then the rest was just maintaining morale and just slamming attacks. There should've been a medal for this like in remastered CODMW.
Kind of a letdown that there wasn't some kind of Easter egg or something. Even Chrono Cross plays a different cutscene if you lose the "supposed to lose" fight about 1/3 of the way through the game before proceeding as normal.
Haha I get the joke at the end cuz you would have thought that it would acknowledged that you beat Lance's tank first try. But either way I guess that's supposed to happen that's how it was programmed so I guess that makes sense
I wonder what would happen if you "spared" lance during this encounter? Will the Natalie rescue happen or will the game skip to getting lance to the party
I actually won it without any cheats or anything lmao i just spammed auto revive and my teammates kept getting full limit break so i just cycle nats limit break + nolegs 9 lives and it was cake walk lol i was surprised that u weren't supposed to beat it lmao 😂
@@limelover1316 hello I don't really remember much of what I did cause I did it in the heat of the moment and beat it first try but I think I used a auto revive ability and keep cycling Ults it's been a long time since I played this game sorry!
@@limelover1316 there's an extremely rare bug where the modifier doesn't apply correctly when the battle starts, so you're able to take one turn before it's correctly activated. if you use genesis on that first turn, you'll get it back every turn because of the huge damage, and thus you'll have literally no problem destroying valkyrie with cleaver/genesis/creator spam
my head canon for this scene is that they got knocked out cold and it was just a part of Matt's dream that they defeated Lance.
lol
Neon Valkriye: *Gets destroyed and blown up*
Lance: ._. *doesn't give a crap about it*
He is frozen in shock
He has spares.
@@solar901 true.
I one of his limits, he drops 1 of his tanks down, shoots it multiple times, and blows it up.
so It makes sense that he's unfazed
*Then later when the Neon Valkyrie gets destroyed again*
Lance: NEON VALKYRIE! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You killed her!
@@aqua3234 Ignore the fact that I have like 20 more in the storage warehouse!
Lance: You feel for it fool! THUNDER CROSS SPLIT ATTACK!
This is underrated and needs more attention. I've been thinking about this idea and I'm glad I have the answer now.
That a lot of L A G
2:03 his fucking face right now is like: "OOOH, SHIT...."
I managed to survive the first attack on a random playthrough in custom game, couldn't care less about trying it out since I wasn't ready but I'm pretty sure it was because of the accessory that makes any attack that ends in a 4 deal 4 damage only.
actually quite handy to pre-scan all of them and not worry about scanning them later
The same happened to me yesterday, still can't beat him tho.
I managed to win this fight with that tetris-like badge. It was really good feeling.
The only logical reason why he kidnap Natalie if he is beaten is he drank coffee before his death, also giving coffee to his tank and reviving it, and quickly kidnapped Natalie as they were cheering for their victory and weren't noticing his revival.
how can you revive a tank?is not a life form
@@joaquincespedes3073 Put Coffee into his tank engine.
@@OverSteami’m just imagining him pouring it in while the boss theme plays
2:05
lancer: oh shit
Congrats,comrade.
You did break the rules. And you're gonna pay for it.
You can do it legitimately by abusing Genesis and nine lives.
and a lot of Exp grinding
I don't think that works. This encounter always scales to the party's level, so...the only legitimate way to survive the first hit MIGHT be with the Pixel Glasses (only legitimately available by this point if you luck out with Random Equipment). *If* the wearer can even live to take a turn...
ive done this legit
@@steam-powereddolphin5449 Well no not the pixel glasses, only the tetris piece, because you die at the start of your next turn if you have 0hp left due to the pixel glasses.
@@jukesdtj656 I forgot about that piece. Granted, it *could* take several attempts since the activation chance is, what, 10%? Assuming that Neon Valkyrie doesn't use that attack more than once...
I learned that this thing was meant to instakill the party only in my second playthrough.
*Literally everyone dodged the tank. On first try.*
It just means you cheated lol. At that point no single party member has high enough evade to dodge the Neon Valkyrie's ramming attack since it's acc is multiplied by 100
@@hoanganphanle NG+
@@nicholasfly5914 "On first try".
Nice try hiding it
@@hoanganphanle Then i don't know what to bring up except for "Dream luck".
@@nicholasfly5914 it's literally impossible to dodge it in the first encounter because of the accuracy formula, outside of extremely high newgame+ (by way of steroids). the modifier neon valkyrie gets in the first battle is 100x to it's offensive stats, including accuracy- an attack is guaranteed to land if it's accuracy exceeds your evade, which valkyrie's ram does due to that modifier- in other words, you're lying.
there IS an extremely rare bug in which the multiplier is applied incorrectly, and THAT can lead to it failing to kill the entire party, but you specifically mentioned dodging it, which isn't possible.
Dude your dps and image quality.
Lance doesn’t die, because you don’t need to tell him he is the prettiest unicorn here.
My favourite boss theme has always been the funny tank. Best character in the game for sure. Oh, lance? He can piss off. I want more Neon Valkyrie screentime.
It still like normal bc the dev dont think of this
Lance: *Defeated*
Natalie: f*ck you Matt, Lance is more handsome
But what happen if you beat god cat in the first 3 turns in EBF4?
The Game Freeze.
The cat forms don't have a death animation, so the game just softlocks if you kill them.
i love this game and their lore
*Shall we let our cat rearrange your face?*
In an alternate universe, Lance tries to shoot the team instead. Due to EBF Logic, the team survives, and...
THE CREATOR HAS AWOKEN!
I wonder if you can make him surrender on his first encounter
Managed to pull this off in new game+, giving matt the shades and the rest wearing soldier gear. Just stood there waiting for a random medipack and tada I'm alive. Then the rest was just maintaining morale and just slamming attacks. There should've been a medal for this like in remastered CODMW.
what would happen if you went into newgame plus and used tetronomino, and maybe cool shades to do legit?
Kind of a letdown that there wasn't some kind of Easter egg or something. Even Chrono Cross plays a different cutscene if you lose the "supposed to lose" fight about 1/3 of the way through the game before proceeding as normal.
At one point there was a glitch that let you survive the tank attack
omg yes thank you
Haha I get the joke at the end cuz you would have thought that it would acknowledged that you beat Lance's tank first try. But either way I guess that's supposed to happen that's how it was programmed so I guess that makes sense
I wonder what would happen if you "spared" lance during this encounter? Will the Natalie rescue happen or will the game skip to getting lance to the party
BUGS
tank
I actually won it without any cheats or anything lmao i just spammed auto revive and my teammates kept getting full limit break so i just cycle nats limit break + nolegs 9 lives and it was cake walk lol i was surprised that u weren't supposed to beat it lmao 😂
How did you survive initial hit?
@@limelover1316 hello I don't really remember much of what I did cause I did it in the heat of the moment and beat it first try but I think I used a auto revive ability and keep cycling Ults it's been a long time since I played this game sorry!
@@limelover1316 there's an extremely rare bug where the modifier doesn't apply correctly when the battle starts, so you're able to take one turn before it's correctly activated. if you use genesis on that first turn, you'll get it back every turn because of the huge damage, and thus you'll have literally no problem destroying valkyrie with cleaver/genesis/creator spam
how the heck do you have your stats that high already?
how'd ya get inf hp
Why is your game so laggy
its cuz of cheats