Intrigued by Don's tracking suggestion? For more on the point about using a journal to develop your skills with the Memory Palace technique, check out Johannes Mallow's' amazing tips next: ruclips.net/video/3dbGaCvj9yU/видео.html
I may have gone a bit overboard in my memory palaces. London Taxi drivers have to learn what’s called The Knowledge. It’s a 6 mile circle of London streets, museums, statues, et al. So I decided to take those 320 runs, statues, museums, etc along with filming locations of Midsomer Murders, Sherlock Holmes Locations, and a few other places and using a notebook of graph paper, colored pencils, Print-outs from google earth at full screen and high res to make a notebook for memory palaces. There are a lot of KML files for Google Earth that already exist for these. Each stop, or turn along the way, I turn into a memory palace with anywhere from 10 stations to 25 stations. Each route has about at least 25 stops, unless a museum, blue plaque, place of significant interest, etc is there which can become another memory palace within the memory palace. They’re not as time consuming to make as you might think. Usually I learn to call the run first and then pick the places to capture. This with using Bruno’s wheel method for People-Object, Action, Fantastical Bestiary, provides a lot of options. It goes quicker the more I practice. So I can make about 3 a week. I’m not sure I’ll make them for all 320 runs, but I always have fodder to make a new palace that I enjoy walking through.
You’ve explained it correctly. The earlier version of the Shadow System had actual “shadows” as you’ve mentioned, ketchup and mustard, etc. However, Johannes Mallow contributed the “block-method” where a card pair can have different images based upon its location in the palace which significantly reduced the overall number of images one had to create in contrast to the traditional 2 Card System. Lance Tschirhart further developed the system by modifying the phonetics in certain number ranges to make to process of creating 3 digit images easier.
Wonderful. Many thanks! I think it's the block part of it that I never quite understood when Braden was explaining it and I didn't know came from Johannes. This sounds very interesting, and I look forward to digging more into what about their stations they're using to contribute to how the images work. It seems like I do something like this either beforehand or after the fact. For example, with the memdeck I was talking about in this episode, it's better to layer the 00-99 number images on after the deck is established in memory. Because it's a permanent stack for magic purposes, if I have the stations numbered first, I have to stick with that. But for cards (and speeches) I prefer to have things loose. There are some pillars where I have 4 cards, some 6, etc. a freedom I just don't have if the stations are pre-numbered. But when I do use pre-numbered stations, that always creates the opportunity to have the 00-99 images interact with or help generate interactions that can be useful. Do you use any Shadow variations yourself?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM You’re welcome, anytime. Oh ok, neat. I currently use PAO for Cards, however, I have a 3 digit system and images for the Shadow System, but I have not mastered them all. But eventually I’d like to invest more time into incorporating a larger system in a couple of years from now.
Very cool. For myself, I'm just wondering what makes sense from a non-competitive angle. Since my interpretation of the Shadow isn't as far off as I thought and I don't have competition goals, I'm thinking of sticking with the 00-99 which I combine with a secondary 0-9 for hanging integers. In other words, if the number is is 929, then 92 comes from the 00-99 and the additional 9 is an upside golf club. If it's 92951, then the first 4 numbers take 2 images from the 00-99 and the fifth would be a candle from the traditional 0-9. Since my multiple "stay stack" memdeck project basically winds up looking something like card identity + number in the stack, to Shadow it is pretty much an unnecessary step. All the more so because the Memory Palaces are different and used to establish long term retention/recall. I don't even think a Shadow version would work. If 9D is 29 in stack A and 31 in stack B, then it's not really an opposite unless I think of the decks consecutively or somehow arrange the positionality so the first card in the second stay stack is not a new 1, but 53, continuing on from stack A. But that would mess with the easier mathematical calculations needed for estimation cuts and spelling tricks, which are some each easier to do when each deck is 1-52.
Yes, and that's why I use the Major. Its logic allows for all kinds of variations of the core images a lot more easier than say the Dominic. What I don't see is how the Ben variation would add anything to my personal non-competitive practice given the relatively few instances of 3 and 5 digit numbers I need to memorize. Dates, for example, are almost always in even sets, and all the more so because I don't tend to see May 5/7 as 57, but 05/07. Add the year and we're still in an even set. But thanks for mentioning the Ben System in this context. Sadly, we have yet to find a time to have him on the MMM Podcast, but maybe one day soon!
I believe there were some things floating around from Gareyev and others about mnemonics for chess. I've heard speculation that these things were tidied up due to the fact that discussing mnemonics is like giving up your edge. Of course, mnemonics and other aspects of memory training are only part of what help in chess. This ship is floating in other directions topically, but everything will help chess players directionally.
Thanks for your question. It depends on a number of factors: Nature of your goal, nature of the information, level of your skill, etc. In a speech like my TEDx Talk, I sometimes had up to 17 words per station. But the average was 8-10.
Thanks for checking this one out! Here’s where Braden and I were talking about it: ruclips.net/video/VIO1Zg03akk/видео.html I’ll have to review it too if my misunderstood variation doesn’t work out.
I know that situation of having to choose between speed and quality. We have a famous quote that says "this is the age of speed" and the reason is machine controlled the world. For example in agriculture people prefer higher quantity of wheat than more healthy one so starvation decreases and people do not harm national security by throwing food in rubbish also in economy based on supply and demand theory the higher the quantity the lower the price so people can live longer in a more comfortable life but the cons is people need to work so hard and they get several diseases when they get old. Also one of the techniques I use to memorize numbers is lists of 10 colors - animals - verbs - objects so in total I have to memorize 40 items to be able to memorize any 4 numbers. It goes like this color + subject (animal) + verb + object. Besides I can get anomalous sentences like "blue ant is eating a fridge" which is funny and weird and that makes remembering the number easier. Also I hate those efficiency and effectiveness issues but I liked that idea of doing calculations and shuffling decks of cards
Very cool how you’re using colors like that. One elaboration I use for colors is to associate them with something, i.e. blue always involves The Blues Brothers somehow, green the witch in The Wizard of Oz, etc.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM white for me represents emptiness like empty paper or empty room. So it is color number 0 And colors from 1 to 7 are rainbow colors 1 - red is the first rainbow color 2 - orange is the second rainbow color 3 - yellow is the third rainbow color 4 - green is the forth rainbow color 5 - blue is the fifth rainbow color 6 - indigo is the sixth rainbow color 7 - purple is the seventh rainbow color Even further 1 - red 2 - orange It is easy to remember that but third and later rainbow colors are hard to remember so I do this 3 - the word lemon has 3 consonants and it is yellow 4 - the irish luck plant has 4 petals and it is green 5 - is bright version of color 6 6 - Israel flag has six edges star and it is indigo (it is blue but it works anyway) 7 - pharaohs loved number seven and considered it lucky number and they were rich and in their time color purple was so expansive because they needed too many rare purple snails to create 1 gram of it but it is affordable for them 8 - gray 9 - black 0 and 8 and 9 are in order. White and then gray and then black. Also number 9 is the highest number and the space is black I even created colors for hexadecimal numbers because I need them for computer science which is my field. And they are simply different versions of rainbow colors A - pink (different version of red) B - brown (different version of orange) C - Amber (different version of yellow) D - lime (different version of green) E - Cyan (different version of blue) F - magenta (different version of purple) . Also I struggled alot to master them because colors - shapes - lines - points are the most abstract things in universe because they are the "building bricks" of everything in the universe on the other hand they are the easiest to associate with other things like saying blue sky blue car blue crow even if all the crows are black you can also say blue version of pink panther and so on
Partly an experiment, partly self-ironization, partly to comment on the growing global impatience with educators who would really rather not be forced to be “entertainers”… 🤪
Intrigued by Don's tracking suggestion?
For more on the point about using a journal to develop your skills with the Memory Palace technique, check out Johannes Mallow's' amazing tips next:
ruclips.net/video/3dbGaCvj9yU/видео.html
Thanks as always for the great conversations, Anthony. And as an avid Making Sense listener, that Sam clip made my day!
Thanks so much for checking this one out and glad the "Samsei" clip worked. I'll probably have to do that every time I add some "housekeeping..." ;-)
I may have gone a bit overboard in my memory palaces. London Taxi drivers have to learn what’s called The Knowledge. It’s a 6 mile circle of London streets, museums, statues, et al. So I decided to take those 320 runs, statues, museums, etc along with filming locations of Midsomer Murders, Sherlock Holmes Locations, and a few other places and using a notebook of graph paper, colored pencils, Print-outs from google earth at full screen and high res to make a notebook for memory palaces. There are a lot of KML files for Google Earth that already exist for these. Each stop, or turn along the way, I turn into a memory palace with anywhere from 10 stations to 25 stations. Each route has about at least 25 stops, unless a museum, blue plaque, place of significant interest, etc is there which can become another memory palace within the memory palace. They’re not as time consuming to make as you might think. Usually I learn to call the run first and then pick the places to capture. This with using Bruno’s wheel method for People-Object, Action, Fantastical Bestiary, provides a lot of options. It goes quicker the more I practice. So I can make about 3 a week. I’m not sure I’ll make them for all 320 runs, but I always have fodder to make a new palace that I enjoy walking through.
Wonderful!
The great thing about going overboard is that you can always scale back.
But ramping up later is much harder, so bravo.
Wow your level of prep is impressive!!
You’ve explained it correctly. The earlier version of the Shadow System had actual “shadows” as you’ve mentioned, ketchup and mustard, etc. However, Johannes Mallow contributed the “block-method” where a card pair can have different images based upon its location in the palace which significantly reduced the overall number of images one had to create in contrast to the traditional 2 Card System. Lance Tschirhart further developed the system by modifying the phonetics in certain number ranges to make to process of creating 3 digit images easier.
Wonderful. Many thanks!
I think it's the block part of it that I never quite understood when Braden was explaining it and I didn't know came from Johannes.
This sounds very interesting, and I look forward to digging more into what about their stations they're using to contribute to how the images work.
It seems like I do something like this either beforehand or after the fact. For example, with the memdeck I was talking about in this episode, it's better to layer the 00-99 number images on after the deck is established in memory.
Because it's a permanent stack for magic purposes, if I have the stations numbered first, I have to stick with that. But for cards (and speeches) I prefer to have things loose. There are some pillars where I have 4 cards, some 6, etc. a freedom I just don't have if the stations are pre-numbered.
But when I do use pre-numbered stations, that always creates the opportunity to have the 00-99 images interact with or help generate interactions that can be useful.
Do you use any Shadow variations yourself?
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM You’re welcome, anytime. Oh ok, neat. I currently use PAO for Cards, however, I have a 3 digit system and images for the Shadow System, but I have not mastered them all. But eventually I’d like to invest more time into incorporating a larger system in a couple of years from now.
Very cool.
For myself, I'm just wondering what makes sense from a non-competitive angle.
Since my interpretation of the Shadow isn't as far off as I thought and I don't have competition goals, I'm thinking of sticking with the 00-99 which I combine with a secondary 0-9 for hanging integers.
In other words, if the number is is 929, then 92 comes from the 00-99 and the additional 9 is an upside golf club. If it's 92951, then the first 4 numbers take 2 images from the 00-99 and the fifth would be a candle from the traditional 0-9.
Since my multiple "stay stack" memdeck project basically winds up looking something like card identity + number in the stack, to Shadow it is pretty much an unnecessary step. All the more so because the Memory Palaces are different and used to establish long term retention/recall.
I don't even think a Shadow version would work. If 9D is 29 in stack A and 31 in stack B, then it's not really an opposite unless I think of the decks consecutively or somehow arrange the positionality so the first card in the second stay stack is not a new 1, but 53, continuing on from stack A. But that would mess with the easier mathematical calculations needed for estimation cuts and spelling tricks, which are some each easier to do when each deck is 1-52.
Yes, and that's why I use the Major. Its logic allows for all kinds of variations of the core images a lot more easier than say the Dominic.
What I don't see is how the Ben variation would add anything to my personal non-competitive practice given the relatively few instances of 3 and 5 digit numbers I need to memorize.
Dates, for example, are almost always in even sets, and all the more so because I don't tend to see May 5/7 as 57, but 05/07. Add the year and we're still in an even set.
But thanks for mentioning the Ben System in this context. Sadly, we have yet to find a time to have him on the MMM Podcast, but maybe one day soon!
I believe there were some things floating around from Gareyev and others about mnemonics for chess. I've heard speculation that these things were tidied up due to the fact that discussing mnemonics is like giving up your edge.
Of course, mnemonics and other aspects of memory training are only part of what help in chess. This ship is floating in other directions topically, but everything will help chess players directionally.
Great work as always.
🙏
sir..!... how many objects can we put on single location of mind palace for a huge assignment?
Thanks for your question.
It depends on a number of factors:
Nature of your goal, nature of the information, level of your skill, etc.
In a speech like my TEDx Talk, I sometimes had up to 17 words per station. But the average was 8-10.
ok..thankyou so much sir..god bless you
Good morning Anthony. Thank you for the video.
Can you point me where I could learn about the Shadow technique? Curious about how it works
Thanks for checking this one out!
Here’s where Braden and I were talking about it:
ruclips.net/video/VIO1Zg03akk/видео.html
I’ll have to review it too if my misunderstood variation doesn’t work out.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM Thank you Anthony for the quick response. Gonna check this one right away.
Hope you have a great day!
You too!
I know that situation of having to choose between speed and quality. We have a famous quote that says "this is the age of speed" and the reason is machine controlled the world. For example in agriculture people prefer higher quantity of wheat than more healthy one so starvation decreases and people do not harm national security by throwing food in rubbish also in economy based on supply and demand theory the higher the quantity the lower the price so people can live longer in a more comfortable life but the cons is people need to work so hard and they get several diseases when they get old.
Also one of the techniques I use to memorize numbers is lists of 10 colors - animals - verbs - objects so in total I have to memorize 40 items to be able to memorize any 4 numbers. It goes like this color + subject (animal) + verb + object. Besides I can get anomalous sentences like "blue ant is eating a fridge" which is funny and weird and that makes remembering the number easier.
Also I hate those efficiency and effectiveness issues but I liked that idea of doing calculations and shuffling decks of cards
Very cool how you’re using colors like that.
One elaboration I use for colors is to associate them with something, i.e. blue always involves The Blues Brothers somehow, green the witch in The Wizard of Oz, etc.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM white for me represents emptiness like empty paper or empty room. So it is color number 0
And colors from 1 to 7 are rainbow colors
1 - red is the first rainbow color
2 - orange is the second rainbow color
3 - yellow is the third rainbow color
4 - green is the forth rainbow color
5 - blue is the fifth rainbow color
6 - indigo is the sixth rainbow color
7 - purple is the seventh rainbow color
Even further
1 - red
2 - orange
It is easy to remember that but third and later rainbow colors are hard to remember so I do this
3 - the word lemon has 3 consonants and it is yellow
4 - the irish luck plant has 4 petals and it is green
5 - is bright version of color 6
6 - Israel flag has six edges star and it is indigo (it is blue but it works anyway)
7 - pharaohs loved number seven and considered it lucky number and they were rich and in their time color purple was so expansive because they needed too many rare purple snails to create 1 gram of it but it is affordable for them
8 - gray
9 - black
0 and 8 and 9 are in order. White and then gray and then black. Also number 9 is the highest number and the space is black
I even created colors for hexadecimal numbers because I need them for computer science which is my field. And they are simply different versions of rainbow colors
A - pink (different version of red)
B - brown (different version of orange)
C - Amber (different version of yellow)
D - lime (different version of green)
E - Cyan (different version of blue)
F - magenta (different version of purple)
.
Also I struggled alot to master them because colors - shapes - lines - points are the most abstract things in universe because they are the "building bricks" of everything in the universe on the other hand they are the easiest to associate with other things like saying blue sky blue car blue crow even if all the crows are black you can also say blue version of pink panther and so on
That's an interesting paradox, right?
Points in space are both the most abstract things and the most concrete.
@@AnthonyMetivierMMM yes it is
explain the chess memory palace sir
Here’s what I do:
ruclips.net/video/eL_DrM7eQTo/видео.html
You’ll have to read the book for that author’s book for his suggestions. 🙏
I want to have a great memory so I get the best grades in my class.
👍
The Sam Harris clips though...😂
Partly an experiment, partly self-ironization, partly to comment on the growing global impatience with educators who would really rather not be forced to be “entertainers”… 🤪