How To Get A Fat Snare Sound - Drum Lesson (Drumeo)
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Planning to play a ballad or maybe some disco beats? You're going to want a deep snare sound, and luckily Jimmy Rainsford is here to provide you with a simple trick to getting a low end, fat sound on demand. No specific drum heads required!
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Came for the snare sound,stayed for that phat delicious bass drum sound
Ooo so true😉
Yeah. The snare just sounds synthetic. But that basss aww man c:
Is there way to get that same bass sound on a peavey international series II set?
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I stupidly lost my login password. I appreciate any tips you can give me!
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Cranking up the bottom head is good. I do this on my snaredrums aswell and i get a nice crack and tone out of every snaredrum.
But i like to tune the tophead the traditional way. Match the pitch on every lock and your snare will sound amazing.
You can tune your tophead low or high and will always get a good sound. Just make sure your snarewires are not too tight because you could kill the sound of your bottomhead and loose a lot of low end and fatness .
Thats all
1:45 How to warp your drum 101
This helped me out so much! I looked all over RUclips for something like this so I definitely recommend this.
best snare tuning tutorial ive ever seen hands down
1st:
USE A BIGGER SNARE DRUM.
Great tip, that really does work. That kick sounds beast!
Jimmy!! I started watching him 10 years ago, then he disappeared from RUclips! This is a wonderful surprise, glad he's doing good!
To anyone saying this could damage the rim, I would say do this before a show or recording, and then even it back out afterwards. It shouldn't do any damage as long as you switch it back to normal afterwards.
You can achieve a similar sound by placing an old skin on top of the snare head upside down. I saw Larnell Lewis do it when he played Jambone with Snarky puppy. depending on the skin you use, it gives a bit of a different sound. When I try it on my own snare it sounds more like the old school snare sound like in Superstition by Stevie Wonder
Larnell is life
Tip: if you are worried about your hoops, you can do the same thing by bringing the tension really low and putting a moongel on that sucker.
HECK YES!!!! DEFINITELY THE SOUND I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR!!!!
Sounds beautiful!! Awesome tipThanks!!
Show us how you got that huge kick drum sound in the next video!
Yeah, other than that it was miked and probably tuned to sound fat through the pa board, I did love that sound. Would like to know just how he tuned it as well.
the drums are tuned really well which is a good start.
Too many people stuff kick drums with far too much padding to try and remedy that boomy sound and end up with a really tight punchy drum with no real sub content. I like both front and back skins tuned fairly low, and then just enough padding to dampen the front and back skins down.
Using a boundary mic inside helps get the tight punchy sound with attack and then a mic outside to get the air moving ( they may have used a yamaha sub kick which is a speaker mounted inside a drum shell)
there will be a decent amount of processing going on aswell to get the low end controlled.
Maybe some parallel processing, doesnt sound like any gating but there will probably be compression atleast.
And i wouldnt be surprised if theres a chain of eq;s and compressors.
Mic?
@@dangodoffire for boundary mics that sit on the inside for clear punch you’re looking at shure beta 91 or sennheiser e901 (Behringer BA91a if you’re on a lower budget). For outside mics (in or around the kick sound hole) for that boomy low end it’s the AKG D112 or Audix D6 or sennheiser e602 or shure beta 52 (shure pga 52 if on a budget). Or you can go for the Yamaha sub kick.
Awesome! Love the tone tips, more please. :)
Thanks always wonder how it was done cause I like it that way great video !!!
Hi there! First things first,thanks for spending some time to put the video together. Nice tip but in my opinion if you really wanna get a big snare sound regardless the studio process you just get a 6,5 or 7or8. Back in the 80's from pop,rock,fusion even the jazz greats had a big snare sound,all the major producers and engineers used to ask from the drummers to get a deep snare drum to get the appropriate sound for the recording/production. Many thanks again for keeping us all updated with all the great and useful videos!
That's not necessarily true, speaking from my own experience. I have a couple of 5" snare drums, and a 6.5" Pearl free floating snare drum. That Pearl drum is higher pitched, even if I turn the thing really low. It just has a huge, trebly crack no matter what. Which I love, but still ...
That kick is beatiful. Wow
That sounds really good
I was gonna do that with my snares but changed my mind at the end. not good.
*good
thats what he typed
Joel Goodo that's*
great video! thanks for the tip!
Grat Tip Jimmy!!
i tune the bottom head very tight. but i have had problems with broken heads during gigs so you have to just ease off slightly on the snare head to prevent this happening.
Thank you for this video!!
Great trick! Im using it for years'
cool trick I never thought of that
I also you another version of this trick. I tune the upper screws up sort of complementary to the ones tunded down. Also I the screws pointing to you just so high that i don't get wrinkles. If you tune these up quite some more, you can get an awsome Ska- or Funk-Sound. Never forget to bring the overtone controlling screws (the ones pointing towards you) to a sort of normal level after playing
Ah hah!, there's that John Mayer Vultures snare sound, loving it!!! Great tip!
nice exactly what i was looking for from a snare sound! Id like to hear how you tuned that bass drum, it sounds great as well
God what an awesome tip man!! Thanks!
How dare you body shame my snare sound #allbodytypesmatter
😂👌🏼
lol yea this video is racist!!
+mantzini do you even know what racist means?
+arquin vicedo that was a part of the joke.
Black snares matter!
Excellent!
Good job bro
Your bass drum is soooooo nice
That is a phat kick drum
This went over peoples head lol. This "fat" sound is more associated with pop, country pop and hip hop/ rnb. Its not meant to replicate a deep snare or vintage brass for example. You definitely wouldn't do this for rock. For those who think this damages the hoops, you need to think about that some more. When you tighten the lugs evenly all together and than release tension, it is dispersing the tension naturally. What is damaging is when noobs start loose and only tighten one side. You will bend the hoop down and to the side. You think it sounds subtle but after serious playing doing it tight first makes a difference. After all, almost any drummer who is a seasoned session player will tell you how to tune your snare numerous ways to get different sounds. This isnt something you do permanent, and thats why it wont damage your snare. Its a f*cking sound and different snares respond differently. Who knew we had so many drum pros watching Drumeo tutorials lol.
PS: Try a hydraulic head
Joe Peffer i say the same thing...get a BigFatSnareSound head or Hydraulic heads for low volume gigs...you can break or damage the hoops/edges by doing that...Moon Gel helps too, one at 2 o’clock and one at 10 o’clock that’s it...
I use pearl reference snare 14x6.5, can i have that big and fat sound? Because of the specs? I am planning to change my drumhead with Evans Hydraulic Black.
My bottom snare use evans hz300 and puresound steel for the wire
I think the drum sounded better before de-tuning it. Furthermore, it is easier to get the "fat, low" sound out of a drum without messing with the tuning. I took a 0-ring, taped 3 sheets of paper to it, and set it next to me at a gig. (In a pinch, you could just set a set list on top of your snare without the 0-ring, but the 0-ring keeps it from sliding off the drum.) I can play something funky with a lively, wide open snare sound, like a Rolling Stones or RHCP cover (my snare drum is a Chad Smith Signature snare); then within 5 seconds I can convert my snare drum over to play a Pink Floyd or Fleetwood Mac cover, simply by putting my 0-ring on top of the drum. You only need to bring one snare drum to a gig, and you have two very distinct sounds! I carry it around in my cymbal bag so I have it at every gig.
Nice!
I just learned this it's so gewd
Great snare sound. To tip..!!!
i finally got a good snare sound doing this but will having 3 lugs loose on the batter head wear out my snare drum quicker?
Hey Drumeo, I was just wondering what mics you use for your kit? I am going to buy some mics and start recording soon, I like the mics you use.
Yeah I really want warped hoops
This is essentially the Masshoff method; guy is a tenuous, makes some KILLER metal drums as well; steel, copper, ect. Full kits as well as snares
No matter what I do, even if I get the perfect snare sound that I want, the snare wires always jiggle for too long after i hit the snare and it makes it very annoying. I have a moongel pretty much right next to the center of the drum on both the batter and resonant heads but it still doesnt stop. can somebody help with my snare wires?
1. Make sure the snare wires themselves sit straight and flat. Puresound makes great upgrades for just $20 in many varieties and sizes.
2. Center your snare wires equidistant from both edges with the snare mechanism ON and tension knob 2/3 loose, but still gripping..
3. Tighten snare wires to butt plate and strainer using tape [preferred] or string.
4. Again check centering as you slowly tighten snare strainer knob.
5. Listen and fine tune while hitting batter w/ stick.
6. Make sure snare side head is quite tight.
7. Select best batter head for your style of playing and type of drum. Avoid Moongel unless miked up. Hope this helps you. See "Sounds like a Drum" on Ytb for great tutorials on complete snare drum setups.
Nice :D
I'll try on my snare ! It's hard to get a good sound with the snare of the Catalina Maple kit
True😂
don't , it warps your hoop
I just feels like this will make your snare rim out of round and uneven.
This technique really work and give better sound to my snare drum
nice vid !!!! you should check out the MASSHOFF snare tuning method 80% similar.. he tunes his reso side super tight, then has a varied batter tuning technique.. Mashoff also gives more insight and techique especially on the tuning procedure for the batter side...
How does loosening the tension as indicated affect the rebound?
the snare sound? I'm ok with my snare. I want my kick to sound like this. thx.
How specifics of this snare? 14" 6, 6.5?
nice! 👍👍
The sound at 1:34 is what I don’t want and have it and i’m sort of new to tuning I want a nice crisp snare sound but just don’t know what to do any help?
*Saved*
Man my snare got the fastest sound when it cracked from me over tightenin the bottom! Shoulda bought a drumeo drum key...dang!!
can I sample these sounds for my Drum Kit?
Good video with some quick tips.
But, as often, little to no time was spent on the bottom head and how it corresponds with the top head.
"Tune the bottom head tight" is mistaken by a lot of drummers with cranking it up so high that they're actually choking the drum.
Plus, a lot of variety can be achieved by experimenting with the bottom head tuning (instead of cranking up the snare wire tension).
Also snare wires should be mentioned more often, cause again, it's something that a lot of people just crank up and wonder why their sound still sucks. Let your drum breathe!
Nice
it sounds alright
Will this warp the hoop?
Forget the snare, Dat KICK BASS!!!!!! info on Mic used and drum head?
Nice video. What's the name of the opening music?
what's the name of the music that's playing please I want to know.
i like the tighter snare
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Me too. This tuning makes it sound lifeless. Overtones are good. You just have to learn how to tune correctly.
OnBendedKneeMusic lifeless? Lol your opinion is clueless.
INAUDIATIOSNESS 43 true, but still. Those kind of opinions is like denying other possible options. Like option 'A' is the only way.
Get what i mean? That's why i call him clueless.
INAUDIATIOSNESS 43 bcs it's purely personal preference. I mean, even if it sounds lifeless, but it still works the intended purpose and some people do like it. Then why not?
hey! what's the name of the song on the outtro? is it available without the drum layer?
Sounds pretttttty goood, although you would want to put a gate on it, for the long over tone afterwards.
What he placed on drum ?
1:56 super swift self promotion
scatsy lol
Doesn't damage shells. I used this tip for years because I've seen it on mashoff drum channel first.
what set and snare is that?
what kick mic dang
whats the blue square thing u put on drum
dropped my drumeo drum key by the way
This video is MONEY $$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😎💯🔥👍😎💯🔥👍😎💯🔥👍
That's very Benny Greb of you! ;)
Anyone know what kind of kit he’s using?
references to moongel* Jarrod probably buried his head in his hands lol
I've seen many comments on similar videos saying that similar techniques will put your hoops and/or drum out of round. I wouldn't want to keep it tuned like that long term unless I knew it was safe.
It is.
I want drumeo Tshrit. how to get it? :)
I'm pretty sure this would warp your shell after a while?
sounds great! those overtones came from the tom, not the snare. you can hear at 3:09 when he mutes the tom and the snare sounds nice and fat and the sustain goes away.
2:56 beat sounds like Vultures by John M. Agree?
Get a deeper wood shell.....
First get your lugs finger tight and tighten them in increments.
First tune both heads exactly the same. I tune the top head not only for pitch, but also to get the desired rebound.
Sometimes the exact same top and bottom head tension sounds fantastic, depending on the drum itself.
Then I start tightening the bottom head in increments till I find the desired overall sound, bottom to top tension relationship.
When you find the best relative tension that works for a specific snare drum......if you memorize, and/or write down the exact drum key turns/tension, you can always dial that drum in every time.
I also use the Remo Powerstroke 3 snare head with the dot.
Its a pre muffled head and usually it cuts just enough ring for a great sound without extra muffling......
if I need more muffling, I usually use a ring I cut out of an old head to lay on top......and if I want that 70's Ringo, Eagles, Stan Lynch sound, I'll tape a carboard coaster to the head with gaffer tape.
These are the things that work for me.....
It's not for everyone, but I thought I'd share.
What is the probability of breaking the snare skin while doing it?
i want that hillsong fat snare sound any tips ?
What brand is this kit?
which snare sound best in low tuning?
The cheap one. Wood shell $50-$100
I took a clear two ply head and cut a hole in the center of the head. That way when I hit the snare I will still be able to play rolls. Then I loosened the drum head on my snare and tuned it up again one full turn on each lug. I put the head with the hole on top of my snare and play it. It sounds fatter than the snare here. Go listen to Shoot To Thrill by AC/DC. The snare on the track sounds just like mine after i used this trick.
Caleb Grant This is legitimately the best trick to do. I took a coated 2 ply head, and cut a small (5"ish diameter in one) hole in one ply and in the other I turned it into more of an e-ring (so probably about a 12" hole so the ring is only about an inch wide. Partnered it with 42 strand snare wires on the bottom and it's the best sounding snare now.
So the snare heads are mitch match, aquarian on too and evans on bottom
Huge thx! Instant phatness!
Wouldn't it damage the rim or the drum?
Nope
Yes it could - it may not but highly likely to.
yes.
It would if you kept the tuning that way for an extended period of time, but you just tune it back to normal after you're finished.
No, it won't. I build drums...edges are hard wood, she'll is hard wood hoops are metal. How would this damage the rim of the drum? I e done this and no issues. Give it a try, what do you have to lose :)
I just use a Remo CS head and tune it evenly low. Get a nice low tone that doesn't have many overtones, but sounds extremely fat. Then I use a thicker than normal snare side head with a 42 strand snare wires tunes loose, but not too loose.
Screw the snare! How did you get that bass sound?
why does this not work on my pearl export snare? its a 5.5×14 inch and when i do this it just makes a horrible humming sound
Same😢
Now how do we get our bass sounding like that
Isn't it safer to do what benny does and put a head face down on the batter side?
Same Masshoff drums tuning technique :1