It just meant it won't be connected to the new main EN server where Fauna's World Tree is. It's not getting deleted or anything but they can't take out stuff in it then bring it to the main server. And if any of the girls are really worried of losing the server, they should step up and ask ownership of it, just like Subaru who is now the caretaker of the old JP server.
I guess Hololive Minecraft server staff haven’t heard of the existence of MCEdit, or maybe even the likes of litematica + printer. (this one is slow though)
@@JsJdvI thought it started as a combined server so that people who came later in JP and EN have a new place for both to start fresh and space to build things-more of a problem on JP.
Eeeeh, this is Minecraft. I can literally draw the structures of the world in my notebook (just need a very big one) and take them out for a walk. There are miriads of ways to copy worlds, planes, just exporting chunks and then importing them in the middle of ocean biome .
As explained in the video, the EN Server isn't being closed down, it's just becoming disconnected, i.e. it'll become an isolated server where it can't share and transfer resources to the other servers in the same way it was previously. And if Calli's suppositions are correct, the disconnection might also happen to the others like the ID server and the second JP server. The practical effect is that the disconnected servers will no longer be able to benefit from the resources and farms the other servers have and will need to become self-sufficient, at least until a way to reconnect them can be done.
Oh man, the EN server... I could discuss it's memories for hours if I wanted to... From the famous "hole" to Ame's "1-8 count" There's just a lot of memories from that server
I think the talents need only to request to reconnect the severed servers to the main one. It takes money and effort to reconnect something old back after some major updates, thus the announcement of severance of the older servers, but if anyone requests for it, I'm sure it is well within their ability to reconnect severed connections.
You're misunderstanding it. The old EN server being disconnected just meant they can't bring stuff from the old EN server into the main server. It'll be a completely separate server but totally accessible by the girls.
I think they mean "Merging" so the old building can be relocated to new server or vice versa so they can enjoy both memories together in more majestic & memorable & shared nostalgias, causes things are far more enjoyable when it is being savoured & appreciated together.
big thing i was sad about that Myth didn't visit was the inside of Haachama's Sky Castle and Haachwarts (hogwarts). Ik they glazed over it during the stream like "oh thats Haachama's sky castle" but that girl worked so hard on those 2 builds. iirc i was watching her build it live and she hoped that the EN girls would login, so they could play together cuz she was looking for people to play with... 😔 (this was when the JP members started to play a lot less Minecraft and EN just went through their phase but Haachama just missed it and joined pretty much at the end)
I think they wanna update the main server to a new upgrade that isn't supported by the connection mods they using. so when they upgrade the main server the connections wont be working anymore
I'm play single-player MC and have never played MP. Having said that, I have a few questions: • Wouldn't there be people creating new connection mods that can help connect old-version servers to fully updated ones? • What would happen to the the old EN server (ver. 1.18?) if it was fully updated to the current version/s? Iirc the unaffected chunks would be the ones the girls have previously explored, or was that wrong? • Someone in the comments section mentioned that multiple servers connecting to a central one can create lag. If so, wouldn't it be more prudent if they're connected in-series (like links in a chain) than _all_ other servers connected to a central one?
@@alcor4670mods need to work for the current version and not all mods are updated quickly or made for every version of the game. There are so many updates as we are on 1.22.2 and there’s various 1.nth.nth versions. Updating a mod just for a new update to come out that could break the mod is why mods usually skip updates until major ones 1.nth.0. The optifine mod skips several due to how constant it would need to update. We know another 1.22.nth update is coming soon and then another update after that in a few months. The frequency of that is more than what mod developers can handle especially if they don’t know how long an update will stick around before they need to update their mod.
@@anthonynguyen1289 the minor mods usually don't update enough to break things. That said a mod dev is unlikely to update mid cycle. We also get major updates with decent regularity so they know when the major update that is more likely to break a mod is going to come out. If I had to guess a mod for connecting servers is a fairly high priority mod within the community. Also if they can't ever find a server connecting mod that works they can literally copy/paste the chunks from the other servers into a random location, far out location in the main server and connect it by an in-server portal or a command block.
@@anthonynguyen1289 I don't think it's an issue of updates breaking the mod, the issue is more than likely that Microsoft/Mojang is starting to crack down on mods, taking down videos and even handing out bans. Hololive is _very_ cautious about permissions, even reaching out to confirm permissions for games that already give permission in the EULA/ToS, so they aren't going to risk the mod getting all of them banned and potentially costing them everyone's channels.
You misunderstood here. This world wont die. It's just not connected to the current server anymore. Think of it as a lost treasure chest. Not gone/abandoned. Just locked away underwater until they find and open it again.
I dont migrate my minecraft servers, but i think connecting worlds with different versions is hard, thats why ina said it TWICE that you can still access it, but it won't be connected through portals and stuff from the newer server
@@BoyzbyProbably costs more maintenance fees than they want to use. This means the old EN server will be left unupdated and likely never used again except for nostalgia
Maybe a promise anniversary project could be building an exact 1/1 creation in the new server? I'd watch that. After completion, they bring all her inventory over into the new tower.
I don’t think it will be all branches. It would be all holoEN, holoJP HoloID and Devis. Holostars still have thier own server. Like it would combine all the hololive branch server and maybe Holostars EN and Holostars JP will combined to it own server
@@omegasol528 I mean, he said, Hololive, not Hololive Production. Don't think he meant to say anything about the Stars, even because last I saw their server was running fine.
Kiara: What would be the reason? "They run out of money to host the server"? Nintendo: See? She gets it! We can't afford spending money that doesn't give us more money!
2:04 Yeah, it's not like you guys could've missed it... It's literally taller than AT LEAST 3 Honda Civic, and wider than 1 Hakos Baelzu laying down...
Do not overreact. They arent closing the server. They still have accessnto those servers only you cannot move things to the new server. This isnt new news either, and it isnt limited to the en server. Flare for example has been moving a lot of shiraken resources to the new server because of this. TLDR minecraft updates can sometimes be complicated, esp for servers with connection. In this case they most likely have to sever the connection to perform the update. It isnt limited to EN. JP and ID server are gonna receive the same treatment. If they want to preserve resources or tools they will have to bring them over to the new server, like what Flare is doing. A lot of JP and ID members basically transferred a lot of their stuff over to the new server. They will still have access to the old server. Its better this way tbh. A lot of memories were made when they shared a single server. When EN and ID got their own server interbranch interaction died out. Only when the new server opened we got a lot of the interactions again.
one of the nostalgiaest things ever was when Miko discovered that the old JP minecraft world was still accessible, went for a tour, visited the tomb of her pet llama and got a bit emotional about all the stuff that happened since
People don't understand that the portals are being disconnected, it'll go back to the separate state they had, still open, but stuff won't be able to pass like before, it's gonna be like an actual museum at this rate
No matter how often Ina explains it, people in the comment section still saying the EN server will be gone. Do you not understand English? It's not gone, just disconnected. The server will always be there, it's just they can't bring stuff back and forth to another server like usual. The same will happen to the old JP and ID server. Will they ever be connected again? It depends on the updates. It's the game's fault.
@@1stCallipostlethe odds weren’t high even when it was connected. Most of the time people visit it for three reasons: 1 they accidentally stumble into the portal and explore a little 2 it’s Fauna and she is using her farms 3 it’s people intentionally wanting to check it out. If it’s 3, then the people can always check it out by just logging into it. 1 is complete accident and rarely happens. 2 is Fauna being focused on a task so she’s not exploring or anything so you won’t really catch that many old builds.
@@1stCallipostle Will they ever play Minecraft in the EN server again? EN barely playing Minecraft on the EN server or any other server for years. I understand that they're bored. The most important thing is that the things they've already built are safe and sound and they can come back to reminisce like Miko did. But you have to feel bad for Fauna because now she has to finish her tree this year otherwise she can't bring the material for the tree anymore. Since she built some of her farms there.
Dude, I can write down the most important chunks in my notebook (just need a really big one), and take it for a walk. There are tools to export/import blocks, structures, chunks, etc - whatever, however. From old Java Minecraft, to new Microsoft C++ Minecraft, to Minecraft-on-Redstone-In-Minecraft (that's a thing, I am not joking).
I wouldn't worry about the server access, they'll figure things out. But I hope this update doesn't break the things Watame is building on her casino. There are very intricate game machines there.
From a technical stand point, they could always 'world edit' it and bring the whole chunks to the new server world. Might lose something here and there but at least it keeps the important parts. Just more work than keeping them connected.
You can always just send a copy of the world to everyone and I mean there's plenty of tools to copy/paste all the things from the old server into the new one. Even relative beginners wouldn't struggle much learning them if thats the route you wanna take.
There is a way to move everything as is and then kinda paste it to a new world/server, if they'd want to go through the trouble. It's a mod that kinda records all the blockdata as you move around the area.. basically everything your game loads, it records on file. You gotta open the boxes if you want their contents to be retained if I remember correctly and once you're done touring the area you want recorded, you stop the program. Then you gotta open up the world file you wanna put it to and manually place it to some location. Often this leaves very jarring looking edges to the area where the world's ground and the copied area's ground is on different levels and then you just gotta kinda manually form it to look natural. :D I did it once from a server that was rebooting, after I had built a castle and a memorial for my father who passed away from cancer. I don't know why it helped deal with the grief, just keeping busy and building a big memorial thing... but I really wanted to store it, so I got it to one of my offline worlds from the server. While often deemed "cheating", I got the permission of the server admin to do it at the end.
damn losing all of the server connection would be sad even if it's still can be access especially other branch also can't visits.... alot of ID girls hardwork to make a city soo people can visit and EN/JP memories 😢
I dont know much about how MC serves work but I imagine it might be getting to a point where its becoming to much of a issue. We've seen the main server lag a lot and I think it may be in part to it being connected to the EN, ID and og JP server (I also think they have an extra server for resources connected to the main one but I don't remember). They may be removing some servers to lessen the strain on the main one and unfortunately the EN server will be one of them since no one uses it, hopefully they find a way to preserve it.
Most likely if they're using the plugins I think they are, the servers are separate and the portals just trigger an automatic disconnect and connect to one of the others and then copy inventory. I think It shouldn't be weighing down any other server.
This sucks so much, it's one of the rare ways of getting to see the legacy of old members, and a ground for new members to place their mark. Not to mention the interaction between branches. Having it disconnected practically makes it offline, hardly anyone will visit it besides nostalgia.
If they really want, Cover can go in and merge the old worlds into the new main server by exporting the longest occupied chunks. Wouldn't be all that hard, but I suppose if Cover is worried about the load from all the old builds from the 3 servers, they might not want to do it. The issue probably lies with whatever multiverse plugin they had been using hasn't been updated to be compatible with 1.21.
most likely the map and inventory data will be saved. But there wont be any server or hub/portal between old EN and main/new ones. Sometimes it's not worth the time to handle the server that only 1 or 2 members played (As Fauna is the only still do MC stream regular, and others don't have intention to play except in major events)
The connection is bad to lose too, even if the server remains. Without that connection, future generations are less likely to go there. I hope they can work to keep it connected somehow.
I hope someday the OG EN server can be made public access like a museum or something (as in you cant alter anything, but just look, im not very familiar with how MC works haha)
Its not because of whats on the servers themselves, but because the plug in connecting those servers isnt up to date yet. Expect them to be reconnected soon tho
I think it will be disconnected because their server is running the old patch of MC. Im just guessing but it happened to me in my friend's Minecraft server where the old world needs to be reset and we start a nee one because of a major update. That old server was like many years old but because the update include changes in the biomes and seeds we are required to start over.
They can still connect to the original EN server it's more like since it'll be left not updated no one will build new projects on it anymore. It's likely a way to get the different branches of Holo interacting on the shared server.
The way I understand it, from what Ina was saying (who seemed to know the most) Nothing is happening to this server. The server will continue to exist in perpetuity in its current state. But also... that _nothing_ includes updates. It will exist forever on the current patch and never move forward.
Or... you know? Maybe just copy the buildings from the server that's about to be disconnected to the one that would still be active? IIRC. On the previous VSPO Land Minecraft server that they let other vtubers visit, all the historical buildings that the members built on the main one were also showcased there. Quite certain that there are ways to do it as long as someone has access to both servers.
People calling the newer server the EN server when its meant to be a joint Hololive server. How did she not see Fauna's tree, its a thicc boy with a big shadow.
This is why I lost interest in building stuff in Minecraft a long time ago. It just dawned on me that so much time and effort can be lost so easily, I've got really discouraged by the realization. I know that no game is permanent but in Minecraft especially it's sad to lose stuff you've worked on.
I mean the only way you would lose anything is if your world got corrupted. You can make backups and if you’re really worried just never update the world. Updating it doesn’t delete stuff you made. The only way you lose any progress permanently in any game is if it’s a live service game with a server that can die. A game that is run natively using your computer can only die if your computer dies or you yourself delete the files. Like if you started playing Mario Maker 1 for the Wii U Nintendo can’t stop you from making levels or playing the game just because the servers are gone. You just don’t have the servers to check other people’s things.
Why can`t staff san just update both server? If both are updated, it can connect right? Big brain Ame : "No, they`ll keep it connected. WHY NOT?" Perhaps we can make petition to Hololive about this.
Think from what Ina said the idea is that after the EN server is disconnected from the others it'll remain on its current patch forever. This just means no one will likely build new things in it and it will need to be completely self sufficient resource wise.
Umm... Minecraft's very easy to update and backup right? even use some plugin or mod the map files actually just ctrl +C then ctrl +v done~ so maybe because the rant sever or something isuue ?
It can still be connected but not that in sync like how your character "data" inventory is saved when crossing to ID and JP servers for example. It might be an independent one
What would prevent the worlds from reconnecting again? I'm not too well versed in minecraft server configs but I doubt it's just about a minecraft update.
From my understanding, this only means that anyone from Holo who wants to join would have to exit the current server and log in to the old EN one through its own particular IP. Is that correct? It would be cool for them to make a world download available while they're at it.
EN's rarely play in the EN minecraft server or don't seem to give it use so it would be a waste of assets. The JP and ID do use Minecraft far more often and host events, EN rarely or never (that I know) host any event. So yeah its unnecessary to keep EN server connected.
What about the new update will break the connection? Is it a server thing? Will they no longer be able to host multi-world servers at all? Won’t that affect resource servers as well? Would they be able to re-connect them in the future? If not, does that mean that the older servers can be open to certain non-members the way Phoenix mama was on back in the day?
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It just meant it won't be connected to the new main EN server where Fauna's World Tree is. It's not getting deleted or anything but they can't take out stuff in it then bring it to the main server.
And if any of the girls are really worried of losing the server, they should step up and ask ownership of it, just like Subaru who is now the caretaker of the old JP server.
they can aslo literally just download the files and make it public
Isn't that the main EN server? I thought the cluttered mess where Fauna's world tree is, is the JP server.
I guess Hololive Minecraft server staff haven’t heard of the existence of MCEdit, or maybe even the likes of litematica + printer. (this one is slow though)
@@JsJdvI thought it started as a combined server so that people who came later in JP and EN have a new place for both to start fresh and space to build things-more of a problem on JP.
Eeeeh, this is Minecraft. I can literally draw the structures of the world in my notebook (just need a very big one) and take them out for a walk.
There are miriads of ways to copy worlds, planes, just exporting chunks and then importing them in the middle of ocean biome .
Phoenixton... Sana's tower... The Hole...
Jesus T_T
Yeah.. Sana Beeeeg tower. And that mystery murderous hole.
Almost read that as a quote
Dont be too melodramatic. They will be able to access it, just wont be connected to the current server.
Sana's message, not even all the EN read the message, maybe😢
be cool if someone reconstructed the art with stained glass of myth members
As explained in the video, the EN Server isn't being closed down, it's just becoming disconnected, i.e. it'll become an isolated server where it can't share and transfer resources to the other servers in the same way it was previously. And if Calli's suppositions are correct, the disconnection might also happen to the others like the ID server and the second JP server. The practical effect is that the disconnected servers will no longer be able to benefit from the resources and farms the other servers have and will need to become self-sufficient, at least until a way to reconnect them can be done.
Most of Fauna's farms are on the old EN server though (of course the raid farm's dead now, but the others still work).
wait, what about Fauna's tree? I don't remember which server it was...
@@kusog3 New Server
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Thankfully she doesn't need the bee farm anymore
Oh man, the EN server... I could discuss it's memories for hours if I wanted to...
From the famous "hole" to Ame's "1-8 count"
There's just a lot of memories from that server
they cant get rid of it, it has Sanas Tower!! T_T
@@Cjherand It has Ame's statue with her colossal booba
1-8 count?
Oooohh the railway, I remember
I can still hear the "ooone twoo three four fiiive six seeee-ven eight!"
*The memories people won't see it anymore-?...* I hope the people behind it connects it 🥺
I think the talents need only to request to reconnect the severed servers to the main one. It takes money and effort to reconnect something old back after some major updates, thus the announcement of severance of the older servers, but if anyone requests for it, I'm sure it is well within their ability to reconnect severed connections.
You're misunderstanding it. The old EN server being disconnected just meant they can't bring stuff from the old EN server into the main server. It'll be a completely separate server but totally accessible by the girls.
it will be a secret level
I think they mean "Merging" so the old building can be relocated to new server or vice versa so they can enjoy both memories together in more majestic & memorable & shared nostalgias, causes things are far more enjoyable when it is being savoured & appreciated together.
big thing i was sad about that Myth didn't visit was the inside of Haachama's Sky Castle and Haachwarts (hogwarts).
Ik they glazed over it during the stream like "oh thats Haachama's sky castle" but that girl worked so hard on those 2 builds. iirc i was watching her build it live and she hoped that the EN girls would login, so they could play together cuz she was looking for people to play with... 😔
(this was when the JP members started to play a lot less Minecraft and EN just went through their phase but Haachama just missed it and joined pretty much at the end)
*I love myth so much* they've been a great part of my life 😭🙏🏻
I think they wanna update the main server to a new upgrade that isn't supported by the connection mods they using. so when they upgrade the main server the connections wont be working anymore
I'm play single-player MC and have never played MP. Having said that, I have a few questions:
• Wouldn't there be people creating new connection mods that can help connect old-version servers to fully updated ones?
• What would happen to the the old EN server (ver. 1.18?) if it was fully updated to the current version/s? Iirc the unaffected chunks would be the ones the girls have previously explored, or was that wrong?
• Someone in the comments section mentioned that multiple servers connecting to a central one can create lag. If so, wouldn't it be more prudent if they're connected in-series (like links in a chain) than _all_ other servers connected to a central one?
@@alcor4670mods need to work for the current version and not all mods are updated quickly or made for every version of the game. There are so many updates as we are on 1.22.2 and there’s various 1.nth.nth versions. Updating a mod just for a new update to come out that could break the mod is why mods usually skip updates until major ones 1.nth.0. The optifine mod skips several due to how constant it would need to update. We know another 1.22.nth update is coming soon and then another update after that in a few months. The frequency of that is more than what mod developers can handle especially if they don’t know how long an update will stick around before they need to update their mod.
@@anthonynguyen1289 the minor mods usually don't update enough to break things. That said a mod dev is unlikely to update mid cycle. We also get major updates with decent regularity so they know when the major update that is more likely to break a mod is going to come out.
If I had to guess a mod for connecting servers is a fairly high priority mod within the community.
Also if they can't ever find a server connecting mod that works they can literally copy/paste the chunks from the other servers into a random location, far out location in the main server and connect it by an in-server portal or a command block.
@@anthonynguyen1289 I don't think it's an issue of updates breaking the mod, the issue is more than likely that Microsoft/Mojang is starting to crack down on mods, taking down videos and even handing out bans. Hololive is _very_ cautious about permissions, even reaching out to confirm permissions for games that already give permission in the EULA/ToS, so they aren't going to risk the mod getting all of them banned and potentially costing them everyone's channels.
rip bunkeroni
rip pantsu express
rip magma tkb
so many oldschool memories
Rip sana mini universe house
You misunderstood here. This world wont die. It's just not connected to the current server anymore. Think of it as a lost treasure chest. Not gone/abandoned. Just locked away underwater until they find and open it again.
The bond between the members of Myth is something wonderful😭
WHAT ABOUT ATLANTI- oh wait, it never exist in the first place
Maybe the atlantis was the brainfarts goob made along the way!
She should just add some baby blocks somewhere
gura : I'm working on it ogey
@@Rururararururi that statement sounds like coming from a toddler when parents asking about her homework XD
The og holo server from 2018/19 still exists last i heard think a jp member is keeping it around
Yes Subaru is the only caretaker of that server at the moment.
I remember miko going through memory lane in space
I like how rational Ina is. Shes always quite down to earth (sometimes literally)
I dont migrate my minecraft servers, but i think connecting worlds with different versions is hard, thats why ina said it TWICE that you can still access it, but it won't be connected through portals and stuff from the newer server
I just don't understand why they can't update it so it can stay connected.
@@BoyzbyProbably costs more maintenance fees than they want to use. This means the old EN server will be left unupdated and likely never used again except for nostalgia
Hopefully we don't lose Sana's tower
Maybe a promise anniversary project could be building an exact 1/1 creation in the new server? I'd watch that. After completion, they bring all her inventory over into the new tower.
A HololiveEN Server 2 with all branches would be a cool restart.
I don’t think it will be all branches. It would be all holoEN, holoJP HoloID and Devis. Holostars still have thier own server. Like it would combine all the hololive branch server and maybe Holostars EN and Holostars JP will combined to it own server
By the second server do you mean like the one that holojustice is using or a brand new one?
@@omegasol528 I mean, he said, Hololive, not Hololive Production. Don't think he meant to say anything about the Stars, even because last I saw their server was running fine.
Nooo, Those are memories😢
The old EN server antics was my introduction to HoloEN.
Kiara: What would be the reason? "They run out of money to host the server"?
Nintendo: See? She gets it! We can't afford spending money that doesn't give us more money!
2:04 Yeah, it's not like you guys could've missed it... It's literally taller than AT LEAST 3 Honda Civic, and wider than 1 Hakos Baelzu laying down...
Do not overreact. They arent closing the server. They still have accessnto those servers only you cannot move things to the new server. This isnt new news either, and it isnt limited to the en server. Flare for example has been moving a lot of shiraken resources to the new server because of this.
TLDR minecraft updates can sometimes be complicated, esp for servers with connection. In this case they most likely have to sever the connection to perform the update.
It isnt limited to EN. JP and ID server are gonna receive the same treatment. If they want to preserve resources or tools they will have to bring them over to the new server, like what Flare is doing. A lot of JP and ID members basically transferred a lot of their stuff over to the new server.
They will still have access to the old server.
Its better this way tbh. A lot of memories were made when they shared a single server. When EN and ID got their own server interbranch interaction died out. Only when the new server opened we got a lot of the interactions again.
Sanas Tower 😢
Still brings me tears everytime I see or think of her Tower
one of the nostalgiaest things ever was when Miko discovered that the old JP minecraft world was still accessible, went for a tour, visited the tomb of her pet llama and got a bit emotional about all the stuff that happened since
People don't understand that the portals are being disconnected, it'll go back to the separate state they had, still open, but stuff won't be able to pass like before, it's gonna be like an actual museum at this rate
What about PPP tho?!?!? Those were some memories made in creating that
No matter how often Ina explains it, people in the comment section still saying the EN server will be gone. Do you not understand English? It's not gone, just disconnected. The server will always be there, it's just they can't bring stuff back and forth to another server like usual. The same will happen to the old JP and ID server. Will they ever be connected again? It depends on the updates. It's the game's fault.
Well the thing is, with it being severed the odds of us seeing it again don't feel so hot
Maybe it will spark a new episode/project of Minecraft for the members ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@1stCallipostlethe odds weren’t high even when it was connected. Most of the time people visit it for three reasons: 1 they accidentally stumble into the portal and explore a little 2 it’s Fauna and she is using her farms 3 it’s people intentionally wanting to check it out. If it’s 3, then the people can always check it out by just logging into it. 1 is complete accident and rarely happens. 2 is Fauna being focused on a task so she’s not exploring or anything so you won’t really catch that many old builds.
@@1stCallipostle Will they ever play Minecraft in the EN server again? EN barely playing Minecraft on the EN server or any other server for years. I understand that they're bored. The most important thing is that the things they've already built are safe and sound and they can come back to reminisce like Miko did. But you have to feel bad for Fauna because now she has to finish her tree this year otherwise she can't bring the material for the tree anymore. Since she built some of her farms there.
Dude, I can write down the most important chunks in my notebook (just need a really big one), and take it for a walk.
There are tools to export/import blocks, structures, chunks, etc - whatever, however. From old Java Minecraft, to new Microsoft C++ Minecraft, to Minecraft-on-Redstone-In-Minecraft (that's a thing, I am not joking).
So the EN Server will be frozen in a point of time…Always preserved in its final state.
Man I’ve been waiting for Advent and Justice tour in Minecraft En server
So if I understand, the EN Server will still exist. However, the connections to the other servers will no longer function.
I hope they make a public world download
Praying that staff also archives it or something. This stuff needs to be preserved fr, so many memories
thanks calli.
holomyth forever!
i wish they could release a world save every so often so us fans can walk around tand take in the memories left by our idols
They finally found a way to get rid of the “hole”
They should download and save the world file for posterity, maybe even post it online for the fans to explore.
The 2 New gens is yet to visit and leave a mark in our Hometown of EN server
I wouldn't worry about the server access, they'll figure things out.
But I hope this update doesn't break the things Watame is building on her casino. There are very intricate game machines there.
I am praying for Cover to at least make it available for the fans to explore the Old EN server. It is so many legacies that mustn't erased.
From a technical stand point, they could always 'world edit' it and bring the whole chunks to the new server world. Might lose something here and there but at least it keeps the important parts. Just more work than keeping them connected.
You can always just send a copy of the world to everyone and I mean there's plenty of tools to copy/paste all the things from the old server into the new one. Even relative beginners wouldn't struggle much learning them if thats the route you wanna take.
There is a way to move everything as is and then kinda paste it to a new world/server, if they'd want to go through the trouble.
It's a mod that kinda records all the blockdata as you move around the area.. basically everything your game loads, it records on file. You gotta open the boxes if you want their contents to be retained if I remember correctly and once you're done touring the area you want recorded, you stop the program.
Then you gotta open up the world file you wanna put it to and manually place it to some location. Often this leaves very jarring looking edges to the area where the world's ground and the copied area's ground is on different levels and then you just gotta kinda manually form it to look natural. :D
I did it once from a server that was rebooting, after I had built a castle and a memorial for my father who passed away from cancer. I don't know why it helped deal with the grief, just keeping busy and building a big memorial thing... but I really wanted to store it, so I got it to one of my offline worlds from the server.
While often deemed "cheating", I got the permission of the server admin to do it at the end.
The end of the Bunkerronii adventure. Do you remember where Kronii try to start a Civil war. Or Mumei's Fox army.
Haachama built something on the EN server far as I know.
damn losing all of the server connection would be sad even if it's still can be access especially other branch also can't visits.... alot of ID girls hardwork to make a city soo people can visit and EN/JP memories 😢
I dont know much about how MC serves work but I imagine it might be getting to a point where its becoming to much of a issue. We've seen the main server lag a lot and I think it may be in part to it being connected to the EN, ID and og JP server (I also think they have an extra server for resources connected to the main one but I don't remember). They may be removing some servers to lessen the strain on the main one and unfortunately the EN server will be one of them since no one uses it, hopefully they find a way to preserve it.
"No one uses it" could be said of all pre-combined server servers (maybe save ID for the projects)
Most likely if they're using the plugins I think they are, the servers are separate and the portals just trigger an automatic disconnect and connect to one of the others and then copy inventory.
I think It shouldn't be weighing down any other server.
If the old one is leaving... I feel sad about it... Because it has history
they can save the world...
"what, are they gonna run out of money to run it?" LMAO never change wawa
It should be kept... it can be something like a memorial for HoloEN. Sana' tower is there... and now, Ame's stop
This sucks so much, it's one of the rare ways of getting to see the legacy of old members, and a ground for new members to place their mark.
Not to mention the interaction between branches.
Having it disconnected practically makes it offline, hardly anyone will visit it besides nostalgia.
my guess is, its bungeecord plugin related, the worlds and servers will exist, they will just have to manually jump between servers
If they really want, Cover can go in and merge the old worlds into the new main server by exporting the longest occupied chunks. Wouldn't be all that hard, but I suppose if Cover is worried about the load from all the old builds from the 3 servers, they might not want to do it.
The issue probably lies with whatever multiverse plugin they had been using hasn't been updated to be compatible with 1.21.
Maybe cover can do another museum seed or added to that one of jp projects that was pretty sweet and awesome to see those in the same place
most likely the map and inventory data will be saved. But there wont be any server or hub/portal between old EN and main/new ones. Sometimes it's not worth the time to handle the server that only 1 or 2 members played (As Fauna is the only still do MC stream regular, and others don't have intention to play except in major events)
As if the news that Ame's leaving couldn't get any worse...
When Minecraft version updates...
MOD users : "Oh my..."
The connection is bad to lose too, even if the server remains. Without that connection, future generations are less likely to go there. I hope they can work to keep it connected somehow.
New update changing a lot of things in recent path.😢
Sana's tower needs to be preserved q.q
coolest thing hololive could do would be publish the world file
Connect The (Minecraft) World
I hope someday the OG EN server can be made public access like a museum or something (as in you cant alter anything, but just look, im not very familiar with how MC works haha)
I know it'll never happen, but I wish they'd release the map.
Its not because of whats on the servers themselves, but because the plug in connecting those servers isnt up to date yet. Expect them to be reconnected soon tho
I think it will be disconnected because their server is running the old patch of MC. Im just guessing but it happened to me in my friend's Minecraft server where the old world needs to be reset and we start a nee one because of a major update. That old server was like many years old but because the update include changes in the biomes and seeds we are required to start over.
I hate the idea that the next generations of HoloEN won't be able to see their Senpais who left mark in the old server.
They can still connect to the original EN server it's more like since it'll be left not updated no one will build new projects on it anymore. It's likely a way to get the different branches of Holo interacting on the shared server.
So its not the server gone..just severing the path to it? It would be lone server..like some dead game with offline mode?
Yes. Most likely the EN server just won't be updated and people will only visit it for nostalgic reasons since only the shared server getting updates
They literally built the bus stop near Fauna’s tree lol
That's what I was thinking. Ame even called attention it when choosing the location. Y'know.. if it didn't call attention to itself already...
@@Godoflegos I'd forgive Calli for being distracted, considering Ame going away and her own medical problems.
@@elias.t Wasn't really a criticism. Just a "tee-hee, big obvious tree is obvious". But I guess being a buzz kill is an option too.
@@Godoflegos Ha, sorry. I guess my mood is also a bit too down.
the lack of basic comprehension that is being displayed in the comments is outstanding.
🤳i think someone need contact the minecraft steven
U can just copy towers and add it to new world with special programs
The way I understand it, from what Ina was saying (who seemed to know the most)
Nothing is happening to this server. The server will continue to exist in perpetuity in its current state.
But also... that _nothing_ includes updates. It will exist forever on the current patch and never move forward.
😢Ohhh nooo
Or... you know? Maybe just copy the buildings from the server that's about to be disconnected to the one that would still be active? IIRC. On the previous VSPO Land Minecraft server that they let other vtubers visit, all the historical buildings that the members built on the main one were also showcased there. Quite certain that there are ways to do it as long as someone has access to both servers.
Just imagine someone having logged off while on the original server and then they dont get back on until after it gets cut off 💀
People calling the newer server the EN server when its meant to be a joint Hololive server.
How did she not see Fauna's tree, its a thicc boy with a big shadow.
Is it basically a case where updates to the base game break the mods used to make the connection?
can they release the EN map after the server lose connect?
I'm gonna miss that BEEG tower.....
This is why I lost interest in building stuff in Minecraft a long time ago. It just dawned on me that so much time and effort can be lost so easily, I've got really discouraged by the realization. I know that no game is permanent but in Minecraft especially it's sad to lose stuff you've worked on.
I mean the only way you would lose anything is if your world got corrupted. You can make backups and if you’re really worried just never update the world. Updating it doesn’t delete stuff you made. The only way you lose any progress permanently in any game is if it’s a live service game with a server that can die. A game that is run natively using your computer can only die if your computer dies or you yourself delete the files. Like if you started playing Mario Maker 1 for the Wii U Nintendo can’t stop you from making levels or playing the game just because the servers are gone. You just don’t have the servers to check other people’s things.
How about bunkeroni.?
Likely only visited for nostalgic reasons
Why can`t staff san just update both server? If both are updated, it can connect right?
Big brain Ame : "No, they`ll keep it connected. WHY NOT?"
Perhaps we can make petition to Hololive about this.
I wonder if there's a way to transfer everything to a new server before the update / connection cut?
My theory is probably the server will be updated but the plugin that transport them across server wouldn't work anymore.
Think from what Ina said the idea is that after the EN server is disconnected from the others it'll remain on its current patch forever.
This just means no one will likely build new things in it and it will need to be completely self sufficient resource wise.
By the sound of it its more like a downtime for updates
They should sell the world file. XD
Umm... Minecraft's very easy to update and backup right? even use some plugin or mod the map files actually just ctrl +C then ctrl +v done~
so maybe because the rant sever or something isuue ?
It's probably a server version/migration problems, old en server might have conflicts connecting with the current and future ones
It can still be connected but not that in sync like how your character "data" inventory is saved when crossing to ID and JP servers for example. It might be an independent one
0:33 Why she kept trying to jump on the roof of that little stand thing?
Perhaps someone could recreate those builds accurately on a new server or whatever, but then again.. those would not be the same 😢
Hmm possible Hololive SMP Season 2 lol
noo, nekonomiconis on that server!
I would just move stuff to the other server with mods
What would prevent the worlds from reconnecting again? I'm not too well versed in minecraft server configs but I doubt it's just about a minecraft update.
From my understanding, this only means that anyone from Holo who wants to join would have to exit the current server and log in to the old EN one through its own particular IP. Is that correct?
It would be cool for them to make a world download available while they're at it.
EN's rarely play in the EN minecraft server or don't seem to give it use so it would be a waste of assets. The JP and ID do use Minecraft far more often and host events, EN rarely or never (that I know) host any event. So yeah its unnecessary to keep EN server connected.
oh no wonderful id server gone
What about the new update will break the connection? Is it a server thing? Will they no longer be able to host multi-world servers at all? Won’t that affect resource servers as well? Would they be able to re-connect them in the future? If not, does that mean that the older servers can be open to certain non-members the way Phoenix mama was on back in the day?
no point keep paying for an empty server