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@@counturblessings1179 fuse will be extremely good untill master. 99% of people don't care if he isn't good in pro lobbies as they aren't pros and neither are you.
Hidden Mirage buff that I’m not seeing a lot of people talk about is that you now go invisible even if you don’t initiate the revive. For example if a teammate revives you as soon as the revive is complete you will go Invisible as if you had just revived your teammate. Huge buff imo
Ngl I had a ranked session where all I did was play Mirage. I pretty much just popped his ult whenever I wanted because the cooldown was so short lol I pretty much caused chaos in an open field while two teams, as well as my own, were fighting.
Rampart is definitely going to be a sleeper pick this season. People are going to under estimate how good her purple perks are until they actually try them out for a bit.
Her perks are great, but the problem is her ult is almost a liability itself easy to hear and to easy to counter lol whens the last time you died to Sheila?
@@jamesschaller753it doesn’t even matter if they die when you’re absolutely melting their health from a distance making them waste meds. Her skill ceiling is just high thats why people don’t want to play her, they don’t know when and where to use sheila and amped cover.
Conduit's upgrades are actually different than they are in this video. At level two, she can either see Battery count on deathboxes or increase the damage and radius of her ult. At level 3, she can either take the split charge of her tac or increase its range
I misspoke you are right. Patch notes had them swapped. I've been going with increasing ult radius by %10 (bigger jam) and second upgrade I go with double tac charge (split charge). S tier for sure though
Nah man, Crypto is legit this season. Decrease his tac cooldown, increase the range of the scan and Ult, then just toss that drone out and around to get those juicy scans. I'll never argue another Crypto buff, though lol
As a Crypto main he's at least B tier. Having the ult cooldown and ult range make him a good legend to make team plays with more often and consistently
@@Orange840 I like having my drone cooldown basically nonexistent, but both of those tier 1 passives are awesome. Even his other tier 2 isn't bad, where it calls out squads when you throw it out. I could see value from it if I was solo-queuing
@@BetweenthePunches I agree 10 seconds off the tactical cooldown is really good. However the other upgrade isn't that good when you realize you can just ping the banners when in your drone. It doesn't really save much time.
@Orange840 I haven't used the other tier 2, for sure lol I could just see some utilization as a solo-queuer. It doesn't take long to ping banners, though. You're right
Seer should be D tier all of his perks are mid they don’t do anything to benefit him at all. His best perks revolve around his tactical which is still easily avoidable. It would have been better if they gave him increased fire rate and reduced cooldown for his tactical instead.
@@PinchyLobster Infinite? Definitely not, but he's silencer is quite annoying. 1s of reveal is literally nothing and on top of that Bloodhound can have 3s of full body reveal on 2nd upgrade. Seer is right there where he belongs. He's not too weak and decent on end game, but not too OP as he used to be before and during season 17.
@@LiptonikPL Seer does not have a full body scan. He has diamond and health bar. You also have to hit the player to see him and considering how easy it is to dodge the ability, seer's tactical no longer can be used as reveal, but as silencer. Bloodhound's tactical does not silence or anything like that, but it gives you full info about enemies around you, not in just one place you aim.
Something you missed would be how good to play legends that can open extended crates or scan beacons as it helps your entire team get to purple shields and therefore obtain their perks much quicker.
Can't really argue with Vantage's position individually, but I have been running her in ranked (if no other recon legend is on the team) based on the lvl 2 perk to access ring consoles. As we have seen in high levels in the past (why they had to nerf the storm catcher/lightning rod area on Storm Point) the ability to gain that much info for your team without needing a controller legend can be huge, and as an added benefit getting your team higher evo that much quicker. The team utility is much higher, but understandably her overall kit and large hitbox is suboptimal.
i think you're sleeping on fuse bro, i played him in some ranked recently and i found so many situations where i could just abuse grenade and knuckle cluster spam to either completely turn a fight or at the very least push a whole team out of a position and rack up a ton of damage. this is in early ranked too, when things start to majorly slow down once we all get higher up i think itll only get more useful. he's not like a horizon or bangalore with tons of team utility but his potential to just demolish a fight in seconds so easily is no joke
I feel like Newcastle that low is crazy. Buffing the shield when u know how to play around it and gold shield with that additional healing is probably the best thing about the perks rn. The stronger ult is trash tho cuz maggie laughs at it now days 😂😂😂.
I was just thinking about that…respectfully towards this video ofc I would say Newcastle is still a strong solid legend at the very least somewhere in B tier. His thick shield perk and his extra health are the best imo and even before the perks he always has been a solid legend. Also even have a 4k on my Newcastle
I've been loving Wattson this season. I'm not the greatest with her, but these upgrades feel awesome. My teammates question why I choose the 50 hp off res instead of archstars because our support will get all the revives, but it's saved our support-character when they go down more than extra archstars have. Currently, I also feel like people haven't been throwing things at me as much when I have Gen up
I think bloodhounds an A tier pick personally, scan reduction is always a welcome change and full body makes them more accurate for the team too, especially with bangalore still being meta. Having ravens that scout other teams close without them knowing is also very useful. Great video btw
I strongly believe ballistic isnt popular because there is no reason to use his passive outside the ult, its like his kit just missing a part. His sling weapon should have very fast swap speed to & from the sling along with infinite ammo, i just know this would be a incredible buff. His ult is perfect & q is very annoying. His passive is the only problem
I love you for putting Maggie in A-tier, thank you for calling her insane. I’ve been a Maggie main since she came out, she’s so much fun, her personality is so funny and savage and she causes so much chaos. People hate you if you shoot 2 Riot drills and a fireball wreckin ball is so annoying and I love it. She’s so insane and so much fun to play and I love how calculated you can get with her kit. Her tactical and her ult give so many opportunities for big brain plays bc you can predict ur opponents path and catch them with ur abilities to finish them off
"Ash is much more viable now." - B tier. "If I had stock in Catalyst, I would've sold it last season." - also B tier 😂 Not sure if that shows how weak Ash was, or how strong Catalyst was. Probably both
Wattsons gen can no longer restore shields in the storm. Idk if that was on purpose but it cost me a fight the other day. In other news her ult got buffed. Shield charging/ordnance destroying range has increased by a lot. It really needed that
Lifeline drone can’t heal in the storm now either apparently. I was with the boys yesterday and we used a drone to loot in first circle and it wouldn’t attach to us
I agree that seeing all those Seers running about makes you realize how good he can be, and me being a Caustic main that almost guaranteed silence can really mess you up if the Seer knows what they're doing, it's way more annoying than what Rev could do.
Loba main since season 5 her tactical getting this buff is game changing if they change the perk from reduce cooldown to two tactical a or instant tatical cooldown when she sees epic or legendary loot through a wall or bin/ care package would be game breaking 😅
The could’ve made the handling faster instead in cooldown reduction, I hate using my tactical and then having to wait 5 seconds just to be able to interact with anything
Yeah I am a diehard Loba main. Sadly I am not able to play now because of the finals but the first thing I thought when I saw the perks was "activating Jumpdrive"😂... Honestly and the fact you can take both Bracelet perks. And imagine her with a golden helmet. 15 seconds cool down for that huge tactical. The bracelet is really what I play her for.
Damn. Provision gave fuse an A Tier. I actually disagree with you for once and agree with him lol. Speed boost is exactly what fuse needed. I'd like to see the slow not affect my teammates too and actually start proc when the mother load is shot so enemies are actually trapped.
Blood being b tier on the list is crazy. Especially when looking at ranked. If you select the white raven perk you almost always have her ult for fights. Everyone is running bang and digi threats are rare+only go on shotguns or re45. Blood is bare minimum A tier. The scan beacon is very useful as well….
You know what's great about Wattson's purple upgrade? Find lots of Ultimate Accelerants? Its option A. Don't find many or any? It's option B. The choice is obvious depending on the situation you find yourself in based on the individual game experience. It's not a situation where one is obviously better than the other, which is sadly the case for most of these changed (including Wattson's Blue choice), or a situation where you really need to think about which one to pick. It's great.
Former Masters player here, mostly on Valk and Wraith. The last year has really felt like a slog and hasn’t been much fun to play. I switched to Wattson for the first time this season and I’m back to feeling like a Masters player again. A lot more kills and wins. Definitely a big fan of her right now.
I was a main loba for the most part of my time in apex, but in season 18 I decided to give a try to ash and oh boy do I like her... she is even better now, I don't like the 2 snares, go for the other perk, that catches multiple enemies and lasts 24 seconds, it's amazing in different situations, if u alone ult away and snare the end of the ult, run away, most of the time they will chase u and they won't be able now. 2nd situation, catching them and throw like 2 snares on them behind their cover, they will get it and it's a free kill. B tier is fair but if put her on that of B tier
Id argue that you missed a part of Vantages kit thats alot more impactful now than it ever has been. Her spotter scope. Being able to see the shield level of an enemy team not only tells you their strength, but also lets you know if they've had a chance to upgrade themselves or not. This intel is crucial early game making early squad wipes easier as you can more efficiently target the weaker squads and pick you fights better.
Everyone sleeps on vantage, it’s fine she’s not for everyone. I have a 3.6 kdr already this season with 800 something kills. I’ve played and maimed vantage for probably a 1000 hours and she’s so slept on it’s crazy. Every vantage I come across though is complete garbage tho and I wipe the floor with them pretty much every time so I think a lot of people just don’t know how to play her correctly. She’s undoubtedly the best legend in the game in my opinion, it’s so effortless to engage a fight and get a knock before they even know what to do with her sniper. The new perk makes her jump crazy too, I can’t tell you how many times already this season I’ve gotten a knock on the last squad alive, been able to fly over with her jump and decimate the rest of the team because they’re so frazzled as to what’s even happened. It’s so nice to be able to an assault rifle and an SMG and also have sniping capability when needed. Maybe it takes a thousand hours to really get good with her, who knows.. but I destroy lobbies with her and have a blast doing it. Her improved tactical also jumps as far as an octane jump pad and makes it effortless to get out of a bad situation fast, as well as being able to flank a team in a direction they weren’t even expecting.
@@MangosInTrees I'm not saying she deserves to move up a whole tier, but a few spots in her respective tier atleast. I was kinda disappointed with her perks, was REALLY hoping for more ammo in her sniper.
Mad Maggie is a top 3 legend for ranked without a doubt S in my opinion. Loba is aswell although it is a slight nerf not having purple shields as floor loot anymore. Being able to see those through walls was huge early-mid game as well as taking them from her ult. As a loba main I always choose the tac perk first upgrade
i think valk should be in A at least. seen lots of pros run her in ranked. her ult can now go over lots more terrain which was a huge reason she left the meta, and the extra mobility means she can get you to evo harvesters and care packs much faster for the shield and perk upgrades, not to mention access to bow, wingman and kraber, which are all must picks with the nerfs to so many guns . i also think the scan is really handy for picking up teams and landing on height to guarantee an advantage in the 3v3 which is really important for taking midgame fights or getting into zone, not to mention the fact she lets you stock up on heat shields. i am leaning toward maining her again. but i could be tempted to pick mirage for the fighting. the biggest thing against valk is how many good fighting characters like conduit, bloodhound and revenent in the meta right now that she might not bring enough to team fights.
Tell me you don't try Vantage without telling me. That ULT acel ability gives you 5 shots back. FIVE. Absolutely BUSTED. Won 3 ranked games in a row last night with her and my bro in Gold lobbies 👍
I think there’s probably different tier lists for ranked and pubs and also ranked edge and ranked inside zone. This is the best season bc legends really can be combined with other to maximize their effectiveness
Having Sheila ramp up 20% faster doesn’t sound like a lot but it basically faster than a havoc charge up. You’re basically the grim reaper to enemies who dare push you now
Vantage is the only legend who can hit recon becons AND ring consoles atop of grabbing evo harvestors AND Eco Caches. She can get the team to Purple shieds by end of 1st circle and Red by circle 2. Shes def S-Tier urare thinking about her upgrades the wrong way.
New castle is one id have higher. I get what you’re saying but the speed is huge. He’s the ultimate straight line pusher. Especially if you’re entire team is behind him. Mix him with a Gibby bubble and they both are A tier.
FR people sleep on loba so hard, her tac gives you easy transport between cover, you’re not supposed to just throw it to get out you need to use it to safely reposition. Her ult means you can drop hot or cold and still be guaranteed decent loot, if you’re in a squad you can call to drop back since ult comes up so fast at the start of a game you can wait til you can grab guns and take a much fairer fight. she practically guarantees ammo in last couple rings so edge comps can bunker with her and not have to worry about poking. Idk, the other supports are really strong too but i think her value is overlooked so often just because she’s seen as “loot woman nice cheeks” 😭 Maybe it’s just bc i main her but in a squad you’re practically guaranteed value every game.
i used to play revenent all the time even when he was bottom line garbage, but i just loved his design and tactical. And i am very happy that he has become one of the best legends.
Speed and fast reloads for 90m for whole team, unlimited ammo. The white sling gives you x2 on snipers off drop x1 on 30/30 and others. Shut down enemy fire in a firefight 2/3 of the team. Can’t even fathom the D tier rating.
Ballistic main here... I kinda agree with you. He is very oppressive with a gun like a Havoc or Re that turns it gold. Btw, Ballistics perk that "Triple's the smart bullet duration" only makes it last longer on the grohnd when you a miss/place it there. So really the only good perk is the 2 bullet perk. Im kinda sad that he is an underwhelming legend and got underwhelming perks.
We got a lot better this season though. My only wish is that his first perk let you carry an extra stack of ammo for no space on top of the passive since he burns a ton of ammo between 3 guns early on and it makes it hard to inventory manage on him
I feel like all legends should have gotten actual gameplay changes, the shield and battery count perks they added for certain legends just don't feel necessary and feel super tailored to late game algs. With all almost everyone getting almost alternate abilities that can basically change their playstyle completely those like 3 or 4 legends I'm not sure exactly how many shouldn't have been forced to have a second passive basically. Especially when they could literally be that, just passive expansions.
Yo can u do a tier list for best solo ranked legends? I think it would be nice especially since a lot of people are getting back into apex and that they actually made ranked good again
Personally I would rework Ash by making her Ult her Tactical but only usable by her and changing it to a more instantaneous teleport then change her ult to some type of AOE effect Or a buffed up version of her ult which the team can use but with added spice to make it better than it's current version
The perks of catalyst arent really perks, they are more like reverting a nerf and perks dosent supposed to do this. Before we knew about the nerf her ult legnth would be 73 meters instead of 55m, that is huge. Better would be scan for 3 sec when someone goes through the ult but reduce lifetime and legnth, and make bigger spikes with less health or the orb blocks damage for teamates and teamates and itself can shoot trough the orb but the spikes dosent block damage, but reduce spike damage. Cat is my main, but everyone has a diffrent opinion on her, cat is very hybrid and that is the problem. You can play her offensive and defesnsive, but the passive is bugged, you can go trough even when you are reinforce a door when its broken.
crypto superiority this season over other scan legends in my opinion, for the evo farming, at least on worlds edge where the recon beacons are closer crypto can farm your team up to 300 evo off spawn getting a major head start on getting blue early game for first fight
You should 100% be taking the shotgun reload perk on Maggie. It’s insane to me that people aren’t picking the obvious choice. That is going to come in play WAYYYY more often than an unpredictable fire ball.
I love horizon but her ult just isnt what it used to be you can literally just walk out of it or use allmosy any movemt charecter However shes still my main
Think you by far make the best tier lists out of anyone. I saw some yesterday with Rampart in D tier and then the gun tier list had the RE-45 in F tier. Terrible takes by them.
Mangos I'm pretty sure the murder machine passive shows up visually in the kill feed I was playing with a friend earlier and he pointed it out and it seems to work that way but I could be wrong
Seer is S tier in annoying you're opponent. Already didn't like loosing my abilites for an hour and know he's become meta, kinda artificially meta but meta none the less
My buff Idea for crypto: You should be able to revive teammates with your drone. you should be able to throw the drone further. you should be able to move your drone around in the air without entering it, kinda like vantages tactical thing. you should be able to 'ping' the drone to go and - respawn teammates, scan ring scanners/consoles Make it so you can loot a couple items from a box using the drone. think that would make him way easier to play and pretty solid
@@tommypicklejuice9527being able to revive with drone is lifeline on steroids, he's already a decent character, please be realistic. This is WAYYY too much agency and he would be on every single pro team. Think about high level gameplay for just a second.
@@tommypicklejuice9527I don't think you exactly realize how ability agency works in pro play, but that's okay. I'm just glad you're not on the balance team.
I feel like for some legends they should be changed simply because of player enjoyment. Fuse may fall C/B tier, but he’s so annoying to play against. Same with newcastle, me and my friend were a duo trio in ranked and late game we had 4 knocks in one fight before dying because of their newcastle. Really annoying, doesn’t matter if they’re not the greatest it’s just more fun when they’re not as powerful. Same applies to weapons to.
@@t3e_e If a free golden gun+ fast reload, unlimited amo and faster running with ur gun out is not enough for u to get a kill then go on a game named Overwatch where u can get insta kills by pressing the ult button...😂
The thing is you need to practice him more..If u think u get more dmg with his low-med body then never play heavy legends..Also u need to know when to push and when to not push..His kit doesn't have any free out of jail card like low effort legends have so u need to think ur every move..He's a good legend.. Everyone can say what they want bc his ult alone is at least A tier..If u enjoy playing as him and have the heart to main him do it (this can apply to any character from any game)..The more u play that character the more u get better with that character..So good luck and have fun 👍
@@Mr_Tensai yea i play him a lot and started maining him by playing aggressive but still even if im staying as much in cover and push careful like a heavy legend i still feel like in the open or when running behind cover i take too much damage
fuse ain't that bad, i cracked a whole lotta shields with his tactical, and his ultimate is the peak of zoning, like you can just damage enemies with no risk and hold them in the circle until you get to them.
MangosInTrees and TimProVision constantly dropping the most questionable tier lists every single season. - Seer got a fraction of his old strength back. He might not be back to his day 1 stats but these perks make him viable again, people just need to learn to not drop legends every time some "pro" yaps about their place in the game. - Fuse getting a speed boost for landing a Knuckle Cluster on someone helps align him with the Assault role, and that's huge. He can either block spaces off and revive/heal up, or he can close the gap on an opponent. I can ramble on about the all the other supposed "low tier" ratings but seriously, maybe hold off on the tier lists if you aren't really putting the time into each legend. Subjective or not, a lot of points made here were heavily debatable.
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After this video released Apex changed Ash's tactical again: "Ash's "Greedy Snare" duration reduced from 24s to 15s
⚡Ash's Arc Snare cooldown returns to 20s from 25s"
Stop hating on my Vantage 😭 lol
D: Ballistic
C: Fuse, Vantage, Crypto, Newcastle
B: Ash, Valkyrie, Catalyst, Bloodhound, Rampart, Gilbratar
A: Mad Maggie, Pathfinder, Caustic, Octane, Wattson, Seer, Lifeline, Mirage
S: Revenant, Bangalore, Horizon, Wraith, Loba, Conduit
I love you
And wattson is S tire
not all heroes wear capes
Octane stronger than loba and wrath imo, i’m still stomping on kids who are using the best perks, with just octane.
Doing gods work
the youtuber should've listed it himself if he wasn't a bad youtuber
Apex is at a point where it doesn't matter what you play even in ranked. How good a legend is, is based on how well you can use their kit
Which is exactly why you see just as many Vantages in games as you to Catalysis. Oh wait
@@huskytales9839 who tf is catalysis
@@lewis0705 some gay woman
Having fuse as the second worst legend is actually crazy
Fuse is defo a tier
@@jimmydebus3717A tier? No definitely mid B no one cares about how he does in pubs. Watch him still be a niche pick for ALGS
@@jimmydebus3717 agreed
@@counturblessings1179 fuse will be extremely good untill master. 99% of people don't care if he isn't good in pro lobbies as they aren't pros and neither are you.
That's exactly what I said!
Worst legends : whoever my random teammates pick
My passivist loba and crypto randoms.
For Ash, the double snare is not as good as the multi snare. Lasts forever and snares multiple enemies. It's a mini horizon ult.
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Hidden Mirage buff that I’m not seeing a lot of people talk about is that you now go invisible even if you don’t initiate the revive. For example if a teammate revives you as soon as the revive is complete you will go Invisible as if you had just revived your teammate. Huge buff imo
That has been a thing since season 18 😅
@pretaxMTCyes it has
I’ve been playing mirage since Maggie dropped I know for a fact that it was just added. I have game clips from season 18 and 19 to prove it
@@Poppa_Perc Oh youre saying that he goes invisible either if hes the reviving player or the downed player right?
@@serfernjYes you said it perfectly
Ngl I had a ranked session where all I did was play Mirage. I pretty much just popped his ult whenever I wanted because the cooldown was so short lol I pretty much caused chaos in an open field while two teams, as well as my own, were fighting.
In all prev seasons, mirage cooldown is already so short man.. I keep trolling the enemies with it or use it to escape enemies' wrath
Rampart is definitely going to be a sleeper pick this season. People are going to under estimate
how good her purple perks are until they actually try them out for a bit.
Her perks are great, but the problem is her ult is almost a liability itself easy to hear and to easy to counter lol whens the last time you died to Sheila?
@@jamesschaller753it doesn’t even matter if they die when you’re absolutely melting their health from a distance making them waste meds. Her skill ceiling is just high thats why people don’t want to play her, they don’t know when and where to use sheila and amped cover.
@jamesschaller753 as a rampart main I get a shiela kill once or twice a game on average, mfs don't know how good it can be
The sheila is so easy to dodge and hide, you ain’t catching me dying to a rampart with sheila.
@@kingaries3098ramparts are more for passive players that has no confidence tbh and thats a fact
Conduit's upgrades are actually different than they are in this video.
At level two, she can either see Battery count on deathboxes or increase the damage and radius of her ult. At level 3, she can either take the split charge of her tac or increase its range
I misspoke you are right. Patch notes had them swapped. I've been going with increasing ult radius by %10 (bigger jam) and second upgrade I go with double tac charge (split charge). S tier for sure though
@@MangosInTrees yeah, the patch notes were a little weird for this season
no hate this tier list is overall pretty good, but i feel fuse and ballistic could each be one rank higher, and also seer should be d tier
Seer is actually fairly good right now due to more aggression being incentivized
Seer really got his grove back with these upgrades, ive definitely been saved by his tac letting me know about teams sneaking up or ratting.
No seer has been garbage for more than 5 seasons ever since he got nerfed@@i_fuze_hostages6
You sleeping on seer for real
thanks for support, maybe can get behind Fuse and Ballistic but no way in hell is Seer D tier. The upgrades alone bring make him strong af again
Nah man, Crypto is legit this season. Decrease his tac cooldown, increase the range of the scan and Ult, then just toss that drone out and around to get those juicy scans. I'll never argue another Crypto buff, though lol
As a Crypto main he's at least B tier. Having the ult cooldown and ult range make him a good legend to make team plays with more often and consistently
Imo Tim has a better tier list because no way is Fuse and Valk are that bad while Seer and Mirage are that good.
@@Orange840 I like having my drone cooldown basically nonexistent, but both of those tier 1 passives are awesome. Even his other tier 2 isn't bad, where it calls out squads when you throw it out. I could see value from it if I was solo-queuing
@@BetweenthePunches I agree 10 seconds off the tactical cooldown is really good. However the other upgrade isn't that good when you realize you can just ping the banners when in your drone. It doesn't really save much time.
@Orange840 I haven't used the other tier 2, for sure lol
I could just see some utilization as a solo-queuer. It doesn't take long to ping banners, though. You're right
I made a tier list for people looking for their main
*S TIER* - Revenant, Bangalore, Horizon, (sweaty wraith mains), Loba, Conduit
_A Tier_ - Mad Maggie, Pathfinder, Caustic, Octane, Wattson, Seer, Lifeline, Mirage
_B Tier_ - Ash, Valkyire, Catalyst, Bloodhound, Rampart, Gibraltar
_C Tier_ - Fuse, Vantage, Crypto, Newcastle,
_D Tier_ - Ballistic
Octane is definitely not A tier, C tier at most.
@SterlingArthur I probably should have said it was _his_ tier list, I just put ot into the form of a comment
Don’t get how he put catalyst in A when majority of her nerfs come back from the perks 3 tacs longer ult or more length on the alt
As a crypto main the new buffs are upgrades make him so much better then what he used to be the emp range allows for some insane team plays
Seer should be D tier all of his perks are mid they don’t do anything to benefit him at all. His best perks revolve around his tactical which is still easily avoidable. It would have been better if they gave him increased fire rate and reduced cooldown for his tactical instead.
I swear people forget it’s literally infinite wall hacks
@@PinchyLobster Infinite? Definitely not, but he's silencer is quite annoying. 1s of reveal is literally nothing and on top of that Bloodhound can have 3s of full body reveal on 2nd upgrade. Seer is right there where he belongs. He's not too weak and decent on end game, but not too OP as he used to be before and during season 17.
@@aceress2789 heartbeat sensor. infinite wallhacks
@@aceress2789 Seers scan is 2.5s, not 1 lol, plus with purple perk it is 4 seconds of full body scan.
@@LiptonikPL Seer does not have a full body scan. He has diamond and health bar. You also have to hit the player to see him and considering how easy it is to dodge the ability, seer's tactical no longer can be used as reveal, but as silencer. Bloodhound's tactical does not silence or anything like that, but it gives you full info about enemies around you, not in just one place you aim.
Something you missed would be how good to play legends that can open extended crates or scan beacons as it helps your entire team get to purple shields and therefore obtain their perks much quicker.
Can't really argue with Vantage's position individually, but I have been running her in ranked (if no other recon legend is on the team) based on the lvl 2 perk to access ring consoles. As we have seen in high levels in the past (why they had to nerf the storm catcher/lightning rod area on Storm Point) the ability to gain that much info for your team without needing a controller legend can be huge, and as an added benefit getting your team higher evo that much quicker. The team utility is much higher, but understandably her overall kit and large hitbox is suboptimal.
i think you're sleeping on fuse bro, i played him in some ranked recently and i found so many situations where i could just abuse grenade and knuckle cluster spam to either completely turn a fight or at the very least push a whole team out of a position and rack up a ton of damage. this is in early ranked too, when things start to majorly slow down once we all get higher up i think itll only get more useful. he's not like a horizon or bangalore with tons of team utility but his potential to just demolish a fight in seconds so easily is no joke
Fuse gets shut down completely by wattsons ult
@@tristan364 wattson is good but nobody is playing her
I feel like Newcastle that low is crazy. Buffing the shield when u know how to play around it and gold shield with that additional healing is probably the best thing about the perks rn. The stronger ult is trash tho cuz maggie laughs at it now days 😂😂😂.
Yeah just because he's utterly dogwater with Newcastle doesn't mean Newcastle's bad.
I was just thinking about that…respectfully towards this video ofc I would say Newcastle is still a strong solid legend at the very least somewhere in B tier. His thick shield perk and his extra health are the best imo and even before the perks he always has been a solid legend. Also even have a 4k on my Newcastle
newcastle is mid af, i dont see how that could be contentious
@@bubblesnz1059 ih hope you get out of silver soon 🙏
@cuppedcup5048 lol I'm a regular diamond but sure, great dig.... I know that hurt
I've been loving Wattson this season. I'm not the greatest with her, but these upgrades feel awesome. My teammates question why I choose the 50 hp off res instead of archstars because our support will get all the revives, but it's saved our support-character when they go down more than extra archstars have. Currently, I also feel like people haven't been throwing things at me as much when I have Gen up
At this point you gotta just be trolling Newcastle mains lol
Lol
Can't relate he was my first 4k and 20 bomb 🤷🏾♂️
What is your secret?@@PraiseJesusANDRepent
Newcastle main here i think hes worse now since his perks are so bad
Yeah dude seriously though.. he has to be the best support legend that can really do it all.
Correction Horizons tactical is not a good escape tool to heal anymore its so easy to knock them out of the air now
A lot of people seem to not agree? I see so many comments about how she's difficult to kill on it, but in my lobbies she gets beamed every time.
@@InsomniacUN It's because most of the people who play this game are hard stuck silver and can't aim upwards
@@MistBestWaifu lmao 😂😂😂
I think bloodhounds an A tier pick personally, scan reduction is always a welcome change and full body makes them more accurate for the team too, especially with bangalore still being meta. Having ravens that scout other teams close without them knowing is also very useful. Great video btw
As a rev main since season 12 i love that he’s finally in the s teir
I strongly believe ballistic isnt popular because there is no reason to use his passive outside the ult, its like his kit just missing a part. His sling weapon should have very fast swap speed to & from the sling along with infinite ammo, i just know this would be a incredible buff.
His ult is perfect & q is very annoying. His passive is the only problem
If it could all be Grey or even just let me do scopes I would have no issues but yeah it means it's not touched ever unless I am out of ammo
You did my girl vantage dirty this season she is actually good as hell 😢 already on diamond with her in ranks
I know, it's like every tier list he puts vantage low.
They really be sleep on her. Putting her below Seer is actually insane
0:04 I Thought I Was The Only One With This Problem😡
I love you for putting Maggie in A-tier, thank you for calling her insane. I’ve been a Maggie main since she came out, she’s so much fun, her personality is so funny and savage and she causes so much chaos. People hate you if you shoot 2 Riot drills and a fireball wreckin ball is so annoying and I love it. She’s so insane and so much fun to play and I love how calculated you can get with her kit. Her tactical and her ult give so many opportunities for big brain plays bc you can predict ur opponents path and catch them with ur abilities to finish them off
"Ash is much more viable now." - B tier. "If I had stock in Catalyst, I would've sold it last season." - also B tier 😂 Not sure if that shows how weak Ash was, or how strong Catalyst was. Probably both
We're living in a mad Maggie meta and I'm here for it
Wattsons gen can no longer restore shields in the storm. Idk if that was on purpose but it cost me a fight the other day. In other news her ult got buffed. Shield charging/ordnance destroying range has increased by a lot. It really needed that
Lifeline drone can’t heal in the storm now either apparently. I was with the boys yesterday and we used a drone to loot in first circle and it wouldn’t attach to us
Good to see Caustic finally becoming more viable this season 🔥🔥
I agree that seeing all those Seers running about makes you realize how good he can be, and me being a Caustic main that almost guaranteed silence can really mess you up if the Seer knows what they're doing, it's way more annoying than what Rev could do.
0:20 Ballistic
1:45 Fuse
2:42 Vantage
3:49 Crypto
4:39 New Castle
6:13 Ash
6:57 Valkyrie
7:42 Catalyst
8:55 Bloodhound
9:47 Rampart
10:42 Gibraltar
11:32 Mad maggie
12:45 Pathfinder
14:13 Caustic
15:17 Octane
16:18 Wattson
17:30 Seer
18:10 Lifeline
19:20 Mirage
20:34 Revenant
21:30 Bangalore
22:30 Horizon
23:17 Wraith
23:50 Loba
24:28 Conduit
Loba main since season 5 her tactical getting this buff is game changing if they change the perk from reduce cooldown to two tactical a or instant tatical cooldown when she sees epic or legendary loot through a wall or bin/ care package would be game breaking 😅
I think she should get the perk for her tac back on knocks like path and rev, instead of the -5s cooldown
The could’ve made the handling faster instead in cooldown reduction, I hate using my tactical and then having to wait 5 seconds just to be able to interact with anything
Yeah I am a diehard Loba main. Sadly I am not able to play now because of the finals but the first thing I thought when I saw the perks was "activating Jumpdrive"😂... Honestly and the fact you can take both Bracelet perks. And imagine her with a golden helmet. 15 seconds cool down for that huge tactical. The bracelet is really what I play her for.
Damn. Provision gave fuse an A Tier. I actually disagree with you for once and agree with him lol. Speed boost is exactly what fuse needed. I'd like to see the slow not affect my teammates too and actually start proc when the mother load is shot so enemies are actually trapped.
Blood being b tier on the list is crazy. Especially when looking at ranked. If you select the white raven perk you almost always have her ult for fights. Everyone is running bang and digi threats are rare+only go on shotguns or re45. Blood is bare minimum A tier. The scan beacon is very useful as well….
You know what's great about Wattson's purple upgrade? Find lots of Ultimate Accelerants? Its option A. Don't find many or any? It's option B. The choice is obvious depending on the situation you find yourself in based on the individual game experience. It's not a situation where one is obviously better than the other, which is sadly the case for most of these changed (including Wattson's Blue choice), or a situation where you really need to think about which one to pick. It's great.
Former Masters player here, mostly on Valk and Wraith. The last year has really felt like a slog and hasn’t been much fun to play. I switched to Wattson for the first time this season and I’m back to feeling like a Masters player again. A lot more kills and wins. Definitely a big fan of her right now.
You know I wasn't expecting this to be good but I was impressed by just how bad it ended up being.
16:12 i could absolutely feel your pain when you hit only every other shot and kept overflicking your aim, that was hilarious
Im always looking forward this guy’s tier list and content over all every beginning of each season
appreciate you!
As a Ballistic main, this hurts but also valid. The Digi smg nerf really hurt his kit.
I was a main loba for the most part of my time in apex, but in season 18 I decided to give a try to ash and oh boy do I like her... she is even better now, I don't like the 2 snares, go for the other perk, that catches multiple enemies and lasts 24 seconds, it's amazing in different situations, if u alone ult away and snare the end of the ult, run away, most of the time they will chase u and they won't be able now. 2nd situation, catching them and throw like 2 snares on them behind their cover, they will get it and it's a free kill. B tier is fair but if put her on that of B tier
Id argue that you missed a part of Vantages kit thats alot more impactful now than it ever has been. Her spotter scope.
Being able to see the shield level of an enemy team not only tells you their strength, but also lets you know if they've had a chance to upgrade themselves or not. This intel is crucial early game making early squad wipes easier as you can more efficiently target the weaker squads and pick you fights better.
better for ranked play but true
Everyone sleeps on vantage, it’s fine she’s not for everyone. I have a 3.6 kdr already this season with 800 something kills. I’ve played and maimed vantage for probably a 1000 hours and she’s so slept on it’s crazy. Every vantage I come across though is complete garbage tho and I wipe the floor with them pretty much every time so I think a lot of people just don’t know how to play her correctly. She’s undoubtedly the best legend in the game in my opinion, it’s so effortless to engage a fight and get a knock before they even know what to do with her sniper. The new perk makes her jump crazy too, I can’t tell you how many times already this season I’ve gotten a knock on the last squad alive, been able to fly over with her jump and decimate the rest of the team because they’re so frazzled as to what’s even happened. It’s so nice to be able to an assault rifle and an SMG and also have sniping capability when needed. Maybe it takes a thousand hours to really get good with her, who knows.. but I destroy lobbies with her and have a blast doing it. Her improved tactical also jumps as far as an octane jump pad and makes it effortless to get out of a bad situation fast, as well as being able to flank a team in a direction they weren’t even expecting.
@@MangosInTrees I'm not saying she deserves to move up a whole tier, but a few spots in her respective tier atleast. I was kinda disappointed with her perks, was REALLY hoping for more ammo in her sniper.
Lol
@@patrickgardner2204 yeah thats what I wanted too, there's probably some middle ground they find here soon in balancing her
Im a lifeline main and something about her that everybody dont know is the self revive RECHARGE after you die and your teammate bring you back
Gotta say, when you started talking about wattson that out play on the seer and wraith was amazing lol
Mad Maggie is a top 3 legend for ranked without a doubt S in my opinion. Loba is aswell although it is a slight nerf not having purple shields as floor loot anymore. Being able to see those through walls was huge early-mid game as well as taking them from her ult. As a loba main I always choose the tac perk first upgrade
Fues this season is so annoying spams his ability every 15 seconds he’s easily A tier
D TIER:
-Ballistic
C TIER:
-Fuse
-Vantage
-Crypto
-Newcastle
B TIER:
-Ash
-Valkyrie
-Catalyst
-Bloodhound
-Rampart
-Gibraltar
A TIER:
-Mad Maggie
-Pathfinder
-Caustic
-Octane
-Wattson
-Seer
-Lifeline
-Mirage
S TIER:
-Revenant
-Bangalore
-Horizon
-Wraith
-Loba
-Conduit
i think valk should be in A at least. seen lots of pros run her in ranked. her ult can now go over lots more terrain which was a huge reason she left the meta, and the extra mobility means she can get you to evo harvesters and care packs much faster for the shield and perk upgrades, not to mention access to bow, wingman and kraber, which are all must picks with the nerfs to so many guns . i also think the scan is really handy for picking up teams and landing on height to guarantee an advantage in the 3v3 which is really important for taking midgame fights or getting into zone, not to mention the fact she lets you stock up on heat shields. i am leaning toward maining her again. but i could be tempted to pick mirage for the fighting. the biggest thing against valk is how many good fighting characters like conduit, bloodhound and revenent in the meta right now that she might not bring enough to team fights.
Tell me you don't try Vantage without telling me. That ULT acel ability gives you 5 shots back. FIVE. Absolutely BUSTED. Won 3 ranked games in a row last night with her and my bro in Gold lobbies 👍
Yea bruh clearly doesn’t play her enough
That Wraith/Parks&Rec intro was gold 10/10
can someone tell me wth happened there? I'm so confused
I think there’s probably different tier lists for ranked and pubs and also ranked edge and ranked inside zone. This is the best season bc legends really can be combined with other to maximize their effectiveness
everyone else teir lists were just glazing the meta of the pros and last season stuff, yours is actually well thought out and properly tested.
Having Sheila ramp up 20% faster doesn’t sound like a lot but it basically faster than a havoc charge up. You’re basically the grim reaper to enemies who dare push you now
Lifelines level 3 perks are just a step above. I hope they'll experiment with other uniquely working perks, and not just one time use stuff
Vantage is the only legend who can hit recon becons AND ring consoles atop of grabbing evo harvestors AND Eco Caches.
She can get the team to Purple shieds by end of 1st circle and Red by circle 2.
Shes def S-Tier urare thinking about her upgrades the wrong way.
Mmk
No she’s not. She’s fun to play but offers no utility in team fights and her kits effectiveness lowers drastically endgame
I'd say A tier.
The ash longer multi snare is better than the double charge by a long shot, the amount of value it gives in endgame is absolutely insane
For crypto going into the drone is quicker however exiting the drone is the same speed
New castle is one id have higher. I get what you’re saying but the speed is huge. He’s the ultimate straight line pusher. Especially if you’re entire team is behind him. Mix him with a Gibby bubble and they both are A tier.
That watson play against the door with your fence was clean AF!!!
Fuze and Vantage at the bottom?! That’s user error. Those passives alone are two of the best. Already liked them, with the buffs I love these two.
Yeah, people really sleep with vantage's passive.
Been maining mirage for over a year and a bit and this near constant ult is so great in large fights or for escaping
Fuse Watson and Newcastle is some fun cheese shit to run with homies. Unlimited arc stars for fuse and it’s impossible for ppl to push you
We run fuse, rampart, watson absolutely demolish
Bro I have been waiting for a tier list :D
FR people sleep on loba so hard, her tac gives you easy transport between cover, you’re not supposed to just throw it to get out you need to use it to safely reposition. Her ult means you can drop hot or cold and still be guaranteed decent loot, if you’re in a squad you can call to drop back since ult comes up so fast at the start of a game you can wait til you can grab guns and take a much fairer fight. she practically guarantees ammo in last couple rings so edge comps can bunker with her and not have to worry about poking. Idk, the other supports are really strong too but i think her value is overlooked so often just because she’s seen as “loot woman nice cheeks” 😭 Maybe it’s just bc i main her but in a squad you’re practically guaranteed value every game.
As a controller, playing the double pad has saved me so many times. Currently plat 2 playing octane only
i used to play revenent all the time even when he was bottom line garbage, but i just loved his design and tactical. And i am very happy that he has become one of the best legends.
I still hate conduit
Speed and fast reloads for 90m for whole team, unlimited ammo. The white sling gives you x2 on snipers off drop x1 on 30/30 and others. Shut down enemy fire in a firefight 2/3 of the team. Can’t even fathom the D tier rating.
That ultimate is just death to anyone who isn’t ready for a ballistic push
Ballistic main here... I kinda agree with you. He is very oppressive with a gun like a Havoc or Re that turns it gold. Btw, Ballistics perk that "Triple's the smart bullet duration" only makes it last longer on the grohnd when you a miss/place it there. So really the only good perk is the 2 bullet perk. Im kinda sad that he is an underwhelming legend and got underwhelming perks.
We got a lot better this season though. My only wish is that his first perk let you carry an extra stack of ammo for no space on top of the passive since he burns a ton of ammo between 3 guns early on and it makes it hard to inventory manage on him
ballistic sucks because you can only really use his tactical if you are in the open against someone with line of sight.
I feel like all legends should have gotten actual gameplay changes, the shield and battery count perks they added for certain legends just don't feel necessary and feel super tailored to late game algs. With all almost everyone getting almost alternate abilities that can basically change their playstyle completely those like 3 or 4 legends I'm not sure exactly how many shouldn't have been forced to have a second passive basically. Especially when they could literally be that, just passive expansions.
Auto ping is what I do on bang, I thought the smoke was cool at first but I don’t ever stand in it
felt the same way, ballistic is my favorite legend and seeing what his perks were was really disappointing
Yo can u do a tier list for best solo ranked legends? I think it would be nice especially since a lot of people are getting back into apex and that they actually made ranked good again
Personally I would rework Ash by making her Ult her Tactical but only usable by her and changing it to a more instantaneous teleport then change her ult to some type of AOE effect
Or a buffed up version of her ult which the team can use but with added spice to make it better than it's current version
The perks of catalyst arent really perks, they are more like reverting a nerf and perks dosent supposed to do this. Before we knew about the nerf her ult legnth would be 73 meters instead of 55m, that is huge. Better would be scan for 3 sec when someone goes through the ult but reduce lifetime and legnth, and make bigger spikes with less health or the orb blocks damage for teamates and teamates and itself can shoot trough the orb but the spikes dosent block damage, but reduce spike damage. Cat is my main, but everyone has a diffrent opinion on her, cat is very hybrid and that is the problem. You can play her offensive and defesnsive, but the passive is bugged, you can go trough even when you are reinforce a door when its broken.
crypto superiority this season over other scan legends in my opinion, for the evo farming, at least on worlds edge where the recon beacons are closer crypto can farm your team up to 300 evo off spawn getting a major head start on getting blue early game for first fight
As a Revenant/Caustic main, hell yeah
You should 100% be taking the shotgun reload perk on Maggie. It’s insane to me that people aren’t picking the obvious choice. That is going to come in play WAYYYY more often than an unpredictable fire ball.
Mmk
Nah bro the fire ball is a room buster you can just easily reload a shotgun especially one like the mastiff it doesn’t take you years to reload
I love horizon but her ult just isnt what it used to be you can literally just walk out of it or use allmosy any movemt charecter
However shes still my main
I've always thought the same thing... They should have a pro patch set separate from the main APEX public servers patch set.
Think you by far make the best tier lists out of anyone. I saw some yesterday with Rampart in D tier and then the gun tier list had the RE-45 in F tier. Terrible takes by them.
Mangos I'm pretty sure the murder machine passive shows up visually in the kill feed
I was playing with a friend earlier and he pointed it out and it seems to work that way but I could be wrong
RUclipsrs lists are usually all the same. This season everyone’s opinion is all over the place. LOVE IT
whats better horizon or octane?
They should make ballistic holster only smgs and his ult puts a digi on it would be pretty cool
rampart been my main last few seasons and i felt the only thing bad was the wind up on shiela now on purple it’s gone def a s tier
Seer is S tier in annoying you're opponent. Already didn't like loosing my abilites for an hour and know he's become meta, kinda artificially meta but meta none the less
Revenants ult does not refresh his tac when he gets a knock it just lowers the cooldown
My buff Idea for crypto:
You should be able to revive teammates with your drone.
you should be able to throw the drone further.
you should be able to move your drone around in the air without entering it, kinda like vantages tactical thing.
you should be able to 'ping' the drone to go and - respawn teammates, scan ring scanners/consoles
Make it so you can loot a couple items from a box using the drone.
think that would make him way easier to play and pretty solid
He would literally be the most broken legend to ever exist lol
@@f.r3644 not really? No ones playing him as he is so might as well give him some love...
@@tommypicklejuice9527being able to revive with drone is lifeline on steroids, he's already a decent character, please be realistic. This is WAYYY too much agency and he would be on every single pro team. Think about high level gameplay for just a second.
@@f.r3644 lifeline can still shoot while reviving, you'd have to be in the drone to revive someone so you're very vulnerable still
@@tommypicklejuice9527I don't think you exactly realize how ability agency works in pro play, but that's okay. I'm just glad you're not on the balance team.
I feel like for some legends they should be changed simply because of player enjoyment. Fuse may fall C/B tier, but he’s so annoying to play against. Same with newcastle, me and my friend were a duo trio in ranked and late game we had 4 knocks in one fight before dying because of their newcastle. Really annoying, doesn’t matter if they’re not the greatest it’s just more fun when they’re not as powerful. Same applies to weapons to.
Where did you find so many enemies who just run, don't shoot, and even if they shoot, they can't hit you?
crazy how all the tierlist from apex youtubers are so diffrent this season :D
Fuse in C and wraith in S is criminal, should be swapped imo
when i play ballistic even if i position and play like others legends i feel like i take more damage than the others, am i the only one?
It's a sign you should ditch that garbage character lol
@@t3e_e If a free golden gun+ fast reload, unlimited amo and faster running with ur gun out is not enough for u to get a kill then go on a game named Overwatch where u can get insta kills by pressing the ult button...😂
The thing is you need to practice him more..If u think u get more dmg with his low-med body then never play heavy legends..Also u need to know when to push and when to not push..His kit doesn't have any free out of jail card like low effort legends have so u need to think ur every move..He's a good legend.. Everyone can say what they want bc his ult alone is at least A tier..If u enjoy playing as him and have the heart to main him do it (this can apply to any character from any game)..The more u play that character the more u get better with that character..So good luck and have fun 👍
@@Mr_Tensai yea i play him a lot and started maining him by playing aggressive but still even if im staying as much in cover and push careful like a heavy legend i still feel like in the open or when running behind cover i take too much damage
fuse ain't that bad, i cracked a whole lotta shields with his tactical, and his ultimate is the peak of zoning, like you can just damage enemies with no risk and hold them in the circle until you get to them.
MangosInTrees and TimProVision constantly dropping the most questionable tier lists every single season.
- Seer got a fraction of his old strength back. He might not be back to his day 1 stats but these perks make him viable again, people just need to learn to not drop legends every time some "pro" yaps about their place in the game.
- Fuse getting a speed boost for landing a Knuckle Cluster on someone helps align him with the Assault role, and that's huge. He can either block spaces off and revive/heal up, or he can close the gap on an opponent.
I can ramble on about the all the other supposed "low tier" ratings but seriously, maybe hold off on the tier lists if you aren't really putting the time into each legend. Subjective or not, a lot of points made here were heavily debatable.