@@darrenxie3325nah, he most likely saw what Kratos was feeling, Heimdall doesn’t see lives but the interpretation of one’s thoughts Like if someone imagines a combo, Heimdall sees it, so in this scene he is probably seeing the joy Kratos has in killing him (I say this because Kratos in his bio of Heimdall states that he was somewhat excited about killing Heimdall)
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444I feel like only Thor and Kratos are the only ones who are genuinely capable of harming Heimdall. Kratos when he fights, he doesn’t think. It’s like breathing. And Thor because… I don’t know, but get a feeling he can since Heimdall backed off.
@@ValentinoMarino11in my opinion Thor could rip heimdall in half as he is the god of thunder, which is just electricity lightning and all that. 1 thing about lightning is it’s faster than the speed of sound and fries everything it touches. If heimdall were to accidentally even get nicked by lightning, say on his arm, that arm is gone. Kratos has experience with speedy bastards like hermes. Also Draupnir ig 🤷♂️
Kratos got insulted all the time in the old games, hell he didn’t even go after Hermes much until he saw an opportunity, he was much more content to ignore him at the start
@@bigfoxkiYes. He was very calm and reasonable 80% of the time. As much as Norse Kratos shit talks his old self, if he went through all that again he would likely be even worse. That is if Santa Monica don't Mary Sue his ass.
The young Kratos model (or just Kratos without the beard) really shows the shock that he's feeling when he killed Heimdall, like he didn't intend on actually murdering him
fr i feel like the old kratos would gouge out those eyeballs then make a weapon which then he would use to read minds. young kratos was creative with his torture methods
It always amazes me that no matter how the Norse gods view Heimdall as untouchable and hard to beat. She very well knows that Kratos would rip him apart.
Someone else said this in another video, and I decided that I wanted to spread this theory. Heimdall is known to have foresight, which is basically like, he can see what you think (Or something like that.) That's what makes him so hard to hit. 1 of 2 reasons as to how Kratos was able to hit him was either 1. He stopped thinking, and reacted off instinct. 2. He got pissed, and went based off anger rather than thought. It's pretty cool. Edit: I'm just going to point out that I am merely just sending a message. I'm not saying that these are true, these are just theories. It's purely for fun, not a source of information.
I think that might be part of why Heimdall takes note of Kratos thinking to spare him while saying “what is going on inside that empty head”. It could just be him saying he’s stupid, but it also could be in reference to how he can’t read it all the time because there are few thoughts running through it while he was in combat. Only catching a glimpse of calm thought once Kratos had incapacitated him. So the moment he realized he could pick up one of his thoughts, it caught his attention instantly.
There’s a concept in combat sport called “flow state” which is essentially what ultra instincts is based upon, essentially you’re reacting to the actions of your opponent and instinctively make the next move based on said opponent’s actions. So number 1 is most definitely more plausible for an experienced fighter like Kratos
This and Heimdall uses his foresight as a crutch. If Kratos attacks faster than Heimdall can react, especially when he's fighting based off instinct rather than a meditated plan of attack, the only thing that foresight can do is see how hard his ass is gonna get kicked
I like the instinct theory better than the anger theory due to Kratos being in a much calmer state in this point of his life. I see it get explained that in the first attack, he tests heimdall's foresight by throwing very wide swings and seeing his reaction. Then during the second attack, he hits him with a tighter combo that makes heimdall have to block instead of simply dodge. That leads him to the third attack where he does the same combo but instead of hitting the hand, he grabs it and leaves heimdall open to the follow up punch. Like it has been said "It doesn't matter if he can see the next punch if he doesn't know how to defend against it." Keep spreading the good word!
@@pysky4u they didn't get him to do it, that grunt and one other from his final fight with thor at the end of the game were archived from the og trilogy.
I really liked that they revamped the Heimdall match in NG+. Before you just shot him 3 times and the match just became a normal match. But now it is progressively difficult to hit him and he can still avoid you throughout the match. I'm happy in NG+ Santa Monica polished their story to strenghen their narrative!
@h.w.4482 Bro! They inserted changes throughout the entire game! Better phrased words, little additional actions. I don't know if there is a video documenting the list of changes. I zapped through the re-play just to get in front of Gná as quickly as possible, but here is a list of changes I noticed: #1. Angrboda asks Loki, “so whose soul is it you carry in the knife?” I think this is what makes Loki realise Fenrir is in the knife. #2. Atreus when collecting the mask in Muspelheim drops it into lava, and burns his hand as he plunges his hand to collect it, to which Thor says, “expect it not to feel good when you put your hand into lava!” #3. [Not Sure] Sindri is more welcoming to Tyr. “Your Highness!”, he exclaims, “please make yourself at home”. “And Lady Freya.” This shows he accepted Tyr all along and when he says, “you brought Odin into my house”, I don't feel bad about our Boi's since Sindri is also to blame. I felt much worse when Sindri said it in the first play since I can't remember if he welcomed Tyr wholeheartedly then. #4. Heimdall disappeared during the mission in Helheim but not out of snobbery, but because Odin had given him a mission of his own and he succeeded in recovering the object (forgot what it was). Now he flaunts his majestic success versus Atreus' poor failure in front of Odin! #5. New life lessons added! The first in Svartalfheim when Atreus loses control saying, “Shitshitshitshitshit!” Kratos explains, “in moments of crisis, panic does nothing. Harness it. Let it serve you.” And the second in Vanaheim. Kratos initially said (about the mask), “be wary about shortcuts to knowledge.” But in the replay they added, “the easy answers it promises. If that is true then surely it will exact a price.” Which makes the risk about the mask more clear and helps Atreus to make the correct decision to break it!
Can you imagine if this was in the base game. Like if Kratos saw classic Kratos in a reflection while he’s realizing what he’s done. That woulda been crazy cool
I've both always loved, and kinda hated, Mimir's reaction to Kratos killing Heimdall. We spent literally 40 minutes discussing this decision, Freya was absolutely on board, yet Mimir still tries to stop him WHILST he's choking the man out? The big I love is Mimir acting like Kratos is becoming a monster again, when this is probably the tamest death in the series. Put this next to Poseidon's death.
I think Poseidon was really when Kratos started getting brutal. Ares before was a simple blade through the chest, Athena was also a Blade through the chest/stomach. Poseidon though got a whole ass beatdown just for him... seeing him try to run away only to get pulled back in for more was terrifying to say the least.
It's not about Kratos killing Heimdall, it's about him submitting to rage. Perhaps it could be executed a bit better, like Kratos could disfigure Heimdall's face a few more times and Mimir only tells him to stop then.
The thing is for all their wisdom and knowledge, all the Norse gods and beings always thought that stories about Kratos were exagerrated or simple myths. Can't blame them since about 1000 years passed and current Kratos is holding back immensely. The final moments of this fight is the first time he let himself go more than a little and Mimir, quite frankly, got scared of him. Likewise, in the Valhalla both him and Tyr were morbidly surprised that he indeed quite literally ripped off the head of another god with his bare hands with Tyr even admitting that he always thought the stories weren't literal and were simply embellished. If Kratos ever truly lost it in those realms he would easily beat Odin and co, but at the far, far too great of a cost to everyone else
I love how ironically disrespectful it is beating Heimdall who gloats about being untouchable by not allowing him to land a single scratch on you yourself
@@Brute_Studios just like how Disney did Vader's original VO in Obi Wan Kenobi series. Not sure if Disney used some in-house technology for that tho. But what I am sure of is once the PC version is out, creators on Nexusmod is gonna make one themselves.
@@Brute_Studios Now my intentions are to not be mean, but more of a puzzler: While I get how uncomfortable anyone would feel to have their voice deepfaked and they have their rights, this still had me thinking ever since with some nuance... Admittedly, it's simply impossible to remove each one outside of RUclips right? Not only that but others can find the voice AI fun, like the differing variations with characters singing various musical tracks as example, it gives freedom basically so as long as it's all in good fun *and state it's AI voiced...* But then there are these problems where one doesn't like it, other actors could take notice and I always has the hunch that maybe, they might illegalize such someday XD.
@@Albert-rl7txthing is, Vader is a really easy voice you can mask the AI with, OG kratos is gonna sound weird if someone doesnt put serious work into it
I had actually hoped that Kratos would unleash his "younger self" at Heimdall, only to snap out of it again and realizing that he must not let out that side of him again. Actually, yeah, Santa Monica wrote this scene very close to that, but they still prevented Kratos from TRULY brutalizing Heimdall. He went soft on him here (back then, he would've torn apart Heimdall's limbs and impaled or beaten him up with them 😂). At the very least, he should've given the Poseidon treatment here. Would've made him "coming to his senses" more impactful, and it would've reminded the players even more that "Young Kratos" can still come out whenever he's actually pissed about something (like Atreus getting endangered).
i will say it was a pretty brutal beat down on my first playthrough but i will agree they shouldve made the scene of him just beating heimdall senseless longer, nonetheless the double backhand was absolutely violating tho
It’s interesting that people wished that Kratos would’ve beaten Heimdall more than he did. I personally think the scene is perfect as is. 1. They needed a way for Kratos to be staring into heimdall’s eyes as he kills him. 2. It was never about the amount of gore or mutilation that made Kratos so violent back then. Shit, he still does that in the Norse games. What made him so violent was his lack of empathy when killing the gods. Only a monster would brutally beat a man to death, and gouge out their eyes with his thumbs. And that’s exactly what heimdall saw in his final moments, a monster.
He was the best Norse God. Like we had Kratos build a whole weapon for him despite knowing the prophecy lmao. Furthermore he feels like the old Greek Gods, his personality mainly. He's like Hermes + Helios from the Valhalla DLC
@@Eddie0102 I still prefer Heimdall over Baldur, he was just more enjoyable. Baldur was only only a threat cus Atreus was young and Kratos didn't wanna show any of his God like power early on, and even later wanted to protect Atreus.
@@azrael_morningstar Well, even then, Baldur was unkillable till he got hit with mistletoe. Blind luck deemed that Baldur would be pricked with the sprig binding his quiver.
@@Sassaparilla he still wouldn't have been able to kill Kratos or Atreus. As Kratos is capable of putting him to sleep by snapping his neck, giving him room to find ways to kill him through weaknesses.
@@azrael_morningstar Baldur literally only has the one weakness. And as shown, Baldur was getting stronger the more he was fighting Kratos, and that ACCELERATED when he finally could feel. You claim he can "Put him to sleep" by snapping his neck. Literally just no. There's no evidence to prove that actually works for long. If anything, Kratos would likely try to find a way to contain him. As he is pretty damn resilient to everything, Kratos would eventually give up trying to poke and prod him with various things. When beheading, neck snapping, breaking every bone doesn't work, Mistletoe is NOT the logical conclusion.
@@movieclips4449While Kratos was choking the life (literally) out of him, Heimdall got a glimpse of the Ghost of Sparta’s past by looking into his eyes. Heimdall is the Norse god of foresight, meaning he can see what people are thinking by looking into their eyes.
If Heimdall saw something bad, or unsettling when he use his powers with Thor and got scared, we can only imagine what he saw in those final moments after calling Kratos a Monster. The man died, probably watching the worst kind of hell or nightmare he could never imagine.
I like that we can see his face and when he’s smashing Heimdal on the ground and he’s strangling him I saw his expression and it looked like his anger and bloodlust from Greece came back for a moment it really looked like it
This is why kratos is insanely smart in battle, as we see at 1:40 kratos looks at the spikes on the walls, coming up with a plan to get rid of grind all beast in under 10 secs, we then go to how kratos beat heimdall, we know heimdall can read minds, to test this kratos at 2:04 does slow heavy punches, then at 2:28 he does significantly faster punches only for heimdall to block, then at 2:57 he does insanely fast punches, hitting heimdall, now knowing the speed he needs to go to to beat heimdall, he gets folded
Seeing this now, man i can't help but imagine how much more impactful this scene would have been when he chokes heimdall out if, when the camera panned around it was suddenly younger kratos with the old look, the stormy sky above him, from right after he killed Zeus, if even for a moment.
Seriously tho, he knew the man killed the entire pantheon of gods at the absolute pinnacle of physical physique and magical power. Even if he wasn't as ferocious as he once was, what made him think he ever stood a chance?
Same thing that makes a lot of people do foolish things: ego. He clearly saw himself as superior to all those Greek gods, seeing as he clearly thought he was superior to Kratos, who killed them. He thought himself untouchable.
A neat detail I noticed in the Heimdall fight is that if you block the kick he does before the death scene, Kratos will block the hit then proceed to kill. Idk if I’m tripping but it’s happened before
Theres something about the Kratos original skin that makes the death seen even more personal. Without the beard we can see the anger in Kratos face more clearly. And it just shows how far Kratos will go to protect Atreus
In my opinion, if they were going to introduce Young Kratos into the game, they should have reinstated his youthful physique. Although he does resemble Kratos to some extent, it is worth noting that this version of Young Kratos is not based on the one from the third game, where Kratos was modeled after and voiced by Terrence C. Carson. Instead, this young Kratos is a reimagining of what Christopher Judge's Kratos might have looked like. However, it is interesting to see that Kratos still retains his broader and more aged physique, which makes it look both strangely accurate and inaccurate at the same time. Nevertheless, I must admit that I might be biased because the original God of War Kratos was slimmer, taller, and more proportionate, representing a younger and more active version of himself from the past. Nevertheless, it is still a pretty cool DLC feature.
Heimdall: I'm going to find that little mongrel of yours and beat his face into a pulp! Also Heimdall: **IMMEDIATELY gets his face beaten into a pulp**
Got to hand it to Heimdall, for a guy who'd never been hit, never had a fair fight, he took it like a champ. He didn't realize he was vulnerable and then run away like a spoiled Prince. He stayed, he fought, and when he was given a chance to live, but with his tail between his legs, he died like a man, fighting. He was actually respectable in that regard.
I disagree. He was given an option to yield, continue to live and redeem himself. Instead, he let his ego get the better of him. His death absolutely could’ve been avoided if he didn’t get too full of himself. He didn’t die with honor, in my personal opinion
@@voids4818Redeem himself? Remember, Kratos is only the "Good guy" because you've been watching his story. From the other guys perspective, Kratos is the bad guy, and he himself doesn't need redeeming. So he still stuck to his guns, and still chose death over defeat. That makes him honorable.
@@mr.mediocregamer9653 hey man, the game makes it pretty clear that Heimdall is objectively a bad person. He is Odin’s lapdog after all. It doesn’t matter if he thinks he’s doing the right thing, he absolutely could’ve done the actual right thing and let it go. But as it so happens, his ego gets the better of him and gets him killed. Don’t feel like I’m attacking you either man, just seeing it from a different perspective
@@voids4818 Kratos used a woman to gum up the gears of a gate, just to hold it open. A living woman sacrificed for a gate. Then he killed every God and doomed his entire "Lands" or "Realm" to extinction. Every man, woman and child, dead. Drowned in the ocean. And he's the good guy compared to Odin? No. Again, Heimdall was cocky, rude, but he didn't genocide an entire planet. Kratos did. Compared to that, Heimdall is a school boy.
If this was young Kratos, he would have taken the eyes out of Heimdall and put one in his eye to tell future attacks and freeze time with. Or he would have just taken Heimdall’s head and used it for foresight, and time manipulation
I know I'm 5 months late, but I gotta say that I absolutely love the perfect timing of the ending, where IMMEDIATELY after saying he'll beat Atreus' face into a pulp, Kratos comes THIS close to quite literally doing the same thing to him.
for anyone who is confused on how to get the new spartan rage and armor in the base game, open the chest at any of the shops and itll give you all of it
I absolutely love how the fight with Thor played out. Im still unsure if Thor killed Kratos or Just knocked him out. Whatever it was, i do believe it was because Kratos was holding back. He does say thats the hardest hes been hit. But, Seeing how he tanks a few more hits like that in the last fight. Im guessing it was just a knock out.
@@Ayyothatsbrandogaming from what I'm seeing on Google you're right. (You just got it backwards a little.) Loading screen first then he shocks em lol. (Google )- Kratos died in the Thor fight at the very beginning of the game," said Sophos. "He was going to die and it wasn't a permanent death... [but] he would get pulled out of Hel essentially by Atreus but now 20 years have passed. so either way he was supposed to die.
Some people thought that was put in the first Thor fight bc it fulfills the prophecy that Kratos will fight Thor and die before the rest of the game unfolds. This is why the last Thor fight doesn't end how it was fortold, bc the fortelling was about the first fight.
The way you make Heimdal back up and bait him into the floor spears is amazingly tactical and efficant, much like how old Kratos would fight. I think young, crazed kratos could still beat heimdall high diff through brute force, but Old, calm kratos low/mid diff's at worst. Amazing writing and game design
@@bonerprime4010 I don't think the spear is blinding him. It is a concussive blast, likely of air as wind is the aspect of the Draupnir Spear. More of a "make that brain jiggle" situation.
@@Sassaparilla yeah I agree, I think it’s almost like a flash bang, it just fucks his senses up to make it much easier to hit him. Helios head would surely do the same by blinding him for a short time and GOW3 kratos is a lot faster because of his Jordan’s too
oh wow. i just realized that heimdall's eyes isn't actually "glowy purple". when i looked closely when he died, his eyes are actually normal, before i thought is eyes turned completely blacked because of his death
Real talk, I never noticed this, but when Freya shoots Heimdall, he catches the arrow. But now one hand is on the reins and one hand is holding an arrow. Why doesn’t she shoot again? I know he’ll probably do a crazy dodge but hey, she tried to shoot him knowing his skill why not try with hands full.
@@Sassaparilla well it was completely shattered at the end of GoW 3, I just wish it was a cosmetic in NG+ or something cuz we already got young Kratos and the blade of Olympus so why not?
Игры
God of Foresight
Foreskin* 💀💀
more like God of Poorsight
God of hindsight
Maybe challenging a god of war wasnt a best idea
No shot lmao
Minor spelling mistake 🌍💥
If this truly was Greek Kratos, Heimdall's death would not have been this lenient.
Idk bro he got his arm blown off and face smashed in
bro hes lucky that that was it
100% he would take a leg off and smack Heimdall's head into jelly.
Old Kratos would have given him the Helios treatment
@@lordlamontF nah, considering Heimdall's all about "seeing" shit and such, i feel like he would deserve the Poseidon treatment.
Man I never realized how much Kratos' skin has faded. Young Kratos is really vibrant.
I don't know about that. It wasn't so cartoonish white in God of War 3.
@@luizmarinho6138 god of war 3 takes place atleast a few years after gow 1 lol
which is probably a good thing, his past is slowly letting go of him
Cory Barlog confirmed the ashes are slowly fading
It's intentional
If the "calm and reasonable" old Kratos lost the patience and ended up killing him...
I don't even want to imagine what the young Kratos would do.
Mortal Kombat fatality-level death
He would've stabbed all of Heimdall's limbs with the spear before blowing them up
@thiagoalbornoz5062 *old GoW music intensifies*
he'll somehow take his foresight and use it as a weapon
I imagine a mix of Poseidon, Theseus and Hercules
Seeing the light in Heimdall's eyes go out just before he dies still gives me chills.
He was reading Kratos and interpreted what he saw in Kratos’s memories. Imagine seeing the horrifying memories right before you die.
@@jihigh482 tf are you waffling about? heimdall's eyes were glowing, when he died, the glow went out
@@linkshunter608Just before dying heimdell called kartos Monster. He saw his ruthless old self.
@@darrenxie3325nah, he most likely saw what Kratos was feeling, Heimdall doesn’t see lives but the interpretation of one’s thoughts
Like if someone imagines a combo, Heimdall sees it, so in this scene he is probably seeing the joy Kratos has in killing him (I say this because Kratos in his bio of Heimdall states that he was somewhat excited about killing Heimdall)
@@Blake2X4 seriously? But he was so reluctant to kill him! He gave him a chance to live and everything!
When Freya said "Heimdall" you can feel like she is barely holding herself back from ripping him apart
@@wellard2kill905 Can't say for sure. Maybe with a proper weapon she CAN take him down.
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444The only weapon she has that can take him down is between her legs……Ah, I see the Circle ⭕️ button on top of her head….
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444I feel like only Thor and Kratos are the only ones who are genuinely capable of harming Heimdall.
Kratos when he fights, he doesn’t think. It’s like breathing.
And Thor because… I don’t know, but get a feeling he can since Heimdall backed off.
@@ValentinoMarino11in my opinion Thor could rip heimdall in half as he is the god of thunder, which is just electricity lightning and all that. 1 thing about lightning is it’s faster than the speed of sound and fries everything it touches. If heimdall were to accidentally even get nicked by lightning, say on his arm, that arm is gone. Kratos has experience with speedy bastards like hermes. Also Draupnir ig 🤷♂️
@@ValentinoMarino11 or tyr. He did well when fighting kratos. He could be Heimdall.
it's so weird seeing young kratos get these insults without shredding whoever said them
Kratos got insulted all the time in the old games, hell he didn’t even go after Hermes much until he saw an opportunity, he was much more content to ignore him at the start
@@KruggKruscherpHe even said "catching a fly from Zues's ass is not worth my time" Which shows how Kratos is a calm and reasonable person.
@@goldngamer1365 Yeah, and Hera was just talking MAD shit and he walked past her, until she hit him right in the Pandora and his PTSD rage took over.
@@goldngamer1365 But was he a calm and reasonable man?
@@bigfoxkiYes. He was very calm and reasonable 80% of the time. As much as Norse Kratos shit talks his old self, if he went through all that again he would likely be even worse. That is if Santa Monica don't Mary Sue his ass.
The young Kratos model (or just Kratos without the beard) really shows the shock that he's feeling when he killed Heimdall, like he didn't intend on actually murdering him
It's hard to see Kratos expression with all that face hair lol
god, you can see the wave of shock and regret hit him like a freight train
@@RalseiSmoocheryoung kratos would've just shrugged lol
@@FreshPrincex4 he would have taken one of heimdall’s eyes in order to give himself future sight lmfao
young kratos' face at 11:39 is kinda funny idk why im not sure that was intended for his mouth to look like that. lol
if it was prime rage-ridden kratos, heimdall’s eyes would have been gouged out, neck twisted 720 degrees, and intestines used as a jump rope.
fr i feel like the old kratos would gouge out those eyeballs then make a weapon which then he would use to read minds. young kratos was creative with his torture methods
Nah his intestines would've been used as a noose
Cue the God killing music!!
@@thatonemf7081 Kratos gonna have Brok mash those eyes into a pulp, powderized, then imbued into rings.
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"Kratos!"
That death scene and revival from Thor was such a master class! Goosebumps!
The hardest hit Kratos has ever felt. 😂
It always amazes me that no matter how the Norse gods view Heimdall as untouchable and hard to beat. She very well knows that Kratos would rip him apart.
Cus the norns literally told them about it 💀
He, heimdall is a male
@@michaelsneddon4300 She. OP is referencing Freya's confidence.
@@michaelsneddon4300 I think is referring to Freya
All thanks to the spear.
That's how kratos won, otherwise he'd be hitting air.
Someone else said this in another video, and I decided that I wanted to spread this theory.
Heimdall is known to have foresight, which is basically like, he can see what you think (Or something like that.) That's what makes him so hard to hit.
1 of 2 reasons as to how Kratos was able to hit him was either
1. He stopped thinking, and reacted off instinct.
2. He got pissed, and went based off anger rather than thought.
It's pretty cool.
Edit: I'm just going to point out that I am merely just sending a message. I'm not saying that these are true, these are just theories. It's purely for fun, not a source of information.
Or a bit of both, anger and instinct
I think that might be part of why Heimdall takes note of Kratos thinking to spare him while saying “what is going on inside that empty head”. It could just be him saying he’s stupid, but it also could be in reference to how he can’t read it all the time because there are few thoughts running through it while he was in combat. Only catching a glimpse of calm thought once Kratos had incapacitated him. So the moment he realized he could pick up one of his thoughts, it caught his attention instantly.
There’s a concept in combat sport called “flow state” which is essentially what ultra instincts is based upon, essentially you’re reacting to the actions of your opponent and instinctively make the next move based on said opponent’s actions. So number 1 is most definitely more plausible for an experienced fighter like Kratos
This and Heimdall uses his foresight as a crutch. If Kratos attacks faster than Heimdall can react, especially when he's fighting based off instinct rather than a meditated plan of attack, the only thing that foresight can do is see how hard his ass is gonna get kicked
I like the instinct theory better than the anger theory due to Kratos being in a much calmer state in this point of his life. I see it get explained that in the first attack, he tests heimdall's foresight by throwing very wide swings and seeing his reaction. Then during the second attack, he hits him with a tighter combo that makes heimdall have to block instead of simply dodge. That leads him to the third attack where he does the same combo but instead of hitting the hand, he grabs it and leaves heimdall open to the follow up punch. Like it has been said "It doesn't matter if he can see the next punch if he doesn't know how to defend against it." Keep spreading the good word!
11:07 You can actually hear Kratos's younger like grunt.
holy crap good catch hahha
That's actually Thor's
@@crazypopcorn7801no, that is TC Carson
@@bungasunga6169if they were able to get TC Carson to do one grunt, I wonder why he couldn’t voice young Kratos is the visions from helheim
@@pysky4u they didn't get him to do it, that grunt and one other from his final fight with thor at the end of the game were archived from the og trilogy.
I really liked that they revamped the Heimdall match in NG+. Before you just shot him 3 times and the match just became a normal match. But now it is progressively difficult to hit him and he can still avoid you throughout the match. I'm happy in NG+ Santa Monica polished their story to strenghen their narrative!
did they change a lot of things like that to better fit the story besides in just the heimdall fight?
@h.w.4482 Bro! They inserted changes throughout the entire game! Better phrased words, little additional actions. I don't know if there is a video documenting the list of changes. I zapped through the re-play just to get in front of Gná as quickly as possible, but here is a list of changes I noticed:
#1. Angrboda asks Loki, “so whose soul is it you carry in the knife?” I think this is what makes Loki realise Fenrir is in the knife.
#2. Atreus when collecting the mask in Muspelheim drops it into lava, and burns his hand as he plunges his hand to collect it, to which Thor says, “expect it not to feel good when you put your hand into lava!”
#3. [Not Sure] Sindri is more welcoming to Tyr. “Your Highness!”, he exclaims, “please make yourself at home”. “And Lady Freya.” This shows he accepted Tyr all along and when he says, “you brought Odin into my house”, I don't feel bad about our Boi's since Sindri is also to blame. I felt much worse when Sindri said it in the first play since I can't remember if he welcomed Tyr wholeheartedly then.
#4. Heimdall disappeared during the mission in Helheim but not out of snobbery, but because Odin had given him a mission of his own and he succeeded in recovering the object (forgot what it was). Now he flaunts his majestic success versus Atreus' poor failure in front of Odin!
#5. New life lessons added! The first in Svartalfheim when Atreus loses control saying, “Shitshitshitshitshit!” Kratos explains, “in moments of crisis, panic does nothing. Harness it. Let it serve you.” And the second in Vanaheim. Kratos initially said (about the mask), “be wary about shortcuts to knowledge.” But in the replay they added, “the easy answers it promises. If that is true then surely it will exact a price.” Which makes the risk about the mask more clear and helps Atreus to make the correct decision to break it!
@@oosmanbeekawoothis was all in the base game
@@oosmanbeekawoothis was all In the base game you silly goose
@@dantehernandez7940 Sorry! Yeah, so I checked! 😅
Younger kratos is definately terrifying.
11:08 the grunt kratos did there sounded like young kratos
He entered his calm and reasonable state for a moment
Thor: "Was hoping to see your Blades..."
Kratos: *Is already using his Blades*
😂
Can you imagine if this was in the base game. Like if Kratos saw classic Kratos in a reflection while he’s realizing what he’s done. That woulda been crazy cool
Woulda been too on the nose imo, nice idea tho
Like with MGS:V with Venom Snake, everyone sees him as a Hero but Snake sees himself as a Demon.
"God of Foreskin" 💀💀💀💀
I've both always loved, and kinda hated, Mimir's reaction to Kratos killing Heimdall. We spent literally 40 minutes discussing this decision, Freya was absolutely on board, yet Mimir still tries to stop him WHILST he's choking the man out? The big I love is Mimir acting like Kratos is becoming a monster again, when this is probably the tamest death in the series. Put this next to Poseidon's death.
I think Poseidon was really when Kratos started getting brutal. Ares before was a simple blade through the chest, Athena was also a Blade through the chest/stomach. Poseidon though got a whole ass beatdown just for him... seeing him try to run away only to get pulled back in for more was terrifying to say the least.
I mean, Poseidon's death is racially motivated.
It's not about Kratos killing Heimdall, it's about him submitting to rage. Perhaps it could be executed a bit better, like Kratos could disfigure Heimdall's face a few more times and Mimir only tells him to stop then.
The thing is for all their wisdom and knowledge, all the Norse gods and beings always thought that stories about Kratos were exagerrated or simple myths. Can't blame them since about 1000 years passed and current Kratos is holding back immensely. The final moments of this fight is the first time he let himself go more than a little and Mimir, quite frankly, got scared of him. Likewise, in the Valhalla both him and Tyr were morbidly surprised that he indeed quite literally ripped off the head of another god with his bare hands with Tyr even admitting that he always thought the stories weren't literal and were simply embellished. If Kratos ever truly lost it in those realms he would easily beat Odin and co, but at the far, far too great of a cost to everyone else
Bro nobody becomes monster by committing bigger crime it always seeds from smaller so stfu ,
Imagine having the Golden Fleece as a shield 🤯
That would've been sick
Imagine the blades of athena or exile as a skin
@@Misosalty683my thoughts exactly the could have done alot of unlockable appearances
the problem is that they have to redo the entire animation because the fleece is on his right shoulder not left arm like shield
@@kratosgow342 yes but it isn't a heavy thing it just a arm switch and skin
Damn yall notice how heimdall eyes went from glowing purple to human when he died?
I noticed too is it a new detail that they added
@@GOW_is_Peakits not new it was even before
Oh wow didn't realize that, thanks.
@@master_of_glaivesreally? I don't remember seeing his human eyes, I just remember them being all black after the glow died out
@@itriyum You couldn't see his eyes very good cuz it was dark, they were there on launch
I love how ironically disrespectful it is beating Heimdall who gloats about being untouchable by not allowing him to land a single scratch on you yourself
They should have a voiceover with TC Carson. They probably won’t though
Maybe if the VA for og Kratos was ok with it, someone could deepfake his voice
@@Brute_Studios just like how Disney did Vader's original VO in Obi Wan Kenobi series. Not sure if Disney used some in-house technology for that tho.
But what I am sure of is once the PC version is out, creators on Nexusmod is gonna make one themselves.
@@Brute_Studios Now my intentions are to not be mean, but more of a puzzler: While I get how uncomfortable anyone would feel to have their voice deepfaked and they have their rights, this still had me thinking ever since with some nuance... Admittedly, it's simply impossible to remove each one outside of RUclips right? Not only that but others can find the voice AI fun, like the differing variations with characters singing various musical tracks as example, it gives freedom basically so as long as it's all in good fun *and state it's AI voiced...* But then there are these problems where one doesn't like it, other actors could take notice and I always has the hunch that maybe, they might illegalize such someday XD.
@@Albert-rl7txthing is, Vader is a really easy voice you can mask the AI with, OG kratos is gonna sound weird if someone doesnt put serious work into it
You want the whole game dialogue to be done by Carson just to match a skin? Not gonna happen.
I had actually hoped that Kratos would unleash his "younger self" at Heimdall, only to snap out of it again and realizing that he must not let out that side of him again. Actually, yeah, Santa Monica wrote this scene very close to that, but they still prevented Kratos from TRULY brutalizing Heimdall. He went soft on him here (back then, he would've torn apart Heimdall's limbs and impaled or beaten him up with them 😂). At the very least, he should've given the Poseidon treatment here. Would've made him "coming to his senses" more impactful, and it would've reminded the players even more that "Young Kratos" can still come out whenever he's actually pissed about something (like Atreus getting endangered).
i will say it was a pretty brutal beat down on my first playthrough but i will agree they shouldve made the scene of him just beating heimdall senseless longer, nonetheless the double backhand was absolutely violating tho
It’s interesting that people wished that Kratos would’ve beaten Heimdall more than he did. I personally think the scene is perfect as is. 1. They needed a way for Kratos to be staring into heimdall’s eyes as he kills him. 2. It was never about the amount of gore or mutilation that made Kratos so violent back then. Shit, he still does that in the Norse games. What made him so violent was his lack of empathy when killing the gods. Only a monster would brutally beat a man to death, and gouge out their eyes with his thumbs. And that’s exactly what heimdall saw in his final moments, a monster.
If someone told me Kratos stopped when the enemy said "stop" 10 years ago I wouldn't have believed it
5:54 Heimdall threating Kratos to hurt his son himself, and a second later beats the shit out of him
Thor: "Stop holding back!"
Kratos: *Pulls out Blade of Olympus*
He was the best Norse God. Like we had Kratos build a whole weapon for him despite knowing the prophecy lmao.
Furthermore he feels like the old Greek Gods, his personality mainly. He's like Hermes + Helios from the Valhalla DLC
Baldur was the best, but in ragnarok I agree for sure. Baldur is up there in gow too 5 for sure
@@Eddie0102 I still prefer Heimdall over Baldur, he was just more enjoyable.
Baldur was only only a threat cus Atreus was young and Kratos didn't wanna show any of his God like power early on, and even later wanted to protect Atreus.
@@azrael_morningstar Well, even then, Baldur was unkillable till he got hit with mistletoe. Blind luck deemed that Baldur would be pricked with the sprig binding his quiver.
@@Sassaparilla he still wouldn't have been able to kill Kratos or Atreus.
As Kratos is capable of putting him to sleep by snapping his neck, giving him room to find ways to kill him through weaknesses.
@@azrael_morningstar Baldur literally only has the one weakness. And as shown, Baldur was getting stronger the more he was fighting Kratos, and that ACCELERATED when he finally could feel.
You claim he can "Put him to sleep" by snapping his neck. Literally just no. There's no evidence to prove that actually works for long. If anything, Kratos would likely try to find a way to contain him. As he is pretty damn resilient to everything, Kratos would eventually give up trying to poke and prod him with various things. When beheading, neck snapping, breaking every bone doesn't work, Mistletoe is NOT the logical conclusion.
It’s dope to see Spartan Rage still engaged for the cutscenes with Thor🔥🔥🔥 great attention to detail there
still insane heimdall is the only norse god to see what kratos actually did in the past.
How did he see it
@@movieclips4449While Kratos was choking the life (literally) out of him, Heimdall got a glimpse of the Ghost of Sparta’s past by looking into his eyes.
Heimdall is the Norse god of foresight, meaning he can see what people are thinking by looking into their eyes.
11:20 The Blade of Olympus has appeared.
NO WAY!
Knowing that heimdalls voice actor is a sweetheart irl makes his performance of the character even better.
If Heimdall saw something bad, or unsettling when he use his powers with Thor and got scared, we can only imagine what he saw in those final moments after calling Kratos a Monster.
The man died, probably watching the worst kind of hell or nightmare he could never imagine.
Quite possibly, he saw absolutely nothing. A void of thought, hands wrapped around his throat with a mind of their own.
@@Sassaparillaor he saw GoW3
Well he didn't dare fuck with Thor, so Kratos would have been the easy way out.
5:56 "... and beat is face into a pulp." OH YEAH? YOU MEAN LIKE THIS?!
jesus they werent kidding when they said the ashes on Kratos's skin faded over the years
he's sooooo pale here
I just wished we had a longer and more brutal fight with Thor in this game
I like that we can see his face and when he’s smashing Heimdal on the ground and he’s strangling him I saw his expression and it looked like his anger and bloodlust from Greece came back for a moment it really looked like it
Do you have a 10+ build for Young Kratos?
Yeah I do. I have save files for every boss fight, but I'm doing boss fights for Valhalla first before anything else
@@nhtdush Gotta get that grind
If this was really young Kratos, this shit would have gone so differently, especially after Heimdall threatened Atreus again.
This is why kratos is insanely smart in battle, as we see at 1:40 kratos looks at the spikes on the walls, coming up with a plan to get rid of grind all beast in under 10 secs, we then go to how kratos beat heimdall, we know heimdall can read minds, to test this kratos at 2:04 does slow heavy punches, then at 2:28 he does significantly faster punches only for heimdall to block, then at 2:57 he does insanely fast punches, hitting heimdall, now knowing the speed he needs to go to to beat heimdall, he gets folded
Seeing this now, man i can't help but imagine how much more impactful this scene would have been when he chokes heimdall out if, when the camera panned around it was suddenly younger kratos with the old look, the stormy sky above him, from right after he killed Zeus, if even for a moment.
The new graphics blessed us with a detailed version of this young Kratos, reminds me of the live-action for GoW Ascension.
Young Kratos would tear him apart without a word.
Thor : We took a piece of you for what you done.
Kratos : Back in my place i took all of the pieces i can get.
"Now show me the god-killer I've heard so much about!"
"You would be dead in a matter of seconds if you met him..."
“And beat his face into a pulp!” Really comedic timing there.
Seriously tho, he knew the man killed the entire pantheon of gods at the absolute pinnacle of physical physique and magical power. Even if he wasn't as ferocious as he once was, what made him think he ever stood a chance?
Same thing that makes a lot of people do foolish things: ego. He clearly saw himself as superior to all those Greek gods, seeing as he clearly thought he was superior to Kratos, who killed them. He thought himself untouchable.
A neat detail I noticed in the Heimdall fight is that if you block the kick he does before the death scene, Kratos will block the hit then proceed to kill. Idk if I’m tripping but it’s happened before
Young Kratos no damage now that is the true of definition “DISRESPECTFUL” 💀
“Do not fail her like you failed your family.” 12:01
Heimdall has now officially fought the calm and reasonable Kratos
Every god of war videos has to have at least one comment mention that “if this is young kratos, blah blah blah”😂
That's just how GOW fans are
Theres something about the Kratos original skin that makes the death seen even more personal.
Without the beard we can see the anger in Kratos face more clearly. And it just shows how far Kratos will go to protect Atreus
In my opinion, if they were going to introduce Young Kratos into the game, they should have reinstated his youthful physique. Although he does resemble Kratos to some extent, it is worth noting that this version of Young Kratos is not based on the one from the third game, where Kratos was modeled after and voiced by Terrence C. Carson. Instead, this young Kratos is a reimagining of what Christopher Judge's Kratos might have looked like. However, it is interesting to see that Kratos still retains his broader and more aged physique, which makes it look both strangely accurate and inaccurate at the same time. Nevertheless, I must admit that I might be biased because the original God of War Kratos was slimmer, taller, and more proportionate, representing a younger and more active version of himself from the past. Nevertheless, it is still a pretty cool DLC feature.
This game is a true masterpiece 👌🏼 and will always be played
I love watching gameplay from someone who mastered the game you absolutely destroyed those bosses
6:06
DATS IT !
DATS THE MONSTER KRATOS FROM OLD GAMES
The next gen young kratos look is amazing!
Imma be honest when I saw all the spear tips in the cutscene where Heimdall would start the fight at I laughed out loud. Well played good sir.
I'm so happy they added classic kratos
Heimdall: just you and me then! Young kratos: *the end is now plays*
Heimdall: hey hey hey what’s going on
If Heimdall is the God of Foreskin then Kratos must be the God of Smegma
bruh aint no way 💀
He is the God of Circumcision
God of orgy
Heimdall: I'm going to find that little mongrel of yours and beat his face into a pulp!
Also Heimdall: **IMMEDIATELY gets his face beaten into a pulp**
That fight with Thor was fucken epic bravo
I love that heindall is basically a child that his daddy never spanked and once Kratos hit him it throws a fit about it.
Valhallas version of young kratos is so fucking badass
Man it was satisfying watching him get folded like that
Got to hand it to Heimdall, for a guy who'd never been hit, never had a fair fight, he took it like a champ. He didn't realize he was vulnerable and then run away like a spoiled Prince. He stayed, he fought, and when he was given a chance to live, but with his tail between his legs, he died like a man, fighting.
He was actually respectable in that regard.
still a prick though
I disagree. He was given an option to yield, continue to live and redeem himself. Instead, he let his ego get the better of him. His death absolutely could’ve been avoided if he didn’t get too full of himself. He didn’t die with honor, in my personal opinion
@@voids4818Redeem himself? Remember, Kratos is only the "Good guy" because you've been watching his story. From the other guys perspective, Kratos is the bad guy, and he himself doesn't need redeeming.
So he still stuck to his guns, and still chose death over defeat.
That makes him honorable.
@@mr.mediocregamer9653 hey man, the game makes it pretty clear that Heimdall is objectively a bad person. He is Odin’s lapdog after all. It doesn’t matter if he thinks he’s doing the right thing, he absolutely could’ve done the actual right thing and let it go. But as it so happens, his ego gets the better of him and gets him killed. Don’t feel like I’m attacking you either man, just seeing it from a different perspective
@@voids4818 Kratos used a woman to gum up the gears of a gate, just to hold it open. A living woman sacrificed for a gate. Then he killed every God and doomed his entire "Lands" or "Realm" to extinction. Every man, woman and child, dead. Drowned in the ocean.
And he's the good guy compared to Odin?
No. Again, Heimdall was cocky, rude, but he didn't genocide an entire planet. Kratos did. Compared to that, Heimdall is a school boy.
If this was young Kratos, he would have taken the eyes out of Heimdall and put one in his eye to tell future attacks and freeze time with. Or he would have just taken Heimdall’s head and used it for foresight, and time manipulation
That wouldve been cool as hell though am i right?
Gow3 kratos is the only Savage kratos.
I love that slow walk you did with heimdall
If this is truly the young Kratos he'd given him the Helios treatment
God of Foreskin, bro😂😂😂😂😂
Heimdall looks like his actual name is Joaquin in this game😭💀💀
I know I'm 5 months late, but I gotta say that I absolutely love the perfect timing of the ending, where IMMEDIATELY after saying he'll beat Atreus' face into a pulp, Kratos comes THIS close to quite literally doing the same thing to him.
Your fighting skills are actually amazing dude
Wowza, that didn't take long !
Also I like how with this more accurate beardless model that you can better see his facial expressions.
It's neat.
for anyone who is confused on how to get the new spartan rage and armor in the base game, open the chest at any of the shops and itll give you all of it
The way you bait him is *HILLARIOUS* 😂
rip heimdall
Gotta love the look of clarity on Kratos' face after the kill. Like 'damn.. I did it again'
Finally Heimdall got the Poseidon treatment
Hardly
Lol no. Not even close. The Old Days Kratos would have been FAR FAR FAR more brutal than that.
what a few thousand hours of GoWR look like
The camera slowly turning to reveal your pre-planted spears was just great
Heimdall: Threatens to beat Atreus' face into a pulp.
Kratos: Beats Heimdall's face into a pulp.
They did such a great job on young kratos model. i hope they remaster on the old GOWs sometime soon
I would love if Sony green lights GOW1 and 2 remasters and infamous 1&2
I absolutely love how the fight with Thor played out. Im still unsure if Thor killed Kratos or Just knocked him out. Whatever it was, i do believe it was because Kratos was holding back. He does say thats the hardest hes been hit. But, Seeing how he tanks a few more hits like that in the last fight. Im guessing it was just a knock out.
Nah he gets killed hence why Thor shocks him and we go to the loading screen
@@Ayyothatsbrandogaming from what I'm seeing on Google you're right. (You just got it backwards a little.) Loading screen first then he shocks em lol.
(Google )- Kratos died in the Thor fight at the very beginning of the game," said Sophos. "He was going to die and it wasn't a permanent death... [but] he would get pulled out of Hel essentially by Atreus but now 20 years have passed. so either way he was supposed to die.
@@oneman9918 In a way it would be cool to see that story. In other way, Kratos already spent enough time on Hell xD
Some people thought that was put in the first Thor fight bc it fulfills the prophecy that Kratos will fight Thor and die before the rest of the game unfolds. This is why the last Thor fight doesn't end how it was fortold, bc the fortelling was about the first fight.
"You are dead, sunshine."
I can't. I just can't.
Most satisfying kill in the whole franchise.
Dude managed to stay arrogant to the end!
The way you make Heimdal back up and bait him into the floor spears is amazingly tactical and efficant, much like how old Kratos would fight.
I think young, crazed kratos could still beat heimdall high diff through brute force, but Old, calm kratos low/mid diff's at worst.
Amazing writing and game design
If it’s god of war 3 kratos then no diff since he has Helios head which could blind heimdall much easier than the spear does
God of War 3 Kratos was unreal@@bonerprime4010
@@bonerprime4010 I don't think the spear is blinding him. It is a concussive blast, likely of air as wind is the aspect of the Draupnir Spear. More of a "make that brain jiggle" situation.
@@Sassaparilla yeah I agree, I think it’s almost like a flash bang, it just fucks his senses up to make it much easier to hit him. Helios head would surely do the same by blinding him for a short time and GOW3 kratos is a lot faster because of his Jordan’s too
im not going to lie, this kratos still looks terrifying than beared kratos when hes angry
I knew it was over over when I saw Heimdall slowly inch RIGHT over the preplaced spears on the ground.
best boss fight ive ever seen, congrats dude
oh wow. i just realized that heimdall's eyes isn't actually "glowy purple". when i looked closely when he died, his eyes are actually normal, before i thought is eyes turned completely blacked because of his death
Real talk, I never noticed this, but when Freya shoots Heimdall, he catches the arrow. But now one hand is on the reins and one hand is holding an arrow. Why doesn’t she shoot again? I know he’ll probably do a crazy dodge but hey, she tried to shoot him knowing his skill why not try with hands full.
seeing the entire expression of Kratos' face is amazing
the shot where Kratos charges Heimdalls beast is so sick, especially with this skin
It's weird seeing Kratos not have the Golden Fleece, I kinda wished they added that in NG+ but man the game is damn near perfect as it is
Considering it is a magical artifact from Greece, there's a good chance it lost its power, so he discarded it.
@@Sassaparilla well it was completely shattered at the end of GoW 3, I just wish it was a cosmetic in NG+ or something cuz we already got young Kratos and the blade of Olympus so why not?
@@bandawin18 ah, gotcha.
“I am going to find him and beat his face into a pulp!”
-Heimdall, with his face being beaten into a pulp
Hearing Dad Krator's voice out of Young Kratos's beardless jawline hurts my brain
i love heimdall, his character is amazing