Nice video idea! Keep them coming! Looking forward to seeing your dark room setup. Now the Shull family can provide entertainment across my complete hobby spectrum from electric guitars to film cameras. Wonderful 😀
7:00 you got my subscription right there, thank you Tilly. My first job was at a mall selling camera gear and the best days were when we got to play with the new Nikons and Cannons. In my humble experience ceativity strikes most out of unexpected results 😜
Hi Tilly. Interesting video! I've never used a disposable camera. I didn't expect much, but it seems they're worse than I thought. They are great for capturing memories, though your cell phone is easier and you can post them immediately. Though there is something that is lost in the digital realm. If you're out sightseeing, no one ever had their disposable camera stolen! SLRs don't have plastic lenses for a reason! The quality just isn't there. Even with glass, the quality does matter. A friend of mine tried to explain how the resolution of the really expensive lenses were better. I don't really understand it, but I agree. There's also the amount of light getting through. Not much of an issue if you're in bright sunlight, but is darker settings, you get better pictures with a better F-stop. And the disposable camera probably won't capture anything at all. Film cameras are something special. The pictures are different than digital. It's why I still have my plasma TV. The phosphors have a coloration that's like the old CRT TVs. The new LCD and LED tech is probably more accurate, but loses something over all. Thanks for the video!
The disposable cameras run a fixed aperture and shutter speed (f9 to f13 and about 1/100s) no matter what. if its too bright, the film will retain the highlights. for dark scenes theres the built in flash. its kind of by design to keep them as simple as possible.
Rhett, sometimes the pictures from a cheap camera give you the look that the more expensive camera can't. Like a $1000 effects pedal doesn't always beat a $100 pedal. It depends on what you're doing.
Hi, new subscriber here! Would love to hear your thoughts on using disposable film cameras vs a smartphone camera. With built in editing, instant sharing, film simulations, multiple built in lens options and greater image capacity, smartphone photography might seem more convenient for everyday use as they're with you almost always. Whereas taking out a nice analog film camera like an M6 feels much more of an experience - the joy of setting the dials and framing through a viewfinder, choosing a nice prime lens for the subject, the darkroom process etc... My Fujifilm X100V is a nice sweet spot in terms of modern portability, hands on functionality, great image quality and a nod to film camera aesthetics and film stock simulations :) 📷
I sometimes go do a shootout where I bring a cellphone camera, a Canon point-and-shoot, and my Fuji bridge camera. I find that I really don't enjoy using the cellphone that much for artistic photography. It does have a wide angle lens, but there's no tactility with using it. The software based settings are clumsy to use, and using a different app often causes stability issues. I have a Canon point-and-shoot that delivers a very film-like experience due to how it's malfunctioning. The LCD is very hazy, and has a very poor viewing angle, It's really only good for basic framing, and adjusting camera settings. You're better off using the optical viewfinder for composition. The mode switch is also broken, so trying to put into picture review mode almost never works. You're forced to take pictures, and look at your results later. It is a neat little camera. It has full manual shooting modes, runs on easy to replace AA batteries, and the CCD image sensor can grab some really magical highlights (often outshining the fancier Fuji). The Fuji has all the bells and whistles. As much as I love using the camera, it's focus control can be very irritating (the autofocus can be lazy, and the manual focus is an absolute pain to use). This camera has a CMOS sensor. I find that depending on lighting conditions, the CCD from the Canon often produces a brighter more compelling image. Where the Fuji really shines is with it's 1200mm zoom lens. It's basically a handheld, image-stabilized telescope that's great for wildlife photography, and some basic astrophotography (sensor noise becomes an issue at longer exposures). I found that this camera really stepped up my photography game. I've gotten to the point now where I can see how a larger sensor and better focus control would be a real help. I have also gotten back into doing film photography I'm using cheap point-and-shoots that I've found at thrift stores. I find that shooting film forces me to slow down and really pay attention to composition. With B&W, it forces me to pay attention to lighting and tonality. I also enjoy the analog glitches that sometimes occur when shooting film. It gives character to the images, and can even complement the storytelling.
If you want something convenient and reliable, use your phone over a disposable film camera:) I get the whole nostalgia and aesthetic thing with film, but sometimes it gets a bit silly in my opinion. When the moment happens, as they say "the best camera is the one you have on you" and most often that is your phone. Still I can imagine having a fun day out with a photography friend using only one of these disposable cameras each and seeing what comes out, but that's about it.
As a teenager I was into photography. I'm surprised people still use film since the invention of digital cameras. Why is that? Also could you recommend a camera , new or used for say 400 or less?
Pentax makes a few film cameras for less than $400. Those are what the film department use at Georgia State. They are a great option. I am partial to the Nikon F3, I love the versatility of lens options that can be used with any Nikon that has the same mount.
perhaps the comparison is not that fair? It would be more interesting to do a comparison between a pretty nice compact with a 35mm (f2.8) against the Leica with a good 35mm lens? A 200/300 camera vs a 3000 camera, scans are gonna be interesting
Film was (and still may be) available in a number of lengths, 24 and 36 being the most popular. The use of 24 frame in the disposable (which still gave 27 exposures) is just a marketing consideration.
Putting 24 frame film in your camera, (SLR or other camera) was common back in the day. Sturdy but affordable 35mm non disposable cameras were once common with people who did not consider photography a hobby. When only used for family social events buying 36 frame film would mean much longer between processing. People forget that before camera phones and social media that for most using a camera was a rare event on special occasions only. Same canister with less film was what many prefered. It was an up front cost saving for the customer, as well as a convenience that there would be fewer months before finishing a film. Now it is an enthusiast market only, so 36 exposures being the most predominant makes sense.
On film photography is about the glass that you are using, I think it is a bit unfair to compare a plastic lens with that one from your on M6...maybe if you try to put head to head with a same category lens it will make sense.
Nice video idea! Keep them coming! Looking forward to seeing your dark room setup. Now the Shull family can provide entertainment across my complete hobby spectrum from electric guitars to film cameras. Wonderful 😀
7:00 you got my subscription right there, thank you Tilly. My first job was at a mall selling camera gear and the best days were when we got to play with the new Nikons and Cannons. In my humble experience ceativity strikes most out of unexpected results 😜
That's very cool! I didn't even know Illford made a disposable camera. When the disposable pictures hit, they definitely got a vibe!!
This was a really cool project. I wouldn’t mind seeing more.
Hi Tilly. Interesting video! I've never used a disposable camera. I didn't expect much, but it seems they're worse than I thought. They are great for capturing memories, though your cell phone is easier and you can post them immediately. Though there is something that is lost in the digital realm.
If you're out sightseeing, no one ever had their disposable camera stolen!
SLRs don't have plastic lenses for a reason! The quality just isn't there. Even with glass, the quality does matter. A friend of mine tried to explain how the resolution of the really expensive lenses were better. I don't really understand it, but I agree. There's also the amount of light getting through. Not much of an issue if you're in bright sunlight, but is darker settings, you get better pictures with a better F-stop. And the disposable camera probably won't capture anything at all.
Film cameras are something special. The pictures are different than digital. It's why I still have my plasma TV. The phosphors have a coloration that's like the old CRT TVs. The new LCD and LED tech is probably more accurate, but loses something over all.
Thanks for the video!
Also, great video for beginners :) youre great at explaining this!
The disposable cameras run a fixed aperture and shutter speed (f9 to f13 and about 1/100s) no matter what. if its too bright, the film will retain the highlights. for dark scenes theres the built in flash. its kind of by design to keep them as simple as possible.
Honestly, some of the disposable shots I liked better 🤷
Rhett, sometimes the pictures from a cheap camera give you the look that the more expensive camera can't. Like a $1000 effects pedal doesn't always beat a $100 pedal. It depends on what you're doing.
Hi, new subscriber here! Would love to hear your thoughts on using disposable film cameras vs a smartphone camera. With built in editing, instant sharing, film simulations, multiple built in lens options and greater image capacity, smartphone photography might seem more convenient for everyday use as they're with you almost always. Whereas taking out a nice analog film camera like an M6 feels much more of an experience - the joy of setting the dials and framing through a viewfinder, choosing a nice prime lens for the subject, the darkroom process etc...
My Fujifilm X100V is a nice sweet spot in terms of modern portability, hands on functionality, great image quality and a nod to film camera aesthetics and film stock simulations :) 📷
I sometimes go do a shootout where I bring a cellphone camera, a Canon point-and-shoot, and my Fuji bridge camera. I find that I really don't enjoy using the cellphone that much for artistic photography. It does have a wide angle lens, but there's no tactility with using it. The software based settings are clumsy to use, and using a different app often causes stability issues.
I have a Canon point-and-shoot that delivers a very film-like experience due to how it's malfunctioning. The LCD is very hazy, and has a very poor viewing angle, It's really only good for basic framing, and adjusting camera settings. You're better off using the optical viewfinder for composition. The mode switch is also broken, so trying to put into picture review mode almost never works. You're forced to take pictures, and look at your results later. It is a neat little camera. It has full manual shooting modes, runs on easy to replace AA batteries, and the CCD image sensor can grab some really magical highlights (often outshining the fancier Fuji).
The Fuji has all the bells and whistles. As much as I love using the camera, it's focus control can be very irritating (the autofocus can be lazy, and the manual focus is an absolute pain to use). This camera has a CMOS sensor. I find that depending on lighting conditions, the CCD from the Canon often produces a brighter more compelling image. Where the Fuji really shines is with it's 1200mm zoom lens. It's basically a handheld, image-stabilized telescope that's great for wildlife photography, and some basic astrophotography (sensor noise becomes an issue at longer exposures). I found that this camera really stepped up my photography game. I've gotten to the point now where I can see how a larger sensor and better focus control would be a real help.
I have also gotten back into doing film photography I'm using cheap point-and-shoots that I've found at thrift stores. I find that shooting film forces me to slow down and really pay attention to composition. With B&W, it forces me to pay attention to lighting and tonality. I also enjoy the analog glitches that sometimes occur when shooting film. It gives character to the images, and can even complement the storytelling.
If you want something convenient and reliable, use your phone over a disposable film camera:)
I get the whole nostalgia and aesthetic thing with film, but sometimes it gets a bit silly in my opinion.
When the moment happens, as they say "the best camera is the one you have on you" and most often that is your phone.
Still I can imagine having a fun day out with a photography friend using only one of these disposable cameras each and seeing what comes out, but that's about it.
As a teenager I was into photography. I'm surprised people still use film since the invention of digital cameras. Why is that? Also could you recommend a camera , new or used for say 400 or less?
Pentax makes a few film cameras for less than $400. Those are what the film department use at Georgia State. They are a great option. I am partial to the Nikon F3, I love the versatility of lens options that can be used with any Nikon that has the same mount.
Not gonna lie...everytime you said SLR triggered me. Cheers! Subscribed still.
Thank you for the support!
A good alternative to the disposable camera is an Olympus XA2. It's the same size as the disposable and far better at producing good images.
perhaps the comparison is not that fair? It would be more interesting to do a comparison between a pretty nice compact with a 35mm (f2.8) against the Leica with a good 35mm lens? A 200/300 camera vs a 3000 camera, scans are gonna be interesting
That’s a great idea. I can make that happen.
Film was (and still may be) available in a number of lengths, 24 and 36 being the most popular. The use of 24 frame in the disposable (which still gave 27 exposures) is just a marketing consideration.
Putting 24 frame film in your camera, (SLR or other camera) was common back in the day.
Sturdy but affordable 35mm non disposable cameras were once common with people who did not consider photography a hobby.
When only used for family social events buying 36 frame film would mean much longer between processing.
People forget that before camera phones and social media that for most using a camera was a rare event on special occasions only.
Same canister with less film was what many prefered. It was an up front cost saving for the customer, as well as a convenience that there would be fewer months before finishing a film.
Now it is an enthusiast market only, so 36 exposures being the most predominant makes sense.
What's the lens you mounted on that M6?
It’s a 50mm Voigtlander.
On film photography is about the glass that you are using, I think it is a bit unfair to compare a plastic lens with that one from your on M6...maybe if you try to put head to head with a same category lens it will make sense.
Interesting! The Leica is undeniable, but the disposable was surprisingly strong and even a little more vibey
disposable looks better imo
g.reat videO!!! Luv u, xo uncle woody