30-something years ago I was imagining our universe as a microscopic particle in a much more complex and larger universe, and it tortured me with fear. The idea of infinity was even more frightening, or even that there could be an edge with nothingness beyond. So I guess it was more comforting, although scary, thinking it was stack upon stack of larger and smaller universes enveloped in one another. The things that kept me fearfully petrified laying awake in bed as a child.
Most engineers don't have to take "Speed of Light Delay" into account when designing a simple digital clock. Kudos to whoever made this, for using such a weird system to their advantage in such a weird project.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Imagine if electronics only worked if the voltage propagation front had to arrive with Planck moment accuracy. We'd still be in the 'Are steam engines _really_ better than horses?' phase of history.
It’s been a big deal for a long time. We have it much easier nowadays. I can just write some HDL and hit a button, assuming my HDL is any good and I’m not being too ambitious with the clock speed. If your signal starts changing too early or finishes arriving too late, then your flip flop ends up being filled with garbage. I couldn’t imagine doing timing analysis by hand in the 60s, even for a little few thousand transistor CPU like the 6502
I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Do you know who I am? I'm the man whose gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!
So I knew that Conway’s game of life was turring complete and hence you could do anything with it but I didn’t think anyone was crazy enough put in the work of doing anything with it
@@the_netherqueen It is indeed! And some people on StackOverflow built a Tetris game in it in the best way possible: by building the hardware of a rudimentary computer, writing an assembly language that they could convert into a Game of Life pattern that computer understands, and then writing a programming language they could compile into that assembly language, and writing Tetris in that. codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/11880/build-a-working-game-of-tetris-in-conways-game-of-life
It amazes me that everything works even though everything is asynchronous (there are no latches) and everything is on one plane. Glider streams that aren't meant to interact have to be routed around each other or else timed so that there are never any collisions.
i imagine that people who don't know what Conway's game of life is would find this video incredibly boring while people who do know are fucking gobsmacked because this shit is insane, well done!
Very nice work. Good job. I would very much like to see a video describing the component parts and discussing how you organized it. Please tell us about how you built this.
Rest in peace, Conway. You gave mathematicians lots of your wisdom and us simple people an incredible toy which can be used even to make a computer inside a computer. Let your name live forever in the minds of the people.
Beautiful. Great job, this is just astounding. Understanding the entire mechanism of games and objects, then chaining them together and programing them to complete tasks that can make digital numbers. I never thought this gave could turn out to be this amazing.
It's stuff like this that I can't even begin to wrap my head around how this could've possibly been created. I'm sure like a lot of things, it's a bit more understandable when you break it down into small parts, but regardless there's no way this could ever be easy to make. If you know how chaotic these simulations can be, you know how incredible it is to not only make a large scale 'infinite' pattern, but for that pattern to also logically interact in order to execute a series of commands. So cool.
I have created many, many, initial conditions, aka rules, I can configure them symmetrical, non symmetrical, horizontal, and diagonal. I also have rules that are infinite. They never shrink, and they never die, they only evolve. Conway’s rule is too destructive, on average, it dies off faster than I can toast some bread in a toaster. There’s probably 50 different rules, I have created.
@@gcxs you definitely don't need anywhere near that amount, since that's millions of bytes (life blocks) and this uses a significantly less canvas size in comparison. This runs in the browser, too, from a tgol interpreter made by the same guy that got x86 in the browser. So it really wouldn't be that hard. Just stick a small display on, boot up chromium, and you're pretty much all set
it's just a piece of excellence in any aspect you see it. engineering, programming skills, depth of thinking, you name it! my deepest respect! Is there any chance to get hands on the source code?
@@EvilSandwich I would prefer to code in Z80 over the 6502 and I did do quite a bit in 6809 code. The 6809 was less well known than the 6502 but only because of the Apple computer's popularity. The architecture of the 6809 is superior to the 6502.
Should be possible to run Doom in Game Of Life if it's apparently Turing complete. Probably would need immense computing power, but I'm waiting for the day somebody implements that!
Okay I NEED a breakdown of how exactly this is working. How does the programming communicate with the display? Also is this what they mean when they say Conway's Game of Life is Turing complete?
I haven't built anything like this in Life, but I know you can built logic gates... and I know from electronics that you can build memory flip-flops and counting circuits out of logic gates. So all they have to do is get the delays right, sending regular "increment" pulses to the counting circuit, having a little circuit to interpret the (binary?) number, calculate which segments should be "on" or "off," and make the change. Many parts of it are therefore very similar to a basic electronics project... but electricity travels much faster, so you don't have to worry about timing!
It means that anyting that's computable by any algorithms is computabe by Conway's game of life. EG It can compute any comptable function, play chess as well as deep blue (quite a bit slower), calculate digits of pi etc etc
Madness. For anyone wanting to look into simulating electronics with cellular automata: the Game of Life might be the famous granddaddy, but have a look at Wireworlds. If someone made an electronic clock in that one, you COULD actually reliably pretend to know what's going on.
I wonder if one could make life forms in this laws of physics. not the "dead" or "alive" states of pixels, I mean like cells that are able to replicate, eat (actually, energy isn't a thing in this physics, is it?), run genetic material, evolve, act againist entropy (it exists in this set of rules) and so on. It would probably be massive but would aldo be groundbreaking
Imagine accidentally changing 1 pixel and then having the entire thing turn to chaos
the fine tuning of the universe we exist in...
@Dr Deuteron or prions
that's Life
Dr Deuteron
The removal of any 1 pixel :::-
digital mutation; cause by quantum anomalies!
Luke Palmer .....like a big jigsaw puzzle?
Or like the 1:1 earth in minecraft.
Imagine the sole purpose of your universe's existence is just to tell time in a higher dimension
Clocks all the way down
Ever heard of atoms ?
30-something years ago I was imagining our universe as a microscopic particle in a much more complex and larger universe, and it tortured me with fear. The idea of infinity was even more frightening, or even that there could be an edge with nothingness beyond. So I guess it was more comforting, although scary, thinking it was stack upon stack of larger and smaller universes enveloped in one another. The things that kept me fearfully petrified laying awake in bed as a child.
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Are you so sure that our's isn't?
Most engineers don't have to take "Speed of Light Delay" into account when designing a simple digital clock. Kudos to whoever made this, for using such a weird system to their advantage in such a weird project.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Imagine if electronics only worked if the voltage propagation front had to arrive with Planck moment accuracy.
We'd still be in the 'Are steam engines _really_ better than horses?' phase of history.
It is a real problem in modern cpu design.
It’s been a big deal for a long time. We have it much easier nowadays. I can just write some HDL and hit a button, assuming my HDL is any good and I’m not being too ambitious with the clock speed.
If your signal starts changing too early or finishes arriving too late, then your flip flop ends up being filled with garbage.
I couldn’t imagine doing timing analysis by hand in the 60s, even for a little few thousand transistor CPU like the 6502
I too sometimes use big words I don't understand to make myself sound more photosynthesis.
@@rr.studios Liking your own comment is rather uncouth.
This is what scicraft members would be doing if minecraft gets deleted
Exactly! xD
Like that's gonna happen
Minecraft will live on!
Exactly.
@@oitthegroit1297 Remember this comment in a few years
@@gatedrat6382 it's gonna last a while
so you're one of them people who builds clocks with the lemons that Conway gives them
when the game of life gives you lemons, arrange them in such a way that you can play DOOM on them
He doesn't even like lemons
Pffft. Burn Conway’s house down.
redpepper74 WITH THE LEMONS
I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Do you know who I am? I'm the man whose gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!
after waching this video i feel myself like cave man living in 21 century =((
pavel v then you should watch Conways Game of Life made in itself
It’s the 21st century cave again, don’t worry.
oh hi yea dont live in 2021 turn away for life
So I knew that Conway’s game of life was turring complete and hence you could do anything with it but I didn’t think anyone was crazy enough put in the work of doing anything with it
Wait Conway's is turring complete?
@@the_netherqueen It is indeed! And some people on StackOverflow built a Tetris game in it in the best way possible: by building the hardware of a rudimentary computer, writing an assembly language that they could convert into a Game of Life pattern that computer understands, and then writing a programming language they could compile into that assembly language, and writing Tetris in that.
codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/11880/build-a-working-game-of-tetris-in-conways-game-of-life
@@cyntheticconjurer Well that was a two-hour-long rabbit hole found via a sub-two-minute video, thank you for making me go down it.
There's an implmentation of Game of Life in Game of Life.
You can even write minecraft if you want lmao.
It amazes me that everything works even though everything is asynchronous (there are no latches) and everything is on one plane. Glider streams that aren't meant to interact have to be routed around each other or else timed so that there are never any collisions.
RIP John Conway, an incredible mathematician and person
"Oh, an LED clock, nice - what crystal does it use?"
"You are dead to me."
"It uses glideronium."
me: makes glider gun and feels very proud (for copying one i found online)
this guy:
Same
So this is what geniuses and mathematicans plays all day long, I am not suprise.
Indeed. You are Nguyen Pham Thanh Giang
I myself would like to call myself a mathematician but this has made me less worthy of that title.
relatable
Not really mathematicians :p
Ikr
Holy crap.... This is absolutely incredible.
Can we draw an f in the conways game of life to pay respects for John conway
Easy, use squares of 4 cells with 1 cell between them
:(
F
xkcd 2293
Draw an F:
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Can’t believe Goncharov made this
i imagine that people who don't know what Conway's game of life is would find this video incredibly boring while people who do know are fucking gobsmacked because this shit is insane, well done!
Rip Conway :(
Ty youtube algorithm
Very nice work. Good job. I would very much like to see a video describing the component parts and discussing how you organized it. Please tell us about how you built this.
Rest in peace, Conway. You gave mathematicians lots of your wisdom and us simple people an incredible toy which can be used even to make a computer inside a computer. Let your name live forever in the minds of the people.
RIP Conway :(
Like looking at alien nanotechnology or something. Amazing. Could you add “SENSOR COOK”, “PIZZA ROLLS” and “4 SERVINGS”?
And if you put some food next to your pc it actually does cook it! From the explosion that is happening inside it!
Two number nines, a number nine large...
a number 6 with extra dip
two number fourty fives, one with cheese
This game always made me feel weird because this is how higher dimensional beings probably see us...
Omg it's been awhile since I heard anyone messing with this, yet you come and make a freaking clock holy lord thats impressive
Genius. If only people could work on this full time!
Larry Panozzo maybe that's what some researchers back in 60s did!
Not exactly the same thing but you will find Dave Ackley's work interesting. ruclips.net/user/DaveAckley
Category: sport?
:P
esport ?
Chess is a sport, my dear friend.
Recreational mathematics is a sport. Especially now that we're all quarantined..
it has been changed now
you have zero right to be this awesome, jesus this must have taken a long time
Beautiful. Great job, this is just astounding. Understanding the entire mechanism of games and objects, then chaining them together and programing them to complete tasks that can make digital numbers. I never thought this gave could turn out to be this amazing.
Rip john conway :(
This literally frightens me on some deep, existential level. Are we the constructs? How could we know?
"Like" for making me question my existance.
RIP Conway, such a brilliant man.
This is probably the most blessed video I've seen in a long time
jaw dropping
Rest in peace Conway.
Conway couldn’t have imagined this when he was doing it on paper all those years ago.
It's stuff like this that I can't even begin to wrap my head around how this could've possibly been created. I'm sure like a lot of things, it's a bit more understandable when you break it down into small parts, but regardless there's no way this could ever be easy to make. If you know how chaotic these simulations can be, you know how incredible it is to not only make a large scale 'infinite' pattern, but for that pattern to also logically interact in order to execute a series of commands.
So cool.
Просто невероятная работа, очень восхищает! Представить сложно, сколько времени и просчетов на это ушло
imagine being a cell without knowing that it is only part of a clock. Maybe we are part of a clock...
Uh-oh time for an existential crisis.
No, we're part of a program to determine the question.
This is what separates Computer Scientists from the other software professions.
Damn. The amount of work it took to make this...
RIP John Conway. You was a great mathematician х_х
were*
RIP conway
I wish I could even comprehend what went through the creators mind when making this
Most likely Ritalin and lots of it.
@@ezekielbrockmann114real
If humanity can make a working clock over a bunch of cells, then a full-pledged working computer completely run by Conway GoL might be possible.
I have created many, many, initial conditions, aka rules, I can configure them symmetrical, non symmetrical, horizontal, and diagonal. I also have rules that are infinite. They never shrink, and they never die, they only evolve. Conway’s rule is too destructive, on average, it dies off faster than I can toast some bread in a toaster. There’s probably 50 different rules, I have created.
Would be nice to make a table clock out of this (Raspberry Pi + screen).
with 32gb ram
@@gcxs you definitely don't need anywhere near that amount, since that's millions of bytes (life blocks) and this uses a significantly less canvas size in comparison. This runs in the browser, too, from a tgol interpreter made by the same guy that got x86 in the browser. So it really wouldn't be that hard. Just stick a small display on, boot up chromium, and you're pretty much all set
To really see what’s going on, you’d need a pretty big screen, wouldn’t you?
haha this is literally what I thought of doing as soon as i saw this!
The most bloated, unnecessary and overengineered clock!
I loved it lets make one!
it's just a piece of excellence in any aspect you see it. engineering, programming skills, depth of thinking, you name it! my deepest respect! Is there any chance to get hands on the source code?
No way!.. we need more videos about this!
This is incredible I didn't know you could practically make functional things in GoL you even have the PM in the corner!
I can't even begin to imagine to complexity of this.
Rest In Peace Conway
Now you gotta make it so that the little squares can do machine learning so it can create the clock on its own.
Even if they had machine learning they couldn't because, y'know, Conway's game of life has rules.
As Conway said, if a machine is unpredictable, it can do anything
And there was me all those years ago proud that I'd written Game Of Life in machine code for my ZX Spectrum :D
I need to learn Z80 someday. I'm a 6502 boy myself lol
@@EvilSandwich I would prefer to code in Z80 over the 6502 and I did do quite a bit in 6809 code. The 6809 was less well known than the 6502 but only because of the Apple computer's popularity. The architecture of the 6809 is superior to the 6502.
The pixels are so smart
When quarantine kicks in
RIP Conway.
Wow Mr. Gorbachev you certainly have a lot of time on your hands
copy and paste will always be there for you even when no one else is
rip conway
Imagine being able to do this but not having anyone who could understand what you're talking about
I simulated Conway's Game Of Life on a Calculator and turned 2D pixel graphics into 3D voxel-like graphics on a touchscreen, both by accident
This man has way too much time and dedication
Imagine the feeling you'd get after you build something this complicated AND IT WORKS!
The animation is beautiful and so damn smooth!
Now that's some _impressive_ logic
This is why cellular automata fascinates me
If you can be anything, what would you be ? A computer engineer ?
no, a computer !
RIP John H Conway
My caveman brain can not even begin to realise how that is possible
Conway died recently.. let him rest in peace.
F, rest in peace John Conway.
Should be possible to run Doom in Game Of Life if it's apparently Turing complete. Probably would need immense computing power, but I'm waiting for the day somebody implements that!
I once built a dirt hut in Minecraft
I have no idea how you make a digital clock by putting pixels all over the place but it sure looks cool.
google conway's game of life, it has like three rules and you can buold stuff like this with it
The best visual programming language.
when you get a degree in "Conway's game of life engineering degree"
Conway's game of life is fun until it starts spelling your full name and address
RIP Conway
If you look away for a few seconds you miss the whole transformation!
Yes I had to replay it 2 times...
rest in pizza john f connway also nice clock bro
Now I'm sad again about Conway...
Okay I NEED a breakdown of how exactly this is working. How does the programming communicate with the display? Also is this what they mean when they say Conway's Game of Life is Turing complete?
I haven't built anything like this in Life, but I know you can built logic gates... and I know from electronics that you can build memory flip-flops and counting circuits out of logic gates.
So all they have to do is get the delays right, sending regular "increment" pulses to the counting circuit, having a little circuit to interpret the (binary?) number, calculate which segments should be "on" or "off," and make the change.
Many parts of it are therefore very similar to a basic electronics project... but electricity travels much faster, so you don't have to worry about timing!
It means that anyting that's computable by any algorithms is computabe by Conway's game of life. EG It can compute any comptable function, play chess as well as deep blue (quite a bit slower), calculate digits of pi etc etc
Madness. For anyone wanting to look into simulating electronics with cellular automata: the Game of Life might be the famous granddaddy, but have a look at Wireworlds. If someone made an electronic clock in that one, you COULD actually reliably pretend to know what's going on.
Is it real?. How could you make full circle without hollow in the middle. It should die because over crowded
This would be how alien bug races would build computers
The hole live and purpose of a race is give the Time, freaking Rick Sánchez
how is this even possible...I am astounded
Self aware anime waifu in Conway's game of life
this guy is a chad.
the mayor chad
wow i didnt even think this could be possible. must have taken so much time to make.
RIP the creator of this
This Puts Our Redstone Contraptions To Shame
Rip John Conway.
It takes true genius to do something like this
I heard it's equivalent to Turing Machine, so is there any programming language built on it?
You know, he made graduate
how do you make the dots between teh hr and minute without cells dying from overcrowding
24-hour version please!
I wonder if one could make life forms in this laws of physics. not the "dead" or "alive" states of pixels, I mean like cells that are able to replicate, eat (actually, energy isn't a thing in this physics, is it?), run genetic material, evolve, act againist entropy (it exists in this set of rules) and so on. It would probably be massive but would aldo be groundbreaking
What. The. Heck! ... I am officially amazed oO