I don't know who told this woman that every man wants an independent woman, but they lied to her face. I don't think I've ever heard a man list "independent woman" as one of the things that they look for in a partner. Not a single one.
The feminist movement gas lit that independent empowerment into women. As men we said, "You can be independent, ladies. Just don't expect us to keep wanting you women that are acting like you're men"
Most likely some other "influential" woman or her friends. However one thing these women forget to notice is that the women giving this advice on what men want they themselves are single.
If you don't even know a single one, you're looking in the wrong area, because I am one, I've never dated a woman who wasn't independent, simply because I'm an average man whos income isn't enough to support a life for two from a single income, let alone a family with kids. I've never dated a woman who didn't have a job and made her own money, in fact I've specifically looked for women who made roughly the same money I made and had roughly the same social status, so I could have a relationship on equal terms with her. Works just fine, I'be been married for 20 years and counting to such a woman. There just isn't an option for either one of us abusing the relationship for financial gains or bragging rights or whatever, all the concerns about that simply don't exist, meaning the only possible reason why we're together is love and that's a foundation for a marriage as solid as it gets.
"Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie, I want, I want, I want, pay for this, pay for that, bail me out, take care of me, give your credit cards!!!" --- Modern strong independent XXs
I've told strong independent women that's amazing that means you want to be with me for conversation companionship and sex my bills are my bills your bills or your bills that includes your paying for your own drinks and dinner.... then I called for Separate Checks with a big smile on my face and said you really are so strong and independent I'm so proud of you she started screaming why are you so cheap? I got up walked over said I'll pay for my drink and then I'm leaving..
And if we were ACTUALLY treated equally, like they CLAIM they want (lyerzzzz), then they wouldn't be any competition at all. They're only "competition" because of eye firm atttive ack-shun, and because they have that special way of getting rid of competition: "He did/said something I don't like!!! Fire him and give me his position!!!"
Dollar store bargain bin right there. What happens if you get into a relationship with her and she decides she is no longer on sale? EVERYTHING is more expensive if you indulge now and pay later.
A man NEVER needs to go find a woman. A woman will ALWAYS tell the guy she wants that she is interested. Victory loves preparation. Protect your money, your assets, and get all of the Prenups done. Otherwise, stay single. My father lost everything. But HE SURE AS HELL MADE SURE I SURVIVED!
Once they hit the wall, too bad Lots of new 20 yrs old women out there The world is changing real fast.... Keep working until your 80 yrs old..... Enjoy what you wanted
By far one of the best videos. The chick saying she goes on sale at times needs to be placed in the defective section. "This item is no longer in production."
Single people have to be their own boss. But when two people choose to be in a relationship, each of them must stop being their own boss, or else they will go back to being single. People don't understand this, and that's why divorce rates are so high today.
This has been going on for years and now that's its 2024 things have changed alot. Just trying to date is difficult cause either partner could be used and thrown away. I mean theres so many standards then there used to be. I mean now a days it's mostly about money.
Why anyone (man) would want to enter into a business contract (marriage) that will totally favor a woman's insanity is beyond me. Yeah, have fun with them, but never lock yourself down with one, because when you do, you're finished on multiple levels! There is just ZERO upside.
Pookie and Ray Rays want an Independent Women, because they don't have to take care of these Women or the kids they produce. "Hence the reason why a lot of these Men support the Movement." So, it's a win win for Pookie and Ray Ray, but a "serious problem" for Good Men that are looking for a Lifelong Partner. Hard pass, because there is no "I" in "Team." So, if you want to take on the world alone... have fun with that.
I want a woman that knows her place, that's what every man wants. Strong and Independent just means they don't and won't appreciate anything a man does.
Independent? Ok, go change a tire. No, I didn't say hire someone. Go change your oil! Go fix your own appliances when they break down. Remember, I said not to hire someone or ask a simp in your friend zone.... I'll wait
Drizzle drizzle, grizzle grizzle lay-deez, you got this! Work until you 🪦, just like you want! Who needs a family when you've got materialism and designer bags to keep you safe and warm!
“I want a strong independent woman.” Said no man ever!😂 Where do they get their sources from? I already can’t stand her attitude or her high expectations and what burdens she’ll bring.
As A Man I now understand what does Modern Women being Independent what she actually Means is : She wants Open relationships She wants Passes ZERO Accountability and 💯 Authority
I love how these women think saying, "C'mon guys, step it up" to men actually believe men are watching and thinking to themselves, "Wow, she's right, I need to do better." Absolutely delusional.
Absolutely bro, also in a marriage a couple is supposed to take care of each other. I've seen it through my own parents who are now in 70s and still do. Seems morden women do not care and expect a man to do 100% it all.
If course we all can be “ok”alone, but if thats way to happiness? Nope 👎 We are created to COMPLETE each other but NOT TO COMPETE 😢 So crazy and not understandable position to me..
I do want a strong woman. A woman that will reload my magazines when needed, can pay our bills if I am away or sick, can mow the lawn if needed due to health or physical limitations. That is it. I will do all of that until I am completely unable or die. And these are just details to be taken care of. The woman should be treated like your queen, you are the king. She does not need to be treated a like a fragile flower. She is not a whiner, always wanting.
I wanted an independent woman. I found her and she found me. Step it up? WTF? I don't have any problems keeping up or moving ahead and sometimes reversing. I like seeing her succeed. She likes seeing me succeed. It's not as hard as this woman says or this channel implies. When you are looking, know what you want, find out what she wants and if you don't match move on. If you do match don't overthink it! It's not as hard as this channel wants out to believe. IF I met this woman when I was looking, I would have dated a few times and said thanks and moved on. I dated when it was hard to find an independent woman. Good luck to you all, but don't overthink!
I don't think they understand what we mean by independent.... We mean, most of us anyway, don't want to be attached at the hip, body, neck, anywhere. There is mine, yours, and ours. You have your hobbies, I have mine and maybe we can share in each from time to time, but ultimately most of us want a little separation from each other now and again. Damn, it's not complicated.
Virtually no good woman has an excuse for still being unmarried after 24. Women expect men to build themselves up and possess characteristics that are beyond their control, but good men seek just two characteristics of a woman: beauty and chastity.
@@7fall : I was trying to be charitable because I have known some decent chaste women over 24, *but* we come a conservative/Muslim background. I knew a "gigachad" who married at 31 and was almost definitely a virgin (though we never really discuss topics like that). I thought he should have been scooped up much, much sooner than that. I couldn't believe he was still unmarried for so long. But for atheists and "Christians" in name only, yes, 20+ is often a lost cause.
The "independent" women I have seen appear to be trying to compensate with behavior they think makes them look independent, but in reality, makes them look insecure and undatable. If I want to date someone that is strong and tough and bossy, I would date another man.. but I am straight, so I don't want to date that. They are good alone, I am good leaving them alone.
Women seemed to have conflated submissiveness with subservience, and needing someone with being entirely dependent on that person. They're taking their advice from an echo chamber of other women who can't get or keep a man. Which is why there is a growing trend of women hitting that wall and realizing their entire approach to finding man is completely contradictive to finding the type of men they want to end up with.
projection is fascinating. the inside becomes the outside. which man has ever heard his brethren say, "i seek me an independent woman?" a woman might hear this myth in a seduction proces when she herself is purportedly independent, but the if the woman is not dependent on the man then the man has no purpose in her. what it is, again, is the woman attributing her desires onto men, failing to complement them.
I want a woman whos capable of living by herself, because if she is capable of living independently she can raise our kids if i die, and hold me down if I'm injured till I get better, as i would do the same for her. And also having a woman who's dependent on you is a liability not an asset.
Their definition of "independent" should be the same as "lonely", but they chose to see it differently until all their friends found their person, and now their alone.... sorry boo. I hope you find your person, but I hope you teach your kids to not act like you.
Everyone needs someone at some point but women need men way more than we need them. Just for the simple fact that men can exist on the bare bones minimum and pay off debt and stack cash to reach a better financial future much faster. And without all the stress and drama of a woman
They got what they wanted, independence from everything. Guys handle their sh!t on their own, strong and independent women always require a man to clean their sh!t. They need someone to pay for their desires and entertainment, and they were free from everything. She's not a lover, she's not a cook, she's not a mother-what kind of unidentified creature is this. No thanks, my life, my rules, my wallet, my FREEDOM more important to me
No straight man wants an independent woman. Then she says she's independent but then says she needs help. Strong and independent means she wants to keep her man on check but has no say in how she lives her life.
"Every man wants an independent woman"....said no man ever. The delusion is strong. Men, these woman are keepers, let the street keep her! Let her be independent and fix her own plumbing, fix her own car, fix her own roof, let them be independent while we sit back and enjoy the show. It is better than cable tv at this point.
Guys do not believe this humble act most women are putting on now. They will lie and do anything to get their foot in your door. Once that ring is on her finger, the monster comes out. Get a prenup. If she truly loves you, she will sign it, and if she refuses, run because she only wants your wallet and what she can get before doing it again tobthe next guy.
What does she need help for? Step it up, “strong independent woman”
I don't know who told this woman that every man wants an independent woman, but they lied to her face. I don't think I've ever heard a man list "independent woman" as one of the things that they look for in a partner. Not a single one.
Beauty and chastity. Men don't expect much.
Same here. Never heard any of buddies say they want an independent woman.
The feminist movement gas lit that independent empowerment into women. As men we said, "You can be independent, ladies. Just don't expect us to keep wanting you women that are acting like you're men"
Most likely some other "influential" woman or her friends. However one thing these women forget to notice is that the women giving this advice on what men want they themselves are single.
If you don't even know a single one, you're looking in the wrong area, because I am one, I've never dated a woman who wasn't independent, simply because I'm an average man whos income isn't enough to support a life for two from a single income, let alone a family with kids.
I've never dated a woman who didn't have a job and made her own money, in fact I've specifically looked for women who made roughly the same money I made and had roughly the same social status, so I could have a relationship on equal terms with her.
Works just fine, I'be been married for 20 years and counting to such a woman.
There just isn't an option for either one of us abusing the relationship for financial gains or bragging rights or whatever, all the concerns about that simply don't exist, meaning the only possible reason why we're together is love and that's a foundation for a marriage as solid as it gets.
It's become clear that most women don't understand what "independent" actually means.
"Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie, I want, I want, I want, pay for this, pay for that, bail me out, take care of me, give your credit cards!!!"
--- Modern strong independent XXs
I've told strong independent women that's amazing that means you want to be with me for conversation companionship and sex my bills are my bills your bills or your bills that includes your paying for your own drinks and dinner.... then I called for Separate Checks with a big smile on my face and said you really are so strong and independent I'm so proud of you she started screaming why are you so cheap? I got up walked over said I'll pay for my drink and then I'm leaving..
I don’t want to compete with a woman. I wish they’d stay in their lanes.
And if we were ACTUALLY treated equally, like they CLAIM they want (lyerzzzz), then they wouldn't be any competition at all. They're only "competition" because of eye firm atttive ack-shun, and because they have that special way of getting rid of competition: "He did/said something I don't like!!! Fire him and give me his position!!!"
They change their tune once they realize, being a "strong independent woman" is some pretty LONELY SHIT!
By then we know they are chameleons.
It's all fun and games until the simps stop paying their monthly OF subscriptions 😂
“I know my worth but sometimes I’m on sale” is wild 😂
Dollar store bargain bin right there. What happens if you get into a relationship with her and she decides she is no longer on sale? EVERYTHING is more expensive if you indulge now and pay later.
She doesn't just go on sale her ass gets put on the clearance rack. 75% off the already discounted price.
You are strong...and independent...and you don't need...no man!
Ive never once heard a guy say they want an independent woman...... these woman are delusional.
A man NEVER needs to go find a woman. A woman will ALWAYS tell the guy she wants that she is interested. Victory loves preparation. Protect your money, your assets, and get all of the Prenups done. Otherwise, stay single. My father lost everything. But HE SURE AS HELL MADE SURE I SURVIVED!
When their leverage is nearly nonexistent then they will compromise on their standards. Necessity will become a virtue!
But never ever engage in a relationship contract with them even if it is common law. They haven't changed. They just changed their tactics.
And even then they'd still bring drama to the relationship. Better to go with a woman that's younger and doesn't have the baggage.
I should only have to handle a child, not an adult, sir.
"You're competing against me being comfortable being alone"
"I know my worth, but sometimes I go on sale."
You reap what you sow
The wall remains undefeated.
The *WALL* MVP
Once they hit the wall, too bad
Lots of new 20 yrs old women out there
The world is changing real fast....
Keep working until your 80 yrs old..... Enjoy what you wanted
😂😂😂tables are turning gentleman, let’s keep pusish NO SIMPING pls KINGS 🔥🔥🔥
By far one of the best videos. The chick saying she goes on sale at times needs to be placed in the defective section. "This item is no longer in production."
I never heard a man say "I want an independent woman" I'm so tired of western women bruh
Then you need to talk to more men, some of us aren't interested in children.
Single people have to be their own boss. But when two people choose to be in a relationship, each of them must stop being their own boss, or else they will go back to being single. People don't understand this, and that's why divorce rates are so high today.
sober wisdom.
This has been going on for years and now that's its 2024 things have changed alot. Just trying to date is difficult cause either partner could be used and thrown away. I mean theres so many standards then there used to be. I mean now a days it's mostly about money.
Men need to be the head, because only men are accountable for their actions.
No, the provider is still the boss.
Why anyone (man) would want to enter into a business contract (marriage) that will totally favor a woman's insanity is beyond me. Yeah, have fun with them, but never lock yourself down with one, because when you do, you're finished on multiple levels! There is just ZERO upside.
0:28 - too little, waaaaaaaayyyy too late.
“I know my worth, but sometimes I go on sale” is crazy😅😂
Horses are strong, but they are trainable. Strong and independent is a bad combination. Strong and dependable and trainable is a "good chick".
If they were 25 forever they'd stay on the 🎠 forever.
Ladies: Now that you're independent, strong and don't need a man and wotnot...
Just go find a bear!
Pookie and Ray Rays want an Independent Women, because they don't have to take care of these Women or the kids they produce. "Hence the reason why a lot of these Men support the Movement."
So, it's a win win for Pookie and Ray Ray, but a "serious problem" for Good Men that are looking for a Lifelong Partner.
Hard pass, because there is no "I" in "Team." So, if you want to take on the world alone...
have fun with that.
"40-80 is a very long time to be alone." - KS
Guys, help me out here. If I'm providing for her, she's NOT independent! Am I missing something?
Male income: 16 to 19 years: $518 weekly ($26,936 annually) 20 to 24 years: $662 weekly ($34,424 annually) 25 to 34 years: $963 weekly ($50,076 annually) 35 to 44 years: $1,239 weekly ($64,428 annually) 45 to 54 years: $1,271 weekly ($66,092 annually) and they don't want to settle?....Ok fine.
Its always been crazy that the term independent aka alone, has become a flex. Congratulations, you paid your light bill like the rest of us.
I want a woman that knows her place, that's what every man wants. Strong and Independent just means they don't and won't appreciate anything a man does.
What……”Independent”…….Means to women…Women can do whatever, whoever, whenever, wherever, they want until they need help or money from a man
What a Wonderful Day!!!
Independent? Ok, go change a tire. No, I didn't say hire someone. Go change your oil! Go fix your own appliances when they break down. Remember, I said not to hire someone or ask a simp in your friend zone.... I'll wait
Drizzle drizzle, grizzle grizzle lay-deez, you got this! Work until you 🪦, just like you want! Who needs a family when you've got materialism and designer bags to keep you safe and warm!
“I want a strong independent woman.” Said no man ever!😂 Where do they get their sources from? I already can’t stand her attitude or her high expectations and what burdens she’ll bring.
Don't feel like getting someone out of the hole they dug themselves!
I agree with everything you said in this video, sir.
Her worth. She goes on sale, sometimes. Next comes the 90% clearance, or the Ugly Box on Tuesday. Time marches on and takes you youth with it.
The world around us determines what we're worth! Reality over delusion anytime!
Independent Men Don’t Need You or Want You!✅💯. Better Women, Lives, Times, Laws & Lower Costs Overseas!✅💯
As A Man I now understand what does Modern Women being Independent what she actually Means is :
She wants Open relationships
She wants Passes ZERO Accountability and 💯 Authority
You are happy being alone. Good for you, I am not in the least bit scared.
I love how these women think saying, "C'mon guys, step it up" to men actually believe men are watching and thinking to themselves, "Wow, she's right, I need to do better." Absolutely delusional.
So basically, an independent woman is completely useless. She serves no one but herself. What good is she?
Ring the bell for American women.. it's all over for them😢
Modern women need to learn & do the Three S's earn & keep a good guy. Soften up, be Sincere, and know when to Shut Up !
Time is a cruel teacher better wake up before you are sent to detention
0:47 - nope!
Absolutely bro, also in a marriage a couple is supposed to take care of each other. I've seen it through my own parents who are now in 70s and still do. Seems morden women do not care and expect a man to do 100% it all.
That second woman in the car is dating a Chad that she can’t lock down. You can hear it in her voice.
No they know, they don't want to do it. Then the simp guy doesn't ask her to, for fear of losing her.
Five. The number of times the first idiot's probably been dumped so far and not understood that SHE'S the problem.
If course we all can be “ok”alone, but if thats way to happiness? Nope 👎 We are created to COMPLETE each other but NOT TO COMPETE 😢 So crazy and not understandable position to me..
I do want a strong woman. A woman that will reload my magazines when needed, can pay our bills if I am away or sick, can mow the lawn if needed due to health or physical limitations. That is it. I will do all of that until I am completely unable or die. And these are just details to be taken care of. The woman should be treated like your queen, you are the king. She does not need to be treated a like a fragile flower. She is not a whiner, always wanting.
I wanted an independent woman. I found her and she found me. Step it up? WTF? I don't have any problems keeping up or moving ahead and sometimes reversing. I like seeing her succeed. She likes seeing me succeed. It's not as hard as this woman says or this channel implies. When you are looking, know what you want, find out what she wants and if you don't match move on. If you do match don't overthink it! It's not as hard as this channel wants out to believe. IF I met this woman when I was looking, I would have dated a few times and said thanks and moved on. I dated when it was hard to find an independent woman. Good luck to you all, but don't overthink!
Yeah well we never required much. But "a girl that likes me for me, and not just grasping at straws or of fomo" is on that list.
I don't think they understand what we mean by independent.... We mean, most of us anyway, don't want to be attached at the hip, body, neck, anywhere. There is mine, yours, and ours. You have your hobbies, I have mine and maybe we can share in each from time to time, but ultimately most of us want a little separation from each other now and again. Damn, it's not complicated.
1:35 no they popping everywhere now
If you dont need a man why do you want one?
Passports! Get your passports..!
Virtually no good woman has an excuse for still being unmarried after 24.
Women expect men to build themselves up and possess characteristics that are beyond their control, but good men seek just two characteristics of a woman: beauty and chastity.
after 20*
@@7fall : I was trying to be charitable because I have known some decent chaste women over 24, *but* we come a conservative/Muslim background. I knew a "gigachad" who married at 31 and was almost definitely a virgin (though we never really discuss topics like that). I thought he should have been scooped up much, much sooner than that. I couldn't believe he was still unmarried for so long.
But for atheists and "Christians" in name only, yes, 20+ is often a lost cause.
Just give independant woman a cat for companionship!
They are all independent until the previous man’s money runs out.
The "independent" women I have seen appear to be trying to compensate with behavior they think makes them look independent, but in reality, makes them look insecure and undatable. If I want to date someone that is strong and tough and bossy, I would date another man.. but I am straight, so I don't want to date that. They are good alone, I am good leaving them alone.
Women seemed to have conflated submissiveness with subservience, and needing someone with being entirely dependent on that person. They're taking their advice from an echo chamber of other women who can't get or keep a man. Which is why there is a growing trend of women hitting that wall and realizing their entire approach to finding man is completely contradictive to finding the type of men they want to end up with.
Women trying to use Jedi mind tricks now.
Price reduced for quick sale. No looking under the hood.
Stay independent and alone, until the end. We want someone who needs us
Independent is Independent married is one.
2:04 - go away
Women were not created from the rib of Adam for independence…
She was created to be a helpmeet for the man.
Period.
projection is fascinating. the inside becomes the outside. which man has ever heard his brethren say, "i seek me an independent woman?"
a woman might hear this myth in a seduction proces when she herself is purportedly independent, but the if the woman is not dependent on the man then the man has no purpose in her.
what it is, again, is the woman attributing her desires onto men, failing to complement them.
Woman says im competing with her, or says, i know my worth? Major red flags. Not wife or gf material.
Correction, we can do it with an independent woman, we won’t do it for an independent woman
I want a woman whos capable of living by herself, because if she is capable of living independently she can raise our kids if i die, and hold me down if I'm injured till I get better, as i would do the same for her. And also having a woman who's dependent on you is a liability not an asset.
Their definition of "independent" should be the same as "lonely", but they chose to see it differently until all their friends found their person, and now their alone.... sorry boo. I hope you find your person, but I hope you teach your kids to not act like you.
Wait I don't need your help? But I need your help?
4:37 gentlemen you’re not looking for husbands you’re not looking for boyfriends they’re looking for sponsors
By the time you realize your mistakes, its too late.
The girl in green can't last 10 minutes outside in the heat. So shut the front door.
Everyone needs someone at some point but women need men way more than we need them. Just for the simple fact that men can exist on the bare bones minimum and pay off debt and stack cash to reach a better financial future much faster. And without all the stress and drama of a woman
These young modern women clearly don't understand what the word 'independent' means.
Talk shit in their prime, talk sense when it's too late.
They got what they wanted, independence from everything. Guys handle their sh!t on their own, strong and independent women always require a man to clean their sh!t. They need someone to pay for their desires and entertainment, and they were free from everything. She's not a lover, she's not a cook, she's not a mother-what kind of unidentified creature is this. No thanks, my life, my rules, my wallet, my FREEDOM more important to me
No straight man wants an independent woman. Then she says she's independent but then says she needs help. Strong and independent means she wants to keep her man on check but has no say in how she lives her life.
if the woman is the boss chick who is she the boss of?? thats riiiiiight..... YOU
And that’s why independent women are alone and complaining about getting a man on social media.
Strong till something over 30 lbs needs lifting .
"Every man wants an independent woman"....said no man ever. The delusion is strong. Men, these woman are keepers, let the street keep her! Let her be independent and fix her own plumbing, fix her own car, fix her own roof, let them be independent while we sit back and enjoy the show. It is better than cable tv at this point.
Those women gonna live a very Sad life 😂😂😂
Men, get your passport and leave ✈️
Guys do not believe this humble act most women are putting on now. They will lie and do anything to get their foot in your door. Once that ring is on her finger, the monster comes out. Get a prenup. If she truly loves you, she will sign it, and if she refuses, run because she only wants your wallet and what she can get before doing it again tobthe next guy.
They missed the point of everything
men don't have to do anything. you keep on doing you girls, and keep single.
No guy wants to sit in a tub. Plus, you’ve never filled a tub anyway. Ick
Independent women are most dependent.
they are independant, aight ok, go on be that while i go other way
Independent women might have been good for me when I was broke why would I look for one now??🤷🏽🤷🏽
All the complaints 🙄
There's nothing wrong with being an independent woman. It's just that it comes with so much fucking ATTITUDE.