Hi David, this is an essential video, there maybe many 50E users out there (including myself) that haven't got a complete handle on the important functions this brilliant camera offers, and there are many. I've watched this video several times now, and things are beginning to sink into my brain. Many thanks for the detailed run through of how to use the 50E.
Thank you so much for a great review and useful tutorial! I recently got Canon EOS 50 from my beloved wife as a gift. The camera is nice and easy to understand. Shooting portraits on film is certainly very different from digital.The sound of the winding film is music. I think film photography should be wide spread, more popular and accessible.
As another bald guy with a beard, a chocolate lab, and a recently acquired eos50e, I felt an instant connection! Great walkthrough for someone too lazy to go through the manual. I imagine the first few rolls will be all on the 'green square' but at least now I know the potential of all those options !
Thanks for providing your videos as a refresher coarse in using my camera. I've had this camera for a years and totally forgot I had it. Trying to get back on the saddle again and get out there and take great pictures!
Thank you so much for your efforts in producing this vid. I have my Canon Elan ii paired with a 35 mm F1,4 Sigma art lense - I can’t wait to shoot. With love all the way from South Africa.🇿🇦
Hi David. I purchased the same camera, if I am corect, in 2005 when digital cameras start go up,up. I got it on Ebay for Can$100.00. Before digitals, it was around 1800 Can$. What a deal! It came in original wrap box. Super. Since 2005, I had to review how to operate so many points. But, your explanation it did it. Thank you. Negative film cameras looks like ganing value / popularity again. I look around, and the prices are starting going back over 1000 dollars. Yeeh, I have it for 100 bucks in perfect condition. Thans Dave. Merry Christmas.
Hello! You’ve saved my life with this video, thank you so much because I was searching for a complete video which really explains about this camera at all. So I just have one question, how would you recommend me to clean it without breaking or ruining it? I hope you’re doing well!
Thank you! The easiest way to clean these with 91% alcohol and cotton swabs for the camera body. On the lens, pick up some lens cleaning fluid (preferably in a spray bottle) and some lens cleaning tissues. There are also kits if you don't have one. Then use that on the glass surfaces. For the focusing screen above the mirror, don't for any reason use anything except distilled water on that as chemicals will melt the micro edges on it and ruin it.
Well done, a very useful video fpr new owners. I picked up my copy at the Frankfurt fleamarket for 13 Euro (14$), now i am prepared, when the battery will arrive tomorrow. Thank you.
I just bought one for very cheap, albeit with the door latch issue. Really cool camera. Can't seem to get the eye control to work but I read it doesn't like eyeglass wearers.
Well done. Pretty comprehensive. Side note... With the 380EX, it will automatically do HSS and works with a Velo ettl off camera cord. Very "under the radar" camera. I like it equally to the Elan 7 although the 7 seems tighter and slightly refined.
Hi! Really appreciate that you made these videos about this niche camera. I’ve already watched them so many times in bits and will continue to as I learn the camera. I’m wondering how to turn this camera off. The red L is technically the off button, right? I worry the ongoing glow of the LCD will drain the battery. If I take the battery out every time, will the exposure count stay accurate? Any tips on turning it off? Thanks.
Thank you and that is off. To prevent battery drain, you'll need to remove the batteries. The screen tends not to drain them so much so I'd suggest that only if you're not planning to shoot it for a week or longer. Leaving them in overnight or for a few days or even weeks likely won't affect their life too much.
When this camera was released it was released with the canon speedlight 380EX which was the first EX speedlights witch had highspeed sync you could use flash at any shutter speed.
Thank you for this great video, you answered the DEP setting very well, I could never get it into my head as to how that worked! I have the 55 version of this camera which includes the panorama slide button, nice to have even if I don't intend using it. I also got the battery grip for it which makes it feel really solid. I just wish I could take out the quart battery so that the data imprint function stops working because when I first used this camera, I had no idea it was on and set to 1989, it was a "nice" surprise when the negs came back to find that lovely imprint on the frames. I have turned it off but don't ever want to have turn on by accident. I can't seem to open that battery door, the screw is so tightly jammed in there.
Thank you! For the panorama setting, it was a total fad. I think it's ridiculous (in all the cameras that had it) because it just crops out negative space and reduces enlargement quality. For the screw, you'll need a proper JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screwdriver head. These can be bought on eBay as cell phone repair screw drivers pretty cheap. To remove the screw, try using some rubbing alcohol applied with a cotton swab to the screw head. If that doesn't work, some drops -- DROPS -- of lighter fluid. Then press down a bit while unscrewing. The screw likely has some Lock-tite or similar compound on the threads (that was a standard practice for screws holding the body together at any rate). I completely agree that the date function on these is essentially useless and taking the battery out is a great idea.
@@DavidHancock Thanks again! I actually just managed to get it unscrewed and removed the battery! I used of those eye glass tiny screw drivers, worked like a charm. Glad that battery is out. I am very pleased to know I won't ever have imprints on the frames again. Must shoot with this camera more.
Hi, where did you turn the date imprint off? I just got this camera and am currently shooting my first roll but I don't know whether the date imprint function is actually turned off
@@IceeaTeea Best way is to remove the battery. It's one of those coin batteries on the right side of the back door. I did this as I was never sure it was truly turned off.
@@ceritat625 Do you mean the big 2CR5 battery in the bottom/underside of the camera? I can't seem to find any smaller coin battery other than the one on the bottom
A battery grip was also released for the camera it takes 4 AA batteries or one 2cr5 battery the battery door does not come off the camera there is a space on the battery grip for the battery door to fit into.
DEP mode works by _compelling you_ to take two focus readings at the places in the scene you wish to remain in focus, and sets the aperture to accomplish that depth of field while allowing the rest to go blurry. Simple yet sophisticated, this feature continued on Canons in later years, and it's one I regularly forget to try. This is your opportunity to have the camera choose aperture for you based NOT on a meter reading. Hmm ...
@@DavidHancock Well, it is automatically reading the scene based on AF data, it just needs the 2 separate AF locations ... if it only used one distance it could never know how much or how little depth you're after.
Thank you for this insightful video, I have this model camera, I want to get back into real photography and away from more cell phone pictures. As a artist, I appreciate classic things and printed 35mm photos are tangible like Polaroid's.
Thank you and IIRC those stopped counting a handful of years ago and can't record accurate dates any more. Just remove the button cell battery from the door and pretend the date function doesn't exist.
So I noticed you said it had no flash sync port so that means it can’t use a cable release I don’t have that model. I just have the Elan ii But it has flash sync port and cable release
Thank you so much for the video David! I was wondering if you'd know if this camera is supposed to work with studio strobe trigger? I tried it today and it didn't work (didn't trigger the flash), but worked on my Pentax me super tho! Thanks ahead :)
Thank you! That may be a setting on your camera. If the flash trigger works in manual mode, then there's some setting that the flash trigger doesn't like.
Using this camera after a long time being left on a shelf and after taking a pic the film ( new) rolled back into the canister. Any idea why it rewinded like that?
Most likely a mis-load. If you have a camera shop nearby, they may have a film leader retriever so you can use that roll again. They may also be able to see what's going on with it, too.
@@DavidHancock I managed to retrieve it with an pin and happened again , and then changed CF to 01 ( not sure it it had anything to do) but now it’s not happening anymore… only a battery check error coming from time to time now
Hi Thank you for the tutorial. I have this camera (EOS Elan ii) and when I put it in lock mode my LCD screen stays on showing the number of pics taken and a circle . Is there a reason the screen stays on ? I noticed when you locked your's the screen goes off ! Thank you
David, this video was indispensable for me. I was wondering if you could help me with a problem I've been running into. I've been shooting with this camera (my first film camera) the past week. I love it. I am however running into an issue that I can't seem to troubleshoot with google (and having read the manual). Sometimes I'll take a shot and the shutter will open (i.e. viewfinder goes black, a click is audible) but then it won't close unless I lightly press the shutter button again. My shutter speeds are not long (could be, say, 125). Does anything quickly come to mind as to why this might be happening? I learned that these cameras have an issue where black goo from a deteriorating foam gets on the shutter. I found some on mine and cleaned it but the issue persists. Also, it's intermittent, which makes me think it is a setting I don't understand and not a mechanical problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I have the same issue; but also the battery will show empty; but I just installed it, until I press the shutter button again and the mirror will release again.
Pls help me, I just bought eos 55, so when I install film Vision 3 500T, this camera set auto AEB -2 so I don't understand why, I did try take AEB 0 but can not ?
Hmm. There are a few possibilities. 1- Check the EV compensation is set to 0. That would be a different setting than AEB. 2- If you're indoors, the camera may just be trying to tell you there isn't enough light. If your lens is around f/11 with 500 ISO film, then it's distinctly possible that indoor lighting would show two stops under. 3- Does the 500T cassette have a DX code? If not, check that the ISO is set correctly on the camera. This would tie in to the above meter reading thought. Those are the ideas I can think of. I'm hopeful that one will fix the issue.
Basically, film is designed to have a certain amount of light reach it. If you take a double exposure without reducing the light for each shot, the film receives too much light and you'll lost contrast and image quality. So you want to use the camera's tools to cut the light in half if you're taking a double exposure. That was two exposures of half the needed light will result in a single double-exposure image with the proper amount of light.
Hi David! I have been wanting to figure out the flash system on this camera for quite some time. I was wondering if you could provide me of some names of flash mounts that I could purchase that you would recommend? Because it seems like I need to purchase an external flash in order to get the flash working.
I'd start with a used Canon Speedlite, like a 420EX or 380EX. They're affordable by Canon flash stadnards and should do the trick. If you want to go more advancved you always can, but it's best to practice with a very simple setup and learn how that setup affects images. If you've never done this, after you get your flash, it's worth buying a few rolls to practice with it and one of those should be, at least half of it should be, something like a wood artist dummy (or another object that you have) with the flash rotated around the object. Literally put the thing on a table in a dark room, set the camera to the flash sync, calculate the aperture based on the flash guide number and distance from subject, and then just move it evenly around the subject. Practice with simple lighting modifiers like copy paper bounce sheets across from a flash or use copy paper or tin foil as a tube to make a flash snoot that targets the light. Keep notes of what you do and compare those to your images and you'll have a huge leg up on most people when it comes to using a flash.
Hi! Great video. I bought this camera a few months ago and I’m having a lot of problems with the shutter. Most of the time the shutter will close and then the battery icon will appear showing the the battery is dead. If I press the shutter button down again the camera will turn back on. This happens even with a fresh battery. The shutter often gets stuck and takes forever to open back up. I ordered a new body because this problem has been very frustrating and I haven’t been able to figure out what’s wrong. The new body I ordered arrived with the same problem. Do you have any suggestions on what I should do? Does it just need some cleaning on the inside?
Thank you! So I have a couple of ideas. First is to get a couple sets of new batteries and try those. Sometimes the batteries for these cameras are too weak, even if they're brand new, because they don't sell quickly at the stores. If that doesn't work then you may have gotten two of these with bad boards. I'm starting to see more and more Canon film cameras of this vintage with faulty electronics and regardless of the model they do exactly the same thing you're describing. I mostly see it in the Rebel G and EOS Rebel 2000 bodies, but I have seen it in a small number of Elan bodies.
hey this happened to me a few times too, I read online that this is a common problem. what I did (based on suggestions i found online) was clean the battery port with a cotton swab before putting in the battery. That fixed it for a while. I also folded up a little piece of paper and put it between the end of the battery and the flap that closes the port because it seems that somehow the battery doesnt fit perfectly so the camera has trouble registering it. that seems to help for a bit too, though so far nothing has been a 100% fix. hope this helps!
@@DavidHancock I’m having this same issue! I cleaned the battery port with a cotton swab, tried different batteries, and still having this issue. I’m so sad! Any other suggestions? Is this something a professional camera shop can fix?
Just wondering when you put the camera in AEB mode, does it automatically take three pictures in one shot or do you have to hold shoot down and three consecutive pictures are taken?
I read that these get pretty sticky on the rubberized finish. Would it be worth getting one of these and cleaning it or a just buying a Rebel K2 instead since they're everywhere? I don't really know canon stuff but I was thinking of getting a film camera for a friend since he has a 60d and some EF lenses. Would also love a Pentax PZ-1 / PZ-1P video it's the best pentax nobody talks about.
They can and it's an easy fix. Grab some 91% rubbing alcohol and paper towels. Fold the paper towels up to about the width of a tongue depresser and tear in half. Then saturate a side in rubbing alcohol and clean. Repeat with the other half of the towel and again as needed until the towels are coming off the rubber area clean. Then give it a good wipe down on and around the rubber area one last towel and rubbing alcohol and you'll never have the issue again. This only works with rubber that's already sticky. Rubber that hasn't failed won't peel off easily. The K2 shouldn't have the same issue. The k2 is a fine camera. it's FAR lighter than this one and a bit less well built, but it's also simpler and easier to learn to use.
@@DavidHancock I think I might get him the K2 then. If it was for me I'd pick the Elan IIe but I think for someone new to film the weight and easy controls might be more encouraging and those 2CR5 batteries can get pricey if you're on a trip and need one.
@@mikebraz25 I tried the 91% alcohol method on a sticky Elan I found at a thrift store and it rubbed all of the sticky off so I'd guess it would probably work on most sticky canons of that era.
hi David, quick q - I have a half shot roll of film that I want to put into this camera but I don’t want to double expose them, is there a way to wind the film on without shooting, so that I can carry on shooting where I left off on the roll?
Question: Is it correct that the EOS 50 custom functions do NOT show up on the lcd screen when no film is loaded and can NOT be set when no film is loaded ?
I have this camera but I can't figure out how to turn it on.. is there an on botton or is it constantly on? Thanks any answers would be massively appreciated
i’m just confused on the memory part. would i have to get a sim card for it also? i still have to get film, batteries etc. i understand that part but i don’t know how id transfer the photos.
So don't think of memory like storage. For this camera the memory is limited to settings configuration. For images, they're recorded on the film via chemical reactions and they aren't visible until the film is processed in developing chemistry. So if you use a photo lab, they do all of that developing for you and scan the images, too. That gets the photos on your phone or PC. All you need to do is take photos on the film and ensure it doesn't get exposed to light before it goes to the lab, which means keep the film back closed and rewind the film entirely before removing it from the camera (the camera does this when it rains the film for you, so that's very easy.)
It might work to tape it. I'm not sure if these have a sensor in them or not to detect the latch being engaged. If the latch on the door is broken, that may be an easy fix if you can get a parts camera.
This is a very helpful video, but there are times when--at first--your hands or fingers appear to be reaching for controls on the front, sides, or back of the camera that we can't see. If you watch it critically, I think you'll see what I mean. It would be clearer if you only pointed to, reached for, or touched only the one control you are talking about and not "fiddle" with the strap lugs or put your thumb somewhere that might be confused with reaching for a control... .
Thank you and I will work on that. Mostly that stems from having made manuals for between 150 and 200 cameras now and just not being able to remember where the buttons are on any of them anymore, even the cameras I use regularly.
I can’t seem to get AEB setting removed from the LCD screen allowing for complete manual mode. Is it always visually there even ‘if’ in full manual? My camera isn’t operating like it is.
AEB will operate separate from your shooting mode. AEB, as a drive mode, is controlled by the bracketing function. I forget if that's covered in this video or in video 3, but there is a place in one of these videos that shows how to turn that on and off.
@@DavidHancock Thanks. I'd highly appreciate if you'd post the links to all the videos concerning the EOS Elan IIE. There's a button on the back left of the camera door panel but even when scrolling through the various options AEB is still in the LCD,& I can' t seem to snap a manual shot,& then have access to the aperture/shutter for the next shot.
@@jomoanderson5596 Check the description for the video, there should be links to the other videos. If I forgot to do that for these, let me know and I'll fix that.
I stumbled upon a manual published by Stanford, for some reason: graphics.stanford.edu/~niloy/miscDocs/elanIIe.pdf I suppose it's an interesting alternative to Canon's, still findable online with a modicum of searching. (And Canon's website actually has an online version, too.)
@@DavidHancock Yeah, I guess I never tried it before. The button always made me think I was missing a remote since I thrifted my camera. Easier than I expected! Thank you!
IIRC, you just open the battery chamber on the camera, insert the BP-50 connection, and then tighten it via the tripod socket. The battery cap ought to have a place to tuck into in the grip.
Yes, some lenses. You would need an adapter from the lens mount to EOS EF. EF has a long flange distance so most vintage lenses won't mount on it. Also, some that will, like M42, sometimes have protruding rear elements which pose a risk of contact with the camera's mirror during exposure.
I led you astray. There are only two. Usually with cameras this complex I make a third video. But yes, I think there is a way to use the back button for autofocus. This video at 10:33 might have that tip.
Great video but wow I feel old! I still have my original and haven't used it in years. I'm going to buy a battery and roll o film and see what happens! I switched to digital years ago, but miss the film in both stills and motion pictures camera; I have a Beaulieu 4008 super 8 film camera as well, collecting dust. Shame on me!
Hi David, this is an essential video, there maybe many 50E users out there (including myself) that haven't got a complete handle on the important functions this brilliant camera offers, and there are many. I've watched this video several times now, and things are beginning to sink into my brain. Many thanks for the detailed run through of how to use the 50E.
Thank you, Rob!
Thank you so much for a great review and useful tutorial! I recently got Canon EOS 50 from my beloved wife as a gift. The camera is nice and easy to understand. Shooting portraits on film is certainly very different from digital.The sound of the winding film is music. I think film photography should be wide spread, more popular and accessible.
Thank you!
As another bald guy with a beard, a chocolate lab, and a recently acquired eos50e, I felt an instant connection! Great walkthrough for someone too lazy to go through the manual. I imagine the first few rolls will be all on the 'green square' but at least now I know the potential of all those options !
Thank you!
Thanks for providing your videos as a refresher coarse in using my camera. I've had this camera for a years and totally forgot I had it. Trying to get back on the saddle again and get out there and take great pictures!
Thank you!
Just got my IIE, this video has helped so much. Many thanks!
Thank you so much for your efforts in producing this vid. I have my Canon Elan ii paired with a 35 mm F1,4 Sigma art lense - I can’t wait to shoot. With love all the way from South Africa.🇿🇦
Thank you!
WOW! THIS VIDEO IS SOOOO GOOD!!! WHO NEEDS TO READ THE MANUAL WITH THIS WEALTH OF INFORMATION!!! LOVE THE VIDEO!🤘🏾🤘🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾👊🏾
Thank you!
thank you for posting this!! so helpful and thorough
Thank you!
Hi David. I purchased the same camera, if I am corect, in 2005 when digital cameras start go up,up. I got it on Ebay for Can$100.00. Before digitals, it was around 1800 Can$. What a deal! It came in original wrap box. Super. Since 2005, I had to review how to operate so many points. But, your explanation it did it. Thank you. Negative film cameras looks like ganing value / popularity again. I look around, and the prices are starting going back over 1000 dollars. Yeeh, I have it for 100 bucks in perfect condition. Thans Dave. Merry Christmas.
Nice! Thank you, Enoch!
This is super helpful, definitely going to rewatch, thank you.
Thank you!
Hello!
You’ve saved my life with this video, thank you so much because I was searching for a complete video which really explains about this camera at all. So I just have one question, how would you recommend me to clean it without breaking or ruining it?
I hope you’re doing well!
Thank you! The easiest way to clean these with 91% alcohol and cotton swabs for the camera body. On the lens, pick up some lens cleaning fluid (preferably in a spray bottle) and some lens cleaning tissues. There are also kits if you don't have one. Then use that on the glass surfaces. For the focusing screen above the mirror, don't for any reason use anything except distilled water on that as chemicals will melt the micro edges on it and ruin it.
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Thank you for your detailed breakdowns. I'm glad I found your channel👍🏿
Thank you!
Well done, a very useful video fpr new owners. I picked up my copy at the Frankfurt fleamarket for 13 Euro (14$), now i am prepared, when the battery will arrive tomorrow. Thank you.
I have this camera and it’s one of my favorites.
Nice and good favorite!
Well done...good explanation of functions.
Thank you!
Thanks so much! So much to absorb! Got a II on he way! So many choices!!
Thank you!
I just bought one for very cheap, albeit with the door latch issue. Really cool camera. Can't seem to get the eye control to work but I read it doesn't like eyeglass wearers.
Yeah, eye AF struggles with glasses wearers.
Good job on a marvelous camera. 550ex flash is great and very reasonable at present.
Thank you!
Well done. Pretty comprehensive. Side note... With the 380EX, it will automatically do HSS and works with a Velo ettl off camera cord. Very "under the radar" camera. I like it equally to the Elan 7 although the 7 seems tighter and slightly refined.
Thank you! I didn't know that about the 380EX.
Hi! Really appreciate that you made these videos about this niche camera. I’ve already watched them so many times in bits and will continue to as I learn the camera. I’m wondering how to turn this camera off. The red L is technically the off button, right? I worry the ongoing glow of the LCD will drain the battery. If I take the battery out every time, will the exposure count stay accurate? Any tips on turning it off? Thanks.
Thank you and that is off. To prevent battery drain, you'll need to remove the batteries. The screen tends not to drain them so much so I'd suggest that only if you're not planning to shoot it for a week or longer. Leaving them in overnight or for a few days or even weeks likely won't affect their life too much.
When this camera was released it was released with the canon speedlight 380EX which was the first EX speedlights witch had highspeed sync you could use flash at any shutter speed.
Thank you! I didn't know that.
Thank you for this great video, you answered the DEP setting very well, I could never get it into my head as to how that worked! I have the 55 version of this camera which includes the panorama slide button, nice to have even if I don't intend using it. I also got the battery grip for it which makes it feel really solid. I just wish I could take out the quart battery so that the data imprint function stops working because when I first used this camera, I had no idea it was on and set to 1989, it was a "nice" surprise when the negs came back to find that lovely imprint on the frames. I have turned it off but don't ever want to have turn on by accident. I can't seem to open that battery door, the screw is so tightly jammed in there.
Thank you!
For the panorama setting, it was a total fad. I think it's ridiculous (in all the cameras that had it) because it just crops out negative space and reduces enlargement quality.
For the screw, you'll need a proper JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screwdriver head. These can be bought on eBay as cell phone repair screw drivers pretty cheap. To remove the screw, try using some rubbing alcohol applied with a cotton swab to the screw head. If that doesn't work, some drops -- DROPS -- of lighter fluid. Then press down a bit while unscrewing. The screw likely has some Lock-tite or similar compound on the threads (that was a standard practice for screws holding the body together at any rate). I completely agree that the date function on these is essentially useless and taking the battery out is a great idea.
@@DavidHancock Thanks again! I actually just managed to get it unscrewed and removed the battery! I used of those eye glass tiny screw drivers, worked like a charm. Glad that battery is out. I am very pleased to know I won't ever have imprints on the frames again. Must shoot with this camera more.
Hi, where did you turn the date imprint off? I just got this camera and am currently shooting my first roll but I don't know whether the date imprint function is actually turned off
@@IceeaTeea Best way is to remove the battery. It's one of those coin batteries on the right side of the back door. I did this as I was never sure it was truly turned off.
@@ceritat625 Do you mean the big 2CR5 battery in the bottom/underside of the camera? I can't seem to find any smaller coin battery other than the one on the bottom
A battery grip was also released for the camera it takes 4 AA batteries or one 2cr5 battery the battery door does not come off the camera there is a space on the battery grip for the battery door to fit into.
Oh nice. That would last a long time.
DEP mode works by _compelling you_ to take two focus readings at the places in the scene you wish to remain in focus, and sets the aperture to accomplish that depth of field while allowing the rest to go blurry. Simple yet sophisticated, this feature continued on Canons in later years, and it's one I regularly forget to try. This is your opportunity to have the camera choose aperture for you based NOT on a meter reading. Hmm ...
Oh that explains why it always behaves weirdly for me. I keep forgetting that it's not automatically reading the scene based on AF data.
@@DavidHancock Well, it is automatically reading the scene based on AF data, it just needs the 2 separate AF locations ... if it only used one distance it could never know how much or how little depth you're after.
Great video. I was looking to see if there was a Multiple exposure function. I have 3 of these cameras.
Thank you! There is. I forget where exactly but it's in this video near the end.
Thank you for this insightful video, I have this model camera, I want to get back into real photography and away from more cell phone pictures. As a artist, I appreciate classic things and printed 35mm photos are tangible like Polaroid's.
Thank you and that's fantastic!
Thank you so much, do you have any information on the quartz date back function? Not sure how to enable the display on mine (eos 55)
Thank you and IIRC those stopped counting a handful of years ago and can't record accurate dates any more. Just remove the button cell battery from the door and pretend the date function doesn't exist.
So I noticed you said it had no flash sync port so that means it can’t use a cable release I don’t have that model. I just have the Elan ii But it has flash sync port and cable release
Thank you! That's an interesting difference.
Thank you so much for the video David!
I was wondering if you'd know if this camera is supposed to work with studio strobe trigger? I tried it today and it didn't work (didn't trigger the flash), but worked on my Pentax me super tho!
Thanks ahead :)
Thank you! That may be a setting on your camera. If the flash trigger works in manual mode, then there's some setting that the flash trigger doesn't like.
Using this camera after a long time being left on a shelf and after taking a pic the film ( new) rolled back into the canister. Any idea why it rewinded like that?
Most likely a mis-load. If you have a camera shop nearby, they may have a film leader retriever so you can use that roll again. They may also be able to see what's going on with it, too.
@@DavidHancock I managed to retrieve it with an pin and happened again , and then changed CF to 01 ( not sure it it had anything to do) but now it’s not happening anymore… only a battery check error coming from time to time now
Hi! Great video but how do you turn on the quartz date? Thank you
Thank you and the buttons on the back should do that. If it isn't turning on check the button cell battery inside the back, which is very likely dead.
Hi Thank you for the tutorial. I have this camera (EOS Elan ii) and when I put it in lock mode my LCD screen stays on showing the number of pics taken and a circle . Is there a reason the screen stays on ? I noticed when you locked your's the screen goes off ! Thank you
Hi David I found your answer in another post TY Great video !
David, this video was indispensable for me.
I was wondering if you could help me with a problem I've been running into. I've been shooting with this camera (my first film camera) the past week. I love it. I am however running into an issue that I can't seem to troubleshoot with google (and having read the manual). Sometimes I'll take a shot and the shutter will open (i.e. viewfinder goes black, a click is audible) but then it won't close unless I lightly press the shutter button again. My shutter speeds are not long (could be, say, 125).
Does anything quickly come to mind as to why this might be happening? I learned that these cameras have an issue where black goo from a deteriorating foam gets on the shutter. I found some on mine and cleaned it but the issue persists. Also, it's intermittent, which makes me think it is a setting I don't understand and not a mechanical problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Hmm. What mode (PASM) are you using, are you shooting inside or out, and what speed film are you using?
@@DavidHancock Various modes. It happened consistently in manual, but also in AV and TV. 400 film.
I have the same issue; but also the battery will show empty; but I just installed it, until I press the shutter button again and the mirror will release again.
Thank you!
Good job buddy!
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Pls help me, I just bought eos 55, so when I install film Vision 3 500T, this camera set auto AEB -2 so I don't understand why, I did try take AEB 0 but can not ?
Hmm. There are a few possibilities.
1- Check the EV compensation is set to 0. That would be a different setting than AEB.
2- If you're indoors, the camera may just be trying to tell you there isn't enough light. If your lens is around f/11 with 500 ISO film, then it's distinctly possible that indoor lighting would show two stops under.
3- Does the 500T cassette have a DX code? If not, check that the ISO is set correctly on the camera. This would tie in to the above meter reading thought.
Those are the ideas I can think of. I'm hopeful that one will fix the issue.
Could you explain a little more about reducing light to compensate for multiple exposures?
Basically, film is designed to have a certain amount of light reach it. If you take a double exposure without reducing the light for each shot, the film receives too much light and you'll lost contrast and image quality. So you want to use the camera's tools to cut the light in half if you're taking a double exposure. That was two exposures of half the needed light will result in a single double-exposure image with the proper amount of light.
@@DavidHancock Thanks!
Hi David! Which tools do we use to cut the light?
Hi David! I have been wanting to figure out the flash system on this camera for quite some time. I was wondering if you could provide me of some names of flash mounts that I could purchase that you would recommend? Because it seems like I need to purchase an external flash in order to get the flash working.
I'd start with a used Canon Speedlite, like a 420EX or 380EX. They're affordable by Canon flash stadnards and should do the trick. If you want to go more advancved you always can, but it's best to practice with a very simple setup and learn how that setup affects images.
If you've never done this, after you get your flash, it's worth buying a few rolls to practice with it and one of those should be, at least half of it should be, something like a wood artist dummy (or another object that you have) with the flash rotated around the object. Literally put the thing on a table in a dark room, set the camera to the flash sync, calculate the aperture based on the flash guide number and distance from subject, and then just move it evenly around the subject.
Practice with simple lighting modifiers like copy paper bounce sheets across from a flash or use copy paper or tin foil as a tube to make a flash snoot that targets the light. Keep notes of what you do and compare those to your images and you'll have a huge leg up on most people when it comes to using a flash.
@@DavidHancock Thank you so much! This was very helpful.
I need a quick tip. How do I remove the battery door to install the battery grip?
I thought the battery grip on these had a small space for the battery door to fit into when it was installed.
Hi! Great video. I bought this camera a few months ago and I’m having a lot of problems with the shutter. Most of the time the shutter will close and then the battery icon will appear showing the the battery is dead. If I press the shutter button down again the camera will turn back on. This happens even with a fresh battery. The shutter often gets stuck and takes forever to open back up. I ordered a new body because this problem has been very frustrating and I haven’t been able to figure out what’s wrong. The new body I ordered arrived with the same problem. Do you have any suggestions on what I should do? Does it just need some cleaning on the inside?
Thank you! So I have a couple of ideas. First is to get a couple sets of new batteries and try those. Sometimes the batteries for these cameras are too weak, even if they're brand new, because they don't sell quickly at the stores. If that doesn't work then you may have gotten two of these with bad boards. I'm starting to see more and more Canon film cameras of this vintage with faulty electronics and regardless of the model they do exactly the same thing you're describing. I mostly see it in the Rebel G and EOS Rebel 2000 bodies, but I have seen it in a small number of Elan bodies.
hey this happened to me a few times too, I read online that this is a common problem. what I did (based on suggestions i found online) was clean the battery port with a cotton swab before putting in the battery. That fixed it for a while. I also folded up a little piece of paper and put it between the end of the battery and the flap that closes the port because it seems that somehow the battery doesnt fit perfectly so the camera has trouble registering it. that seems to help for a bit too, though so far nothing has been a 100% fix. hope this helps!
@@annmakkar2472 thank you so much!! I’m definitely going to try this!!
This happens to be as well. I wish there was a way to fix it :/
@@DavidHancock I’m having this same issue! I cleaned the battery port with a cotton swab, tried different batteries, and still having this issue. I’m so sad! Any other suggestions? Is this something a professional camera shop can fix?
Just wondering when you put the camera in AEB mode, does it automatically take three pictures in one shot or do you have to hold shoot down and three consecutive pictures are taken?
Oh gosh, I forget and I sold this camera already. I would give it a shot without film and see how it performs. That should let you know.
I read that these get pretty sticky on the rubberized finish. Would it be worth getting one of these and cleaning it or a just buying a Rebel K2 instead since they're everywhere? I don't really know canon stuff but I was thinking of getting a film camera for a friend since he has a 60d and some EF lenses. Would also love a Pentax PZ-1 / PZ-1P video it's the best pentax nobody talks about.
They can and it's an easy fix. Grab some 91% rubbing alcohol and paper towels. Fold the paper towels up to about the width of a tongue depresser and tear in half. Then saturate a side in rubbing alcohol and clean. Repeat with the other half of the towel and again as needed until the towels are coming off the rubber area clean. Then give it a good wipe down on and around the rubber area one last towel and rubbing alcohol and you'll never have the issue again. This only works with rubber that's already sticky. Rubber that hasn't failed won't peel off easily.
The K2 shouldn't have the same issue. The k2 is a fine camera. it's FAR lighter than this one and a bit less well built, but it's also simpler and easier to learn to use.
@@DavidHancock I think I might get him the K2 then. If it was for me I'd pick the Elan IIe but I think for someone new to film the weight and easy controls might be more encouraging and those 2CR5 batteries can get pricey if you're on a trip and need one.
I have 2 of these iie and found if not too terribly sticky, light amount of vasoline helps resolve the stickiness.
@@mikebraz25 I tried the 91% alcohol method on a sticky Elan I found at a thrift store and it rubbed all of the sticky off so I'd guess it would probably work on most sticky canons of that era.
hi David, quick q - I have a half shot roll of film that I want to put into this camera but I don’t want to double expose them, is there a way to wind the film on without shooting, so that I can carry on shooting where I left off on the roll?
Yup. Set the camera to manual mode, fast shutter speed, small aperture, and leave the lens cap on. Take photos till you reach unused film.
Question: Is it correct that the EOS 50 custom functions do NOT show up on the lcd screen when no film is loaded and can NOT be set when no film is loaded ?
IIRC, yes. I sold this camera about a week after I made this video so my memory is a bit foggy.
I have this camera but I can't figure out how to turn it on.. is there an on botton or is it constantly on? Thanks any answers would be massively appreciated
There's a section in the video about the mode dial (link in the description). That ought to get you going.
i’m just confused on the memory part. would i have to get a sim card for it also? i still have to get film, batteries etc. i understand that part but i don’t know how id transfer the photos.
So don't think of memory like storage. For this camera the memory is limited to settings configuration. For images, they're recorded on the film via chemical reactions and they aren't visible until the film is processed in developing chemistry. So if you use a photo lab, they do all of that developing for you and scan the images, too. That gets the photos on your phone or PC. All you need to do is take photos on the film and ensure it doesn't get exposed to light before it goes to the lab, which means keep the film back closed and rewind the film entirely before removing it from the camera (the camera does this when it rains the film for you, so that's very easy.)
I can not close my film back i think it has broken Would it work if I tape the cover after load the film? does it work? What do you think
It might work to tape it. I'm not sure if these have a sensor in them or not to detect the latch being engaged. If the latch on the door is broken, that may be an easy fix if you can get a parts camera.
@@DavidHancock thank you for your quick answer
hi will leaving the film in the camera kill the battery if i didn’t finish the film?? i have it turned off but it shows how much pics i took
In time, but it might take some months. The reminder number doesn't drain the battery very fast at all.
This is a very helpful video, but there are times when--at first--your hands or fingers appear to be reaching for controls on the front, sides, or back of the camera that we can't see. If you watch it critically, I think you'll see what I mean. It would be clearer if you only pointed to, reached for, or touched only the one control you are talking about and not "fiddle" with the strap lugs or put your thumb somewhere that might be confused with reaching for a control...
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Thank you and I will work on that. Mostly that stems from having made manuals for between 150 and 200 cameras now and just not being able to remember where the buttons are on any of them anymore, even the cameras I use regularly.
Hey my flash won’t go up no matter what I try. Do you know why this could be happening?
Which mode are you using? Some of the modes disable flash pop-up.
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I can’t seem to get AEB setting removed from the LCD screen allowing for complete manual mode. Is it always visually there even ‘if’ in full manual? My camera isn’t operating like it is.
AEB will operate separate from your shooting mode. AEB, as a drive mode, is controlled by the bracketing function. I forget if that's covered in this video or in video 3, but there is a place in one of these videos that shows how to turn that on and off.
@@DavidHancock Thanks. I'd highly appreciate if you'd post the links to all the videos concerning the EOS Elan IIE. There's a button on the back left of the camera door panel
but even when scrolling through the various options AEB is still in the LCD,& I can' t seem to snap a manual shot,& then have access to the aperture/shutter for the next shot.
@@jomoanderson5596 Check the description for the video, there should be links to the other videos. If I forgot to do that for these, let me know and I'll fix that.
I stumbled upon a manual published by Stanford, for some reason: graphics.stanford.edu/~niloy/miscDocs/elanIIe.pdf I suppose it's an interesting alternative to Canon's, still findable online with a modicum of searching. (And Canon's website actually has an online version, too.)
Thank you!
I havent been able to find a video on the self timer, could you explain that for me?
There's a little switch on the left of the mode dial, set that to the self timer and it will count down.
@@DavidHancock Yeah, I guess I never tried it before. The button always made me think I was missing a remote since I thrifted my camera. Easier than I expected! Thank you!
How do I install the bp-50 battery grip on the elaniie
IIRC, you just open the battery chamber on the camera, insert the BP-50 connection, and then tighten it via the tripod socket. The battery cap ought to have a place to tuck into in the grip.
Is it possible to use a vintage manual lens on this?
Yes, some lenses. You would need an adapter from the lens mount to EOS EF. EF has a long flange distance so most vintage lenses won't mount on it. Also, some that will, like M42, sometimes have protruding rear elements which pose a risk of contact with the camera's mirror during exposure.
what lens do you use on this camera I cant find one
Any EF mount lens will work. I don't think they made a 58mm, but the 50mm 1.8 is a very good choice.
Can you set it to back button autofocus?
I believe so. I think video 3 covers that setting.
@@DavidHancock Oh, didn’t realise you’d made a third
@@linusfotograf there's a link to the video in this one's description of that helps track it down.
@@DavidHancock Can’t find a third video on this camera
I led you astray. There are only two. Usually with cameras this complex I make a third video. But yes, I think there is a way to use the back button for autofocus. This video at 10:33 might have that tip.
Great video but wow I feel old! I still have my original and haven't used it in years. I'm going to buy a battery and roll o film and see what happens!
I switched to digital years ago, but miss the film in both stills and motion pictures camera; I have a Beaulieu 4008 super 8 film camera as well, collecting dust.
Shame on me!
Nice! These are still a lot of fun to use.