i read the dark academia fantasy book tiktok keeps recommending to me: was it worth it? (no spoiler)
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Today we are reading The Atlas Six, the super hyped up dark academia fantasy book that has been all over my tiktok for you page. Is it worth it? Does it live up to the hype? Let's find out!
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i think some readers want to be intelligent and intelectual so much they just lie about their favorite books so people will think they read the most complex book ever. it's ok to like a book because it's fun, you don't need to convince people you are intelectual because you read a teen fantasy book. just say, ''this book is fun and that's why a loved it''.
This so much! ♡
Exactly!!
YES THANK YOU
100%!! I recently read The Diviners as one of my Halloween reads. I'm a 31 year old attorney boss bitch, but I have no trouble saying I thoroughly enjoyed that YA novel and I plan on reading the rest of the series. Like what you like and own it! Reading is about having time with yourself and getting lost in a story - other opinions don't matter.
YES girl preach I too had the same thought about this 🙌👏
I was so disappointed in the lack of the actual library? You're in the frigging Library of Alexandria and don't go absolutely nuts over it? Reina talks about it maybe twice. I was expecting more books and less horny. No, I am not complaining about the horny.
Yes! That was one of my issues with the book. What's the point of having this secret library with lost texts when it barely features in the plot?
the second book leans into the library itself a LOT more!
I'm actually more forgiving for magic systems that are less explained than ones that try to use science concepts that exist in the real world but just use them completely wrong or in the most basic way of understanding
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Fully agree. Deviating a bit from books, this is something common in anime. Stuff like Fire Force, or Jojo, both sometimes try to explain their abilities logically, but end up being only less cogerent because of science misunderstandings. Magic systems need rules and consistency before they need explanations. Sure, there are times where the author creates a complex system that is also well explained (Jujutsu Kaisen comes to my mind) but sometimes less intricate systems can be easier to follow
Also it’s magic, it’s not meant to be scientific
Soft magic systems are my favourite. The best example i can think of right now for a soft magic system is Coraline. It doesn't explain why events occur. Just what you need to understand what is happening. (This goes both for the movie and the book) .
*Me looking at my fantasy AU where all magic is derived from the electromagnetic spectrum* S***
I am so scared to hear your opinion on one of my fav books this year 😖 here I go 😳
hey haley!!
love seeing you enter your dark academia phase
@@user-qu8zs7vs1x Oh my godable! Stop insulting people with wrong labels. I only admit there are differences between sexes. I didnt say women are worse than men, I didnt say they must be treated like second class people or something like that. Dont hate people just because they have different (not extrimist moderate) opinion. P.S. All your comments were deleted/hidden, but Leo left one of my comments (this one). You know what its mean? She is agree at least with one my statement and she doesnt agree with your hysterical hatred at all. )) "Gonna cry?" (c) Bully Maguire from "Spiderman 3" (2007)
@@TheBookLeo Thank you for removing the hateful comments. I watch and comment on your videos to discuss books in a place that is free from rude people.
What did the rude comments say
dark academia in autumn is just *chef's kiss* also THAT COVER THO
i know right the whole book is so pretty!
@Elijah Abdulrahman agreed, the self published one just matched the vibe a lot better
No but I thought I was the only person who was SEVERELY disappointed in this book!! I agree with basically all of your points; worldbuilding and magic system are too big and poorly explained, I couldn’t picture the setting at all and there were too many pretentious discussions about hypothetical concepts when it could have had a stronger plot. It’s now being traditionally published by Tor tho, so I’m curious to see whether the book will get a round of edits before the new release!
Also could have used more editing. I know it was self published but there are free lance editors.
A vanity publication that was full of tropes, generic themes, and ideas lifted from other books and films. As people have already said better editing would have helped. Still, if nothing else it does show just about anything can get published these days, I feel sorry for all the trees sacrificed to produce this tosh.
I will always root for self-published books, so knowing that one reached this level of hype does make me happy, even if it didn't quite live up to said hype. But it still is encouraging to see self-published works break through to the mainstream.
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The bit with the lighting was hilarious! That was you manipulating the force field and the molecules. Wait for Atlas and your invite to the Library of Alexandria! :)
100% agree with you on the lack of descriptions, there were no 'establishment shots' whatsoever and I couldn't visualise a thing, especially in the fight scenes. Could have definitely been leagues better with an editor since the pacing was off, some dialogue scenes just went on so long that it felt a bit pretentious
i agree!!
Since Tor Books acquired it, the new hardcover, audiobook, and ebook in 2022 will be revised and edited with a professional editor! All hopefully while keeping all the positive aspects- so keep an eye out for that! I’m a huge fan of this book so I’m pumped up for that 💕
Ooo I'll definitely have to check it out then!
did olivie self publish the atlas six I’ve genuinely been so confused
@@lihaec yes she did, through Amazon! A majority of her books are, while 2 are published through a small publishing company,
It was already published on Tor Books via September 28th 2021 according to Goodreads.
Oh sweet. I’m going to wait until then, thanks for info
The best part of my day: Leonie calling us 'dearest dudes'
I read this book in June and yes, I thought it was overhyped as well! It had some likable things, but what irritated me most were actually the characters. I mean, they got better in the end, but I remember thinking they had NO reason to be rude/mean to each other (this actually put them in a huge disadvantage considering the "one has to die" rule which they discovered later on), except of it being a dark academia where people are supposed to be morally grey. I'm okay with characters being rude, mean, having a screwed-up moral compass or just plain bad to each other, but give me a reason WHY they behave like that. They were like that from the beginning on without ANY logical reason imo. It got better a bit later but the damage was done already lol.
Also Atlas Six is getting traditionally published! Macmillan said they're going to revise/ edit and include new artwork as well, so maybe that will help with the inconsistencies you noticed :)
The light outage and the candel really set the mood for this video it's almost as if it's intentional 😂.. love your review of the book , I had it on my tbr list but I guess I'll just skip it.
it was honestly the best coincidence!
I feel like booktok is something that has a lottt of different sides. Yes, it is a great way of getting people started on reading again but the majority of those “tiktok books” are way too overhyped. Perhaps it is just because the books I have read because of tiktok just weren’t for me but *imo* there are a lot of hidden gems in the library or bookstores you can find JUST by it (the book) finding *you* , It’s almost the best way of finding a good, satisfying book. But again, it is lovely to see that a lot of people began reading again because of tiktok! (Can’t say it didn’t hype me up to get dust off my books.) And no, not all booktok books are bad, on the contrary, I think there are sick stories that got more attention over social media. All with all, very mixed opinions on booktok.
Have a nice day! :))
@Nina exactly!
@m. wuzowski I agree. They are all basically about one genre and the same ten books over and over again. Plus, they bring back some books I read a long time ago and totally over hype them. And i honestly don’t trust many of their opinions for recommendations because many (not all) have smut as a primary reason they like the book. No thank you. I just want some books that explore life and have vibrant worlds and characters and make you laugh and cry.
@@katien3022 this! I think the real gems you would find way out of social media or at least away from TikTok. Plus it’s not a fair deal. Books that are way better written are getting way too less appreciation by those overhyped and books
Honestly true that. I started reading again because of booktok and found some AMAZING books that are my absolute faves rn!!! However... Them being overhyped is a big problem to me. I had HUGE expectations for The song of Achilles, and I DID like the book a LOT, however my expectations were wayyyy higher than what it offered to me, that in the end I was disappointed. A great thing about it though is that I saw the description of the second book the author wrote, Circe, as books usually do at the end of their covers, and I fell in love with it sm I knew immediately that I was going to love it. And I DID!!! it's now my ulti favorite book ever!!! I read it in two days, like a day or two after I finished the song of Achilles!!
what made me DNF after over 200 pages was that it felt like the author REALLY wanted to use an entire dictionary in this book. like ‘defenestrate’ and ‘ostensibly’ we’re used in the same sentence and I had to put it down soon after that. I hate non accessible language and it felt to me like the author wanted to be pretentious for no reason
I might be late, but: I totally agree! And it actually made me not finish the book, too. English is not my first language, but i usually have no problems with reading comprehension, neither in the papers I read for uni, nor in reading for fun (writing might be another story, but reading/listening is generally no problem). But this ... was terrible. My GOD. I did actively need to google for some translations, and this did totally break the experience. Also there are sentences that do not make sense (even after I read them ten times and felt stupid for "not getting" them), which made me want to throw this book against the wall.
AND I HAVE THE OFFICIALLY PUBLISHED ONE ... my god, I was excited for this, I feel betrayed.
If my local library picks up the German translation I would potentially try again, but to be honest, I am interested in world building, and REALLY not into characters wanting to duck each other.
I think its really fun to see new words used in different and new ways so really really improves vocab highly
@@bushrawaqar8740 The issue is that it leads to bad sentences. This is why 'purple prose' has such a bad wrap even though it can be done properly. Often times, an author will say the same thing over and over in different ways. For example: The trees were verdant, lush with green, and flourishing. To an untrained reader this sounds almost poetic, but the truth is all three of these statements say the same thing and do not bring any new imagery to the table. It should be better to use simple vocabulary that further builds on the image: the trees were verdant, green spanning across reaching branches to block out even the smallest traces of sky.
I like the word "defenestrate" but more out of comedic appreciation for how people in the olden days were thrown out of towers often enough that it warranted having its own word. I think however, if you want to immerse a reader in what is happening in a visceral way, describing movements more literally, with simpler words, is actually better. Ornamentation can have a way of obscuring the gravity of serious things happening within a narrative.
But that's just my opinion and I might try to get through the book anyways.
I think the people under this comment are very hypocritical as they're describing purple prose, using purple prose
The thing that annoyed me sooo much it started to hurt is how much the other POVs contained slander against Libby. Yes, she has literally zero self esteem at first and is insecure, but come on: having all other POVs pretty much start with how much they despise her and think she's stupid was unnecessary at best and hurtful at worst. Yeah, I admit, there's a lot of self insertion here but it confirmed my fear that everyone around me will hate me for this personalty trait and disregard all other of my qualities. Couldn't there be one, just one character who at least thought neutral about her from the get-go? And no, I will forever rant about this
So, Olivie Blake is actually a very well know Harry Potter fanfiction writer. OB is also not the author's real name. I feel like a lot of the hype came from the fandom because she was publishing and not because ppl actually love The Atlas Six.
That makes a lot of sense… When I saw the character drawings and descriptions I immediately thought of the most used Slytherin characters, but it might just be me 🤷🏻
I felt like this book had a decent set up with introduction to the characters and description of the society followed by a lackluster execution of the plot. I kind of expected more maneuvering and backstabbing between the six based on synopsis. And your right that this barely had a setting. I had to keep reminding myself that it was supposedly set in an English manor house because that was not at all obvious and I kept forgetting.
From your explanations of the magic system, I imagine the author is someone who liked the idea of a science-based magic system, but doesn't actually have a strong enough science background to write one. Which no problem with not being in a STEM field, but also...maybe don't try to base your magic system on something you don't understand?
That's not the problem. She could've always done a lot of research about it. Not every author knows everything that they're writing about but they end up doing lots of research about them in order to know better. Google is free, RUclips is free. She could've had an idea and maybe googled if that thing does have a scientific paper done somewhere and then thought about a way to put it in her story. But this is her first book I believe? So I'll be less harsh to be honest. Not many people are good the first time, and she has the potential to get better. She came up with a great idea, with time I'm sure she'll get better. Especially now that she has a publishing house!
I think olivie blake has so much potential, she just needs a helping hand with revising/editing the books before publishing
i love how books make you escape reality and just chill for some time 😭
btw, I am a small youtuber :*
it's the best feeling!
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It's nice to have a video where you're just having fun with a book. It must be hard sometimes, when you have a RUclips channel, not to feel like something you like is turning into something that feels like a duty.
the part with candles is soooo cozy! ✨and thanks for another beautiful video 🥰
Currently reading this and I do agree with a lot of the points you make and also that is really addictive. I do feel like this could have been edited better as we're reading the characters' thoughts, but I found it difficult to follow when they were reminiscing on things that happened in the past. If it were written in italic or something or with some white space to separate it from the present, that would have been an improvement for me.
excited to see you reading this! i too had very mixed feelings - i was super compelled by the story and liked some of the characters a lot (will definitely check out the sequel when that comes out). but i felt like it could really really use a proper editor, the writing was too convoluted at times and i felt like it wanted to be very smart but it just came across as overly pretentious, same with the magic system not really being explained. i think a deep edit would have cleaned these parts up
Thank you for the video :)
The book does sound like a lot of fun! Glad you had a good time.
Regarding the quotes, yeah, with a bit of tweaking they would have made perfect sense, but not in their current form.
Your videos comfort me, i really needed something like this and i feel better. Hope you're doing well
the atlas six has been picked up by tor books, so i'm intrigued if it will be edited for the upcoming editions!
i do not have anything to add but commenting for the algorithm, coming home to one of leonie's videos after a long day at work is the best!
You're so fun to watch! Your personality really shines through and makes your vids really enjoyable💗
OMG amazon i've been aggressively recommended me this book for months now, i'm so excited to see you read it for me ahahah
I recently found out your channel and loved it... I must confess I am marathoning your channel. So cozy and you English is awesome.
Keep making vídeos
I'm still down to read this. I think it would be perfect for a break from schoolwork! Thanks for the awesome review.
love you Leonie your videos are so calming, refreshing and fun
you posting is now the highlight of my day
I read this book a couple of week ago and while I really enjoyed the beginning, the middle part really didn’t do it for me… but the ending!!! The last third really pulled it together for me! Overall really liked it!
Need more videos like this.😭
This was SO much fun! Thanks Leonie!
12:34 - Omg, that red herring Switch-eroo was too good!
These videos help me so much!!! I’m in the process of writing a book (that I will probably self publish but knowing me will ask everyone I know to read it before I publish) and it is my first actual book! I’m trying to not make any blunders, and if I do publish it, I hope people will truly enjoy it, and that the reading will be smooth, as in the reader won’t be confused by plot holes and stuff. This is why I’m putting so much effort in my world building😂
Loved this video! I do not trust Tiktok book recs at all, but when I saw this book and read an overview of what it is about I was definitely intrigued by all the same things you pointed out. I bought it a few weeks ago but haven’t started because I was finishing a few other books, and with the announcement that it’s been picked up by Tor and will go through full revisions with an editor, before re-publishing in March, I’m thinking I’ll hold out on reading it until then. Hoping they’ll fix the vague or lack of descriptions that you mentioned because that would definitely drive crazy!
Ahhhh I just got 30% through today and I definitely underestimated this book. It’s SO good so far and i’m reading it with a group of six friends and we are really immersed already 🥰
I loved this video format 💖
I am so excited when I see a new video of yours come up,you are my favourite booktouber! Also, as a suggestion, would you consider filming a 'study with me' video? I am also doing my master's degree and such a video from you (which would definitely be very aesthetic) would accompany my study sessions👌🙏🍂💕
I love videos like these! Also the power outage made this vid ~extra cozy~
Ahhh new video!! Been missing you on my feed!
This review was hilarious cause I loved the concept and the plot but the points made were so true!!
monday was literally dark academia day
i really would like to read this book, thanks bookleo hahah
Aaah so excited to watch this! This notification brightened my day 💛
yay that makes me happy!
Perfect timing! I was just trying to decide if I should buy this book to read it/when should I read it.
Love your videos. Hope your assignment went well!
omg i just bought this book & it will be my next read i’m so excited
I'm revisiting your video after reading the book and you are so right on so many points, I completely agree with you! And, probably because my expectations were low, I really had a great time reading it, even if the magic system is flimsy at best and the science doesn't sound accurate.
Glad I saw this before picking it up. I was concerned , because the premise is great but I’ve been burned by self published books before. The comments here say it’s being picked up by Tor, so I’ll wait for the revised edition. Thanks for going in open minded and making quality content, like always . ❤️
JUST OPENED RUclips TO WATCH SOMETHING AND MY FAVOURITE RUclipsR JUST UPLOADED OMFG Leoni you're the best for real
ahh i hope you enjoy the video!
@@TheBookLeo I did🥰🥰
i just finished the book last week so this video is perfect!!
A lot of the critics you had, Olivie herself mentioned in her newest video and how helpful an editor has been. Apparently the new version being published by Tor will be different from the first, so I think it will improve so much
Oh boy… I just bought this book like 10 days ago.
I’m a chemical engineer. I’m kinda picky about my science-influenced books, and by that I mean science-influenced magic systems in fantasy 😂 I hate it if they’re not accurate and I hate it when they’re pretentious trying to be “smart” when in reality it makes no sense.
Now I’m nervous 😬
Loved your perspective on this book! So far, every single book recommendation i've gotten from Tiktok has just been ... disappointing to say the least (touch of darkness, looking at you) which is why i'm staying very far away from reading any books off booktok. Your video was a great way to know whether the book would actually be good without having to live through hours of disappointment while reading it myself lol
I’ve been looking for something similar to kingsman too,but had to settle for the novelisation of the second movie.
This novel intrigues me but I'm really reluctant to pick up self-published books because, well, editors exist for a reason 🤷♀️ and your video seems to confirm my doubts so idk now... anyway, thanks for talking about this book and giving me more clarity!
I literally screamed when I saw this video.😂 I finished this book last weekend and I loved it!❤ Although I do agree with your criticism, nothing really bothered me that much. Perhaps my expectations were not as high. I did wish there was more happening though, I wanted to read more about their lectures, more danger scenes etc. But this book had REALLY good characters, I loved them all and I also ship them all together.🤭 Overall I thought it was a really promising first book and I cannot wait till the second one comes out. I really want to know what happens to these characters.
Yay! I absolutely love your videos❤
I literally love your booktube channel 💓💯
ahh thank you so much!
The light scenario is hilarious! I am glad you chose to keep it in video :)
But yes, I completely agree with your assessment of Atlas Six. I love dark academia, but I am struggling with this book! It definitely has me pausing a lot.. In comparison, I found Babel by R.F. Kuang to be unputdownable!
ohhh I waited to hear your opinion about this book so much!
I also seen it all over tiktok and already ordered it, but waiting for a delivery to my country takes foreeeeeever
now I am a little bit more scared to read it but at the same time can't wait, when will it finally arrive 😣
Hello, I am very excited to read this book, this week the author anunced that the book is going to be published traditional in march, with hardcover and with the text reviewed. So I think I will wait for the reviewed version, kisses 💜
Do full videos on every dark academia book you have read? 😅please pretty please!!! Full videos!
The power outage bit where your light kept going off and on was my favorite part of this video.
I need to wait till March 2022 when the edited version is released. As an editor, I can't read a book that in need of an edit, no matter how pretty the art is and how the characters are so shippable. (I saw some asked for labels on the character sketches because they weren't labeled. WTF?)
I just finished that books yesterday and I loved it! I have some points from a perspective of a librarian on it, and did have some hang-ups, but I ended up giving it a 4 star because I did thoroughly enjoy it and the philosphical debates it had. But I'm also not a very "visual" reader, so some things that bother others kind of.... makes it better for me lmao
That was fun. Thank you!
I’ve noticed a lot of the Tik Tok books recommended are just okay. They are entertaining which is great. I started reading again because of Book Tok but I’ve since moved on to different recommendations from friends and people on Book Tube with much better luck and more rewarding and engaging stories. If that makes sense.
lol i read this book after you mentioned it in passing in one of your older videos. all you said was 'its dark academia" and i was like yes lets go! so i'm really glad i didnt have any expectations or idea of what it was about going in -- i ended up really enjoying it.
and like tiktok does recommend good books, but the way its talked about and the parts that they hype up really just sets the book up to disappoint so i totally understand how this fell flat with you. It's a shame tho.
whenever i watch your videos, i feel like buying lots and lots of books and just read and talk about it. 😂
Did anyone notice her vibrato while she sang about the lights being off? That was so good!
I guess when you've read more and more than one genre you'd see the faults and inconsistencies of a book. Like if you're an avid sci-fi or fantasy reader or just someone who has a good enough knowledge of how scienc-y things are explained you'd be disappointed by others that define physics like how you said it was described here.. well i am wary of booktok recommendations, have to listen to Leonie and other booktubers I love before I invest in a physical copy
Not a "Physics expert" per se, but a Physics student looking for her next fantasy fix. I shall also ENDURE the PAIN of reading this GREAT-SOUNDING book... for SCIENCE, of course.
I love your earrings ❤️❤️
the way I screamed when you started talking Dutch-
Ahh Leonie~~ when you first introduced us this book I was excited. Now? Idk man 🤣 I'm an electrical engineering undergrad so hehe maybe I should read it to see if it actually is physics-y enough 🤭 but all of that aside. The premise is still good and I think I still want to read it just for fun!
Lol im back after reading it. Its fun. I did really enjoy it. But it's not the intellectual book people are making it out to be. It doesn't delve into anything "sciencey" ( for lack of better term). I would recommend it FOR FUN. Rather than a big academia style book.
I should clarify, I read the updated TOR version
I know this was 2 years ago but I just read the book and I really enjoyed it. Yeah I had to google a lot of words (English is not my first language) but I found the whole story so interesting and the chemistry between the characters is just chefs kiss!!!
please do more of these 😂
Thank you for no spoilers❤
Love your content
That spider plant looks healthy!
I loved that "tiktok but better video", so many gems! I wonder if there is a "but better" science-magic system!
Also, thanks for saving me a disappointment with the magic system. It sounds like the author wanted a science system very badly but knew almost nothing about science. It reminds me of Feyra from ACOTAR being passionate about painting but SJM clearly not knowing much about making of art. On the flip side Addie Larue is clearly so absorbed with art that it is clear how much VE Schwab enjoys museums and humanism and it was so clear how much it meant to Addie abd Schwab to tell their stories. I wonder is it laziness from some authors or is it just being unfamiliar with the subject...
Really love your book reviews...I think you would like the love hypothesis by Ali hazel wood...really good academia,STEM rom com book(not dark tho😅)
“...my will to live” omg how relatable
I hope that it does well. I enjoyed, but I'm easy. Thx Leonie.
the vibes of this video make me want to read this book more so than the vibes of the book itself lol
DID SHE JUST SAY «KINGSMAN: THE SECRET SERVICE» VIBES😀 as in MY FAVOURITE MOVIE OF ALL TIME?! YUP, IM BUYING IT RN
omg ive been thinking ALLL books should come with little character sheet with a drawing of the character and some like basic bullet points, cuz i have a hard time imagining characters sometimes
More like this please 🥺🥺
Very glad I watched this before I read the book. I still wanted to read it but I was more prepared for the reality of it rather than the hype. I appreciate that. As someone with a physics background, this is super vague. An attempt was made but really, they create the thing and it should be amazing but it's only mentioned in passing. I feel like the book could have been written entirely without magic and still been the same kind of character study. Oh, and I totally agree that you could ship any character with any other character. 😂 That is quite the feat!
Sooo.... I heard all the hype about this book too, then I read it and gave it two stars. Found it far too shallow for what it tried to accomplish. Feels good to be kind of validated by your video!
I thoroughly enjoyed the book! I came at it from the perspective of “what is the main theme and how well does the book tackle that theme?” I think it did a great job of it. In my opinion, it’s main themes are “the price of knowledge” and “how does power corrupt”. Both of those themes are approached in an interesting and unique way. Is it perfect? No. But is it worth picking up to see if you enjoy the writing style and the plot? I think so!
I completed this book today and I loved it very very much but it's definitely not found family. And that's the best part. I loved how they are all morally grey.
Omg when you had no electricity and internet that has happened to me several times in uni. Is awful. One time right before a calculus test haha