A Glissando Saxophone?!
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Join Jim as he checks out the Glissonic Glissotar. Fusing elements of the Hungarian tárogáto and the soprano saxophone the Glissotar introduces a unique system for producing glissando throughout its range.
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⏰Timestamps ⏰
0:00 Intro
2:00 The Design
4:39 Playing the Glissotar
8:38 The History
10:20 Sound Effects
11:20 Who is the Glissotar For?
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It’s a fretless saxophone
fret no more
Lol perfect explanation
Fantastic
Lmao
Genius joke
This instrument will be a hit in India one day.
Agreed
I love that there’s a “real instrument” that sounds a bit like a synth lead now.
Try the Roli keyboard.
Acoustic instrument, man. lol.
Before he played this, I thought it was electronic! But it is acoustic!
A synth is a real instrument you mindless heathen.
@@ciro_costa or say like analog
I saw a video once of a slide soprano saxophone with two octave keys from the 1920s which had a leather strap with holes in the strap where the notes are and a long hole similar to that Glissando and you play it the same way. The twanging sound had me taken aback a bit. Love the effects you can get from that instrument.
Is it this video? Around 7:30?
ruclips.net/video/p-b6I1ihh2s/видео.htmlsi=7omHk1YhkvopL_Tm
That sounds interesting. I'd be interested to see that. Yes, the effects with the Glissotar are something else.
@@saxworldwide There are two vintage saxophones capable of glissandi in the video of Paul Cohen's sax on the US Army Field Band channel. One has a slide similar to a trombone, and the other has a slit and leather strip just like the Glissotar.
Need to see king gizzard (and the lizard wizard) use the Glissotar
King Glizzard
@@lukejohnston5566king glizzy
It’s so cool to see a new instrument that feels genuine & unique. Like it doesn’t feel like it was created just for the sake of creating it, there is like an actual use for it
It's a theramin for wind players! Fantastic and inovative.
Not quite, the theremin doesn't provide any tactile feedback, so developing muscle memory associated with correct tone is much more difficult. This is closer to a fretless guitar with a single string, so it wouldn't quite take that long to learn to play in tune.
@@NicolasConnaultone could also say that its like a trombone slide but adapted for saxophone
Trombone players: “see what they need just to match a fraction of our power”
I imagine a string player would have an advantage in intonation.
It's like the fretless bass version of a soprano saxophone. This will be great for film scores!
I kinda want to hear Herald of the Change played on it
It sounds cheap.😂
That is such a clever idea. I dig it! I have a feeling a string player could pick that up surprisingly well.
Or a trombone player....
Amazing,not only does it sound like a snake charmers dream come true,you also have the added benefit of using the belt to hold your trousers up if they fall down on stage.
ha ha
If played correctly, your trouser snake should suffice.
I remember hearing about this through Bart Hopkin, who independently invented the design, but he's more about building wind instruments out of common materials like pvc and balloons, more of a DIY approach. Nobody was litigious because they recognized they were doing different things with the concept.
YEAH, I remember Bart Hopkin's version. It's cool that someone actually made a proper production-line version of this. I was astounded that such an ingenious method of pitch control hadn't been popularized yet.
Nice to know there's no bad blood between the two inventors.
One unexpected advantage is that it can be played by left or right handed performers all the same.
So can a regular sax. (If you're thinking about switching the hand positions to play "left handed" that would still be a bad idea: Note the placement of the octave keys.)
So can many instruments…
The disadvantage being that it sounds like a duck in a Tom and Jerry cartoon.
I want to see a classical saxophonist play it and see how that beautiful pure sound of it is!
не увидишь,это игрушка для ретардов,как автор видоса
5:33 the creator of the instrument actually plays it in the video lol.
@@user-wm6bm8gh3g Я считаю, что это самый элитарный комментарий, который я когда-либо читал.
@@anidiot4702the purity of sound is a main characteristic of classical players. I have the most admiration for diverse sounds but I would be interested to see it an a slightly different execution as what I hear in this video is done with a jazz embouchure. Your hate is totally speculative.
Amazing design! I would love to see how Turkish makam music will be played on it. Congrats!
I have played trombone for 40 years. My in-laws found an Albert system clarinet in the attic of a house they purchased and I tried to learn to play it. I liked making the clarinet sound but was not really interested in spending the time to learn fingerings. I think given my history this would be a great instrument to own.
Bravo, Daniel Vaczi! Beautiful Instrument! So proud of you! :) Mate Palhegyi
Köszönöm, Máté!
When you move your hands up and down the instrument, you also have to change the distance between the fingers if the intention is to continue playing in chromatic steps.
That's absolutely correct. I didn't explain this in the video, but I found this to be the case when I was experimenting. When I listen back to my first chromatic clip - A to G# I realise that the interval I'm playing is too wide! Jim
snake and basket included ?
The weird thing is once you start playing they automatically appear out of nowhere
😂 comes with the package
Ha ...! 8:40
It needs a semi automatic 8ve mechanism (like most oboes have) so you can hold the lower touch down and nudge the upper one so the lower vent will close automatically when the upper vent opens as you can't have both 8ve vents open at the same time.
Very impressive! A new reed instrument! And this woody sound, this innovative "mechanism", these new sounds... I can't wait to hear how far musicians and composers will go to explore this new instrument! ❤️🎶🎵🎷
Thank you Franck - I agree.
Hungarian inventor, hell yeah!
the way this fills me with so much joy like literally wtf
Hi, Hungarian here :)
Small correction for the description. It's spelled "tárogató" :) Also when you pronounce it, the stress is on the first syllable.
Great video!
bloody 'ell, i came up with exactly this when i was twelve, and everyone told me it was a rubbish idea.
you had the 1% inspiration. Shame you didn't follow through with the 99% perspiration part.
Never believe your peers unless they have empirical and peer-reviewed evidence 🎉
@@ruby71997 And even then...
@@MattNolanCustom the 1% is worth much, much MUCH more than the 99%. the ideas guy should get all the credit, those who create it for them less so. This is obvious.
@@Slasha00seemingly our inventor didn't value their 1% enough to do anything about it though
It reminds me of those Otamatone toys.
I was just about to say that
This isn't a new concept, I have book by Bart Hopkin from 1996 on instrument design that features this design on page 80.
Very nice to see such a high quality build!
I was actively looking through the comments to see if anyone mentioned Bart Hopkin. Glad to see you bring him up here.
Years ago, I remember seeing a video of him demonstrating a sort of clarinet equivalent (the “Moe”, I think he called it?) and I always wanted one from that day forward.
That's super interesting, it's cool to see a new approach to instrument design. I love that purple heart tone!
I’ve actually seen something like this in a video from The United States Army Field Band RUclips channel in a video called “Unheard of instruments in the saxophone family”. Great video showcasing some amazing instruments. At about 7:12 in the video they show off a slide saxophone from the 1920’s that has a leather strap and a slit!
Thanks for the great video, you have done a great job of playing this new instrument. I was amazed at how well it works and I can imagine the technical challenges that had to be overcome to get to this point. Kudos to the inventor and those involved in the production. I imaging a full service and pad replacement will be pretty fast🙂
Fantastic innovation..! Very very interesting...! Watching from São Paulo, Brazil..!
Definitely duduk sounding!😊
I can imagine 7\8 freejazz in a bar with this instrument and leaving the place immediately.
Ordered mine last year, arriving next week!
From where and how much?
What a cool instrument ! I'm waiting so bad for the clarinet version 😀
Es un saxo sin trastes!❤
I'm a trombone guy, so naturally I have an opinion on the term "glissando" and a wind instrument. That said, I do love saxophones! I think this instrument sounds like a kinda out of tune sax and a bit like a kazoo, especially on the glissando part. Interesting idea!
Trombonists have little difficulty switching to the theramin.
Does a Sax ever sound in "tune"?
@@crankjazz Go listen to Tuba Skinny
I used to have a playette, which was good fun. Used a coil for pitch control.
Sounds great. Reminds me of the duduk. Will be difficult to master though.
Such a simplistic design but so cool.
Pretty much sounds like the time i put a sax mouthpiece on my trombone
Ooooo, now I want one! I play clarinet, sax, and bass guitar….. this is like the fretless bass of the sax world. The upper register part sounds a lot like a Middle Eastern shawm or similar.
Great for Hindustani or Maqaam music! Thanks for posting
You're welcome
Exactly what I thought when I saw it. I was considering getting an oud despite being hopeless on strings but now I'm so happy there's a fretless woodwind
This would be a good cross over for a string player to get into winds.
Is it possible to mark the glissando for intonation? Or does the glissando stretch over time and need to be tightened?
The new Trombone of the woodwind family.
Sounds very ethnic.
Intonation on a "fretless" instrument is a life task.
You should try vibrato in a similar fashion that other string instruments by rolling your finger across the equivalent fretboard
A fridge magnet violin saxophone? Awesome! 😊
Very interesting! I used to yearn to be able to play my sax like my fretless bass. I'm now much more of a keyboard player but still.. wow. I would have liked a bit more about how it does this - there is a glimpse of the underlying mechanism at around 11:09 when the inventor raises the strap for an effect but there must be more to it!
It's very simple really. The slot underneath the ribbon is a neat cut away with perfectly placed magnetic strips either side of it. If you press down anywhere on the ribbon you can guarantee that the riboon will seal perfectly and produce the note dictated by the tube length at that point. It's true to say the resistance of the ribbon increases towards the lower portion of the instrument. Jim
Interesting potential.
amazing idea.
i wonder if something like membrane clarinet mouthpiece will suit it better
(if the pitch depends only on your fingering than playing precise would be simpler, but vibrato would also be confined to fingers. decent trade-off for me personally as a strings player, lol)
maybe one could also add some markers on a "fretboard" as a visual aid
the world has been waiting for this ...
Man I want one of those to play maqam
WoW ❤
Big kazoo BIG KAZOOO BIG KAZOZOZOZOZOOOOOO
YES AHAHAHA the professional player makes it sound much better, but i think this needs to be an Alto, Tenor, or Baritone instrument, soprano is too high
Not technically a new instrument, I believe it was Selmer who released a similar concept of saxophone in the early 1900’s. The army saxophone guys did a video with a guy who owned one in his collection.
With a bendable, magnetic belt?
@@Bob94390 the technology may be different, but the concept was the same; that is, it was a soprano saxophone-like shape, with a belt of leather used to adjust the pitch. Essentially it was one of the first perfect (in the sense of playing between the twelve western pitches) saxophone constructed. The link to the video is listed below: start at 7:18
ruclips.net/video/p-b6I1ihh2s/видео.html
*Edit, it was a King Saxophone, not Selmer
@@onlinetheory5115 Probably a fartofone. I used to keep a human flatulist on the team, 800 years ago. Look up Roland the Farter - actually, don't, you'll regret the experience. Me? Last heard of licenced by the Magistrates of the fair City of Chester to bash me nakers lewdly in public without let or hindrance of the Police for the following year. Drummers...
@@JelMainBro, what 😂
Very curious indeed
Sounds to have a great potential for film score. To produce this distortion in acoustic instead of a lot of plugins.
Bart Hopkin has instructions for building for this type of instrument from his design books of the 90's. The importance of recognizing the development history is that sufficiently motivated people can make these for themselves for very little material cost and they sound terrific. They can ALSO use different mouthpieces and body shapes to make recorders, various clarinets and flutes. It is exciting to hear that the makers referenced in this video are aiming for a whole glissando orchestra...which will help liberate composers into entirely new forms. But it needn't be costly, do-it-yourself groups can open source this stuff and get started now!
Question, are microtones possible to strike exactly (such as quarter-tones) or does the magnets always adjust to equal-temperament?
it seems pretty clear to me that there is no "snap to" pitch going on with this. So sure, with skill and practice, you can hit any microtone you like
Correct@@MattNolanCustom
Wow, I haven't even watched but this video already looks interesting 😂
mmmhhh,,,, would like to try it 🙂
This looks amazing, I like anything a bit more unusual and would love to own one
It's just trying to justify the cost 😅
As a fretless bass player this would drive me nuts
cant wait to hear it on the dune 3 soundtrack
I immediately want the Starwars Cantina Song played on this.
It should be slightly curved upwards in such way that the strip will end almost at the same height from the surface at the bottom.
Slightly higher at the end to provide more venting for lower notes.
In such way the force needed to press lower notes will be less. And the largest distance from the strip to surface will be at center.
If you put the equivalent of fret markers as they are on a fretless guitar, I'd be very interested
I notice it has a much more eastern sound. very interesting!
That’s actually really interesting. Though I bet, if you put four of them together they will sound nowhere like a sax quartet 😂 Still a refreshing idea, really well engineered!
Imagine the Middle eastern music this could make hebrew and arabic macams and scales would be sick on this
nice! time to work up those erhu pieces
I couldn't remember all the keys! could this help?
I was expecting you to demonstrate violin-style vibrato. Is that possible?
I was waiting for the same. From a physics perspective, I think it should be possible. The belt seems to be sufficiently flexible and under sufficient tension to be able to follow a shaking hand.
Jim seems to be a good saxophone player and therefore used to making vibrato in saxophonic ways, so I guess it didn't feel natural for him to use hand vibrato.
@@Bob94390 Right, I thought that. However, I would expect finger vibrato to sound different than breath/embouchure vibrato, so I was curious. Also, violin-style portamento (slide transitioning to leap with a different finger) seems like a possibility.
Perfect for Indian Classical Music.
Star treck needs this ..! 10:51
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my experience with sax players tells me that we need a sax that won't let you do this. One of my old teachers said scooping is for ice cream.
what he hell are you talking about?
Waiting for an orchestra to use this and do rhapsody in blue
I can finally play the gliss in careless whisperer 🤣
It looked to me in the clip of the inventor playing that he was using more the knuckles of his fingers to play rather than the tips.
I hope they’ve sent one to Jan Garbarek 💪
they made these in the 20's. dr. cohen, that guy who collects weird saxes and did that video with the army quartet, has one.
Where is Your store located at?
I'm hearing a truly silly amount of musical potential here. Soundwise it's a bit like having a fretless clarinet. But you kind of have access to way more spaces than that implies.
I'd be curious to hear variants without that particular undertone this size and shape has. I think its conical quality really keys it into a specific space in the background of everything you play. But again, the potential to play truly new things because of this is super exciting!
It reminds me of Oriental music. Im sure it would work very wall as an instrument in Oriental style music.
Who is going to design the first capo for this thing?
I have to get one ! How about a glissando flute? Glissando bugle lol !! I am a serious player. I play brass, woodwinds, and strings hahaha !
Apparently there will other instruments to follow, as part of the Glissonic family - the flute appears to be in the pipeline
This may have been invented by Bart Hopkin. On his website you can see his 'moe' instruments use the same exact principal.
Of course the best use of this is in free intonation microtonal music
This is so cool and I don't even play sax
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned how this instrument could play some really cool microtonal passages with relative ease.
In the video we hear more or less intended microtonality...
The tone is a cross between sax, duduk, zourna, and ... synth with a pitch wheel?
Saxophone, Clarinet mix!
As a trombone player who owns and can play some alto sax... i found this very interesting
Rahsaan Roland Kirk would have seriously dug that.
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I like the concept very much. To my surprise I don't like the sound of the glissando's much.
Ralph Carney called his a Woogie.