One can only hope. No books of any kind that pay a percentage to trump should be allowed. Perhaps the supt. Should be voted out of office or impeached. Did I understand that the funds would be taken from monies set for teachers salary? If so doing the Christian thing what percentage of his salary is he willing to give up as a tithing?
@@jasonaltig985 Who is forcing anything? no one. Period. The Bibles are there for who ever wants to read them. There not forced. They use to be forced in the 20s to 50s but now, people have the right to have access to Gods word. God is not a mythology he is your father who created you.
@@GameCreatorOfGod the directive says the teachers will teach out of the Bible so no, it is not just there for those who want to read it. If that were the case then they should be fine with having it in the li try. This along with his Ten Commandments in every classroom is overtly pushing religion. That should be obvious.
I don’t think it’s a bad idea to read , teach or have bibles in the schools. It doesn’t mean kids have to practice Christianity. It might be the only opportunity for all of these kids to hear about it. But, I can understand what they are saying. Bible classes were offered in school when I was young. I attended. I enjoyed the classes. So maybe there is room for compromise here.
I had Mr. Walters as my AP History teacher for two years in high school and he was never forceful as far as religion goes he simply stated that the Christian faith has a lot of influence on many events in American history and in many other places in the world but he also taught us the histories of many of the worlds other faiths and religions
People change... or he was constrained by rules that did not allow him to act crazy. Just look at JD Vance who once said Trump is American's Hitler, to now being his VP running mate. The sad thing is Trump did not change. So either JD does not care, or decided that Hitler was not that bad. All Ryan Walters is doing is shooting for Secretary of Education if Trump gets elected. That is why he is trying to funnel 3 to 6 million into the Trump Bible.
No disrespect protected by the first amendment of religion so you’re telling me this might be a problem, putting Bibles and all schools that are public so what happens if they file the lawsuit if it was a private school that is required by Christian schools to have Bibles then when then would you have a problem?
No because it’s a Christian school that’s different. However for the rest of us and especially people of other faiths shouldn’t be forced to learn the bible. Can you imagine a Jewish child going to school and being taught the Bible . Muslims , Hindu, Catholic etc . There is always a copy of the Bible in the library for students to read.
Because it's a clear and blatant violation of the Constitution. You can't force your religion down everyone's throats, that's no better than Leftists forcing gender ideology down everyone's throats.
Sure, kids don't need free lunch, teachers don't always need supplies but as long as they have expensive Bibles sold by a conman you're okay with it. How Christian of you.
@@pillfairie as you are obviously not familiar with the Bible or it's various versions I will help your ignorance. Book of Matthew chapter 7 verse 20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." The previous verses give more understanding to verse 20 but I'm not going to type all that out. Look in a King James version Bible and read it for yourself.
@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 Honey I was raised in the Pentecostal church which is exactly why I'm wary of anything Christian. It says Matthews 7 16-20: "16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." What's your point dear? What's that supposed to mean to anyone that isn't a Christian?
They reject God by rejecting His Ten Commandment Law. They are rejecting the One who allows us to have the breath of life. One of the biggest lies is that the ten commandments aren't valid for us today. The 4th is not a day only for the Jews. Ten Commandments are for everyone, especially the 4th. ❤
I think your god is a fake. What's now? The beauty of the US Constitution is that I am free to believe whatever deity I want or not believe in any god, and you have no way to say in what I believe.
The Bible has a lot of history in it. Why sould it not be available for study (as any other (non-porn) book? It shouldn't be mandated as a "religious" adherence (that should be a choice at home). But it should be an option to study &/or reference.
You know, it’s hard to understand how anybody would not see the problem here. Why don’t we teach the Bible that the Jehovah’s Witnesses have? Or do we teach the Bible that the Catholics have? I would not be surprised in the slightest if you don’t even know that there are Bibles with more books in them than other Bibles because they used to be a lot more books of the Bible until past religious leaders went through and decided which ones they thought were valid and which ones were not. My guess is you probably know little about this subject, and if you do happen to know about it you don’t seem to think in an objective way. And it also makes me chuckle that you say a non-porn book, what about all the incest mentioned in the Bible? I start teaching that. Again, would not be surprised if you didn’t even know about it. And just now teaching sex to children can be a good thing it could also be used to manipulate children in a very easy way. Exact same thing with the Bible. Yet you’re too blind to understand this.
The Establishment Clause of the US Constitution is the Separation of Church and State. Using Tax Payer money to force religion on children is a Violation of said clause. If you want the Bible taught in Schools, that is what Parochial Schools are for. Public education is not for Religious Indoctrination. Also which version of the Good Book should we be using, Greek Orthodox, King James or Trump? Because the key point everyone is missing is that Walters is funneling Taxpayer Money to Trump via his Bibles.
You know, it’s hard to understand how anybody would not see the problem here. Why don’t we teach the Bible that the Jehovah’s Witnesses have? Or do we teach the Bible that the Catholics have? I would not be surprised in the slightest if you don’t even know that there are Bibles with more books in them than other Bibles because they used to be a lot more books of the Bible until past religious leaders went through and decided which ones they thought were valid and which ones were not. My guess is you probably know little about this subject, and if you do happen to know about it you don’t seem to think in an objective way. And it also makes me chuckle that you say a non-porn book, what about all the incest mentioned in the Bible? I start teaching that. Again, would not be surprised if you didn’t even know about it. And just now teaching sex to children can be a good thing it could also be used to manipulate children in a very easy way. Exact same thing with the Bible. Yet you’re too blind to understand this.b
Once you get started here, youve allowed the government to decide and they'll keep deciding
Not all Christians are fake. Thank God.
Goodbye Walters, first of many new lawsuits.
One can only hope. No books of any kind that pay a percentage to trump should be allowed. Perhaps the supt. Should be voted out of office or impeached. Did I understand that the funds would be taken from monies set for teachers salary? If so doing the Christian thing what percentage of his salary is he willing to give up as a tithing?
If Walters wants the Bibles so bad, he should pay for them himself
It doesnt matter who pays for them , they do NOT belong in a public school mandating that teachers have to teach out of them .
smdh
What doesn't he understand about the separation of church and state?
We have every right to serve and learn about God.
@@GameCreatorOfGod You personally, do indeed have that right. The government does not have the authority to shove it down its citizens throat.
@@GameCreatorOfGodof course you do. Who is stopping you? You do not however have the right to force your mythology on others.
@@jasonaltig985 Who is forcing anything? no one. Period. The Bibles are there for who ever wants to read them. There not forced. They use to be forced in the 20s to 50s but now, people have the right to have access to Gods word. God is not a mythology he is your father who created you.
@@GameCreatorOfGod the directive says the teachers will teach out of the Bible so no, it is not just there for those who want to read it. If that were the case then they should be fine with having it in the li try. This along with his Ten Commandments in every classroom is overtly pushing religion. That should be obvious.
Good this needs to go to court.
Good work keep fighting. Bring Bibles back to school to teach our foundation of our fathers who start this country
Something tells me this guy will be Trumps Sec of Eduction which will be called the...
God help us
I don’t think it’s a bad idea to read , teach or have bibles in the schools. It doesn’t mean kids have to practice Christianity. It might be the only opportunity for all of these kids to hear about it. But, I can understand what they are saying. Bible classes were offered in school when I was young. I attended. I enjoyed the classes. So maybe there is room for compromise here.
I had Mr. Walters as my AP History teacher for two years in high school and he was never forceful as far as religion goes he simply stated that the Christian faith has a lot of influence on many events in American history and in many other places in the world but he also taught us the histories of many of the worlds other faiths and religions
Stop making excuses for him.
He says one thing like that to hide his agenda of forcing his religion onto everyone else in a clear violation of the Constitution.
Neat anecdote. What does that have to do with him trying to force it now?
People change... or he was constrained by rules that did not allow him to act crazy. Just look at JD Vance who once said Trump is American's Hitler, to now being his VP running mate. The sad thing is Trump did not change. So either JD does not care, or decided that Hitler was not that bad. All Ryan Walters is doing is shooting for Secretary of Education if Trump gets elected. That is why he is trying to funnel 3 to 6 million into the Trump Bible.
Imagine if it was Korans?
No disrespect protected by the first amendment of religion so you’re telling me this might be a problem, putting Bibles and all schools that are public so what happens if they file the lawsuit if it was a private school that is required by Christian schools to have Bibles then when then would you have a problem?
No because it’s a Christian school that’s different. However for the rest of us and especially people of other faiths shouldn’t be forced to learn the bible. Can you imagine a Jewish child going to school and being taught the Bible . Muslims , Hindu, Catholic etc . There is always a copy of the Bible in the library for students to read.
He is possessed. He has no place in our children’s lives.
People fighting this issue don’t seem to mind spending taxpayers dollars on any and everything else,what’s the difference ⁉️🤷♂️ 🇺🇸🦅🙏🏻
Because it's a clear and blatant violation of the Constitution. You can't force your religion down everyone's throats, that's no better than Leftists forcing gender ideology down everyone's throats.
Sure, kids don't need free lunch, teachers don't always need supplies but as long as they have expensive Bibles sold by a conman you're okay with it. How Christian of you.
Are any of those other things forcing religion on children? I would say that is a pretty major difference.
What about the lie about evolution? this is also pushed????????
Yeah because it's based on actual and actively studied, as well as actual physical evidence of it.
@@bingusbongus1656 It is based on lies and you think this way because of indoctrination. No real evidence at all, all fake made up stuff.
😂😂😂 You have no business in adult business.
All I know is that eventually That woman that claims to be a reverend is going to regret everything she has done.
Claims to be a Rev? As opposed to all the other humans making the same claim?
@@pillfairie ye shall be known by your works......her works do not support the title of reverend.
@@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195ye shall use odd phrases to make thy opinions project more plausibility
@@pillfairie as you are obviously not familiar with the Bible or it's various versions I will help your ignorance. Book of Matthew chapter 7 verse 20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." The previous verses give more understanding to verse 20 but I'm not going to type all that out. Look in a King James version Bible and read it for yourself.
@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 Honey I was raised in the Pentecostal church which is exactly why I'm wary of anything Christian. It says Matthews 7 16-20:
"16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."
What's your point dear? What's that supposed to mean to anyone that isn't a Christian?
They reject God by rejecting His Ten Commandment Law.
They are rejecting the One who allows us to have the breath of life.
One of the biggest lies is that the ten commandments aren't valid for us today. The 4th is not a day only for the Jews. Ten Commandments are for
everyone, especially the 4th. ❤
Prove it then please?
I think your god is a fake. What's now? The beauty of the US Constitution is that I am free to believe whatever deity I want or not believe in any god, and you have no way to say in what I believe.
😂 😂 😂
This is a lie. Ryan Walters is participating in a Grift with Fmr. Prresident Trump.
Millions of Christians are going to vote for an unrepentent adulterer and fornicator for president. They're full of bull.
The Bible has a lot of history in it. Why sould it not be available for study (as any other (non-porn) book? It shouldn't be mandated as a "religious" adherence (that should be a choice at home). But it should be an option to study &/or reference.
None of it is true.
@@jimchoate6912
You have proof of that - right?
You know, it’s hard to understand how anybody would not see the problem here. Why don’t we teach the Bible that the Jehovah’s Witnesses have? Or do we teach the Bible that the Catholics have? I would not be surprised in the slightest if you don’t even know that there are Bibles with more books in them than other Bibles because they used to be a lot more books of the Bible until past religious leaders went through and decided which ones they thought were valid and which ones were not. My guess is you probably know little about this subject, and if you do happen to know about it you don’t seem to think in an objective way.
And it also makes me chuckle that you say a non-porn book, what about all the incest mentioned in the Bible? I start teaching that. Again, would not be surprised if you didn’t even know about it.
And just now teaching sex to children can be a good thing it could also be used to manipulate children in a very easy way. Exact same thing with the Bible. Yet you’re too blind to understand this.
The Establishment Clause of the US Constitution is the Separation of Church and State. Using Tax Payer money to force religion on children is a Violation of said clause.
If you want the Bible taught in Schools, that is what Parochial Schools are for. Public education is not for Religious Indoctrination.
Also which version of the Good Book should we be using, Greek Orthodox, King James or Trump? Because the key point everyone is missing is that Walters is funneling Taxpayer Money to Trump via his Bibles.
@@QuietAZdesert no, y'all don't get to appeal to ignorance, the burden of proof is on _you_
Go Ryan W.!
Go where, to hell?
HA delete my comment huh I say again where is he supposed to go, to hell??😊
Yes, Ryan, please go, the people of Oklahoma deserve better.
@@algru5251 move to Massachusetts or California if it’s so bad 😂
You know, it’s hard to understand how anybody would not see the problem here. Why don’t we teach the Bible that the Jehovah’s Witnesses have? Or do we teach the Bible that the Catholics have? I would not be surprised in the slightest if you don’t even know that there are Bibles with more books in them than other Bibles because they used to be a lot more books of the Bible until past religious leaders went through and decided which ones they thought were valid and which ones were not. My guess is you probably know little about this subject, and if you do happen to know about it you don’t seem to think in an objective way.
And it also makes me chuckle that you say a non-porn book, what about all the incest mentioned in the Bible? I start teaching that. Again, would not be surprised if you didn’t even know about it.
And just now teaching sex to children can be a good thing it could also be used to manipulate children in a very easy way. Exact same thing with the Bible. Yet you’re too blind to understand this.b