Likely won’t for while Shinano is nearly the same size as Yamato, therefore the devs would mostly only have to edit the Yamato model in-game, but still this poses a problem for concealment, so when it gets added it’s likely going to go through a lot of changes to find the best concealment.
@@lanz2828think ot would be good to add her as a premium ship Because many of her characteristics are simular to Hakuryu. And I think we can give her a special abilitly to make her difference.
I look back at this vid and the style of playing the planes, and I want these old days I never experienced back… Controlling the air groups is fun, but…
Fun history fact: The Taiho was hit by an American submariner's torpedo (1 out of the 6 it launched hit). The attack did virtually no damage to the ship. However it cracked a fuel tank designated for fighters. A few hours later she blew up.
***** No, this was during the Battle of the Philippine Sea. She was sunk by USS Albacore. You're likely thinking of how Shinano was sunk by the submarine USS Archerfish (with 4 torpedoes).
I don't think they realise the heavy casualties taken by torpedo bombers against AA fire. There's a reason later in the war Dive-Bombers became more used. Sure you have a torpedo that's going to do a lot of damage,(Bombs don't do enough presently) but in real-life you'd be lucky to survive the attack run. And here is an advantage to the Japanese Carriers, longer running torps, your planes aren't under fire as long.
It would be great to have the choice to change the loadout on your air groups before each match without (instead of) having it be a module purchase requirement. How nice to say "I'll be in attack mode this match" and not be stuck with it in the future without paying to make a change.
AeroSpaceNews.com Oh yeah! it'd also be cool if there's a similar option that can be done in WoT as well. Like the pz4h for example; you can decide whether you'd go for the standard l/43 for orthodox med gameplay, or the 105mm if there are are a lot of low tier enemies - right before the match! OAO
Matthew Moen But only after the initial purchase, right? You can't change from the default configuration unless you first purchase the other air wing package module. Or am I missing something?
That's what I thought. I'd tried to explain the without purchase thing in my OP - just seems kinda uncool to have to pay for it as it is not an upgrade - just a different mission configuration.
you forgot to mention the part about how mm screws you a lot as a carrier captain. Enemy carrier has a tier up on you and has fighters? well you're screwed. They have a tier 6 and a tier 5 against your tier 5 and a 4? you're screwed.
The old carriers were so much better than the new ones. I dont think anyone likes the change. Please revert the carriers to their original tactical and interesting gameplay.
"United States and Japan" were the first to realize the power of carrier aviation? It was actually Britain. Jackie Fisher had HMS Glorious (I might be wrong on the name) converted to a fighter carrier before any of the carriers in the game were commissioned. And the US didn't realize it until after Pearl Harbor...
GintaPPE1000 Well, the Japanese see the true potential of naval aviation when their world first light carrier Hosho commissioned (built by the British as well), in early Pacific War, Kido Butai (1st Carrier Fleet) considered the world most powerful carrier fleet with 6 large carriers and 4 light carriers with over 400 aircrafts, 1500 veterans and experiences pilots, they utilizing their fast fighter, TBs and DBs and successfully decimated entire British Eastern Fleets (somewhat half of the Royal Navy power) and some Dutch Colonies Navy as well, they're unstoppable, sad to see how Royal Navy has grown weak at end of WW1 and begining of WW2. Prime minister Winston Churchill have to announced that Japanese and their air superiorty and powerful warplanes dominated the sky of Pacific, marking the end of Royal Navy power.
(I realize this is a REALLY late response, but work with me here lol) "And the US didn't realize it until after Pearl Harbor..." That's not entirely true. While the US was still building a few Battleships, They had started putting a lot more effort into Carrier design than Battleship design. That's why the 5th Iowa class wasn't finished and the 6th Iowa class and Montana Class were never built. Hell, the only reason the Iowas were built was because the US felt they needed a response to the Yamato and Musashi, as well as a powerful platform for Anti-Air support for Carriers. That's why the Iowas ended up being the fastest Battleships ever made. To keep up with and effectively support the Carriers. on top of that, the US had plenty of carriers at the start of world war 2. On December 7th 1941, the U.S. Navy had seven aircraft carriers and one aircraft escort vessel in commission. In addition to these eight ships, the keels of five other CVs had been laid.
Dive bombers need AP bombs with the ability to due citadel hits as an option. They carried them in real life. Also its long past time to restore carrier divisions.
Since a number of interceptor/fighter aircraft were capable of carrying rockets and bombs in WWII why cant we modify the individual fighter aircraft? It would be quite nice to have some versatility with the fighter aircraft though.
The thing is: Wargaming has a really nice idea to make Profit in WoWs without Premium Ammo. The Bismark will, like the Warspite, be a Premium. The ship class however, will be added to the game as normal Ship. I guess they will name it after it's sister ship.
i know this video is WAY outdated because the U.S.S. Ranger is not hear and now there are no tier V or VII carrier's there are only tier IV Langley tier VI Ranger Tier VIII Lexington Teir X Midway and Super Carier U.S.S. United states in the tech tree plus the premium carriers.
it is rated T? i mean, yes, it got some explosions... and ships sinking and getting fire meaning people dying... but kids play with toy ship on the bathroom and usually play that it is on a storm or sinking...
I wouldn't say it was US and Japan been the first ones to see the first true advantages of carrier aviation... It was the Royal Navy been the first ones with carriers and the first ones to effectively use them at Taranto (what peal harbor was based off)... Oh thats right, WoWS seems to think even the Russian navy was more important then the Royal Navy...
Nope in my opinion since CVs are meant to deal damage and now they are not a great option as it depends on opponents tier or they made the AA in high tier God level
Please make sure your matchmaker doesnt fuck up as often (matching 2vs1 CV or 0vs1 or even 1vs1 with tier differences!!!) BEFORE enabling even more derps to play these kind of ships!?
This video by now is basically useless as too much nerf and changes to how you play carriers, now aircraft carriers are just annoying (tho I am a CV main) as you are only able to launch a single squadron per flight. I kinda want their primetime back but then CVs will be too OP making me understand why they made this change.
Some ocean so your carrier isn't trapped like a rat would be nice. Nobody protects carriers, so a few bot escorts would be great too. Or make them more points so they are worth protecting. I doubt that would work though because I have escorted carriers and it sucks. You get no XP/credits and waste most of your time waiting. Totally predictable spawn points, no time to maneuver, nowhere to run, and no help from the team during the enemy's air attacks makes the match maker's role decisive in who wins the carrier duel. Later as your "team" is busy far away a DD or CA will eventually find you and blow you away provided you survive the initial air attack(s). But who cares if you survive? I prefer to be destroyed since the stupid victory conditions end the game just as it get interesting. I can't count the number of times I am really having a blast and then victory or defeat ends it suddenly. I'd rather get blown away so I can take another ship out and try to have as much fun with it as the major limitations of the game allow. I couldn't care less about the idiotic victory conditions. Domination? Stupid. Besides making zero sense and lacking imagination, the victory conditions and timer assure that you don't have time to maneuver any ships, carriers or otherwise. So the tactics have to be rush in and shoot. Maneuver and you often lose and always score no points. WoWS could be a good game, but from what I have seen from wargaming, they couldn't give a crap about improving their products. Their games provide a fair amount of entertainment, but they don't make new maps, they hate large maps, and the match making algorithm will eventually make you rage quit over and over until you realize that you are burnt out on their games. Unless grinding the tech tree does it to you first.
So in other words, no matter what happen, Japanese always loses to U.S.?? Cause most of U.S. ships totally out play a Japanese ship.... like seriously, Japan ain't weak, they did destroy Asia with ease....
Lelouch Vi Britannia Japanese only dominate half Asia during the early Pacific War (probably somewhere at 1930-1941), most of the countries they invaded are weak, defenseless and lack of resistances.
AlexNguyen138 True but still, my point is, if there's a 1 v 1 Carrier match, U.S. vs. Japan, they will lose?? even though the guy using the Jap is a pro or experienced? like seriously.. I think only the Yamato can really match a Montana or Iowa in 1 v 1 game
Lelouch Vi Britannia In the game Yamato can solo any battleships depending on player skills and experience. But irl, Yamato and her sister's design were obsoleted, remember japanese AA guns are poorly design and vastly inferior against Bofors, despite Yamato have tons of AA guns, she only shot down 10 aircrafts, her 18.1 inch turret is big, long range and powerful but the san-shiki shells design were flaws, incorporate with poor qualities materials these shells fire multiple times will damage or explode her turrets. Lack of radar and optics never allow her turret can achieve long range distances. And again these problem in her history were all fixed by Wargaming, she can 1v1 any battleships but depending on captain's skills. Sorry for long wall text.
AlexNguyen138 Yeah,only the Japanese Battleship Yamato can really beat a American ship... but U.S. ships in the Game are more powerful even if same tier, like Ohama against the Furutaka
im sorry to be mean but why the blody heck do we only get 6 free ship slots i mean dont get me wrong getting people to buy premium currensi is good and all but atleast let us choose to buy a ship spot with premium or non premium where the non premium path is much more like 1 000 000 credits fore 1 ship spot please if nothing else you will get less haiters about the ship capassaty abaut how limitating it is thats all sorry for wasting your time
Just a suggestion, but could you guys consider reworking the carrier gameplay? I feels a bit like wot artillery. Also, the carrier is often op or useless, but that's what I've seen. Thanks
I've had this game for about 5 months and i'm in the tier 9 japanese ships. I still refuse to play carriers. I got into this game to be in a ship shooting other ships with guns. because of this, carriers are not that fun of an idea to me. No i'm not bitching about them in the game. Although they do enjoy some perks that other ship types do not. I'm not saying playing them is no skill, but you have to admit there is just something about being only remote support that takes away a good portion of risk that the other ships have to go through to deal damage.
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I miss the good carrier days like this video
damn, aircraft carriers were like this. Wish they can send multiple squadrons like the video shows
Crazy how much carriers have changes since this
I want old cvs back 😭
I wonder if the Super Carrier ex-Yamato class Shinano will be added into this. They mentioned her previously in developer videos.
Fighterpilot555 well, they haven't add Kaga and Akagi yet, so dont expect too much
Hiryu&Zuikaku too
@@pakinpoolkaew3933 they had hiryu but cv rework removed her and tier 7, 5 and tier 9 carrier
Likely won’t for while Shinano is nearly the same size as Yamato, therefore the devs would mostly only have to edit the Yamato model in-game, but still this poses a problem for concealment, so when it gets added it’s likely going to go through a lot of changes to find the best concealment.
@@lanz2828think ot would be good to add her as a premium ship
Because many of her characteristics are simular to Hakuryu. And I think we can give her a special abilitly to make her difference.
I look back at this vid and the style of playing the planes, and I want these old days I never experienced back…
Controlling the air groups is fun, but…
Fun history fact: The Taiho was hit by an American submariner's torpedo (1 out of the 6 it launched hit). The attack did virtually no damage to the ship. However it cracked a fuel tank designated for fighters. A few hours later she blew up.
Schools Undefiable You forgot to mention that the Taiho was undergoing sea trials and thus didn't have a full crew, especially damage control parties.
***** No, this was during the Battle of the Philippine Sea. She was sunk by USS Albacore.
You're likely thinking of how Shinano was sunk by the submarine USS Archerfish (with 4 torpedoes).
***** At the time of sinking the Taiho was effectively fully complete, manned and trained. Might want to check your ship there.
Please re-read what I wrote. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_aircraft_carrier_Taih%C5%8D#Fate everything I said was accurate.
Schools Undefiable If the attack did almost no damage, why did it explode? That is contradictory.
I don't think they realise the heavy casualties taken by torpedo bombers against AA fire. There's a reason later in the war Dive-Bombers became more used.
Sure you have a torpedo that's going to do a lot of damage,(Bombs don't do enough presently) but in real-life you'd be lucky to survive the attack run.
And here is an advantage to the Japanese Carriers, longer running torps, your planes aren't under fire as long.
**Graf Zeppelin is sitting in the corner**
so is the akaiga and the kaga
@@walkerjoins6420 do you mean akagi and Kaga?
I would love to see Aircraft Carriers VS Aircraft Carriers ONLY.
Whitedragonking Ocola Wait for custom battles then :)
Whitedragonking Ocola They had a 12v12 CV match. Check the US forums.
Whitedragonking Ocola I would love to see a no carrier game mode.
Quantum Shock They do jerk.
Whitedragonking Ocola
>Click on torpeado squadron.
>Click on enemy ship.
>Profit
They don't jerk.
2:59 where's the pilot?
Arie Pratama XDDDDDDD
its a ghost plane
It would be great to have the choice to change the loadout on your air groups before each match without (instead of) having it be a module purchase requirement. How nice to say "I'll be in attack mode this match" and not be stuck with it in the future without paying to make a change.
AeroSpaceNews.com Oh yeah! it'd also be cool if there's a similar option that can be done in WoT as well. Like the pz4h for example; you can decide whether you'd go for the standard l/43 for orthodox med gameplay, or the 105mm if there are are a lot of low tier enemies - right before the match! OAO
AeroSpaceNews.com You can change your modules at no cost.
Matthew Moen But only after the initial purchase, right? You can't change from the default configuration unless you first purchase the other air wing package module. Or am I missing something?
Oh, yeah, you have to buy the module first; than you can swap between them.
That's what I thought. I'd tried to explain the without purchase thing in my OP - just seems kinda uncool to have to pay for it as it is not an upgrade - just a different mission configuration.
Thank You guys for these fantastic videos.
Old CVs....
you will be missed....
I do really miss the old carriers, they were very fun to play and I still dont understand why they reworked them
Too complicated, half the playerbase couldn't play them, we can't make money off of them
you forgot to mention the part about how mm screws you a lot as a carrier captain.
Enemy carrier has a tier up on you and has fighters? well you're screwed.
They have a tier 6 and a tier 5 against your tier 5 and a 4? you're screwed.
The old carriers were so much better than the new ones. I dont think anyone likes the change. Please revert the carriers to their original tactical and interesting gameplay.
0:22 What is that Soundtrack?
What is The soundtrack at 2:06?
"United States and Japan" were the first to realize the power of carrier aviation?
It was actually Britain. Jackie Fisher had HMS Glorious (I might be wrong on the name) converted to a fighter carrier before any of the carriers in the game were commissioned. And the US didn't realize it until after Pearl Harbor...
GintaPPE1000 Well, the Japanese see the true potential of naval aviation when their world first light carrier Hosho commissioned (built by the British as well), in early Pacific War, Kido Butai (1st Carrier Fleet) considered the world most powerful carrier fleet with 6 large carriers and 4 light carriers with over 400 aircrafts, 1500 veterans and experiences pilots, they utilizing their fast fighter, TBs and DBs and successfully decimated entire British Eastern Fleets (somewhat half of the Royal Navy power) and some Dutch Colonies Navy as well, they're unstoppable, sad to see how Royal Navy has grown weak at end of WW1 and begining of WW2. Prime minister Winston Churchill have to announced that Japanese and their air superiorty and powerful warplanes dominated the sky of Pacific, marking the end of Royal Navy power.
(I realize this is a REALLY late response, but work with me here lol)
"And the US didn't realize it until after Pearl Harbor..."
That's not entirely true. While the US was still building a few Battleships, They had started putting a lot more effort into Carrier design than Battleship design. That's why the 5th Iowa class wasn't finished and the 6th Iowa class and Montana Class were never built. Hell, the only reason the Iowas were built was because the US felt they needed a response to the Yamato and Musashi, as well as a powerful platform for Anti-Air support for Carriers. That's why the Iowas ended up being the fastest Battleships ever made. To keep up with and effectively support the Carriers. on top of that, the US had plenty of carriers at the start of world war 2.
On December 7th 1941, the U.S. Navy had seven aircraft carriers and one aircraft escort vessel in commission. In addition to these eight ships, the keels of five other CVs had been laid.
They had carriers before Pearl Harbour, you know that right?
You know it was US that's the first testing on planes landing on ships
Dive bombers need AP bombs with the ability to due citadel hits as an option. They carried them in real life. Also its long past time to restore carrier divisions.
Dennis Wiggins AP bombs used to be available back in Alpha, but was taken out.
Reasons? only WG knows.
Maree Printemps game balance i think, but DB is pure RNG like only 1 - 2 bombs only hit.
Does aircraft attack on its own when the enemy is near the aircraft carrier, since sometimes you need to use your main gun.
Since a number of interceptor/fighter aircraft were capable of carrying rockets and bombs in WWII why cant we modify the individual fighter aircraft? It would be quite nice to have some versatility with the fighter aircraft though.
I love aerial torpedo since the IJN were the best at it using the Nakajima B5N
When will the KM Bismarck be released? This July?
bas molenaar they said during testing, so sometime between now and final launch
The thing is: Wargaming has a really nice idea to make Profit in WoWs without Premium Ammo. The Bismark will, like the Warspite, be a Premium. The ship class however, will be added to the game as normal Ship. I guess they will name it after it's sister ship.
i know this video is WAY outdated because the U.S.S. Ranger is not hear and now there are no tier V or VII carrier's there are only tier IV Langley tier VI Ranger Tier VIII Lexington Teir X Midway and Super Carier U.S.S. United states in the tech tree plus the premium carriers.
I love how u didn’t mention that the play style is completely different and only the tech tree lmao
What is the planes like at 1:05 ?
Mitsubishi G4M nicknames Betty by the Americans
@@BlandSpagetti looks like its a J1N gekko twin engine heavy fighter
I NEED RTS CV !!!!!!
Has the UI changed? I need to find a video on CV operation because I can't put more than 1 squadron in the air at 1 time!
Yeah this video is from before the cv rework.
it is rated T? i mean, yes, it got some explosions... and ships sinking and getting fire meaning people dying... but kids play with toy ship on the bathroom and usually play that it is on a storm or sinking...
This needs to be updated.
Like, really really badly.
Awesome imagens and important info, thanks for sharing.
I wouldn't say it was US and Japan been the first ones to see the first true advantages of carrier aviation... It was the Royal Navy been the first ones with carriers and the first ones to effectively use them at Taranto (what peal harbor was based off)...
Oh thats right, WoWS seems to think even the Russian navy was more important then the Royal Navy...
Crag_r WoWs is very biased to the US imo. After all, the game is being made by americans. 'Merica
Crag_r If the British did see the true potential why didn't they develop and expand their carrier groups. I think that was the whole point.
***** They did... quite a lot.
Eric Melendez game is being made by Russians.
Dennis Wiggins I heard they hired American devs.
How meny plans has hosho
Id like to play an rts mode of wow carrier v carrier v cruser
so which is more op though in game
R.I.P bouge independence essex
What about Uss yorktown
Why was essex removed again?
Why were any of them removed? Especially Essex.
@@SausageWithOranges all I know is it was some balancing thing
@@mattkensethfanaccount6365 That would make sense.
Hmm the production quality of these episodes is quite high :)
We have the HMS Hermès now looks like a actual aircraft carrier
Though monoplanes
Zero hold my beer
Where is Akagi and Kaga
Anyone here watching when CV class got screwed
Adicionem mais um novo modelo de porta aviões.(Por favor)
Adoro essas classes de navios.
Please update
Sad since they removed RTS gameplay :((
3 Years Later, still waiting for the CV rework ^^
Was it worth it?
Nope in my opinion since CVs are meant to deal damage and now they are not a great option as it depends on opponents tier or they made the AA in high tier God level
Please make sure your matchmaker doesnt fuck up as often (matching 2vs1 CV or 0vs1 or even 1vs1 with tier differences!!!) BEFORE enabling even more derps to play these kind of ships!?
where are Kaga, Akagi? My Waifu? where are they?
xuan quang, they died honourably
xuan quang at the bottom of pacific
Kaga was ingame.
_Inferior to Cardiv 5 huhue_ *run
@@cardiv5zuikaku944 oh, then you may not know that the enterprise is in the game
@@許進曾 already know.
i also liked to get midway in wows blitz
ENTY DA BEST IN MY HEAAAAAAAART
Will have a mobile version?
I wish i have aircraft carriers in my world of war ships
This video by now is basically useless as too much nerf and changes to how you play carriers, now aircraft carriers are just annoying (tho I am a CV main) as you are only able to launch a single squadron per flight. I kinda want their primetime back but then CVs will be too OP making me understand why they made this change.
Some ocean so your carrier isn't trapped like a rat would be nice.
Nobody protects carriers, so a few bot escorts would be great too. Or make them more points so they are worth protecting. I doubt that would work though because I have escorted carriers and it sucks. You get no XP/credits and waste most of your time waiting.
Totally predictable spawn points, no time to maneuver, nowhere to run, and no help from the team during the enemy's air attacks makes the match maker's role decisive in who wins the carrier duel.
Later as your "team" is busy far away a DD or CA will eventually find you and blow you away provided you survive the initial air attack(s).
But who cares if you survive? I prefer to be destroyed since the stupid victory conditions end the game just as it get interesting. I can't count the number of times I am really having a blast and then victory or defeat ends it suddenly.
I'd rather get blown away so I can take another ship out and try to have as much fun with it as the major limitations of the game allow. I couldn't care less about the idiotic victory conditions. Domination? Stupid.
Besides making zero sense and lacking imagination, the victory conditions and timer assure that you don't have time to maneuver any ships, carriers or otherwise. So the tactics have to be rush in and shoot. Maneuver and you often lose and always score no points.
WoWS could be a good game, but from what I have seen from wargaming, they couldn't give a crap about improving their products. Their games provide a fair amount of entertainment, but they don't make new maps, they hate large maps, and the match making algorithm will eventually make you rage quit over and over until you realize that you are burnt out on their games. Unless grinding the tech tree does it to you first.
Give us Bismarck.
So in other words, no matter what happen, Japanese always loses to U.S.?? Cause most of U.S. ships totally out play a Japanese ship.... like seriously, Japan ain't weak, they did destroy Asia with ease....
Lelouch Vi Britannia Japanese only dominate half Asia during the early Pacific War (probably somewhere at 1930-1941), most of the countries they invaded are weak, defenseless and lack of resistances.
AlexNguyen138 True but still, my point is, if there's a 1 v 1 Carrier match, U.S. vs. Japan, they will lose?? even though the guy using the Jap is a pro or experienced? like seriously.. I think only the Yamato can really match a Montana or Iowa in 1 v 1 game
Lelouch Vi Britannia In the game Yamato can solo any battleships depending on player skills and experience. But irl, Yamato and her sister's design were obsoleted, remember japanese AA guns are poorly design and vastly inferior against Bofors, despite Yamato have tons of AA guns, she only shot down 10 aircrafts, her 18.1 inch turret is big, long range and powerful but the san-shiki shells design were flaws, incorporate with poor qualities materials these shells fire multiple times will damage or explode her turrets. Lack of radar and optics never allow her turret can achieve long range distances. And again these problem in her history were all fixed by Wargaming, she can 1v1 any battleships but depending on captain's skills. Sorry for long wall text.
AlexNguyen138 Yeah,only the Japanese Battleship Yamato can really beat a American ship... but U.S. ships in the Game are more powerful even if same tier, like Ohama against the Furutaka
Back then, maybe. Today? No. The IJN Wins nearly every time.
im sorry to be mean but why the blody heck do we only get 6 free ship slots i mean dont get me wrong getting people to buy premium currensi is good and all but atleast let us choose to buy a ship spot with premium or non premium where the non premium path is much more like 1 000 000 credits fore 1 ship spot please if nothing else you will get less haiters about the ship capassaty abaut how limitating it is
thats all sorry for wasting your time
NVM i like this idea
No shinano :(
Neon Dagger She probably somewhere at future second line CVs. No offical information from devs yet.
Neon Dagger maybe shinano is the hakuryu class
m aulia akbar
lol, hakuryu is a paper ship. Shinano is Yamato-class battleships that converted to aircraft carrier, read history carefully.
Just a suggestion, but could you guys consider reworking the carrier gameplay? I feels a bit like wot artillery. Also, the carrier is often op or useless, but that's what I've seen. Thanks
Oh how wrong this was
I've had this game for about 5 months and i'm in the tier 9 japanese ships. I still refuse to play carriers. I got into this game to be in a ship shooting other ships with guns. because of this, carriers are not that fun of an idea to me.
No i'm not bitching about them in the game. Although they do enjoy some perks that other ship types do not. I'm not saying playing them is no skill, but you have to admit there is just something about being only remote support that takes away a good portion of risk that the other ships have to go through to deal damage.
One time my Langley have full hp .when my team are losing a destroyers shoot me .. it took My 1/2 hp
alguien habla español?
den u gone screwd it up
Welcome people and u Will be happy to find out manual dropping is gone😁
US carriers are OP as shit
lol just uploaded
Later i am gonna research and buy U.S.S bogue
Japanese > american
8 year❤