10 tips for new(ish) woodworkers! (featuring

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @diyhuntress
    @diyhuntress 7 месяцев назад +67

    I learned more woodworking tips watching this video than I did actually building with you..
    … because I was too busy laughing my face off and having the best time ever hanging. 💁‍♀️
    Thank you for helping my vision come to life. Let’s do this again soon, please and thanksss. 🙌
    PS. This video confirmed that you’d look great as a 5’0 Italian woman. #pocketholebestiesforlife

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +8

      Literally ANY time buddy. Let’s make it happen. #pocketholeproud

    • @peterfitzpatrick7032
      @peterfitzpatrick7032 7 месяцев назад +3

      #IsThatAHoleInYourPocketOrAreYouJustHidingIt ...😂👍

  • @dusrdev
    @dusrdev 7 месяцев назад +29

    Dude this is the stuff you're supposed to do. It was hilarious. You should make this a tv show, bunch of people hanging around building stuff in a wood shop and making chaos and laughing and stuff. I am serious, think about it.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +6

      If you think I’m not going to pitch this as a show to the people I know you’ve got another thing coming 🎉

  • @dogedogego
    @dogedogego День назад

    love watching these videos, i wish more folks would collab like this!

  • @iandodd7828
    @iandodd7828 7 месяцев назад +11

    My wife and I built two nightstands last year and now we’re in the middle of building a 12 drawer dresser. The nightstands were her introduction to woodworking, so my role is both partner and teacher. She has a good design aesthetic and often comes up with solutions or details that I wouldn’t have thought of because I’ve always done it another way. I love the enthusiasm of a newby and she keeps my ego in check.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Love that you are building together. That’s fantastic 👏

    • @jewdd1989
      @jewdd1989 6 месяцев назад

      That’s technically how I got into wanting to build a decade ago. There was a cute bar/side table that cost waaay too much in a magazine plus I was fascinated with how it was put together so my husband and his Dad who really knew what to do worked with me on building it. My Husband passed shortly after that project but I still have it, I continue to observe and build just by figuring it out and researching how to rather than follow plans. Don’t be afraid to push her to learn cool joinery, at least that’s my favorite part of learning and building

  • @scatwater
    @scatwater 6 месяцев назад +3

    Sams build video came up in my feed so I watched that and really enjoyed it. So now I am over here. Its good to see content creators still building stuff.

  • @lauralee2248
    @lauralee2248 7 месяцев назад +7

    You two are so much alike and hilarious, would love to see more of you together !!

    • @felixreali7101
      @felixreali7101 7 месяцев назад +1

      agree

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +2

      Be careful what you wish for! 🤣

  • @jonfortner3919
    @jonfortner3919 7 месяцев назад +2

    You 2 are a lot of fun to watch together. Do more please lol. I laughed a lot and learned too.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      We’ll get another build on the schedule!

  • @MsLexieSkydive
    @MsLexieSkydive 7 месяцев назад +4

    I found you through Sam! Thank you for the tips! Good idea Sam had to share the whole project like you did! You are fun together! 😉

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you!!

  • @fidgetshouse
    @fidgetshouse 7 месяцев назад +2

    Sharing your friendship brightened my day. This is one of your best videos, smiles and learning together.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Honestly I thought it was too. So glad you enjoyed it as much as we did making it 🙏

  • @AngieWilliamsDesigns
    @AngieWilliamsDesigns 7 месяцев назад +1

    That was absolutely ridiculous. And I say that in the best way. It looked like you guys had a blast. So much fun. I already follow Sam. It was fun watching you guys work together. Good stuff!!!

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much!

  • @gseblonka
    @gseblonka 6 месяцев назад

    Love the collaboration pieces videos. Love the theory behind creating as well. Much appreciated to you both .

  • @greggcoulter6008
    @greggcoulter6008 7 месяцев назад +3

    You two were cracking me up. Between the outtakes, the Uber ride, and the pocket hole madness I really enjoyed this video. I’ll definitely be looking for Sam’s channel too.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      That was easily the best Uber ride of my life 😂

  • @WoodshopOutBack
    @WoodshopOutBack 6 месяцев назад

    Great video and kick ass design!!! The level of shenanigans was on point!!!

  • @nikolausreinke9966
    @nikolausreinke9966 7 месяцев назад +1

    This looked so fun. Great mood. 🙂 Beautiful build. Nice guys.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you!

  • @lindakleiner5734
    @lindakleiner5734 7 месяцев назад +4

    I’ve popped over from Sam’s channel. You guys are a blast please do another collaboration. And I just subscribed ❤

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much!

  • @CinkSVideo
    @CinkSVideo 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for bringing us along on your fun.

  • @samuelmoore657
    @samuelmoore657 6 месяцев назад

    Best video yet!! You two should definitely do more videos together!!

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад

      We will! For better or worse 😂

  • @terrytopliss9506
    @terrytopliss9506 7 месяцев назад +1

    The fun stuff certainly came across Erik,it’s good to jointly work on projects with friends with the same interest. Thanks for the video.👍👍

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @markjohnson2632
    @markjohnson2632 4 месяца назад

    Great video as always! But the biggest distraction for me was the planes above your head in the final scene! Maybe I need to go to have my eyes tested but have you set them out intentionally to read Shit? 😂😂

  • @garagemonkeysan
    @garagemonkeysan 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great video. Entertaining. Awesome tips too. Mahalo for sharing! : )

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @thewestendwoodworker
    @thewestendwoodworker 7 месяцев назад

    Erik, it was all of the things! So good man. Inspired and pumped to build a thing, with friends. Thanks for doing this on video. Its a classic.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you!!

  • @woodbyrd
    @woodbyrd 7 месяцев назад

    Fun pair of videos with 2 of my favorites... funniest part was the YT generated ads on Sam's video all being home improvement related and all the ones on yours being hair and skin care lol

  • @jimrosson6702
    @jimrosson6702 7 месяцев назад

    Great video you and Sam are great together looks like you two had a great time can’t wait to check out her video

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you!

  • @MrNobodyknowsme666
    @MrNobodyknowsme666 6 месяцев назад

    Great video!!! I had a lot of fun just watching it! New scheme: info, fun, fun, fun, friends 😁😁😁

  • @jeremyspecce
    @jeremyspecce 6 месяцев назад

    Erik, I’ve known about you and followed you on Instagram for years but you’ve always been a “supporting character” to other people I follow for some reason… there’s a lot of content out there, I guess. Sam’s video gave me the push to dive a little deeper and subscribe on RUclips. I enjoyed this video, and your viewpoint on the project, and now I’ look forward to checking out more of your videos. If there was any doubt to the quality of your character, the people you surround yourself with speaks volumes; Sam, Amanda and Larissa are some of the best of the best when it comes to being good people who share their knowledge openly.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад

      Sam, Amanda, and Larissa are three of my favorite people out there and I’m grateful to have them around! Appreciate you checking out the video and I’m glad you enjoyed it 🙂

  • @JoshD4PREZ
    @JoshD4PREZ 7 месяцев назад +2

    This was fun & light hearted, plus I learned a couple things! Now if I could just talk my friends into building stuff with me I’d be set lol

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +1

      We’ve been trying for four years. Don’t give up on that dream 😂

  • @natswoodshop940
    @natswoodshop940 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love it keep the build togethers coming

  • @woodnotestudio
    @woodnotestudio 7 месяцев назад

    This was great. Just getting to see your natural selves.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @wharfrat360
    @wharfrat360 6 месяцев назад

    I fuckin' love this channel. Mr. Curtis, thank you for the constant inspiration in my life. I couldn't thank you enough, truly!

  • @KOutOfMyYard
    @KOutOfMyYard 6 месяцев назад

    So great!!!! Love everything about this

  • @herk8240
    @herk8240 6 месяцев назад

    Doing something you love and have a passion for with a friend that shares can't be quantified. I think I followed her before you. She's just fun and fun to watch. She did a vid with Shara that was a blast to watch and about as much fun as this one. Side note, I watched Bakeover just because you were on it. Is that going to be a regular thing? Bar Rescue for bakeries and not enough of what you do but I get it's a baking show, not woodworking. Thanks for the video. Fun to watch

  • @marcbarash6045
    @marcbarash6045 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks Erik and Sam

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Very welcome!

  • @a97chrjo
    @a97chrjo 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wow. You two are awesome together. Please do more videos together

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you! Will do!

  • @RYwoodview
    @RYwoodview 7 месяцев назад

    You and Sam are perfect together!

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Haha thank you!

  • @dranob
    @dranob 7 месяцев назад +4

    You guys nailed it - the 'fun' definitely came through! Let me ask you this - you said you can shellac almost any surface. Which surfaces would you NOT shellac?

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! Yes MOST surfaces are fine… but not a waxed surface. There’s not much that will stick to a waxed surface. But you can dewax it through abrasion or with mineral spirits and then apply once dried.

    • @dranob
      @dranob 7 месяцев назад

      @@ENCurtis Thank you for the reply! I appreciate you, and enjoy your vids - they make newbies like me feel less... 'newbie' :)

  • @torque9889
    @torque9889 7 месяцев назад +1

    You’s two were hilarious together, you should definitely collaborate more.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      We’re getting it on the to do list for sure!

  • @andrewbrown8148
    @andrewbrown8148 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video~!! Nonsense is a necessity. If you can't have fun doing it, then WHY do it?? Headed over to Sam's video now. 😀

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Exactly!! Enjoy Sam’s video! It’s equally as absurd 😂

  • @brianschoneberger
    @brianschoneberger 6 месяцев назад

    this was such a nice vid, as a small-shopper its cool to see the potential.
    I'm curious if you've ever thought about doing a video on the books/resources you keep coming back to for learning/inspiration

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад +1

      That’s a great idea. I will keep that in mind for a future video 🙏

  • @FredMcIntyre
    @FredMcIntyre 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great tips! 😃👍🏼👊🏼

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Fred!

  • @FilmSteve
    @FilmSteve 6 месяцев назад +1

    That Festool notepad is probably the only thing I could afford under that name. That, and the $30 Festool pizza cutter they did a run of 🤣

  • @scottmorris4914
    @scottmorris4914 6 месяцев назад

    Good video, really enjoyed it.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад

      I’m so glad you did! Thanks

  • @frijoli9579
    @frijoli9579 7 месяцев назад +1

    Loved this video!

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you!!

  • @terrythomas2735
    @terrythomas2735 7 месяцев назад +1

    It’s beautiful

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you!

  • @TotalBoat
    @TotalBoat 6 месяцев назад

    We love this friendship 💙

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад

      So do we 😂

  • @TinyBasementWorkshop
    @TinyBasementWorkshop 6 месяцев назад +2

    @diyhuntress Don‘t know if you just did it for the shot, but at 6:12 you probably would‘ve had it easier if you stood on the other side of the board, pressing it against the fence just like Eric in the shot before. Just a thought. Great project otherwise! 👍🏼

  • @alee9961
    @alee9961 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! I came from Sam's channel! 😂 Thank you!

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Awesome! Thank you for coming by!

  • @marchuvfulz
    @marchuvfulz 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great vid.

  • @gregisflyingforfun
    @gregisflyingforfun 7 месяцев назад

    I am now waiting to see you make a gallery piece with exposed pocket holes!

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Bahaha I JUST made one with nails so challenge accepted!

  • @jewdd1989
    @jewdd1989 6 месяцев назад

    Not a fan of pocket holes, I get for shop cabinets and even kitchen cabs but I don’t know I think there’s other joinery not only superior but can make a piece. I get it, sometimes but it depends

  • @seannalexander
    @seannalexander Месяц назад

    so much chemistry Oppenheimer's building a bomb in the basement.

  • @Kernowwoods
    @Kernowwoods 7 месяцев назад

    Please please make this a series dude 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @thehawkc
    @thehawkc 6 месяцев назад

    Okay, I don't know if they were called pocket holes at the time. But I have a walnut dining table with three leaves, that is at least 40 years old. The skirt is attached to the top ,looks like pocket holes . The holes might be slightly larger for movement, but they are " pocket holes".

  • @walterrider9600
    @walterrider9600 7 месяцев назад

    thank you EN . i want to say i do enjoy your stuff . 71 oh thats how old i am

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much!

  • @MikeyDonna
    @MikeyDonna 7 месяцев назад +5

    I love your instruction & understand how I could be fun, but I’m a 83 year old grouchy old man that’s not into the funny stuff , but it’s ok , it’s your show !

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      I appreciate the honest feedback Mike. Hope the next one is better for you!

  • @jeremyspecce
    @jeremyspecce 6 месяцев назад

    11:40 I think you kind of glazed over that the reason not to worry about sanding the pencil lines off is more about not creating dips in the surface that will make a gap than it is about the pencil lines not being seen. I hope that makes sense.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад

      Yes indeed! You are absolutely correct.

  • @joseescoto9069
    @joseescoto9069 6 месяцев назад

    Now is the time to make time to collaborate with other people that have good AC

  • @thewoodenlegbyjoe
    @thewoodenlegbyjoe 7 месяцев назад +7

    I'm here front Sam's video and I am off to explore your channel.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks for stopping by!

  • @lancerawlings5401
    @lancerawlings5401 7 месяцев назад +6

    Safety tip #1 on DIY tip #1. When ripping plywood you do “watch the rip fence” and keep material against the rip fence while ripping and yes be mindful of the blade you know where it is. But….be mindful of how far the blade protrudes beyond the top of your piece. It should not protrude more than 3/8” to a 1/2” . While Mr Curtis was ripping it was way too high. Also when Sam pushed the ply thru the table saw she was on the wrong side of the fence to affectively push. As you can see when she starts the leading edge starts to rise and then creates a “gouge” or “indention” in the cut. You can see it.

  • @troyqueen9503
    @troyqueen9503 6 месяцев назад

    Never enough clamps.😂😂

  • @markthomson7735
    @markthomson7735 6 месяцев назад

    So if you had a small shop what equipment would you get first, i.e. table saw, jointer, planer ??

    • @jeremyspecce
      @jeremyspecce 6 месяцев назад

      5X10 CNC, stroke sander, straight line rip saw should be a bare minimum to get a beginner going. 😅

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад +1

      I actually have a video on this very question, but in short I would say table saw, planer, and bandsaw will get you most of the way there

  • @amykhar
    @amykhar 29 дней назад

    @ENCurtis - I know you are in the Philly area, so I hope you can help a newbie out. Where do you buy your hardwood? I’m in Berks county, but am willing to drive.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  26 дней назад +1

      I always go to either Groff and Groff in Quarryville or Hearne Hardwood in Oxford. Both are out closer to you but they are absolutely worth the drive for me.

    • @amykhar
      @amykhar 24 дня назад

      @ thank you SO much!

  • @johnabell861
    @johnabell861 6 месяцев назад

    So, on the not worrying about removing pencil lines on a jointed face, on most pieces I make I do a little doodle on one of the joint faces (usually something very juvenile, you know what that means) just so my clients have a secret piece of art that they’ll never see or know about.

  • @phichi1106
    @phichi1106 7 месяцев назад +1

    This was so epicly funny and I was wanting some fresh woodworking content

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      We gotchu!

  • @matthewmarello1347
    @matthewmarello1347 6 месяцев назад

    Everytime I see your name I laugh because the ENC was my bands mane in high school. Encrypted Nightmare Corporation.

  • @joelw6215
    @joelw6215 7 месяцев назад

    I’m pretty sure I’ve heard KAMALA HARRIS say now is the time to make time 😂

  • @scottmorris4914
    @scottmorris4914 6 месяцев назад

    I figured out, that if pocket holes were something you had to hand cut, which they can be and used to be, then they would be more accepted. With all pocket holes created by all these various jigs. Now, having said they, pocket holes have been found in furniture over 100 years old.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад +1

      I often think of corner blocks on the underside of old chairs. They are literally wedges that have been glued and toe nailed in. If they get used today they are considered lesser than-often by people who don’t understand the stresses of chair joinery. An interesting point. Perhaps something to build a future video around?

  • @steelsunpi
    @steelsunpi 7 месяцев назад

    Makers 46 for the win! (Hint: mix it 50/50 with Makers Cask Strength and it's nectar!)

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +1

      Ooooh definitely trying that asap 🥃

  • @1deerndingo
    @1deerndingo 6 месяцев назад

    Is good. Is different.

  • @505Daniel
    @505Daniel 7 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who has done gig work.... you just made that Uber drivers day

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      MORTAZE IS A GENTLEMAN AND A SCHOLAR 😂

  • @jrm523
    @jrm523 Месяц назад

    How are you both not married? Wow, such great chemistry. Please do more collabs in the future. 😅

  • @TheRealMagisD
    @TheRealMagisD 4 месяца назад

    That's a Shirt .. "I promise that made sense in my head ...."

  • @Tbick321
    @Tbick321 4 месяца назад

    I used to think pocket holes were cheating, but they are pretty cool. And they’ve been around for a while. I think the best way I can describe it is I don’t like catfish because they’re bottom feeders. But I still eat shrimp and crawfish. I’m a hypocrite. What can I say?

  • @thebluefrog951
    @thebluefrog951 6 месяцев назад

    Festool notepad - $89.95 -- Hahaha

  • @ronboe6325
    @ronboe6325 7 месяцев назад

    That was a hoot! I've had experiences like that. Too bad they don't last very long - thankfully they don't last that long! LOL

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Bahaha yes sad it doesn’t last longer but it’s definitely best for everyone! 😂

  • @WoLpH
    @WoLpH 6 месяцев назад

    When you said the same person I was worried about the beard, luckily that doesn't seem to be the case.

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад +1

      And here I was just worried about @diyhuntress surviving a weekend with me 😂

  • @Handcarvedbyrandy
    @Handcarvedbyrandy 7 месяцев назад +1

    I can't do youtube woodworking videos. I don't have a beard and I'm not bald. I think a guy needs to be one or both of the above. ;)

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂 mandatory perhaps not but certainly the trend

    • @Handcarvedbyrandy
      @Handcarvedbyrandy 7 месяцев назад

      @@ENCurtis Looking around, most of the hand tool guys and almost all of the tool restorers have beards, carvers almost all have beards. Whenever I grow a beard I look like I walked out of a spaghetti western and I don't want to scare people!

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      @@Handcarvedbyrandy 😂😂😂

  • @xavierselph1923
    @xavierselph1923 7 месяцев назад

    Yello

  • @HBSuccess
    @HBSuccess 6 месяцев назад

    Here’s a tip. Lower that saw blade. No more through the material than you’re willing to run into your hands. 1/8” is plenty. And yes I realize it’ll tear out slightly more on the bottom. Don’t care, what you’re doing is foolish and could cost you a hand.

  • @nagranoth_
    @nagranoth_ 7 месяцев назад +2

    It's cute that you think that's a small workshop...

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      It’s a one car garage. Around 200sqft. That is, by most all woodworking standards, a reasonably small shop.

  • @paulmccullough7352
    @paulmccullough7352 7 месяцев назад

    So, where was the "Small Shop" aspect in those tips?

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      Well, typically small shops are limited in their machinery so breaking sheet goods down on a table saw is typical rather than using a circ saw on floor space that doesn’t exist. They’re typically limited in joinery choices so utilizing things like a biscuit joiner is typical. Sanding is applicable to everyone, shops big and small, and generally small shops don’t have large industrial surface sanders. That’s at least 6 of the tips right there.

    • @paulmccullough7352
      @paulmccullough7352 6 месяцев назад

      @@ENCurtis I do understand your point, but, really, they were only general wood working tips. With a title like that, people would most likely expect them to be tips focused specifically on things to help a person deal with working in a small shop, not "heres how to sand a board properly". Thats not to say I didnt enjoy the video, it was a great video. I just feel like it should be titled more appropriately. Something like "Having fun with a friend" or "How to be childish in your 30s" ect. I doubt that you would get any less views for it not being a woodworking associated title, because i get the sense that most people watch your videos just because they enjoy watching you as a creator first and a woodworker second. And thats coming from someone that has only seen you on youtube and none of your other stuff. I dont know what your stats are like, but i am sure it wouldnt hurt your channel to post the occasional video of yourself in other aspects of your life just being you. but that is just my personal opinion, I dont know what your audiences main focus is.

  • @ChrisHornberger
    @ChrisHornberger 6 месяцев назад

    ** chef kiss **
    perfectenschlaag

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  6 месяцев назад +1

      🤌🤌

  • @MikevanAlst
    @MikevanAlst 7 месяцев назад

    If you're not using pocket holes, you won't have to hide em! #NoPocketHolesForMe

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      😂😂 no lie detected!

  • @Dazza19746
    @Dazza19746 6 месяцев назад +1

    Get a room

  • @TheSMEAC
    @TheSMEAC 5 месяцев назад

    Eric went to a he “Wha Wha in the xxxx, I said wha wha…”🤦🏼‍♂️🫡

  • @t1ddys
    @t1ddys 7 месяцев назад +4

    To build with friends, you must first have friends 🥲

    • @ENCurtis
      @ENCurtis  7 месяцев назад

      One might say that’s a necessary thing in life regardless of collabs!