E Hahahaha I actually love Cody Zeller and think he’s underrated (screening, versatile defensively etc) but yea, back to the basket game, not a strongsuit 🤣🤣
Young Nomad For sure. I actually have a Zeller bobcats jersey lmao. Wrecking ball screener, versatile defender, good passer for a big, etc. His back to the basket game is pretty hard to watch though.
Not really a plus post defender, he's just "passable" as per the analysis. You'd still rather have most forwards and big men guarding a post up, but he's better than almost all other guards his size.
Jon Dunn he isn’t a plus relative to forwards and bigs, that’s a given...i mean he’s 6’3 but him being even an average post defender relative to all players shows how great he is despite his height
@@devvv4616 harden is strong. Thats it. He doesnt have the skill in guarding the post that smart does, only the lower center of gravity compared to bigs
He Kinda references it with regards to switching and the Kemba example. I don't think Ben values that trait as much though because there is no way to quantify its value outside of the eye test. Like Smart QB's the offence, but is that a benefit or a negative? His IQ is high on a personal level, but that is difficult to dissect from a team point of view, and whether someone else taking the reins could improve it. Just as an example, his on off numbers aren't amazing, implying his leadership on the defensive end isn't translating to that much better defense. Not trying to negate your point, just explaining why it may not have been brought up.
@@ysmmac6015 As a Celtucs fan we are extremely lucky to have a generational talent on defense like Smart! He absolutely deserves DPOY more then anyone I'm the NBA as there isn't anyone I bathe NBA that comes close to doing what he does with along with the amount of effort and hustle that he plays with is just relentless! Very deceptive athleticism imo but whatever athleticism he may give up in speed he makes up for with his basketball IQ and just natural instincts!
If you notice at 4:30 Smart waves off Theis knowing he is capable of guarding the bigger Love down in the post, true defenders like Smart know when to guard 1 on 1 and when it is necessary for a double, it's like an iso on offense waving off your teammates knowing you can beat your man, but in this case, it's on the defensive side meaning Smart knows he can take on Love. People nowadays take defense for granted not knowing, the mechanics, iQ, footwork, vision, positioning ( one example of many is sagging/quick strides off the offensive player to beat him to the spot), instinct, and skill it takes to stop offensive threats in the league today. Shout out to Smart! The stats don't say how much an individual can affect the game on the defensive side of the game.
@@prometheus3498Above average at a lot of things. Great screener, actually decent at protecting the rim due to his impressive vertical, nice short roll playmaker, can shoot a bit and started shooting a decent amount of 3sthis year, and he also can switch pretty decently. He's not a post up guy but he can handle a mismatch and he usually does really well against lineups with big slow bigs and also small ball lineups. Not a huge rebounder but he boxes out well. So basically he gets underrated due to injury and the fact that he plays for the Hornets. If he was on either LA team or in Boston (good fit there especially) he would be talked about more as a really solid starting big.
People been sleeping on my man Marcus until now. Bro has always been putting in that work and it's nice to see all thr recognition he's bddn getting as of late
@@ethanhof2717 yeah don't know if he really deserved it more than others but I like that they actually gave it to a guard. Maybe some of the leagues other best defending guards will step their game up tryna get it in the future now that they see its possible.
Also this guy’s weight helps him too. It was around 245 1-2 yrs ago. He lost like 15-20 with an off-season fitness regime to get more explosive. He’s built like a tank and is not afraid to use it.
YESSS. I asked for this on the Davis video and received it! [Edit: Just finished the video, it’s disappointing to discover that even though Marcus seems to play as big as the best defenders in the league, he simply doesnt match up. However, I’m glad his value isn’t understated at all. Another great video!]
He is incredible. He just yanks the ball away from anybody, guards 1 through 5, stops guys he isn't even guarding, and just does things you don't see from anybody else. He is a defensive ninja.
I knew Smart was always a pestering force on defense but I did not know just how impactful he really was! Great vid as always bringing light to these players who aren’t always brung up by mainstream sports media
Rewatching this after Smart won DPOY... and you're completely right. Celtics' unbelievable defence, apart from Smart's effort, is made possible by the development of Rob Williams as one of the league's top rim protectors. Great analyses!
Celtics Fan here and always been a Smart supporter. But watching this video made me appreciate Smart more in a different perspective So much things he actually does that doesnt get recognized
Thank you for the great analysis on how just following the basics can improve defensive impact! Can you please do a career analysis of Mike Conley? There are various claims of him being underrated and overrated especially due to his injury this year and the fact that he wasn't an all-star.
Here 1 year later when Marcus Smart is the first point guard since GP to win DPOY. He’s come a long way, heart of the Celtics and we’re all proud of him. YOUNG GAME CHANGER
I use to not think much of his game other than to acknowledge his defensive tenacity, but over the last 3 years he’s really impressed me with the growth of his game.
Awesome to see all the efforts by smother brother (Smart), finally pay off. Well deserved! I've watched BB for a long time and do not remember another guard who plays as "big" as Smart does. His defense is excellent even when hes guarding fives. Guys who can guard one through five are usually bigs who are agile. Not 6'3" guards who can play like they're 6'10"!!!! The Celtic switching defense would not be nearly as effective without Smart on one end and Rob(who's extremely agile for his size) on the other. It's not like any team can just switch to this defensive philosophy and succeed. You need the right roster for it to work.
As always, great vid, but maybe you want to check the description; at least for me it displayed the one from the recent Bucks video. Keep up the great work!
I have this channel's entertainment performance as a slight negative but that analysis is enough to thrust it to sub-allstar territory for me. Because right now, I think this channel is the best data driven basketball channel in youtube.
I’d love to see an updated Ben Simmons video sometime in the near future. The Sixers are planning on using him more at the 4 spot as a roller and I think that will make ask the difference in the world come playoff time
Watch his video on Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons already plays as a forward in the half court. I don't think there will be any difference besides what the media calls him.
@@Thanosdidtherighthing okay and lebron is better than ben simmons what's your point? This is about Smart and his defense. Which he plays better than 6'10 ben Simmons
@@jonjuko8859 I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you that Hakeem should had won, but it's still very impressive to come second to one of the best defensive players ever in the NBA.
I play very similar to Marcus smart. I hope to make a few all defensive teams, win a championship and have a long an successful NBA career starting from being drafted round 2 pick 16.
great video! Smart torches the Mavs every time we play them. Something not mentioned that i think is relevant, is the amount of points scored off of one of these perimeter steals. While bigs block shots and impact opponent shooting percentage, they rarely result in a pick6. So that added value may or may not show up on advanced D metrics. The other thing is that by hounding people coming up court, how does that affect the other teams efficiency in the halfcourt? by eating off 8s of a possession, that should have a huge impact in teams that rely on a primary ballhandler creating offense (like the Mavs or Rockets). Overall i think you slightly undervalue Smart here, even if the metrics agree with you. This is one where the eye test seems to point to him being top 10 defensively.
Another important attribute he has is his energy. His outstanding hustle is like a lightning rod for his teammates. Besides his on the court hustle, he also seems to fire up his team off the court. The Celtics came out in game 3 against Miami and played really well, all after Smart took it to his teammates in the locker room after the game 2 loss.
Love Marcus Smart's game. He realized he was never going to be a top 2 or 3 scoring option. Players like Smart and Beverly make others play hard on defense because they see them giving everything and they get little to no shine. They bring toughness to teams and back down from no one. Lastly to play defense at that level requires pride, film study, and heart. Him challenging and blocking that dunk, most would be too scared they would get put on a poster. Not him, his pride does not allow him to quit. Loved playing with guys like him because I knew we would ALWAYS have a fighting chance.
You saying “skilled big men” and then cutting to a clip of Cody Zeller might be the Hornets highlight of the year
Aye man as a hornets I’ve got nothing to say😂
E Hahahaha I actually love Cody Zeller and think he’s underrated (screening, versatile defensively etc) but yea, back to the basket game, not a strongsuit 🤣🤣
Hunter Ances I’m a diehard Hornets fan myself
Zeller is mad underrated though to be fair
Young Nomad For sure. I actually have a Zeller bobcats jersey lmao. Wrecking ball screener, versatile defender, good passer for a big, etc. His back to the basket game is pretty hard to watch though.
One of the high energy players that you love to have and hate to play against
faxx beverly n draymond too
@@kangkongsinigang5872 he's just a silent version of those guys. but the dude is high level defender, defense is boiling in his blood
Truth!
@@kangkongsinigang5872 you havent been watching any nba this season if you think draymond is going to stop somebody
@@ebdeljunioralexis8267 agreed man
He’s a plus in the post at 6’3”. That says it all
Jackisaboss1208 like 6’4 with a bigger frame
Not really a plus post defender, he's just "passable" as per the analysis. You'd still rather have most forwards and big men guarding a post up, but he's better than almost all other guards his size.
Jon Dunn he isn’t a plus relative to forwards and bigs, that’s a given...i mean he’s 6’3 but him being even an average post defender relative to all players shows how great he is despite his height
Harden's a good post defender at 6'5'' too
@@devvv4616 harden is strong. Thats it. He doesnt have the skill in guarding the post that smart does, only the lower center of gravity compared to bigs
Forgot to mention Smart QB's the entire defense with communication...I'm biased though
bias doesnt necessarily make you incorrect tho, u right u right
@@MDHDH-iy7nm exactly bias dont make you incorrect
He Kinda references it with regards to switching and the Kemba example. I don't think Ben values that trait as much though because there is no way to quantify its value outside of the eye test. Like Smart QB's the offence, but is that a benefit or a negative? His IQ is high on a personal level, but that is difficult to dissect from a team point of view, and whether someone else taking the reins could improve it. Just as an example, his on off numbers aren't amazing, implying his leadership on the defensive end isn't translating to that much better defense. Not trying to negate your point, just explaining why it may not have been brought up.
But it might be due to how well coached the Celtics are so smart leadership might not matter
He put it on his summary slide at the end actually, but yeah, could have used a shout out in the rest of the vid
"Why is he taunting LeBron's Finals record with his jersey number"
That had me ded, hahaha.
lol
Your spelling got me dead
andrew m Ded is a common way to spell dead, he’s not dumb. He knows how to spell the word dead
@@henry7486 he’s dumb for being the kind of people to spell dead that way
Why tho
Even as a sixers fan I can’t help but love watching him play. He’s always giving 110% every possession. Smart is a rare breed in today’s NBA.
As a Kings fan I love to watch him play as well! One of my favourite players right now.
as a celtics fan i- nevermind
@@ysmmac6015 As a Celtucs fan we are extremely lucky to have a generational talent on defense like Smart! He absolutely deserves DPOY more then anyone I'm the NBA as there isn't anyone I bathe NBA that comes close to doing what he does with along with the amount of effort and hustle that he plays with is just relentless! Very deceptive athleticism imo but whatever athleticism he may give up in speed he makes up for with his basketball IQ and just natural instincts!
Fax, he reminds me of a small Draymond.
He's the only guard that makes Giannis kick out while posting him up.
Harden punching the arm rn
Ben Simmons aswell
@@drose2089 He is 6'10 though which is one inch shorter than Giannis.
Nah Russ does that all the time
Oh God I was expecting a bunch of " He's Smart" references lol
That's the exact comment I posted
Yea but I did it in my Boston accent tho....
Cool to see him getting some recognition, he’s definitely the x-factor for the Celtics and their success really depends if he has a good or bad game.
when you spam the steal button in the passing lane on 2k 3:36
facts!!! 😂
"Barry Allen would be jealous of that reaction time." 🤣🤣
This is why Thinking Basketball is the greatest basketball channel ever
If you notice at 4:30 Smart waves off Theis knowing he is capable of guarding the bigger Love down in the post, true defenders like Smart know when to guard 1 on 1 and when it is necessary for a double, it's like an iso on offense waving off your teammates knowing you can beat your man, but in this case, it's on the defensive side meaning Smart knows he can take on Love. People nowadays take defense for granted not knowing, the mechanics, iQ, footwork, vision, positioning ( one example of many is sagging/quick strides off the offensive player to beat him to the spot), instinct, and skill it takes to stop offensive threats in the league today. Shout out to Smart! The stats don't say how much an individual can affect the game on the defensive side of the game.
Advanced stats don't makes justice for him 😭
@@noahlandkaioken1192 so true
Rarely comment; 2:40 calls for it. That defensive recovery may be just the best cross-recovery footwork in the league.
I shed a tear when you showed Cody Zeller as your example of a skilled big man that man gets no respect
I've legit never heard of Cody Zeller being underrated. Can you explain why?
@@backroomsorigin because of the team he plays for, honestly, most headlines i read were about Kemba or Jordan... and Kemba is gone
@@prometheus3498Above average at a lot of things. Great screener, actually decent at protecting the rim due to his impressive vertical, nice short roll playmaker, can shoot a bit and started shooting a decent amount of 3sthis year, and he also can switch pretty decently. He's not a post up guy but he can handle a mismatch and he usually does really well against lineups with big slow bigs and also small ball lineups. Not a huge rebounder but he boxes out well. So basically he gets underrated due to injury and the fact that he plays for the Hornets. If he was on either LA team or in Boston (good fit there especially) he would be talked about more as a really solid starting big.
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that he once dropped 11 threes in a game.
And at a 50% clip.
yeah but still get rekt
amierul asyraf yeah cause Booker goes god mode every time he plays at TD Garden
Edit: Or just vs the Celtics in general
Would be interesting to see how advanced analytics view other DPOY-tier guards like Gary payton
This aged well lol
People been sleeping on my man Marcus until now. Bro has always been putting in that work and it's nice to see all thr recognition he's bddn getting as of late
MAHCUS SMAHT DOING MAHCUS THINGS
The goat is back🐐. Another amazing video.
Who's here after he won DPOY!
his dpoy case was kind of weak this year but i'm still glad he won it. looking forward to seeing how he continues to develop as boston's PG
@@ethanhof2717 yeah don't know if he really deserved it more than others but I like that they actually gave it to a guard. Maybe some of the leagues other best defending guards will step their game up tryna get it in the future now that they see its possible.
@@Dnero518im kinda irritated Smart lost dpoy in 2022 to Giannis. Biggest robbery
Finally can answer this without hesitation. Yes, HE IS.🧤
I still remember some Oklahoma state games when Marcus Smart was all the hype but he’s hella underrated now!!
Marcus using the same defensive techniques being used by Kawhi.
I hope many more players catches up to it. Defense is amazing to watch.
Also this guy’s weight helps him too. It was around 245 1-2 yrs ago. He lost like 15-20 with an off-season fitness regime to get more explosive. He’s built like a tank and is not afraid to use it.
Came back to this after he won defensive player this year
The only guard that gives him competition is Jrue Holiday
Jrue Holiday is a star ! One of the best 2 ways players in the last decade.
Jimmy Butler but he plays the 3 as often as the 2
Dejounte Murray's on the come up though
Pat Beverly
DeJounte and Thybulle in my book.
YESSS. I asked for this on the Davis video and received it! [Edit: Just finished the video, it’s disappointing to discover that even though Marcus seems to play as big as the best defenders in the league, he simply doesnt match up. However, I’m glad his value isn’t understated at all. Another great video!]
He's like a small Draymond
He is incredible. He just yanks the ball away from anybody, guards 1 through 5, stops guys he isn't even guarding, and just does things you don't see from anybody else. He is a defensive ninja.
This is the best basketball on RUclips. I've decided now, good knowledge of the stats combined with insightful eye test analysis.
*Tony Allen's voice* 1st TEAM ALL-DEFENSE! ☝
because right now, i consider thinking basketball...... to be the best hoops channel......on the internet.
I didn’t know I wanted a Smart defense analysis video since I watch this.
Really great content, as usual!!
Love this series one defense. You should do a jrue holiday video
Now he definitely should make a video on him after Lillard called him the best defensive player/guard in the league.
I knew Smart was always a pestering force on defense but I did not know just how impactful he really was! Great vid as always bringing light to these players who aren’t always brung up by mainstream sports media
Who's here after Smart won the 2022 DPOY?
As a long time Celtics fan, I can’t imagine him not on the Celtics. He also complements our J’s so well too.
Man I just watched like 4 of these videos. The technical analysis of these players is really impressive. Great videos.
Here a year later and Marcus Smart is the 2022 DPOY
The best sport yt channel ever, way better than mainstream media
I've been searching YT for years for an uploader who likes to breakdown all the parts of defense. More like this!
Rewatching this after Smart won DPOY... and you're completely right. Celtics' unbelievable defence, apart from Smart's effort, is made possible by the development of Rob Williams as one of the league's top rim protectors. Great analyses!
Celtics Fan here and always been a Smart supporter.
But watching this video made me appreciate Smart more in a different perspective
So much things he actually does that doesnt get recognized
This video aged well, congrats Smart on being the first guard to get DOPY since Gary Payton 👏
He is my fav player in the league! bro is inspirational with that hustle and IQ
Thank you for the great analysis on how just following the basics can improve defensive impact! Can you please do a career analysis of Mike Conley? There are various claims of him being underrated and overrated especially due to his injury this year and the fact that he wasn't an all-star.
Here 1 year later when Marcus Smart is the first point guard since GP to win DPOY. He’s come a long way, heart of the Celtics and we’re all proud of him. YOUNG GAME CHANGER
I was waiting for this video for awhile. The amount of videos you make about the Celtics make me think you like them as much as I do.
Here we are
I use to not think much of his game other than to acknowledge his defensive tenacity, but over the last 3 years he’s really impressed me with the growth of his game.
Awesome to see all the efforts by smother brother (Smart), finally pay off. Well deserved!
I've watched BB for a long time and do not remember another guard who plays as "big" as Smart does. His defense is excellent even when hes guarding fives.
Guys who can guard one through five are usually bigs who are agile. Not 6'3" guards who can play like they're 6'10"!!!!
The Celtic switching defense would not be nearly as effective without Smart on one end and Rob(who's extremely agile for his size) on the other. It's not like any team can just switch to this defensive philosophy and succeed. You need the right roster for it to work.
I wonder how many times we should ask for that Jonathan Isaac breakdown.
Ben, have a mercy!
It will come after Isaacs first Dpoy just wait a couple if years
This aged VERY well. Good stuff.
I love how unbiased these videos are
As always, great vid, but maybe you want to check the description; at least for me it displayed the one from the recent Bucks video. Keep up the great work!
Why does he taunt lebron james with his finals record on the front of his jersey lol
cuz its funny as hell
It was just a joke because he's #36. Smart was 36 before Bron was 3-6 in the finals.
@@gremcilia_immermurin it's a 3-6 number 36 joke
You can already see certain group of fans are taking this seriously lol
Gonna have to change it to 46 next season
Marcus Smart is one of those guys you need for a title team
Jordan Davis ye
No. He is an overrated so called heart of the team. He is an average joe player.
@@elchichosantana6410 what u mean 🤣🤣🤣
@@jaheimraheim4115 he is an average player. A drunk.Larry Bird can shoot 60 pts against Marcus Smart using his left hand.
@@elchichosantana6410 old head
Smart is a player that is so much better than any statistics can show. Man is pure heart
This is the analysis we want more of! Absolutely great!
Crazy how every new video is better than the last one.
I have this channel's entertainment performance as a slight negative but that analysis is enough to thrust it to sub-allstar territory for me. Because right now, I think this channel is the best data driven basketball channel in youtube.
ahhh love it. Love Smart. Would love to see a Pat Bev video too
My favorite player in the league! Met him twice one of the coolest guys in the league. Marcus Genius
Amazing video! Finally an analysis of Marcus Smart. Love this fookin channel :)
this video came out a year earlier. really solid predictions on the 3'n'D point guard take
this video came out in 2020
@@swasho2939 thanks for clarifying. It said it was posted a year ago, but wasn't sure
coming here 1 year later just as marcus smart won dpoy. goes to show the quality of this content!
Would like to watch analysis on prime D. wade’s defense and blocking techniques. Also on whether he was one of the best defensive guards in the NBA
I’d love to see an updated Ben Simmons video sometime in the near future. The Sixers are planning on using him more at the 4 spot as a roller and I think that will make ask the difference in the world come playoff time
Watch his video on Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons already plays as a forward in the half court. I don't think there will be any difference besides what the media calls him.
Lol How'd that work out?
Well this aged perfectly
YES!! He’s been defending bigs this year. He deserves it.
Hes the best and most versatile defensive guard in the league and deserves serious consideration for DPOY
Ben Simmons is 6’10 buddy and more athletic than smart lol
@@Thanosdidtherighthing so what..? Smart is still a better defender
@@19turtledog Meaning he can do everything smart can do and much much more.
@@Thanosdidtherighthing okay and lebron is better than ben simmons what's your point? This is about Smart and his defense. Which he plays better than 6'10 ben Simmons
Thrilling work as always
I was wondering if you can do a video on Michael Jordan's DPotY reward and how he got it even though he's not a big man.
And how he didn’t actually deserve it and robbed Hakeem?
@@jonjuko8859 I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you that Hakeem should had won, but it's still very impressive to come second to one of the best defensive players ever in the NBA.
Why not one about Gary Payton instead?
Because he’s bald. Simple
He averaged like 4 stops per game (steals + blocks) and had one of the best oFG% in 88.
I think you should do these breakdowns on retired players. This video made me think of Gary Payton and it would be sick to do a vid about him
Love this video, very informative as always
lets go love the celtics love
I play very similar to Marcus smart. I hope to make a few all defensive teams, win a championship and have a long an successful NBA career starting from being drafted round 2 pick 16.
i was waiting for someone to drop a video on smart. tnks
great video! Smart torches the Mavs every time we play them. Something not mentioned that i think is relevant, is the amount of points scored off of one of these perimeter steals. While bigs block shots and impact opponent shooting percentage, they rarely result in a pick6. So that added value may or may not show up on advanced D metrics.
The other thing is that by hounding people coming up court, how does that affect the other teams efficiency in the halfcourt? by eating off 8s of a possession, that should have a huge impact in teams that rely on a primary ballhandler creating offense (like the Mavs or Rockets). Overall i think you slightly undervalue Smart here, even if the metrics agree with you. This is one where the eye test seems to point to him being top 10 defensively.
Love these analyses, keep on the good work!
He is one of my favorite players
Love the Lawler shoutout at 2:34
As an undersized defensive guard myself, I will always have a soft spot for Smart. Him at OKState was masterful.
I know your reading these comments and THANK YOU FOR USING THE ORIGINAL BACKGROUND MUSIC. YOU SHOULD BE ON ESPN.
Another important attribute he has is his energy. His outstanding hustle is like a lightning rod for his teammates. Besides his on the court hustle, he also seems to fire up his team off the court. The Celtics came out in game 3 against Miami and played really well, all after Smart took it to his teammates in the locker room after the game 2 loss.
I thought this vid is more a Debatte about who is the best guard defender but I'm definitely happy with what I got
He's a very skilled defender with a lot of energy. Terrifying combo.
Great video man, keep them coming!
Love the flash reference, keep up the fire analysis
You've got the wrong description for the video FYI, but good vid, 2020 the year of defence for Ben Taylor.
Loved this video! Such amazing skills
If you hear this instrumental you know it’s a banger
I've returned to this video. He is now the DPOTY
Consistently great videos🙏🏿
He is the most important player on the team. Nowhere near the best, but by far the most important. We won't win if he isn't in the game
Love Marcus Smart's game. He realized he was never going to be a top 2 or 3 scoring option. Players like Smart and Beverly make others play hard on defense because they see them giving everything and they get little to no shine. They bring toughness to teams and back down from no one. Lastly to play defense at that level requires pride, film study, and heart. Him challenging and blocking that dunk, most would be too scared they would get put on a poster. Not him, his pride does not allow him to quit. Loved playing with guys like him because I knew we would ALWAYS have a fighting chance.
Yes! Another vid!!!
Imagine a lineup of PG: Smart SG: Gary Payton. SF: LeBron PF: Giannis C: Gobert 😳
Yeah you don't know ball
This vid aged well
Great video! I’d love to hear your thoughts on the Spurs’ young backcourt in Dejounte Murray and Derrick White.
You should do a video on Joe Ingles, his playmaking and bball IQ are very underrated imo