Altremer: What if the Fourth Crusade Sailed to Egypt?
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2023
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Altremer is not just the answer to a very interesting “What If” question. It’s an entire world, a branched timeline from our own, in which storytelling collides with beautiful visuals. The big scale geopolitical medieval world blends with personal tales.
In this grand medieval world of geopolitical intrigue, narratives unfold on both macro and personal scales. Immerse yourself in the compelling tales of over a dozen characters, brought to life by the extraordinary performances of talented voice actors. Their arcs weave a tapestry that stretches from the heart of Paris to the exotic landscapes of Alexandria.
Witness the 13th-century world in a way you've never seen before, meticulously illustrated by a team of five skilled artists. Altremer ventures into uncharted territory, introducing a new genre that pays homage to the best of historical and fantasy storytelling.
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What if Earth in Star Wars is official?
Love your content 😊😊😊❤❤❤
Unfortunate timing that this released just as I have to go to sleep
@@pyeitme508wouldn't that just get conquered a million times and throughout its history depending where it was be involved in many of the Republic's Wars like the Sith the mandalorians and the yushan vuong War what's my end up annihilating the planet
Cody answers crusaders prayers confirmed
It's hard to believe that your channel started off as being a few simple power point style videos with no narration. Your channel has come so far over the years. This story telling and animation is absolutely amazing
It's now a machinima channel? Not very impressive.
@@GreenMudkipz I'd like to see you do better
Lol
True
It's a shameless commercial for a video game. No props are deserved for this.
Absolutely love all the Chivalry 2 footage used for illustration here. Mordhau would probably be more "realistic" but Chivalry looks more theatrical.
A character driven althist show that isn't set in modern times? I'm gonna follow this thing to the very end
Cody's narration is just phenomenal.
Saw your comment on flash point history
Very welcome to hear him so excited.
Agreed aside from the French pronunciations lmao
Nice idea, but these machinima fight scenes can't really stand on their own without narration, which makes it hard to follow the characters. Give everything a step up in pace and a notch down on the music in the dialouge parts and this can be even better! Great work anyways, keep it up!
Im suprised that we did not get a tv show with a premise like this, im really hoping this succedes's . Good Luck Guys
Thank you so much for your support!
Good to see Theobald had someone around to save his life this time around.
I take it in our timeline, he succumbed to the snake bite?
@@theresafisher8781no, he died in 1201 to disease
That intro was epic and we need more of it
More is on the way! Get ready for an entire season of quality content :)
@@Altremerawesome
@@Altremerdon’t think you can put Chivalry 2 in there without me noticing, buddy
No I disagree. Old format didn't digress into visual only. It was pure lecture, more or less. That's all I wanted. I can generate my own PC visuals, dont need 6 minutes of runtime to be video only and another six minutes to be painfully slow narration about almost nothing.
Boring.
Intro was great
Wow!!! This is incredible - amazing animation with outstanding artwork in the setting of a great story. You guys have done so well here - ‘all the world is a stage!’
Thank you so much for your support!
@@Altremer anytime, this was outstanding - can’t wait to see the role Kolev has me slated for
This si the funniest comment ever, now do a joke about the voice acting being "incredible" hahahah
@tylershadlow5792 you've got an issue with it?
Awwww. It's so wholesome seeing two of my history dads interact in such a nice way
I’m not a big fan of the style, but congratulations on working on a bigger project, and I know it will only get better from here.
Thank you so much! What do you think we should improve on the most?
@@Altremer Oh, wasn’t expecting a response haha. Personally I think some of the styles clash with each other somewhat, so working in the transition from one to the other so it isn’t as sudden, and perhaps avoiding fast or unnecessary switching between styles. Some scenes look very detailed in 3D, others are 3D with 2D, there’s the main political map, the more local map showing forests and villages and the individual scenes that aren’t of one particular style. The variety is obviously unavoidable due to the collaborative nature of the project, but I think they can be integrated better.
The main political map is awesome in its detail and readability, many maps tend to focus a lot on details and end up sacrificing readability because of it. But I do dislike a bit of the look of the map, it feels a lot like a mobile game map, the terrain effects are fine but could be better, the edges feel odd, kind of like if they were made of a reflective cut crystal or something, the water doesn’t feel like it belongs in the style of the rest of the map and could use more variety if you are going for the realistic water look, as not all of the waters around Europe look the same, there are different colors, like in EUIV for example.
The dialogue parts feel a little stiff, I think something that would make them feel more dynamic is more variety in the character stills and animation so when they are talking it feels more like in a visual novel and less like the silhouette just gets brighter when the character is talking. I do see some of those stills I mention being used, Louis is the one I felt was more animated, but Theobald felt much stiffer and I feel as though he barely if ever changed expressions or positions while talking.
And I just want to say something, thank you for responding not only so fast, but thank you for responding at all. I’m glad the project is being done in such a way that the team feels comfortable asking for feedback, that shows you care about the quality of the project and how to improve, hope my observations are useful.
Edit: I just read your channel’s description, and wow, just five artists? It’s a pretty good job for having such a small team, especially considering that each one probably does their own part. Don’t overwork yourselves too much, and if the project’s format and budget allows you try to get some more staff to lower the workload.
All these years later and this channel's work just gets ever more impressive.
I am comfortable saying that you are one of the best RUclipsrs ever Cody.
So, I respect what this video and series are going for and trying to do, I don’t think you can any that anyone working on this was not trying their absolute hardest to bring the vision to life as best they can… but I think this needed another redraft before it was made public.
The first issue is the framing and setting. There’s a lot of stuff thrown at the audience that they’re just not given the proper time to fully take in. And if the intended audience is Cody’s regulars of History super fans, I don’t think that’s as much of a problem but if this is meant to try and reach a more mainstream audience, I think you’ll run into a lot of issues. Like when Theo and Philip are talking about their wives, for example, I can see a lot of people being confused as to what it is they’re badmouthing each other for. I just think you needed some more expositional setup to introduce people who aren’t that familiar to this setting and these characters as it really does feel like you’re thrown headfirst into it with no time to adjust. And especially when the title teases an alternate fourth crusade, this can seem like a lot of unnecessary background information for no reason.
The second is the presentation. Now, the overhead Paradox like map view is spectacular, I have no problems with that and comment the artists for that entirely. Same with the 3D fights, while not perfect, I think you got as much out of those as you possibly can. Same with the graphics like the Historia Civilis view and the tourney matchup… But I think the anime visual novel style choice for most of the dialogue just doesn’t work. There occasions where the dialogue and voice lines don’t fully match up or there are spelling mistakes in this video, but those can be fixed. What I think is the bigger problem is that it makes these characters feel more stilted and unemotive than they’re supposed to. This style works for a lot of VNs but I don’t think it works here. Something like the art style for the “Dance of the Dragons” extras on the GOT DVDs would probably have worked better. Still images of the characters holding for a few seconds then a second frame showing a different expression and so on. Idk, something like that but I just don’t think the VN style works here.
The third issue, and I do feel bad about even bringing this up, is the voice acting. It’s not that anyone does a bad job, it’s just that they’re clearly American. And their voices just clash so hard with the attempt to capture a medieval tone and aesthetic. Cody is the exception to this but maybe I’ve just been listening to him for so long I’m just used to him, idk. And I really don’t think you can do anything about this but as I’m listening to this video, I am painfully aware of the fact that I’m listening to people read lines and not characters speaking.
Again, I do appreciate the talent that’s gone into making this and when the series is finished, I’m sure that these issues won’t matter nearly as much when the whole breadth of the project can be seen in full but for now, these issues do stand out to me and prevent me from enjoying it as much as the team clearly enjoyed making it. ://
Yeah the voice acting is super cringe. Right from the getgo I was taken out by the very first voice I heard.
Only one of the voice actors is american, actually. :)
@@Merriganmusic Then why does it sound so bad? It REALLY sounds like Americans.
@@WillyShankspeare I wouldn't know, friend. :) Just telling you the facts.
@@WillyShankspeare Something I've noticed from time to time is that when non-English speakers try to speak English, they tend to sound American. Besides, both Simon and Guy had British accents even though they were French in real life
What if Zambia won the space race
Or what if britain did. I love the least sane althistories as they are so fun.
@@smellysox1567What if we had anything even remotely resembling a space programme
@MancCuler the ariel program was technically one. 1962 to 79. Some were launched via blue streak or mabe black arrow I believe. Incredibly late though
@@smellysox1567I'm pretty sure Britain winning the space race is far more plausible than Zambia.
@mappingshaman5280 still very unplausable though.
Its hard to believe it has been nearly a decade since I started watching you. It started with your Armenian Genocide video when I was in 8th grade. Now I am about to graduate with a BS in physics. You started with powerpoints and now have essentially a fully animated TV series.
Looks better than I thought it would be. Great work
Thank you so much! Which part was your favorite?
@@Altremer 25:36
Sensational work! Can't wait for the rest. Really looking forward to seeing how episode two turned out after all our work on the visuals and animation.
Thank you so much! I can't wait to see you put on the armor and march forward towards destiny!
Any time I see a RUclipsr of good historical quality giving praise, I give their comment a like and smile as it tells me the video has to be good (playing into a fallacy I grant you but I can't help it.)
I appreciate the effort but this really, really dragged for me. Pacing and timing seems way off, and i started skipping through the fighting.
Haha I've played so much Chiv2 that any time footage from the game shows up I feel compelled to yell out "AGATHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" irl
Honestly, I'm surprised more people in the comments are not noticing it.
We filmed most of the scenes in the public duel servers so we had random people showing up and beating us up. The blooper reel would be longer than the video itself.
Damn, this is a multi-episode series?
Yes indeed :)
I really loved that intro. This channel really has evolved into something amazing, and this is not even its final form. Keep up the good work!
Seeing Chivalry 2 used as Machinima is a personal dream come true. And to think it would be funny Alternate History man to be the one to do. Not that I'm complaining. Excited for this seemingly new Alternate Hitory Hub era.
Love it ( sadly the RUclips probably killed the series already ), my only criticism is:
1) The characters speak in the Shakespearean info-dumps for the sake of the viewer, which I think would be better left for the narrator.
2) We need a way to understand what is a real history and what is a diversion.
As right now I'm wondering "is it a real tournament?", or a local king wants more "Prestige" to pass "High Crown Authority" law. =)
This is a part of history I'm not particularly familiar with -- will we get a breakdown of where the story diverges from history, and what had to change or go differently in order for these events to occur?
Oh man, a whole mini series?! Fuck yeah!
This is a full series, we also have a mini-series that adds context to it on our patreon :)
I'm sorry, WHO fell off a balcony and was crushed by a dwarf? Did that actually ever happen to anyone? Seriously, great work guys. The Altremer project is amazing.
Henry II of Champagne, true story!
sorry i was the dwarf
I’m deeply upset this wasn’t recommended at all to me
Holy hell. What was that intro?
You have gone... above and beyond.
Thank you so much, our team put an immense amount of passion and effort into this!
@@Altremer I can tell!
above and beyond cringy
@@GlizzyGoblin757 Who even are you?
I’m not the only one noticing the delay right now
you dont know how much i LOVED this video and everything about it... the production value, the animation, the storytelling
and its from a place of high esteem and the goodwill for this collaboration to be as good as it can be, i have couple suggestions
- careful with the audio mixing, when anyone pronounce the letter S it comes out too strong
- the animations must be sped up so it matches the timing of who is speaking
- label the shields and crests so people, who are not so familiar with them, wont get lost
please take these not as critique but as what i meant them to be... small suggestions to try to improve an already great deal
Thank you so much for your feedback, there were so many elements on this project that were entirely new and original and there are always going to be hiccups along the way. Hopefully going forward we will tweak and fix all of them. We love seeing comments like these!
@@Altremer Hey! I love this series that y'all are cooking up. My question is are the episodes going to be on your channel?
WOW. Love the new style. But don't lose the old one 😢
Don’t worry, it is only a special project.
Cody was made to be a narrator man
Cody really went and made a althistory visual novel
That was the most life I'd heard in Cody's voice in a while. Glad to see you doing work that you're so excited about! And very much fun, too.
Jeez 92k views. That’s disappointing for one of the highest quality alternative histories this year.
I really hope this video takes off. It's really sad how big creators like you and Armchair Historian get so few views compared to something like brightside.
From around 25:35 to the end of the video there is a serious and distracting desync between the audio and visuals. Just something I wanted to let you and the team know that may or may not be an easy fix.
I’ve been waiting a month for part 2
Let the journey begin!
Crusader Kings and Bannerlord-esque stuff for animation? Nice.
I prefer your style of Alt-History! Very balanced and realistic. Not falling into the politically extreme traps that a lot of channels fall into. Very enjoyable!
This chapter has brought it to a new level! Congratulations and I look forward to seeing more!
Also, not to be biased, but I am LIVING for Merrigan's music and voice acting!
I'm glad I'm not the only one that has been here for awhile and been able to see how the channel has grown. Fantastic work Cody, bravo!
Cody, Pleaseeeeee don’t make us wait for long. When you first announced this I was skeptical, I didn’t think that the series was gonna be bad, but I didn’t think I would be really interested in it. I could safely say after investing 40 minutes of my life I cannot wait for the next part. Please Cody!!! Please quickly!!!!
Only problem I have with this video format is it takes multiple videos to answer the question.
What if the Fourth Crusade sailed to Egypt? Maybe we'll find out in the next one.
Jean Claude Van Damme. Imagine an alternate history where Van Damme had all his lines dubbed.
Good job yall, this was pretty great 😊
History really is much more interesting when it's a story. When the people involved feel like characters that you can sympathize with. When the past feel like a living world that you could visit.
This youtube series now makes me long for an HBO show like this.
cody, what is this. I mean like, holy, this is so much more than i could ever even imagine from your content, it is amazing. congratulations.
The Fourth Crusade, also known as The Original Gamer Moment
Venice's miniscule amount of trolling
I’d say the Roman Jewish wars were the original gamer moment
It's finally happening, Cody is making an Alt-history audio book !
You need to make people more aware that this series is continuing on a new channel exclusively dedicated to it. I really want this series to keep going.
What is this other channel
@@jacquelinevillatoro2908 the channels name is the same as the series. Altremer.
I cannot wait for the second episode!
The artist for the characters sprites did a great job.
Wow, Cody I am highly impressed and blown away by this 1st episode. Massive props to you and everyone else involved.
just got through the intro and the fact I was not already subscribed was pure heresy
Like im gonna come off hard, but as much as this work is genuinely amazing, the music outstanding, the voicing, the art style, the animation is just unbelievably great, i just found this to be full of fillers, you could've cut a lot of scenes and parts to assure a dynamic continuous story or you could've gone for a full on narration style which would've been less costly, the miss maching of both styles doesn't really work well for me, the video kinda feels like it doesn't know what it wants to be
And believe me as harsh as this sound i find this incredible and i appreciate the great effort the team has put in, with great motivation, but to me at least, it feels like when someone puts such genuine and pure enthusiastic effort with great technical abilities, but it gets corrupted by an unclear vision or by not reaching the audience well
Thank you for this amazing comment.
What our team wanted to do with Altremer is create a series or even entire world, with characters who have their own motivations. As you mentioned an alarming level of hard word and dedication was put into this project, especially when it comes to research and writing. The vision is clear, but it is:
#1 Expensive to fill every frame with engaging content, hence why we relied on video game footage (Something which in hindsight might have been a bad call)
#2 Takes a long time to come together. For a story to truly be engaging and memorable it cannot begin and end within a single episode.
Regardless we have taken note of everything that worked and everything that didn't and will strive to make this series stand out as a truly original and entertaining piece of media.
I'd have to agree here. I actually like some of the video game footage (the overfly of Jerusalem was great for example) much more than the meaningless chatter or fighting or whatnot, which doesn't seem to add anything to our understanding of what is actually going on. It felt like this could be 15 minutes instead of 40 and still convey the exact same information and feelings.
Maybe it's just a bit too...different from what is usually on this channel. It's certainly a different way of telling a story, and just as valid, and as with everyone else I can tell that a ton of effort and hard work went into it.
This is wild. The very best stuff from a fabulous RUclipsr and great crew. Well done Cody!
I love the trajectory this channel is taking!
Alright. I've been convinced. Visual Novels are the future
Theobald: "God please release me from this Purgatory!"
God: "No!"
Theobald: "What if you send me back in time to save Constantinople?"
God: "Aight bet"
I really enjoy the voice acting. Good work to the whole team!
Well you’ve got me excited! Let’s see how different the Crusades can go!
What a great prologue! I like this! Also, thank you for introducing me to Theobald and Blanche of Navarre! This is the first time I heard of them!
Thank you so much for your support! What was your favorite part about them?
@@AltremerPersonally, the clash between their couple relation and the overall requirement of being a noble. Also, the voice actors are great!
@@Altremer Well, I like the fact that I get to know the historical figures I never know before. And of course, I like that typical "the youth refused to listen to an elder's wisdom" trope that happened between the French King and Theobold as well because I wanted to see Theobold falls on his knees after he realized that his uncle was right all along in the future episode.
And may I know what is the stopping point in this series? The point is that continuing this to the Victorian Era might be very hard. After all, the survival of the Roman Empire in this world means Britain will have harder time protecting its interests in India due to an alliance between the Roman Empire and Moscow. Not to mention that the Protestantism in this world might be more influenced by what the Orthodox Church considered as heretical such as the Montanism and Paulicianism. Plus, this means Egypt will become the independent Christian Kingdom in North Africa with heavy French influence. If they decided to go for Egypt immediately with all men that showed up and not even attacking the Dalmatian coasts, of course. But the point here is that eventually, the Roman Empire will become stronge once again. And when it did retake Anatolia back from the Turkic Beys, Egypt and the Levant will be the next targets of military expansion. So in a way, a clash between the Latin Crusaders and the Orthodox Romans are inevitable. It is merely prolonging it by going to Egypt as originally planned. But as that was happening, Iran is reunified. Either under the House of Timur or the Safavid, the Crusaders might be willing to seek an alliance with the rising Islamic Iranian Empire in the east to preserve Egypt's independence, thus sparking the first Roman-Persian War ever since the time of Emperor Heraclius and Shah Khosrow II. And if the Timurid ruler or the Safavid Shah emerged victorious and the Romans' advance is checked at the cities such as Aleppo or Antioch, status quo will returned for the time being with the Roman Empire, Iran and Egypt being the major powers in the Middle East. Back to Britain, I can see that its allianced with Morocco and Portugal will be taken more seriously in this timeline. And to prove this, the Tudor monarchs who converted to Protestantism most likely will given support to the Moroccan Sultans in the expansion eastward to bring the entirety of the Maghreb under one banner in order to prevent a war between Morocco and Portugal with the ultimate aim of forming the Triple Alliance with England being the glue that held this alliance together. So as soon as the influence of Egypt's Catholic ruling elites began to wane, Britain will most likely encouraged Morocco to conquer Egypt and make it part of the Moroccan Sultan's domains. By doing so, Britain will have a bastion to protect its interests in India by the time of the Victorian Era. I don't know if the Triple Alliance will still be a thing at that point or not, though. But what I know is that by the 19th century of this world, the Roman Empire will most likely become the Sick Man of Europe that heavily relying on Moscow while the Empire of Brazil might be considered by Britain as a potential ally.
I normally just listen to your channel in the background. I had to stop this one so I could watch it in my free time. Great job
I can see a lot of work went into this but the dramatization elements dont work for me I prefer a dryer telling of events.
So when's the next episode
That “I survived Richard, I survived Barbarossa…” line goes hard
How did I not even realize this existed until now?
THIS WAS FREAKING AMAZING DUDE! :D
I seriously hope this takes off, the production value is insane
I think it's important in an alternate history video to make clear where you are diverging from history, and that's not present at all in this video.
We haven't reached the POD yet
@Altremer Then the title was a lie. It's nearly 40 minutes of set up that doesn't seem to go anywhere. It's like if the first episode of Plot Against America didn't even start out with Lindbergh entering the 1940 presidential race.
@@Altremer Then you should have made clear that you were establishing the setting. With what I do know, principally that Theobald died before he could go on crusade, though not the cause, I was thinking the POD was him surviving the snakebite.
Where’s part 2?
A whole tv show on youtube with 3D graphics from a powerpoint with bad music. This channel has gone through alot
The Outremer possessions and the Crusades of Varna are extremely interesting yet obscure historical topics for most people! Can't wait to see the rest of this series ❤️🔥
Honestly I’m not sure how I feel about the new format
Absolutely marvellous! So excited for episode 2!
I can't wait for more of this to come out. I'm already hooked!
Awesome video! I really enjoyed watching it, and I look foward for the next episode! I praise all the people that worked so hard for this masterpiece to exists, and I have to say congratulations for achieving this impressive milestone.
This series feel like a RPG, and the story is brilliant, I like the characters and I hope to see more moments like we've seen today! I will also like longer videos but I understand that this may never happen because of the hard work this require.
I must praise the voice actors who did a very good job, but also the whole crew!
My final suggestion is to develop a video game, because in my opinion it will be a hit and people will surrely enjoy playing it! Good material for GOTY.
Thank you so much for the in-depth comment!
The fight footage is from a video game
Chivalry 2
Its really fun and id highly recommend it
Thank you for the awesome feedback. The team has been working on this project for months, and it feels great to see the reception!
@@lazydog5406 I know I play it too, it feels so realistic
@@tomgarritson5046 I loved the episode and I can't wait for the next one!
This new style of video is really neat. I like the visual novel aspect to it, showing unique dialogue from the characters.
I'm not that big of a fan honestly
@@twinzzlers i wasn’t sure at first too, as I was too used to his regular style, but I tried to look at this as an experiment in storytelling for the channel.
@Private-Potato Thing is, I watch Alternate History Hub for Cody, not this
@@twinzzlers I understand that. Some people are drawn to this because of Cody, while others like me are drawn to the alt-history scenario itself.
Let’s see where Cody and the crew go with this before reflecting on it further.
It brings a tear to the eye to see what you’ve become. Been here since day one and am so proud.
Can't wait for the second episode.
That "Alt"-remer pun in the title is gold
I wonder why this didn't get promoted in the algorithm
Can't wait for part 2
This is too good as a long time viewer i am really happy for you my man!
Truly we be blessed with great content as always!
May luck bless your series cody following you for a long time and i wish you and the team the best of luck.
Clicked this so fast that it said "no views" when I got here lol
This is beautiful. Keep up the good work
Really enjoyed this. I really look forward to seeing how things will continue from here. ^_^
I do personally prefer the old style but I like this as well keep up the work
The old style is still going strong, this is more of an addition to what the channel already offers
Chivalry 2 reference 😲
Dude, I felt like I was watching a Let's Play RPG! This was awesome!
Omg this is amazing! I can't wait for the next episode!!!
Woah, this is the best chivalry 2 mod I've seen
This is vanilla Chivalry 2 filmed in public duel servers. We couldn't get the Torn banner devs to give us a private server, so we had to film this while random people show up and beat us over the head with a chair.
@@tomgarritson5046 That must've been hell lol
All of the Chivalry II gameplay to inhance the story makes me so happy
this is very intense. at first i thought that first every road trip race vid was kickck ass. ... this is !$#%^ Steven Spielburg quality. ya'll BETTER get the streamy for historical docu-drama.
18:40 ….”who doesn’t love a crusader in a biplane…” WTF!? Clever product placement. And I watched it! Nice.
This is amazing. What a great idea on advancing the content of your channel.
I have been waiting for this! I am so hyped!
Amazing work! Can’t wait to see more !