@GorillaMind I really hope this is you, Derek, and you can address an account issue. I was banned from buying your products due to "customer service" stating that I committed "returns abuse". I was shipped two orders, six months apart, where nearly half the products sent gave me food-poisoning-like effects with spasms, diarrhea, and body pains. When presented this information both times, they allowed to return the first order, but denied a return of the second order, full refunded, but banned me from ordering ever again. Now I'm kind of a big fan, and if you check my emails and contacts via the website, you'll see I just about did your job reformulating MODE among being months in advance of other products you put out, even hitting Pumpkin Spice protein (but no Rootbeer Float!). I'm just kidding about all that, although the similarities are spooky (just proves I'm paying attention to the same trends you are haha, feeslgoodman, seeing the meter tick on all the recommendations, even the flavors, colors, the energy drink, protein bars, the herbs, the electrolyte product, the AlphaGPC in MODE (not quite the 1200mg you'v always referenced, and no ALCAR!) and half a dozen other things, in a sea of underdosing conartists, it's a cool thing to see "feedback response" in whatever amount I really had, just seeing an awake and aware formulator show up on the scene is rare, although you have to watch out for the those boys over at Underground Bio Labs, lookin' perty good, too.) My point is, I have a great deal of respect for your ethos and the quality of formulations and just want to be able to buy Gorilla Mind (while also being ensured of safe quality). And I shouldn't be punished for wanting to return 100% of everything for you to do safety tests on to keep your customer base safe by helping to root out any quality control issues in the pipeline. So please, please, please, look over my emails, I'm your boy, I'm on your side, GM is my brand! Just let me buy Gorilla Mind at the prices you offer on your website because I can't buy half the stuff I want at Vitamin Shoppe! And here's the biggest telling thing about my case: I've purchased at least 4 containers of MODE so far from Vitamin Shoppe and has ZERO adverse effects like the ones from those two 2023 orders. Funny, innit? I just want good stuff without being abused and cut off. Help me out, man. Please. Please!
Personally I like to use a scoop of your collagen protein along with your pre workout 30-40 min along with your hydroprime and a carb source. CRAZY pump. It only bothers me when I see a woman with a big booty walk by... lol... Great job Derek!
@@Supersaiyinican I'm pretty sure they emphasised that multi vits are a waste of money because most companies use really poor forms of X vitamin/ mineral at arbitrary dosages. Derecks had a multi vit in his personal stack for years he made a couple videos on his supplement stack.
@@I-do-not-read-replies I shit first thing in the morning so I can have a productive day at work. Iv been going no pre for the last 2 weeks and so far it’s been fine. Hopefully I have your luck when I go back
I bought the very first drop of Gorilla mode, and I've bought absolutely no other preworkouts since, but the removal of N,N-Dimethylphenethylamine Citrate is a crushing blow. I would say at this point, I'm completely dependent on it. I've even switched my AM coffee to one scoop of Gorilla Mode Energy, and the difference I notice with and without this ingredient is HUGE. If I have a plain energy drink, I completely lose the mood elevation and motivation increase. Yes, it is absolutely not advisable to become reliant on a stim as I have, but the removal of this from the blend (and according to GM customer service, its likely removal from the upcoming new GME formula) means I'll either have to buy the compound separately, or stop using Gorilla Mind's products. Tragic to do this in the name of global compliance for a GRAS stimulant that I believe heavily contributes to the "OH WOW" effect that new users get from gorilla mode. RIP to the OG formula.
Ik youre a busy guy these days expanding your supp empire, but can you try and do more of these for your other products or even other things you are currently interested in researching like your blog. I love hearing you talk about things youve researched! Also im happy to see you finally got the multivitamin cus you replied to me that it was on the list of things to do more than a couple yrs ago now lol. Really happy you got such success been a supporter since 2019 :) and now marek health is helping me with my thyroid issue when normal dr would not. Big thanks to gorilla staff too!
Your dedication to creating the best products in the industry is why we continue to support your business. Gorilla Mode/Nitric has always been my go-to pre workout ever since I found out who was behind the formula. Thank you Derek, and Gorilla Mind!
Nitric 4 times a week for my evening workouts and Mode for my Saturday AM workout. I do not care what the general consensus is that pre workouts don't have scientifically backed effectiveness I definitely feel a difference from when I was using other pre's like bang, Legion, and a few others. My muscle soreness recovers significantly quicker, I used to be a 2nd day DOMS sufferer now im typically 100% 48 hours later etc. I get a great burst of energy once the mode or nitric kicks in. Very happy with this product and cannot see myself ever switching.
I like the increase in L Tyrosine, L Citruline and Betaine but i cant really call it an upgrade when it takes out the Eria and the Agmatine Sulfate, and also the increase in price doesnt seem to be justified while taking out what might be the most expensive ingredient in the formula while not adding anything that matches its effect(talking aboug Eria jarenesis), and 1g of salt really doesnt do anything that i cant do by myself by grabbing a spoon and pickling my tongue like Derek himself has suggested. I might give it a try but my expectations are low. I like a lot of gorilla mind products but im concerned when i see these kind of changes.
There are more changes than outlined in this comment, but I feel as though I summarized them, and adequately addressed what would be common questions about ingredient selection in the video. The formula is more expensive to make now, the max dose went from 30 > 40 g of ingredients. Also something to keep in mind, the actual space efficiency of ingredients differs dramatically, so even if you feel like one ingredient was more justifiable to keep than another, it doesn't mean that if you removed a gram of 1 thing, you then gain the exact space you need to fit 1 gram of any other ingredient. Some of the ingredients vary proportionally in how space efficient they are. Agmatine is still in Nitric, and the removal was a carefully considered and thoughtful process considerate of years of feedback, goals of the formula, literature, etc. It literally couldn't fit, and for what is supposed to be a stacked swiss-army knife pre-workout hitting all vectors (including energy and focus), leaning on Agmatine when we could push other areas harder, it just didn't make the cut. Also, N-Phenethyl, have you tried it solo? I believe it looks more exotic than it actually behaves in practical application, and truly feel our Nootropic blend hits harder in this formula, but I understand why that would be of concern. I'll have a more detailed video out that gets way more granular on this stuff to explain how I justified the additions and swaps made. If you try it and genuinely don't think it's good, show customer service this comment, and we'll refund you.
@@MorePlatesMoreDatescomparing The Base pre workout and this new one… it really does look like the significant add ons are glycerol and salt… which is cheaper to buy separately and add it yourself. Now the pre workout is $60 too… I’m not exactly an expert but I’m curious if this might potentially even be a downgrade
@@LordHeroMc there is 100 grams of Tyrosine in a tub of Mode vs. 45 grams in a tub of Base. There is 80 grams of Betaine Anhydrous in Mode vs. 37.5 grams in Base. 16 grams Alpha-GPC vs. 9 grams. I could go on, (and will in my longer video).
@@SuperStructYeah. Also its effect is better endurance, literally does nothing in body building Rep ranges if your fitness/cardiovascular health is where it should be
Bought a container yesterday and I've got a bit left of the old formula. Once it comes in I'm going to alternate them for the week. I hope I don't die from the awesome.
Been using GM 1.0 since fall of '20, so I'll be keeping an empty tub for nostalgia's sake. On another note, I bought 2.0 day one and have had maybe a week of experience with it. Fruit punch is absolutely delicious and I absolutely feel the cognitive benefits/energy profile much more - and this is coming from someone that stacks 1-1.5 scoops with 10mgs of adderall. I also have tried a few lifts stacking it with the new intra formula and it is really a killer combo. Thanks for all you do Derek!
Just got my tub today and my first time trying gorilla mode and my experience with it was great! Pump is awesome and the focus is fantastic! Oh and No crash amazing job man looking forward to you're other products!💪😁
Yes, make one that's a protein tub, guaranteed people will buy it. You'll be the only one in the industry with it. Just put everything in it, and call it "The Kitchen Sink". We go to you for the max efficacious dose of every ingredient. Put the things you took out back in, and add in every ingredient that increases your performance. WE WANT IT ALL.
Its more this is the limit of it still being a "pre-workout". The previous one already had issues mixing in any reasonable amount of water to be a "quick preworkout". It still needs to be something you can suck down in a minute before a workout.
I got the new Gorilla Mode. Double scooped on the first go. Heavy miss. Rename it "Stealth Gorilla Mode". Second time, 1.25 scoops, miss. Mixed in 4000 mg Peak O2 and 6000 mg of Beta Alanine with 1.5 scoop of Gorilla. THAT was the hit I was looking for. For future formulation I would suggest adding something for muscle fatigue recovery. Better focus would be a plus.
I literally just got a new can in and saw the scoop was bigger but the servings are the same and hoped to see if you had a video out. And you do! MPMD never disappoints
Just got my new formula today, and I definitely feel at the VERY least that the pump is MUCH stronger, which I honestly did not think was possible. In addition to that, I feel like I was way more focused in the gym, to the point that I was able to drown out the screams of the high school kids in there. Also feeling a sense of general happiness, which may just be because I was excited to receive my Grape Cotton Candy all day today. Great product, I have no complaints thus far.
One scoop felt incredible for me. However after a few days of use I noticed the scooper is 27 grams as opposed to the 19.9 grams stated on the label. Am I taking in more than what is printed on the label per scoop?
Glad to hear you liked the product! In regards to scoop weights, we can't guarantee the state of the powder (i.e. powder density, which impacts volume/weight in a given scoop) at all times in different moistures/temperatures and therefore the scoop weight isn't always completely consistent across conditions. Also, there are differences in serving weights between flavors (i.e. a 1 scoop serving between two flavors will often have a different net weight), which is why it's important to measure your scoop against the serving weight on the label for 100% accuracy. In addition, our quality control team always accesses scoop sizes to be well within the range of +/- 10% of the declared weight, which is an industry standard.
I’ve been loving respawn since it came out. I didn’t take the original Gorilla mode, but I just started the new formula and it is awesome. I used to stack the nitric with respond and now I don’t need to.
I didn’t even know you had the new prework out since I have the old one, and am planning on buying the new one, although I am quite disappointed in the removal of ingredients like Kanna and Dimethylphenethylamine. Any clue where to supplement with these?
when you said "absurdity territory" speaking on container size, it gave me flashback of og N.O. explode from back in the day. Anyway, love the content dude. Appreciate the panel breakdown.
When is the full breakdown coming out? At the end of the video it was mentioned that it should be out within a few days, but it has been four weeks now and still nothing??? Unless I’m looking in the wrong place. Thanks!
So does that mean that the gorilla mode high stim formula is not coming back in stock? It's a shame because out of all the gorilla mind stim/nootropic products, that was the hardest hitting one. On that stuff I felt like I was freakin levitating 45 min into the workout lol
I completely agree. I harassed customer service for a minute when it was out of stock, then they finally told me it was discontinued after the link disappeared. Then they said to be on the lookout for new formulas. That was before this release. I really miss the Signature series.
Yeah that one was a hitter for sure, way better than the original gorilla mode formula and honestly you only need 1 scoop with that to have an amazing workout
We chose to use regular L-Tyrosine over N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine because L-Tyrosine is more directly bioavailable, ensuring efficient and predictable increases in tyrosine levels without the need for metabolic conversion. However, in the case of energy drinks, we use N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine because it is more water-soluble and can be suspended in a liquid unlike L-Tyrosine.
I am so impressed, really. Derek is a bro who made what he wanted to use himself, brings a tear of happiness to my eye to see what Gorilla Mind has become. Now I'm buying the best multivitamin and the best preworkout on the market from him every month...can't wait to try it without kanna now, that stuff really triggered my gag reflex.
I know you said you’re bringing mode up to Nitric’s level. Are you going to readdress Nitric as well? Or is that pretty much where you want it? I prefer Nitric o er Mode because I usually work out in the afternoon and Nitric doesn’t keep me up all night. Love your products and how open and clear you are with the recipes and why you put in what you do.
I want Gorilla Mode Energy back with a new formula too. I've always loved the concept of energy drinks in powdered form. Less caffeine but with more nootropics would be ideal. Looking to use it for study sessions.
We'd highly recommend something like a half serving of Respawn for you, which would contain a heavy dose of nootropics and a moderate amount of caffeine that is likely to enhance your study sessions.
I am 7 months late to this video, and I just ordered one tub. I am very excited to try it out. Love the ingredient profile, especially the Citrulline and Alpha GPC dosage. Just a question though, wouldn't it be more beneficial to include Creatine HCL instead of Monohydrate for better absorption? I will combine this with FSU Serum - GlycoClear (Liquid Glycerol at 99.7% purity) 20 Grams, to get the craziest pumps I can get. Also, I've noticed that with pre-workout supplements that doesn't contain B-vitamins you'll get a hard crash at the end, which I found doesn't happen at the same impact when they are included, which is only a big plus in my book. I am not a professional in this area, so it could just be me.
I actually liked the bitter after taste. Im not looking for something that tastes good; i want to chug an affective suppliment. I hope the new formula is what you say it is, because i already got every thing i could ask for out of the original. Change makes me nervous because i dont believe the old formula was broken. In the past all the suppliments i loved always got more expensive and less affective
Have you tried it solo? I believe it looks more exotic than it actually behaves in practical application, and truly feel our Nootropic blend hits harder in this formula, but I understand why that would be of concern. This formula is more potent, and achieves more far reaching global compliance, was a win win in our eyes. If you try it and genuinely don't think it's good, show customer service this comment, and we'll refund you.
@@MorePlatesMoreDates i take it frequently solo. i buy powder serperatly and love the effects of it. The only real issue I find with it is taste (tastes like ass on its own). The reason I like it so much, aside from the affects it gives, is that its another option aside from caffeine I can leverage to get in the zone. best way I can describe it is that caffeine is is everything, I know what to expect from it and I like it. but I don't always want to rely on caffeine. that's where eria comes into play for me. i can feel it without caffeine, and has more of a feel good mental clarity than caffeine (at least that's what I notice).
gorilla mode was always nicely dosed with both. kanna I can understand letting go of, and the addition of alpha gpc is great. but as someone who really digs eria jarensis( I even pair it with huperzine and alpha gpc) its just kinda sad to see it go
New to Gorilla Mode and just bought my first tub--but is it a bad time to also buy Nitric? Thinking about also buying that for when I cycle off stim pre-workouts. But, will Nitric also be updated at some point soon?
Still don't understand why creatine is included. Taking creatine the day of, let alone, 20-30 minutes before lifting doesn't do anything for *that* session.
Dude, didn’t even know the V2 came out when I was still using the old one and now am buying a pre, any suggestions where you found a Kanna supplement? Also what pre are you getting now?
Found it easier to just take the old formula one scoop twice a day easier and cheaper than trying to get these ingredients separately and consuming caffeine. Can’t wait to try the new formula
I have chronic pain and never noticed improvement with agmatine. What does work really well is high dose fish oil (6 grams actual omega 3) and high dose coq10 (400 mg)…. Ie, things you wouldn’t add to a pre workout. Those work not only for inflammation but also neurological stress (I have neurological pain).
Will there be a new Nitric formula coming? I work out late afternoons before night class and would like something without caffeine but with focus enhancements…. 🙏🏼
I literally just ordered every single ingeredient on its own that must be coincidence. Will also try the N Phenetyl on its own to see if its rly not that big of a deal.
You guys need to get quality under control. I've had at least two tubs come like cement and one had a strange smell/taste to it that was so bad it had to be refunded. Clearly there are issues in the manufacturing stages of the product and seems like moisture getting in is common. You shouldn't have to deal with this for a premium price.
I just ordered blackberry lemonade flavor. Is it just watermelon flavor that’s the “updated formula” or have all flavors received the formula upgrade? Thanks!
Been using Hydro Prime and mixing with 5g of creatine and 5g L citruline with my electrolytes for about a year. Mixes very well and good shelf life. Just ordered 4 tubs of Gorilla Mode Cheers
You're correct! We didn't include any ingredients that directly effect fat loss or appetite suppression, although there is potential to feel some appetite suppressing effects indirectly from a stimulant based pre-workout.
Will we ever get another nootropic formula with Kanna? I love how it helps keep my drive up though the day but haven’t been able to find anything else with it outside of the r OG gorilla mode
A few questions how does this compare to gorilla hi stim? Also when you take this will you still be able to take gorilla mind nootropics non stim and how would this compare to gorilla mode respawn as that is my favorite formula? Huge fan been using these amazing products for years now im just wanting to dial down and purchase effectively for my needs both in gym and mental assistance in the gym and with COD these lobbies are sweaty my dude!!!! Great getting more content on youtube as well i imagine your busy af so i try to catch when you appear on a podcast or on this channel. I dont mean to be long winded but gorilla mode was the og that caused everyone to start making actual effective formulas cant wait to try the new 2.0!!!
Hey Derek, I wanted to ask about why there is a lead and mercury warning label, in the gnc products you have over there. What happened? Are the labs not scanning for them once they leave the warehouse? What happened
This warning is required by California for all products sold in the state. Our products meet the FDA’s requirements for contaminants. California’s warning is more precautionary, and most major brands include it for compliance. Let us know if you have any other questions!
I'm scared about the new formula, the old formula literally calmed my ADHD brain and took away my gym anxiety. I was Lazer focused on my workout and wasn't worried about the people around me. I'm scared they took out the ingredients that did that lol
Gorilla Mode Upgraded Pre-Workout: gorillamind.com/products/gorilla-mode
Will version 2 be able to ship to canada?
@GorillaMind I really hope this is you, Derek, and you can address an account issue. I was banned from buying your products due to "customer service" stating that I committed "returns abuse". I was shipped two orders, six months apart, where nearly half the products sent gave me food-poisoning-like effects with spasms, diarrhea, and body pains. When presented this information both times, they allowed to return the first order, but denied a return of the second order, full refunded, but banned me from ordering ever again.
Now I'm kind of a big fan, and if you check my emails and contacts via the website, you'll see I just about did your job reformulating MODE among being months in advance of other products you put out, even hitting Pumpkin Spice protein (but no Rootbeer Float!). I'm just kidding about all that, although the similarities are spooky (just proves I'm paying attention to the same trends you are haha, feeslgoodman, seeing the meter tick on all the recommendations, even the flavors, colors, the energy drink, protein bars, the herbs, the electrolyte product, the AlphaGPC in MODE (not quite the 1200mg you'v always referenced, and no ALCAR!) and half a dozen other things, in a sea of underdosing conartists, it's a cool thing to see "feedback response" in whatever amount I really had, just seeing an awake and aware formulator show up on the scene is rare, although you have to watch out for the those boys over at Underground Bio Labs, lookin' perty good, too.)
My point is, I have a great deal of respect for your ethos and the quality of formulations and just want to be able to buy Gorilla Mind (while also being ensured of safe quality). And I shouldn't be punished for wanting to return 100% of everything for you to do safety tests on to keep your customer base safe by helping to root out any quality control issues in the pipeline.
So please, please, please, look over my emails, I'm your boy, I'm on your side, GM is my brand! Just let me buy Gorilla Mind at the prices you offer on your website because I can't buy half the stuff I want at Vitamin Shoppe!
And here's the biggest telling thing about my case: I've purchased at least 4 containers of MODE so far from Vitamin Shoppe and has ZERO adverse effects like the ones from those two 2023 orders. Funny, innit? I just want good stuff without being abused and cut off. Help me out, man. Please.
Please!
Personally I like to use a scoop of your collagen protein along with your pre workout 30-40 min along with your hydroprime and a carb source. CRAZY pump. It only bothers me when I see a woman with a big booty walk by... lol...
Great job Derek!
Can we get a vid breakdown of the new multivitamin ?
I hope he does this
I remember him Leo and Steve did a podcast talking about how multi vitamins are a waste of money
@@Supersaiyinican I'm pretty sure they emphasised that multi vits are a waste of money because most companies use really poor forms of X vitamin/ mineral at arbitrary dosages.
Derecks had a multi vit in his personal stack for years he made a couple videos on his supplement stack.
@@Supersaiyinicanbut not derricks 😂
Conveniently enough right? lmaaaooo we will see i guess
@@Flosstradamuss
I wish he still made videos for his own channel. It was incredible entertainment
But he does still make videos... am i wrong?
He doesn’t make videos anymore. He’s sold his soul to corporate greed can’t wait to see a down fall video some years from now
The original formula already had me sharting my pants during each workout. Glad to know they upped the caffeine for the extra stomach churning effect
Nitric users winning
I recently switched to stim after doing non stim for a year. No shitting at all. Then again I shit in the mornings prior to workout
@@I-do-not-read-replies I shit first thing in the morning so I can have a productive day at work.
Iv been going no pre for the last 2 weeks and so far it’s been fine. Hopefully I have your luck when I go back
You might also have been suffering from the agmatine which is known to be rough on the stomach
It's 25mg more... the N phenethyl dimethylamine would have way more of a stimulating effect than 25mg of caffeine.
I bought the very first drop of Gorilla mode, and I've bought absolutely no other preworkouts since, but the removal of N,N-Dimethylphenethylamine Citrate is a crushing blow. I would say at this point, I'm completely dependent on it. I've even switched my AM coffee to one scoop of Gorilla Mode Energy, and the difference I notice with and without this ingredient is HUGE. If I have a plain energy drink, I completely lose the mood elevation and motivation increase. Yes, it is absolutely not advisable to become reliant on a stim as I have, but the removal of this from the blend (and according to GM customer service, its likely removal from the upcoming new GME formula) means I'll either have to buy the compound separately, or stop using Gorilla Mind's products. Tragic to do this in the name of global compliance for a GRAS stimulant that I believe heavily contributes to the "OH WOW" effect that new users get from gorilla mode. RIP to the OG formula.
Maybe the mood elevation came from Kanna because it’s seretonergic.
Same here brother…
Dude, me too. I really wish he still made the og formula. The stim was huge
Ik youre a busy guy these days expanding your supp empire, but can you try and do more of these for your other products or even other things you are currently interested in researching like your blog. I love hearing you talk about things youve researched!
Also im happy to see you finally got the multivitamin cus you replied to me that it was on the list of things to do more than a couple yrs ago now lol.
Really happy you got such success been a supporter since 2019 :) and now marek health is helping me with my thyroid issue when normal dr would not.
Big thanks to gorilla staff too!
They also have a fragrance brand now too. Specifically for men I believe. Well done stuff.
@@tomguglielmo9805 yeah they smell good, i have that stuff too lol. Ive pretty much tried everything theyve released 💀 across all sites
This stuff is no joke. With the new formula i still feel crazy energized and focused eve after a 2 hour workout.
Glad you like it! If you have a minute to leave a review on the new formula, we'd greatly appreciate it!
You need to go international with this Derek.
deadset
Fr. Only thing keeping me from buying Gorilla Mode is resellers here mark it up 3x the original price.
@@CarlosFlores-pl3lb I'd ship you some from the US for 2x then. Lol
@@CarlosFlores-pl3lbI’ll ship it to you for 1.5. HMU
Can you please make a video on the multi vitamin
He will not because the multivitamin is middle of the pack in the market. You can find better multivitamins for better prices.
@@VENOM99099 what are some good ones?
@@VENOM99099 doubt it, name 1
@@VENOM99099bruh name 1
@@VENOM99099 bro I send name me ONE! Go ahead, I’m still waiting
Your dedication to creating the best products in the industry is why we continue to support your business. Gorilla Mode/Nitric has always been my go-to pre workout ever since I found out who was behind the formula. Thank you Derek, and Gorilla Mind!
First time trying gorilla mode so never tried the old one. But the updated one is by far the best pre I’ve ever had
Thanks for the support! We're pumped you like it!
Shit goes hard. Period !
Been lift8ng for 20 years and this is the best product and most growth ive ever had.
Slammed through my plateau!!!!
Need to make more videos breaking down everything Gorilla Mind offers. Incredible company. Just want full explanations of everything that's on there.
It would be great if it was in stores in Canada
Real
I’m lucky I’m on the border so I can just cross and grab
seen it at GNC in toronto eaton centre. try popeyes too
Do they still charge us custom fees?
@@gramz47 yeah last time I ordered but that was awhile ago
Nitric 4 times a week for my evening workouts and Mode for my Saturday AM workout. I do not care what the general consensus is that pre workouts don't have scientifically backed effectiveness I definitely feel a difference from when I was using other pre's like bang, Legion, and a few others.
My muscle soreness recovers significantly quicker, I used to be a 2nd day DOMS sufferer now im typically 100% 48 hours later etc.
I get a great burst of energy once the mode or nitric kicks in.
Very happy with this product and cannot see myself ever switching.
I like the increase in L Tyrosine, L Citruline and Betaine but i cant really call it an upgrade when it takes out the Eria and the Agmatine Sulfate, and also the increase in price doesnt seem to be justified while taking out what might be the most expensive ingredient in the formula while not adding anything that matches its effect(talking aboug Eria jarenesis), and 1g of salt really doesnt do anything that i cant do by myself by grabbing a spoon and pickling my tongue like Derek himself has suggested. I might give it a try but my expectations are low. I like a lot of gorilla mind products but im concerned when i see these kind of changes.
This looks more like a Mode Base plus glycerol than it's own unique product.
There are more changes than outlined in this comment, but I feel as though I summarized them, and adequately addressed what would be common questions about ingredient selection in the video.
The formula is more expensive to make now, the max dose went from 30 > 40 g of ingredients.
Also something to keep in mind, the actual space efficiency of ingredients differs dramatically, so even if you feel like one ingredient was more justifiable to keep than another, it doesn't mean that if you removed a gram of 1 thing, you then gain the exact space you need to fit 1 gram of any other ingredient. Some of the ingredients vary proportionally in how space efficient they are.
Agmatine is still in Nitric, and the removal was a carefully considered and thoughtful process considerate of years of feedback, goals of the formula, literature, etc. It literally couldn't fit, and for what is supposed to be a stacked swiss-army knife pre-workout hitting all vectors (including energy and focus), leaning on Agmatine when we could push other areas harder, it just didn't make the cut.
Also, N-Phenethyl, have you tried it solo? I believe it looks more exotic than it actually behaves in practical application, and truly feel our Nootropic blend hits harder in this formula, but I understand why that would be of concern.
I'll have a more detailed video out that gets way more granular on this stuff to explain how I justified the additions and swaps made.
If you try it and genuinely don't think it's good, show customer service this comment, and we'll refund you.
@@MorePlatesMoreDatescomparing The Base pre workout and this new one… it really does look like the significant add ons are glycerol and salt… which is cheaper to buy separately and add it yourself. Now the pre workout is $60 too… I’m not exactly an expert but I’m curious if this might potentially even be a downgrade
@@LordHeroMc there is 100 grams of Tyrosine in a tub of Mode vs. 45 grams in a tub of Base. There is 80 grams of Betaine Anhydrous in Mode vs. 37.5 grams in Base. 16 grams Alpha-GPC vs. 9 grams. I could go on, (and will in my longer video).
@@MorePlatesMoreDates When are you putting out the extended version on your main channel?
Looking forward to this deep dive Derek ! Thank you brotha man ! 🙏💯
Hate Beta Alanine with all of my heart and soul and your pre workout has been a godsend for years cant wait to try the new formula
I love it so much I add 7grams to his preworkout 😂
It works well tho..
@@Flosstradamuss same love the shit lol. fire ant powder
Beta alanine requires a buildup for it to work. What's the point in feeling the tingle? It doesn't do anything!
@@SuperStructYeah. Also its effect is better endurance, literally does nothing in body building Rep ranges if your fitness/cardiovascular health is where it should be
By far the smoothest pre workout I’ve ever had. 2.0 has different flavor and mouth feel
It's good to see you're making videos
Bought a container yesterday and I've got a bit left of the old formula. Once it comes in I'm going to alternate them for the week. I hope I don't die from the awesome.
Been using GM 1.0 since fall of '20, so I'll be keeping an empty tub for nostalgia's sake. On another note, I bought 2.0 day one and have had maybe a week of experience with it. Fruit punch is absolutely delicious and I absolutely feel the cognitive benefits/energy profile much more - and this is coming from someone that stacks 1-1.5 scoops with 10mgs of adderall. I also have tried a few lifts stacking it with the new intra formula and it is really a killer combo. Thanks for all you do Derek!
Yessir a product breakdown from Derek always slaps
He’s coming out with an even longer one soon
Will the non stim ever be changing? being in Australia i cant get normal pre haha
Just got my tub today and my first time trying gorilla mode and my experience with it was great! Pump is awesome and the focus is fantastic! Oh and No crash amazing job man looking forward to you're other products!💪😁
Amazing! We're pleased to see you like it! If you have time to leave a review on the new formula, we'd greatly appreciate it! 🙏
Yes, make one that's a protein tub, guaranteed people will buy it. You'll be the only one in the industry with it. Just put everything in it, and call it "The Kitchen Sink". We go to you for the max efficacious dose of every ingredient. Put the things you took out back in, and add in every ingredient that increases your performance. WE WANT IT ALL.
Its more this is the limit of it still being a "pre-workout". The previous one already had issues mixing in any reasonable amount of water to be a "quick preworkout". It still needs to be something you can suck down in a minute before a workout.
@@LukeHuggins-c6i fair point, a guy can dream though right 😂
Very happy for your success Derek. Been telling people about the gorilla mode brand for years now
I got the new Gorilla Mode. Double scooped on the first go. Heavy miss. Rename it "Stealth Gorilla Mode". Second time, 1.25 scoops, miss. Mixed in 4000 mg Peak O2 and 6000 mg of Beta Alanine with 1.5 scoop of Gorilla. THAT was the hit I was looking for. For future formulation I would suggest adding something for muscle fatigue recovery. Better focus would be a plus.
I agree with the overuse of bioperene and find that it may be a bit of an issue with stomach distress occasionally.
I literally just got a new can in and saw the scoop was bigger but the servings are the same and hoped to see if you had a video out. And you do! MPMD never disappoints
Just got my new formula today, and I definitely feel at the VERY least that the pump is MUCH stronger, which I honestly did not think was possible. In addition to that, I feel like I was way more focused in the gym, to the point that I was able to drown out the screams of the high school kids in there. Also feeling a sense of general happiness, which may just be because I was excited to receive my Grape Cotton Candy all day today. Great product, I have no complaints thus far.
I love gorilla mode just finish off v1 and v2 the focus is unreal laser focus stacked with nitric good god the pumps!!!!
Thank you for your order! We're stoked that you like it! Nitric + Mode is an awesome stack.
Dialed up and dialed in ! Full of blood, focus and hydration components to prolong stamina.
Whens the lock an load breakdown?
Can we get some more flavors of high stim? My insides are all blue at this point
Beat previous deadlift PR by 25lbs off of one scoop having me locked in like crazy. Great job Derek💪🏾
290lbs x1 >>315lbs x1 @ 190lbs BW
One scoop felt incredible for me. However after a few days of use I noticed the scooper is 27 grams as opposed to the 19.9 grams stated on the label. Am I taking in more than what is printed on the label per scoop?
Glad to hear you liked the product!
In regards to scoop weights, we can't guarantee the state of the powder (i.e. powder density, which impacts volume/weight in a given scoop) at all times in different moistures/temperatures and therefore the scoop weight isn't always completely consistent across conditions. Also, there are differences in serving weights between flavors (i.e. a 1 scoop serving between two flavors will often have a different net weight), which is why it's important to measure your scoop against the serving weight on the label for 100% accuracy. In addition, our quality control team always accesses scoop sizes to be well within the range of +/- 10% of the declared weight, which is an industry standard.
anyway we can get your updated supplement list? dosages and brands
As always Derek, your transparency and insight is much appreciated.
I’ve been loving respawn since it came out. I didn’t take the original Gorilla mode, but I just started the new formula and it is awesome. I used to stack the nitric with respond and now I don’t need to.
Glad you like the products! We appreciate your support.
Got stocked up on OG. Gonna see how they compare. OG is already very effective, and even at 1 scoop its fantastic. Can’t wait to try
Which do you like better?
I didn’t even know you had the new prework out since I have the old one, and am planning on buying the new one, although I am quite disappointed in the removal of ingredients like Kanna and Dimethylphenethylamine. Any clue where to supplement with these?
First, love the pre and the drinks. Keep it up🔥
Appreciate the support!
when you said "absurdity territory" speaking on container size, it gave me flashback of og N.O. explode from back in the day. Anyway, love the content dude. Appreciate the panel breakdown.
When is the full breakdown coming out? At the end of the video it was mentioned that it should be out within a few days, but it has been four weeks now and still nothing??? Unless I’m looking in the wrong place. Thanks!
You’re the best in the supplement industry Derick, thank you from everybody who has a higher IQ than a fly.
If there was shipping to Canada for cheaper than 50USD Id be coppin' a ton of supps😭
So does that mean that the gorilla mode high stim formula is not coming back in stock? It's a shame because out of all the gorilla mind stim/nootropic products, that was the hardest hitting one. On that stuff I felt like I was freakin levitating 45 min into the workout lol
I completely agree. I harassed customer service for a minute when it was out of stock, then they finally told me it was discontinued after the link disappeared. Then they said to be on the lookout for new formulas. That was before this release. I really miss the Signature series.
Yeah that one was a hitter for sure, way better than the original gorilla mode formula and honestly you only need 1 scoop with that to have an amazing workout
How does including the pink himalayan salt help?
So excited for this, cant wait to get me a couple tubs
Why did you decide to use regular L Tyrosine over N-acetyl L-tyrosine?
We chose to use regular L-Tyrosine over N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine because L-Tyrosine is more directly bioavailable, ensuring efficient and predictable increases in tyrosine levels without the need for metabolic conversion. However, in the case of energy drinks, we use N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine because it is more water-soluble and can be suspended in a liquid unlike L-Tyrosine.
@@GorillaMind hey thanks for the response! I had no idea. Btw just tried the energy drink today and it’s 🔥
I am so impressed, really. Derek is a bro who made what he wanted to use himself, brings a tear of happiness to my eye to see what Gorilla Mind has become. Now I'm buying the best multivitamin and the best preworkout on the market from him every month...can't wait to try it without kanna now, that stuff really triggered my gag reflex.
Will your products ever come to Canada? Please I’m begging😔🙏
I know you said you’re bringing mode up to Nitric’s level. Are you going to readdress Nitric as well? Or is that pretty much where you want it? I prefer Nitric o er Mode because I usually work out in the afternoon and Nitric doesn’t keep me up all night. Love your products and how open and clear you are with the recipes and why you put in what you do.
So what will happen to the old formula??
Now just sneak a little DMAA in it and you'll have a hitter...😊
Eria and Dmha should be in there.
I want Gorilla Mode Energy back with a new formula too. I've always loved the concept of energy drinks in powdered form.
Less caffeine but with more nootropics would be ideal. Looking to use it for study sessions.
We'd highly recommend something like a half serving of Respawn for you, which would contain a heavy dose of nootropics and a moderate amount of caffeine that is likely to enhance your study sessions.
I am 7 months late to this video, and I just ordered one tub. I am very excited to try it out.
Love the ingredient profile, especially the Citrulline and Alpha GPC dosage.
Just a question though, wouldn't it be more beneficial to include Creatine HCL instead of Monohydrate for better absorption?
I will combine this with FSU Serum - GlycoClear (Liquid Glycerol at 99.7% purity) 20 Grams, to get the craziest pumps I can get.
Also, I've noticed that with pre-workout supplements that doesn't contain B-vitamins you'll get a hard crash at the end, which I found doesn't happen at the same impact when they are included, which is only a big plus in my book. I am not a professional in this area, so it could just be me.
Love gorilla mode been using the pre and non stim pre for the longest I always switch off between 3 companies and this is one of them great products 💯
My pre workout thus far has been Cuban coffee 😂 just ordered Blackberry Lemonade and I’m excited to throw some weights around!
Thanks for your order! Make sure to let us know what you think 🦍
Hey Dereck what should I be take to gain muscle as well as lose fat ?
Will we get this in Australia again?
Excited to give it a try!!
WILL YOU UPDATE THE NITRIC?
I’ll buy it once the full breakdown comes out. When will it ?
Derek will nitric also be getting a revamp so I can cut the ffeine and still get my pump :(
Great stuff I just happen to need some pre-workout so I bought your 3 tub value. Cannot wait :)
I actually liked the bitter after taste. Im not looking for something that tastes good; i want to chug an affective suppliment. I hope the new formula is what you say it is, because i already got every thing i could ask for out of the original. Change makes me nervous because i dont believe the old formula was broken.
In the past all the suppliments i loved always got more expensive and less affective
put the n-phenethyl dimethylamine citrate back in
yeah, preferred lower caffeine with eria
Have you tried it solo? I believe it looks more exotic than it actually behaves in practical application, and truly feel our Nootropic blend hits harder in this formula, but I understand why that would be of concern.
This formula is more potent, and achieves more far reaching global compliance, was a win win in our eyes.
If you try it and genuinely don't think it's good, show customer service this comment, and we'll refund you.
@@MorePlatesMoreDates i take it frequently solo. i buy powder serperatly and love the effects of it. The only real issue I find with it is taste (tastes like ass on its own). The reason I like it so much, aside from the affects it gives, is that its another option aside from caffeine I can leverage to get in the zone.
best way I can describe it is that caffeine is is everything, I know what to expect from it and I like it. but I don't always want to rely on caffeine. that's where eria comes into play for me. i can feel it without caffeine, and has more of a feel good mental clarity than caffeine (at least that's what I notice).
gorilla mode was always nicely dosed with both. kanna I can understand letting go of, and the addition of alpha gpc is great. but as someone who really digs eria jarensis( I even pair it with huperzine and alpha gpc) its just kinda sad to see it go
@@MorePlatesMoreDates do you plan to do something similiar with gorilla mode energy?
New to Gorilla Mode and just bought my first tub--but is it a bad time to also buy Nitric? Thinking about also buying that for when I cycle off stim pre-workouts. But, will Nitric also be updated at some point soon?
There is no shipping to Romania will there be one?
Still don't understand why creatine is included. Taking creatine the day of, let alone, 20-30 minutes before lifting doesn't do anything for *that* session.
Any chance you'll sell this in the UK? It's quite expensive to ship from the United States
Im sure you have considered it but wouldnt adding lions mane work well ?
Kanna was the only reason i was buying it lol. GG.
Dude, didn’t even know the V2 came out when I was still using the old one and now am buying a pre, any suggestions where you found a Kanna supplement? Also what pre are you getting now?
@@hap1678 hey bro, im using banana and honey, over pres
Found it easier to just take the old formula one scoop twice a day easier and cheaper than trying to get these ingredients separately and consuming caffeine. Can’t wait to try the new formula
Looking forward to hearing your feedback on the upgraded formula!
I have chronic pain and never noticed improvement with agmatine. What does work really well is high dose fish oil (6 grams actual omega 3) and high dose coq10 (400 mg)…. Ie, things you wouldn’t add to a pre workout. Those work not only for inflammation but also neurological stress (I have neurological pain).
Would you ever do a flavourless preworkout?
Will there be a new Nitric formula coming? I work out late afternoons before night class and would like something without caffeine but with focus enhancements…. 🙏🏼
I literally just ordered every single ingeredient on its own that must be coincidence. Will also try the N Phenetyl on its own to see if its rly not that big of a deal.
Update on the n phen on its own?
You guys need to get quality under control. I've had at least two tubs come like cement and one had a strange smell/taste to it that was so bad it had to be refunded. Clearly there are issues in the manufacturing stages of the product and seems like moisture getting in is common. You shouldn't have to deal with this for a premium price.
Why can’t we get this into Australia? Used to be able to get the old one through Amazon but now nothing ?
I just ordered blackberry lemonade flavor. Is it just watermelon flavor that’s the “updated formula” or have all flavors received the formula upgrade? Thanks!
The only flavors that will be of the previous formula will say, "Flavor name (Old Formula)". The rest are the updated formula!
Been using Hydro Prime and mixing with 5g of creatine and 5g L citruline with my electrolytes for about a year.
Mixes very well and good shelf life. Just ordered 4 tubs of Gorilla Mode
Cheers
no fat burners or appetite suppressants in it right?
You're correct! We didn't include any ingredients that directly effect fat loss or appetite suppression, although there is potential to feel some appetite suppressing effects indirectly from a stimulant based pre-workout.
Running out of my current tub at the perfect time! Mine's already on the way
What about gorilla mode energy? Any updates or restocking coming to that product. I'm an avid crossfitter, and love that product.
It’s In stock rn in mojo mojito
They're probably gonna discontinue that one too if I had to guess
Love your stuff! Keep it up!
I love the OG gorilla mode when I'm lifting. But it makes me crash hard after the gym.
Will you be updating the other pre- workout products as well?
*bought 4 extra tubs of gorilla mode on black friday* … lowers head.
Yall think he will drop that 2 hour breakdown?
What will happen with Gorilla Mode Energy?
Will we ever get another nootropic formula with Kanna? I love how it helps keep my drive up though the day but haven’t been able to find anything else with it outside of the r OG gorilla mode
Will you be releasing your line of energy drinks in the UK ?
A few questions how does this compare to gorilla hi stim? Also when you take this will you still be able to take gorilla mind nootropics non stim and how would this compare to gorilla mode respawn as that is my favorite formula? Huge fan been using these amazing products for years now im just wanting to dial down and purchase effectively for my needs both in gym and mental assistance in the gym and with COD these lobbies are sweaty my dude!!!! Great getting more content on youtube as well i imagine your busy af so i try to catch when you appear on a podcast or on this channel. I dont mean to be long winded but gorilla mode was the og that caused everyone to start making actual effective formulas cant wait to try the new 2.0!!!
Hey Derek, I wanted to ask about why there is a lead and mercury warning label, in the gnc products you have over there. What happened? Are the labs not scanning for them once they leave the warehouse? What happened
This warning is required by California for all products sold in the state. Our products meet the FDA’s requirements for contaminants. California’s warning is more precautionary, and most major brands include it for compliance. Let us know if you have any other questions!
I'm scared about the new formula, the old formula literally calmed my ADHD brain and took away my gym anxiety. I was Lazer focused on my workout and wasn't worried about the people around me. I'm scared they took out the ingredients that did that lol
crazy good derek, shit feels amazing
Looking lean my man.