Slavic Languages - Similarities and Differences
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Timelines:
1:00 We create our own language worlds.
1:43 Slavic languages.
3:05 Learn Russian first.
3:47 How I went about Ukrainian.
4:22 Czech and Russian comparison.
5:51 Historical background of the Slavic language division.
8:24 Slavic language order I would follow.
9:11 Learning sources for Slavic languages.
10:25 Similarities between Slavic people.
11:00 Different language families I relate to.
Transcript: Hi there, Steve Kaufmann. I decided to move outside for this video. I can’t see very well here squinting with the sun in my eyes. Hopefully, this works out; I’ll have a look later on.
Slavic Languages -- My experience in learning to various degrees of fluency four different Slavic languages. I’m going to talk a little bit longer than my recent three-four minutes videos, so those who aren’t interested or don’t like the longer videos can turn off the video right now. One thing I should say, too, to me these videos are a form of sitting around a coffee table and talking, so I often don’t know what I’m going to say when I start out. I really wish that some of the people who are part of my RUclips community lived nearby so that we could get together regularly and chat about different things, but of course we can’t.
One of the great things about learning languages is that it’s a way of discovering the world. Of course, we create our own language worlds and we do that by finding things of interest, at least I do, whether it be in libraries on the internet or wherever it might be. Through that we create our own language world and we discover things about the world. When I wrote my book on language learning, I had this reference to Zhuangzi and Taoist philosophy and I think it was Laozi that said we can discover the whole world by looking outside our window or something. I mean we have this tremendous ability to learn about so many things today without going very far.
Slavic Languages -- If we look at a map of the world we see this area north of the Black Sea, this vast area of steppe land where apparently the Proto-Slavic people originated from. Today, we have a variety of of Slavic languages and they differ from each other because of the different sort of historical influences that effected the development of these languages.
Another thing that I firmly believe is that culture or language is not in any way associated with our genes or DNA so that language doesn’t equal some kind of ethnic division necessarily. Often it matches, but it doesn’t have to match. So we have what they normally talk about as the eastern Slavic languages, which is Russian, Belarusian and Ukrainian, the western Slavic languages, which is Polish, Czech, Slovakian, and then the southern Slavic languages, which is the languages of the former Yugoslavia, Serbo-Croat, Slovenian, Bulgarian and so forth.
My experience has been that I studied Russian first and I would recommend that because Slavic language speakers, that’s a large group of people. Geographically, it covers obviously most of Russia and it’s not just the sort of ethnic Russians who are Russian speakers. Russian is sort of a lingua franca in Central Asia and other countries of the former tsarist empire the Soviet Union. So it covers all of that right into Eastern Europe.
So I started learning Russian because that was the biggest one and where I had exposure to Russian literature as a teenager and wanted to read those books in the original language. Then with the development of the whole Ukrainian crisis, I started watching Ukrainian television and couldn’t understand what the Ukrainians were saying only what the Russians were saying. Yet, it sounded so similar I felt as if I should understand it and there were words there that were similar, but I just didn’t quite get the gist of what they were saying.
This gets back, too, to this idea that you can’t just have a few words. Some people say if you have a thousand words, 70% of any context, but in fact that is never true because very often the key words are just those words that you don’t understand, so I started learning Ukrainian. I should step back. I did Czech before Ukrainian and the reason for that was my parents were born in what became Czechoslovakia. They were born in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, so I always wanted to learn that language. I never understood any of it and I figured now with Russian it would be easier. Well, it’s easier, but the grammar of those Slavic languages that I have studied is remarkably similar.
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I would like to mention that there aren't any exact borders between slavic languages. One slavic languages slowly changes to another slavic language. If you go from the west of the Czech Republic to Moscow, you will not find on your path any border between Czech and Slovak, Slovak and Ukrainian or Ukrainian and Russian. The official Slavic languages are quite relative in their areas of extension. For example, people living near the Czech-Slovak border, regardless if they are Slovaks living on the Slovak side of the border, or they are Czechs living on the Czech side of the border, they both speak one language - such a dialect which is a transition between Czech and Slovak, but in the Czech Republic the dialect is considered a dialect of Czech language, and in Slovakia the dialect is considered a dialect of Slovak language. They speak one dialect with no differences between the Czech side and Slovak side of the border, which is sometimes called Czech, sometimes called Slovak. I mean, if we go from Western Bohemia(West of the Czech Republic) to the East, we will see that the language is very slowly changing from one to another one. First, Bohemian dialect of Czech is slowly changing to Hanakian-Moravian dialect, which is slowly changing to Moravian-Slovakian and Wallachian dialects, which are changing to Slovak. Slovak in Eastern Slovakia is slowly changing to Rusyn and Rusyn is changing to Ukrainian. Ukrainian is changing to Russian through Surzhyk. In fact, it looks like one language(Slavic) with many very diverse dialects(Czech, Slovak, Ukrainian...). I must mention, that this doesn't absolutety fit in 2 cases. 1) the case of Northern(Western, Eastern) and Southern Slavic languages, where the exact language borders really exist, because there's a German-Hungarian-Romanian corridor between them which last 1000 years was and still is isolating them from each other. 2) The another place where we can't find the slow transition is the most of Polish-Czech border, because Poles moved the the nowadays western half of Poland after WW2.
You will definitely recognize Polish-Ukrainian border... Maybe because of all that deportations and "repatriations" and so on between Poland's and Soviet goverment.
Shuhister Not really. There are lots of Poles living in both Belarus and Ukraine nowadays. Im not really sure how they categorise themselves ethnicly to be honest but there are lots of Ukrainians who speak Polish too near the border simply because before wwii it was an official language and its sometimes still active in families with mixed marriage traditions. So no - you don't really feel the border gap. I had no problem whatsoever trying to communicate in Polish as far in Ukraine as in Lviv/Lwów. I haven't been to Belarus yet so I have no idea how it looks out there but I heard the situation is very similiar there.
This is not about understanding. This is about borders and language continium that doesn't exist between Ukraine and Poland as it is (like author of this post say) between Czech and Slovak, Slovak and Ukrainian.... I believe language continium is present between Ukrainian and Belorussian, Ukrainian and Russian.... But no such thing between Ukrainian and Poland.
Well Polish and Ukrainian are much more similiar than Slovak and Ukrainian. Probably like at least25-40% of vocabulary in Ukrainian comes from Polish so not at all. Both Belorussian and Ukrainian are as similiar to Russian as they are to Polish.
25-40%? Lol.... Is this another "big brother" complex as russians have? Yes Polish had some impact to Ukrainian, but Slovak language is still closer related. Most of words (totally less than 25%...) in Ukrainian that comes from Polish are actually of German origin. Most other words are common for all slavs.
Hi again ! Along with Bulgarian I also learn some Serbian and Russian. Serbian syntax is very close to Bulgarian but it has declensions whereas Bulgaria has none of them. But as vocabulary is concerned, I would say that Bulgarian is very close to Russian vocabulary but not so close to Serbian. The interesting thing I found out in Belgrade is that when I talked to them in Bulgarian they don't understand very well but when I was in Bulgaria and trying to communicate in Serbian people understand pretty well !
Russian speakers don't understand very well Bulgarian and even less Serbian because pronounciation is very different and basic vocabulary is different.
I would really recommend you Steve to visit Serbia ! It's a very nice country with very friendly and natural people who will make you feel at home ! Plus, the pace of life is like 1000 times slower ! That being said, Bulgaria is my favourite country ! People are easy going and the RILA SEVEN LAKES are awesome if you like hiking and wild nature in the mountain !
Thanks a lot for your time and your excellent videos ! Sorry for long comments but I really love those southern slavic cultures and languages ! =)
+loki2504 You know, Felix, this may just be one of the places I visit (and learn the language of) in the next little while. Thanks for dropping by.
You're welcome Steve ! If you decide to go to Serbia, Kalemegdan Fortress and the city of Novi Sad are amazing ! If you decide to head to Bulgaria I can recommend you: Belogradchik rock formations, the 7 lakes of Rila, Perperikon, the city of Plovdiv (probably one of the oldest in all Europe) and of course the little city of Burgas (Black Sea). I hope you'll discover those interesting countries where people are very laid-back and friendly !
+loki2504 I agree with you, Bulgaria and Serbia are very nice countries with friendly people
+loki2504 I love Serbian language (all the Yugoslav forms of "nas jezik", I call it jugoslovenski) . Ja ucim sprski jezik sada .
+Viking I met VERY VERY nice people in both countries ! (You can watch some of my videos on my channel). They are so natural and easy going ! I love the balkanic vibe !!!
I like the longer ramble. More interesting information.
+Mark O'Dochartaigh I think the rambles of about 10 minutes or so are pretty good.
Slav is not an ethnic group because DNA analysis shows the slavic countries are made up of many DNA’s and different ancestors like Vikings and Sarmations in Russia, scythians, Bulgars from the Volga river in the east, thracians Illyrians and ancient Macedonians in the Balkans and many other ancient people.
Slav began as a religious reference. The Catholics of the west called the slavic orthodox people in the east “slavs”.
The slavic languages were spoken for well over 2000 years in the Balkans;
Ancient Macedonian, thracian, phrygian Illyrian language:
Thracian: SERDE GORD, AS BRUZA DADON ZELKIA ANA DZVERI OSTA.
Modern Macedonian: SRED GRAD, JAS BRZO DADOV ZELKA NA DZVER USTA.
(Translation: At the centre of the city, I quickly gave cabbage to the beast mouth.)
Or here’s another example of the remaining Phrygian glossary (Brygians/Phrygians, another Macedonic tribe; close Thracian neighbours), and the following hypothetical sentences constructed entirely from known Phrygian words, shows again that it’s one and same with modern Slavic languages and modern Macedonian:
Phrygian: VONOK, SIT SI? SEST TU IN SUR TO SOK.
Modern Macedonian: VNUK, SIT SI? SEDI TUKA I SRKAJ TOJ SOK.
(Translation: Nephew, are you satiated? Sit here and sip that juice.)
They were probably influenced by the Macedonian missionary’s who went throughout Europe in the 10th century converting people to the slavic orthodox religion.
That’s why President Putin congratulated the Macedonian President and said;
“Macedonia is the cradle of slavic literature”
Because he knows that Russia got its religion and alphabet from Macedonians in the 10th century.
@@WatchmanofMKDN Is your last sentence really factual? Wow!
Re3iRtH 🤣🤣 yes
“25 May 2017 · Vladimir Putin’s claim, made at a meeting with the Macedonian President, that the Slavic alphabet came to Russia from Macedonia, has not gone down well in Bulgaria. А number of Bulgarian ministers and diplomats have condemned Russian President Vladimir Putin for telling his ...”
“... beyond repute. Default Putin: Macedonia is a cradle of all Slavic literature ... all know came to us from Macedonia. I would like to begin with congratulating you on this award, said Putin in his remarks to Macedonian president Gjorgje Ivanov.”
Re3iRtH old Church Slavonic is the language that was used to spread the slavic orthodox religion. It was spread by 3500 Macedonian missionary’s and its closest to today’s Macedonian language.
I love slavic languages! they're my favourite language group. I speak four of them - Bosnian, Russian, Polish and Czech!
Elizabeth Jensen How long did it take you to learn Russian
Hmm about 3 years
Elizabeth Jensen Yeah I was thinking something around that
Is Bosnian seriously a language? (just asking out of pure curiosity since I would "groupe" it along with Serbian and Croatian)
it is
I love when someone gives pisitive attention to us, slavs. Greetings from Slovakia :)
Ahoj Steve, díky za inspirující a vysvětlující video ohledně našich jazyků a blízkých národů. Obdivuji každého, kdo se do češtiny vrhne. Je to těžký jazyk, ale velice bohatý na vyjádření myšlenek, emocí, pocitů... Znám jednoho Rumuna, který četl asi 10x knihu Dobrý voják Švejk (možná trošku náhled do naší české povahy), žije již několik let zde a jeho schopnost přirozeně komunikovat je fenomenální, skutečně jako rodilý Čech.Sám teď makám na němčině, něco přes 1 rok - vaší metodou... a skutečně to funguje. Jediná věc, která mě u tohoto jazyka fascinuje je pořádek slov ve větě. Jak mohou neustále dávat slovesa na konec věty? Jak to přemýšlejí? Je toto běžné i v jiných jazycích? Posupně si na to zvykám, ale připadá mi to tak nepřirozené. Možné téma k dalšímu zajímavému videu...Díky a zdravím z České republiky
Hi Steve ! I really enjoyed this long video ! As far as I'm concerned I seriously learnt one slavic language which stands out for various reasons. I learnt Bulgarian.
Bulgarian is a "special" slavic language because:
1) it doesn't have any declension ! It's the only slavic language along with Macedonian that do not need declensions because they use prepositions
2) it has a definite article that you put at the end of the word ,for exemple in "метрото" the "TO" at the end means "the" and the whole word means "the metro" but it's upside down: "metroTHE" in one word
3) it borrowed a few words from Greek and lots from Turkish:
"Come here" is "Ела тука" I don't think it would be "Ela" in any other slavic language (it is a Greek word) and they use "ама" (= but) or "чорапи" (socks => which is a Turkish word). As far as Turkish word are concerned, sometimes it's to describe a reality that is Turkish but also widely present in Bulgaria like the yoghurt drink "Aйран". I think this beverage is not part of any western or eastern slavic culture.
Ama is not widely used.It's "Но"=but.
Bulgarian is beautiful =)
Did you consider that some words (like айран) could be bulgarian adopted in turkish language. This is hypothesis оf course. i think so because Bulgaria was couple of centuries before Turkey (Ottoman empire) on Balkans and as we know yogurt is uniquely for Bulgaria. Pardon my english!
@@beadsman13 айран cannot be an original Slavic word, since originally no Slavic word could start on А-. (btw no original Slavic word has sound Ф).
@@JLoR626 Old Church Slavonic is not the original Slavic language. It is a somewhat artificial language created for leturgical purpose, it was never meant to be spoken (and never was, there were no attested L1 Old Church Slavonic speakers ever), it was designed to be understandable by Southern Slavs (there were already a lot of dialects around) and to address all the needs of church (mimic orthodox Greeek terminology). The "original" slavic language is called Proto-Slavic or Proto-Balto-Slavic by linguists.
Dear Steve, that was a very good summary of the differences between those four Slavic languages. Your point that Slavic language does not connote an ethnic group is spot on. Many Russian native speakers are not Russians just as we native English speakers are not always English. I was disappointed to join a pan Slavic group on FB to discover that it was a cover for Russian and Serb domination. It was an unpleasant experience.
Thanks for the video Steve this was interesting information
Hello Steve, thanks for the video. It was interesting to hear your thoughts about learning Slavic languages. I was actually born and raised in western Ukraine so obviously I speak Ukrainian. As for the other 3 languages you mentioned - I'm fluent in Russian, I am also OK with Polish (it would be a shame if I'd not, because my grandfather was polish), tho I still polish my writing skills in Polish =P
As for Czech - didn't grab it yet (only some words and phrases) but I was in Prague once and it seams to me that most of people there do understand Polish. It's almost like with Russian language in Ukraine.
I agree that Russian is a good start in Slavic languages because of variety of sources and language carriers. But there is a funny fact - many of my friends who don't speak Ukrainian (only Russian) can't manage to understand the half I say. And if you try the same thing with friends from Poland - both can understand each other even if they can't speak the each other language :) So, as You said, the vocabulary problem is real even if the grammar is close. And there are always regional dialects.
I am also from western Ukraine. I personally think Ukrainian is a better slavic langauge option because it really is the key between west and east. Ukrainian is both similar with russian and also similar between Polish, Slovak which is a different slavic language class. i reckon if you begin with Ukrainian you'll have an easier time learning polish or russian.
@@antonov225flier I think you would probably save time by just doing Russian and Polish first(one at a time), getting the two most different ones, east and west, the two ends of the spectrum, and then everything in the middle would be no problem.If you start with the middle one, Ukranian, I think it would definitely help a lot with Russian and Polish, but I think you would still have to do some significant study for each. It sounds like if you already learned Polish and Russian, you might be able to understand Ukranian without studying. Or there might be so little difference that you could pick up what you don't know from context, and just learn it through exposure, with no studying. That's just my guess though, I'm not fluent in either, but that's the strategy I'm going to use. I'm going all out with Russian right now, and will then try to pick up Polish later. I would be very interested to hear a native speakers thoughts on this.
@@pooperscoop54321 I'm a 'heritage speaker' of Polish who started Russian in HS & minored in it in college. The Polish background def helped with the general grammar system & vocabulary, esp recognising roots. However, Russian seemed to use those commonalities quite differently. As a result I'd often hear/read something in Russian, understand the individual chunks of information, but be unable to put them together to make sense.
I've never studied Ukrainian but from my exposure I'd say there's more lexical & grammatical commonality with Polish than with Russian.
8:59 Not true. A LOT of the endings are similar between Slavic languages
Hi Steve, it was interesting to hear your opinion.
As a native Russian speaker with some Ukranian exposure I would agree that Russian lexically differs from all the other Slavic languages (when compared with say Ukranian). But I would claim that any Slavic language is not a real foreign language if you are a native speaker of any other Slavic language, does not really matter which. Slavic languages are much more close to each other than e.g. German and English.
This is interesting, especially while being Polish speaking Russian and Ukrainian :)
Wow I've been looking for a video like this!
Very interesting Steve! Thanks for this, really enjoyed watching and feel spurred on to study Russian!
Zdravo, Steve!
Могу добавить, что болгарский язык запасом слов довольно близок к русскому (это мой родной язык, если что). И для меня он интересен, пожалуй, больше остальных славянских. Что Вы думаете о том, чтобы позже начать учить его?
[I could add that Bulgarian is pretty close to Russian (my native one) in terms of vocabulary. And for me it is, perhaps, more interesting than other Slavic languages. What do you think about learning it later?]
+Amir Swr Bulgarian is, in fact, pretty close to Russian in terms of vocabulary. :) For a long time we called the Russians our ''older brother'' so we're pretty close haha! The grammar, though, is quite different.
+Misha Dimitrov At least two things I noticed about Bulgarian compared with Russian: (1) Bulgarian does have the Definite Article which I understand is suffixed to a noun, much like Scandinavian languages (Danish, Swedish and Norwegian); and (2) Bulgarian seems to be less complicated regarding the use of the different cases, i.e., Nouns do not seem to change as much in form as they do in Russian, correct? In fact, I have read that if an English speaker wishes to learn a Slavic language, Bulgarian may be the one to learn in terms of not being overwhelmed by the case system. By the way Misha - can a Bulgarian who has not studied Russian still understand a news broadcast, for example, in Russian?
+Stephen Poole
1) Yep, Bulgarian does have the definite article!
2) Bulgarian practically doesn't have cases! it used to have them in the past but now we have some words left which we use in a certain case... it's weird lol! But then another difference is that in Bulgarian we have a lot of grammatical tenses compared to russian.. We have like 5 past tenses? lol
for the last question.. It really depends! vocabulary wise the two languages are very similar but the grammar is quite different. so if you have like a base in Russian you should be able to understand a good amount of it :) I hope this helps!
Yes, very much so, and thanks for the quick reply. This may sound weird, but I became interested in learning Bulgarian after watching a BBC documentary (with Bulgarian subtitles) about the assassination of Georgi Markov in London.
+Stephen Poole doesn't sound weird at all! haha! If you need any help I'd be more than pleased to help you! ^^
Love those longer videos. It's always interesting to hear your thoughts.
Do you see any worth in learning languages of radically different language families? I've always been fascinated with Algonquin and Uto-Aztecan languages, but I can never commit to learning them because I know they're not going to be of any value to me.
*Another fact, which is not fully known to the general public, the dominant position of the Slovak language to the other Slavic nations. In this context, we mention the work of American linguist and scientist prof. Price's, which considered the Slovak language as " the key to all Slavic language" and for the media to an understanding with other Slavs. (John D. Price, The Key to all Slavonic languages, SHF, Columbia University, New York, Dec. 15, 1943, 9 p.). Professor J. Price this idea expressed at the Congress of Slavists in Warsaw. The Polish delegation came out with a proposal that was approved by the definition of the first Slavic language in which the decisive point is Slovak. In addition to the Czech delegation, everyone voted for the Polish proposal: "the Slovak language is the oldest and according to him is then created other Slavic languages" (Canadian Slovak, Slovak, the oldest Slavic language, Toronto, March 23, 1989).
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Amazing video Steve!!! Please do more language families videos like this one, look fwd to germanic, romance and asian!!!
Que increible tu dominio sobre los idiomas. Me encantaría que grabaras más videos en español, todos me parecen geniales. Besos de México.
First language to learn would be Croatian - especially as its written in Latin script. It gives you a good foundation on which to build. Learn Croatian - you will also be conversant with Serbs. As for Russian - remember it was modernised during the time of Czar Petar the Great. You will find if you can find a speaker of "Ancient" Russian they will be able to understand a Croatian/Serbian much better. Personally i love the sounds of the Slavic languages.
Hahaha but every time we converse we end out arguing over whose language it is :) You don't have to be Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian or even Montenegrin - just be a man. Love your country and be good to your neighbours.
for me, for example, it is very easy right now learn Deutdche Sprache after four years of learning of English language, they are very simular to each other.
A little bit only
English is actually a German Dialect. It came to the British Isles from from German Speakers.
I like better the longer videos! Thanks!
Great video, Steve!
Yeah - For the longer ramble! One has time to get more important information, presented in a "chat" format. The only thing missing is a chair and coffee table!!!
Yes, it's true that languages and ethnic groups aren't necessarily linked, e.g. Indians who speak English and Central Asians who speak Russian, but the fact of the matter is that the Slavic languages largely do split up by ethnic and genetic lines. If this weren't the case, then ancestry DNA tests wouldn't be able to tell the difference between, say, Ukrainian and Polish genes.
That said, I find the rest of your video interesting. I know Polish and am currently learning Russian, and am hoping to branch out to either Ukrainian or Bulgarian in the future. Thanks for the info.
Many polyglots on youtube do not post anymore. Good to see that you keep making videos. Thank you.
am I the only one who noticed the blind go down at 1:56 XD
I don't see anything. It must be your computer. Are you using windows?
+Georgina Stevens I realized it too.
+Georgina Stevens I Saw the shade go down
+Mark O'Dochartaigh The shade came down its real
+Georgina Stevens Yes.
The Russian language is so different because it's isn't true-East Slavic, but half-South.
The Ukrainian and Belarus languages weren't such influenced by the Сhurch (Bulgarian) language.
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Slav is not an ethnic group because DNA analysis shows the slavic countries are made up of many DNA’s and different ancestors like Vikings and Sarmations in Russia, scythians, Bulgars from the Volga river in the east, thracians Illyrians and ancient Macedonians in the Balkans and many other ancient people.
Slav began as a religious reference. The Catholics of the west called the slavic orthodox people in the east “slavs”.
The slavic languages were spoken for well over 2000 years in the Balkans;
Ancient Macedonian, thracian, phrygian Illyrian language:
Thracian: SERDE GORD, AS BRUZA DADON ZELKIA ANA DZVERI OSTA.
Modern Macedonian: SRED GRAD, JAS BRZO DADOV ZELKA NA DZVER USTA.
(Translation: At the centre of the city, I quickly gave cabbage to the beast mouth.)
Or here’s another example of the remaining Phrygian glossary (Brygians/Phrygians, another Macedonic tribe; close Thracian neighbours), and the following hypothetical sentences constructed entirely from known Phrygian words, shows again that it’s one and same with modern Slavic languages and modern Macedonian:
Phrygian: VONOK, SIT SI? SEST TU IN SUR TO SOK.
Modern Macedonian: VNUK, SIT SI? SEDI TUKA I SRKAJ TOJ SOK.
(Translation: Nephew, are you satiated? Sit here and sip that juice.)
They were probably influenced by the Macedonian missionary’s who went throughout Europe in the 10th century converting people to the slavic orthodox religion.
That’s why President Putin congratulated the Macedonian President and said;
“Macedonia is the cradle of slavic literature”
Because he knows that Russia got its religion and alphabet from Macedonians in the 10th century.
@@WatchmanofMKDN You would have quoted Hitler.
Ты б еще Гитлера процитировал.
владимир довженко dont forget it was Bulgaria who sided with hitler.
@@WatchmanofMKDN Думаете сталин был лучше гитлера?
Bulgarians tell the truth. In 1926 they took Goce Delcevs bones to Bulgaria. After world war II they returned them and acknowledged he was a Macedonian, and now they claim him again 😂😂. Bulgarians telling the truth.
This guy knows his stuff📚👍
I would love to hear your opinion on Slovenian (or Slovene) language, should you ever decide to check it out!
+Mclawliet1 One day perhaps.
+Steve Kaufmann - lingosteve would be nice
I think he already knows too much) I can not imagine how he can know so many languages
I'm traveling to Serbia in a couple of months. I'll only be there for a couple of weeks. Do you have any recommendations for what is important to know for such a short time?
I'm glad that you want to learn south Slavic languages! If you ever need any help for learning Serbian (or Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin) feel free to contact me. I'll help you as much as I can. We on south have a little bit different approach on writing, it's much more strict. One letter can be pronounced only in one way, and two letters can't be pronounced as one sound.
I'm learning 2 Slavic languages which are Serbian and Russian so I can speak them fluently like a native 🇷🇸🇷🇺
I feel special for being able to speak both fluent SLOVENE and BOSNIAN 💕 I also speak fluent German and very active Danish 🤗
Wow so cool, ich lerne entweder Deutsch und Slowenisch, ich bin Anfänger in Slowenisch. Ich verstehe immer noch nicht warum Leute denken Deutsch ist schwer aber ich kann ganz zustimmen dass Slowenisch sehr schwer ist, ich glaube die 1-3 komplexeste in Europa.
@@joelniv6718 Spricht du Englisch? Es ist ein sehr komische Video auf Yt: ruclips.net/video/cUkkW7cauPE/видео.html Es ist eine Serial von 27 Teilen. Entschildigen uber meine schlechte Deutsche sprache. Ja, Slowenische Sprache ist ein bisschen swehr. In erste Video ist es auch etwas uber Deutsch. :-) Wie mehr schwerer als English ist. Dreimal, aber Slowenische Sprache neunmal.
Really nice video, thanks for uploading. I am the learning Polish now as a first Slavic language but I'd really like to add Russian to my collection of languages taking advantage of the Polish vocabulary that I have!
Polish won't help in learning of Russia a lot. The difference is like between Islandic and English.
1:90 "vast area North of theBlack Sea steppe land where apparently the ProtoSlavic people originated from" this is obsolete, the genetic studies beginning with 2009 completely overthrown this. Slavs are one of oldest inhabitants of Central and also West Europe a wll as East,, South and North..
Croatian speaker here! :) I feel like we Croats can understand other Slavic languages very well, but for a foreign speaker to learn a Slavic language it takes lots time because they are complicated...
It's not complicated. It's a myth
Slavic languages are 'complicated' for English speakers because they have structures that have little/no counterpart in English. Perfective vs imperfective verbs and a case system are two examples of that.
I've studied 4 Slavic languages:
Russian, Old Church Slavonic, Serbian, and Czech. Honestly, this is the BEST way to learn them, but my experience is atypical. Russian gives you a good base, then Old Church Slavonic tears back the veil on the grammar, and then Serbian and Czech show you how it is "supposed" to be compared to Russian.
Great video! Full of useful information, most of which I didn't even know (and I'm a Slav-Serb)...Great to see someone having interest in the Slavic languages...If you ever decide to check out Serbian (Serbo-Croatian) or need help with pronounciation send me a message, I will be glad to help! Greetings from Belgrade :D
Одличан видео! Пун корисних информација, од којих већину нисам чак ни знао (а ја сам Словен-Србин)...Супер је видети да се неко интересује за словенске језике...Ако икада одлучиш да испробаш српски (српско-хрватски) или ти затреба помоћ око изговора пошаљи ми поруку, биће ми драго да помогнем! Поздрав из Београда :D
Learn Russian first - biggest number of native speakers, most well-known writers
Proto-Slavic was possibly spoken as recently as the 9th century, as it is a daughter language of Proto-Balto-Slavic.
Read about so called "Freising Manuscripts". They were written in old Slovene, which existed before 7th century. Which means that your "proto slavic" was simply Slovenian language? No, all old slavic languages were divided much more before your 9th century...There was no "proto balto slavic" language and no "proto slavic" as you imagine.
I want to converse in Montenegrin. It seems like there's not much content available. Is it a good idea to start learning Serbian, Croatian or Russian?
Learning Serbian will be most helpful for you,i think.In fact,those of us born in Serbia,Croatia,Montenegro and BH are polyglots without even trying! 😂 Differences between our language(s) are very few,so if you learn one,you'll understand the others quite well.
@@tvojaprababa OK thank you very much .
well your not exactly correct saying that languages have nothing to do with dna. In some cases it doesnt but in alot of cases it does. In the slavic case there is definitley a genetic connection to the language. The original slavs were dominated by haplogroup R1a which is sitll common in all northern slavs. Southern slavs except for croatians and slovenians do indeed seem to have just adopted the language and not the genes.
Of course there is often a connection in that a particular language group will tend to share a lot of the same DNA. However, many speakers of these languages will not, and there is not a necessary connection. A native speaker of a language need not share the dominant DNA type of the majority of the speakers of that language. That is all I meant.
+Steve Kaufmann - lingosteve yes that is true and definitely the case when it comes to the romance languages especially, however I think it's a mistake to just say languages and DNA don't have any connection. there's two extremes that people usually make. that language defines ethnicity and genes or that language has nothing to do with ethnicity and genes. the truth is usually in the middle
The Novgorod Slavs or Ilmen Slavs are a western Slavic tribe that moved eastwards in VI cen. from Pomerania and East Germany and mixed with finnish tribes dominated by haplogroup N1c. They were called Slovene and actually they were a part of the Slovenian poeple, moved southwards
Panakeje whats nonsense is your statement. The original slavs came from around the Ukraine and southern slavic do indeed have slavic genes in them. Im not saying they dont, but to claim them as the original slavs and more pure slavic than norhtern slaves is pure fantasy. Southern slavs are the descendants also of native tribes to the reigion such as illyrians, and many serbs and croats claim to be illyrian, illyrians were not slavic so there is no suprise there.
Varyag14 where on earth did you read that? its complete nonsense R1a in serbia is about 15% and ive never seen it really higher than 18% anywhere.
Varyag14 what are you talking about? i never said northern slavs are purer in some racial superiority way. Northern slavs are just more genetically closer to the original slavs as the original slavs were a step people. Serbs ethnic serbs never have rates of up to 40% R1a, ive read many studies and they are based on ethnic serbs. I also have nothing to do with albania my family is slovak.
I agree with you...I (temporarily) "dropped" Russian for Polish, and even though I enjoyed it more, I keep regretting the decision whenever I meet Ukranians, Kazakhs, Russian emigrants etc etc...
Tak! Polska jest dobra język! Ja kocham język polskiego.
+CriticalSkater Ale musisz trochę poćwiczyć przypadki :) Poprawnie: "Tak! Polski to dobry język! Kocham język polski. " Pozdrawiam :)
Russian is probably the most useful of all slavic languages
You don't mention though that Eastern Slavic uses Cyrillic script whereas Western uses Latin, something to consider as well.
Along with the Southern Slavic languages who developed and currently use the Cyrillic script.
The languages didn't develop the Cyrillic script.
It was Cyril and Metoděj (Methodeus in Greek).
Languages don't have a mind dude...
www.britannica.com/topic/Cyrillic-alphabet
Klement of Ohrid was a pupil of Cyril and Metoděj, who improved the alphabet.
The first edition of the alphabet came from the brothers.
How can ukrainian sound so similar to russian for you when you already studied russian? When I listen to ukrainian and russian I hear a big difference in sound.
I wonder what the proto slavic language sounded like? It seems that all of their vowels migrated to France.
+L. Thomas Trudeau Funnily enough, the exact same thing happened to French (and most languages around it) - but after cutting all (instead of Slavic's 2) final vowels off it went ahead and got rid of the consonants as well, so that now it has less of those weird consonant clusters.
France was founded by Slavs, known today as allegedly Germanic Franks, who beared Slavic names like Marcomir, the first French king of Scythian Cimmerian (or Crimean) origins according to French sources.
Sobakus
You only demonstrated the terrible disorder in your own mind. And your idiotic racist prejudges.
Let me quotate a text from "Los Godos" (Jurate Rosales), it's translated more or less well by Google:
"For six and a half centuries, Cimmerians and Goths, they forget their alliance in Troy and possibly close its origins, waged a deadly war for domination of Scythia. When she could no longer resist the Cimmerians undertaken in 438 BC a long march towards the West, 560,561 Gedgaudas, C., Musu praeities beieškant, p. 82. Ditto. 212/221 reaching the Rhine. Marched 175,000 people "not including servants and maidens" (sic) .562 Shortly after his name change cimerios by francs. This story has the great virtue of offering the reason why France (founded by the Frankish nation) does not use a Germanic language, but a Romance language. We might even consider that Latin spoken in France was deformed in a way that does not indicate the presence of Germanic influence. Gedgaudas interpreted the names of the kings mentioned in the sicambrina chronicle as an indication of a certain proximity to the Baltic, but while he gave his very personal "Baltica" version of these names, could not avoid the jocular detail is reproduced below: " already in the seventeenth century, several French scholars rightly observed that nation and its leaders had nothing in common with the Germans or Gauls. Mir endings of their kings had a Slavic flavor: Marcomir, Ludomir, Vadamir, Varimir, Rikimir, Tautamir"
Marcomir was literally described as first king of France of Scythian Cimmerian (or literally Crimean) Black Sea origins.
This is the reason for this forgotten fact: "An ancient copy of a portion of the New Testament has been recently discovered at Rheims Cathedral, written in the Sclavonic language. It is said to be the identical copy, which, in former years was used in administering the oath to the kings of France, at their anointment and coronation."
Source: books.google.de/books?id=3yg4AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA476&dq=%22sclavonic+language%22+scandinavia&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0CGYQ6AEwCDg8ahUKEwjPzKqlle3GAhVlnXIKHeKmCNk#v=onepage&q=%22sclavonic%20language%22%20scandinavia&f=false
Try to react as an adult person, even if it's hard.
Old World Order I didn't read your quote for one simple reason: there were all kinds of paleo-Caucasian, Iranic, Turkic, Greek and Roman peoples in Crimea, but never Slavic up until ~10th century CE (and even then they simply conquered it for a short period). The Cimmerians you cite are an Iranic group. You're welcome to show me that Rheims testament - though I suspect you'll have to write it yourself. Marcomer isn't a Slavic name but a Germanic one: *mark-* is a Germanic word meaning "country" (Denmark etc) while *-mir* is a variant of *-meri*, Umlaut of *-mari*, meaning "famous". The latter pops up in a lot of Germanic names as final element. Get your tin hat back on mate and let the mentally stable people with more than 9 classes of education deal with history.
Sobakus
Don't behave such childish, boy. And accept facts. The existence of the mentioned bible is well historically fixed. Unfortunately, especially western so called scientists prefer not to talk about it.
You have to understand, that the conceptions of modern "science" often stand on much weaker feet, for example the late misconception about "Iranian" Scythians or Sarmatians, although all former sources identified them directly with Slavs and didn't know anything about their alleged dissolving and late appearance of Slavs. All former authors directly identify Slavs, particularly Russians with them, among with Scytho-Tauri of Crimea, for example. Or Hyperboreans. You can see it in literature or maps up to the 17th century and later. The Scythians / Sarmatians are usually not regarded as "ancient", but are simply medieval people or medieval names of different Slavic groups and - in case of Scythians - sometimes their Turkic and other co-citizens. Serboi, Nagai, Yazygs, Rosalani etc. are well known as designations of Slavs.
"Germanic" Marcomir? Really? What's about all the other clearly Slavic names of French and German rulers? It's better to ignore them, right?
This is the name of a Slovenian king from the 10th century, also Marcomir. How many Germanic Marcomirs do you know?
books.google.de/books?id=LP9iAAAAcAAJ&pg=RA1-PA166&dq=%22Coney-skins,+being+laid+upon+them+;+%27Petro+Orfeolo,being+then+Duke+of+Venice,and+Marcomir+King+of+the+Sclavonians%22&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjb3Zikgp3KAhWQhhoKHQKLBSAQ6AEIHzAA#v=onepage&q=%22Coney-skins%2C%20being%20laid%20upon%20them%20%3B%20%27Petro%20Orfeolo%2Cbeing%20then%20Duke%20of%20Venice%2Cand%20Marcomir%20King%20of%20the%20Sclavonians%22&f=false
What your saying is spot on.
but do you keep a schedule for reading a language per day or does not have a rule?
+Eduardo Pires Whenever I can, no rule
Hello +Steve Kaufmann - lingosteve ! I understand your choice of Russian first, many people do this on the way of learning different Slavic/Slavonic (more in British English) languages, because that's right the Russian culture and background is very interesting. Personaly I've chosen Serbian (and so on with Croatian as 'Yugoslav' or Serbo-Croatian language) because to me the vocalisation rang me clearer, there are far less wet voyels, there are not opened 'o' close to 'a', 'e' close to 'ee' or when stressed 'ieh', this is more simple and because there are an aspect which that makes Serbian/Croatian a bridge language to others Slavic languages (probably due to relationships between Slovak and Serbian, culturally in former Hungarian Banat; as Slovak is the real Slavic bridge language) and in the same time lot of influences: Latin, Byzantine, Turkish .
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When I was learning Russian I was amazed by how many loan words they use on a day-to-day basis. I speak Polish BTW.
Marcin Ratajczyk у вас тоже много иностранных слов
@@sarahweis7360 Я думаю что в русском языке заимствованных слов больше чем в любом другом славянском языке. Да и словарный запас больше.
Omoikane Omake что так думать нужно знать все славянские языки
@@sarahweis7360 Не нужно знать все языки, русский больше чем наполовину состоит из латинских, немецких, греческих, французских и тюркских слов. Остальные славянские языки были в большей степени изолированы от внешних влияний. При этом в русском языке сохранились славянские синонимы многих заимствованных слов, в виде устаревших и неиспользуемых в современной речи.
Omoikane Omake а как вы можете быть уверены, что в русском больше, если не знаете других славянских языков? Я изучала польский и знаю о чем спрашиваю, а у вас какой опыт ?
On Russian literature. I agree with the point, but it's not about how famous they were, but the richness of whole tradition makes Russian literature more fine-grained and innovative. Just take early Nabokov or Platonov. There are still no guys like those in any other Slavic languages.
And the poetry is another whole universe, condensed in time.
There are many great writers and poets in other Slavic languages, but if you start with Russian you'll have a really firm ground.
And be careful with the colloquial Russian. It can be far from being exquisite. In fact, it's the rudest language I've encountered, as well as a huge amount of speakers of it.
West Slavs in this sense are more ethical and caring of their mundane language culture.
Steve, how about the difference between Turkic languages, have you ever been interested in that set of languages? I believe there's more variety than the Slavic languages
There is also German Sorbian language still alive. They speak in 2 different dialects.
Wonderful!!!
Hello Steve!
Perhaps you want to look for the topic: "Винчанска култура"
when it comes to the origins of the slavs... perhaps this will give you another idea of slavic immigration an the slavic lingua franca...
Keep on your research and studies!
Hi, Steve.
I am very interested what is your opinion on Bulgarian as one of its older versions, also known as Old Church Slavonic, and more or less the progenitor of a lot of the modern Slavic languages, at least with a great influence on them. It is significantly different from Russian and the other Slavic languages grammar-wise and closer to the Western languages (most notably that it has articles), etc.
I have to admit that I know nothing about it.
Moravian is the closest to Church Slavonic.
With all the casuses, articles and mind-spiral-creating rules that make even a native speaker confused when trying to explain how it works.
My friends always say, that if you drink enough, you know every language. Try that - it really works.
9:25 He found _what_ a phenomenal resource?
Great Observation, but i must add that Russian is also a south slavic language, it developed from Old Church Slavonic, or old Bulgarian!!!
Toulky českou minulostí byly vydány i v knižní podobě a neměl by být problém objednat.
Pokud se někdo opravdu rozhodne česky učit, nebývá problém na internetu odchytit někoho, kdo bude ochoten trošku pomoct v začátcích.
What was the resource called when you said it had interviews and transcripts for Russian?
+JoshyB137 Echo Moskvi
Большое спасибо!
Old russian is ancestor of Russian and Ukrainian, And they both are still close in lexicons (not only in grammar), Although the one have some polish words and the other have some bulgarian words.
It is true but a uniform 'Old Russian' language has never existed. The East Slavic dialects that had later become Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian were indeed similar but never the same, as they have formed on Uralic, Iranian and Baltic substrates respectively on the territory that is quite big. Also during the Soviet period standard Ukrainian has been made slightly closer to Russian in terms of lexicon, which probably isn't a huge surprise.
Anton Sherstiuk Old Russian Language exist in the old chronicles and It is rather Russian. Ukraine means borderlands. The nationality appeared in the late nineteenth century. Ukrainian is a dialect with an admixture of Polish. We are genetically the same. What the hell substrates? If russian reads ukrainian folk songs, almost all clear.
AleksandrSL Yep, except those chronicles were written in Church Slavonic. Do more research.
Anton Sherstiuk Not in Old Slavoniс. Do it yourself.
***** The chronicles where whritten everywhere, and later there was migrations from Kiev to Moscow and from West of Rus' to the Kiev. And the what I read was much closer to modern Russian than to anything else.
I like your longer videos a lot.
In march I`m starting to learn turkish (:
great video, excited to start with Russian
411 pal, Mr. Know it all, I am 3/4 Bohemian (Czech) an 1/4 German Sudetenland, my all 4 of my grandparents were immigrants 1919 to the US and became Midwest Farmers. All had some college or graduated college and all spoke at least 4 central or western European language besides Bohemian Slavic. I speak Czech and German frequently as well as my native English, I also speak Italian and Japanese. So, Polish or Lithuanian Slavic is nothing like Bohemian "Czech or Slovakian" Slavic. Everyone in my family or Grandparents, 5 Grand Uncles and 3 Grand Aunts will tell you Czechs (Bohemians, including Moravians) struggle to understand Pols, Lithuanians, Bulgarians, Croats, Ukrainians, all that classify as East Europeans. Serbians Slavs (Slavs of eastern Germany do speak Slavic closest to Bohemian Slavic.) I am a PhD Evolutionary Anthropologist, Univ of Chicago and 72 years old.
Do you have to learn the Russian cases for native speakers to understand you?
Cases are pretty much a requirement for complex sentences.
+Brent Roberts yes, otherwise you would note make any sentence, cause wie don't have a strict sentence structure.
like: "Dog eats bone" the words can be placed in any order and it would still have the same meaning, if the cases are right ;)
yay longer vids
Just for refference - Bulgarians gave the Slavs their alphabet. So you might think twice when you discuss Bulgaria and not to underestimate it.
Galin Petkov replace bulgaria with macedonia and you are right.From Serbia
@@milicaskartov8071 From that post we all see you like to read Marvel comics and then say it is all true ;)
P.S. Bulgaria did not gave alphabet to all Slavs just some on the west border and Russians ;)
@@beadsman13 , Russian alphabet has changed a lot though centuries. modern Bulgarian alphabet looks like modern Russian alphabet because in 19-20 centuries Russian culture and language influenced on Bulgarians. most similiarities in words are due to Russian influenced on Bulgarian. bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Руско_влияние_върху_българския_език
Byzantine Christian theologians and missionaries Cyril (born Constantine, 826-869) and Methodius are credited with devising the Glagolitic alphabet, the first alphabet used to transcribe Old Church Slavonic.
You said that you want to pay for books. But most classic literature in russian, for example, are free by definition, because of expiration of author's rights. The same situation I think is in the case of not modern ukrainian books.
+Павел Сургутов I said I don't mind paying for books. But I love 19th century literature which I download for free from the internet and study at LingQ!
Dobrý deň pán Štefan (Steve), ak rozumiete a hovoríte po Česky alebo Poľsky, porozumieť Slovenskému jazyku by nemal byť väčší problém pre Vás. Preto odporúčam slovenčinu ako váš piaty slovanský jazyk,okrem toho, že zneje pekne môže byť dobrý prechod k juho-slovanským jazykom ako je chorváčtina alebo srbčina. Hovorí sa, že Slovensko je centrum Slovanskej kultúry a Slovenčina je najviac podobná k proto-slovanskému jazyku. Preto my ľahko rozumieme Čechom, Poliakom ale aj Chorvátom alebo Ukrajincom. Osobne som navštívil všetky tieto krajiny a dohovoriť sa tam nebol väčší problém ak si človek uvedomí niektoré jazykové javy ako napríklad zamieňanie "h"/"g" v slovách. I understand English quite well but am writing this comment in Slovak lang to show you how comprehensible it is. Also you have pretty good knowledge about Slavic history. I am interested in dead alphabet of Veľká Morava/Nitrianske kniežactvo - Hlaholika (Glagolitic script) currently.
Martin Hate I'm Russian and understood 90%
I really like your long videos and I'm happy to watch a new one ;)
Learn Serbo-Croatian. It is the most similar language in terms of accent to Proto-Slavic (even though the vocabulary is divergent).
no it isn't.
6 consonants and 2 vocals from the Proto-Slavic language are missing in Serbo-Croat. how can it be the closest?
Serbo-Croat is the most simplified Slavic language.
in Czech only 1 vocal is missing. in Slovak, Rusyn and Ukrainian only 1 vocal and 1 consonant are missing. Belorussian and Russian are missing 2 consonants and 1 vocal. the rest have an over-simplified accent.
this 'my country has the oldest language' patriotism is ridiculous.
Although I appreciate the effort and video, your historic knowledge about Slavic countries and their languages need some review.
I'm Serbian. I can't read cryllic but when my Russian friend translates into the Latin alphabet I can understand it very well
I thought all Serbs used Cyrillic as well as the Latin alphabet.
@@Thelinguist I live in America and never had formal education on Serbian so I just use Latin alphabet. My mother who was born in Serbia knows cryllic
I'm sure you would have a lot of success with the Croatian & Serbian languages. The people are very approachable.
but don't come to us saying you want to learn serbo-croatian!! you either wanna learn serbian or croatian!
In Croatia people are approachable. I don`t know for other countries. Why wouldn`t they be..
If you read the history of Bulgaria (the 3rd oldest state in Europe) you would realize that mistake you made in 3:00. But errare humanum est.
Russian,serbian,ukrainian and any other "slavic" alphabet do not exist,because all so call "slavic" languages use Bulgarian writing system Cyrillic created in Bulgaria for Bulgarian language.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_script
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_system
i admire you ,you'r my best teacher
by the way i like the long vedio
You're spot on with everything you said, really impressive knowledge about the entire slavic area. The genetic matter really got me interested, would be nice to hear something more about it and other reasonings behind the beginning and evolution of different language groups/families and eventually languages themselves
What really pisses me off is the amount of people saying “Ukrainian isn’t a thing.”
Then what is it?
It’s not an artificial language. And if it was, then it’d be the most successful artificial language ever made as 40 million people speak it as their first language, including me.
Ukrainian began to diverge from Russian after the mongols broke-up the Kyivan Ruś, around the 13th century. And even before the breakup there were already differences in the languages.
The average Russian can’t understand Ukrainian, at least not enough to have a conversation. I know this because where I live, in the US, there are a lot of Ukrainians and a lot of Russians. We all know our mother tongue, but communicate in English because we can’t understand each other in our mother tongues.
Basically what I’m trying to say is that Ukraine is its own language. Not Russian, not Polish, not Belarusian, but its own distinct language.
No one except "jilted" Russian state propagandists say Ukrainian isn´t a language but a dialect. Screw them.
Steve, how do you manage to keep warm with the languages that you are not learning at the moment? Do you simply let them aside and practice a little bit once you know you are going to have to use it?
Do you learn more than one language at a time or always choose a main one on the process of learning?
+Eduardo Pires Listen and read and LingQ.
This is great! We did a video about funny differences between Bulgarian and Polish words, that sound very similar, but mean something else :) You can check it out on our channel if you'd like! Regards from Karolina and Konstantin
i have a video on the difference between nothing and something.
check it out.
Slavic languages are my favorite favorite language family, why?
1. Beautiful sound
2. Those written in the Cyrillic script has such a beautiful orthography, especially Czech.
3. Cases. Learning complexed grammar makes me forget about how many world I'll need to learn, and the idea of cases is cool.
4. There is something exotic about Slavs that makes me love them.
5. Beautiful small countries like Slovenia 🇸🇮, Slovakia 🇸🇰, Czech Rep. 🇨🇿 and also the coolness of Russia сука блять 🇷🇺
Czech is by default written in Latin script with some special diacritics.
Enjoyed this video. I have Czech friend that tells me Czech people aren't very religious these days.
+floodland99 Most Europeans are out of the Iron Age by now, not only Czechs.
Czech are actually one of the least religious nations in Europe due to Jan Hus and communism.
+3nutria it's quite funny how the history rolled. Poland became Christian with the help of Czech. Now, Poland is very religious and Czech doesn't.
What's the easiest Slavic language
Serbian, because they mostly use the Latin alphabet.
@@Verschlimmbesserung serbs use cyrillic
I suppose Bulgarian because they don't use cases
12 minutes speking and?
im a native Serbian speaker.... you pissed off a lot of Serbs and Croatians when you said serb-Croatian, укључујући мене
Hello Steve! If you happen to be interested in Serbian/Bosnian/Croatian/Montenegrin, I will help you for free. Cheers!
Da li govorite Srpski?
+Justin Royek Not yet but I hope to one day.
I hope one day you will start learning Lithuanian language.
+MR2016 I would like to. It sounds interesting, very old.
Ever since I read the graphic novel "Everlasting Summer," learn about the real/old USSR/CCCP summer camps, and learning about Samantha Smith that was invited to Artek (a summer camp) in 1982, I wanted to learn all about the culture and who are the Russia people today. I am learning Russian through Rosetta Stone Levels 1-5 & learning about the history through The Great Courses "A History of Russia: From Peter the Great to Gorbachev" by Professor Mark Steinberg. The more I learn from it all, wow! I learn more about myself than from what I am actually studying. I am sure I could learn the Russian's history without learning their language, but it would be like walking in a 2D room. I rather walk in a realistic 3-D one. :)
+Brandon Bowers Give LingQ a try for your Russian, that is where I learned mine.
Steve Kaufmann - lingosteve If it was not for having Hughesnet (sadly the only ISP in our area; 15GB/mo), I would have tried the free online languages first. I also know that Rosetta Stone is great! They teach on a regurgitation method than getting one to remember words and the like... the only mether of their teaching. Most do not have photographic memories. :) Don't get me wrong, I will learn through other means too. I even use Google translator to help me when I start a new lesson. HECK! I just love learning! :D Later on, after learning more words, i would not mind reading "Everlasting Summer" in Russian.
+Steve Kaufmann - lingosteve Steve, it could be my Obsessive/Compulsive nature creeping in, but I find that I am always interested in the mechanics of a language i.e., how it works, to the detriment at times of actually speaking it. The mechanics of a particular language are just an interest with me. What are your thoughts on this? I will tell you that the most progress I have made in language study (speaking, at least) has been the use of the FSI French course and the Pimsleur Spanish, both of which emphasize the spoken word. In studying with these courses, I find that I even pick up some of the nuances of the language which I may have picked up by a more analytical study. But I always get back to worrying about if I have really understood a particular grammar point in depth. This is perhaps overkill on my part. Would appreciate any advice, admonitions, etc.
+Brandon Bowers why even bother?
Volodymyr Panat Why ever bother with what? Learning the Russian language, learning their history, what?
Russian has a huge amount of loan words from Latin, Greek, French and German, whereas other Slavic languages have much foreign loan words.
It may explain the vocabulary differences between Russian and the other Slavic languages.
Most of the other Slavic languages kept the original Slavic words while Russian substituted many of the native words for Latin, Greek, French, German, Italian, English and even Turkish and Persian.
Возьми для сравнения любой славянский язык и проверь слова на букву "а" и ты поймешь, что большинство слов заимствовано
Tsardom and Soviets are completely different things
And they both spoke Russian
@@smorrow and
LMAO, Serbo - Croatian not exist since 1992. 0 peoples speak Serbo-Croatian. There is only Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian, Montenegrin (BCSM).
And it is basically same language. We understand each other without any difficulties. Everything else is just politics and cheap nationalism.
Filip Pešić Filip Pešić you can't say that serbian is original language and we
croats are not trying to make up any language, we always had our
language, since croatia has been mentioned in history long before serbia
or serbian language....the one who say lies it is YOU and if somebody
hates you this is the main reason....the guy from the video knows that
there existed original acient slavic language common to all Slavs and
sure this is no serbian :D :D :D
View grammar of the Slovenian language at least, I think you will be very impressed
As in?