2:33:06 Can we all take a moment to realize that this game is devoted to the memory of someone? I dont know who Jimmy Shin was, but I can't imagine a heinous enough crime he could have committed that he deserved that kind of posthumous slander.
I'm convinced the deafness aspect was added last minute in a desperate attempt to make something memorable. It would explain why there's so much dialogue.
Just for fun, an attempt to list all the ways this game is worse with sound: - The writing is more awful than anything you could've imagined - You find out that the cop is not Dane's friend from when he was a kid who helped him deal with the death of his mother, as you might have assumed from the framing of the soundless cutscenes, but rather his abusive dad who hates him - The mother and the love interest being identical is made MUCH creepier by the text basically supporting the Oedipus complex read - Even more racist somehow - Did I mention the writing is bad? - The twist is more confusing (Were we EVER really Dr. Spaghetti? Did Dane just think he was, but it was really copdad the whole time? But then why did we become Spaghetti at the end? Is this Fight Club or not?) - Why does Dane make those weird rasping noises when he becomes the quiet man? Not very quiet of him imo - The dialogue over the final fight ruins the conceit because there's no way Dane could've understood what copdad was saying while his face was obscured by the mask. Did they forget he was supposed to be deaf? - Despite being called Answered, it provides no answers to the few things you may actually have been wondering about (Why did Lala arrange her own kidnapping? WHY DID WE GET SUPERPOWERS SUDDENLY AT THE END?) - The new final scene? Bad In conclusion, video games are art. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
I'm pretty sure she was working with loud dad to kidnap herself, using Isaac and his gang as a ruse, so that he could "save" her and get revenge at the same time, helping him get over his psychological trauma by knocking out two songless birds with one stone. The stuff with Taye I don't think was supposed to happen and it only happened because bad hair man called him on the phone that one time which Dane really did nothing clear to prevent so he had it coming. I don't think loud dad was planning to directly redeem himself either, and it was because Taye became a weird dickhead all-of-a-sudden that he stepped in and pushed Dane into becoming the Quiet Man, hence the "I pushed you too far." I have no idea how punching him was supposed to get rid of the Quiet Man psychologically or where the super powers came from. Maybe they were trying to do a thing like that one lady who wrote about how her disability was a super power to help her cope with it; I don't know. Anyway, it's bad.
I really like that we all thought the cop was a good guy, but nope, it's America so the cop has to be an absolute shitlord for no reason at all! THANKS game!
@@ManOutofTime913 Right, Lala was trying to get Robert/Ash/Cop Dad to kidnap him because she thought Taye was too controlling, I think. Taye was supposed to be out of town for this. Cop Dad arranged to do this dressed as Quiet Man and helped by Isaac's goons, but I have no idea how. He did it because he wanted revenge on Isaac and Dane, because of their role in L-Mom's death (I forgot her name already). He probably sent the stalker letters because he wanted Dane to go nuts and help, somehow, and he may have also built the stalker shrine in Isaac's clubhouse, but all of that might also have been Dane's doing. Then Cop Dad called the cops on Dane for some reason, put the Quiet Man outfit in Taye's office somehow, and Dane went nuts for some reason and wrecked the club, causing Taye to turn on him. Then after Dane had beaten Isaac and Taye and saved New Mom from being shot, Cop Dad wore the mask so that Dane could also beat Quiet Man. And then Lala started singing again because she was free and Dane went to prison for having been a mob assassin or something. I don't know who made the mask, or why Isaac allowed Cop Dad to start a war between his supposedly small gang and Taye's bigger gang, or how Cop Dad got Dane to attack Taye, or what happened to Taye afterwards, or what Isaac thought he knew.
@@PseudonymousCoward Well, we had that scene just before Dane turned into the Super Quiet Man where him and Lala were talking and he says he wishes he could save her. I sincerely think this game is stupid enough that she went to Dad Cop with the express purpose of making that happen. And that Cop Dad incited Isaac's gang into rioting at the club so he could use Dane and Taye to destroy them while letting his son get some closure by punching a very large man out a window. He probably planted the Quiet Man shit everywhere too since there's no way Isaac would know about it. I really think that everything with Taye was just a coincidence that they had to deal with because of bad hair man. Like you said, he was supposed to be out of town. Anyway, it's so bad that it physically hurts.
As someone who isn't hearing impaired but has trouble processing speech sometimes, white subtitles on a white background is not a good design choice. Also I never realised in the silent playthrough that the mother and the love interest were actually different people. I thought the story was 'hey my mom is actually alive after all, nice, oh no it's Doctor Spaghetti' but it was actually something far, far worse.
I'm wondering how the therapist didn't just call CPS on Dane's shithead dad as soon as he said he [Dane] deserved every inch of the pain he was receiving.
I love how they didn't bother to model a separate screen on the lady's phone so that it made it look like she was talking to someone. I swear, it looked like she saw she was getting a call and didn't realize you were supposed to hit accept to even connect.
So, they knew their plot was shit and decided to pull audio prior to release in order to make it seem way more interesting than it actually is. That's totally what happened, right?
Isaac is unironically the best bit of the game. He's supposed to be a dickhead but he just seems too goofy for that. Like I'd crack open a beer with him to be fair. Plus his fast zombie walk
Quiet Man was designed by a tabletop munchkin who took deafness to get extra points in combat but then "forgets" about it the instant they start playing.
Kinda shocked Tie or Madi didn't ask why the fuck did the mom not seem to have any problem walking by or letting her son wave at two people about to have a fucking gunfight.
For the longest time I did not realize that the beeping noise that occurred when you punch people was Tie's controller and not part of the game, and I was very confused. Not sure if it makes the game better or worse.
So apparently the canon answer is that this game was never Fight Club, just your shitty dad trying to convince you you were Fight Club so that you'd beat up your friend because gangs?
I like to imagine that this game was created because Square Enix needed to bring balance to the universe from the release of a really good Nier sequel with an equally awful sequel to The Bouncer based on Dr Spaghetti fan fiction. That is the only logical conclusion I can draw as to how this was made.
hello i already commented on this video to the same effect when it was first uploaded, but goddamn, every time i come back to this thing for background noise (that's a compliment Tie, i promise) i am completely blown away by just how garbage the subtitling is. it's not just the white text on white background thing. lines are shown way ahead of time, like taye has some decently delivered lines with a nice pause in the middle, and the second part is shown way too early so the whole massive subtitle lingers for way too long and it feels amateur as shit, and you would think a game centered around a deaf protag would have more care and attention put into the subtitling than most other games and you would be wrong and piss ass
1:29:18 the best Also www.imdb.com/name/nm5380719/ Taye's actor actually knows Aikido. They could've made the acting authentic and protect Dane by not using a gun. I want to see the first drafts and outlines for the writing of this shitbox.
So wait, NOW they add subtitles when there's fucking voices now?! So what is even the entire fucking point of this game now, god all of this is like the deaf person's equivalent of Springtime For Hitler.
Oliver Maxwell You start slow, with SNES garbage, then you expand into Wii Shovelware... NES nonsense, and Sega shit. Once you have branched out into the grand history of garbage you go for the sprawling narrative agony found in Sonic 06 in order to build up a mighty immune system. And you play that game until you are the fastest garbage man on RUclips. Anyone willing to train in the garbage arts can learn to handle the noise of The Quiet Man. Why one would, however, remains a mystery that even badly formatted subtitles cannot reveal.
tie, i love your stuff, but you didn't need to play through this game twice. i appreciate it, but no one should ever feel like they have to play this game twice.
okay, copdad evil monologuing while his deaf son looks away from him because he thinks hes just trying to give him a dad talk is hilarious
2:33:06 Can we all take a moment to realize that this game is devoted to the memory of someone? I dont know who Jimmy Shin was, but I can't imagine a heinous enough crime he could have committed that he deserved that kind of posthumous slander.
I'm convinced the deafness aspect was added last minute in a desperate attempt to make something memorable.
It would explain why there's so much dialogue.
Just for fun, an attempt to list all the ways this game is worse with sound:
- The writing is more awful than anything you could've imagined
- You find out that the cop is not Dane's friend from when he was a kid who helped him deal with the death of his mother, as you might have assumed from the framing of the soundless cutscenes, but rather his abusive dad who hates him
- The mother and the love interest being identical is made MUCH creepier by the text basically supporting the Oedipus complex read
- Even more racist somehow
- Did I mention the writing is bad?
- The twist is more confusing (Were we EVER really Dr. Spaghetti? Did Dane just think he was, but it was really copdad the whole time? But then why did we become Spaghetti at the end? Is this Fight Club or not?)
- Why does Dane make those weird rasping noises when he becomes the quiet man? Not very quiet of him imo
- The dialogue over the final fight ruins the conceit because there's no way Dane could've understood what copdad was saying while his face was obscured by the mask. Did they forget he was supposed to be deaf?
- Despite being called Answered, it provides no answers to the few things you may actually have been wondering about (Why did Lala arrange her own kidnapping? WHY DID WE GET SUPERPOWERS SUDDENLY AT THE END?)
- The new final scene? Bad
In conclusion, video games are art. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
I'm pretty sure she was working with loud dad to kidnap herself, using Isaac and his gang as a ruse, so that he could "save" her and get revenge at the same time, helping him get over his psychological trauma by knocking out two songless birds with one stone. The stuff with Taye I don't think was supposed to happen and it only happened because bad hair man called him on the phone that one time which Dane really did nothing clear to prevent so he had it coming. I don't think loud dad was planning to directly redeem himself either, and it was because Taye became a weird dickhead all-of-a-sudden that he stepped in and pushed Dane into becoming the Quiet Man, hence the "I pushed you too far." I have no idea how punching him was supposed to get rid of the Quiet Man psychologically or where the super powers came from. Maybe they were trying to do a thing like that one lady who wrote about how her disability was a super power to help her cope with it; I don't know.
Anyway, it's bad.
I really like that we all thought the cop was a good guy, but nope, it's America so the cop has to be an absolute shitlord for no reason at all! THANKS game!
@@ManOutofTime913 Right, Lala was trying to get Robert/Ash/Cop Dad to kidnap him because she thought Taye was too controlling, I think. Taye was supposed to be out of town for this. Cop Dad arranged to do this dressed as Quiet Man and helped by Isaac's goons, but I have no idea how. He did it because he wanted revenge on Isaac and Dane, because of their role in L-Mom's death (I forgot her name already). He probably sent the stalker letters because he wanted Dane to go nuts and help, somehow, and he may have also built the stalker shrine in Isaac's clubhouse, but all of that might also have been Dane's doing. Then Cop Dad called the cops on Dane for some reason, put the Quiet Man outfit in Taye's office somehow, and Dane went nuts for some reason and wrecked the club, causing Taye to turn on him. Then after Dane had beaten Isaac and Taye and saved New Mom from being shot, Cop Dad wore the mask so that Dane could also beat Quiet Man. And then Lala started singing again because she was free and Dane went to prison for having been a mob assassin or something.
I don't know who made the mask, or why Isaac allowed Cop Dad to start a war between his supposedly small gang and Taye's bigger gang, or how Cop Dad got Dane to attack Taye, or what happened to Taye afterwards, or what Isaac thought he knew.
@@PseudonymousCoward Well, we had that scene just before Dane turned into the Super Quiet Man where him and Lala were talking and he says he wishes he could save her. I sincerely think this game is stupid enough that she went to Dad Cop with the express purpose of making that happen. And that Cop Dad incited Isaac's gang into rioting at the club so he could use Dane and Taye to destroy them while letting his son get some closure by punching a very large man out a window. He probably planted the Quiet Man shit everywhere too since there's no way Isaac would know about it.
I really think that everything with Taye was just a coincidence that they had to deal with because of bad hair man. Like you said, he was supposed to be out of town.
Anyway, it's so bad that it physically hurts.
- Besides the occasional signing and a few lines by “Little bitch” guy, there’s zero indication that he’s deaf
In retrospect I'm not surprised it's worse with sound, but I am surprised by HOW MUCH worse it is.
It's almost amazing how this game managed to go from offensively stupid pretentious trash to stupidly offensive pretentious trash in a week's time.
I am really happy that Neil Breen decided to get into video game business.
"only subtitled in second run" reminds me of Nier except instead of there being a twist it just sucks
“WHY THIS? What the fuck is this?”
Nice of the game to really sum itself up perfectly!
"See... I understand jealousy, hate, greed... but what the fuck is that shitty-ass bird mask?!"
As someone who isn't hearing impaired but has trouble processing speech sometimes, white subtitles on a white background is not a good design choice.
Also I never realised in the silent playthrough that the mother and the love interest were actually different people. I thought the story was 'hey my mom is actually alive after all, nice, oh no it's Doctor Spaghetti' but it was actually something far, far worse.
so the guy beating the absolute living hell out of young dane in that flashback is actually dadcop?! and they tried to redeem him.......? jesus.
That has been baffling to me. With such an asshole of a dad, how did he keep custody of Dane, and why are they even trying to patch things up?
I'm wondering how the therapist didn't just call CPS on Dane's shithead dad as soon as he said he [Dane] deserved every inch of the pain he was receiving.
Unrelated to everything but had to point it out: at 49:12 the marquee is advertising "Big Ostrich Cult".
Everyone likes _Don't Fear Van Riper,_ but I think their Magnum Opus is _Silver Age of Naugahyde._
"Two Mugmans" Well Mugman and his pal Mugman...
Sometimes a mystery should just stay one. Dear lord.
I love how they didn't bother to model a separate screen on the lady's phone so that it made it look like she was talking to someone. I swear, it looked like she saw she was getting a call and didn't realize you were supposed to hit accept to even connect.
no one is named lala outside of gundam
So, they knew their plot was shit and decided to pull audio prior to release in order to make it seem way more interesting than it actually is. That's totally what happened, right?
Isaac is unironically the best bit of the game.
He's supposed to be a dickhead but he just seems too goofy for that. Like I'd crack open a beer with him to be fair.
Plus his fast zombie walk
Quiet Man was designed by a tabletop munchkin who took deafness to get extra points in combat but then "forgets" about it the instant they start playing.
1:45:43 TieTuesday started streaming as a goof and now he’s ranked 5th in Piss [Indoor% no-glitch] speedruns
She's named Lala.
The license plate on the limousine Taye drives up to her house in says UC0079.
something something "she could've been a mother to me"
Well, I'm screaming now. @@KotoneJulford
No. Shut up. I refuse to believe that this much thought went into any given part of the Quiet Man.
@@RegalZephyr of course thought went into it, it just went to all the wrong places.
Kinda shocked Tie or Madi didn't ask why the fuck did the mom not seem to have any problem walking by or letting her son wave at two people about to have a fucking gunfight.
I can't handle Quiet Boy's arms doing light saber sounds at the end. What a smart game.
I'm shocked that you actually went through with it and did The Quiet Man: Second Impact
TheRightestdogwhohasthecorrectopinionallthetime The Quiet Man: 2nd Gig
You can (not) hear
For the longest time I did not realize that the beeping noise that occurred when you punch people was Tie's controller and not part of the game, and I was very confused. Not sure if it makes the game better or worse.
So apparently the canon answer is that this game was never Fight Club, just your shitty dad trying to convince you you were Fight Club so that you'd beat up your friend because gangs?
I like to imagine that this game was created because Square Enix needed to bring balance to the universe from the release of a really good Nier sequel with an equally awful sequel to The Bouncer based on Dr Spaghetti fan fiction.
That is the only logical conclusion I can draw as to how this was made.
when David Cage is your dad, you should be quiet about your EMOSINZ, HAH-HAH
1:30:42 Proto Man, in the distance: "HAH!"
How the hell is it possible that this game is WORSE with the sound?!
hello i already commented on this video to the same effect when it was first uploaded, but goddamn, every time i come back to this thing for background noise (that's a compliment Tie, i promise) i am completely blown away by just how garbage the subtitling is. it's not just the white text on white background thing. lines are shown way ahead of time, like taye has some decently delivered lines with a nice pause in the middle, and the second part is shown way too early so the whole massive subtitle lingers for way too long and it feels amateur as shit, and you would think a game centered around a deaf protag would have more care and attention put into the subtitling than most other games and you would be wrong and piss ass
1:29:18 the best
Also www.imdb.com/name/nm5380719/ Taye's actor actually knows Aikido. They could've made the acting authentic and protect Dane by not using a gun. I want to see the first drafts and outlines for the writing of this shitbox.
So wait, NOW they add subtitles when there's fucking voices now?! So
what is even the entire fucking point of this game now, god all of this is like the deaf person's equivalent of Springtime For Hitler.
0:35 smash 4 confirmed
is the audio paid DLC? because that would be pretty scummy, literally charging money for the most basic of functions
Why did you do this, TieTuesday? I'm genuinely curious as to how someone could be THIS masochistic.
Oliver Maxwell You start slow, with SNES garbage, then you expand into Wii Shovelware... NES nonsense, and Sega shit.
Once you have branched out into the grand history of garbage you go for the sprawling narrative agony found in Sonic 06 in order to build up a mighty immune system. And you play that game until you are the fastest garbage man on RUclips.
Anyone willing to train in the garbage arts can learn to handle the noise of The Quiet Man. Why one would, however, remains a mystery that even badly formatted subtitles cannot reveal.
we simply cannot comprehend Tie's power
tie, i love your stuff, but you didn't need to play through this game twice. i appreciate it, but no one should ever feel like they have to play this game twice.