how is the battery on keystone pro 3 i read online that alot of people has problems with the battery dying not charging and after 5 6 month completely dead ? i wanted to buy this its open source and safe but if the battery is like that its a deal breaker.
I had my Ngrave for almost two years. The coin support is okay but the finger print reader and battery life is the worst out of any hardware wallet. I only use it for long term storage because it’s just not convenient for staking or more frequent transactions. Plus they have no desktop support.
@Transporter1668 Thanks for the input. I longed of getting a N-Zero but ended up with other alternatives like The K3Pro and the Ellipal 2.0. By now, I’ll just wait for the next bull run . By that time, I believe that not only the price will have dropped but a new and improved version will be released by then. 2023 has seen so many new updated wallet releases from most of the manufacturers. I think next year, NGRAVE will be next.
@@sharlawya6868 I got the Keystone pro and really like it myself, the only drawback is a native app. I am still waiting on the Titan to ship but looks like a great wallet too.
dam After this crazy ledger issue today, im glad to start looking for better wallets. few weeks back i bought the trezor 3. Now i see this Keystone product. Looks very good! What is your go to wallet now?
I haven’t touched my ngrave in so long lol 😂 does the camera still give problems, or did the firmware updates fix it? Because after the camera problems I was so turned off I just put the device away…
I still need to test the ''sending outs'' on my unit. I am using it for a long term storage. But from what people said....the camera is still not working properly.
SIG (not special interest group) v. Multi-SIG = Multi-Signature (Device or System). Multi-Signature ~ refers to the ability to require multiple private keys in order to transact a cryptocurrency transaction
I don't get how you have so few likes, views and subscribers considering the importance of learning about these devices. The only thing that would be better would be tutorials on how to use them. That doesn't get covered enough, especially with so many new investors coming into crypto. I appreciate your channel immensely. And why does RUclips demonetize you?
@cryptorenegade I've been trying to get open cellular communication with you ever since NGRAVE ZERO COMBO $700 & shape shift keep key became available that I bought BOTH through your site but despite all my messages u never responded; so I moved on to spend my subscription 💰money & join many others. To bad financially for you your follow-through is so poor bc this goes back 2 years, but I watch you once & a while, but you disparaged my patronage.
Keystone got rid of their native application and recommended their users use a third-party wallet. This makes me feel they are not trying to collect data, and makes me trust them more.
The EL security categorisation is just a stamp and doesn't mean that Ngrave is more secure than the Keystone, especially that KS is "open source" and you don't have any proof for security of the NG!
How about the battery? Keep in mind that I have both and I can say that the battery on the NGZ is not that good, period. I have reviewed both on my channel, non-english review, so I know what I am talking about.
Battery def has room for improvement on both sides. Good news is, from a hardware standpoint, its not an issue. Most of these can be further optimized through software/firmware updates.
Did you say Keystone requires importing the seed phrase on third party wallets? Are you sure? I mean if this is true, then why do I need a hardware if I still going to expose the seed phrase on a non-cold wallet?
@@-zerocool-true. There is no seed phrase exposure whatsoever. I think I either misunderstood what Renegade said or he said something other than what he meant. I bought both wallets and ended up returning the NGrave Zero and ordering another two Keystone 3 Pro. It is impossible to justify the Zero price in the presence of 3 Pro to be honest
I suppose Audits are no joke, and it does take years to have something open source for what seems to be a small team. Patience on the Ngrave is key. Possible that next year Ngrave might have big things.
In addition to features, utilities and security, I also care about brand origin and origin. Because I never trust Chinese-made devices, they are a danger in the future. I hope you will add more information about the origin of the device and place of production in the future. Thank you so much 👏👏👏
Haptic technology Haptic technology is technology that can create an experience of touch by applying forces, vibrations, or motions to the user. These technologies can be used to create virtual objects in a computer simulation, to control virtual objects, and to enhance remote control of machines and devices. Haptic devices may incorporate tactile sensors that measure forces exerted by the user on the interface.
The ones complaining about the fingerprint… maybe yall should wash yall dirty fingers or clean yall dirty fingerprints scanner on the device, or maybe yall finger placement sucks and yall not pressing down firmly…because I have had no problem with the finger print scan or the qr code. If the qr isnt scanning maybe get some better lighting or clean off your camera because again, the problems yall are experiencing, I dont have those problems and I own 2 NGrave Zeros.
Sure, some people don’t clean their device but not all finger print scanners are designed the same way. Their scanner has issues along with poor battery life. They do release updates to rectify the issues but the improvements aren’t anything to get excited about. Glad that your having a good experience but someone that owns almost every hardware wallet in the market, this unit may have a heavy steel case to show its robust but it has some design flaws that they will probably address in the next version. Let’s be honest and consumers make their own decision about the good and bad. Each hardware wallet has its plus and minus, unfortunately for the price they are charging this unit isn’t refined to the level it should be. The initial unit has lots of room for improvement needed to say it’s amazing. They lack basic functions in the application that works for novice users but not advanced users. It’s really designed to be long term storage but lacks staking capabilities. Probably why they are working on trust integration to gain more support. It just not worth what they are charging for the unit. Plus they are soo dam slow at rolling out any meaningful changes.
Tend to agree. It’s a good device but the battery is poor. Which is worrying long term. It’s not replaceable. The fingerprint sensor is also rubbish. They need to improve both for the price and for the next edition.
@@myyoutube5242 they’re do updates for the battery but as far as fingerprints, I haven’t had that problem on either one of my devices. Only problem I have is lack of coin support with one coin which they are in the process of adding. Im sure it’ll get better with time, money, and more firmware updates.
My problem in learning how to use the Keystone today is I don't know the JARGON you are using. I know it makes you credible to those that understand it, but I have to stop your video to look upwhat SIG is and what HAPTIC is. And Metamask site said 1) If you are running any fork of MetaMask other than the standard production fork, disable it now. Add FORK. I use metamask and not sure what they're talking about a fork for. To me, I understand "A fork off of Bitcoin" but never heard I used a fork with metamask. Maybe this type of thing is too difficult to define in a sentence. Not sure. Sometimes I feel like I'm trying to follow bad instructions that come with a build it yourself project.
I think I would understand, and more would, if you just gave a quick explain of what SIG and Haptic is. I know people can look it up, but that's frustrating and discouraging and it makes you wonder, how many more words will I need to look up. It seems like if I understood those words already, I wouldn't need to watch the video. It's part of what your teaching, too. But it's not getting taught by you but by a search engine. Not meaning to be mean, but that's MY feedback. I'm certain you analysis is very good.
Keystone Pro 3 issues: 1. It contains Bluetooth hardware, disabled through software. Red flag for an air-gapped device... 2. Many people report charging issues. Can only use device when plugged in.
@@Dale-11 wrong LOL, they confirmed they have a bluetooth chip. You can ask them yourself on their subreddit and they'll confirm. It's just disabled in software (which is still dumb for an airgapped device)
I feel 100% open source is more security than closed source. Keystone pro 3 is the winner
I couldn't find a review of the Coinkite Coldcard on your channel. Do you avoid them for some reason?
how is the battery on keystone pro 3 i read online that alot of people has problems with the battery dying not charging and after 5 6 month completely dead ? i wanted to buy this its open source and safe but if the battery is like that its a deal breaker.
I had my Ngrave for almost two years. The coin support is okay but the finger print reader and battery life is the worst out of any hardware wallet. I only use it for long term storage because it’s just not convenient for staking or more frequent transactions. Plus they have no desktop support.
@Transporter1668
Thanks for the input. I longed of getting a N-Zero but ended up with other alternatives like The K3Pro and the Ellipal 2.0.
By now, I’ll just wait for the next bull run . By that time, I believe that not only the price will have dropped but a new and improved version will be released by then.
2023 has seen so many new updated wallet releases from most of the manufacturers.
I think next year, NGRAVE will be next.
@@sharlawya6868
I got the Keystone pro and really like it myself, the only drawback is a native app. I am still waiting on the Titan to ship but looks like a great wallet too.
I use a coldcard for BTC, so I am looking for a hardware wallet for ETH
dam After this crazy ledger issue today, im glad to start looking for better wallets.
few weeks back i bought the trezor 3. Now i see this Keystone product. Looks very good!
What is your go to wallet now?
I just checked keystone official website
Keystone 3 pro have EAL6+ chip correct ????
Why aren’t there more RUclips reviews on this wallet? - you’re the only one with a video in the last 30 days.
Can you use your computer as well? Or do you have to use a cell phone?
Which one do you guys want? Let me know down below!
KEEVO
I haven’t touched my ngrave in so long lol 😂 does the camera still give problems, or did the firmware updates fix it? Because after the camera problems I was so turned off I just put the device away…
I still need to test the ''sending outs'' on my unit.
I am using it for a long term storage.
But from what people said....the camera is still not working properly.
I haven't had any issues with my camera on the keystone
I bought my ngrave 18 months ago and just opened it for the 1st time today and it won’t even power on… been charging it for an hour
Camera is beyond terrible
SIG (not special interest group) v. Multi-SIG = Multi-Signature (Device or System).
Multi-Signature
~ refers to the ability to require multiple private keys in order to transact a cryptocurrency transaction
I don't get how you have so few likes, views and subscribers considering the importance of learning about these devices. The only thing that would be better would be tutorials on how to use them. That doesn't get covered enough, especially with so many new investors coming into crypto. I appreciate your channel immensely. And why does RUclips demonetize you?
Zack Video suggestions: Keystone Pro 3 vs Trezor Safe 3 face off. Heads up comparison
its on its way!
@cryptorenegade I've been trying to get open cellular communication with you ever since NGRAVE ZERO COMBO $700 & shape shift keep key became available that I bought BOTH through your site but despite all my messages u never responded; so I moved on to spend my subscription 💰money & join many others. To bad financially for you your follow-through is so poor bc this goes back 2 years, but I watch you once & a while, but you disparaged my patronage.
Just opened my nGrave after buying it 18 months ago. And i can’t power it on after charging for over an hour.
Keystone got rid of their native application and recommended their users use a third-party wallet. This makes me feel they are not trying to collect data, and makes me trust them more.
Trezor or keystone?
The EL security categorisation is just a stamp and doesn't mean that Ngrave is more secure than the Keystone, especially that KS is "open source" and you don't have any proof for security of the NG!
How about the battery?
Keep in mind that I have both and I can say that the battery on the NGZ is not that good, period.
I have reviewed both on my channel, non-english review, so I know what I am talking about.
Battery def has room for improvement on both sides. Good news is, from a hardware standpoint, its not an issue. Most of these can be further optimized through software/firmware updates.
The keystone pro 3 👍
Exactly :)
Did you say Keystone requires importing the seed phrase on third party wallets? Are you sure? I mean if this is true, then why do I need a hardware if I still going to expose the seed phrase on a non-cold wallet?
You connect it like you would a Ledger or Trezor to MM or even better, Rabby wallet, NOT import seedhprase.
@@-zerocool-true. There is no seed phrase exposure whatsoever. I think I either misunderstood what Renegade said or he said something other than what he meant.
I bought both wallets and ended up returning the NGrave Zero and ordering another two Keystone 3 Pro.
It is impossible to justify the Zero price in the presence of 3 Pro to be honest
I suppose Audits are no joke, and it does take years to have something open source for what seems to be a small team. Patience on the Ngrave is key. Possible that next year Ngrave might have big things.
In addition to features, utilities and security, I also care about brand origin and origin. Because I never trust Chinese-made devices, they are a danger in the future. I hope you will add more information about the origin of the device and place of production in the future. Thank you so much 👏👏👏
Haptic technology
Haptic technology is technology that can create an experience of touch by applying forces, vibrations, or motions to the user. These technologies can be used to create virtual objects in a computer simulation, to control virtual objects, and to enhance remote control of machines and devices. Haptic devices may incorporate tactile sensors that measure forces exerted by the user on the interface.
You need to include the comparisons of sending out transactions, leaving a big part out, it’s deceiving people
Any update, buying soon
We need a comparison between tangem and satochip
NGRAVE cost $400 and the design look too boogie but NGRAVE have the latest EAL7 chip.
The ones complaining about the fingerprint… maybe yall should wash yall dirty fingers or clean yall dirty fingerprints scanner on the device, or maybe yall finger placement sucks and yall not pressing down firmly…because I have had no problem with the finger print scan or the qr code. If the qr isnt scanning maybe get some better lighting or clean off your camera because again, the problems yall are experiencing, I dont have those problems and I own 2 NGrave Zeros.
Sure, some people don’t clean their device but not all finger print scanners are designed the same way. Their scanner has issues along with poor battery life. They do release updates to rectify the issues but the improvements aren’t anything to get excited about.
Glad that your having a good experience but someone that owns almost every hardware wallet in the market, this unit may have a heavy steel case to show its robust but it has some design flaws that they will probably address in the next version. Let’s be honest and consumers make their own decision about the good and bad. Each hardware wallet has its plus and minus, unfortunately for the price they are charging this unit isn’t refined to the level it should be. The initial unit has lots of room for improvement needed to say it’s amazing. They lack basic functions in the application that works for novice users but not advanced users. It’s really designed to be long term storage but lacks staking capabilities. Probably why they are working on trust integration to gain more support.
It just not worth what they are charging for the unit. Plus they are soo dam slow at rolling out any meaningful changes.
Tend to agree. It’s a good device but the battery is poor. Which is worrying long term. It’s not replaceable. The fingerprint sensor is also rubbish. They need to improve both for the price and for the next edition.
@@myyoutube5242 they’re do updates for the battery but as far as fingerprints, I haven’t had that problem on either one of my devices. Only problem I have is lack of coin support with one coin which they are in the process of adding. Im sure it’ll get better with time, money, and more firmware updates.
great video, you say unfortunately because you are biased. lol 🙂
You love your zero to preserve your zeros.
My problem in learning how to use the Keystone today is I don't know the JARGON you are using. I know it makes you credible to those that understand it, but I have to stop your video to look upwhat SIG is and what HAPTIC is. And Metamask site said 1) If you are running any fork of MetaMask other than the standard production fork, disable it now. Add FORK. I use metamask and not sure what they're talking about a fork for. To me, I understand "A fork off of Bitcoin" but never heard I used a fork with metamask. Maybe this type of thing is too difficult to define in a sentence. Not sure. Sometimes I feel like I'm trying to follow bad instructions that come with a build it yourself project.
I think I would understand, and more would, if you just gave a quick explain of what SIG and Haptic is. I know people can look it up, but that's frustrating and discouraging and it makes you wonder, how many more words will I need to look up. It seems like if I understood those words already, I wouldn't need to watch the video. It's part of what your teaching, too. But it's not getting taught by you but by a search engine. Not meaning to be mean, but that's MY feedback. I'm certain you analysis is very good.
Just get Tangem….
MADE IN CHINA
Keystone Pro 3 issues:
1. It contains Bluetooth hardware, disabled through software. Red flag for an air-gapped device...
2. Many people report charging issues. Can only use device when plugged in.
1 wrong no Bluetooth.
2 the update has fixed this and now charges when turned off.
@@Dale-11 wrong LOL, they confirmed they have a bluetooth chip. You can ask them yourself on their subreddit and they'll confirm. It's just disabled in software (which is still dumb for an airgapped device)
@@hopinghope7892 na no Bluetooth on it son.
Making video destroy ngrave zero🗿
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