@@tylermills4818 a rare version of arbalist that is stronger and has more abilities. Both of them can do the volley though, barret's just does more damage
Hey! Nice one! Glad to see you took up the suggestion. The lost battalion in DD2 were suppose to stop the cultist from descending. They achieved their objective of killing the boss!
This suggests that, at least this particular trio, is of equal or greater strength as a full team of four heroes. It's quite interesting to me that perhaps a lot more monster mash-ups are actually designed as equals to the heroes. It's also reason to congratulate ourselves for beating them time and time again.
Yes they are designed to be more powerful than basic heroes. However that's only to compensate for the fact that it has an AI which can't possibly compete with humans.
Nah, they are designed to be controlled by AI that chooses random actions, sometimes stronger ones, sometimes weaker ones. So when they are controlled by a human he can just spam tha most op move/combo.
I like the idea that these three guys somehow remembered what their mission was before they got corrupted, and as a last big "fuck you", went ahead and avenged their friends and themselves.
It's funny and yet inspiring to see that any group of somewhat skilled beings can kill the final bosses of confessions. It means, that the virtue is not in being strong, but in being brave enough to dare the beast, that is feared by everyone else.
This gives me hope that one day each mob will be modded into being a playable character (with some limitations but those too can be fixed by some custom animations/art). Also love these vids!
@@alext.1244 I think it would make for a very fun PvP mode. Every player picks a faction and builds three teams out of a certain roster of units (for example only 1-2 big units, only 3 supporters etc.), places them in order and then battles the other player in a series of fights. First fight starts at the "border" between both players areas. The winner presses on to the opponents lairs entrance. If the attacking player wins, he presses on to the lairs inner area and on another victory to the boss area. If he loses the other player goes on the offensive. Damage at boss fights are saved between bouts (so if team 2 loses to the boss team 3 takes over where team 2 left) and the entire match ends either if one boss is defeated or both players have no teams left anymore with the winner being decided by how close it was to victory. Just a quick idea.
I hope in the near future you let the lost battalion fight with regular cultists. And if it's ok, just let them fight via AI? The thrill of sheer randomness is invigorating. Still, loving this fight though! Hoping to see more!
Probably some cultist magic that made the forest turn on the soldiers, corrupting them into undead (technically, since they can still bleed) and giving them no purpose but to stay and wait, essentially “giving up”.
The horror of the cult makes the Legion lethargic, if not they might even be able to fight the cultists off. They also have cannons in their arsenal, so yeah, it's rather lucky for the cultists of all people not needing to fight the Legion in its prime.
I think we can see this as an allegory for mentally difficult things being not so bad, if you try to take them on anyways Or maybe that undead zombies who don't need to worry about mental breakdowns and have barrels worth of adrenaline tonics would do well vs enemies that are half focused on mental damage Or maybe it's just that serrated bolt volley is a nasty skill, "where's an archer (crossbowman) when you need one" indeed
It would actually be kind of interesting if they introduced a hero that took up two spaces. Maybe the Crusader riding a horse or the Arbalest using a ballista.
I love these vids ! But I think it would be more fair and more interesting to not use Combat Items, they give too strong of an advantage, and enemies usually don't have them.
Accualy once you make it to The Mountain you can play "wihout stress". I mean sure meltdown on 100hp MAA still hits like a truck, but on less tanky and/or damaged heroes it's often less dangerous than simple crit
Hey sorry if you've already answered this, but how did you manage to make this work? Since the hero palettes have been added to the game, I haven't been able to mod enemies into my party without them just looking like heroes without any animations. Setting hero_palette to Null just makes the game crash. Whats your secret?
I'm not making big changes at all, I copy enemy data files from Actors folder when I encounter them, then paste into Actors folder in Boss fight, then write those enemy IDs instead of my heroes IDs in combat.json file. The way you were trying to do it would make them stay in roster, but overall task of difficult, I haven't go deep into making a completely working character so far, maybe with a better mod support I'll try it.
@@single-player Thx man, i already fixed the Drummer bi giving him "focus_fire_weak" (dont ask, idk how it works). It seems though that Exel does not provide any change's except for stats and tags, which means i cannot fix other enemies that dont not work for me, like Altar for example.
If I squint my eyes enough, I can imagine the Knight as Chad Reynauld. I miss the Crusader.
New dlc!!
He's back!!!
Makes you really appreciate how annoying drummers + arbalest is
That's not just any arbalest, that's freaking Bull's Eye Barrett.
@@nbewarwe sorry I'm newer to this game who is bullseye barret?
Ordained version of the Arbalest and a righteous pain in the ass. Remains in the backline and shoots arrows that does high damage.
@@tylermills4818 a rare version of arbalist that is stronger and has more abilities. Both of them can do the volley though, barret's just does more damage
@@tylermills4818 He's a stronger version of the arbalest. You can tell him apart by how his helmet covers up his whole face.
Hey! Nice one! Glad to see you took up the suggestion. The lost battalion in DD2 were suppose to stop the cultist from descending. They achieved their objective of killing the boss!
"Not even in death does our duty end"
Undead Reynault leading the charge to defeat the darkest dungeon a second time
This suggests that, at least this particular trio, is of equal or greater strength as a full team of four heroes. It's quite interesting to me that perhaps a lot more monster mash-ups are actually designed as equals to the heroes. It's also reason to congratulate ourselves for beating them time and time again.
Given the knight counts as 2, they are a team of four.
Yes they are designed to be more powerful than basic heroes. However that's only to compensate for the fact that it has an AI which can't possibly compete with humans.
I have to play devils advocate and say they had some powerful combat items for this fight.....
Still cool though I do agree
Nah, they are designed to be controlled by AI that chooses random actions, sometimes stronger ones, sometimes weaker ones. So when they are controlled by a human he can just spam tha most op move/combo.
Drummer usually gets one free action at the very start of every round so it would be even easier
I like the idea that these three guys somehow remembered what their mission was before they got corrupted, and as a last big "fuck you", went ahead and avenged their friends and themselves.
It's funny and yet inspiring to see that any group of somewhat skilled beings can kill the final bosses of confessions. It means, that the virtue is not in being strong, but in being brave enough to dare the beast, that is feared by everyone else.
I LOVE THIS CONCEPT! The Lost Battalion fighting through their curse to actually face the evil of the world!
I need to see this Trio against more bosses, they do such a good job
Really love how the enemies play basically the same as heroes and not like single-minded monsters.
This gives me hope that one day each mob will be modded into being a playable character (with some limitations but those too can be fixed by some custom animations/art). Also love these vids!
maybe a skill that makes mind controls enemies ?
@@Dd5yr5g thats wat I was thinking? or like summon ghost copies from corpses etc etc.
@@alext.1244 I think it would make for a very fun PvP mode.
Every player picks a faction and builds three teams out of a certain roster of units (for example only 1-2 big units, only 3 supporters etc.), places them in order and then battles the other player in a series of fights.
First fight starts at the "border" between both players areas. The winner presses on to the opponents lairs entrance. If the attacking player wins, he presses on to the lairs inner area and on another victory to the boss area. If he loses the other player goes on the offensive. Damage at boss fights are saved between bouts (so if team 2 loses to the boss team 3 takes over where team 2 left) and the entire match ends either if one boss is defeated or both players have no teams left anymore with the winner being decided by how close it was to victory.
Just a quick idea.
When the Dreamer awakens and realize that there is still hope.
Damn. If the Lost Batllion weren't undead, I would der how quickly the apocalypse could've been staved off.
Yeah the spell they trew at them was one of the biggest reasons the cultists were able to get theyr shit up and running.
Love that the drummer has a drum ready animation and sound! Among the top annoying monsters to fight, and also the top coolest animation and sound.
These are always such a blast to see, thanks a bunch for making them!
Mods are gonna be so good this gives me hope for them
If you're taking suggestions, how about Librarian VS General? Taproot on the books would be fun to see.
I haven't tried General, but that's a nice idea. I have couple other fights in line, but I'll definetely try General vs Librarian.
thats a bit unfair for the librarian, if the roots managed to hold the librarian he's dead.
They managed that fight pretty well id say
It helps that they don't have to manage Stress.
This is wierdly cathartic.
Amazing!! i cant wait for have mods in Darkest Dungeon 2, it will be very fun. And you gave an amazing concept, Great job!!
I hope in the near future you let the lost battalion fight with regular cultists. And if it's ok, just let them fight via AI? The thrill of sheer randomness is invigorating.
Still, loving this fight though! Hoping to see more!
I agree, I enjoy watching the AI do stuff a lil bit more, feels more natural
Can I just say the knight dude up front looks really cool!
I will be honest here, I would love to watch/run your full hourlong sessions in the background.
seeing this makes me wonder why they did give up in lore cause from what im seeing is they are more than capable
Probably some cultist magic that made the forest turn on the soldiers, corrupting them into undead (technically, since they can still bleed) and giving them no purpose but to stay and wait, essentially “giving up”.
What do you mean?
in-lore some kind of mass AOE spell was cast and basically zombified all of the soldiers, I think
The horror of the cult makes the Legion lethargic, if not they might even be able to fight the cultists off. They also have cannons in their arsenal, so yeah, it's rather lucky for the cultists of all people not needing to fight the Legion in its prime.
I think we can see this as an allegory for mentally difficult things being not so bad, if you try to take them on anyways
Or maybe that undead zombies who don't need to worry about mental breakdowns and have barrels worth of adrenaline tonics would do well vs enemies that are half focused on mental damage
Or maybe it's just that serrated bolt volley is a nasty skill, "where's an archer (crossbowman) when you need one" indeed
When the army deployed to stop the spreading stain actually stops the spreading stain
Drummer had the fight...
On lockdown
Great fight, thanks again! To be honest, stun resistance carried this fight. Im looking forward to the next video)
This fits because they were supposed to stop the cultists
drummers and arbalests are harder to take care of than some of the damn bosses.
It would actually be kind of interesting if they introduced a hero that took up two spaces. Maybe the Crusader riding a horse or the Arbalest using a ballista.
I love thèse videos
plague eaters vs swine next
I'd like to see a sort of round robin of each faction (non-boss) eventually.
Makes you wonder why the battalion could not stop the cultists' descent before they were "forgotten"
Spell that turned them undead. They were too much of a threat for the cultist to ignore.
They are finally doing their job!! Instead of sleeping on The' job... ;)
Hey I'd love to see you make a guide of how to do this cause this looks pretty fun and would like to try it out myself to mess around.
I'll make a guide when official mod support reliases, current modding is not "stable". I'm basically changing save file content but not the game.
Free actions, the fight
I love these vids ! But I think it would be more fair and more interesting to not use Combat Items, they give too strong of an advantage, and enemies usually don't have them.
Yes, a lot of folks seem to be missing that they used adrenaline tonics that restore 50% of HP. Without those this would have been a full-party wipe.
....Whatever did happen to the Crusader and Arbalest, anyway?
If you are taking suggestions, how about Fanatics versus the leviathan (fire versus water).🤔
This one is a high priority fight, I was working on it and planning to publish one in 2 days.
Love these vids, better and more exciting than playing the game.
Seeing the enemies mirrored is still kinda weird :D Still an entertaining video!
ngl having a two-slot character would be badass
I wonder what happens if you try to fight the final boss with enemy’s, specifically the gimmick it has at third phase
This makes me realize that without stress the game is so easy
Accualy once you make it to The Mountain you can play "wihout stress". I mean sure meltdown on 100hp MAA still hits like a truck, but on less tanky and/or damaged heroes it's often less dangerous than simple crit
is this a mod, that lets you play as the lost battalion?
Just a temporary replacement. Sadly it's impossible now to use them in a coach for entire campaign.
nice
Hey sorry if you've already answered this, but how did you manage to make this work? Since the hero palettes have been added to the game, I haven't been able to mod enemies into my party without them just looking like heroes without any animations. Setting hero_palette to Null just makes the game crash. Whats your secret?
I'm not making big changes at all, I copy enemy data files from Actors folder when I encounter them, then paste into Actors folder in Boss fight, then write those enemy IDs instead of my heroes IDs in combat.json file.
The way you were trying to do it would make them stay in roster, but overall task of difficult, I haven't go deep into making a completely working character so far, maybe with a better mod support I'll try it.
@@single-player Ahh okay, I didn't think about editing the combat.json folder. Thanks for sharing!
Plague eaters vs lost battalion would be cool.
Goats Vs Everything.
@@Bloodlyshiva solo Goat vs final boss LOL
just thinking do you put the skill symbols yourself or they just look like that in the files
They look like that in the files
Those icons were in the files, they aren't untuitive most of the time, but it's better that nothing.
@@single-player ok thx
If the knight and arbelist died, even if you were controlling it, would the drummer use "Death before dishonour" automatically?
Not automatically, but that would be the only skill possible to use.
How did you made Drummer be able to use his Focus Fire? I cant make mine use those.
Don't remember exactly what I did, some skills may not work correctly on the left side and require corrections in source files.
@@single-player where to find those "source" file's though?
@@uhbif7776 Epic Games DIRECTORY\DarkestDungeonII\Darkest Dungeon II_Data\StreamingAssets\Excel\
lost_battalion_drummer_data_export.Group.csv
@@single-player Thx man, i already fixed the Drummer bi giving him "focus_fire_weak" (dont ask, idk how it works). It seems though that Exel does not provide any change's except for stats and tags, which means i cannot fix other enemies that dont not work for me, like Altar for example.
Do they normally have the healing items? It's fun but seems like an ubfair comparison thay they get a free action with heals
They don't have items usually, but they got better prepared for the boss fight.
Alot of bosses are nerfed without the stress damage mechanic.
So basically you are telling me that just a bunch of regular enemies is more dangerous than this boss? Got it.
BRUH volt volley is too op
These shackles: no heal turn 1 no stuns.
My shackles: no ranged on 2 first turns, stun on my melee dps and healer. Next turn no heal and killing blow.
Auto pls
Wby do they havr heals? The lost battalion dont have heals
Adrenaline Tonics
Thats a bit of cheating since they didn't supposed to use items