Grabbed one after the price-drop to upgrade my 2600 CPU system and have noticed immediate improvements across the board. Glad to see I wasn't taken for a ride on this upgrade path.
@@itzdjyar really eh for me its the total opposite I have all settings low on valorant and get 150fps and 40fps in rust if im lucky. forget about streaming at the sametime lmao
I'm loving this cpu with my 3070. I'm getting great fps in a lot of games. My 3600 severed me well but had some damaged pins giving me issues. All in all its great getting good fps in 1440p ultra settings. 👌
@@nlkg7942 I got mine overclocked quite a bit. Results may vary but I think I got a golden silicone. As for which games I play mostly Elden Ring, Destiny 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, MK 11, Minecraft RTX(not maxed), cyberpunk, Resident Evil 2 remake and a bunch of random stuff. On MSI afterburner my settings: 50% core voltage, core clock +130MHz, memory clock +1000 MHz, power limit 100%, Temp limit 90c. Set a custom fan curve for best results. Also it may be different for the TI model since I believe it's already overclocked but I'm sure you can squeeze some power out of it.
With increases fuel prices in the UK, I was going to go with a 12900k however the 65w tdp for pretty much the same 1440p performance and up, is just worth it
Big factor in my choice too. Got the 5700x for £150, sealed in box. 12400 Is around £200, was doubting my choice for a while but not anymore. May take a change on a £375 3070 on eBay and hopefully let the good times roll 🙂
Picked up the r5 5600x today! I have been waiting to upgrade my r5 2600 and get a few more frames out of 2070 super. thank for releasing content on an "aging" chip.
That's awesome, man! I hope you're stoked to get your hands on that beast, it's going to blow away your expectation's IMO. And sure, dude, just because a chip has been out for a while doesn't mean it's not still worth considering!
@@Karnage24 It has been great. No complaints and I noticed a nice boost to fps as well as boot time. Not night and day differences but for example pubg on max settings was around 90ish fps and now is 120ish. Call of duty(modernwarfare) was 110ish and is now closer to 120ish. all rough numbers and I was not overly concerned with fps just wanted a more modern chip and mobo.
Thought id subscribe since its nice to see a fellow South African. Plus, thank you, i just bought this chip since be 7000 series require a full upgrade
I still have my 5600X along with a 2070 and it's an absolute beast at 1080p. And the 16GB ram at 3600mhz CL16 really make a difference. I only use it for gaming so I think I will keep this CPU for at least my next GPU purchase. It will still pair amazing with a RTX3080
@@NeonLine1982 for example I just installed Far Cry 6 and with all details crancked to ultra, and Fidelity X enabled I get 95-100 fps constantly. In general I can run everything new AAA game on high-ultra details above 90 fps. But still the bottleneck is the GPU. The CPU can handle much more
Im a bit amazed how in your gaming benchmarks i5 12400f won everything, in most cases I see that in most games ryzen actually gets better gaming performance, however you also chose a lot of games also that are better on intel to be fair
I was confused too, had to triple-verify my results and methodology to make sure I wasn't missing anything but I didn't find any issues. From the reviews I've watched and read, Intel's 12th gen has the upper hand in more titles overall than Ryzen, but obviously that'll vary depending on the reviewer/s. I'm sure you don't mean it in that way, but I didn't "choose" games that run better on Intel. I've been using the same games in my benchmarks for a long time now since older games tend to be more stable and reliable, and I try to get as good of a mix in there as possible since I can't afford to buy them all.
I think that the 5600x is one of the best CPUs ever. It can be cooled by its stock cooler. The low watt consumption means that it will last many years and will have few issues with stability. It does well in gaming and also in applications (that benefit from single core and multi core alike). It's price is as of writing very good and the same goes for compatible motherboards. Only when Intel provides forward compatible motherboards which will make (in the long term) them become available at a great price as many can chose an older gen AMD motherboard like the B450 socket. My only concern is for those who are into video editing and would hugely benefit from the igpu of Intel that provides Quick Sync.
Agreed 100%. I've been using Ryzen CPUs with no iGPU for video editing for the past couple of years, and I can't say I've felt held back at all, so not sure Quick Sync is that much of a benefit...
@@vemprite5698 The 12400 is an excellent choice. NOT to be confused with the 12400F which has its iGPU disabled. The 12400 is at a good price and I presume that the "new 14th gen" launch will cause the prices for the 12th and 13th generation to drop. Moreover the 12400 does not draw many watts and is easily cooled. The iGPU of 12th gen Intel can do wonders. For a budget GPU you can consider the Intel a380 or the new a580 but if you enjoy gaming go for NVIDIA and make sure the GPU has a wide memory bus (the recent RTX 4060 and RTX 4060 Ti have a very narrow memory bus)
I just bought it new at 160euros in promotion. Upgraded from 2600 with 5700xt it is incredible, on some games like Horizon I went from 101 avg to 140 avg. On some games there is less difference like Borderlands 3 with only 10/15 fps gain
It's an awesome CPU and I love it, never had it bottleneck no matter what game I threw at it, never had any issues at all. I was lucky enough to get it before the crazy silicone shortage so there is that. One of the high points was its low power needs as my PC is constantly running so I always keep low power hardware in mind. The stock cooler btw is total garbage, get aftermarket, even a cheap off brand cooler will do a better job than the fan included in the kit.
I think I should run a poll to see how many people keep power consumption in mind when it comes to their PC hardware. I always figured most people don't care but then I see people like you chime in so I wonder how many people fall into each camp... And yeah, stock coolers in general are usually pretty garbage, but they'll at least keep you up and running until you can upgrade so I think it's still a nice value-add.
My stock cooler has kept my pc under 70c while on games like tarkov, ready or not, insurgency, plus elden ring etc. Its doing the job but I do keep my tempered glass off for fresh air intake until I can upgrade and get more fans.
Am in between this one and ryzen 7 5700g, r5 5600x it's just abit faster for games right now and also cheaper but r7 5700g has 8 cores and 65 euros more expensive, not sure what to do lol
This performance isnt in line with the results hardware unboxed got where the 5600X outperformed 12400 in gaming in general. And often with quite the margin. I wonder what could differ? Did you run the memory with XMP only? Stock coolers?
Benchmark numbers will differ a lot depending on the reviewer. No one will ever have numbers that are too similar, and if they do then it's a bit sus. As for why, it could be down to any number of things. I suspect in my testing the difference came down to the 12400 being run with DDR5 as stated in the video, and the motherboard's boosting features left enabled. The memory and motherboard are the only differences between the systems I used, so it's likely that. However it could also come down to older versions of games vs newer versions (which I usually account for), the choice of games with some being better optimized for one platform or the other (I just test the games I own), an older version of Windows vs a newer version (I always ensure both are updated to the latest but you never know), and a bunch of other small details that could impact results without reviewers even noticing. I'm happy with the validity of my results as I looked at other reviewers' and quite a few of them had similar numbers.
Wasn't the Hardware Unboxed numbers very close though? I think the conclusion was that as far as those two CPUs go it depends on what platform you prefer. I think the Intel CPU is somewhat cheaper.
@@TheTechTank yes, there are just too many variables when it comes to system builds and testing. There is no real 100% accurate testing out there. Thus, reviewing multiple sources of benchmarks and then combining them all together and coming up with an average of the collected data would give more realistic numbers. At the end of the day, both are great platforms and it comes down to the budget and what the system is mainly used. Long are gone those days when Intel was dominating the CPU market 2006 - 2017.
Congrats, man! The 5600X is an amazing chip for a first build. Really rooting for you to find a decently-priced GPU soon, hoping prices go down a little more over the coming months.
I have three 5600X and two 5600 and a single 5600G in the home with the first 5 on x570 and G on B550 in the shop. I have all the gen4 ports I could need so I likely will keep these in use for at least 4 more years as they are Media, Family and Shop PC's. Before my Ryzen builds starting in 2020 I had random dated hardware throughout the house. These upgrades were very affordable and I can't see how basic browsing and gaming will not do well for at least 4 more years.
Just picked up mine for 180 with tax. Saw instant improvements from my r7 3700. Didn’t really care for much of an upgrade. Just wanted better frames in less optimized games on a budget
Just built my first PC, and I'm running the 5600X with a Radeon 6950XT. I crank The Outer Worlds to max settings and receive nothing close to stuttering/noticeable struggling. Beam NG Drive also performs dang near flawlessly
While one year ago the 5600x was $230, on amazon of today its $156 now. It makes sense though because newer processors keep coming out which lowers the prices for these older processors. I've seen the reviews on amazon and man 5 stars that's crazy. this is the next processor I'm going to get along with 32GB Patriot Viper Elite Ram and an EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 KO Ultra Gaming. I currently have an AMD Ryzen 3 3100. This processor does pretty good but I bought it used and want to buy the 5600x next. My Current GPU is a EVGA GeForce GTX 1060. Still a great GPU. Would recommend the 1060 for anyone on a budget. My ram isn't that great but its because I mistakenly bought the 8GB pack instead of the 16GB which was on sale at the time and around the same price for the 8GB. By the way Nice Video!
Appreciate it! This chip really has just gotten better and better with each new price drop, and it's going to be a huge upgrade over your R3. I had a 1060 for years and that thing was a beast that can still hold its own at 1080p even today!
The 1060 is still a good low-medium sometimes high settings 1080p card, but I would still never recommend that card today. You can get a 1070, 1080, 1080ti, 2060, or a 2080 all for $100-220. You could even get a Rx 580-590 for the same $80-100 as the 1060 these days and have 8gb of ram
I just got a 5600X for under 200€, Indecided against 12th gen, because I'd get DDR5 with it which would drastically increase the price and more than negate the difference in price here (175€ for the i5 here and 200-225€ for the Ryzen) So I decided to stick with DDR4 and get a Ryzen instead of basically "wasting" potential the i5 has or having to get DDR5 and a more expensice MB. I've been putting off getting a new PC for so long that its reached a point where I basically have to get one as soon as possible. Otherwise I'd have waited another year or two for DDR5 and DDR5 compatible boards to come down in price as that would be whole different story if getting the MB and DDR5 were equally as expensive as getting the MB and DDR4 for Ryzen. As I said I don't see the point in running a 12th Gen Intel with DDR4, of course it can do that quite well but why waste potential?
Totally understand where you're coming from, and you make a valid point. I just don't personally see running a 12th-gen chip with DDR4 as "wasted potential". Primarily because in a lot of the testing I've seen, the difference between DDR4 and 5 is often almost negligible for the time being due to DDR5's high latency, and it'll take another year or two before we see that latency come down significantly.
The 12400 sounds great. Would probably get one if I hadn't already bought a B550 board LoL I'm hopeful that April will bring good deals on AMD CPU's though what with all of the new launches. The 5800x has come down in price near me so it is tempting. Would you recommend it over the 5600x? I've got the Asus B550-E for it's CPU upgrade potential but was thinking of going with an APU for the time being as this will be a kids' PC.
dont forget 5800x runs hotter, if you don't already have a good 2nd hand cooler. I was also tempted buying 5800x but honestly it will be of no benefit for playing games, basically not worth it unless you know it is.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j True. The 5600x seems like the best deal for a gaming PC. And now GPU prices are dropping a bit so it might make more sense than a 5700G.
Would also recommend waiting to see what the 5600's performance looks like before deciding. At the very least I suspect even more price drops will come around the time when that launches. Oh, and you should only really consider the 5800/5700X if you can get them for a great deal, and plan to use the system for more than just gaming.
conclusion seems clear. If building from scratch go with Intel. If you can spare a new mobo purchase by reusing your existing Ryzen mobo and just buy the new chip, then stick with 5600x. That's what I plan on doing at least (upgrading my CPU with the same AX370 motherboard). If I was building from scratch I'd probably stick with the i5.
There are of course other considerations that weren't mentioned. The addition of b350, a320, and x370 boards now getting updates to be able to support 5000 series the cost of entry for a 5000 series system if you are willing to go used is way lower than the potential cost of entry of a 12th gen system. And even if Intel does give a second generation of support for the socket that's only one generation of upgrade path. So it's not as if that's a huge selling point. What would likely make a lot more sense from a future perspective would be to buy into a cheap b350 system now. Use it until you feel it's no longer meeting your needs. Then when it's time to upgrade again even if that's only two years down the road you'll be upgrading into a place where ddr5 is more affordable and you might have some storage solutions that can actually take advantage of the PCIE 5.0 on the boards.
Cost is a huge thing. I got a 5600 non x 2 days ago to upgrade from my 5820k. A cpu made in 2014…. Huge upgrade! I’m liking it so far and for a new CPU, mobo and ram it cost me $450 out the door. Hard to beat that. The i5 12400 would’ve costed me about $100-$150 more for what seems to be not much more performance.
@@exturkconner How do you know? What if they start changing sockets every generation. There is no guarantee that AMD will keep AM5 for 5 years. Also Intel upgrade path exists from 12 to 13 gen. And what if 14th Gen slots into socket 1700, that's another economical upgrade path.
@@jasonking1284 I mean they said it would be active for several generations and considering that am4 lasted even longer then they said it would I think it's a solid bet.
Appreciate that, man! Yeah I struggled with the audio on this one as I'd just gotten the Sennheiser MKE 600 and it was my first time ever working with a shotgun mic. I'm still trying to perfect the audio even now like a year later 🤣
Got this for $140 at micro center with the $50 off coupon. Had a 2nd pc with a 3070 that was getting bottlenecked tough with a shitty 9th gen i3. Now that pc is smooth as butter.
got a 5600x for $189 converted incl. shipping from my local online shop. the best thing about this is, I just sold my old R5 3600 for $170 so I'm spending just about $19 for a good upgrade that will last me until I'll go for a 5800X3D by end of year if prices get cut. AM4 will last me a very long time then after
Did you notice improvement in overall performance? I got a deal for the 5600x but I’m currently sitting on a 3600, don’t know if I made the right decision. Upgrade for me was 25usd though.
I have a B450 motherboard for 2.5 years. I had a Ryzen 7 2700x in it and I replaced it not too long ago for a Ryzen 5 5600x, because I bought an RTX 3080 and it was bottlenecked in 1440p. After I upgraded the BIOS and put the new Ryzen 5 5600x into the machine the RTX 3080 started to show it's real power in 1440p. With a 240mm AiO I was able to set all cores to 4.7 ghz and the games even smoother.
I have a similar experience b450 with 2700x but i buyed a 3060, nervertheless I got very satisfied 1080p gaming, 90-100 fps on Control full RT with dlss, horizon down zero i get 125 on bench with dlss and 105 without, on cyberpunk 2077 i get 60fps with some RT on, you can check Digital Foundry
@@johnybispoo9115 I watch every DF videos. Though the RTX 3080 could push out avarage 66 fps at the Ultra RT preset with Quality DLSS. CP2077 the best looking game that I’ve ever played.
@@hemichesidahmed3300 Yes. You have to update. You need a CPU which works with the current BIOS, I assume it is a Ryzen 2000 series one. Download the latest BIOS file from the motherboard's website. Put it on a USB flash drive and update it from the UEFI. Then the motherboard should work with the Ryzen 5 5600x. It isn't a hard task, though if you never did before you can brick your mobo, so if you are not sure 100% what you do, ask for a help.
It's still a good bang for the buck unlike the 7600x which was like 300 bucks a year ago, even the 12400F was much cheaper and better value for the money.
So I just upgraded last night from a Ryzen 3 2200G to this cpu. Which I will hold true to having been the best choice for trying to budget. Since MB and all other components work fine with it. Just wish I had the affordability to get some of the higher end stuff xD
The 12400 needs to be the better chip as its a newer chip. One thing that makes the 5600x attractive is the fact it still uses the AM4 socket. 12th gen Intel chips need a mobo upgrade which adds to the cost of the chip. Stiil, Intel have upped their game which is good for the industry and competition. Cant help but feel AMD is still ahead of the curve and will be for a while.
Yes sir, new builders would benefit more by going Intel right now, but if you're already in the AM4 ecosystem it just makes sense to stick with Ryzen. Happy to see competition like this in the industry again.
G SKILL FLARE X CL14 3800mhz 4x8 Samsung b-die sweet spot 1900flck on a Asus rog strix b350-f gaming with the latest bios on a Ryzen 5 5600x.Timmings of cl14-14-14-28-42 at 1.5volts stable no errors memtest86 3 days. Just enabled PBO2 everything set to auto and I see 2 cores boosts to 4.75ghz no cpu boosts are nothing just enable PBO2 temps are great though idle is 25-32c and at full load when gaming is 60c. tops.
Hi Tank, I do not know how good of a value it is now since AMD just announced that they'll release the 5600 and 5500. Both are on 7nm but the 5500 is like the 5600G, without the APU built in and it is only PCIE Gen 3 while the 5600 has Gen 4 support. Yes AMD announce those CPU's.
Hey! Oh damn, they really did just officially announced those chips, lol. While I was editing this video today it was all still just "rumors". Doesn't change the value proposition for the 5600X all that much as far as I can tell. The new chips are filling gaps in AMD's current market, not replacing any of the existing current-gen chips. The 5600X should still outperform both the 5600 and 5500, and if it's by enough then it should still be worthwhile.
I have the Ryzen 5 3600 and I would like to upgrade to a 5600 X or G but I don't which one to choose, which one do you recommend? My pc components are: - MB Asus Rog Strix B450B - Asus GTX 1650 Phoenix - Crucial Ballistix DDR4 2400 4x8gb (32gb) - HDD 2T Seagate - EVGA psu 750w
I wouldn't recommend upgrading to the 5600, 5600X, or 5600G. The 3600 is still great for gaming, and you're not going to see nearly a big enough improvement to make upgrading worth it, IMO. If I had to choose though, I'd personally go for the recently launched 5600.
From south africa myself. Your accent is to die for by the way. I just picked up a 5600 for R3800 and an asus b550 tuf wi fi for R2500. To be honest. The mobo made my decision for me. I'm not spending R5800 for a 12600K and then R3500 for a compatible mobo.
Thanks! I usually only get negative comments about my accent (like I'm the one who chose it, lol). Dang, sounds like you got quite the deal on that chip and board, where did you buy them? And yeah, 12600K doesn't make a whole lot of sense with our SA pricing.
Hello, I have a question, I am trying to build a PC, but I don't know if I should buy this CPU or another, because I would like to upgrade it in the future with a better CPU when I have the money. What should I do?
Depends on the budget you're working with. If you get the 5600X you can upgrade to the 5800X3D sometime down the road, but that'll be your only real option. AM5 and Ryzen 7000 is your only option right now with a good future upgrade path, but it's pricy.
I switched from Intel to AMD. I used Intel I3; then I used a motherboard socket AM4 for the 5000X series and updated it to socket AM5 for the 7000X series. Intel doesn't give the full power threads that AMD gives for gaming. Ideal for office-orientated stuff, but when you want something powerful you will need AMD. However, their problem is that they require a lot of power, and if you don't have a sufficient cooling system it might get problematic.
Hi im new to your channel and browsing some of your videos, just want to ask if you upgrade 2700 to 5600x is it worth it?or should i get 3700x? beside from gaming i used my pc for work as well. appreciate your reply more power to your channel, by the way i like how you do your bencmarks and explanation.
Appreciate that so much, man! I wouldn't personally upgrade from the 2700 to the 5600X or the 3700X for that matter. You'd get slightly better gaming performance with the 5600X, but probably less performance in work tasks, and the 3700X wouldn't be a big enough improvement to warrant the upgrade cost. If you do need an upgrade down the line, I wouldn't personally go lower than the new 5700X.
I bought r5 5600x in 2022 and I come to say I don't realize I have several answers, and I play with 60fps and it's fluid and I also play economy in the power options.....and it only has 6 cores and 12 threads and I don't have performance drops and fps in the economy, will have more years in high performance.......I don't understand your answers I will keep this processor until 2030, THIS CPU IS AMAZING
@@diobrando5620 i5 12600 seem like offer better performance but the motherboards are much more expensive while you can get 5600x which is still a very powerful cpu with x370 or even 350 mobo for cheaper price so it is up to you, if you want max performance then go with 12600 and if you want price/performance then 5600x
@@deaneyle3940 That is correct. I am using GIGABYTE B660 AORUS MASTER DDR4 for 12600 and the price seems to be quite reasonable, at least from where I am from as compared to other available MB.
Hello Friend. Fellow South African here. Do you think the 5600x stands up now , 7 months after this video was uploaded, by todays standards? You even said the price was R4800 for it back then, its about R3000 - R4000 now depending on where you get it so the price is even cheaper
Hey man, always cool to see someone else from SA in my comments. The 5600X still more than holds its own. The new chips from AMD and Intel are way too expensive for the performance you'll be getting, especially if you need a motherboard and RAM upgrade too. The 12400 is also still a good option, and you'll be able to upgrade to the 13th gen when prices drop.
Nice review. Can you please help me tweak those Crucial Ballistix RGB ram modules? lolll I cant make them change pattern or even present light as expected! how do you control them?
Thanks! Sure, the first thing you need to do is install the Ballistix MOD utility and upgrade the drivers. After that you should be able to control the lights with that software, or whatever lighting software you're already using.
@@TheTechTank Well, the software is no longer supported by Crucial themself. they got it down from their website and I found a place to try and use it but with no success. Its just wont work right.
@@TaLBLIzZaRd Oh, I see all of their links to the MOD utility just defaults to the 3D printing thing. Very strange. I looked around for a bit and it sounds like a few people are having success using the Armory Crate software from ASUS. Have you had an success with MSI's lighting software (that's what I'm using currently and I don't have any issues)?
I just bought one of these today. I got it for $213 USD. Im not upgrading from a different Ryzen, but an i5 4570 in an old Optiplex 3020 so I already know it will be enough for every game I play.
Nice video. Building a new system rn is super interesting and I've been getting a bunch of people asking for spec recommendations. What's the most interesting is that motherboard pricing is now even more important than cpu pricing because both intel and AMD have such strong mid range offerings. (Also minor grip... why isn't wifi included on all motherboards in 2022)
Not gonna lie, I'm really, really tempted to get an Intel system up and running for myself, and I haven't been able to say that in years. And nail on the head there, the motherboard options have become amazing recently. Literally a board for any chip, at almost any reasonable price point, and each board has a feature set that'll be perfect for specific people. It's a great time to be building a system, or at least it would've been if GPU prices weren't still screwed. I don't really mind boards without WIFI, personally. I'd almost always take a non-WIFI board over one with WIFI as long as the price is also lower because of it. And clearly a lot of other people feel the same or it would be standard across all boards by now, lol.
@@nathanwells896 It's the fastest, most stable route to take if you can, but unfortunately some people's living situations don't allow them to plug directly into Ethernet and wireless is their only option.
I’m at a crossroad. I game a lot, and stream on twitch. Should I keep my R5 5600x and get 2x16 gb of RAM. Or should I upgrade to the R9 5900x and keep the 2x8 gb of RAM I have now? I have a an RTX 3070 and use nvec encoder for streams.
That's a tough one since you'll benefit from a RAM and CPU upgrade if you're streaming. Since it's the cheaper option I'd start with the RAM. Get the 32GB kit, then sell your current kit to help cover the cost of a future CPU upgrade if you feel like you need it.
Hey, thinking of upgrading my 3600 for the 5600X, currently on an ASUS ROG Strix B550-F with RTX 3070 and a Noctua NH-U9S on my 3600. The old fan still good for the 5600x? (2 years old now). Or would I benefit more if I step up to 5800X? (only gaming on my PC)
Your old cooler should still be totally fine regardless of what you upgrade to. For gaming exclusively, I would get the 5600X and spend the extra cash elsewhere.
Question I have a 3700x I'm not looking to upgrade to AM5 and get a new motherboard or RAM. What I would like to know is would a 5600x or 5700x be a good upgrade when what I do is mostly gaming with a 6700xt
Either of those would be a good upgrade for you. I just wouldn't personally upgrade from the 3700X to anything less than the 5800X3D - would be far more worthwhile.
Hey dude! Yeah you've really been slacking, tbh 😂 Just kidding, I appreciate you dropping by regardless of how quickly you jump on that notification, lol. Ooh, going from the 2600 to the 5600X would be a very worthwhile upgrade, or even the non-X version when that launches ("if" it launches).
Unfortunately for a lot of people the price difference (however small) between these chips is impossible to justify, otherwise they'd for sure go with the highest-end chip available.
Ryzen 5000 series + Windows 11 and tpm2 issue is going to be fixed on May. For me, thats a reason to buy something else now or just wait. Ps. 1080p? Isn't time already to move on to 2k res (1140p)?
I tested on Windows 10 since that's what all of the other CPUs were tested on, so I don't think there was an issue there. As for 1080p, the reason we benchmark CPUs at 1080p is to ensure that the CPU rather than the GPU is the bottleneck. If the GPU was the bottleneck in a CPU review, you're basically just benchmarking the GPU at that point and not the CPU. That's why in GPU reviews (including my own) you'll see results for 1440p and 4K along with 1080p.
Im not entirely sure what your methodology for testing is but there is a massive variance with your results compared to the majority of reviews. Might be doing something wrong bud. Perhaps precision boost overdrive not enabled? Although, that wouldnt make that much of a difference.
cant help but wonder what the performance would be for the 12400 on DDR4, im looking at upgrading at at the current price of DDR5 im likely going to have to settle for DDR4, awesome Video though
The F chips are a fantastic value if you already have a GPU. I'd personally only get an F-chip if I was going to do an Intel build. As for the B660 boards, those are great too, but I wish they were priced a little closer to the B550 boards...
Hi Tank, amazing content I’m from South Africa as well, is it possible to assist me with a build, I have a B550m-k prime motherboard and 750 power supply, gigabyte RTX3080 and H115 Corsair AIO, what ram do you think will be the best and what’s the safest overclock I can put on my CPU?
Hey dude, it was fun helping you out on stream, I hope my advice helped point you in the right direction. If you have any more questions or need advice on anything, feel free to ask in the Discord. Safest overclock for a 5600X is as high as you can go while keeping temps in check and without the system crashing. I usually do an all-core overclock of 100MHz above the max clock speed of the chip with voltage at 1.425. That's usually stable and doesn't max out the temps.
Just ordered one too for $188 with tax but that’s insane for the value I kinda wanted 8 cores but for gaming lightweight streaming and web browsing 6 cores is more than enough and I have a laptop to handle additional editing anyway
So I bought a ryzen 5600 to replace a mishap with a cooler change :D I feel the X is just a gimmick and your better taking the non ex and slapping a really good 360 AIO on it with the extra money. My reasoning behind this. My 5600 with a 360 cooler and +200mhz overdrive on results in the following cinebench 23 score with crappy cl16 3200 mhz corsair memory. multi 11886 - single 1522. The listed cinebench r23 score for a 5600x is multi 11710 - single 1536. So by hitting a few buttons in bios Im already out performing it. Either I got lucky on silicon or the 5600 is just a 5600x getting moved before the values are totally gone.
Getting this thing for 150 bucks, right after upgrading from the 4770k to a Ryzen 2700 not a month ago, is insane. Just too good of an offer when my crap GA-A320-S2H supports 5000 processors with the new bios. Got an X570-A Pro on the way to replace it either way.
I really need help! I’m trying to get my first pc for Christmas and I don’t know if the 5600x is a good part! Please let me know if this is a good choice to make for my pc to have the 5600x
I mainly game on ps5, and use series X and switch occasionally. I have a gaming pc that I use only for total war Warhammer games. I haven't upgraded it for some years now. Currently I have a i7 4770k and I want to upgrade to a 5600X is it worth it? or should I go for something else?
The Warhammer games do tend to rely on CPU performance, so I'd say it's worth it. But you should only ever upgrade your PC parts if you're unhappy with the performance you're getting.
Would you say this is worth upgrading to from a i5-9400f to a ryzen 5 5600x? I mostly want to upgrade to take more advantage of pci 4 and faster ram since my current mobo is holding me back. Also I notice in newer games the i5 keeps hitting 100% usuage and I think its holding back my rx 6600 xt since usuage will be at like 60-80 in some games for gpu and with cpu hitting 100 ect.
I'd hold off on upgrading until next-gen stuff launches, but if you can't then it would definitely be a worthwhile upgrade (especially with holiday sale prices).
@The Tech Tank I was hoping sometime soon I'd finally upgrade my 1060 to a 3060ti, will my ryzen 5 3600x cpu hold back the performance of the 3060ti or will I need to get a 5600x aswell for a more stable performance ?
@@TheTechTank thanks, i actually found a palit 3060ti for £530, its pricey but not a bad choice at all considering gpu's has been out of stock for a rediculously long time lol, hopefully i can get it within a few weeks since the site im looking at allows payment over monthly fee (Awd-it) before it goes out of stock.
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I bought the 5600x last month for my new system and this cpu is a true beast, every game runs so smooth on highest settings no problem at all
what motherboard are you using ?
I'm using the Aorus B550 Elite
@@stefan6768 did you flash bios?
Did you use xmp??
It's Worth it
Grabbed one after the price-drop to upgrade my 2600 CPU system and have noticed immediate improvements across the board. Glad to see I wasn't taken for a ride on this upgrade path.
Nice! Yip, going from the 2600 to this is a BIG improvement, glad to hear you're enjoying the upgrade!
what graphic card you got cause i got the 2600 with the gtx 1650 and it sucks and i want to upgrade but idk if its worth it :S
@@EhMoose619 I have an RTX 3060. I found it wasn't a bad match for the 2600 in gaming, I upgraded to help with work, video recording, and editing.
@@itzdjyar really eh for me its the total opposite I have all settings low on valorant and get 150fps and 40fps in rust if im lucky. forget about streaming at the sametime lmao
@@EhMoose619 probably, buying gpu is better idea
I'm loving this cpu with my 3070. I'm getting great fps in a lot of games. My 3600 severed me well but had some damaged pins giving me issues. All in all its great getting good fps in 1440p ultra settings. 👌
I can't play every game on ultra with 3070ti :( which games do you play
@@nlkg7942 I got mine overclocked quite a bit. Results may vary but I think I got a golden silicone. As for which games I play mostly Elden Ring, Destiny 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, MK 11, Minecraft RTX(not maxed), cyberpunk, Resident Evil 2 remake and a bunch of random stuff.
On MSI afterburner my settings:
50% core voltage, core clock +130MHz, memory clock +1000 MHz, power limit 100%, Temp limit 90c. Set a custom fan curve for best results. Also it may be different for the TI model since I believe it's already overclocked but I'm sure you can squeeze some power out of it.
I don’t know everything about pcs but I think that your graphics card isn’t being pushed to its limits you need a better cpu but what do I know
@@nlkg7942 i can i have a 3070ti with a 5600x and i have no problem on any game
Just bought the r5 5600x and broke 4 pins in the corner of the cpu and im not haveing any poat on the monitors but everything is spining
With increases fuel prices in the UK, I was going to go with a 12900k however the 65w tdp for pretty much the same 1440p performance and up, is just worth it
Big factor in my choice too. Got the 5700x for £150, sealed in box. 12400 Is around £200, was doubting my choice for a while but not anymore. May take a change on a £375 3070 on eBay and hopefully let the good times roll 🙂
Picked up the r5 5600x today! I have been waiting to upgrade my r5 2600 and get a few more frames out of 2070 super. thank for releasing content on an "aging" chip.
That's awesome, man! I hope you're stoked to get your hands on that beast, it's going to blow away your expectation's IMO. And sure, dude, just because a chip has been out for a while doesn't mean it's not still worth considering!
Right on! I just upgraded to a RTX 3070 / Ryzen 5600x from a GTX 1660TI / Ryzen 1700x so I’m pretty excited to see it in action!
How have you found the upgrade from the R5 2600? I also have the R52600 and I am thinking of upgrading to the 5600x.
@@Karnage24 It has been great. No complaints and I noticed a nice boost to fps as well as boot time. Not night and day differences but for example pubg on max settings was around 90ish fps and now is 120ish. Call of duty(modernwarfare) was 110ish and is now closer to 120ish. all rough numbers and I was not overly concerned with fps just wanted a more modern chip and mobo.
Thought id subscribe since its nice to see a fellow South African. Plus, thank you, i just bought this chip since be 7000 series require a full upgrade
Appreciate it, brother! Yeah, the new-gen stuff just isn't worth it right now when the old-gen is still extremely viable and way cheaper.
I still have my 5600X along with a 2070 and it's an absolute beast at 1080p. And the 16GB ram at 3600mhz CL16 really make a difference. I only use it for gaming so I think I will keep this CPU for at least my next GPU purchase. It will still pair amazing with a RTX3080
Hi! I'm planning on buying the same CPU soon and I have the same GPU and ram.
I'm wondering how much FPS do you get with that set up?
@@NeonLine1982 for example I just installed Far Cry 6 and with all details crancked to ultra, and Fidelity X enabled I get 95-100 fps constantly. In general I can run everything new AAA game on high-ultra details above 90 fps. But still the bottleneck is the GPU. The CPU can handle much more
Bought a discounted Ryzen 5 5600x with a used xc3 3080. It’s unbelievable at 3440x1440p ultrawide.
@@elacme626 hey are you using the stock cooler for the cpu
@@noirsumptious No, I never tried it. I bought a aftermarket cheap deepcool cooler. Worls like charm. Never got more than 65 degrees in stress tests.
Im a bit amazed how in your gaming benchmarks i5 12400f won everything, in most cases I see that in most games ryzen actually gets better gaming performance, however you also chose a lot of games also that are better on intel to be fair
I was confused too, had to triple-verify my results and methodology to make sure I wasn't missing anything but I didn't find any issues. From the reviews I've watched and read, Intel's 12th gen has the upper hand in more titles overall than Ryzen, but obviously that'll vary depending on the reviewer/s. I'm sure you don't mean it in that way, but I didn't "choose" games that run better on Intel. I've been using the same games in my benchmarks for a long time now since older games tend to be more stable and reliable, and I try to get as good of a mix in there as possible since I can't afford to buy them all.
^I'm not Im ^Intel not intel
@@CalintzJerevinan546 nobody fucking cares
12th gen is better in gaming tbh... has been since launch.
@@CalintzJerevinan546 no one genuinely gives a shit
I think that the 5600x is one of the best CPUs ever. It can be cooled by its stock cooler. The low watt consumption means that it will last many years and will have few issues with stability. It does well in gaming and also in applications (that benefit from single core and multi core alike). It's price is as of writing very good and the same goes for compatible motherboards. Only when Intel provides forward compatible motherboards which will make (in the long term) them become available at a great price as many can chose an older gen AMD motherboard like the B450 socket. My only concern is for those who are into video editing and would hugely benefit from the igpu of Intel that provides Quick Sync.
Agreed 100%. I've been using Ryzen CPUs with no iGPU for video editing for the past couple of years, and I can't say I've felt held back at all, so not sure Quick Sync is that much of a benefit...
Thanks!
What would you recommend for video editing on heavy programs like after effects and blender?? The cpu I mean?
@@vemprite5698
The 12400 is an excellent choice. NOT to be confused with the 12400F which has its iGPU disabled. The 12400 is at a good price and I presume that the "new 14th gen" launch will cause the prices for the 12th and 13th generation to drop. Moreover the 12400 does not draw many watts and is easily cooled. The iGPU of 12th gen Intel can do wonders. For a budget GPU you can consider the Intel a380 or the new a580 but if you enjoy gaming go for NVIDIA and make sure the GPU has a wide memory bus (the recent RTX 4060 and RTX 4060 Ti have a very narrow memory bus)
I just bought it new at 160euros in promotion. Upgraded from 2600 with 5700xt it is incredible, on some games like Horizon I went from 101 avg to 140 avg. On some games there is less difference like Borderlands 3 with only 10/15 fps gain
A great upgrade, congrats!
It's an awesome CPU and I love it, never had it bottleneck no matter what game I threw at it, never had any issues at all. I was lucky enough to get it before the crazy silicone shortage so there is that. One of the high points was its low power needs as my PC is constantly running so I always keep low power hardware in mind. The stock cooler btw is total garbage, get aftermarket, even a cheap off brand cooler will do a better job than the fan included in the kit.
I think I should run a poll to see how many people keep power consumption in mind when it comes to their PC hardware. I always figured most people don't care but then I see people like you chime in so I wonder how many people fall into each camp... And yeah, stock coolers in general are usually pretty garbage, but they'll at least keep you up and running until you can upgrade so I think it's still a nice value-add.
@@TheTechTank it's one of the reasons I went with amd over Intel and nvidia for my newest build. 5600x paired with a 6600xt
My stock cooler has kept my pc under 70c while on games like tarkov, ready or not, insurgency, plus elden ring etc. Its doing the job but I do keep my tempered glass off for fresh air intake until I can upgrade and get more fans.
Just bought one. Excellent CPU for the price right now.
Am in between this one and ryzen 7 5700g, r5 5600x it's just abit faster for games right now and also cheaper but r7 5700g has 8 cores and 65 euros more expensive, not sure what to do lol
This performance isnt in line with the results hardware unboxed got where the 5600X outperformed 12400 in gaming in general. And often with quite the margin. I wonder what could differ? Did you run the memory with XMP only? Stock coolers?
Benchmark numbers will differ a lot depending on the reviewer. No one will ever have numbers that are too similar, and if they do then it's a bit sus. As for why, it could be down to any number of things. I suspect in my testing the difference came down to the 12400 being run with DDR5 as stated in the video, and the motherboard's boosting features left enabled. The memory and motherboard are the only differences between the systems I used, so it's likely that.
However it could also come down to older versions of games vs newer versions (which I usually account for), the choice of games with some being better optimized for one platform or the other (I just test the games I own), an older version of Windows vs a newer version (I always ensure both are updated to the latest but you never know), and a bunch of other small details that could impact results without reviewers even noticing. I'm happy with the validity of my results as I looked at other reviewers' and quite a few of them had similar numbers.
Wasn't the Hardware Unboxed numbers very close though? I think the conclusion was that as far as those two CPUs go it depends on what platform you prefer.
I think the Intel CPU is somewhat cheaper.
@@TheTechTank yes, there are just too many variables when it comes to system builds and testing. There is no real 100% accurate testing out there. Thus, reviewing multiple sources of benchmarks and then combining them all together and coming up with an average of the collected data would give more realistic numbers. At the end of the day, both are great platforms and it comes down to the budget and what the system is mainly used. Long are gone those days when Intel was dominating the CPU market 2006 - 2017.
The 5600x comes out of the box with a low base speed. Overclocking is almost necessary to judge ryzen v intel
Thanks, perfect timing with this video, R5 5600X just had a big price drop so I can finally upgrade from my I5-6500 that's been holding back my GPU
Same here I had I5 7400 lol now got 5600x for my new 2080 ti lol
Nice! Congrats to both of you on the upgrade! The 5600X is going to blow you away for years to come.
@@kinetickhaos6144 Same, but getting an 3070 ti.
Yeah it’s $199 now
Just bought the 5600x for my first build ever. Hopefully I can manage to find a gpu sometime over the summer that isn't insanely over msrp😂
Congrats, man! The 5600X is an amazing chip for a first build. Really rooting for you to find a decently-priced GPU soon, hoping prices go down a little more over the coming months.
how much u payed?
@@exioz99 around 200 hundred dollars. There was a sale on new egg not sure if it is still there.
@@noahlewis1123 ok nice. I found a deal for around 210. Not sure if I should buy it or waint
@@exioz99 not going to get much lower than that so I would just buy it if that is the cpu you are set on
I have three 5600X and two 5600 and a single 5600G in the home with the first 5 on x570 and G on B550 in the shop. I have all the gen4 ports I could need so I likely will keep these in use for at least 4 more years as they are Media, Family and Shop PC's. Before my Ryzen builds starting in 2020 I had random dated hardware throughout the house. These upgrades were very affordable and I can't see how basic browsing and gaming will not do well for at least 4 more years.
i just got it in the mail yesterday and i dont think i regret buying it (also you the goat for still responding to comments to this day 🔥)
😂 You don't think you regret it? How much did you spend?
@@TheTechTank $157, but I haven’t been able to test it out and stuff yet so I don’t really know, but from what I heard it’s awesome
I got one a few weeks ago on prime day, $112
I bought this puppy on Amazon during the Black Friday deal - $150. I snagged that puppy!!
Just picked up mine for 180 with tax. Saw instant improvements from my r7 3700. Didn’t really care for much of an upgrade. Just wanted better frames in less optimized games on a budget
Assuming you're outside the US then since it's $160 on Amazon right now. It's about $200 here in South Africa 😅
thanks im trying to build a computer and this helped me find a part
Happy I could help!
Just built my first PC, and I'm running the 5600X with a Radeon 6950XT. I crank The Outer Worlds to max settings and receive nothing close to stuttering/noticeable struggling. Beam NG Drive also performs dang near flawlessly
Got a Pc being made for me rn with this, and a 3060. Hoping it all runs well
I bought 5600x on Aliexpress for like $190 I'm glad that I have it now, I had a I7 3770k pain in the ass. but now with that ryzen, I'm very happy :D
Nice, that's a very good upgrade!
While one year ago the 5600x was $230, on amazon of today its $156 now. It makes sense though because newer processors keep coming out which lowers the prices for these older processors. I've seen the reviews on amazon and man 5 stars that's crazy. this is the next processor I'm going to get along with 32GB Patriot Viper Elite Ram and an EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 KO Ultra Gaming. I currently have an AMD Ryzen 3 3100. This processor does pretty good but I bought it used and want to buy the 5600x next. My Current GPU is a EVGA GeForce GTX 1060. Still a great GPU. Would recommend the 1060 for anyone on a budget. My ram isn't that great but its because I mistakenly bought the 8GB pack instead of the 16GB which was on sale at the time and around the same price for the 8GB. By the way Nice Video!
Appreciate it! This chip really has just gotten better and better with each new price drop, and it's going to be a huge upgrade over your R3. I had a 1060 for years and that thing was a beast that can still hold its own at 1080p even today!
The 1060 is still a good low-medium sometimes high settings 1080p card, but I would still never recommend that card today. You can get a 1070, 1080, 1080ti, 2060, or a 2080 all for $100-220. You could even get a Rx 580-590 for the same $80-100 as the 1060 these days and have 8gb of ram
Got the this r5 5600x for 180usd here in PH upgrading from r5 2600, man it amazes me my b450 still supports it. No need to change the motherboard
Man, those Ryzen boards are the gift that keeps on giving. I hope AMD takes the same approach with the next generation!
I just got a 5600X for under 200€, Indecided against 12th gen, because I'd get DDR5 with it which would drastically increase the price and more than negate the difference in price here (175€ for the i5 here and 200-225€ for the Ryzen)
So I decided to stick with DDR4 and get a Ryzen instead of basically "wasting" potential the i5 has or having to get DDR5 and a more expensice MB.
I've been putting off getting a new PC for so long that its reached a point where I basically have to get one as soon as possible. Otherwise I'd have waited another year or two for DDR5 and DDR5 compatible boards to come down in price as that would be whole different story if getting the MB and DDR5 were equally as expensive as getting the MB and DDR4 for Ryzen.
As I said I don't see the point in running a 12th Gen Intel with DDR4, of course it can do that quite well but why waste potential?
Totally understand where you're coming from, and you make a valid point. I just don't personally see running a 12th-gen chip with DDR4 as "wasted potential". Primarily because in a lot of the testing I've seen, the difference between DDR4 and 5 is often almost negligible for the time being due to DDR5's high latency, and it'll take another year or two before we see that latency come down significantly.
The 12400 sounds great. Would probably get one if I hadn't already bought a B550 board LoL I'm hopeful that April will bring good deals on AMD CPU's though what with all of the new launches. The 5800x has come down in price near me so it is tempting. Would you recommend it over the 5600x? I've got the Asus B550-E for it's CPU upgrade potential but was thinking of going with an APU for the time being as this will be a kids' PC.
dont forget 5800x runs hotter, if you don't already have a good 2nd hand cooler. I was also tempted buying 5800x but honestly it will be of no benefit for playing games, basically not worth it unless you know it is.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j True. The 5600x seems like the best deal for a gaming PC. And now GPU prices are dropping a bit so it might make more sense than a 5700G.
@@QueertyUCR just wait for 5600, same performance (basically) for $60-90 less
Would also recommend waiting to see what the 5600's performance looks like before deciding. At the very least I suspect even more price drops will come around the time when that launches. Oh, and you should only really consider the 5800/5700X if you can get them for a great deal, and plan to use the system for more than just gaming.
Save thirty dollars and just get the 5600. You are literally paying for the letter x on the end.
Refer to gamers nexus benchmarks.
conclusion seems clear. If building from scratch go with Intel. If you can spare a new mobo purchase by reusing your existing Ryzen mobo and just buy the new chip, then stick with 5600x. That's what I plan on doing at least (upgrading my CPU with the same AX370 motherboard). If I was building from scratch I'd probably stick with the i5.
Yip, perfect summary right there.
There are of course other considerations that weren't mentioned. The addition of b350, a320, and x370 boards now getting updates to be able to support 5000 series the cost of entry for a 5000 series system if you are willing to go used is way lower than the potential cost of entry of a 12th gen system. And even if Intel does give a second generation of support for the socket that's only one generation of upgrade path. So it's not as if that's a huge selling point. What would likely make a lot more sense from a future perspective would be to buy into a cheap b350 system now. Use it until you feel it's no longer meeting your needs. Then when it's time to upgrade again even if that's only two years down the road you'll be upgrading into a place where ddr5 is more affordable and you might have some storage solutions that can actually take advantage of the PCIE 5.0 on the boards.
Cost is a huge thing. I got a 5600 non x 2 days ago to upgrade from my 5820k. A cpu made in 2014…. Huge upgrade! I’m liking it so far and for a new CPU, mobo and ram it cost me $450 out the door. Hard to beat that. The i5 12400 would’ve costed me about $100-$150 more for what seems to be not much more performance.
Intel 12 Gen is still significantly cheaper entry than 7000 series Ryzen.
@@jasonking1284 But that investment in an expensive AMD platform could see you have several generations of upgades going forward unlike intels 1.
@@exturkconner How do you know? What if they start changing sockets every generation. There is no guarantee that AMD will keep AM5 for 5 years. Also Intel upgrade path exists from 12 to 13 gen. And what if 14th Gen slots into socket 1700, that's another economical upgrade path.
@@jasonking1284 I mean they said it would be active for several generations and considering that am4 lasted even longer then they said it would I think it's a solid bet.
great video dude, just a tip, i think the mic volume is too high - a notch lower would be nicer its dominating
Appreciate that, man! Yeah I struggled with the audio on this one as I'd just gotten the Sennheiser MKE 600 and it was my first time ever working with a shotgun mic. I'm still trying to perfect the audio even now like a year later 🤣
Got this for $140 at micro center with the $50 off coupon. Had a 2nd pc with a 3070 that was getting bottlenecked tough with a shitty 9th gen i3. Now that pc is smooth as butter.
I got mine for 90 6 months ago and built around it a new pc.
That's an incredible deal, well done!
got a 5600x for $189 converted incl. shipping from my local online shop. the best thing about this is, I just sold my old R5 3600 for $170 so I'm spending just about $19 for a good upgrade that will last me until I'll go for a 5800X3D by end of year if prices get cut. AM4 will last me a very long time then after
That worked out awesome for you, man, congrats!
Did you notice improvement in overall performance? I got a deal for the 5600x but I’m currently sitting on a 3600, don’t know if I made the right decision. Upgrade for me was 25usd though.
I have a B450 motherboard for 2.5 years. I had a Ryzen 7 2700x in it and I replaced it not too long ago for a Ryzen 5 5600x, because I bought an RTX 3080 and it was bottlenecked in 1440p. After I upgraded the BIOS and put the new Ryzen 5 5600x into the machine the RTX 3080 started to show it's real power in 1440p. With a 240mm AiO I was able to set all cores to 4.7 ghz and the games even smoother.
I have a similar experience b450 with 2700x but i buyed a 3060, nervertheless I got very satisfied 1080p gaming, 90-100 fps on Control full RT with dlss, horizon down zero i get 125 on bench with dlss and 105 without, on cyberpunk 2077 i get 60fps with some RT on, you can check Digital Foundry
@@johnybispoo9115 I watch every DF videos. Though the RTX 3080 could push out avarage 66 fps at the Ultra RT preset with Quality DLSS. CP2077 the best looking game that I’ve ever played.
hi do i need to upgrade bios i have tuf b450 gaming-plus? and i want to get the ryzen 5 5600x and is it hard or can i do it myself
@@hemichesidahmed3300 Yes. You have to update. You need a CPU which works with the current BIOS, I assume it is a Ryzen 2000 series one. Download the latest BIOS file from the motherboard's website. Put it on a USB flash drive and update it from the UEFI. Then the motherboard should work with the Ryzen 5 5600x. It isn't a hard task, though if you never did before you can brick your mobo, so if you are not sure 100% what you do, ask for a help.
@@PeterPauls okay thanks a lot i will try and update it
Yes. It’s amazing. And for reference, I play games like Chivalry 2 on max settings and have zero issues.
It's still a good bang for the buck unlike the 7600x which was like 300 bucks a year ago, even the 12400F was much cheaper and better value for the money.
So I just upgraded last night from a Ryzen 3 2200G to this cpu. Which I will hold true to having been the best choice for trying to budget. Since MB and all other components work fine with it. Just wish I had the affordability to get some of the higher end stuff xD
Is changing cpu a hassle?
@@ryann1635 If you're on a tight budget, yeah. They're not cheap.
5600x is now 130
Love the video. Was able to get a 5600x at microcenter for $160 at microcenter. It was $210 but found a $50 off coupon.
Thanks man! That is one hell of a deal you got there, damn!
Fast forward… 5600x is now $159 pretty much everywhere. How does it compare in price to performance now?
The 12400 needs to be the better chip as its a newer chip. One thing that makes the 5600x attractive is the fact it still uses the AM4 socket. 12th gen Intel chips need a mobo upgrade which adds to the cost of the chip. Stiil, Intel have upped their game which is good for the industry and competition. Cant help but feel AMD is still ahead of the curve and will be for a while.
Yes sir, new builders would benefit more by going Intel right now, but if you're already in the AM4 ecosystem it just makes sense to stick with Ryzen. Happy to see competition like this in the industry again.
G SKILL FLARE X CL14 3800mhz 4x8 Samsung b-die sweet spot 1900flck on a Asus rog strix b350-f gaming with the latest bios on a Ryzen 5 5600x.Timmings of cl14-14-14-28-42 at 1.5volts stable no errors memtest86 3 days. Just enabled PBO2 everything set to auto and I see 2 cores boosts to 4.75ghz no cpu boosts are nothing just enable PBO2 temps are great though idle is 25-32c and at full load when gaming is 60c. tops.
Dream DDR4 setup.
Hi Tank,
I do not know how good of a value it is now since AMD just announced that they'll release the 5600 and 5500. Both are on 7nm but the 5500 is like the 5600G, without the APU built in and it is only PCIE Gen 3 while the 5600 has Gen 4 support. Yes AMD announce those CPU's.
Hey! Oh damn, they really did just officially announced those chips, lol. While I was editing this video today it was all still just "rumors". Doesn't change the value proposition for the 5600X all that much as far as I can tell. The new chips are filling gaps in AMD's current market, not replacing any of the existing current-gen chips. The 5600X should still outperform both the 5600 and 5500, and if it's by enough then it should still be worthwhile.
@@TheTechTank the 5600x will be a bit faster compared to 5600 than 3600x was of 3600 (basically nothing).
Worth $20 more max.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j virtually worth nothing more. You are paying for the letter x on the end.
I just upgraded from a g4560. Huge improvement is an understatement
Oh dang, man! That's one hell of an improvement indeed! I bet you're loving it, lol.
i snagged one the very day the price changed. so seeing all this content about how exciting that pricing is feels good.
Gotta love the sweet sweet purchase validation, lol. Good job on holding out for so long, you snagged it at probably the best time.
@@TheTechTank sick a** upgrade from i7 4790 too. Got a sweet Sleeper optiplex now
I have the Ryzen 5 3600 and I would like to upgrade to a 5600 X or G but I don't which one to choose, which one do you recommend?
My pc components are:
- MB Asus Rog Strix B450B
- Asus GTX 1650 Phoenix
- Crucial Ballistix DDR4 2400 4x8gb (32gb)
- HDD 2T Seagate
- EVGA psu 750w
I wouldn't recommend upgrading to the 5600, 5600X, or 5600G. The 3600 is still great for gaming, and you're not going to see nearly a big enough improvement to make upgrading worth it, IMO. If I had to choose though, I'd personally go for the recently launched 5600.
Just picked one up for $129 new to replace my 3300x. Pairing with a 6700xt, expecting a 10-15 fps boost in most games, hope I'm right!
I bought my 5600x the first week of May for 199.00 on Amazon, and it's awesome!
From south africa myself. Your accent is to die for by the way.
I just picked up a 5600 for R3800 and an asus b550 tuf wi fi for R2500. To be honest. The mobo made my decision for me. I'm not spending R5800 for a 12600K and then R3500 for a compatible mobo.
Thanks! I usually only get negative comments about my accent (like I'm the one who chose it, lol).
Dang, sounds like you got quite the deal on that chip and board, where did you buy them? And yeah, 12600K doesn't make a whole lot of sense with our SA pricing.
Hello, I have a question, I am trying to build a PC, but I don't know if I should buy this CPU or another, because I would like to upgrade it in the future with a better CPU when I have the money. What should I do?
Depends on the budget you're working with. If you get the 5600X you can upgrade to the 5800X3D sometime down the road, but that'll be your only real option. AM5 and Ryzen 7000 is your only option right now with a good future upgrade path, but it's pricy.
I had the i7 8700k for awhile so this is a big upgrade
Big upgrade for sure. Respect for that 8700K, thing was a beast back in the day.
I just end with my build 5600x with 4060ti on ultra settings bf,crysis ,red dead redemption 2 run awesome
Really great mid-range system you've got there, enjoy it!
@@TheTechTank this is actually my first build i was used only laptops till now
I switched from Intel to AMD. I used Intel I3; then I used a motherboard socket AM4 for the 5000X series and updated it to socket AM5 for the 7000X series. Intel doesn't give the full power threads that AMD gives for gaming. Ideal for office-orientated stuff, but when you want something powerful you will need AMD. However, their problem is that they require a lot of power, and if you don't have a sufficient cooling system it might get problematic.
Making this jump from a ryzen 1400 to a 5600x and a asus b350m-a to a MSi gaming plus b550 hoping to see nice gains
Can pretty much guarantee that you're going to see huge gains coming from the 1400, congrats on the upgrade!
@@TheTechTank thank you love the vids
@@TheTechTank what’s your thoughts on the jonsbo cr1100 cpu cooler
I've never actually worked with a Jonsbo product before, so I can't really say, but that one doesn't look like a bad pick for the price.
Hi im new to your channel and browsing some of your videos, just want to ask if you upgrade 2700 to 5600x is it worth it?or should i get 3700x? beside from gaming i used my pc for work as well. appreciate your reply more power to your channel, by the way i like how you do your bencmarks and explanation.
Appreciate that so much, man! I wouldn't personally upgrade from the 2700 to the 5600X or the 3700X for that matter. You'd get slightly better gaming performance with the 5600X, but probably less performance in work tasks, and the 3700X wouldn't be a big enough improvement to warrant the upgrade cost. If you do need an upgrade down the line, I wouldn't personally go lower than the new 5700X.
I got mine for 158 bucks and amazon has it for 144 bucks right now for the money it’s a steal 😎🤙🏾
Great video man. I have the 5600x and love it but just keep wondering how it stacks up now and if I should upgrade
Appreciate it! If you're mainly gaming then there's absolutely no reason to upgrade any time soon.
Good video, glad i found you.
Appreciate it!
I bought r5 5600x in 2022 and I come to say I don't realize I have several answers, and I play with 60fps and it's fluid and I also play economy in the power options.....and it only has 6 cores and 12 threads and I don't have performance drops and fps in the economy, will have more years in high performance.......I don't understand your answers I will keep this processor until 2030, THIS CPU IS AMAZING
Sorry bud, but I have no idea what you're trying to say. It's a great chip that I'm sure you'll be happy with for a long time.
The 5600x is now under $150 so.. that is a Steal right now
I got one for 100 bucks. From some dude on OfferUp.
I upgraded from a Ryzen 3 2200g... HUGE HUGE DIFFERENCE.
I have AMD 5600x and Intel 12600 non-K. They are great for heavy spread sheet work and gaming.
Which is better in your opinion? i5-12600 or Ryzen 5 5600x?
@@diobrando5620 i5 12600 seem like offer better performance but the motherboards are much more expensive while you can get 5600x which is still a very powerful cpu with x370 or even 350 mobo for cheaper price so it is up to you, if you want max performance then go with 12600 and if you want price/performance then 5600x
@@diobrando5620 12600 is slightly better. CPU heat is more stable (i am using same fan cooler model for both CPU).
@@deaneyle3940 That is correct. I am using GIGABYTE B660 AORUS MASTER DDR4 for 12600 and the price seems to be quite reasonable, at least from where I am from as compared to other available MB.
@@edmundgoh8935 i heard it gets hotter then the ryzen 5 5600x?
Hello Friend. Fellow South African here.
Do you think the 5600x stands up now , 7 months after this video was uploaded, by todays standards?
You even said the price was R4800 for it back then, its about R3000 - R4000 now depending on where you get it so the price is even cheaper
Hey man, always cool to see someone else from SA in my comments.
The 5600X still more than holds its own. The new chips from AMD and Intel are way too expensive for the performance you'll be getting, especially if you need a motherboard and RAM upgrade too.
The 12400 is also still a good option, and you'll be able to upgrade to the 13th gen when prices drop.
@@TheTechTank thank you for your time and response
Bought it for $158 from Best Buy. Upgraded from Ryzen 7 2700, what a huuuge difference it made lmao.
Now I just need to upgrade my gpu 😅
That's a pretty great deal, congrats! Yeah I'd hold off on that GPU upgrade until at least early next year, lol.
thanks for the vid
Thanks for watching, man 🤘
i’m actually waiting on a liquid cooled Alienware Aurora R10 with one of these Ryzen 5 5600X and i look forward to it
Nice review.
Can you please help me tweak those Crucial Ballistix RGB ram modules? lolll
I cant make them change pattern or even present light as expected! how do you control them?
Thanks! Sure, the first thing you need to do is install the Ballistix MOD utility and upgrade the drivers. After that you should be able to control the lights with that software, or whatever lighting software you're already using.
@@TheTechTank Well, the software is no longer supported by Crucial themself. they got it down from their website and I found a place to try and use it but with no success.
Its just wont work right.
@@TaLBLIzZaRd Oh, I see all of their links to the MOD utility just defaults to the 3D printing thing. Very strange. I looked around for a bit and it sounds like a few people are having success using the Armory Crate software from ASUS. Have you had an success with MSI's lighting software (that's what I'm using currently and I don't have any issues)?
@@TheTechTank first of all thanks for you checking :)
and yeah, I cant find the modules on the MSI mystic light.
The Ryzen 5 5600X is only 235 euros in europe and its a beast ! i have never seen it having trouble atleast on what i play
That's a damned decent price!
Now it down to €159.99 it a no brainer if you are upgrading from a lesser Ryzen generation.
I just bought one of these today. I got it for $213 USD. Im not upgrading from a different Ryzen, but an i5 4570 in an old Optiplex 3020 so I already know it will be enough for every game I play.
Oh for sure, dude, It think you'll be blown away by the performance of this thing! And that's one heck of a price too, great job.
Nice video. Building a new system rn is super interesting and I've been getting a bunch of people asking for spec recommendations.
What's the most interesting is that motherboard pricing is now even more important than cpu pricing because both intel and AMD have such strong mid range offerings.
(Also minor grip... why isn't wifi included on all motherboards in 2022)
Not gonna lie, I'm really, really tempted to get an Intel system up and running for myself, and I haven't been able to say that in years. And nail on the head there, the motherboard options have become amazing recently. Literally a board for any chip, at almost any reasonable price point, and each board has a feature set that'll be perfect for specific people. It's a great time to be building a system, or at least it would've been if GPU prices weren't still screwed.
I don't really mind boards without WIFI, personally. I'd almost always take a non-WIFI board over one with WIFI as long as the price is also lower because of it. And clearly a lot of other people feel the same or it would be standard across all boards by now, lol.
@@nathanwells896 It's the fastest, most stable route to take if you can, but unfortunately some people's living situations don't allow them to plug directly into Ethernet and wireless is their only option.
I plan on building a PC this month for my birthday so yeah imma buy it.
Nice! Happy birthday indeed!
Should out to sa. Nice review bro thanks . Much respect . Gevaarlik
Ey! Haha, appreciate the support, man! Dankie dankie.
I’m at a crossroad. I game a lot, and stream on twitch. Should I keep my R5 5600x and get 2x16 gb of RAM. Or should I upgrade to the R9 5900x and keep the 2x8 gb of RAM I have now? I have a an RTX 3070 and use nvec encoder for streams.
That's a tough one since you'll benefit from a RAM and CPU upgrade if you're streaming. Since it's the cheaper option I'd start with the RAM. Get the 32GB kit, then sell your current kit to help cover the cost of a future CPU upgrade if you feel like you need it.
I plan to get this cpu, I have a 1660ti, is it a good match or would it be better to get a new gpu
Not a bad match at all, but depending on what CPU you have, getting a better GPU instead might be smarter (for gaming).
Just got mine for a little over 100 bucks. Insane price to performance ratio
where do you get over 100 bucks? I am looking for one? what kind of motherboard do you use? thanks
@@longtrinh6866 Amazon has em 50% off. I have a b450 however I would look into getting a 550 instead.
Hey, thinking of upgrading my 3600 for the 5600X, currently on an ASUS ROG Strix B550-F with RTX 3070 and a Noctua NH-U9S on my 3600. The old fan still good for the 5600x? (2 years old now). Or would I benefit more if I step up to 5800X? (only gaming on my PC)
Your old cooler should still be totally fine regardless of what you upgrade to. For gaming exclusively, I would get the 5600X and spend the extra cash elsewhere.
Question I have a 3700x I'm not looking to upgrade to AM5 and get a new motherboard or RAM. What I would like to know is would a 5600x or 5700x be a good upgrade when what I do is mostly gaming with a 6700xt
Either of those would be a good upgrade for you. I just wouldn't personally upgrade from the 3700X to anything less than the 5800X3D - would be far more worthwhile.
Can this do emulation well? Want a chip that can handle xbox and xbox 360 emulation.
I haven't been this early in a while, looking to upgrade my ryzen 5 2600😭
Hey dude! Yeah you've really been slacking, tbh 😂 Just kidding, I appreciate you dropping by regardless of how quickly you jump on that notification, lol. Ooh, going from the 2600 to the 5600X would be a very worthwhile upgrade, or even the non-X version when that launches ("if" it launches).
I doing research to do my first build.. I fed up with laptop... I need more power on a budget
Go R7 5800X or 5800X3D (if you have the money for the latter crazy expensive) this way you stretch the life of AM4 to the max!
You're in luck then. Lots of great budget options to choose from nowadays, as long as you don't include a dedicated graphics card.
Unfortunately for a lot of people the price difference (however small) between these chips is impossible to justify, otherwise they'd for sure go with the highest-end chip available.
Ryzen 5000 series + Windows 11 and tpm2 issue is going to be fixed on May. For me, thats a reason to buy something else now or just wait.
Ps. 1080p? Isn't time already to move on to 2k res (1140p)?
I tested on Windows 10 since that's what all of the other CPUs were tested on, so I don't think there was an issue there. As for 1080p, the reason we benchmark CPUs at 1080p is to ensure that the CPU rather than the GPU is the bottleneck. If the GPU was the bottleneck in a CPU review, you're basically just benchmarking the GPU at that point and not the CPU. That's why in GPU reviews (including my own) you'll see results for 1440p and 4K along with 1080p.
Im not entirely sure what your methodology for testing is but there is a massive variance with your results compared to the majority of reviews. Might be doing something wrong bud. Perhaps precision boost overdrive not enabled? Although, that wouldnt make that much of a difference.
cant help but wonder what the performance would be for the 12400 on DDR4, im looking at upgrading at at the current price of DDR5 im likely going to have to settle for DDR4, awesome Video though
I've been curious about that myself. Definitely plan to test it as soon as I get my hands on the gear.
Went with the 12400f. A lot cheaper and it's only couple percent worse than the 5600X.
Also the B660 motherboard makes budget builds possible.
The F chips are a fantastic value if you already have a GPU. I'd personally only get an F-chip if I was going to do an Intel build. As for the B660 boards, those are great too, but I wish they were priced a little closer to the B550 boards...
I just bought a r5 5600x to go with my xfx rx6700xt should be here on this Monday or Tuesday gonna give my r5 3600 to my nephew
HYPE, that's going to be one hell of a system!
Hi Tank, amazing content I’m from South Africa as well, is it possible to assist me with a build, I have a B550m-k prime motherboard and 750 power supply, gigabyte RTX3080 and H115 Corsair AIO, what ram do you think will be the best and what’s the safest overclock I can put on my CPU?
Hey dude, it was fun helping you out on stream, I hope my advice helped point you in the right direction. If you have any more questions or need advice on anything, feel free to ask in the Discord. Safest overclock for a 5600X is as high as you can go while keeping temps in check and without the system crashing. I usually do an all-core overclock of 100MHz above the max clock speed of the chip with voltage at 1.425. That's usually stable and doesn't max out the temps.
Just got one on amazon for $174 !! I'm just now upgrading my 4790k lol.
Nice! A heck of an upgrade right there!
Just ordered one too for $188 with tax but that’s insane for the value I kinda wanted 8 cores but for gaming lightweight streaming and web browsing 6 cores is more than enough and I have a laptop to handle additional editing anyway
5600X still worth it?? HELL YAS!
only if you get it at a good price or have a am4 mobo,it's still a pretty solid preformer
@@bgop346 any better options di exist? Performance/price
@@EnormeEkoH i5 12400f
@@bgop346 with what gpu?
@@EnormeEkoH with a 6700xt or rx 6600xt could
just got an open box 5600X this week for 145.00 USD!!!!
Nice!
So I bought a ryzen 5600 to replace a mishap with a cooler change :D I feel the X is just a gimmick and your better taking the non ex and slapping a really good 360 AIO on it with the extra money. My reasoning behind this. My 5600 with a 360 cooler and +200mhz overdrive on results in the following cinebench 23 score with crappy cl16 3200 mhz corsair memory. multi 11886 - single 1522. The listed cinebench r23 score for a 5600x is multi 11710 - single 1536. So by hitting a few buttons in bios Im already out performing it. Either I got lucky on silicon or the 5600 is just a 5600x getting moved before the values are totally gone.
Getting this thing for 150 bucks, right after upgrading from the 4770k to a Ryzen 2700 not a month ago, is insane. Just too good of an offer when my crap GA-A320-S2H supports 5000 processors with the new bios. Got an X570-A Pro on the way to replace it either way.
That's awesome, major congrats on the upgrade!
As long as it works why fix it the 5600x has been great for me can run anything I throw at it
@AVLRECORDS nice 👍
I really need help! I’m trying to get my first pc for Christmas and I don’t know if the 5600x is a good part! Please let me know if this is a good choice to make for my pc to have the 5600x
It's a great part for gaming, especially with recent price drops.
@@TheTechTank Ok thank you so much for telling me this, I didn’t want to get a pc that would need immediate upgrades!
Won't need to upgrade for probably the next 5 years or so 👍
@@TheTechTank You sir just got a new subscriber!
I mainly game on ps5, and use series X and switch occasionally. I have a gaming pc that I use only for total war Warhammer games.
I haven't upgraded it for some years now. Currently I have a i7 4770k and I want to upgrade to a 5600X is it worth it? or should I go for something else?
The Warhammer games do tend to rely on CPU performance, so I'd say it's worth it. But you should only ever upgrade your PC parts if you're unhappy with the performance you're getting.
Would you say this is worth upgrading to from a i5-9400f to a ryzen 5 5600x? I mostly want to upgrade to take more advantage of pci 4 and faster ram since my current mobo is holding me back. Also I notice in newer games the i5 keeps hitting 100% usuage and I think its holding back my rx 6600 xt since usuage will be at like 60-80 in some games for gpu and with cpu hitting 100 ect.
I'd hold off on upgrading until next-gen stuff launches, but if you can't then it would definitely be a worthwhile upgrade (especially with holiday sale prices).
берите 5600 и всё будет хорошо. Отличное соотношение цены и качества
Agreed. Great value, even now.
should you upgrade CPU if you considering placing a 4000 serie nvidia GPU when they release?
If you can afford to, and plan on getting a 4070 or better, then sure. It also depends on what you're upgrading from.
@@TheTechTank from a 1660 ti, I also have the 5600x.
@@demonspree You won't need to upgrade the 5600X to get good performance with the new GPUs.
@The Tech Tank I was hoping sometime soon I'd finally upgrade my 1060 to a 3060ti, will my ryzen 5 3600x cpu hold back the performance of the 3060ti or will I need to get a 5600x aswell for a more stable performance ?
The 3600X won't hold the card back. I wouldn't upgrade from the 3600X for anything less than the 5800X, otherwise it's more like a sidegrade.
@@TheTechTank thanks, i actually found a palit 3060ti for £530, its pricey but not a bad choice at all considering gpu's has been out of stock for a rediculously long time lol, hopefully i can get it within a few weeks since the site im looking at allows payment over monthly fee (Awd-it) before it goes out of stock.
That price still hurts, but all things considered it's not the worst price I've seen. Best of luck with actually being able to secure it!
I'm eager to upgrade too the 5600x my only concern is motherboard support since I'll be building a whole new computer.
I wouldn't be too concerned. Most of the boards even from the older generations should work with a BIOS update.
Got this thing for 150 bucks. What a steal
Great deal! The price has been in freefall for a while now and I love it.