I think Roshi Jiyu (Peggy) Kennett was the first Western woman allowed to stay in a Zen monastery. She became a priest and later came to the US to found the lineage of the Order of Buddhist Contemplatives. She wrote a fantastic book about it called the Wild White Goose.
Thanks for the note, we discussed this topic in the comments before and yes, Jiyu Roshi was earlier. Ruth Fuller Sasaki was even earlier than Jiyu Kenneth though, apparently Fuller already sat zazen in the Daitokuji Zendo in the 30's.
The rapid loud chanting, running for the bell, energy and intensity helps keep you from being too religious. Zen is the Religion of no Religion. It helps keep you from thinking 'oh what a holy thing I'm doing' it also helps you not think too much except about what you have to do next. Most people don't keep right thoughts about their actions, and that's why we get lost, in this pressure, like a boot camp for the mind you get straight. Strange how some people think just because you laze around like Gurus you would somehow have wisdom drop on you from the sky
Thank you so much for making and posting this video for public. This is so inspiring for all other zen students. Again Thank you for the wonderful work. Gassho Dewi
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I watched this while drinking my beer and having a nice meal. No rush. Zen monasteries have a sense of urgency: every second should be spent in the attempt to achieve satori. There is rhythm to the life of a monk. I am beyond that. All I need is to be content at this point. And if I am not, I am no different than anyone else. I cook, exercise, sleep. There is no urgency anymore. I hope they find what they want. My instincts tell me they won't but if they are content, that is enough.
I found it odd that he said when he first got there that people were snappy and only some were patient as he was learning the ropes. Seems like everyone would be welcoming and helpful.
Buddha was born in india and preached Buddhism in india. We still don't know if Prince Siddharth was born on the other side of border between India or Nepal. Even so if he is born in Nepal, he became Buddha in india. So Buddha was born in india.
Yes, Zen Soto come to Europe directly from Japan with Master Deshimaru. She speak of Zen Rinzai. She shows Zen Rinzai in her documentary, this school it seems was introduce to Europe from US.
Lol ironically living at a zen monastery is one of the most chaotic and peaceful experiences u will ever experience - I’m living in one for the last 7 months
Our retreat was going well. Then one day Uzua farted really loudly This was the last straw for Obubu who turned and shoved Uzua through the paper wall into the rock and sand garden. That's when Share leaped through the wall and tackled Uzua messing up the zen sand raking. This threw Bonopa into a rage and he jumped on Share and I jumped on Bonopa. The abbot threw us all out so the momentary which is why we're sitting in front of the 7-11 at midnight huddling in the cold!
its very important to have friends, Sangha, with the same purpose - an enlightenment, but to live with them together, like and with family, is mistake. must have your own quite place, for to see what's going on with your mind, but not to be in control of rules, traditions and daily contacts. all monastery are dustbins of mental sweepings, and arenas, where goes so much everything, not necessary for meditation practice. must leave your-self alone, for to understand, who and how powerful indeed you are. it is nice to visit master in center and to talk with cup of tea.
Life in a monastery so appealing to me. I don't care about peace, but I care about having a purpose, and order to life. I can imagine spending a lifetime in a monastery. I would what would be the take away for me from a year long living experience in a monastery.
Jim Walsh you should speak japanese, and they say, eiheiji its only for japanese, not for foreigner...if you are foreigner they accept for limiting time...
Mr Moore, I'm feeling immense pain and suffering, i lost everything, freinds family, love how can I find peace ? I scarificed everything for a person but that person left me alone , that person never even try to help me or ask me how I'm dealing with these situations just left me ...tell me where i can I find peace Mr Moore..... I tried everything but nothing is working , now , no one is with me , I'm fighting with my own self......how can I get back everything....why me only?? I had very normal life but in just some months i lost everything I'm dying here everyday.....tell me some way .....how can I find peace Because i have lot of questions inside me How can I find the answers???
anyone Sekiro Shadows Die Twice?? yeah..i love that game,that game brings me the fascination about the buddhist zen temples...more like the architecture,i love it!! i realy want to see if it realy exists those temples on those cliffs..steep rocks!? by the way i was dying at Great Shinobi Owl for 6-7 hours i was stuck..man, it was a hard boss!
Running for a meeting with the Abbott is part of the tradition (in the comment section you will see we discussed this topic before). The singing is called chanting. Zen Buddhist texts (sutras) are recited, usually guided by a Japanese sutra drum (mokugyo). It is a meditative practice in itself and a challenging concentration exercise. On this RUclips channel you will find many examples of Zen Buddhist chants.
Chúng ta có bước khởi đầu chân thật nhưng kết thúc không thật chân thì tất cả đều đổ vỡ hoài công . Gian nan trắc trở là sự thử thách đáng giá nhất để cho ta tìm thấy chân thật chính mình .
What did he mean by 'REAL ZEN MASTER' can you please explain. Plus does the group have any association with the master where they sit and talk and the master gives a kind of lecture or speech
The master running the monastery in the documentary is Harada Shodo (1940), who is in a lineage that can be traced back to the buddha himself, Harada Shodo's teacher was Mumon Yamada (1900-1988). The master gives lectures and speeches in the monastery, SogenJi temple in Okayama.
He wanted to look for the roots of zen ? Their in Japan ? I'm afraid not . Zen came to Japan from China , known as chan. It came to China from India known as Dhyan "concentration" .
Japanese Zen monasteries are pretty tough and strict, but people are there by choice...mostly people who need difficult circumstances in order to deepen.
As I do not speak the language, I don’t understand the purpose of the ritualism in, for example, eating a meal. To me it seems like an exercise in compliance which, to me, seems far from liberation and unattachment.
Any monastery is a difficult place to live. If you can read yourself completely, then no need to stay in a monastery. If you can't smile gracefully after staying in a monastery, then think........
@@australianzenstudiesinstit2216 Dude, you are such a fake buddist hoax. Who named you the Buddhism police? "Show us, come on show us!"... yeah right, where is your inner peace brah...XD
It is tradition, everybody runs from the meditation hall to the waiting hall to wait for a personal meeting with the Zen master. One of the functions of the running is I guess to underscore the importance of the meetings with the Zen master, and the order of arrival at the waiting hall decides who can meet the master first. If you are at the end of the row there is a chance you will not be able to meet the master since the time he has for private meetings is limited. Another function of the running is that it gives you an opportunity to use all the energy that you build up during the zen meditation in the meditation hall that happens before the meetings with the master. So better Run fast ;-)
@@australianzenstudiesinstit2216 So what makes the difference from a bussy city?? I'm late for my meditation classs!!! nooooooooooooo!!! I'm late for inner peace!! nooo!!
It's a steel wok that never had a non-stick coating. It got blackish on top because of heavy use on high fire. Nonetheless, they could use a new one :D
Three different chants come along (all abbreviated in this documentary) 1. Kannon Gyo (a part of the Lotus sutra) 2. Chin Shu Rinzai Esho Zenji Go Roku No Jo (A part of the record of Rinzai) 3. Dai Hi Shu (A purification dharani / sort of mantra)
We eat what is provided, onions are against the regulations of Shojin, however Buddha taught us to accept all gifts equally, so... Would it be preferred to throw a gift away because of a rule? What kind of Buddhism would that be then?
@@davidseriff711 eat it of course, we are not Hindu, hey don't make a religion out of food. What kind of receiver complains about the gift? Lol...a selfish one
@@infozencentre tsss tsss when heart opens, you can feel energies (Qi, prana) and you can't eat meat. it s not about religion, it s about deeper practice.....
In the time I was there from 2009 until 2014 we hardly had any sick people. It might be that since covid they changed some things there at the table :D
The chants that were in the video are the heart sutra / hannya shingyo (during the meal) and a part of the Rinzai roku / record of Rinzai and a part of the Moyoho Renge Kyo / Lotus Sutra (during the ceremony).
Các thầy âu mỹ đi tư hoc anh sáng của đức phật từ bi bắc ái minh triết và khoa học.chúc các thầy nhanh chóng tiếp thu rời quay về nước các thầy để dúp nhiều người biết đến đức phật từ bi bắc ái
I wish they all knew that "They already have a Buddha nature and don't need to do anything to attain it" "This mind is the Buddha mind, there is no mind other then the Buddha mind" 🤗🙏❤
This regimen seems extremely hectic and stressful, and not “zen” at all, as I thought I understood it. But what do I know? I’m just a dumb Californian. 🤣
it looks like total and complete practiced and concretized hell. the "shell" of what may have once been spontaneous religious experience, practiced by lost people, caught on tape. Nice job.
@@donosvald7446 I guess so. But how Zen is Zen? And is it violating humans nature laws or not. E.g. sitting around a lot is realy unhealthy for the mind and body.
It was not shown, but I thought it was the tradition to drink the water after rinsing the eating bowls? And I even heard that on some occasions a student will drink the rinse water of ALL those at the eating table? To me this is so DISGUSTING!! (and unsafe) that I could never practice in one of these traditional temples. Maybe this is not correct? 🙏
Thanks for the note. They drink only their own rinse water (a part of it), not the water of all those at the table. Another part of the rinse water is collected and offered to the plants outside.
@@screwdriver4862 It isn't. Running around in so called normal life, not knowing who you really are, having little insight and not being awake is what is truly robotic.
Because you have become monks, followers of the law of the Buddha and disciples of a famed Master, you think you are different from the laymen on whom you look with condescension. You are as ignorant of original spirit as only the grass of the field can be.
why are they chanting in such a frantic high pitched manner???? as if following this to the T will enrich their lives!!!! The Buddha himself never behaved in such weird manner. All ancient sources say that he used to access food graciously, whatever offered, but he never blessed the food etc. He was thankful for the meal, of course, but never in this overtly formal way.
The frantic way that it's done in a Rinzai temple is to emulate the desperation that the poor feel. If you have ever been hungry - desperately hungry you know this practice. As to what the historical Buddha did, or how he lived, you were there? Show us.
@@australianzenstudiesinstit2216 You sound like a religios fanatic freak...."muh muh you didn´t know the historical Buddha you weren´t there muh muh"...
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I think about going to a monastery ..every now and zen
hahahahaha
Don't zen around Go now !
zen do you think you're going? 😆
And zen?
Daaaaaaad!
When you realize zen is just constant asmr. I could live like that
yea I noticed that too lol
My mother received permission to stay and practice in a traditional Buddhist monastery in Japan in 1968 for one year.
Interesting, what was the name of the monastery?
I think Roshi Jiyu (Peggy) Kennett was the first Western woman allowed to stay in a Zen monastery. She became a priest and later came to the US to found the lineage of the Order of Buddhist Contemplatives. She wrote a fantastic book about it called the Wild White Goose.
Thanks for the note, we discussed this topic in the comments before and yes, Jiyu Roshi was earlier. Ruth Fuller Sasaki was even earlier than Jiyu Kenneth though, apparently Fuller already sat zazen in the Daitokuji Zendo in the 30's.
The rapid loud chanting, running for the bell, energy and intensity helps keep you from being too religious. Zen is the Religion of no Religion. It helps keep you from thinking 'oh what a holy thing I'm doing' it also helps you not think too much except about what you have to do next.
Most people don't keep right thoughts about their actions, and that's why we get lost, in this pressure, like a boot camp for the mind you get straight.
Strange how some people think just because you laze around like Gurus you would somehow have wisdom drop on you from the sky
Nope.
Exactly!!
Amazing. Thanks for uploading Tom
Thank you so much for making and posting this video for public. This is so inspiring for all other zen students. Again Thank you for the wonderful work. Gassho Dewi
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Be cool to see a video like this done about Gyobutsuji Zen Monastery!
....the chanting before the meal was beautiful and resonating.
Beautiful way...thanks for sharing...im practice zen in Mèxico...
hey! where do you practice exactly? im also from mexico and ive been looking forward practicing zen more seriously
This is so educative
Is what you want to do go a heads and do what you believe in your hearts thank you for sharing your beautiful video God be with you .
This is dynamic meditation. Another one is quite meditation 🙏🪷🌷🌸🌺
I watched this while drinking my beer and having a nice meal. No rush. Zen monasteries have a sense of urgency: every second should be spent in the attempt to achieve satori. There is rhythm to the life of a monk.
I am beyond that. All I need is to be content at this point. And if I am not, I am no different than anyone else. I cook, exercise, sleep. There is no urgency anymore. I hope they find what they want. My instincts tell me they won't but if they are content, that is enough.
@@pozzarefds Each person has its sweet spot for everything, meditation included. We just need to find what makes as whole.
I found it odd that he said when he first got there that people were snappy and only some were patient as he was learning the ropes. Seems like everyone would be welcoming and helpful.
i bet there's some battle hardened monks in there who don't take 0 shit
And why is that .. I'm curious also because I would have thought the same also
@@12marcusboy they think you should already know what to do if you're there
this isnt zen, the only zen thing about this is how he cut onions without cutting off his hand.
There are grumpy monks and nuns in all faiths - even downright mean ones. Yes, it's a bit bizarre, to be sure.
that abbot is really into his chanting :D
He is really into Zen :) And out of it.
@@simon5542 Can someone explain to me how this chants are called? i'd like to meditate on them.
Japanese are good buddhist.i'm from the land of buddha nepal.
Buddha was born in india and preached Buddhism in india. We still don't know if Prince Siddharth was born on the other side of border between India or Nepal. Even so if he is born in Nepal, he became Buddha in india. So Buddha was born in india.
@@easwaransanthakumar297 Are you sure there was even a concept of India or Nepal (or a border) when Buddha was around?
Dogen's Shobogenzo fits nicely under my kitchen table which has a short leg. The balance of my world is restored!!
😂😂👍🏻👍🏻
Impressive! 🙏🍀
In Europe, Zen spread thank to the Mission of Taisen Deshimaru Roshi from Japan and hot from the US.
Yes, Zen Soto come to Europe directly from Japan with Master Deshimaru.
She speak of Zen Rinzai. She shows Zen Rinzai in her documentary, this school it seems was introduce to Europe from US.
2:04 - Me when I am late for Work......
HAHAHAHAHA
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks
So cool this video
The master is Harada Roshi daiosho...
Is he a Jedi?.
Zentimeter are you a jedi?
Everything seems so hectic! Very different from what I'd have expected from a Zen temple
Even in chaos tranquility can be found :D
Your image of Zen is Soto-Zen.The Zen of this temple is Rinzai-Zen.
Under pressure you find places in yourself you didn't know existed. Besides it aliviates what would be a monotonous existence without the energy
Lol ironically living at a zen monastery is one of the most chaotic and peaceful experiences u will ever experience - I’m living in one for the last 7 months
Our retreat was going well. Then one day Uzua farted really loudly
This was the last straw for Obubu who turned and shoved Uzua through the paper wall into the rock and sand garden. That's when Share leaped through the wall and tackled Uzua messing up the zen sand raking. This threw Bonopa into a rage and he jumped on Share and I jumped on Bonopa. The abbot threw us all out so the momentary which is why we're sitting in front of the 7-11 at midnight huddling in the cold!
Hahahahaha!!!!
"The cheese has slid of the cracker"
its very important to have friends, Sangha, with the same purpose - an enlightenment, but to live with them together, like and with family, is mistake. must have your own quite place, for to see what's going on with your mind, but not to be in control of rules, traditions and daily contacts. all monastery are dustbins of mental sweepings, and arenas, where goes so much everything, not necessary for meditation practice. must leave your-self alone, for to understand, who and how powerful indeed you are. it is nice to visit master in center and to talk with cup of tea.
You’re wrong but ok
on the way of karma, no mistakes. ok, when all will understood this.
Im going to do this its a matter of time
These people look happy and they eat well. P.s. I am tried of my hair. If can shave it regularly. I would be happy.
Krazy kids and there rock and roll!
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Are you buddhism ?
Life in a monastery so appealing to me. I don't care about peace, but I care about having a purpose, and order to life. I can imagine spending a lifetime in a monastery. I would what would be the take away for me from a year long living experience in a monastery.
I stay in eiheiji for a week, for practice sanzensha, I wanna stay there for ten years...but I can't! 😩
why not ?
Jim Walsh you should speak japanese, and they say, eiheiji its only for japanese, not for foreigner...if you are foreigner they accept for limiting time...
Miguel Martinez how old are you
Mr Moore, I'm feeling immense pain and suffering, i lost everything, freinds family, love how can I find peace ? I scarificed everything for a person but that person left me alone , that person never even try to help me or ask me how I'm dealing with these situations just left me ...tell me where i can I find peace Mr Moore..... I tried everything but nothing is working , now , no one is with me , I'm fighting with my own self......how can I get back everything....why me only??
I had very normal life but in just some months i lost everything
I'm dying here everyday.....tell me some way .....how can I find peace
Because i have lot of questions inside me
How can I find the answers???
When are you allowed to speak in the monastery? Why?
Amitabha! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Why are they rushing??
Zen literally attracts me😁 (Tho I'm a theravada Buddhist)
Could anyone please provide the name of the chant as the group sat down to eat? Thank you kindly in advance.
The chant you hear at the meal footage is mostly the Heart sutra / Hannya Shingyo.
7:33 do you really need all that noise around the dinner table?
Call it wholehearted chanting ;D
Why were they running at Min 02:00? Isnt hurry the oppositve of zen?
I want to live in monastery!
Помпей Новости Why you want live there? You already there, look around not like before, but go More deep.
anyone Sekiro Shadows Die Twice?? yeah..i love that game,that game brings me the fascination about the buddhist zen temples...more like the architecture,i love it!! i realy want to see if it realy exists those temples on those cliffs..steep rocks!? by the way i was dying at Great Shinobi Owl for 6-7 hours i was stuck..man, it was a hard boss!
If it permissible for any foreigner to stay and practice zen in temple in Japan?
The morning ceremony is very unzen-like, what's with all the running and singing?? Were they playing to the camera or something?
Running for a meeting with the Abbott is part of the tradition (in the comment section you will see we discussed this topic before). The singing is called chanting. Zen Buddhist texts (sutras) are recited, usually guided by a Japanese sutra drum (mokugyo). It is a meditative practice in itself and a challenging concentration exercise. On this RUclips channel you will find many examples of Zen Buddhist chants.
Chúng ta có bước khởi đầu chân thật nhưng kết thúc không thật chân thì tất cả đều đổ vỡ hoài công . Gian nan trắc trở là sự thử thách đáng giá nhất để cho ta tìm thấy chân thật chính mình .
I would have stayed down after the 2nd or 3rd kneel lol, anyone else?
What did he mean by 'REAL ZEN MASTER' can you please explain.
Plus does the group have any association with the master where they sit and talk and the master gives a kind of lecture or speech
The master running the monastery in the documentary is Harada Shodo (1940), who is in a lineage that can be traced back to the buddha himself, Harada Shodo's teacher was Mumon Yamada (1900-1988). The master gives lectures and speeches in the monastery, SogenJi temple in Okayama.
@@zenmeditationchanting hes a cool guy, btw do they eat meat during meals ?
@@47shahzaib No meat....
why is it so loud I am so confused
He wanted to look for the roots of zen ? Their in Japan ? I'm afraid not . Zen came to Japan from China , known as chan. It came to China from India known as Dhyan "concentration" .
The essence of Zen is not limited to a country.
Buddhism came to Japan but "zen" buddhism is from Japan
ULTRAS Alive maybe he wanted to go the long way....
Thank you Wikipedia :p
I m from India but the way Japanese are following it it is more there than us.
They are not eating in Seiza , thats pretty cool if you are not japanese or Aikidoka.
In India where should I have to go
My goodness, how shocking! Looks like some sort of correction/punishment institution. Surely there must be easier ways?
Watch Plum village.
Japanese Zen monasteries are pretty tough and strict, but people are there by choice...mostly people who need difficult circumstances in order to deepen.
As I do not speak the language, I don’t understand the purpose of the ritualism in, for example, eating a meal. To me it seems like an exercise in compliance which, to me, seems far from liberation and unattachment.
How is this Zen?
Am I missing something?
Any monastery is a difficult place to live.
If you can read yourself completely, then no need to stay in a monastery.
If you can't smile gracefully after staying in a monastery, then think........
Show us
@@australianzenstudiesinstit2216 Dude, you are such a fake buddist hoax. Who named you the Buddhism police? "Show us, come on show us!"... yeah right, where is your inner peace brah...XD
Why people run in a zen monastery??? I don't understand.
It is tradition, everybody runs from the meditation hall to the waiting hall to wait for a personal meeting with the Zen master. One of the functions of the running is I guess to underscore the importance of the meetings with the Zen master, and the order of arrival at the waiting hall decides who can meet the master first. If you are at the end of the row there is a chance you will not be able to meet the master since the time he has for private meetings is limited. Another function of the running is that it gives you an opportunity to use all the energy that you build up during the zen meditation in the meditation hall that happens before the meetings with the master. So better Run fast ;-)
@@zenmeditationchanting , thanks for the information.
@@monjezentaito Buddha said 'Time waits for nobody. Practice now. Awaken!' so in a Rinzai temple this is taken literally.
@@australianzenstudiesinstit2216 So what makes the difference from a bussy city?? I'm late for my meditation classs!!! nooooooooooooo!!! I'm late for inner peace!! nooo!!
@@UnderBridge The difference is: You aren't actually late.
Very nice, but they need a new wok asap. They get the toxic chemicals from the disintegrating non-stick coating in their food.
It's a steel wok that never had a non-stick coating. It got blackish on top because of heavy use on high fire. Nonetheless, they could use a new one :D
@@zenmeditationchanting So glad to hear! I feel ridiculously relieved on the behalf of the practitioners. :-)
Holy chant Batman
世界中が禅を信仰したらどうなるか想像するのが面白い。でも禅は、信仰者に何かを強制するわけではなく自発的な信仰ですよね
What is the chanting called in the morning ceremony
Three different chants come along (all abbreviated in this documentary)
1. Kannon Gyo (a part of the Lotus sutra)
2. Chin Shu Rinzai Esho
Zenji Go Roku No Jo (A part of the record of Rinzai)
3. Dai Hi Shu (A purification dharani / sort of mantra)
@@zenmeditationchanting thank you very much!!
Do they eat onions in a monastery? 6:29
The temple receives regular donations of onions, so yes they eat them.
We eat what is provided, onions are against the regulations of Shojin, however Buddha taught us to accept all gifts equally, so... Would it be preferred to throw a gift away because of a rule? What kind of Buddhism would that be then?
@@australianzenstudiesinstit2216 what would you do if someone donated meat,would you eat it?
@@davidseriff711 eat it of course, we are not Hindu, hey don't make a religion out of food. What kind of receiver complains about the gift? Lol...a selfish one
@@infozencentre tsss tsss when heart opens, you can feel energies (Qi, prana) and you can't eat meat. it s not about religion, it s about deeper practice.....
I wonder what Buddha would have to say about all of this.
why they runned?
07:33 Isn't it unhygienic to chant sutras while distributing food?
In the time I was there from 2009 until 2014 we hardly had any sick people. It might be that since covid they changed some things there at the table :D
What is the name of this chant ?
The chants that were in the video are the heart sutra / hannya shingyo (during the meal) and a part of the Rinzai roku / record of Rinzai and a part of the Moyoho Renge Kyo / Lotus Sutra (during the ceremony).
@@zenmeditationchanting Thank you.
why are they in so rush and hurry?
In the comment section this point is being addressed...
🙏🙏🙏
😍😍😍
what is this porridge they are eating? (sry for my english)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congee#Japan
thanks!
how long can i stay there as a foreigner
About 35 seconds.
Ricardo Camacho lmao
My old teacher stayed for several months I think
Ok, I gotta ask, how much are the foreigners paying to stay there? It looks like a business not a temple.
Free of charge....
Các thầy âu mỹ đi tư hoc anh sáng của đức phật từ bi bắc ái minh triết và khoa học.chúc các thầy nhanh chóng tiếp thu rời quay về nước các thầy để dúp nhiều người biết đến đức phật từ bi bắc ái
Inspiring but so much noise 😔
I wish they all knew that "They already have a Buddha nature and don't need to do anything to attain it"
"This mind is the Buddha mind, there is no mind other then the Buddha mind" 🤗🙏❤
How does a layman practice Buddhism without going to monastery
Google a group near you
This regimen seems extremely hectic and stressful, and not “zen” at all, as I thought I understood it. But what do I know? I’m just a dumb Californian. 🤣
I prefer the zen Plum village way.
zen does not mean relaxed it is being present with concentration.
mind spirit seiche
People are easily led.
Either totally silent or totally noisy?
Interesting. No middle way.
Dealing with extremities can help you find the middle way...
@@zenmeditationchanting Yes, that's a good point. :o)
it looks like total and complete practiced and concretized hell. the "shell" of what may have once been spontaneous religious experience, practiced by lost people, caught on tape. Nice job.
I can't realy tell if they are smart about it, or just weird.
It's just Zen
@@donosvald7446 I guess so. But how Zen is Zen? And is it violating humans nature laws or not. E.g. sitting around a lot is realy unhealthy for the mind and body.
@@jupitereuropa-e3w Then don't do it. Nobody is forcing you to do that.
@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter You didn't answer his question.
Jesus; the Way the Truth and the Life; no one comes unto the Father, but thru Me
Allahumme salli âlâ Muhammed ve Âli Muhammed
accil ferecehum.
elân aduvvahum.
Life without wife: silence, calm and disclipline.
Seems like we have an enlightened one here!
Life without husband: respect, peace, tranquility.
@@annesimon537 What are you point scoring for?
In Japanese monastery mostly western people.
It was not shown, but I thought it was the tradition to drink the water after rinsing the eating bowls? And I even heard that on some occasions a student will drink the rinse water of ALL those at the eating table? To me this is so DISGUSTING!! (and unsafe) that I could never practice in one of these traditional temples. Maybe this is not correct?
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Thanks for the note. They drink only their own rinse water (a part of it), not the water of all those at the table. Another part of the rinse water is collected and offered to the plants outside.
@@zenmeditationchanting Thanks for the correction
Hm!
All that running and shouting looks a bit stressful!
Stress can be a useful part of Zen Training :D
I feel the same. It looks robotic
@@screwdriver4862 It isn't. Running around in so called normal life, not knowing who you really are, having little insight and not being awake is what is truly robotic.
I love Buddhism but, I can not live like this, it is too mechanical.
Do you need to live like that to practice Buddhism?
@@donosvald7446 No. Buddhism is a state of mind, a way of living.
@@Seekthetruth3000 Nope.
Why can't you try it
@@dinujayachamodh3564 I do but not this version.
4:10
Why separate from life
less attachment less expectation less "headfucks"
Hippie Inasuit don’t you think it’s running away from life?
My Japanese is horrible now! I would need to get better at the Japanese language then go study.
Doesn’t look very appealing to me.
pretty fucking loud for monks don't you think
No. Monks are loud as they need to be. They made you think and make a comment. Peace.
they made me think about how loud they are! ohhhhhhh
What? 0.0 So many gaijins.
Horrible chanting. The film shows just superficialities, cooking eating shaving, not the real thing. Well, what can one expect from a filmmaker?
Agree but no one can show the "real thing". NEVER. It is inside you ALWAYS. AAaaand not all filmmakers are cut by the same knife.
In Zen practice, cooking, eating and shaving are the real thing. If you'd ever trained with an actual teacher, you'd have known this.
medical solar plexus
Because you have become monks,
followers of the law of the Buddha
and disciples of a famed Master,
you think you are different from the laymen
on whom you look with condescension.
You are as ignorant of original spirit
as only the grass of the field can be.
why are they chanting in such a frantic high pitched manner???? as if following this to the T will enrich their lives!!!! The Buddha himself never behaved in such weird manner. All ancient sources say that he used to access food graciously, whatever offered, but he never blessed the food etc. He was thankful for the meal, of course, but never in this overtly formal way.
The frantic way that it's done in a Rinzai temple is to emulate the desperation that the poor feel. If you have ever been hungry - desperately hungry you know this practice. As to what the historical Buddha did, or how he lived, you were there? Show us.
@@australianzenstudiesinstit2216 You sound like a religios fanatic freak...."muh muh you didn´t know the historical Buddha you weren´t there muh muh"...