I've been to Cusco, Sacsayhuaman and Ollantaytambo and had a close look at this stonework. All 'plant-based' chemical stone softening theories are apocryphal dead ends. There is zero evidence to support them and numerous obvious questions - such as which plant was used, how this chemical was produced in the vast amounts needed for these huge civil engineering projects and why it didn't eat through the ropes used to immerse these blocks into the tanks (which were themselves presumably made from a material that was also impervious to this chemical). To explain what's seen at these sites today, this chemical would also need to be something that temporarily softened the stone, then reconstituted it WITHOUT changing its crystalline structure, calcite veins etc. As a geologist friend explained to me, this is an extremely tall order. All theories regarding ancient technology/machines/power tools come with exactly the same question: What was the ancient power source? The 'sonic tools' shown in this video have cables attached but there is no explanation of what they were actually plugged into.
You nailed the theory to its coffin. The narrator might assume well said they mixed the powdered rock and put it as a mud brick and left to dry in the sun. My hypothesis is as good as plant based softening liquid!
“somewhere between clay and whale blubber”. One thing that most people are familiar with from having handled it if only in their childhood. Another thing that most people have absolutely no frame of reference for. In case anyone is unfamiliar with it whale blubber is usually a consistency that is exactly between a peeled banana and the pancreas of a yeti. And the banana isn’t as ripe as I’d like it. It is just about how my wife likes them. So I hope that helps. Edit: I misspelled “that”.
"In case anyone is unfamiliar with it whale blubber is usually a consistency that is exactly between a peeled banana and the pancreas of a yeti." I'm still wiping tears of laughter away! And then to continue with the banana's relative ripeness - hahaha, MY wife likes them with green still around the stem (yuck).
This was the most interesting video I've seen in some time. Appreciate the fact that you covered everything in about 6 minutes instead of making it a 2 hour thing. You've earned my subscription and I'm going to watch your other videos for sure. To the points you make, I think you are mostly correct, with perhaps minor adjustments. Here are some thoughts supportive of your points but a variation on the softening solution. I did some digging after on the porosity of granite and there is a research paper that quantifies it. For the sound part, I think the vibration of sound in the rock could cause accelerated wetting at the micro level and speed the seeping of a liquid through the slightly porous granite. So I think the porosity of the granite could be enhanced with just an iron rod being pounded against the inner hard part of the stone to send vibrations through it. One could envision a simple hand turned device with an irregular wheel and pressure pounding on the rod many times per turn creating a jackhammer effect. So the sonic thing makes sense and could be crudely implemented. For the softening solution, it would be neat to have a mineralogist do a chemical analysis between a piece of one of the entry rocks not processed and one that had clearly been through the softening process to see if there is a different distribution of elements. I'm predicting there will be more sodium in the processed rock. The reason for this is I suspect the liquid may not be plant based but instead a sodium hydroxide NaOH (lye) solution which is very caustic and may interact with the slightly acidic SiO2 - a large component of granite and some other hard rock types. Perhaps other minerals too are slightly acid and will interact with the NaOH solution. Lye is made by leaching ash from burnt wood so it would be readily possible in any part of the world to produce it even in ancient times. I'm tempted to go and do that experiment myself to see if I can soften granite. I'm suspecting the stones are stuck together as it appears the troweling would have to be done after the two stones were in contact. Those are my thoughts - again congrats on the video. Harvey, you deserve way more subs than you currently have. All the best to you sir!
Well, here is the issue.. "Drexel University" proved beyond doubt(published) the Egyptian pyramids to have man made stones, by using the surrounding materials as like ancient cement. They also determined there to be natural stones acting as a filler, as the man made stones used as the outer wall and frame. . They were working off the "geopolymer institute of France" earlier work started in the late 1970s that were also piggy backing off the work from Harvard back in the 1950s.. Man made stones are now accepted in the scientific community and well documented, except in this video and the Egyptyian tour guide book.. Take a few minutes to research any of the above mentioned research.
I seen something about pure sulfur I don't remember where but I think the tech was pretty advanced when this was done something stopped everything and the tech was lost over time in the fight to survive.
Well, the Spaniards in S. America found those plant juices by accident. Certain plants in the jungle will dissolve off your shoe heels while walking and if your sword drags thru the greenery by the time you have walked a few hours your sword is half-dissolved and you are walking on leather with no heels. These plants don't dissolve skin or leather only rocks and metal . One conquistadore who got stuck in the jungle walking ended up getting to his destination half naked and barefoot which might have been very entertaining to the native women who might have never seen a circumsized dinky-winky before. 😂😮😊
It would seem to me that stones that heavy when softened would bulge in the middle before hardening. With out some kind of mold to keep it in place . Al those thousands of different micro angles ; I just don’t know how they kept them do flawless . Even to construct wooden molds to hold polymer stones in places would be an astonishing effort. I think you’ve got some good ideas but somethings still don’t seem to match up. It’s such a frustrating enigma . It’s as if the stone makers are mocking us
I can't explain how the rock was softened, however, the process can be demonstrated using 'Therapeutic Putty' or 'Science Putty' from the Science and History museum. Put the putty in a freezer overnight. Then cut the putty into small lumps. Stack all the lumps together like a dry stone wall. Allow the putty to thaw out until it starts to soften, as it does so the lumps will 'cold flow' into each other. When the putty polygonal wall is at the desired fitted 'perfection', spray with 'Arctic Spray' to freeze (set) the putty hard again. It does not explain how Granite was softened but this demonstration does adequately demonstrate how Polygonal walls were made using 'softened stone'.
If they were cut square why not use them square? It's easy to fit squared blocks tightly if straight. Why did they change the shape. That is the bit that makes me wonder!
@@barrymayson2492out of necessity, maybe because of the frequent earthquakes? Square blocks rattle apart, but the fitted stone walls have endured thousands of years of earthquakes.
@@barrymayson2492 from what I've gathered from information presented to me, they did this to create earthquake proof structures. That's why they still stand today... millenia later
Excellent clue evidence of stone softening. However, three problems: 1. why spoil the plausibility of this theory by invoking unnecessary sonic tools that require power sources equivalent to those of the modern era - an idea that scientists would not accept? 2. How could immersion of something like a block of andesite in a tank of liquid result in the latter soaking through its bulk so as to soften it? It is apparent that ALL the volume of a block was softened, not just its surface, as the fine wire cutting indicates. But this would require the softening agent to soak deep into the hard stone? It is hard to believe this is possible, but I suppose all bets are off until we find what softening chemicals were used (perhaps the juices of a certain plant, according to legends). 3. What were the knobs on the faces of some blocks for and how were they formed, given that the raw, cut blocks would have had smooth surfaces? The softening theory needs to be able to account for them as well.
Stephen, Thank You for your comments! In my last two videos I mention the use of a sonic soft-stick to soften the stone and to stear it into position. And in my latest video 'The Math and Science' illustrates this even more. I hope this helps.
It all boils down to chemistry and a PH scale...One would think if a team of today's top Chemists were hired to study this process It wouldn't take them long to solve all the mysteries we discuss today
Unfortunately, it didn't answer my questions. But at least we both agree that there is a real problem to solve, unlike archaeologists with their stone pounders and bronze chisels. Sonic tools fail to solve the issue satisfactorily because they would, presumably, require the application of electrical power. Did the builders trek up the mountains with large batteries on the backs of llamas? I doubt it. And so would scientists, because the notion implies technological advancement of a degree for which no other evidence exists. The notion of powered tools is therefore as poor an explanation as invoking aliens.
andesite is igneous rock and main constituent are silica so like granite it is impervious to water the only thing that dissolve these type of rock is hydrofluoric acid
I don’t really see how you can pick up 100 tons and plop it somewhere. Any place unsupported would just blob out on the ground. Explaining how they transported and lifted them is almost as important as explaining how they shaped them.
I guess he is trying to form a hypothesis based on what is available, there are no clues to the moving of them. What we know is that somehow they got them down one side of the valley across the river and up the other side, and of the stones that are left on the path up, there is not enough path space for 500 men up each diagonal even if you want to try explain away the movement by mass manpower.
They also didn’t have steel or metallurgy, so I’m not sure how they’d get ropes and cranes strong enough to lift these. [correction: i did find a video testing inca ropes breaking strength, and they were capable of pulling thousands of pounds. From the inca road symposium videos.]
He mentioned it would make the rock the consistency of clay. Large clay block could be picked up and moved into place without becoming a blob. I think his theory is that this softened the rock not liquified it. All I can say is that his theory is much better for what we observe at these sites than what the archeologists want us to believe. (Hand tools made from copper and sharpened bone)
@@OverlandOne i haven’t heard archeologists saying that these were made with copper and bone tools. At machu picchu have even found stones that they used for chipping away chunks. In egypt they did used copper drag saws to cut the blocks, with quartz powder for the abrasion. That explains some of the saw cut marks. You might want to check out the World of Antiquity Sacsayhuaman video for an interesting hypothesis on how they got the blocks to fit so well together.
So they had beautifully cut straight and flat stones, and... they didn’t use them that way? Instead they softened them so they could create weird non-rectangular shapes to stack together? Really?!? To quote the Beatles, “Tell me whyyyyyy.”
Help me here. They were saw-cut from the quarry, which is part of the natural bedrock and transported to the site. But for some reason they could not bring those saws to the site to remove and level out some bedrock sticking out of the footpaths? I do appreciate the out of the box thinking along with animations. These builders were extremely clever... and by the size of the largest wall blocks we can get a scope of what was the maximum weight they could manage. Which is honestly amazing considering the terrain. Best Regards.
I agree with you, the quarrying process has been 'skipped over', however, the building process can be demonstrated using 'Therapeutic Putty' or 'Science Putty' from the Science and History museum. Put the putty in a freezer overnight. Then cut the putty into small lumps. Stack all the lumps together like a dry stone wall. Allow the putty to thaw out until it starts to soften, as it does so the lumps will 'cold flow' into each other. When the putty polygonal wall is at the desired fitted 'perfection', spray with 'Arctic Spray' to freeze (set) the putty hard again. It does not explain how Granite was softened but this demonstration does adequately demonstrate how Polygonal walls were made using 'softened stone'.
I understand from another blog that they cut the stone away from the cliffs,pulverized it at that location,transported it in sacks to the construction site,than poured into molds the shapes required. You will note that the color of all these stones are uniform,much like the concrete block,s seen at places like Hoover Dam.
Great work. Amazing. I was a quarry man. I worked ina granite quarry for a few years. I believe your theory. Along those same lines, I believe that there's so much we don't know about the power of vibrations. Extracting granite from the earth has got to be one of the most difficult tasks known to man. Having the ability to soften the stone is a total game changer. Thanks for the video
There are plants that grow in the area that produce an acid that can be used to soften rocks. Explorers noticed that their boots spurs and weapons blunted very quickly when traversing the nearby jungles. When they asked the locals they explained that certain plants produced an acid, they showed the explorers birds that nested in cliff faces that used the leaves to carve out their nests using their beaks into the cliff face. There is your answer, they copied the natural world as always.
@@hiamaraldvaan7221 no , its probe that they use cheasels and stone , and some metals like cooper , even iron , and water with abrasive rocks , of course the know to work with it
Plants around the area probably have Hf(Hydrofluoric Acid) in them. Hf can eat away at granite and dolerite rock,making it easier for a copper or bronze wire saw to cut through and helps with the "sanding" of the rock for fit perfection. Still not sure about rock "softening". Seems to me, they put the stones up against one another and pour the acid in between them. The acid eats away at the stone faces and "softens" them up so that a wire saw can be used in between them to give them a tight perfect fit. And, these plants were and still are found all over the world.
@@charlesco7413 It's not even a clue. A clue is based on some kind of evidence. There is NO CLUE of how the stone was softened. Says it was a plant without naming the plant? That's pure fantasy.
Sonic Clamp? Sonic Soft Stick? Yeah OK sure. Until someone, anyone, comes up with actual proof (video in front of live audience ) that stone can be "softened" and shaped to this extent, I'm calling all this out as complete horseshit!
Yea and the plant solution that melts them. Not the liquid from an acid pool or anything like that. What specific plant juice can do such things as melt rock?
They definitely had more advanced technology than we give them credit for. It’s funny how no one in the mainstream wants to discuss exactly how the structures were created. Sad...
@FullBlown Melting the stone would be evident, and relatively easy to detect, because it would alter the composition. Whatever process these stones went through they remain identical to natural formed stone.
@@tjwoosta I've seen it suggested that softened stone was discovered in a cave pool, and humans then copied nature's process. If knowledge was shared only orally, its plausible this process could have become a lost art. Wouldn't it be interesting if someone figures out how to use gravel and modern advantages to further Edison's vision of casting monolithic structures, but in stone?
@Harvey Turner fantastic! I eagerly await your demonstration of this groundbreaking technology. I am particularly keen to watch you employing the sonic clamp. This is going to revolutionise the construction industry.
I agree with you 100% yet archeologists will tell us these people were very skilled and were able to make these rocks fit together using pieces of sharpened copper and bone using a lot of elbow grease. To that I say poppycock. Common sense should tell anyone that looked at these joints and the similar stone work at the other sites you mentioned, that something else was happening there and your theory works for me. It's either that or lasers but certainly not crude hand tools.
Perhaps the stones were actually soft sedimentary layers that were easily sawn. Moved shaped like clay. And once exposed to sun and air hardened. Explaining why they didn’t/couldn’t deal with the already exposed naturally formed rocks that were in the way and had to be worked around. That would explain a lot.
You are the first to properly analyse the entire process and inform the world how it was done. Now it's up to the scientists to solve the chemical and (ultra)sonic problems!
The process can be demonstrated using 'Therapeutic Putty' or 'Science Putty' from the Science and History museum. Put the putty in a freezer overnight. Then cut the putty into small lumps. Stack all the lumps together like a dry stone wall. Allow the putty to thaw out until it starts to soften, as it does so the lumps will 'cold flow' into each other. When the putty polygonal wall is at the desired fitted 'perfection', spray with 'Arctic Spray' to freeze (set) the putty hard again. It does not explain how Granite was softened but this demonstration does adequately demonstrate how Polygonal walls were made using 'softened stone'.
If the stones were cut straight why not stack them as they were? Plus if the stones were soft the lifting nobbs on the side would also have been soft. Too soft to be lifting nobbs. Interesting idea but might still need a little more thought.
Straight = structurally weak. These walls lean into each other making them lock, so to speak. Same principle in the columns of the Parthenon. Somewhat.
There is a reason for not stacking them straight up. Stone masons will tell you why. It is for stability and rigidity. Stones that are stacked up not in straight line but with irregular formation provides the structure with stability where its integrity is not compromised when there is minor upheaval, e.g. when an earthquake occurs nearby. Of course if the earthquake occurs at its exact location the whole structure would crumble. But with irregular lining up such structures could withstand the impact of earthquakes occurring nearby.
Good Theory, but I have had dreams of how they did it. Different shape animal hides were used to hold the stone chips when they were mixed together it appeared to be a vibration from a rod attached to a machine, not heat, stones were added as it became liquid to fill it to the top. The bumps are legs or other protruding parts of the mold from the animal hides. Sometimes the rod that liquified the stone would be put in where the bump was. On occasion silver powder would be rubbed on the inner part of the animal hide and when the process was complete it would have a beautiful shine. Large rocks that were molded were not hides stiched together but were from very large animals. Other human like species used cutting saws and hand held laser tools. The H Stones of Puma Punka were cut and levitated by machines. The fort/station at Puma Punka was only inhabited for a very short period due to the engineers had to leave and could not leave it in tack due to having another group or species use there facility. It was destroyed by a single blast from there ship from about 15 to 20 thousand feet above. These short type human people worked in Egypt and other areas. Statues of them are in museums. We today look at these statues and have no idea of the history of those workers.
Potentially they softened this stones with resonance of the electrons that form the bonds. This potentially disrupts gravity if done correctly. It can be accomplished with a mix of magnetic fields and the correct sound. Not sure if this sort of thing could be done without electricity
Right on, Harvey Turner. It's pretty clear that an ancient civilization melted huge stones to shape them. What needs to happen is an expedition to find the flowers that melt rock which have been mentioned several times through history, and then some experimenting to see how to do this ourselves. Seems kind of obvious. Thank you for putting this out there, it's good that people talk about this stuff.
I like your assessment of the processing and I assume that the waste stone would be at the site in the form of buried debris such as sand or fragmentary offcuts. With that amount of reductive shaping and shaving, I would think there is something to find in the area. Has anyone heard of any example of this? ...or even the discussion of this obvious piece of the puzzle. The tailings have to be somewhere.
But makes me wonder, why if they had the ability of cutting and transforming perfectly straight-square stones, why would it be desirable or necessary to lay the stones in random odd shapes ?
@penial refractuator I agree. Certain earth processes create the perfect conditions for naturally fast forming super hard concrete. We have known the process most likely since observing it happen an unknown number of years ago.
The fact that we know where many of the quarries are that was the source of many of the sites that used softened stone complicates that geopolymer theory but there could have been a variety of methods tailored to the specific type of stone to achieve the end result so I wouldn't discount the man-made stone theory.
We have very advanced chemists in modern day. You would think they could re-create the chemical compound used to "soften" the stone. Especially since they know the general area to search for that herb/plant you spoke of.
It would be easier to believe they ground the desired type of stone to a fine powder and made a clay out of it with some unknown liquid compound. The powdered rock could be hauled up and down the mountains in manageable lots rather than trying to haul a 100 ton block.
@@arroyodave5845 EVERYTIME they were worth paying attention to. Have you not heard of telescopes, CMB, accelerators, etc? How about nuclear reactors and bombs, did you think they came from children's books? Heard of transistors maybe? How about GPS or airliners, cars, radios....???
@@arroyodave5845 And they state there theories as facts like the Theory of relativity, big bang, gravitational waves, electrons and many more and take a fact with proof right in front of them and deny its authenticity or claim it's a hoax or never existed if it doesn't fit their divide,distract, depopulate agenda.
Hi, you've obviously put a lot of effort into this presentation, well done. I'm a scientist and engineer, so approaching ideas with caution and skepticism is a must. If you could physically recreate the mechanisms by which they lifted the stone that would be impressive, but to make a fully functioning sonic bath that can prove that one can achieve blubberfication of granite...I know some people that would be very interested in your findings. Ps if you can do all that, I'd love to present your work to my university.
Don’t those stones really only fit on the front face. The stones are getting our on the sides and to the back and the cuts are not as precise. Somehow, this doesn’t add up. They have the ability to precisely cut blocks and move them and then, instead of assembling those precisely cut blocks, they get all wiggly and put them in these odd forms. I cannot follow the line of logic all the way through.
I have been there and the stone work is truly amazing. So do you have any idea how to soften such hard stone? Remember the stones were being lifted and handled and put in place while soft according to your theory. How? Some stones that were not put place that could be examined away from the wall showed smoothing at the edges. How does this figure in to your theory?
Maybe the plant they used is what they were growing in the terraces around Machu Picchu. Also, the nubs remind me of braille. Like maybe they relayed info about the structure or were like how we put numbers on our buildings. Great video man keep it up, I'm subbing.
These ideas are interesting and I like your investigative process of looking for clues at the site. Several of the questions asked below also occurred to me -- which I am not sure I have heard definitively answered yet. There are certainly gaps and also motives to be explained. I have to add one more question: how did the sounds that were used to vibrate this extremely hard rock, all the way through it, affect the bodies of the human beings using sonic technology to soften the rock? Or rather, how did it *not* adversely affect the human bodies? How was this sound focused and contained so that the people were not harmed? All of our modern, intense technology tends to have an impact on us and our environment. Did this? If not, why not?
Rock softening...massive blocks...assembly line...stages of production with examples and evidence. Good explanation of your theory. Just amazing to think about these ancients and their science and engineering daily capabilities.
Sounds more like concrete, made from certain stones. I've never heard of any substance on this planet that turns stone pliable without heat, except concrete.
I've heard a finishing step was gold leafed mirrors fixed on the walls surface turned the quartz into the glassy smooth surface. Apparently a geologist and engineer studied and conclude the smooth surface wasn't accomplished by abrasives or chemicals. Enjoyed your video alot,thanks.
Interesting theory. Many assumptions though!: softening solution, plant based, sonic treatment. The rocks are polymineral it is unlikely that a chemical process will work on all different minerals in the same manner. Plant based? Why? Probably very slow reaction rate! But never mind it just occurred to me that this cannot be a chemical process. A chemical process can only act on the outer surfaces ( maybe to a few microns in depth) not the internal mass of the rocks! But you made some interesting observations: for example cut rocks with a twist. Assuming sophisticated cutting tools ( Maybe not available to us to the extent that it is needed) 3d imaging technology ( available to us), computer guided shaping tech ( available to us, example cnc machining tools), tech to handle / manipulate extremely large rocks ( a problem), Sufficient energy, money etc are also needed a different philosophy concerning the required life extent of constructions for example
I agree, chemical reaction in solution does not explain softening of the rock, the only method we understand in 2021 is 'heat/molten' rock however, the process (however it was achieved) can be demonstrated using 'Therapeutic Putty' or 'Science Putty' from the Science and History museum. Put the putty in a freezer overnight. Then cut the putty into small lumps. Stack all the lumps together like a dry stone wall. Allow the putty to thaw out until it starts to soften, as it does so the lumps will 'cold flow' into each other. When the putty polygonal wall is at the desired fitted 'perfection', spray with 'Arctic Spray' to freeze (set) the putty hard again. It does not explain how Granite was softened but this demonstration does adequately demonstrate how Polygonal walls were made using 'softened stone'.
@@polygonalmasonary Heating and melting will change the mineral composition of the rock, you will be able to see the difference with the natural rock. science putty? Rocks are not science putty! Why come up with all these exotic proposals? On a small scale we can currently do what they did on a large/ enormous scale: 3D scanning, computer modelling, cnc cutting.
Its so great to finally get some rational and reasonable thoughts and ideas on how Megalithic stones were quarried, transported and put in position. I am very impressed by your videos!
Right? Instead of crediting 'aliens lol' we could finally appreciate the ingenious methods our ancient ancestors used. People have been underestimating the ancient civilizations too much.
How did you come up with a sonic saw sonic clamps and sonic softening stick like what kind of lost technology are you imagining ? I see the sonic saw had a cord going to it’s power source can you explain and Also how did they build cranes strong enough to lift stones weighing 100 tons makes zeros sense
If that rock wasn't melted with heat, any liquid, even under pressure, would at best find its way thru some cracks...or dissolve it in the case of acid. Or take thousands of years..maybe. I'm definitely listening and a well put together piece. Great job yo.
The rock was neither melted (no sign of burning) nor dissolved (it could not harden again). Instead, it was softened by some chemical agent. According to Indian legends, the juice of a rare mountain plant was used in ancient times to soften rock.
wild speculation with a lot of contradictions when looking at the sum total of the physics involved. there is no proof of softening there, you could speculate any wild theory you want, very uninformed guess as to how they actually fitted the stones, more likely by cutting, albeit with a technology we don't understand.
Check out greenpowerscience there is compelling evidence to suggest that fresnel lenses and concentrated solar can potentially melt powdered stone and small rocks together to form larger igneous and vitrified megaliths.
Harvey: Thank you for taking a fresh look at how the job may have been done. I have read some of the comments and had a good laugh at the narrow mindedness of some people. Does it really matter who did it and when? The fact was it was done by somebody and if we can find a need and desire to figure out this process, maybe we can put it to use sometime. Keep up the good work.
Thank You! and Yes,, and the narrowminded comments do come from people whom have no content on their own on their channels. It's like they're bots or something!
IMO there was no stone softening occurring. These civilizations simply had a form of concrete/mailable stone concoction that was lost over time. To us it looks 100% like solid stone, but its not.
Thank you Harvey. I appreciate how your curiosity has been charged up to find answers. When I walked around Cusco, Sacsayhuamàn, Ollantaytambo and Machu Picchu in 2004 studying the scale, polygonal relationships, precision fit and leading edge profiles with camera and sketch book my thoughts kept emphasizing sound, vibration and musical harmonics. In Precolumbian Art History I'd the heard the magical, mineral -dissolving, plant-glue-mortar theory but no mere mechanical prowess could explain the delightfully rhythmic flow of the stacking/placements. Then, before I got in trouble for going off the tourist paths, I spotted a mortise&tenon (stabilizing?) feature between two "large" (approx 3'x3'x2'deep) stones half way in on the interior, perfectly matching, faces! Ultimately, as a carpenter, bricklayer, sculptor, ceramicist, visual artist, fluteplayer and haiku poet my entrancement led me to simply agree that this work was created by, as the local, indigenous (Quechua I and II-speaking) people would say, NOT the "Incas" but "The Ancient Ones!"
How did I miss this comment 5 months ago?!! Where is this Mortis & Tenden large feature? Ollantay? Tambomachay? I'm going back to Peru next month. I'll find it! and put it into my next video. !!
Great video! The Quarry for Ollantaytambo is equally as fascinating.. Stones cut from the mountain with questions about how they got behind them to cut, and then the curious crosshatch marks. Also keep in mind they were cut, lowered to the valley, traveled 6 miles..crossing a river, then lifted up to this mountain.
Sonic tools? I'm not sure about that. Granite is cut with wire saws in a few places still. The wire is twisted to carry an abrasive through the cut. They do a marginally good job. I suspect the ancients used twine with abrasive to cut the stone. Many places clearly show stone drilling techniques that could use water and abrasive pushed through a spun hollowed out dowel. The fascination with mercury that the meso Americans had leads me to think it had something to do with their impressive stone work. Perhaps as a lubricant to move them in troughs... else as a constituent to the softening chemical? I wonder if the walls have been tested for mercury?
@@johnpepin5373 look i have no idea if they tested for it! The point was that it so toxic and it even effects the air you would breath. As for wire style or rope and abrasives I full agree with you. But sonic tools and plant based chemistry to soften granite! I mock these idiots!
@@toddcrookham515 Mercury is not that toxic. As a metal it is not toxic at all. It has to be methalated before it becomes biologically active. It is very dense though. I wonder if granite would float in it? They claim there is a huge pool of mercury under some Mexican pyramid or other. Moreover, it is easy to make, just toss Cinnabar into a fire and metallic mercury weeps out. I agree with you too, it is unlikely ancients used sonic tools and it is hard to fathom how plant chemicals could soften igneous rock.
@@johnpepin5373 yes I love how all those modern stone masons use plant based chemistry to soft rock today for shaping and cutting and quarrying granite! Oh wait they don't do that! Also like big foot where are the TLC and Discovery Channel documentaries on these Pyramids with magic pools of mercury under them. People are so inclined to believe the dumbest things in the world because they can't fathom that people could actually work that hard, focused on a goal, working near perfection in an endeavor that would not actually be completed in one's own lifetime! Today people for the most part have the attention span of about 10 minutes and they lose focus and move on to the next shiny thing! These ancient people were smart, knew higher math and were very skilled craftsman! We just can't today grasp work ethics and the pride that these people had!
I don't think they were dipped necessarily in a solution because there's giant rock cliff sides and stuff that have been softened and cut without being dipped and I doubt someone went along them and sprayed them with a spray bottle and softened the stone that deep.
So much needs to be done to understand the lost arts of the ancients to enable us to move forward without unnecessary pollution. I find it a crying shame that industry revolves around the dollar instead of the balance of nature. By causing extinction of certain wildlife we upset this balance and create plagues of pests that could easily be kept in check by the animals that once fed on them. Ancient technology and machinery could be beneficial to us today, both in understanding the past and in aiding our building methods.
Well, it's like the field of Medecine..... Humanity relied on Homeopathic solutions until Pharma came along based upon Money..... Come to think about it what is going on today with Covid is the same Formula.....
I just have one question. How do u explain the criss cross patterns found at the quarry site?? What kind of machining must have taken place to harvest that stone?
It still cones down to a: how do you soften stone without intense heat; and b: how do you move so many massive stones up a mountain? Keep in mind that the air gets thinner the higher the altitude.
I believe that it was somehow done in this way. 1. The central question, are the softened surfaces different to the stone that has not been modified? -> Spectral analysis. 2. Was it possible to glue stones together. As a side issue, there were birds that were able to make holes into rock. It was suspected a plant and maybe what was coming out of their stomach. Strong ultrasonic through their "nozzle".
Everything in the universe is vibrations and frequenties. This, in combination with geopolymer techniques, is more understandable. Only the transportatie part... maybe antigravity
then you are a fool who is probably wearing a mask right now, who believes there is a tesla zooming around in space, and that buzz aldrin went to the moon, idiot
@@UNcommonSenseAUS Is your brain working? It seems you are the mask-wearer. If you can read between the lines, you would understand I don't believe shit the establishment is telling us. Cheers anyway.
Dude…I think you hit the nail on the head here!!! That all makes so much sense! What kind of solution do you think they used? Maybe plant based? And where did u come up with the vibration theory from?? Would like to see you do another descriptive vid like u did here with ur drawings on that topic (vibration/ancient sound tech)
@@PhantomPanic explosives. You know about the 10000s Pits all around? Thats where they Places organic matter to create Potassium Nitrade. Sulfer was abondend with all the Vulcanos.
amazing, @5:30, the wall shown in the photo various stones have hieroglyphs but they are nearly worn away? how long would such stones have to be exposed to the elements before they showed this much wear is evident? 10 thousand years? are the stones subject to accelerated decrepitude because of acid rain?
I have noticed in photos that some of the finished worked stones shows distinct de lamination....natural stone does not do that . The theory of stone softening has its merits.
Perhaps at best you provide an idea. Lacking: 1. The distance of the quarry and location are vast. 2. Cranes which you suggest lack the tolerance for weight. 3. No clear indication of what the plant-based solution was used to soften the stone 4. A mystery not found in the mind of mortal man.
Yes, Your softening theory is is a good and, maybe the only way they could have done these master pieces of stoneworks But it must and have to be proved by somebody.
He is speaking of reports that the native “Montana bird” which is similar to a woodpecker, uses a leaf to help bore out a nest in stone. This leaf allegedly has softening properties.
@@caseyalexander1705 Hi! I’ve been searching for this plant substance because I want to try an experiment to see if and how this miracle plant can potentially soften stone. Do you happen to know what the plant is called? I’ve been trying to find the bird species you’ve just described hoping that I could find the plant that the bird uses to soften the stone but alas I’ve had no luck :/
Fantastic video. Thanks for creating and posting this. You continue to pose interesting and thought-provoking questions about ancient civilizations and their technologies. Looking forward to the next video!
There are several types of rocks (e.g. marble) that when first quarried are quite soft. This is due to the high moisture content. Once quarried, the rock becomes harder as it dries out (over several months). Any rock when under enough pressure will absorb water into its crystalline structure, thus weakening it. Heading a rock (that is freshly quarried and saturated with water) could weaken its crystalline structure further (i.e. make it softer). Submerging the rock in water while it is being heater will reduce the loss of moisture.
We know why Ollantaytambo was never finished. It was built to replace Cusco as the Inca capital when they were forced to flee from the Spanish. But being not far from Cusco it was eventually taken by the Spanish too. Ever since the Spanish have tried to diminish the genocide they under the Catholic Church perpetrated. This idea that a divine and incredibly advanced race built these wonders, only to have them one day inhabited by savages, has been used to give some excuse for the absolute destruction of a civilization and almost near erasing from history. These wonders stand out because they were made of stone, or sometimes precious metal, well preserved for us to see physically. All the many other accomplishments, their systems of governance, construction, religion and so much more, are just hinted at by the little that remains. The Inca didn’t create all the wonders of Peru in their short dominance of the region, they were one of many advanced civilizations that had rose and fell in the country. If it wasn’t built by Inca, it was built by a people likely to have some populations remaining in the region. It wasn’t Ancient Aliens because no field in science supports or validates that theory. Genetic research, Geological research, Ethnographic research, and many many more all fit together into a coherent narrative that archeologists use as a base line today. Science is proven wrong every day on the fringes of knowledge. However there are many understandings that go back a long time. Peruvian archeology is in its infancy. But it is growing fast. Many old assumptions will need revision. But the idea that it would have to start from scratch, just doesn’t happen that often in history. Go to Peru, see it yourself.. talk to the locals, let them tell you how ancient aliens dumps on their heritage.
I will like and share (and subscribe), you have brought yet another source of fab intel. This entire conundrum of incredible works (around the world) seemingly LONG before any of the "official" dates is a wonderful source of thought. I wish I had started my interest in this a a younger age, so I could devote a larger part of my life to find some truth in our pre-historical world... Thank you Sir.
Well , it would have to be something close to this , or it was something even further afield . Primitive methods all lack believability . They were incredibly artistic and the ends of their industries have not been found ...yet . We see highly advanced feats of architecture, that are displays of power . What I see ... no one ever talks about.... like ghost but I see the ghost of engravings . I see pictures on many of these stones ...
@Brad Ketchell An intelligent race that lived along side the dinosaurs and other mega-fauna, at a time when the earth was blooming with oversized wildlife. There was a worldwide cataclysm that severely impeded the earths ability to support such large organisms. The food sources dwindled, the oxygen levels dropped, and the mega-fauna starved into extinction, the giant people included, the earth simply couldn't support them anymore. Those who remained the longest struggled to sustain themselves, let alone keep themselves educated, eventually becoming entirely dependent on modern humans, to provide for them as slaves and sometimes as food. Humans rose up, the titans were defeated.
Great presentation. I wonder if braided spider thread, dipped in rubber, and then coated in quartz powder would make an effective wire saw for cutting these stones?
Multi ton stones moved from 6 miles away with no wheels. I would think that this so called stone softening technique would have been something the Spanish would have found out about straight away since they would have been as curious then as people are today. The oxygen is rare at those elevations. Where did the wood and rope come from to build the cranes to lift 20 ton stones. What tools did they have that could cut through granite with such precision. There was no trial and error when placing them. The weapons the Inca used against the Spanish could not cut granite. Soft stone is really a leap. Understandable since this looks like melted stone work. If it was melted it was done by a race of beings long before the Inca. The Inca just took up residence. Or lived side by side with super beings.
@@sinisteraquarian2579 the universe is theoretically infinite and approximately 14 billion years old, but you don't think intelligent life could possibly have evolved anywhere else other than earth, maybe even a scant few million years earlier, seriously?!?!?!?!/
Good video. I went there 40 years ago and it was impressive then. especially crossing the valley to the quarry on the mountain opposite. The engineering of getting these huge stones to the site was simply mind blowing.
Beautiful video. I share your pain of trying to figure out this technology. I have cut some stones with diamond disks and some stones with a lot of crystal content are so hard that they burn the disks quicky. Our way of thinking is fighting hardness with hardness. Those people, pre humans or whoever they were fought things from the inside out. They understood things from the atomic level.
Exactly. They understood igneous rock at the atomic level. They could soften it and work with it. Was it a dissolve?,, a sonic tech? or heat? Maybe a combination of all three? We haven't figured it out regardless. But clearly it is possible to soften and shape granite. Truly amazing.
@@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764 I'm trying to find a webpage I lost, I was reading it years ago. They had a theory related to the electric universe. They mentioned something about the potential charge of a star and its relation to its orbiting planets or other objects. That somehow the atomic vibration changed and caused the elements to act slightly different than what we call normal. It is possible the solar system went through some discharge phase and allowed the developement of these megaliths at least temporarily. It was a page made around the 90's, mostly text and some pictures. It was pretty interesting but I can't remember the details.
@@jrgmty7685 Interesting. But if rocks changed in composition to that degree,, then all life which is much more fragile, would have been wiped clean an gone. Am always open to cool ideas like that though!
NOT humans, I'd say. Otherwise we could be able to understand their aims and techniques in the right way as we do with any kind of complex art or architecture that are obviuosly human-made
I feel it had to be more like poured on site molten stone or clay hardeners in to animal bladder made bags. It resembles sand bags on a greater scale. They might achieved intense fire heat after the structure was built. It is very impressive and worth finding the truth to their methods
Man, interesting perspective. I remember listening to a lecture of the late L. Ron Hubbard (yes, this dude) where he was talking about how pyramids have been build with softening sticks! This lecture was given in 1952, the name of the lecture series was "Perception of Truth". Thank you for the video.
Softening and molecular manipulation was done thru use of a form of the Hutchison affect. John Hutchison has barely scratched the surface of this phenomenal science.
The site was undergoing remodelling work when abandoned. That would have been in the 1400s. Stonecraft of very high quality had been a thing for the best part of 1000 years by then. And yes, no shortage of iron (albeit expensive) iron tools. The oldest iron-mine can be found in S America and dates back 11,000 years.
You can cut rock with a wooden saw, using sand and water. Just slide the wood back and forth, drizzling on the sand, and keep the cut wet. It goes surprisingly quickly. The modern version uses tensioned steel blades, but works just the same. Look at the marble quarries (or granite blocks broken out using wedges, then cut with the saws).
1 what plant? Percey Fawcett was an Amazon explorer on one of his expeditions he came across swallows building nests in a cliff face. The birds flew up with some plant in their bill and would rub it on the rock. Somehow the plant juice would soften the rock enough for the bird to peck the rock away and by repeating this would end up with a tunnel nest in the cliff face. I've been in a jungle I'm fairly certain I'll never go back, even to look for that plant.
Since there are several dropped on the way. I should think someone would lift one and do an excavation under it. To see if there is any sign of a wooden track, bearings, cart, sled or whatever.
I believe the stone was softened by some readily available plant solution that involved the Coco plant. The Inca Histories show that they had a stone cutting solution. The archeological record shows No metal tool or wire saws. THey did not have a measuring system like standard, english, metric or egyptian . they had no written language. Rope was all they had in abundance. We believe that the Inca used a stone softening solution and rope saws to cut and fit the stones. Great video by the way. RICK
Outstanding presentation!! Great pics. Brilliant identification of clues. Definitely evidence of incredible technology no mainstream groups are willing to see. Thanks!
Reversing crystallization using cymatics alone might be possible, yet with the addition of ionization of a superconductive level, it would be an easy feat. That means using anti-gravity tech, which is really just a very efficient form of free energy by zero point. Zero point energy is a pump z carrier wave implosively folding carried waves in sync yet out of phase so they combine through the focal (nonlinear) medium. The carrier wave may be just about any shape, but is usually formed as a product of the carried waves through use of high voltage capacitor or a distributor system that shorts out 2 differing charges.
Thanks, The problem with learning new methods is the mind set of the present . Today orthodox belief can not accept these ideas and therefore can not chase them up.
By God Sir! I think you have it! As my old friend and mentor, was wont to say, " when you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.’'
I've been to Cusco, Sacsayhuaman and Ollantaytambo and had a close look at this stonework. All 'plant-based' chemical stone softening theories are apocryphal dead ends. There is zero evidence to support them and numerous obvious questions - such as which plant was used, how this chemical was produced in the vast amounts needed for these huge civil engineering projects and why it didn't eat through the ropes used to immerse these blocks into the tanks (which were themselves presumably made from a material that was also impervious to this chemical). To explain what's seen at these sites today, this chemical would also need to be something that temporarily softened the stone, then reconstituted it WITHOUT changing its crystalline structure, calcite veins etc. As a geologist friend explained to me, this is an extremely tall order. All theories regarding ancient technology/machines/power tools come with exactly the same question: What was the ancient power source? The 'sonic tools' shown in this video have cables attached but there is no explanation of what they were actually plugged into.
Amazing
You nailed the theory to its coffin. The narrator might assume well said they mixed the powdered rock and put it as a mud brick and left to dry in the sun. My hypothesis is as good as plant based softening liquid!
“somewhere between clay and whale blubber”. One thing that most people are familiar with from having handled it if only in their childhood. Another thing that most people have absolutely no frame of reference for. In case anyone is unfamiliar with it whale blubber is usually a consistency that is exactly between a peeled banana and the pancreas of a yeti. And the banana isn’t as ripe as I’d like it. It is just about how my wife likes them. So I hope that helps.
Edit: I misspelled “that”.
You can't make me laugh like this so early in the morning!
"In case anyone is unfamiliar with it whale blubber is usually a consistency that is exactly between a peeled banana and the pancreas of a yeti." I'm still wiping tears of laughter away! And then to continue with the banana's relative ripeness - hahaha, MY wife likes them with green still around the stem (yuck).
Thanks! Glad I'm not the only one.
Very funny, can you even imagine the logistical problems of moving a piece of whale blubber the size of a school bus?
.. USELESS .. WHO GIVES a FLY'N PHUCK 'about' .. MINUTIA .. Dweeb Dork
Softened rock. The bane of anyone who has been in an elevator.
It took me a minute but I got it.😁👍
Ha! Ha! Ha! Good one.
I don't get it
@@patriciajin6206 elevator music is typically soft rock music.
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This was the most interesting video I've seen in some time. Appreciate the fact that you covered everything in about 6 minutes instead of making it a 2 hour thing. You've earned my subscription and I'm going to watch your other videos for sure. To the points you make, I think you are mostly correct, with perhaps minor adjustments. Here are some thoughts supportive of your points but a variation on the softening solution. I did some digging after on the porosity of granite and there is a research paper that quantifies it. For the sound part, I think the vibration of sound in the rock could cause accelerated wetting at the micro level and speed the seeping of a liquid through the slightly porous granite. So I think the porosity of the granite could be enhanced with just an iron rod being pounded against the inner hard part of the stone to send vibrations through it. One could envision a simple hand turned device with an irregular wheel and pressure pounding on the rod many times per turn creating a jackhammer effect. So the sonic thing makes sense and could be crudely implemented. For the softening solution, it would be neat to have a mineralogist do a chemical analysis between a piece of one of the entry rocks not processed and one that had clearly been through the softening process to see if there is a different distribution of elements. I'm predicting there will be more sodium in the processed rock. The reason for this is I suspect the liquid may not be plant based but instead a sodium hydroxide NaOH (lye) solution which is very caustic and may interact with the slightly acidic SiO2 - a large component of granite and some other hard rock types. Perhaps other minerals too are slightly acid and will interact with the NaOH solution. Lye is made by leaching ash from burnt wood so it would be readily possible in any part of the world to produce it even in ancient times. I'm tempted to go and do that experiment myself to see if I can soften granite. I'm suspecting the stones are stuck together as it appears the troweling would have to be done after the two stones were in contact. Those are my thoughts - again congrats on the video. Harvey, you deserve way more subs than you currently have. All the best to you sir!
Thank You! And Yes,, I try to keep my videos as short as possible. Thank You for watching!
Well, here is the issue.. "Drexel University" proved beyond doubt(published) the Egyptian pyramids to have man made stones, by using the surrounding materials as like ancient cement. They also determined there to be natural stones acting as a filler, as the man made stones used as the outer wall and frame. . They were working off the "geopolymer institute of France" earlier work started in the late 1970s that were also piggy backing off the work from Harvard back in the 1950s.. Man made stones are now accepted in the scientific community and well documented, except in this video and the Egyptyian tour guide book.. Take a few minutes to research any of the above mentioned research.
I seen something about pure sulfur I don't remember where but I think the tech was pretty advanced when this was done something stopped everything and the tech was lost over time in the fight to survive.
@@MrWizardofozzz man made limestone blocks in the pyramids? I can’t find anything about that!
Well, the Spaniards in S. America found those plant juices by accident. Certain plants in the jungle will dissolve off your shoe heels while walking and if your sword drags thru the greenery by the time you have walked a few hours your sword is half-dissolved and you are walking on leather with no heels.
These plants don't dissolve skin or leather only rocks and metal . One conquistadore who got stuck in the jungle walking ended up getting to his destination half naked and barefoot which might have been very entertaining to the native women who might have never seen a circumsized dinky-winky before. 😂😮😊
It would seem to me that stones that heavy when softened would bulge in the middle before hardening. With out some kind of mold to keep it in place . Al those thousands of different micro angles ; I just don’t know how they kept them do flawless . Even to construct wooden molds to hold polymer stones in places would be an astonishing effort. I think you’ve got some good ideas but somethings still don’t seem to match up. It’s such a frustrating enigma . It’s as if the stone makers are mocking us
I can't explain how the rock was softened, however,
the process can be demonstrated using 'Therapeutic Putty' or 'Science Putty' from the Science and History museum.
Put the putty in a freezer overnight. Then cut the putty into small lumps.
Stack all the lumps together like a dry stone wall.
Allow the putty to thaw out until it starts to soften, as it does so the lumps will 'cold flow' into each other.
When the putty polygonal wall is at the desired fitted 'perfection', spray with 'Arctic Spray' to freeze (set) the putty hard again.
It does not explain how Granite was softened but this demonstration does adequately demonstrate how Polygonal walls were made using 'softened stone'.
If they were cut square why not use them square? It's easy to fit squared blocks tightly if straight. Why did they change the shape. That is the bit that makes me wonder!
@@barrymayson2492out of necessity, maybe because of the frequent earthquakes? Square blocks rattle apart, but the fitted stone walls have endured thousands of years of earthquakes.
@@barrymayson2492 from what I've gathered from information presented to me, they did this to create earthquake proof structures. That's why they still stand today... millenia later
Maybe there were magma tubes that glowed from an active volcano and they had molds that would fill up with magma. That would explain the intense heat?
Excellent clue evidence of stone softening. However, three problems: 1. why spoil the plausibility of this theory by invoking unnecessary sonic tools that require power sources equivalent to those of the modern era - an idea that scientists would not accept? 2. How could immersion of something like a block of andesite in a tank of liquid result in the latter soaking through its bulk so as to soften it? It is apparent that ALL the volume of a block was softened, not just its surface, as the fine wire cutting indicates. But this would require the softening agent to soak deep into the hard stone? It is hard to believe this is possible, but I suppose all bets are off until we find what softening chemicals were used (perhaps the juices of a certain plant, according to legends). 3. What were the knobs on the faces of some blocks for and how were they formed, given that the raw, cut blocks would have had smooth surfaces? The softening theory needs to be able to account for them as well.
Stephen, Thank You for your comments! In my last two videos I mention the use of a sonic soft-stick to soften the stone and to stear it into position. And in my latest video 'The Math and Science' illustrates this even more. I hope this helps.
It all boils down to chemistry and a PH scale...One would think if a team of today's top Chemists were
hired to study this process It wouldn't take them long to solve all the mysteries we discuss today
Unfortunately, it didn't answer my questions. But at least we both agree that there is a real problem to solve, unlike archaeologists with their stone pounders and bronze chisels. Sonic tools fail to solve the issue satisfactorily because they would, presumably, require the application of electrical power. Did the builders trek up the mountains with large batteries on the backs of llamas? I doubt it. And so would scientists, because the notion implies technological advancement of a degree for which no other evidence exists. The notion of powered tools is therefore as poor an explanation as invoking aliens.
andesite is igneous rock and main constituent are silica so like granite it is impervious to water the only thing that dissolve these type of rock is hydrofluoric acid
@@al2207 We are not talking about dissolving. The rocks were softened, not dissolved in any way.
I don’t really see how you can pick up 100 tons and plop it somewhere. Any place unsupported would just blob out on the ground. Explaining how they transported and lifted them is almost as important as explaining how they shaped them.
I guess he is trying to form a hypothesis based on what is available, there are no clues to the moving of them. What we know is that somehow they got them down one side of the valley across the river and up the other side, and of the stones that are left on the path up, there is not enough path space for 500 men up each diagonal even if you want to try explain away the movement by mass manpower.
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They also didn’t have steel or metallurgy, so I’m not sure how they’d get ropes and cranes strong enough to lift these. [correction: i did find a video testing inca ropes breaking strength, and they were capable of pulling thousands of pounds. From the inca road symposium videos.]
He mentioned it would make the rock the consistency of clay. Large clay block could be picked up and moved into place without becoming a blob. I think his theory is that this softened the rock not liquified it. All I can say is that his theory is much better for what we observe at these sites than what the archeologists want us to believe. (Hand tools made from copper and sharpened bone)
@@OverlandOne i haven’t heard archeologists saying that these were made with copper and bone tools. At machu picchu have even found stones that they used for chipping away chunks. In egypt they did used copper drag saws to cut the blocks, with quartz powder for the abrasion. That explains some of the saw cut marks. You might want to check out the World of Antiquity Sacsayhuaman video for an interesting hypothesis on how they got the blocks to fit so well together.
So they had beautifully cut straight and flat stones, and... they didn’t use them that way? Instead they softened them so they could create weird non-rectangular shapes to stack together? Really?!? To quote the Beatles, “Tell me whyyyyyy.”
More stable especially in earthquakes
That's true. Very effective. Some one did a test on these kinds of shapes and they test blocks didn't budge. It was smaller scale of course.
its called art
Help me here. They were saw-cut from the quarry, which is part of the natural bedrock and transported to the site. But for some reason they could not bring those saws to the site to remove and level out some bedrock sticking out of the footpaths?
I do appreciate the out of the box thinking along with animations. These builders were extremely clever... and by the size of the largest wall blocks we can get a scope of what was the maximum weight they could manage. Which is honestly amazing considering the terrain.
Best Regards.
I agree with you, the quarrying process has been 'skipped over', however,
the building process can be demonstrated using 'Therapeutic Putty' or 'Science Putty' from the Science and History museum.
Put the putty in a freezer overnight. Then cut the putty into small lumps.
Stack all the lumps together like a dry stone wall.
Allow the putty to thaw out until it starts to soften, as it does so the lumps will 'cold flow' into each other.
When the putty polygonal wall is at the desired fitted 'perfection', spray with 'Arctic Spray' to freeze (set) the putty hard again.
It does not explain how Granite was softened but this demonstration does adequately demonstrate how Polygonal walls were made using 'softened stone'.
@꧁༒Set Apart༒꧂ That's a good point.
I understand from another blog that they cut the stone away from the cliffs,pulverized it at that location,transported it in sacks to the construction site,than poured into molds the shapes required.
You will note that the color of all these stones are uniform,much like the concrete block,s seen at places like Hoover Dam.
@@richardconner5880 that is still an undiscovered technique. We cant just grind any stone and make it back into solid blocks like baking bread.
@@charlesco7413 SEE Hoover dam.
Great work. Amazing. I was a quarry man. I worked ina granite quarry for a few years. I believe your theory. Along those same lines, I believe that there's so much we don't know about the power of vibrations. Extracting granite from the earth has got to be one of the most difficult tasks known to man. Having the ability to soften the stone is a total game changer. Thanks for the video
There are plants that grow in the area that produce an acid that can be used to soften rocks. Explorers noticed that their boots spurs and weapons blunted very quickly when traversing the nearby jungles. When they asked the locals they explained that certain plants produced an acid, they showed the explorers birds that nested in cliff faces that used the leaves to carve out their nests using their beaks into the cliff face.
There is your answer, they copied the natural world as always.
So did those people were sending huge amounts of that plant to other places on earth where different meghalitic sites were constructed?
@@hiamaraldvaan7221 no , its probe that they use cheasels and stone , and some metals like cooper , even iron , and water with abrasive rocks , of course the know to work with it
Plants around the area probably have Hf(Hydrofluoric Acid) in them. Hf can eat away at granite and dolerite rock,making it easier for a copper or bronze wire saw to cut through and helps with the "sanding" of the rock for fit perfection. Still not sure about rock "softening". Seems to me, they put the stones up against one another and pour the acid in between them. The acid eats away at the stone faces and "softens" them up so that a wire saw can be used in between them to give them a tight perfect fit. And, these plants were and still are found all over the world.
These are unproven le genes however.
What are the names of these legendary plants?
Interesting. Could you explain the sonic requirements and how this was performed. And how they lifted 100 ton blocks into the tanks?
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@fastguitar Sorry, but he never answered how it was softened. NOTHING about what plant is used or how it would soften rock.
He shows drawings of cranes.
@@zeuso.1947 it is just a clue and not an answer to the solving the riddle of the question.
@@charlesco7413 It's not even a clue. A clue is based on some kind of evidence. There is NO CLUE of how the stone was softened. Says it was a plant without naming the plant? That's pure fantasy.
Sonic Clamp? Sonic Soft Stick? Yeah OK sure.
Until someone, anyone, comes up with actual proof (video in front of live audience ) that stone can be "softened" and shaped to this extent, I'm calling all this out as complete horseshit!
ohhhhmmmmmmmmm
Let's assume all this is true, but why made such damned huge stones? It's if lifting the stones was easier than cutting them ....
Very silly
Yea and the plant solution that melts them. Not the liquid from an acid pool or anything like that. What specific plant juice can do such things as melt rock?
@@nedwalport4426 they used sonic resonance to achieve sonic-levitation to lift and move monolithic stones ( this us seen all around the world)
They definitely had more advanced technology than we give them credit for. It’s funny how no one in the mainstream wants to discuss exactly how the structures were created. Sad...
@@ezicarus8216 Stone hammer and copper chisel... lol...
ez icarus I’m sure they utilized more things than that. Probably cranes or lifts, maybe electricity and definitely mathematics.
@FullBlown Melting the stone would be evident, and relatively easy to detect, because it would alter the composition. Whatever process these stones went through they remain identical to natural formed stone.
@@tjwoosta I've seen it suggested that softened stone was discovered in a cave pool, and humans then copied nature's process. If knowledge was shared only orally, its plausible this process could have become a lost art. Wouldn't it be interesting if someone figures out how to use gravel and modern advantages to further Edison's vision of casting monolithic structures, but in stone?
Humanity began at the pinnacle, then rebellion and destruction, quarantined and finally confinement. The beast is not allowed to explore the universe.
@Harvey Turner fantastic! I eagerly await your demonstration of this groundbreaking technology. I am particularly keen to watch you employing the sonic clamp. This is going to revolutionise the construction industry.
However it was done, it lasts much longer than anything we build today. Even the Romans had concrete that set underwater, concrete that floated etc.
I agree with you 100% yet archeologists will tell us these people were very skilled and were able to make these rocks fit together using pieces of sharpened copper and bone using a lot of elbow grease. To that I say poppycock. Common sense should tell anyone that looked at these joints and the similar stone work at the other sites you mentioned, that something else was happening there and your theory works for me. It's either that or lasers but certainly not crude hand tools.
Perhaps the stones were actually soft sedimentary layers that were easily sawn.
Moved shaped like clay. And once exposed to sun and air hardened. Explaining why they didn’t/couldn’t deal with the already exposed naturally formed rocks that were in the way and had to be worked around. That would explain a lot.
You are the first to properly analyse the entire process and inform the world how it was done. Now it's up to the scientists to solve the chemical and (ultra)sonic problems!
The process can be demonstrated using 'Therapeutic Putty' or 'Science Putty' from the Science and History museum.
Put the putty in a freezer overnight. Then cut the putty into small lumps.
Stack all the lumps together like a dry stone wall.
Allow the putty to thaw out until it starts to soften, as it does so the lumps will 'cold flow' into each other.
When the putty polygonal wall is at the desired fitted 'perfection', spray with 'Arctic Spray' to freeze (set) the putty hard again.
It does not explain how Granite was softened but this demonstration does adequately demonstrate how Polygonal walls were made using 'softened stone'.
If the stones were cut straight why not stack them as they were? Plus if the stones were soft the lifting nobbs on the side would also have been soft. Too soft to be lifting nobbs. Interesting idea but might still need a little more thought.
Straight = structurally weak. These walls lean into each other making them lock, so to speak. Same principle in the columns of the Parthenon. Somewhat.
Interlocking stones = Earhquake Proof
There is a reason for not stacking them straight up. Stone masons will tell you why. It is for stability and rigidity. Stones that are stacked up not in straight line but with irregular formation provides the structure with stability where its integrity is not compromised when there is minor upheaval, e.g. when an earthquake occurs nearby. Of course if the earthquake occurs at its exact location the whole structure would crumble. But with irregular lining up such structures could withstand the impact of earthquakes occurring nearby.
Good Theory, but I have had dreams of how they did it. Different shape animal hides were used to hold the stone chips when they were mixed together it appeared to be a vibration from a rod attached to a machine, not heat, stones were added as it became liquid to fill it to the top. The bumps are legs or other protruding parts of the mold from the animal hides. Sometimes the rod that liquified the stone would be put in where the bump was. On occasion silver powder would be rubbed on the inner part of the animal hide and when the process was complete it would have a beautiful shine. Large rocks that were molded were not hides stiched together but were from very large animals. Other human like species used cutting saws and hand held laser tools. The H Stones of Puma Punka were cut and levitated by machines. The fort/station at Puma Punka was only inhabited for a very short period due to the engineers had to leave and could not leave it in tack due to having another group or species use there facility. It was destroyed by a single blast from there ship from about 15 to 20 thousand feet above. These short type human people worked in Egypt and other areas. Statues of them are in museums. We today look at these statues and have no idea of the history of those workers.
Potentially they softened this stones with resonance of the electrons that form the bonds. This potentially disrupts gravity if done correctly. It can be accomplished with a mix of magnetic fields and the correct sound. Not sure if this sort of thing could be done without electricity
Right on, Harvey Turner. It's pretty clear that an ancient civilization melted huge stones to shape them. What needs to happen is an expedition to find the flowers that melt rock which have been mentioned several times through history, and then some experimenting to see how to do this ourselves. Seems kind of obvious. Thank you for putting this out there, it's good that people talk about this stuff.
Maybe it wasn’t a plant extract but rather just petroleum. Please see my most recent video in this topic! Thanks for watching!
I like your assessment of the processing and I assume that the waste stone would be at the site in the form of buried debris such as sand or fragmentary offcuts. With that amount of reductive shaping and shaving, I would think there is something to find in the area. Has anyone heard of any example of this? ...or even the discussion of this obvious piece of the puzzle.
The tailings have to be somewhere.
I think this movie shows an alternate method which makes sense and is worth the watch.
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Tailings, grout,, and the scraps are what my next video is going to be all about! Very Soon. Thank You! -HT
How come they're not fat at the bottom
@@ryanb8487 they are not female
But makes me wonder, why if they had the ability of cutting and transforming perfectly straight-square stones, why would it be desirable or necessary to lay the stones in random odd shapes ?
Makes them interlock like a puzzle, so the walls are earthquake proof
It is most likely that all those stones weren't softened but cast in place. Geopolimers. Concrete. Paleomagnetism should be done.
@penial refractuator I agree. Certain earth processes create the perfect conditions for naturally fast forming super hard concrete. We have known the process most likely since observing it happen an unknown number of years ago.
@penial refractuator easily!!😉👍
I totally agree
The fact that we know where many of the quarries are that was the source of many of the sites that used softened stone complicates that geopolymer theory but there could have been a variety of methods tailored to the specific type of stone to achieve the end result so I wouldn't discount the man-made stone theory.
So they made millions of different casts ? Because no 2 stones are the same. Doesn't make sense
We have very advanced chemists in modern day. You would think they could re-create the chemical compound used to "soften" the stone. Especially since they know the general area to search for that herb/plant you spoke of.
Interesting, so the notches are always on the lower part of the rock because they used the sonic tool to vibrate them into their final shape.
It would be easier to believe they ground the desired type of stone to a fine powder and made a clay out of it with some unknown liquid compound. The powdered rock could be hauled up and down the mountains in manageable lots rather than trying to haul a 100 ton block.
I find it more logical to believe that granite and rhyolite can be softened to a clay moldable point. Then it hardens back to normal given some time.
Demonstrate it please, otherwise it's not even a hypothesis but only wild speculation.
When was the last time a theoretical physicist demonstrated anything?
@@arroyodave5845 EVERYTIME they were worth paying attention to. Have you not heard of telescopes, CMB, accelerators, etc? How about nuclear reactors and bombs, did you think they came from children's books? Heard of transistors maybe? How about GPS or airliners, cars, radios....???
@@Mrbfgray exactly one thing is to say how things work and another is to build them.
@@arroyodave5845 And they state there theories as facts like the Theory of relativity, big bang, gravitational waves, electrons and many more and take a fact with proof right in front of them and deny its authenticity or claim it's a hoax or never existed if it doesn't fit their divide,distract, depopulate agenda.
Wouldn't a geopolymer make way more since, it could explain the pillowy look of the stones due to bulging forms just like pouring concrete today.
Hi, you've obviously put a lot of effort into this presentation, well done.
I'm a scientist and engineer, so approaching ideas with caution and skepticism is a must.
If you could physically recreate the mechanisms by which they lifted the stone that would be impressive, but to make a fully functioning sonic bath that can prove that one can achieve blubberfication of granite...I know some people that would be very interested in your findings.
Ps if you can do all that, I'd love to present your work to my university.
I like the fact we have the internet. It helps us share ideas. It also is a record of who came up with a theory of stone softening.
Don’t those stones really only fit on the front face. The stones are getting our on the sides and to the back and the cuts are not as precise. Somehow, this doesn’t add up. They have the ability to precisely cut blocks and move them and then, instead of assembling those precisely cut blocks, they get all wiggly and put them in these odd forms. I cannot follow the line of logic all the way through.
The first part was interesting until u started talking about how the stones were softened, cant u people admit that u dont know how, its not a crime
I have been there and the stone work is truly amazing. So do you have any idea how to soften such hard stone? Remember the stones were being lifted and handled and put in place while soft according to your theory. How? Some stones that were not put place that could be examined away from the wall showed smoothing at the edges. How does this figure in to your theory?
It is a common fact that the Inca have mastered every game on the Sega Genesis.
this is the comment i was looking for :)
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Actually the Inca didn't do it. That is according to them.
Maybe the plant they used is what they were growing in the terraces around Machu Picchu. Also, the nubs remind me of braille. Like maybe they relayed info about the structure or were like how we put numbers on our buildings. Great video man keep it up, I'm subbing.
These ideas are interesting and I like your investigative process of looking for clues at the site. Several of the questions asked below also occurred to me -- which I am not sure I have heard definitively answered yet. There are certainly gaps and also motives to be explained. I have to add one more question: how did the sounds that were used to vibrate this extremely hard rock, all the way through it, affect the bodies of the human beings using sonic technology to soften the rock? Or rather, how did it *not* adversely affect the human bodies? How was this sound focused and contained so that the people were not harmed? All of our modern, intense technology tends to have an impact on us and our environment. Did this? If not, why not?
Frequencies effect different materials
Rock softening...massive blocks...assembly line...stages of production with examples and evidence. Good explanation of your theory. Just amazing to think about these ancients and their science and engineering daily capabilities.
The modern person thinks people in the past were unshaven dummies that didn't use mathematics 🙄
Sounds more like concrete, made from certain stones. I've never heard of any substance on this planet that turns stone pliable without heat, except concrete.
Cause its tech from another world.
The rock quarry would be the elephant in the room
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I've heard a finishing step was gold leafed mirrors fixed on the walls surface turned the quartz into the glassy smooth surface. Apparently a geologist and engineer studied and conclude the smooth surface wasn't accomplished by abrasives or chemicals. Enjoyed your video alot,thanks.
Interesting theory. Many assumptions though!: softening solution, plant based, sonic treatment. The rocks are polymineral it is unlikely that a chemical process will work on all different minerals in the same manner. Plant based? Why? Probably very slow reaction rate! But never mind it just occurred to me that this cannot be a chemical process. A chemical process can only act on the outer surfaces ( maybe to a few microns in depth) not the internal mass of the rocks!
But you made some interesting observations: for example cut rocks with a twist.
Assuming sophisticated cutting tools ( Maybe not available to us to the extent that it is needed) 3d imaging technology ( available to us), computer guided shaping tech ( available to us, example cnc machining tools), tech to handle / manipulate extremely large rocks ( a problem), Sufficient energy, money etc are also needed a different philosophy concerning the required life extent of constructions for example
I agree, chemical reaction in solution does not explain softening of the rock, the only method we understand in 2021 is 'heat/molten' rock however,
the process (however it was achieved) can be demonstrated using 'Therapeutic Putty' or 'Science Putty' from the Science and History museum.
Put the putty in a freezer overnight. Then cut the putty into small lumps.
Stack all the lumps together like a dry stone wall.
Allow the putty to thaw out until it starts to soften, as it does so the lumps will 'cold flow' into each other.
When the putty polygonal wall is at the desired fitted 'perfection', spray with 'Arctic Spray' to freeze (set) the putty hard again.
It does not explain how Granite was softened but this demonstration does adequately demonstrate how Polygonal walls were made using 'softened stone'.
@@polygonalmasonary Heating and melting will change the mineral composition of the rock, you will be able to see the difference with the natural rock. science putty? Rocks are not science putty! Why come up with all these exotic proposals? On a small scale we can currently do what they did on a large/ enormous scale: 3D scanning, computer modelling, cnc cutting.
Hi, Just one quick question ?
Have stones from the sites been examined for any evidence of GeoPolymers ?
Its so great to finally get some rational and reasonable thoughts and ideas on how Megalithic stones were quarried, transported and put in position. I am very impressed by your videos!
Right? Instead of crediting 'aliens lol' we could finally appreciate the ingenious methods our ancient ancestors used. People have been underestimating the ancient civilizations too much.
How did you come up with a sonic saw sonic clamps and sonic softening stick like what kind of lost technology are you imagining ? I see the sonic saw had a cord going to it’s power source can you explain and Also how did they build cranes strong enough to lift stones weighing 100 tons makes zeros sense
If that rock wasn't melted with heat, any liquid, even under pressure, would at best find its way thru some cracks...or dissolve it in the case of acid. Or take thousands of years..maybe. I'm definitely listening and a well put together piece. Great job yo.
The rock was neither melted (no sign of burning) nor dissolved (it could not harden again). Instead, it was softened by some chemical agent. According to Indian legends, the juice of a rare mountain plant was used in ancient times to soften rock.
wild speculation with a lot of contradictions when looking at the sum total of the physics involved. there is no proof of softening there, you could speculate any wild theory you want, very uninformed guess as to how they actually fitted the stones, more likely by cutting, albeit with a technology we don't understand.
we do understand. it's called hard work and plenty of time to do it.
Believable but more evidence would be needed.However aside of heating and melting,this is a likely hypothesis .Thank you for sharing.
Please. evidence
Check out greenpowerscience there is compelling evidence to suggest that fresnel lenses and concentrated solar can potentially melt powdered stone and small rocks together to form larger igneous and vitrified megaliths.
Harvey: Thank you for taking a fresh look at how the job may have been done. I have read some of the comments and had a good laugh at the narrow mindedness of some people. Does it really matter who did it and when? The fact was it was done by somebody and if we can find a need and desire to figure out this process, maybe we can put it to use sometime. Keep up the good work.
Thank You! and Yes,, and the narrowminded comments do come from people whom have no content on their own on their channels. It's like they're bots or something!
Excellent right up to 2:44 Totally impressive chain of observations. Thank you, Stan
IMO there was no stone softening occurring. These civilizations simply had a form of concrete/mailable stone concoction that was lost over time. To us it looks 100% like solid stone, but its not.
Thank you Harvey.
I appreciate how your curiosity has been charged up to find answers.
When I walked around Cusco, Sacsayhuamàn, Ollantaytambo and Machu Picchu in 2004 studying the scale, polygonal relationships, precision fit and leading edge profiles with camera and sketch book my thoughts kept emphasizing sound, vibration and musical harmonics.
In Precolumbian Art History I'd the heard the magical, mineral -dissolving, plant-glue-mortar theory but no mere mechanical prowess could explain the delightfully rhythmic flow of the stacking/placements. Then, before I got in trouble for going off the tourist paths, I spotted a mortise&tenon (stabilizing?) feature between two "large" (approx 3'x3'x2'deep) stones half way in on the interior, perfectly matching, faces!
Ultimately, as a carpenter, bricklayer, sculptor, ceramicist, visual artist, fluteplayer and haiku poet my entrancement led me to simply agree that this work was created by, as the local, indigenous (Quechua I and II-speaking) people would say, NOT the "Incas" but
"The Ancient Ones!"
How did I miss this comment 5 months ago?!!
Where is this Mortis & Tenden large feature? Ollantay? Tambomachay? I'm going back to Peru next month. I'll find it! and put it into my next video. !!
@@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764 Sacsayhuaman...that find was serendipty; it would be so tricky to find.
Great video! The Quarry for Ollantaytambo is equally as fascinating.. Stones cut from the mountain with questions about how they got behind them to cut, and then the curious crosshatch marks. Also keep in mind they were cut, lowered to the valley, traveled 6 miles..crossing a river, then lifted up to this mountain.
Sonic tools? I'm not sure about that.
Granite is cut with wire saws in a few places still. The wire is twisted to carry an abrasive through the cut. They do a marginally good job. I suspect the ancients used twine with abrasive to cut the stone. Many places clearly show stone drilling techniques that could use water and abrasive pushed through a spun hollowed out dowel.
The fascination with mercury that the meso Americans had leads me to think it had something to do with their impressive stone work. Perhaps as a lubricant to move them in troughs... else as a constituent to the softening chemical? I wonder if the walls have been tested for mercury?
Mercury is so toxic it would remain in soils and anywhere it was used.
@@toddcrookham515 Have they looked for it?
@@johnpepin5373 look i have no idea if they tested for it! The point was that it so toxic and it even effects the air you would breath. As for wire style or rope and abrasives I full agree with you. But sonic tools and plant based chemistry to soften granite! I mock these idiots!
@@toddcrookham515 Mercury is not that toxic. As a metal it is not toxic at all. It has to be methalated before it becomes biologically active. It is very dense though. I wonder if granite would float in it?
They claim there is a huge pool of mercury under some Mexican pyramid or other. Moreover, it is easy to make, just toss Cinnabar into a fire and metallic mercury weeps out.
I agree with you too, it is unlikely ancients used sonic tools and it is hard to fathom how plant chemicals could soften igneous rock.
@@johnpepin5373 yes I love how all those modern stone masons use plant based chemistry to soft rock today for shaping and cutting and quarrying granite! Oh wait they don't do that! Also like big foot where are the TLC and Discovery Channel documentaries on these Pyramids with magic pools of mercury under them. People are so inclined to believe the dumbest things in the world because they can't fathom that people could actually work that hard, focused on a goal, working near perfection in an endeavor that would not actually be completed in one's own lifetime! Today people for the most part have the attention span of about 10 minutes and they lose focus and move on to the next shiny thing! These ancient people were smart, knew higher math and were very skilled craftsman! We just can't today grasp work ethics and the pride that these people had!
I don't think they were dipped necessarily in a solution because there's giant rock cliff sides and stuff that have been softened and cut without being dipped and I doubt someone went along them and sprayed them with a spray bottle and softened the stone that deep.
So much needs to be done to understand the lost arts of the ancients to enable us to move forward without unnecessary pollution. I find it a crying shame that industry revolves around the dollar instead of the balance of nature. By causing extinction of certain wildlife we upset this balance and create plagues of pests that could easily be kept in check by the animals that once fed on them.
Ancient technology and machinery could be beneficial to us today, both in understanding the past and in aiding our building methods.
Well, it's like the field of Medecine.....
Humanity relied on Homeopathic solutions until Pharma came along based upon Money.....
Come to think about it what is going on today with Covid is the same Formula.....
I just have one question. How do u explain the criss cross patterns found at the quarry site?? What kind of machining must have taken place to harvest that stone?
It still cones down to a: how do you soften stone without intense heat; and b: how do you move so many massive stones up a mountain? Keep in mind that the air gets thinner the higher the altitude.
Please see my most recent video on this topic!
I believe that it was somehow done in this way.
1. The central question, are the softened surfaces different to the stone that has not been modified? -> Spectral analysis.
2. Was it possible to glue stones together.
As a side issue, there were birds that were able to make holes into rock. It was suspected a plant and maybe what was coming out of their stomach. Strong ultrasonic through their "nozzle".
I believe The Hutchinson Effect and or vibration had a part in this.
Yes, he turned metal into a soft material used modulated RF frequencies. That makes more sense then plant soaks...
Everything in the universe is vibrations and frequenties. This, in combination with geopolymer techniques, is more understandable. Only the transportatie part... maybe antigravity
then you are a fool who is probably wearing a mask right now, who believes there is a tesla zooming around in space, and that buzz aldrin went to the moon,
idiot
@@UNcommonSenseAUS
Is your brain working? It seems you are the mask-wearer. If you can read between the lines, you would understand I don't believe shit the establishment is telling us. Cheers anyway.
@@noconsent5902 I wasn't talking to you champ, that was directed at the post thats why its not @your name...
Dude…I think you hit the nail on the head here!!! That all makes so much sense! What kind of solution do you think they used? Maybe plant based? And where did u come up with the vibration theory from?? Would like to see you do another descriptive vid like u did here with ur drawings on that topic (vibration/ancient sound tech)
Thank You. And Yes, I have been considering doing another illustrated video. Something a little better than this one.
I believe they used granite and crushed and mixed it with volcanic mortar Creating a cement Which would harden like a rock because it’s made of rocks
And exactly how did they crush said granite?
@@PhantomPanic good question - nicely put ha ha. Flaws abound*
@@PhantomPanic explosives. You know about the 10000s Pits all around? Thats where they Places organic matter to create Potassium Nitrade. Sulfer was abondend with all the Vulcanos.
amazing, @5:30, the wall shown in the photo various stones have hieroglyphs but they are nearly worn away? how long would such stones have to be exposed to the elements before they showed this much wear is evident? 10 thousand years? are the stones subject to accelerated decrepitude because of acid rain?
They still had to cut out the stone, and why would they
Build this way
They were built this way to withstand earthquakes ect !
I have noticed in photos that some of the finished worked stones shows distinct de lamination....natural stone does not do that . The theory of stone softening has its merits.
The stones are very heavy, if the stones had been soften, it would not be possible to lift them.
Good point. Hmmmmm back to the drawing board.
...and the nubs/notches to facilitate crane gripping would fail, too
@@richardsilva-spokane3436 Yes, good point. perhaps it was all done by sonic means, in situ
Perhaps at best you provide an idea. Lacking: 1. The distance of the quarry and location are vast. 2. Cranes which you suggest lack the tolerance for weight. 3. No clear indication of what the plant-based solution was used to soften the stone 4. A mystery not found in the mind of mortal man.
Loved it! Been there. Awesome visuals. Interesting theory about sonic?
Yes, Your softening theory is is a good and, maybe the only way they could have done these master pieces of stoneworks But it must and have to be proved by somebody.
So, now you’ll show the evidence of the “plant based stone softening solution” you speak of?
Extracted from sonic trees while cutting off the trees' sonic sticks.
He is speaking of reports that the native “Montana bird” which is similar to a woodpecker, uses a leaf to help bore out a nest in stone. This leaf allegedly has softening properties.
He's been using the plant-based brain softening solution so he's not far off discovering the plant-based stoned softening solution.
@@caseyalexander1705 Hi! I’ve been searching for this plant substance because I want to try an experiment to see if and how this miracle plant can potentially soften stone.
Do you happen to know what the plant is called? I’ve been trying to find the bird species you’ve just described hoping that I could find the plant that the bird uses to soften the stone but alas I’ve had no luck :/
It was mining acid and only used on the face side for cosmetic appeal.
can you provide any viewable examples where this process is duplicated? or how they go about softening the stone?
Fantastic video. Thanks for creating and posting this. You continue to pose interesting and thought-provoking questions about ancient civilizations and their technologies. Looking forward to the next video!
There are several types of rocks (e.g. marble) that when first quarried are quite soft. This is due to the high moisture content. Once quarried, the rock becomes harder as it dries out (over several months). Any rock when under enough pressure will absorb water into its crystalline structure, thus weakening it. Heading a rock (that is freshly quarried and saturated with water) could weaken its crystalline structure further (i.e. make it softer). Submerging the rock in water while it is being heater will reduce the loss of moisture.
Typo. Heating a rock...
We know why Ollantaytambo was never finished. It was built to replace Cusco as the Inca capital when they were forced to flee from the Spanish. But being not far from Cusco it was eventually taken by the Spanish too. Ever since the Spanish have tried to diminish the genocide they under the Catholic Church perpetrated. This idea that a divine and incredibly advanced race built these wonders, only to have them one day inhabited by savages, has been used to give some excuse for the absolute destruction of a civilization and almost near erasing from history. These wonders stand out because they were made of stone, or sometimes precious metal, well preserved for us to see physically. All the many other accomplishments, their systems of governance, construction, religion and so much more, are just hinted at by the little that remains. The Inca didn’t create all the wonders of Peru in their short dominance of the region, they were one of many advanced civilizations that had rose and fell in the country. If it wasn’t built by Inca, it was built by a people likely to have some populations remaining in the region. It wasn’t Ancient Aliens because no field in science supports or validates that theory. Genetic research, Geological research, Ethnographic research, and many many more all fit together into a coherent narrative that archeologists use as a base line today. Science is proven wrong every day on the fringes of knowledge. However there are many understandings that go back a long time. Peruvian archeology is in its infancy. But it is growing fast. Many old assumptions will need revision. But the idea that it would have to start from scratch, just doesn’t happen that often in history. Go to Peru, see it yourself.. talk to the locals, let them tell you how ancient aliens dumps on their heritage.
I will like and share (and subscribe), you have brought yet another source of fab intel. This entire conundrum of incredible works (around the world) seemingly LONG before any of the "official" dates is a wonderful source of thought. I wish I had started my interest in this a a younger age, so I could devote a larger part of my life to find some truth in our pre-historical world... Thank you Sir.
Well , it would have to be something close to this , or it was something even further afield . Primitive methods all lack believability .
They were incredibly artistic and the ends of their industries have not been found ...yet .
We see highly advanced feats of architecture, that are displays of power .
What I see ... no one ever talks about.... like ghost but I see the ghost of engravings . I see pictures on many of these stones ...
@Praque Forqsk very good questions ...
@Praque Forqsk I like it
Praque Forqsk lets get those pyramids back on line and build a 1000ft tall statue of Elon musk.
@Brad Ketchell An intelligent race that lived along side the dinosaurs and other mega-fauna, at a time when the earth was blooming with oversized wildlife. There was a worldwide cataclysm that severely impeded the earths ability to support such large organisms. The food sources dwindled, the oxygen levels dropped, and the mega-fauna starved into extinction, the giant people included, the earth simply couldn't support them anymore. Those who remained the longest struggled to sustain themselves, let alone keep themselves educated, eventually becoming entirely dependent on modern humans, to provide for them as slaves and sometimes as food. Humans rose up, the titans were defeated.
Great presentation. I wonder if braided spider thread, dipped in rubber, and then coated in quartz powder would make an effective wire saw for cutting these stones?
Multi ton stones moved from 6 miles away with no wheels. I would think that this so called stone softening technique would have been something the Spanish would have found out about straight away since they would have been as curious then as people are today. The oxygen is rare at those elevations. Where did the wood and rope come from to build the cranes to lift 20 ton stones. What tools did they have that could cut through granite with such precision. There was no trial and error when placing them. The weapons the Inca used against the Spanish could not cut granite. Soft stone is really a leap. Understandable since this looks like melted stone work. If it was melted it was done by a race of beings long before the Inca. The Inca just took up residence. Or lived side by side with super beings.
The Inca didn’t know how to do it. Despite all their torture and murder the Spanish were too late just like the Inca.
The knowledge was gone
Softening stone is a stretch? But aliens is plausible huh?
@@sinisteraquarian2579 the universe is theoretically infinite and approximately 14 billion years old, but you don't think intelligent life could possibly have evolved anywhere else other than earth, maybe even a scant few million years earlier, seriously?!?!?!?!/
Good video. I went there 40 years ago and it was impressive then. especially crossing the valley to the quarry on the mountain opposite. The engineering of getting these huge stones to the site was simply mind blowing.
Beautiful video. I share your pain of trying to figure out this technology. I have cut some stones with diamond disks and some stones with a lot of crystal content are so hard that they burn the disks quicky. Our way of thinking is fighting hardness with hardness. Those people, pre humans or whoever they were fought things from the inside out. They understood things from the atomic level.
Exactly. They understood igneous rock at the atomic level. They could soften it and work with it. Was it a dissolve?,, a sonic tech? or heat? Maybe a combination of all three? We haven't figured it out regardless. But clearly it is possible to soften and shape granite. Truly amazing.
@@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764 I'm trying to find a webpage I lost, I was reading it years ago. They had a theory related to the electric universe. They mentioned something about the potential charge of a star and its relation to its orbiting planets or other objects. That somehow the atomic vibration changed and caused the elements to act slightly different than what we call normal. It is possible the solar system went through some discharge phase and allowed the developement of these megaliths at least temporarily. It was a page made around the 90's, mostly text and some pictures. It was pretty interesting but I can't remember the details.
@@jrgmty7685 Interesting. But if rocks changed in composition to that degree,, then all life which is much more fragile, would have been wiped clean an gone.
Am always open to cool ideas like that though!
@@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764 yeah that's a problem
NOT humans, I'd say. Otherwise we could be able to understand their aims and techniques in the right way as we do with any kind of complex art or architecture that are obviuosly human-made
I feel it had to be more like poured on site molten stone or clay hardeners in to animal bladder made bags. It resembles sand bags on a greater scale.
They might achieved intense fire heat after the structure was built.
It is very impressive and worth finding the truth to their methods
People knew this softening technique all over the world. So why can’t we figure it out?
Man, interesting perspective.
I remember listening to a lecture of the late L. Ron Hubbard (yes, this dude) where he was talking about how pyramids have been build with softening sticks!
This lecture was given in 1952, the name of the lecture series was "Perception of Truth".
Thank you for the video.
I've heard L. Ron Hubbard had a softening stick.
@@gotaxiusa You did? 🤣
Sonic Clamps? I'm pretty skeptical about this claim. Almost had me though.
Softening and molecular manipulation was done thru use of a form of the Hutchison affect. John Hutchison has barely scratched the surface of this phenomenal science.
This is only thing that makes sense. It’s either that, or they literally had hydrolic machines with table saws, etc to cut the rock.
so true
The site was undergoing remodelling work when abandoned. That would have been in the 1400s. Stonecraft of very high quality had been a thing for the best part of 1000 years by then. And yes, no shortage of iron (albeit expensive) iron tools. The oldest iron-mine can be found in S America and dates back 11,000 years.
You can cut rock with a wooden saw, using sand and water. Just slide the wood back and forth, drizzling on the sand, and keep the cut wet. It goes surprisingly quickly. The modern version uses tensioned steel blades, but works just the same. Look at the marble quarries (or granite blocks broken out using wedges, then cut with the saws).
What is the evidence for a “plant-based” softening agent, and the lifting of stones in/out of “tanks”?
Yes. Softening is possible
How can i talk with you?
What are your theories? Let me check your channel,,,
Although not provable per se, this theory is bar far the most logical I've encountered. Appreciate your efforts and creative insight.
More interested in the straight cuts and how they moved them. A reality check my friend.
Check your brean🧠
1 what plant? Percey Fawcett was an Amazon explorer on one of his expeditions he came across swallows building nests in a cliff face. The birds flew up with some plant in their bill and would rub it on the rock. Somehow the plant juice would soften the rock enough for the bird to peck the rock away and by repeating this would end up with a tunnel nest in the cliff face. I've been in a jungle I'm fairly certain I'll never go back, even to look for that plant.
Interesting. The next mystery is how they moved the stones.
Sonic levitation.
Since there are several dropped on the way. I should think someone would lift one and do an excavation under it. To see if there is any sign of a wooden track, bearings, cart, sled or whatever.
I believe the stone was softened by some readily available plant solution that involved the Coco plant. The Inca Histories show that they had a stone cutting solution. The archeological record shows No metal tool or wire saws. THey did not have a measuring system like standard, english, metric or egyptian . they had no written language. Rope was all they had in abundance. We believe that the Inca used a stone softening solution and rope saws to cut and fit the stones. Great video by the way. RICK
Outstanding presentation!! Great pics. Brilliant identification of clues. Definitely evidence of incredible technology no mainstream groups are willing to see. Thanks!
Thank You. I'll give it another 10 years,, and then we're going to see some really cool stuff happening! Great Discoveries and acceptancies!.
Reversing crystallization using cymatics alone might be possible, yet with the addition of ionization of a superconductive level, it would be an easy feat. That means using anti-gravity tech, which is really just a very efficient form of free energy by zero point. Zero point energy is a pump z carrier wave implosively folding carried waves in sync yet out of phase so they combine through the focal (nonlinear) medium. The carrier wave may be just about any shape, but is usually formed as a product of the carried waves through use of high voltage capacitor or a distributor system that shorts out 2 differing charges.
I'm sticking with "The aliens did it" theory.
More believable that his “THEORY”.
This relies on a magical, unknown solution that softens granite?
Good explanation keep on investigating i think you are on the right track ,i like your videos a lot
The stones cut from the quarry were cut straight without softening, so there seems to be no need to 'soften' them for cutting later.
My immediate thought also, it kind of negates the need for the whole process! This hypothesis has way too many holes in it...
Thanks, The problem with learning new methods is the mind set of the present . Today orthodox belief can not accept these ideas and therefore can not chase them up.
By God Sir! I think you have it!
As my old friend and mentor, was wont to say, " when you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.’'