So many of those mysteries are in very active war zones (again). That any of it has survived thus far is amazing, but apparently we're still up to destroying them.
There is no mystery. Those that came before were not quite us, were smarter than us. They were destroyed, we are those that remain. And this history is being erased. We are not meant to know. There are things on this very chat making comments explicitly intended to disguise the evidence of ancient advanced societies.
I can't wait to see the full interview! I post new videos every week of lesser-known Peruvian ancient megalithic sites for those interested in this chapter of our past!
I want to make a wild suggestion. According to ancient Greek descriptions as well as other ancient stories, there was a time before the moon. Without the moon the surface of the Earth would be very unstable due to the rotation of the planet. If the instability was so extreme that standard methods of construction were not viable then it makes sense that this society would attempt to develop a method that would last against the instability. Again, this is just a theory.
A so-called time before the moon might simply refer to years upon years of overcast or dust laiden skies blocking out the moon at night after some large scale catastrophe such as a massive volcanic eruption or an extra terrestrial object striking earth and forcing up dust which may have created nuclear winter type scenario which lasted for years upon years. The point at which the story began would really have been during this time with the moon was not visible. Even the last 2000 years there are multiple multi year events such as this where the sun was not visible or summer did not come in Europe and that sort of thing. We are talking about simpler people in simpler times he did not analyze the way we do now.Occums razor type suggestions
The heaviest foundations survived the 1st global catastrophe. Survivors built on top. The next catastrophe was violent. Then survivors went underground. Epochs have gone by many times.
"The next catastrophe was violent" As opposed to the first catastrophe which was a walk in the park ? "Then survivors went underground" Where they ate... what ? Why did they go underground after the catastrophe ? "Epochs have gone by many times." They probably have although this sentence looks nonsensical
9:33 EXCELLENT .. regardless of the opinions that are arrived at afterwards ACTUAL, physical, TESTING scanning, measuring, weighing, ALL FACT GATHERING ... like this picture displays, ar of PARAMOUNT importance to learn what we can from the artifacts!!! Just seeing this picture makes me happy ....... if only we were allowed to make any and ALL (non-destructive of course) measurements of EVERYTHING !!! For example we should have at hand surface scans of EVERY high precision artifacts from the smallest Vase's to the largest Statues!! and Pillars / Obelisks
The theory isn’t that construction techniques advance with time. It’s much more complex with highs and lows in technological advancements. The Bronze Age collapse is a prime example of a massive loss of technological advancement.
Ben, do you think there is a time gap between Hanan Pacha and Uran pacha?? Perhaps two different versions of technologically advanced peoples in the area? Perhaps the hanan pacha is INSANELY old, and the Uran pacha is also 10,000 years + pre flood age. Crazy to think about a technologically advanced people, coming across even older technologies
So many people thinking there was no ancient civilisation (12,000+ years ago ) that got wiped and we (12,000+ years) found it, used it amazes me, you can see they are all related around the world .
Ben V. does some of the best work in this field. His reporting on the scans of these PRE DYNASTIC igneous stone vases can not be debated. I think we can conclude they are too precise, too hard, too thin in some cases to have been done by hand with the primitive tools the Egyptians had access to. Nobody has ever demonstrated that those results could be replicated without being turned on center. The burden of proof is on those that claim they are the result of primitive tools.
Yes, theoretically, a stonemason could use hydrofluoric acid to shape a giant stone, even without metal tools. Here’s how it could work: Applying the Acid: The stonemason pours hydrofluoric acid onto the stone’s surface. The acid would start to dissolve the stone, making it softer and easier to work with. Shaping the Stone: Once the stone is softened, the stonemason could use tools made from bone, stone, or other materials to shape the stone. These tools could help carve and smooth the stone to fit the desired shape. Repeating the Process: This process could be repeated multiple times to achieve the precise shape needed to fit with other stones. This method could be particularly effective for large stones, like a 20-ton boulder, as it doesn’t require heavy metal tools. However, it’s important to note that hydrofluoric acid is extremely dangerous and requires careful handling and appropriate safety measures.
combining sulfuric acid with fluoride creates hydrofluoric acid. both were known on pretty ancient civilizations. There is NO EVIDENCE that people in the ice age did not have it, and no evidence they did.
Actually we have plenty of examples of technology collapse. For e.g. In Victorian times one of the things Albert did was patronise civil engineering projects to massively improve London sewerage - prior to this some the best sewers below royal residences hadn't been improved on (or even changed) since Roman times 1500 years earlier. Likewise the Americas have quite a few cities that were built to sophisticated standards and then abandoned long before Europeans got involved. More recent tech advances may have been linear, but historically it's been more of a sine wave of progress and collapse and recovery. Personally I suspect this process has been going on for 200,000 or more years and the annoying thing about a piece of rock that's hundreds of millions of year old is that we're not going to be able to say when someone made it into a vase, only when it was put where we found it.
Interested to hear that there was stoneware traffic going up the Nile in ancient times. I was under the impression that most large obelisks etc. were quarried in the South and then transported downstream to places like Giza. Today going up the Nile in a large powered vessel entails passing through several locks, but perhaps the topography was different in the era of the mystical ancient civilisations of Ben et al.
You are missing the critical aspect of the Nile river prior to the building of the Aswan dam in the 1960s. Namely the annual flooding event, known as the akhet (rise/horizon) in ancient Egyptian. It was so regular and dependable that Egypt was regarded as the bread basket of the ancient world for the sheer insane amount of grain they produced from the flood waters continually renewing their fields with minerals washed down stream from the mountains to the south. The floods lasted 4 months out of every year. During these times it would have been far more feasible to transport heavy loads up and down the river, and a now extinct branch of the Nile passed nearby basically every significant pyramid in the country, which tidily explains how they shipped so much fine white Tura limestone to every pyramid for structural and cover blocks.
Interesting the dynastic pictorials of ancient Egyptian construction techniques the only problem with them is, one would have thought if they did build the great pirymid of Giza there should be at least some depiction of this was done as far as I am aware there are none.😮 Regards
Monolith Living Rock builder's,---------to the Polygonal, Cyclopial, Megolithic,---- to the Inca. Brillint observation, & this is observed worldwide (with a precise line of evolution of these & other different cultures) that rebooted these Megablocks.
Question: Can the construction age of a wall without mortar joints be determined by luminescence dating of the contact surfaces of the stones? If the stones were exposed to sunlight after being quarried, would a core sample taken from the adjacent surfaces show the time of last exposure and thus the construction age? ChatGPT Answer: Yes, this is possible. If the stones were sufficiently exposed to sunlight, the luminescence of the contact surfaces could reflect the time of the last exposure before the stones were set. Since the wall is built without mortar joints and is light-tight, the dating would directly indicate the construction age. An increased number of samples can help account for fluctuations and provide a reliable classification, even without high precision for each individual measurement. Has this technique been used in archaeology? The approach of directly examining the contact surfaces of stones in a mortarless wall through luminescence dating is not yet widely established in archaeology. Typically, luminescence dating is applied to mortar to determine the age of the last exposure before setting. Directly dating the contact surfaces of stones would be new and would require advanced sampling and analysis, as only the most recent zeroing event would need to be accurately dated. However, the approach shows potential, especially for structures without mortar. Research in this area could help develop methods to apply this technique to historical structures lacking mortar joints. If the stones have not moved over time due to their heavy weight and stable placement within the wall, it is likely that luminescence measurements of the contact surfaces would provide a reliable indication of the construction age. In this case, potential errors due to movement or external influences would be minimal, and the dating would focus on the time of last exposure before the stones were set.
Same with the boxes in Egypt. Structures were built around them or caves dug to find them, I believe the were thought to be resurrection crèches, not sarcophagi
I think it’s astonishing that RUclipsrs are researching this stuff more than actual archeologists. And finding more breakthroughs in the last couple years than established archeology has in decades. How in the world has nobody ever thought to run scans on those vases until now? It’s quite literally smoking gun proof of advanced tech. You are not making those vases with a stick and some grass and copper.
6:40 So, What do you propose were the ways these items/locations were made? Instead of just saying, it's lost ancient high technology, perhaps explain what you believe were the accurate tooling and processors.
He never gives answers. He's only interested in selling mysteries. That's his business model. The rare time he does give an answer, usually when pushed, he comes out with dumb shit like anti-gravity or "plasmoid technology".
He is saying nobody knows how they did it and that we need to do more research to find out! Watch some more of his videos before you make comments like that.
@@malangope they are constantly insinuating that there was a higher technology then we even have. Pyramids as energy machines, scooping out granite. They ignore every evidence that crushes their "theories". They keep mocking archeology, but they never have discovered or uncovered anything but cherry pick or misrepresent it. And they like to charge you like 6000 dollars to join them on a trip to tell you that they dont have a fing clue? Hancock crying about silencing him while he's been on ms tv for more then thirty years. It's stoner talk and sciece fiction which is cool but they are misleading and present it as something serious, which makes it a shameless exploitation of the guilable. A mystery to be never solved but to be sold.
At 10:31 I noticed how you are setting up the Dial Indicator is absolutely incorrect. The stem on the indicator should never be perpendicular to the Axis of the pivot joint when the indicator is 90 degrees off the direction of rotation of the vase. This creates chatter and can reset your zero and give a false reading and damage the indicator requiring recalibration. Unless slightly oiled with a light mineral oil to lubricate the dial as it contacts abrasive stone. Dials were made for metal not stone. Accuracy to the hundreds of an inch isn’t that precise as compared to today’s requirements should be in the 10,000th of an inch. Still these rock vases are astonishing considering they haven’t found or told us about a lathe with carbide or better; diamond cutting tools. So how did they do it? They had steel lathes and mills with corundum or diamond cutting tools. There’s just no other answer. It weren’t magic. Anything made of metal back in the days when most everything was an abandoned if found by locals or transients, any metal would be busted up and melted down to make weapons. Blades were the money of the day back when. That’s why I think nothing will be found or it has and is being hidden.
Correct, about the measuring setup. ONE Vase, wrongly measured, does not give grounds to derive a conclusion about a TECHNOLOGY. Technology (by definition) produces MANY products. A machine set up once for manufacturing of THAT vase can make MANY same (quality) products, for sale, for the maker to MAKE money. Aha, the Ancients did not care about money, they did not know money, or what? LOL The PROVENANCE of the object of analysis MUST be absolutely assured. Was it, in this (vase's) case? Please visit some Egyptian contemporary souvenir shops for more such vessels...
Given the cataclysms, tsunami level floods, quakes, etc, the chances of finding ancient tools lying around is nil. If they exist at all they are lying under sediment 100+ feet deep
I don't think it has been that long ago at all. We went from horse and buggy to computers in our pockets in a hundred years and we need to stop acting like we can date anything.
"We went from horse and buggy to computers in our pockets in a hundred years" That ignores centuries of scientific development that preceded thr 20th century. More than merely being a famous historical astronomer, Galileo Galilei was the founder of what we would call science. He died the better part of 4 centuries ago. Also people were still using the horse and cart alongside the development of the steam engine and rail transport that built upon it. Steam engines have their own long history of development, with the first known example dating back 2,000 years. The foundations of our mathematics are older still. So ye - the foundations of our wondrous age of science were laid long ago.
The global flood left soft sediment which was employed to construct memorials to the events of the flood The enigmatic features found on Neolithic structure are actual features found on the ark of Noah . It seems that Noah commissioned his sons to build unalterable memorials to he deluge with such enormous size that they could not be destroyed. He knew that the events of the deluge would be rejected by the future mankind.
No those were not shaped by chisel but by trowels. Molten concrete? No need. Concrete began soft can be shaped by trowel. It is unnecessary to wait for it to be hardened just so we can use hammer and chisel.
No one is saying they were stupid. Ben is saying in order to work such hard material as granite and be as precise, you couldn’t have been using bronze tools by hand like the egyptologists want us to believe. We need another explanation.
@@malangope You can saw and drill granite with bronze tools when used in conjuction with an abrasive. You can also carve granite with stone tools like flint. These are the tools they had, in the older periods at least, and they are perfectly capable of working hard stone. The real mystery is why so many followers of these youtubers aren't aware of this or haven't bothered to read up on it.
@@malangope Have you ever studied the granite columns the Romans used in building the Pantheon? “…The grey granite columns that were used in the Pantheon's pronaos were quarried in Egypt at Mons Claudianus in the eastern mountains. Each was 11.9 metres (39 ft) tall, 1.5 metres (4 ft 11 in) in diameter, and 60 tonnes (59 long tons; 66 short tons) in weight. These were dragged more than 100 km (62 miles) from the quarry to the river on wooden sledges. They were floated by barge down the Nile when the water level was high during the spring floods, and then transferred to vessels to cross the Mediterranean Sea to the Roman port of Ostia. There, they were transferred back onto barges and pulled up the Tiber River to Rome…” What technology do you believe the Romans had access to, that the Egyptians didn’t?
I used to watch uncharted X all the time. In recent years I have found the guy is a complete clown especially after seeing examples of these exact holes being created with ancient techniques and tools . He will also leave out information about things. Go watch night scarab for plausible breakdowns that has no bias.
Did they use running water to shape and polish the living stone? It certainly seems like it. Here's an idea: Their technology was primarily hydraulic, for shaping, cutting, drilling, and polishing. Their god was water. Then the deluge came and 'god' was angry at their hubris. End of technology.
Ben should've stuck to sound principles. Like he claims to have. Except he is one fallacious leap on top of another. He looks at particulars and makes general claims based on them. "Any society who would could produce this, most certainly could not have produced this _lesser_ thing here_ It is just so absurd. With the khemetology buddy. He didnt have to take Dunn route. He could have been much more. But he does what earns him the most. No different than someone selling religion. Its that simple. Thank you Dr Miano/ 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his income depends on his not understanding it'
something is not right, with all the skill they had, why not navigate to a flat land, but if you want to pacify a populism you would have to give them a project, now is that logical before the age of logic.
Still waiting for Ben to comment on the scientists against myths youtube channel who have made hard stone vases among other things using stone/flint wood and bone tools, after going through that channels videos i am pretty much 100% convinced all the work done in Egypt was done by Egyptians who had thousands of years of stone working ability that we do not have. They have even demonstrated that you can also carve granite with copper chisels, it just takes a lot longer than with an iron chisel.
Did they match the precision specifications of the original stone vases? Geometry, concentricity, micron level symmetry and smoothness or translucency, etc. No. They did not. I really admire her tenacity and willingness to experiment and the work she made was beautiful - but not precise and that is the key here. It takes 21st century technology to be even able to measure this level of precision and all modern masons agree that they, too, could possibly replicate these objects - but not to such rigorous specifications.
We went from horses to the moon in 65 years and all they did was stonework for thousands of years? Get a modern core drill and try to punch a deep 3" hole in good red granite. Get the biggest machine you can find and move a 1,000 ton stone 400 miles over dirt hills and valleys. Nope.
@@mathewhale3581 what precision? where are scientific measurements of your claims? not a single pyramid is a perfect square, even the "most precise" giza pyramid has each side different by up to 0.5m. Sarcophagi at saqqara are EXTREMELY unprecise, it has been measured and theres not a single 90 angle, just 89.8 91.2 etc. You can check details by Isida project. the precision and stuff has all been debunked long time ago
@@danontherun5685 Thunder Stone in st petersburg is WAY bigger than anything egyptians built (1500 tons) and was moved by labor force, without machines. Ancient romans transported 300t obelisks and built thousands of miles of aqueducts using the most simple tools. You need to educate yourself as youre being extremely short minded, as for the granite - there are experiments (and also ancient egyptian paintings) showing you that they used Copper Tube drills, we find thounsads of them, they are all over the museums, same as chisels, hammers etc. please educate yourself.
Everyone who doesn’t work stone keeps imagining its hard. Its not. Stone Age people ALL learned to work stone to very high levels of sophistication. Look at the obsidian knives of the Aztec or Maya. Look at the refined fluting and edging of Folsom spear points. It is not technically hard to get two stones to match perfectly, it’s just TIME consuming and requires experience. And generally speaking, AS cultures become more economically driven, ( empirical ) they look for means of fabrication and building that are LESS labor or expertise intensive and therefore more profitable. Look at our own recent history, the move from rococo and art nouveau design styling to art deco was NOT a change of artistic tastes, it was a move from high cost artistic labor to simpler, less expensive decor that was more affordable. And from art deco we moved to industrial minimalism, an even cheaper, and more readily mass produced aesthetic. Used to be every home in America had lath and plaster walls. But plastering is a skill that takes longer to acquire, and drywall any doofus with a hammer can install in a shorter time. What you are seeing is not unusual. The interlocking massive stone walls of ancient Peru were the result of experience with earthquakes. And for the culture that built them it did not matter how long it took to make the wall, if you never had to rebuild it because it never fell down. ( the reason many of the foundational features are carved from solid rock is an anti earthquake feature. ) But over a long enough timeline, even the interlocking walls partially tumbled in a severe enough earthquake. Have your very expensive walls crumble at the top just one time, and you are likely to use a less costly method of rebuilding them. Look thru any buildings in the US, and you will see every generation represents a cheaper, faster, more profitable means of building shorter term. This is not because of ‘lost knowledge’ nor even because of a change in culture. It because of a change in priorities and objectives. We went from exquisitely shaped stone arrowheads, to cast ones, to stamped ones, as soon as we figured out a cheaper and faster way to produce them. Today, we still use the exact same tools to shape stone as the ancients. We literally rub them with a harder rock. We simply motorized our rubbing so it will go faster. The ancients were just as smart as us. The made drills by coating round rods of wood or copper with pitch and rolling it in crushed garnet. The made bandsaws by coating linen cord with crushed garnet. They just spun their drills and ran their bandsaws by muscle power. And they fit stones together by taking an impression of one and carving the next stone to match that impression, and then just rubbing the two stones together until they ground one another into a perfect fit.
Ohhhh.. I get it, it's easy.... Just rub the two 50 tonne stones together until they fit... Really??? Not to mention that is impossible up higher on the wall and your trying to match a block on 3 different sides to 3 different blocks with multiple faces
@ first of all, very few stones other than those that are on the ground weigh anywhere near that. Only the gable stone in the great pyramid are anywhere near 50 tons. 90% of the stone in the great pyramid weight less than 3 tons. The stones get smaller as you go up, and you carve the upper stone to fit however the lower stone came out. I was trained to carve stone. I don’t need to rub two 50 ton stones together to plane a surface to match. I can take a lighter weight impression of the lower stone surface using ordinary plaster. That is, I can take a plaster impression-which will create the exact shape of the stone that will fit perfectly on top, carry it back to the quarry, and I just have to carve the next stone to MATCH that impression. ALL that requires is careful measurement, and sneaking up on the correct shape. You folks are just too easily bamboozled by the fact that it SEEMS hard because you don’t know how to do it and it LOOKS impressive. I have moved 7 tons stones in my own yard all by myself using nothing but another smaller rock and a 20 foot 2X12. The Romans quarried and moved and fitted the 415 ton ashlar stone on the Temple Mount without any machinery. It took planning. It required building a road with a gentle downhill grade all the way from the quarry to the building site. But it was considered such a routine task that no one even bothered to mention that it was done nor how. I build and move large sculptures. The weight of the object is relatively immaterial. It just requires PLANNING and patience and will. And a touch of guile. When stone is what you have to work with, you learn how to work with it. You figure out how it behaves and the most effective means of accomplishing what you need to do. Technologically primitive cultures all around the world figured it out using their most rudimentary of technology. I am serious. Today. I sometimes run a computerized CNC to mill stone. Lasers to measure it. But those are just faster ways of precision measurement, and Rubbing a harder rock against the stone. I can measure just as precisely using dividers and a surface gauge, it just takes a lot longer. Stop mystifying the ordinary. More recent cultures did not forget how to do amazing things. They simply no longer NEEDED to do things that way, or found it cheaper to do it differently. Most of what I make these days is made in bronze. Because I can cast more than one. I CAN carve a stone figure. The only reason I don’t is that no one wants to PAY for the labor it takes to do so. It’s FASTER to do so using a carbide air driven chisel. But doing it by hitting it with a rod that has a chunk of hard rock stuck to the end is essentially exactly the same skill.
Hi, i know that you are an agent, here doing your job to cover up our past. So let's ignore your attempts at harming humanity and ask; why do you do it? Are you not one of us or are you a human who just has no ethics? Why betray your own species?
For humans reading this and confused by this Agents hostile words. Note that knapping is reproducable and is not at all sophisticated. It just takes practice. The knapping process is rough and not at all to be confused with products of power tools and precision. Know that you are in a war and Christopher here is waging it and upon YOU.
@ You need to take your meds as prescribed. You imagine there are such things as “agents” trying to conceal some amazing past… for no good reason? Y’know what harms humanity? Pretending we weren’t smart enough to do it ourselves with basic tools. You can look me up. I really am a sculptor. I really was trained to carve stone. And I know exactly how to duplicate everything the ancients did, because the only difference in how THEY did and how I would do it is that they did not have motors. It’s STILL rubbing a rock with a rock as hard or harder. That is all it takes. I am not ’covering up’ our past. I am ILLUMINATING it by explaining to you exactly how YOU can duplicate the exact same results using tools no more sophisticated than they had. We STILL know how to do it. At least, those of us who were trained in an apprenticeship tradition still know. And hop on down to the hardware store and pick up a stone or concrete saw or drill… What you will see is ground up diamond or garnet chips, stuck to a rod, or a cylinder, or a blade with a motor to effect the rubbing action.
You need to do your research with an open mind. For example the advanced tool marks on cores. I watched stonemasons building a Hindu temple in Kawaii. They drilled a hole through a 3' block in a day. 1 big chisel and a sledge hammer. 1 man holds the chisel and the other swings a sledge. Every strike the chisel is turned a slight bit and struck again. It works like a modern rotor hammer but takes much longer and leaves the exact serrations you say were from advanced machines. Learn something about masonry. It's not a lost knowledge. You just want to create a mystery that doesn't exist.
You need to be more specific. Did they drill in granite? What material was the chisel made of? Egyptologists insist they used bronze tools in the old days, which is ridiculous since bronze can barely scratch the surface of those granite blocks.
@@Spectre-wd9dl You don't "drill" with a hammer and chisel. Copper/bronze tubes and abrasives were used to drill granite. This has been replicated countless times in modern experiments. How are you not aware of this? You'll learn nothing from these mystery sellers.
When he presents some irrefutable evidence to support his claims they'll rewrite the textbooks & give him a Nobel prize, until then he's just another crackpot conspiracy theorist.
Most of this was Pre Flood! That is where the erosion form the water came from! Those mega stones were built from people like Nimrod who had the capability to manipulate gravity! That is why they could move such giant stones that weighed tons!!!
Ben, you had so much potential to end up in a I feel ,I think maybe there for I am hole. Dumbing down a culture because you have a “ intellectual I feel”is irresponsible.
Time is cyclical. A societal/cultural shift happened, maybe several times. Each time these shifts happened, we collectively caused our own hell or our own paradise. By honoring what was, the people and societies around the megalithic structures healed their wounds and began again. Their technologies were taken from them because of the intent with which they used them. When we collectively devolve into a negative ether, we lose those technologies that CAN be used in a POSITIVE way to a future time where we can perceive the technologies' positive usefulness. This takes time. Hats off to those that remember to be grateful for the technologies that already exist. When we seek out help from technology with a grateful and loving heart, technologies can literally move mountains.
They put them on barges and transported them up the nile just like they told us and depicted themselves doing. Hardly a mystery. Keep selling those magical mystery tours, bro. The real debate is how they got them on and off the barges, but there are many logical and practical explanations for how they could have done that.
@daisydog388 pretty much everything Ben says. He'll point at modern day reconstruction and repairs then claim some mythical lost high "megalithic" culture did the older bits. What a joke lol
A guilt by association fallacy occurs when someone connects an opponent to a demonized group of people or to a bad person in order to discredit his or her argument. The idea is that the person is “guilty” by simply being similar to or associated with this “bad” group and, therefore, their arguments should be disregarded.
So many of those mysteries are in very active war zones (again). That any of it has survived thus far is amazing, but apparently we're still up to destroying them.
There is no mystery. Those that came before were not quite us, were smarter than us. They were destroyed, we are those that remain. And this history is being erased. We are not meant to know. There are things on this very chat making comments explicitly intended to disguise the evidence of ancient advanced societies.
A conspiracy theorist might say that they are war zones because there are mysteries to destroy.
I can't wait to see the full interview! I post new videos every week of lesser-known Peruvian ancient megalithic sites for those interested in this chapter of our past!
I want to make a wild suggestion. According to ancient Greek descriptions as well as other ancient stories, there was a time before the moon. Without the moon the surface of the Earth would be very unstable due to the rotation of the planet. If the instability was so extreme that standard methods of construction were not viable then it makes sense that this society would attempt to develop a method that would last against the instability. Again, this is just a theory.
The moon has been orbiting earth since before humans made their appearance
@HikarusVibrator Has it it, tho? If that's the case, then why is the material on its surface older than what's underneath? 🤔
...A game theory! Haha, just a little inside joke
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A so-called time before the moon might simply refer to years upon years of overcast or dust laiden skies blocking out the moon at night after some large scale catastrophe such as a massive volcanic eruption or an extra terrestrial object striking earth and forcing up dust which may have created nuclear winter type scenario which lasted for years upon years. The point at which the story began would really have been during this time with the moon was not visible. Even the last 2000 years there are multiple multi year events such as this where the sun was not visible or summer did not come in Europe and that sort of thing. We are talking about simpler people in simpler times he did not analyze the way we do now.Occums razor type suggestions
The heaviest foundations survived the 1st global catastrophe. Survivors built on top. The next catastrophe was violent. Then survivors went underground. Epochs have gone by many times.
"The next catastrophe was violent"
As opposed to the first catastrophe which was a walk in the park ?
"Then survivors went underground"
Where they ate... what ? Why did they go underground after the catastrophe ?
"Epochs have gone by many times."
They probably have although this sentence looks nonsensical
@thomasxxxxxx2345 the Hopi Indians claim to have been brought underground by "ant people" during the last one, fact
Turkey has connecting underground cities capable of housing 80,000 people + all needs , each.@@thomasxxxxxx2345
9:33 EXCELLENT .. regardless of the opinions that are arrived at afterwards ACTUAL, physical, TESTING scanning, measuring, weighing, ALL FACT GATHERING ... like this picture displays, ar of PARAMOUNT importance to learn what we can from the artifacts!!!
Just seeing this picture makes me happy ....... if only we were allowed to make any and ALL (non-destructive of course) measurements of EVERYTHING !!!
For example we should have at hand surface scans of EVERY high precision artifacts from the smallest Vase's to the largest Statues!! and Pillars / Obelisks
The theory isn’t that construction techniques advance with time. It’s much more complex with highs and lows in technological advancements. The Bronze Age collapse is a prime example of a massive loss of technological advancement.
@@David-im3sb exactly 👍
Sterling work as always Ben, and thanks to After School for this post.
Ben, do you think there is a time gap between Hanan Pacha and Uran pacha?? Perhaps two different versions of technologically advanced peoples in the area? Perhaps the hanan pacha is INSANELY old, and the Uran pacha is also 10,000 years + pre flood age. Crazy to think about a technologically advanced people, coming across even older technologies
I just realized this isn’t bens channel, my bad. But I hope you see my comment here ben!
So many people thinking there was no ancient civilisation (12,000+ years ago ) that got wiped and we (12,000+ years) found it, used it amazes me, you can see they are all related around the world .
Ben V. does some of the best work in this field. His reporting on the scans of these PRE DYNASTIC igneous stone vases can not be debated. I think we can conclude they are too precise, too hard, too thin in some cases to have been done by hand with the primitive tools the Egyptians had access to. Nobody has ever demonstrated that those results could be replicated without being turned on center. The burden of proof is on those that claim they are the result of primitive tools.
Two of my favourite people on youtube dropping knowledge!
You're a hoot!!!😂😂
Yes, theoretically, a stonemason could use hydrofluoric acid to shape a giant stone, even without metal tools. Here’s how it could work:
Applying the Acid: The stonemason pours hydrofluoric acid onto the stone’s surface. The acid would start to dissolve the stone, making it softer and easier to work with.
Shaping the Stone: Once the stone is softened, the stonemason could use tools made from bone, stone, or other materials to shape the stone. These tools could help carve and smooth the stone to fit the desired shape.
Repeating the Process: This process could be repeated multiple times to achieve the precise shape needed to fit with other stones.
This method could be particularly effective for large stones, like a 20-ton boulder, as it doesn’t require heavy metal tools. However, it’s important to note that hydrofluoric acid is extremely dangerous and requires careful handling and appropriate safety measures.
combining sulfuric acid with fluoride creates hydrofluoric acid.
both were known on pretty ancient civilizations.
There is NO EVIDENCE that people in the ice age did not have it, and no evidence they did.
Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, oi, oi ,oi.
Great work mate.
Before school, love it ;)
Always enjoy you perspective.
Actually we have plenty of examples of technology collapse. For e.g. In Victorian times one of the things Albert did was patronise civil engineering projects to massively improve London sewerage - prior to this some the best sewers below royal residences hadn't been improved on (or even changed) since Roman times 1500 years earlier. Likewise the Americas have quite a few cities that were built to sophisticated standards and then abandoned long before Europeans got involved.
More recent tech advances may have been linear, but historically it's been more of a sine wave of progress and collapse and recovery. Personally I suspect this process has been going on for 200,000 or more years and the annoying thing about a piece of rock that's hundreds of millions of year old is that we're not going to be able to say when someone made it into a vase, only when it was put where we found it.
Interested to hear that there was stoneware traffic going up the Nile in ancient times. I was under the impression that most large obelisks etc. were quarried in the South and then transported downstream to places like Giza. Today going up the Nile in a large powered vessel entails passing through several locks, but perhaps the topography was different in the era of the mystical ancient civilisations of Ben et al.
You are missing the critical aspect of the Nile river prior to the building of the Aswan dam in the 1960s.
Namely the annual flooding event, known as the akhet (rise/horizon) in ancient Egyptian.
It was so regular and dependable that Egypt was regarded as the bread basket of the ancient world for the sheer insane amount of grain they produced from the flood waters continually renewing their fields with minerals washed down stream from the mountains to the south.
The floods lasted 4 months out of every year.
During these times it would have been far more feasible to transport heavy loads up and down the river, and a now extinct branch of the Nile passed nearby basically every significant pyramid in the country, which tidily explains how they shipped so much fine white Tura limestone to every pyramid for structural and cover blocks.
Interesting the dynastic pictorials of ancient Egyptian construction techniques the only problem with them is, one would have thought if they did build the great pirymid of Giza there should be at least some depiction of this was done as far as I am aware there are none.😮
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Monolith Living Rock builder's,---------to the Polygonal, Cyclopial, Megolithic,---- to the Inca. Brillint observation, & this is observed worldwide (with a precise line of evolution of these & other different cultures) that rebooted these Megablocks.
Question:
Can the construction age of a wall without mortar joints be determined by luminescence dating of the contact surfaces of the stones? If the stones were exposed to sunlight after being quarried, would a core sample taken from the adjacent surfaces show the time of last exposure and thus the construction age?
ChatGPT Answer:
Yes, this is possible. If the stones were sufficiently exposed to sunlight, the luminescence of the contact surfaces could reflect the time of the last exposure before the stones were set. Since the wall is built without mortar joints and is light-tight, the dating would directly indicate the construction age. An increased number of samples can help account for fluctuations and provide a reliable classification, even without high precision for each individual measurement.
Has this technique been used in archaeology?
The approach of directly examining the contact surfaces of stones in a mortarless wall through luminescence dating is not yet widely established in archaeology. Typically, luminescence dating is applied to mortar to determine the age of the last exposure before setting. Directly dating the contact surfaces of stones would be new and would require advanced sampling and analysis, as only the most recent zeroing event would need to be accurately dated.
However, the approach shows potential, especially for structures without mortar. Research in this area could help develop methods to apply this technique to historical structures lacking mortar joints.
If the stones have not moved over time due to their heavy weight and stable placement within the wall, it is likely that luminescence measurements of the contact surfaces would provide a reliable indication of the construction age. In this case, potential errors due to movement or external influences would be minimal, and the dating would focus on the time of last exposure before the stones were set.
Same with the boxes in Egypt. Structures were built around them or caves dug to find them, I believe the were thought to be resurrection crèches, not sarcophagi
I would say Hanan Pacha and Uran Pacha are form roughly the same time, same stone softening techniques
I ran across natron theory the other day. Of course precision objects, would still be an extreme challenge.
My God the Agents are out in force today to cover up the past. Langoliers in action.
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I think it’s astonishing that RUclipsrs are researching this stuff more than actual archeologists. And finding more breakthroughs in the last couple years than established archeology has in decades. How in the world has nobody ever thought to run scans on those vases until now? It’s quite literally smoking gun proof of advanced tech. You are not making those vases with a stick and some grass and copper.
It’s started in America. All with the mound builders when America was known as hue hue Tlapalan.
America is the OG old world.
6:40 So, What do you propose were the ways these items/locations were made? Instead of just saying, it's lost ancient high technology, perhaps explain what you believe were the accurate tooling and processors.
He never gives answers. He's only interested in selling mysteries. That's his business model.
The rare time he does give an answer, usually when pushed, he comes out with dumb shit like anti-gravity or "plasmoid technology".
@@Leeside999 I'll go with Louis ck How did the ancients do it? With an astonishing amount of human sufuring and death!
He is saying nobody knows how they did it and that we need to do more research to find out! Watch some more of his videos before you make comments like that.
@@malangope they are constantly insinuating that there was a higher technology then we even have. Pyramids as energy machines, scooping out granite. They ignore every evidence that crushes their "theories".
They keep mocking archeology, but they never have discovered or uncovered anything but cherry pick or misrepresent it. And they like to charge you like 6000 dollars to join them on a trip to tell you that they dont have a fing clue?
Hancock crying about silencing him while he's been on ms tv for more then thirty years. It's stoner talk and sciece fiction which is cool but they are misleading and present it as something serious, which makes it a shameless exploitation of the guilable. A mystery to be never solved but to be sold.
@@Leeside999 exactly 👍 I don't think that they are so dumb not to consider GEOPOLIMERS... It's obvious..it ruins theirs selling mystery
Thanks for sharing!
Modern buildings used to be made of solid stone. Now styrafoam . 😢
At 10:31 I noticed how you are setting up the Dial Indicator is absolutely incorrect. The stem on the indicator should never be perpendicular to the Axis of the pivot joint when the indicator is 90 degrees off the direction of rotation of the vase. This creates chatter and can reset your zero and give a false reading and damage the indicator requiring recalibration. Unless slightly oiled with a light mineral oil to lubricate the dial as it contacts abrasive stone. Dials were made for metal not stone. Accuracy to the hundreds of an inch isn’t that precise as compared to today’s requirements should be in the 10,000th of an inch. Still these rock vases are astonishing considering they haven’t found or told us about a lathe with carbide or better; diamond cutting tools. So how did they do it? They had steel lathes and mills with corundum or diamond cutting tools. There’s just no other answer. It weren’t magic. Anything made of metal back in the days when most everything was an abandoned if found by locals or transients, any metal would be busted up and melted down to make weapons. Blades were the money of the day back when. That’s why I think nothing will be found or it has and is being hidden.
@@paulglawson2866 why do you think that are not other answers rather than diamond cut or alien laser cut???
@@K22channel Who said anything about aliens. I never said aliens.
Really weird that you threw aliens in there. He's proposing reasonable answers, not fantastical bullshit.
Correct, about the measuring setup.
ONE Vase, wrongly measured, does not give grounds to derive a conclusion about a TECHNOLOGY.
Technology (by definition) produces MANY products. A machine set up once for manufacturing of THAT vase can make MANY same (quality) products, for sale, for the maker to MAKE money.
Aha, the Ancients did not care about money, they did not know money, or what? LOL
The PROVENANCE of the object of analysis MUST be absolutely assured. Was it, in this (vase's) case?
Please visit some Egyptian contemporary souvenir shops for more such vessels...
They knew about how to build cable end houses. When or how long have 🤔 cable end roofs been in existence 🤔
lental is a bean lintel is an architectural element
Given the cataclysms, tsunami level floods, quakes, etc, the chances of finding ancient tools lying around is nil. If they exist at all they are lying under sediment 100+ feet deep
But the Product of Ancients survived. It was “lying around”, unburied itself from beneath 100+ feet. LOL
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I don't think it has been that long ago at all. We went from horse and buggy to computers in our pockets in a hundred years and we need to stop acting like we can date anything.
Just because you don’t understand the science doesn’t mean we can’t date things.
"We went from horse and buggy to computers in our pockets in a hundred years"
That ignores centuries of scientific development that preceded thr 20th century.
More than merely being a famous historical astronomer, Galileo Galilei was the founder of what we would call science.
He died the better part of 4 centuries ago.
Also people were still using the horse and cart alongside the development of the steam engine and rail transport that built upon it.
Steam engines have their own long history of development, with the first known example dating back 2,000 years.
The foundations of our mathematics are older still.
So ye - the foundations of our wondrous age of science were laid long ago.
The global flood left soft sediment which was employed to construct memorials to the events of the flood The enigmatic features found on Neolithic structure are actual features found on the ark of Noah . It seems that Noah commissioned his sons to build unalterable memorials to he deluge with such enormous size that they could not be destroyed. He knew that the events of the deluge would be rejected by the future mankind.
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I thought you were going to collab with roger spurr of mudfossil... thatd be freakin hilarious...
There are 80,000 dolmens worldwide which are memorials to the ark of Noah
Very well said.
Hindu Bhuddist and Shinto temples are Noah’s ark theme parks
No those were not shaped by chisel but by trowels. Molten concrete? No need. Concrete began soft can be shaped by trowel. It is unnecessary to wait for it to be hardened just so we can use hammer and chisel.
This guy is full of shit. Stonecarvers unite.
I don’t believe that the Ancient Egyptians were as stupid as you make them out to be.
No one is saying they were stupid. Ben is saying in order to work such hard material as granite and be as precise, you couldn’t have been using bronze tools by hand like the egyptologists want us to believe. We need another explanation.
@@malangope You can saw and drill granite with bronze tools when used in conjuction with an abrasive.
You can also carve granite with stone tools like flint.
These are the tools they had, in the older periods at least, and they are perfectly capable of working hard stone.
The real mystery is why so many followers of these youtubers aren't aware of this or haven't bothered to read up on it.
@@Leeside999don't know anything do you
@@duaneelliott5194 How do you mean, bro?
@@malangope Have you ever studied the granite columns the Romans used in building the Pantheon?
“…The grey granite columns that were used in the Pantheon's pronaos were quarried in Egypt at Mons Claudianus in the eastern mountains. Each was 11.9 metres (39 ft) tall, 1.5 metres (4 ft 11 in) in diameter, and 60 tonnes (59 long tons; 66 short tons) in weight. These were dragged more than 100 km (62 miles) from the quarry to the river on wooden sledges. They were floated by barge down the Nile when the water level was high during the spring floods, and then transferred to vessels to cross the Mediterranean Sea to the Roman port of Ostia. There, they were transferred back onto barges and pulled up the Tiber River to Rome…”
What technology do you believe the Romans had access to, that the Egyptians didn’t?
No powerful tools needed with acid.
IGNOREANUS? thats pretty funny.
Mister Bean?
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I used to watch uncharted X all the time. In recent years I have found the guy is a complete clown especially after seeing examples of these exact holes being created with ancient techniques and tools . He will also leave out information about things. Go watch night scarab for plausible breakdowns that has no bias.
Always nice to hear when someone who used to believe now realises he's a total spoofer.
Meaning social media nonsense not actual scholarship.
Did they use running water to shape and polish the living stone? It certainly seems like it. Here's an idea: Their technology was primarily hydraulic, for shaping, cutting, drilling, and polishing. Their god was water. Then the deluge came and 'god' was angry at their hubris. End of technology.
U got a Shane Gillis with a sick beard look going. W
your supposed to get turned on by a bush on a beaver, player.
Ben should've stuck to sound principles. Like he claims to have. Except he is one fallacious leap on top of another. He looks at particulars and makes general claims based on them. "Any society who would could produce this, most certainly could not have produced this _lesser_ thing here_ It is just so absurd. With the khemetology buddy. He didnt have to take Dunn route. He could have been much more. But he does what earns him the most. No different than someone selling religion. Its that simple. Thank you Dr Miano/ 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his income depends on his not understanding it'
something is not right, with all the skill they had, why not navigate to a flat land, but if you want to pacify a populism you would have to give them a project, now is that logical before the age of logic.
Still waiting for Ben to comment on the scientists against myths youtube channel who have made hard stone vases among other things using stone/flint wood and bone tools, after going through that channels videos i am pretty much 100% convinced all the work done in Egypt was done by Egyptians who had thousands of years of stone working ability that we do not have. They have even demonstrated that you can also carve granite with copper chisels, it just takes a lot longer than with an iron chisel.
Did they match the precision specifications of the original stone vases? Geometry, concentricity, micron level symmetry and smoothness or translucency, etc.
No. They did not. I really admire her tenacity and willingness to experiment and the work she made was beautiful - but not precise and that is the key here.
It takes 21st century technology to be even able to measure this level of precision and all modern masons agree that they, too, could possibly replicate these objects - but not to such rigorous specifications.
We went from horses to the moon in 65 years and all they did was stonework for thousands of years? Get a modern core drill and try to punch a deep 3" hole in good red granite. Get the biggest machine you can find and move a 1,000 ton stone 400 miles over dirt hills and valleys. Nope.
@@mathewhale3581 what precision? where are scientific measurements of your claims? not a single pyramid is a perfect square, even the "most precise" giza pyramid has each side different by up to 0.5m. Sarcophagi at saqqara are EXTREMELY unprecise, it has been measured and theres not a single 90 angle, just 89.8 91.2 etc. You can check details by Isida project. the precision and stuff has all been debunked long time ago
@@danontherun5685 Thunder Stone in st petersburg is WAY bigger than anything egyptians built (1500 tons) and was moved by labor force, without machines.
Ancient romans transported 300t obelisks and built thousands of miles of aqueducts using the most simple tools. You need to educate yourself as youre being extremely short minded, as for the granite - there are experiments (and also ancient egyptian paintings) showing you that they used Copper Tube drills, we find thounsads of them, they are all over the museums, same as chisels, hammers etc. please educate yourself.
@@mathewhale3581 "match the precision" - what precision? have you seen Isida project measurements? they are all but precise hahahahah
more like no school
Everyone who doesn’t work stone keeps imagining its hard. Its not. Stone Age people ALL learned to work stone to very high levels of sophistication. Look at the obsidian knives of the Aztec or Maya. Look at the refined fluting and edging of Folsom spear points. It is not technically hard to get two stones to match perfectly, it’s just TIME consuming and requires experience. And generally speaking, AS cultures become more economically driven, ( empirical ) they look for means of fabrication and building that are LESS labor or expertise intensive and therefore more profitable.
Look at our own recent history, the move from rococo and art nouveau design styling to art deco was NOT a change of artistic tastes, it was a move from high cost artistic labor to simpler, less expensive decor that was more affordable. And from art deco we moved to industrial minimalism, an even cheaper, and more readily mass produced aesthetic.
Used to be every home in America had lath and plaster walls. But plastering is a skill that takes longer to acquire, and drywall any doofus with a hammer can install in a shorter time.
What you are seeing is not unusual. The interlocking massive stone walls of ancient Peru were the result of experience with earthquakes. And for the culture that built them it did not matter how long it took to make the wall, if you never had to rebuild it because it never fell down. ( the reason many of the foundational features are carved from solid rock is an anti earthquake feature. ) But over a long enough timeline, even the interlocking walls partially tumbled in a severe enough earthquake. Have your very expensive walls crumble at the top just one time, and you are likely to use a less costly method of rebuilding them.
Look thru any buildings in the US, and you will see every generation represents a cheaper, faster, more profitable means of building shorter term. This is not because of ‘lost knowledge’ nor even because of a change in culture. It because of a change in priorities and objectives. We went from exquisitely shaped stone arrowheads, to cast ones, to stamped ones, as soon as we figured out a cheaper and faster way to produce them.
Today, we still use the exact same tools to shape stone as the ancients. We literally rub them with a harder rock. We simply motorized our rubbing so it will go faster. The ancients were just as smart as us. The made drills by coating round rods of wood or copper with pitch and rolling it in crushed garnet. The made bandsaws by coating linen cord with crushed garnet. They just spun their drills and ran their bandsaws by muscle power.
And they fit stones together by taking an impression of one and carving the next stone to match that impression, and then just rubbing the two stones together until they ground one another into a perfect fit.
Ohhhh.. I get it, it's easy.... Just rub the two 50 tonne stones together until they fit... Really??? Not to mention that is impossible up higher on the wall and your trying to match a block on 3 different sides to 3 different blocks with multiple faces
@ first of all, very few stones other than those that are on the ground weigh anywhere near that. Only the gable stone in the great pyramid are anywhere near 50 tons. 90% of the stone in the great pyramid weight less than 3 tons. The stones get smaller as you go up, and you carve the upper stone to fit however the lower stone came out.
I was trained to carve stone. I don’t need to rub two 50 ton stones together to plane a surface to match. I can take a lighter weight impression of the lower stone surface using ordinary plaster. That is, I can take a plaster impression-which will create the exact shape of the stone that will fit perfectly on top, carry it back to the quarry, and I just have to carve the next stone to MATCH that impression. ALL that requires is careful measurement, and sneaking up on the correct shape.
You folks are just too easily bamboozled by the fact that it SEEMS hard because you don’t know how to do it and it LOOKS impressive. I have moved 7 tons stones in my own yard all by myself using nothing but another smaller rock and a 20 foot 2X12.
The Romans quarried and moved and fitted the 415 ton ashlar stone on the Temple Mount without any machinery. It took planning. It required building a road with a gentle downhill grade all the way from the quarry to the building site. But it was considered such a routine task that no one even bothered to mention that it was done nor how.
I build and move large sculptures. The weight of the object is relatively immaterial. It just requires PLANNING and patience and will. And a touch of guile.
When stone is what you have to work with, you learn how to work with it. You figure out how it behaves and the most effective means of accomplishing what you need to do.
Technologically primitive cultures all around the world figured it out using their most rudimentary of technology. I am serious. Today. I sometimes run a computerized CNC to mill stone. Lasers to measure it. But those are just faster ways of precision measurement, and Rubbing a harder rock against the stone. I can measure just as precisely using dividers and a surface gauge, it just takes a lot longer.
Stop mystifying the ordinary.
More recent cultures did not forget how to do amazing things. They simply no longer NEEDED to do things that way, or found it cheaper to do it differently.
Most of what I make these days is made in bronze. Because I can cast more than one. I CAN carve a stone figure. The only reason I don’t is that no one wants to PAY for the labor it takes to do so. It’s FASTER to do so using a carbide air driven chisel. But doing it by hitting it with a rod that has a chunk of hard rock stuck to the end is essentially exactly the same skill.
Hi, i know that you are an agent, here doing your job to cover up our past. So let's ignore your attempts at harming humanity and ask; why do you do it? Are you not one of us or are you a human who just has no ethics? Why betray your own species?
For humans reading this and confused by this Agents hostile words. Note that knapping is reproducable and is not at all sophisticated. It just takes practice. The knapping process is rough and not at all to be confused with products of power tools and precision.
Know that you are in a war and Christopher here is waging it and upon YOU.
@ You need to take your meds as prescribed. You imagine there are such things as “agents” trying to conceal some amazing past… for no good reason? Y’know what harms humanity? Pretending we weren’t smart enough to do it ourselves with basic tools. You can look me up. I really am a sculptor. I really was trained to carve stone. And I know exactly how to duplicate everything the ancients did, because the only difference in how THEY did and how I would do it is that they did not have motors. It’s STILL rubbing a rock with a rock as hard or harder. That is all it takes.
I am not ’covering up’ our past. I am ILLUMINATING it by explaining to you exactly how YOU can duplicate the exact same results using tools no more sophisticated than they had. We STILL know how to do it. At least, those of us who were trained in an apprenticeship tradition still know. And hop on down to the hardware store and pick up a stone or concrete saw or drill… What you will see is ground up diamond or garnet chips, stuck to a rod, or a cylinder, or a blade with a motor to effect the rubbing action.
You need to do your research with an open mind. For example the advanced tool marks on cores. I watched stonemasons building a Hindu temple in Kawaii. They drilled a hole through a 3' block in a day. 1 big chisel and a sledge hammer. 1 man holds the chisel and the other swings a sledge. Every strike the chisel is turned a slight bit and struck again. It works like a modern rotor hammer but takes much longer and leaves the exact serrations you say were from advanced machines. Learn something about masonry. It's not a lost knowledge. You just want to create a mystery that doesn't exist.
You need to be more specific. Did they drill in granite? What material was the chisel made of? Egyptologists insist they used bronze tools in the old days, which is ridiculous since bronze can barely scratch the surface of those granite blocks.
@@malangope It's crazy that you don't know about abrasives. It's the abrasive that does the cutting not the bronze.
@@Leeside999 when you use a sawing motion. Abrasives won't do jack when your drilling with a hammer and chisel.
@@Spectre-wd9dl You don't "drill" with a hammer and chisel. Copper/bronze tubes and abrasives were used to drill granite. This has been replicated countless times in modern experiments. How are you not aware of this? You'll learn nothing from these mystery sellers.
Steel 😂
Ben's really grasping at straws nowadays .
What do you mean? Give an example at least.
When he presents some irrefutable evidence to support his claims they'll rewrite the textbooks & give him a Nobel prize, until then he's just another crackpot conspiracy theorist.
Based on your hundreds of trips across the World
@richardhickman1920 based on the expert opinions across various academic fields & not some crackpot conspiracy theorists.
Most of this was Pre Flood! That is where the erosion form the water came from! Those mega stones were built from people like Nimrod who had the capability to manipulate gravity! That is why they could move such giant stones that weighed tons!!!
Ben, you had so much potential to end up in a I feel ,I think maybe there for I am hole. Dumbing down a culture because you have a “ intellectual I feel”is irresponsible.
Our ancients knew this planet and its elements in ways we can no longer understand. How to melt stone and use mercury without side effects
Reason why you guys get confused about the precise carving in stone is that it was never stone to begin with .
Time is cyclical. A societal/cultural shift happened, maybe several times. Each time these shifts happened, we collectively caused our own hell or our own paradise.
By honoring what was, the people and societies around the megalithic structures healed their wounds and began again.
Their technologies were taken from them because of the intent with which they used them.
When we collectively devolve into a negative ether, we lose those technologies that CAN be used in a POSITIVE way to a future time where we can perceive the technologies' positive usefulness. This takes time.
Hats off to those that remember to be grateful for the technologies that already exist. When we seek out help from technology with a grateful and loving heart, technologies can literally move mountains.
1. Not carved. Poured. Geopolymer.
2. Not a planet. Earth is MEASURED flat.
Is this channel pursuing truth?
Paul Cook. Look him up.
I'm pretty sure Paul Cook is an idiot.
Id paul still doing only fans?
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Some might be geopolymer, like those sites of sandstone, such as in Malta. But granite is another ballgame. First show how to "geopolymer" granite.
That moment when LATH merges with Flerfs... it was only a matter of time.
They put them on barges and transported them up the nile just like they told us and depicted themselves doing. Hardly a mystery. Keep selling those magical mystery tours, bro.
The real debate is how they got them on and off the barges, but there are many logical and practical explanations for how they could have done that.
Before school indeed. Ignoranus.
Ignore your ass?
Complete nonsense lol.
What is nonsense? 🤪
Takes a complete idiot to think that 😂
@daisydog388 pretty much everything Ben says. He'll point at modern day reconstruction and repairs then claim some mythical lost high "megalithic" culture did the older bits. What a joke lol
@_MikeJon_ ok 🤪
@@_MikeJon_ wow, sounds like you been drinking the authoritarian kool-aid, 😆 🤣
Atlantis Bros never learn. ha ha lol
There are no anomalies.
UnchartedX ...so disappointed...just a follower of Brien Foester and all that entertainment people from "ancient alien" Hollywood series
A guilt by association fallacy occurs when someone connects an opponent to a demonized group of people or to a bad person in order to discredit his or her argument. The idea is that the person is “guilty” by simply being similar to or associated with this “bad” group and, therefore, their arguments should be disregarded.
@blipys well done 🙏 Mr Wikipedia
@K22channel your ignorance is impressive
@@K22channel yep. thats all the time your ignorant comment is worth. more or less a minute
@@blipys I checked your channel... Empty like you I guess.
The avatar is perfect though 👍
"it's accurate to a few widths of a human hair, also, it's perfect symmetry"
LOL.
Make up your mind. Is it perfect or off?
Who else does'nt believe in radar..
Who?