Thanks! The underlying keyboard I use here is fully weighted, so it should be about the same on an acoustic piano, though I haven't used it on one yet. It works a little better overall on springy midi controllers since on weighted keyboards the black keys don't spring back up as quickly as one might like. I'm working on reducing the weight of the keys as much as possible for the next version, and that's one of the reasons I've been so slow in finishing it. Any other questions please feel free to ask!
Dude, this is so bad ass! Are you controlling your voice? The tone (subtle) colors, inflections are so good, it's easy to think, "...well sir he seems off key..." or something similar, but more difficult to realize exactly what's going on.
Montcalf It depends! If you're willing to use a 12 note subset if 19, this will have consistent fingerings for those 12 notes (but you'll have to ignore the enharmonic equivalents). You could also just map the underlying keys to 19, and then deal with the fact that octaves will be very wide, and will move slightly down the keyboard (since this overlay keeps notes separated by 12 notes the same height, not 19.) 24 could work if you just keep in mind that two octaves on the overlay are actually one octave in 24, and then get used to the wider fingerings for everything.
John Moriarty Thank you for the reply! I just want to say, I really love your idea of using 3d printed keys on top of traditional keyboard. What would be the best way of playing in 24 Edo in your opinion? I just love the sound of Wyschengradsky's piano works. I know that it's not a particularly popular tuning among xenharmonic community. Right now I am about taking inspiration from your idea and work out an isomorphic piano layout that would make 24 Edo playable by combining two standard keyboards (maybe using midi controllers with smaller keys).
Montcalf Thanks for the kind words! It would depend how you plan on treating 24-edo, and what scales you think you'll be likely to use. (2d keyboards sort of force you to pick a point of view, unless you think of it like a Janko keyboard where it's 2D but you really think if it as 1D, just with multiple "rows", but that then requires making decisions as you play as to which certain if each note you'll be pressing). Do you already have a way you think about 24? Do you think if it as 12-edo with quarter steps? Do you think if it as a superset for maqam? Do you use any scales in particular?
Montcalf And I don't have much experience with 3D modeling, no. I did these designs in openSCAD, which is a script based 3d modeling software that was perfect for these designs, since they are based on some pretty simple geometries based on measurements.
I would love to print this for myself, looking forward to release of the files!
Great performance! How well do these work on acoustic pianos? What about other acoustic keyboard instruments (celeste, organ, electric piano, etc)
Thanks! The underlying keyboard I use here is fully weighted, so it should be about the same on an acoustic piano, though I haven't used it on one yet. It works a little better overall on springy midi controllers since on weighted keyboards the black keys don't spring back up as quickly as one might like. I'm working on reducing the weight of the keys as much as possible for the next version, and that's one of the reasons I've been so slow in finishing it. Any other questions please feel free to ask!
Looks great!
Dude, this is so bad ass! Are you controlling your voice? The tone (subtle) colors, inflections are so good, it's easy to think, "...well sir he seems off key..." or something similar, but more difficult to realize exactly what's going on.
Thanks for watching! Hard to say for sure what you're hearing. Maybe I am just off key ;-)
I am mostly interested in 19-edo and 24-edo, would this keyboard design be good for those?
Montcalf It depends! If you're willing to use a 12 note subset if 19, this will have consistent fingerings for those 12 notes (but you'll have to ignore the enharmonic equivalents). You could also just map the underlying keys to 19, and then deal with the fact that octaves will be very wide, and will move slightly down the keyboard (since this overlay keeps notes separated by 12 notes the same height, not 19.)
24 could work if you just keep in mind that two octaves on the overlay are actually one octave in 24, and then get used to the wider fingerings for everything.
John Moriarty Thank you for the reply! I just want to say, I really love your idea of using 3d printed keys on top of traditional keyboard. What would be the best way of playing in 24 Edo in your opinion? I just love the sound of Wyschengradsky's piano works. I know that it's not a particularly popular tuning among xenharmonic community. Right now I am about taking inspiration from your idea and work out an isomorphic piano layout that would make 24 Edo playable by combining two standard keyboards (maybe using midi controllers with smaller keys).
John Moriarty How long did it take you to design this layout? Do you have a lot of experience working with 3d modeling software?
Montcalf Thanks for the kind words! It would depend how you plan on treating 24-edo, and what scales you think you'll be likely to use. (2d keyboards sort of force you to pick a point of view, unless you think of it like a Janko keyboard where it's 2D but you really think if it as 1D, just with multiple "rows", but that then requires making decisions as you play as to which certain if each note you'll be pressing).
Do you already have a way you think about 24? Do you think if it as 12-edo with quarter steps? Do you think if it as a superset for maqam? Do you use any scales in particular?
Montcalf And I don't have much experience with 3D modeling, no. I did these designs in openSCAD, which is a script based 3d modeling software that was perfect for these designs, since they are based on some pretty simple geometries based on measurements.
Cool concept, but why arent the unisons the same colour?
I like the playing, but your singing... not so much!
>but why arent the unisons the same colour?
Because they aren't unisons, they're diminished seconds ;-)