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Festool Kapex KS 60 Mitre Saw - Overview (1 of 2)
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2017
- Festool UK have very kindly lent me a Kapex KS 60 mitre saw so that I can show it to you in a video. I have made two videos, this one examines the saw and preparing it for use. The second video will show it in action and check out the accuracy.
Please do not ask me to check any measurements or complicated detail as the saw will have been returned by the time that you see this video.
The bottom line - it is excellent.
Great video Peter, about a Beautiful mitre saw, what a machine.
Thank you for all your work and all the best, Henrie.
Hi Henrie, It is a lovely saw. The second part will be ready very soon, hopefully the day after tomorrow. In that I put the saw through its paces and show people how road signs can be made ! ! I am also working on a video about the CTM26 Extractor - not so easy making that an interesting video. It is a great extractor, does its job exceptionally well and that is about it. Take care. Peter
Hi Peter saw delivery was successful! Thank for reply. FYI clear bag that came with saw that had the feet in it to make it sys one compatible, included a longer screw and spring to replace the short one. So it can have the extra support required at the front.
Such a great in depth review Peter and this video has cemented my decision to buy the KS60 in the next few days.
Also interesting to hear you comment on the brushes as I recently went over to the new Festool TS55 track saw and was a little surprised at the motor smell and sparks etc when I first used it, wasn’t particularly worried but good to hear your explanation! 😅
Peter, thanks for your detailed review of the Festool products, you reminded me to register my new products I just purchased!
Excellent. Peter
Great video Petar! We love the Kapex 120 on the UG cart and wings. Can't wait to this model here in Canada soon!
Hi Terry, Many thanks. Peter
I've got the saw but haven't used it yet :) looking forward for the second part:) thx for the video.
About 2 1/2 days from now for the next video. Peter
Thank you Peter, as always very comprehensive. This is a serious contender for my small workshop so I'm interested in how it performs and of course the dust extraction. Even as an amateur I'm becoming much more aware of 'dust' in the workshop and have re-visited quite a few of your videos and effective dust extraction seems to be a major advantage with this brand placing it head and shoulders above the rest. My old Jet mitre saw needs replacing so I await your next video to see it in action and any comparisons you make with its bigger stable mate (the Kapex is way out of my league). Thanks gain
Regards
Mike
Hi Mike, The dust collection is excellent. It is an accurate and well thought out machine. Do watch my video before making a choice. I already have the larger KS 120 and I would not swap but it would be a hard choice if I were starting from scratch. Once you have seen Part 2 (that should be no later than Sunday evening) do try and get a demo at your local dealership. Peter
Hi peter , thanks for another good video
I have the 120 , and now KS60 GREAT BIT OF KIT 👍
Hi Mark, Cheers. Peter
Exceptionally well explained - thank you so very much
Glad it was helpful!
Legend vids as usual. Thanks to these vids helping me decide what I want to do, I've now landed myself an apprenticeship with a good furniture company. :)
That is brilliant. If you need any help or advice from me then just send me a private message, any time. Peter
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Hi peter i went down the street and was talking to the man in total tools ,they sell festool tools not a super big range.Not like carba tec in sydney australia but okay.I was asking salesman about the set extra,s that should come with the KS 60.The elavation kit plus the angle finder and the long front support feet for the front of the saw.I was telling the salesman about you in the uk and david stanton man said he will look you up on utube. I told them you are great to watch.See i brought the KS 60 because the shop is not far from my house.I have brought a lot of festool tools outside albury where i live sometimes.
Hi Shane, You are getting some great kit and many thanks for mentioning me to that chap. Peter
Looking forward to seeing your next video
Not long to go - a bit more editing. Peter
Very good overview. cheers
Hi Nathan, Thank you. Peter
Your channel needs to be called the "New Black and green workshop" ! Thank you for another great video peter!
Hi Matthew, I started buying Festool kit 5 years ago and have not been disappointed yet. Many thanks. Peter
Hi Peter, great video, extremely informative and well presented. I am now a channel subscriber. My only tiny bugbear is your pronunciation of the word détente; it is French as I am sure you are aware and is pronounced as “day tont”. The acute accent over the first e gives this pronunciation.
Merci - I failed all the French exams at school ! Cheers. Peter
Nice review!
Danke. Cheers. Peter
Hi peter i just brought today a brand new festool kapex KS 60 mitre saw.I thought about it and i like its size.I do have a bosch top of range mitre saw i will keep it for different jobs.
Hi Shane, The KS60 is a brilliant machine - well done. Peter
Awesome Peter ! I've seen on the festool's website that there are two versions of the ks60, one is 240volts and the other works at 110 voltas, which is the one you used for this video?
Hi Hector, The one I borrowed was 220 volts. An excellent machine. Peter
Hi Peter
Another great video thanks. As a result of watching your series of videos (and I have now retired so have some free time) I decided to try my hand at some woodwork and have invested a fair bit in some Festool kit. (Never been any good at woodwork so thought it about time I tried again).
I have just purchased the Ks 60 and would like to ask your views using it and other power tools left handed. When using a portable circular saw for example I find it very awkward with the blade on the right. ( I believe you can get left handed versions in the USA but not in the U.K.)
Probably a bit of a strange question but wondered if you have ever heard of any safety issues using power tools left handed? I guess the Ks60 is ok standing either side of the blade.
Please keep the films coming.
Brian
Hi Brian, My brother is left handed and he has not problems that I am aware of. The KS 60 is symmetrical as far as sawing goes. I often use my TS55 left handed as it is sometimes easier depending where the wood is that am cutting. Obviously drills and tools like the Domino are just as easy. So, I would suggest that you do not worry about it. Many thanks for the kind words and enjoy that lovely KS 60. Cheers. Peter
Hi, I bought the KS120 as a replacement for my shop mitre saw, (your vids helped me on that purchase, Thanks ) Loving it, beautiful machine, I was thinking that i would be able to transport it to site if needed but it is a bit too bulky ( & far too nice for site work ) so I'm happy to keep going with the Makita for that. Getting to my point - I was going to buy this machine KS60 but the 45º only cuts up to 40mm, therefore i wouldn't be able to mitre a piece of 3x2, old imperial or the smaller modern metric sized wood. is that correct? ( because I'm still tempted to buy another Kapex for site work, might have to get the KS88E which does 55mm @ 45º but costs £775, nearly as much as the 120 & as big.
Hi Gid, A 45 Degree mitre cut can be up to 215 mm wide and 60 mm deep and so will easily manage your 4x2. If you were cutting a 45 degree x 45 degree compound then the cut would be 215 mm x 40 mm. Peter
Thanks that's good to know, thought it was odd that it wouldn't be able to cut a standard 2" timber. I wasn't sure when i read the specs on this machine, I could've saved a few pounds but still not regretting buying the 120. Might just have to buy another ;)
Be good to see a twin 18v brushless version of this like Festool did with the Tsc55
Hi Alan, I agree as it would help the chaps working on site. Many thanks. Peter
my dream mitre saw :).
I really think Festool are one of the best, if not the best, but dammit, they are so expensive... One more "professional video, my friend. I hope more and more people are going to subscribe ....
I think it is about 700 new subscribers a month at the moment. Cheers. Peter
Hi Peter ordered the KS60 for our site needs so the 120 can stay in the workshop. Thought I'd watch your video to get "fam-ed" up on it prior to arrival. Bought the set version, like the led when I seen it on demo at our shop from Craig. Just had a thought. If you put the feet on it to Sys 1 height. Does that not make the black adjustable knob at the front (first mentioned very earlier on in your video) redundant as I'm assuming it won't touch the table? Due to the extra height gain. Great video. Thank you
Hi James, I no longer have access to a KS60 but think that you may be right. When you get your machine (you lucky chap) have a closer look. The KS60 is the perfect site saw. Peter
Is it possible to rotate dust port to left or right so that the saw could stay close to wall with hose attached? If not out of the box, is there some special accessory for that?
Yes, it will rotate. I cannot remember if you have to loosen a screw in order to allow it to move but it is something that the user can do very easily. There is no need for any special kit at all. It is a long time since I made the video but remember this part quite well. Peter
Hi Peter have you used a mafell guide rail saw.?they are very nicely made.
Hi Shane, No but I understand that they are at the same quality level as Festool. Cheers. Peter
Well, that is really weird. Up until now I thought that every button/switch/knob etc was green. This is a great system so that even if unfamiliar you have a clue what to look for. The big knob at the back and the front is blue??? And the 2 to adjust the sides.
I very nearly said something about the colour of the knobs but it is the same on other tools. I think that the green idea is for those things that are for the user to adjust or set for a change in function rather than an adjustment for comfort. Anyway, there must be a very clever person in Festool who decides. Peter
hi peter, when the machine has enough clearance at the back wall to swing, what distance is it to the front lock knob from the wall? thanks
Hi Kevin, Sorry but the machine went back straight after the video was made. However, I did a Google search and found a drawing:
www.pinterest.com/pin/354869645620060203/
Peter
So is it worth spending the extra money on the 120, or save a few quid and go for the 60?
Hi Nicholas, This really does depend on what type of work you do and your budget. The KS60 is absolutely the machine for the rad warrior, will suit the lower budget static person but will not quite match the KS120 for overall performance. I really like the +60 -60 degree mitre capability of the KS60 but would find it hard to be stuck with a maximum 60 mm depth of cut. Peter
Hi peter thankyou for the reply.I was asking the salesman about a festool stand ,its price is around $567 dollars iam thinking of buying one. I thought of buying the big kapex mitre saw i mite buy one ,stick with what i have at the moment.The price for the KS 60 was i paid was $1399 today. Peter those extra,s didn,t come with the machine i mite ask them.?
Hi Shane, Yes do check what they supply as standard but most items are extras. Peter
I peter i saw on utube a mitre saw hood it’s a umbrella shape’when you are useing the mitresaw all the dust goes inside the hood instead of falling on the ground stops dust blowing on walls of your workshop.. peter I have just brought one. Made by fastcap. Peter have you seen this product.?
Hi Shane, No, I have not seen it but I am happy with my Kapex dust collection - it works really well. Cheers. Peter
Hi could anyone answer my question I’m a carpenter joiner so I cover anything with wood but spend most of my time on site roofing and doors skirting etc so would a ks60 be able to cut a 50x200 at say 45x45 degrees for a hip roof or valley is the blade deep enough for this kind of job yes I know the is 120 would be better but i get caught out in rain snow sun so I couldn’t leave myself to leave a 120 outside
Hi Mark, You can cut a 45 x 45 deg hip at up to 215 x 40 mm. A straight 90 x 45 deg cut is 215 x 60 mm and a normal 90 x 90 deg cut is 305 x 60 mm. So not quite there for your hip joint. Peter
Ok thank you Peter I use a Dewalt 706 but after 15 years it’s not got much life in it so I shall continue the search many thanks love your channel
And what would you have if festool wasn’t an option for a all rounder
Hi Mark, I am not an expert on any of the other saws as I have never owned or used them. However, I know a lot of chaps working on site like the Dewalt range. For workshop based people the other make and model to look for is the Bosch Glide. I see that the Bosch GCM 350-254 Slide Mitre Saw does a compound 45 x 45 deg at 226 x 50 mm and is not too expensive. Peter
How can you adjust the angles on the saw. Can't find anything on it on the internet.
It is shown in the second part of the video unless you mean adjusting the saw if it is out of square. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop yes, I mean if it is out of square.
I only had that saw on loan for a week or so and so cannot look at it for you. I have tried to find instructions on its adjustment on the internet with no luck. Sorry. Peter
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I am wondering why you bought this KS60 when you have already got the KS120? What happened to KS120? Regards Andrew
Hi Andrew, The KS60 was on loan so that I could make the video - it went back 2 weeks after the video was made. I still have the KS120 and love it but the KS60 would be equally as good provided the depth and width of cut range suited the user. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Thank you. After I watched your video. I bought KS120 instead and got it this morning. It’s beautiful tool. Funny thing is that I am watching your video now about Domino DF500 because I have got this tool too. I enjoyed watching your videos. Very enjoyable. The informations are very useful. 👍🏼
Hi Peter, surely I can't be the first person to point out the typo in this video's title? "Fetool" s/b "Festool"!
Hi Nick, Congratulations - you win today's prize.... Thank you so much. I did not notice and nor did anyone else - unless they were too polite to say anything. It is now corrected and, once again, many thanks. Peter
Is it not a brushless motor
Did I say it was brushless? I do not think it is but it does have digital load sensitive controls (MMC electronics). Peter
why is this saw not on their website. Google everything and nothing.
It is on their web site. I just did a test Google and have pages of references to it. Try this direct link: www.festool.com/Products/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?pid=561683&name=Sliding-compound-mitre-saw-KAPEX-KS-60-E Peter
Fest Tool USA says the KS60 is just a rumor for now in the USA. Could be months even if it will be sold here. No UL certification submitted either. And not listed for sale or on any US site. KS120 is the only miter saw for sale.
Hi Alan, need your help, I am just about to upgrade my old mitre saw in my workshop, I have endeavoured to read as many reviews as I can and so I have narrowed my choice down to two mitre saws, the Kapex 60 and the Bosch 12inch, the one with the clever axle glide allowing for better shop space use, can you help? I would very much value your advice here in as much what your opinion would be with both saws and your views, thank you for taking the time to help me, keep up the great work, ps I have a number of Festool tools but according to the reviews they suggest that the Kapex 60 is very underpowered and that worries me, thank you again regards Louie from northern Ireland
Not sure who Alan is - there are a lot of them about. I have just written about this on the Festool Owners Group forum: festoolownersgroup.com/other-tool-reviews/miter-saw-recommendations-(other-than-kapex)/msg555862/?topicseen#msg555862 Go for the Kapex ! Peter
Thankyou Peter for taking the time, sorry for getting your name wrong, I have just finished a large order f reproduction doors so my head was not in he right place, thank you again regards Louie
I assume that if one has a KS120, and has no portability concerns, there's no real reason to get this, right? It doesn't look like there's any increase in cut capability in any direction, minus a few more degrees of angle. It's difficult to tell, but I assume the max cut width is the same as the 120?
IOW, I assume this is more about making a more portable miter saw for trim work.
Hi Pete, Yes, it s about being more portable and I will stick with my KS 120. It is a close call though as the price is quite tempting for the first time Festool mitre saw buyer. Peter
Perfect, thanks. I like my full-size Kapex. If anything, I'd like to see one with a larger blade and even more capacity.
It's tempting to treat Festool stuff like Pokemon, and catch them all. I just stacked up all my sander systainers the other day and asked myself what on earth I was thinking. :)
Hi Pete, I am not sure if capacity is the driver for me or just the solid feel of the larger Kapex. The KS60 is sweet and does a great job but I quite like "solid" when they are not needed to go anywhere. Cheers. Peter
Hello Peter. Another good video. I still am unable to email you. I can't find the private email button on your channel. When you get a chance please throw a RUclips neophyte a bone on how to send you a private message. Thank you sir and have a good day.
Hi Ron, Follow this link: ruclips.net/user/StoneMessage Hit the "About" tab and then "Send Message". I am told that on some hand held devices this does not work but it is fine on a PC or laptop. Peter
Thanks Peter
He He 12:55. .. I'll just keep the additional jokes for myself for now..
Thank you ! Peter
It's not accurate, the 45° bevel function is not straight. Check before you buy. I returned 2 of them
Mine was spot on. Peter
I have bought 8 of them and they were all straight. I am doubting your returning 2 of them. I think I have read several comments by you on different videos.
Don't buy it - just got one and the bevel is not right at 0° - and there is no way to adjust it. Each time I have to cut something I have to check with a square.
Really deceived by such a big name, so expensive saw !
The great thing that you are able to use is the 30 day free and no quibble return policy. Under the 3 year guarantee you would have been able to get Festool to pick it up, repair it or replace it and then return it to you and all free of charge. Peter