The gift of prophet (Ephesians 4:11) seems to have been a temporary gift given by Christ for the laying of the foundation of the church. Prophets were foundational to the church (Ephesians 2:20). The prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord to the early believers. Sometimes a prophet’s message was revelatory (new revelation and truth from God) and sometimes a prophet’s message was predictive (see Acts 11:28 and 21:10). The early Christians did not have the complete Bible. Some early Christians did not have access to any of the books of the New Testament. The New Testament prophets “filled the gap” by proclaiming God’s message to the people who would not have access to it otherwise. The last book of the New Testament (Revelation) was not completed until late in the first century. So, the Lord sent prophets to proclaim God’s Word to His people. Are there true prophets today? If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No. Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether it is a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).
@@ShowChrist1 Thanks for the response. First off, I agree with your last paragraph but I do not know how much it can contribute to the conversation. But unfortunately, in the rest of the other passages, you were unable to show a bible reference for your conclusion that there are no prophets or apostles in the present generation. The very claim that "we dont need prophets" reflects that you dont want to accept the continuation of the office of Prophets You made a big jump and made many assumptions to walk all of us to the conclusions you want to believe. 1. Are apostles and Prophets there just to be the foundation? You assume it so. If thats the case why would Paul consider Junias to be a notable apostle, Barnabas and Simeon to be teachers and prophets, and Luke call Agabus a prophets? What foundation did Junias, Barnabas, Simeon, Agabus lay? 2. You defined the gift of prophecy. But is it an accurate and comprehensive definition? What is the evidence for you to conclude that the prophets in the NT acted as a medium to "fill the gap"? Any bible reference? Why can't such prophets like Agabus continue to prophesy now a days? Perhaps your theological bias doesn't allow it. After all I dont see the gospel in hearing how paul would be arrested.I don't understand how Agabus "filled the gap" here by prophesying it. 3. " If the purpose of the prophet is to reveal truth from God WHY WOULD WE NEED PROPHETS if we have completed revelation from God? " Where did the bible say that the prophets and apostles cease to exist after the completion of the bible? You assume it so. 5. We both agree that God can use a person to reveal something supernaturally. But you do not wish to call him a prophet. That seems to contradict the example you showed - Agabus. After all, I have not seen Agabus supernaturally preaching the gospel but supernaturally prophesying how Paul would be arrested and how famine would come. He did not lay any foundation, yet he was called Prophet. If Paul is happy to recognise Agabus a prophet, what is stopping you to call others who have the same office Prophets? You made a lot of inferences to come to the conclusion you are at now. This in no way proves that there are no apostles of prophets today. You may ask me to show one if such people really exist. But I don't have to as the bible doesnt say it. Finally...1 Cor 12 - Now *you* are *the body of Christ*, and *individual members* of it. 28 And God has *appointed these* in the church: first *apostles*, second *prophets*, third *teachers*, next *miracles*, then *gifts of healing*, *helping*, *leading*, various *kinds of tongues*. 29 Are all *apostles*? Are all *prophets*? Are all *teachers*? Do all do miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But desire the greater gifts. This verse put Apostles, Prophets and Teachers collectively. I dont understand why Apostles and Prophets need to get extinct and Teachers to exist. I don't see a seperation you try to bring. If you say apostles and propets ceased, you need to say teachers also ceas as God appointed them together for the Church. Just because you dont feel their need, doesnt mean that God would think the same.
వందనాలు సురేష్ అయ్యగారు ఇ ప్రశ్న ఎప్పటి నుండో నన్ను వెంటాడుతూంది ఇప్పటికి నెరవేరింది అయ్యగారు నాది చిన్న విన్నపం సంగలలో భోదించే వారు పేరుకు ముందు 'రేవ రేంట్ అని దైవ జనులు అని ఎదదో పేర్లు పెట్టుకుంటున్నారు అసలు ఇ పేర్లను మేము ఎలా పరిగణించలి దయచేసి నా విన్నపం మన్నిస్తారని అసిస్తు ఒక విశ్వాసిగా పట్నాల శ్రీను
సార్ వందనాలు సార్ ఇలాంటి సత్యవాక్కుని వివరించే వారు చాలా తక్కువ గా ఉన్నారు సార్ కొందరు ప్రవక్తలను అని చెప్పుకుంటూ కొందరు అపోస్తులఅని చెప్పుకుంటూ క్రైస్తవాన్ని మోసం చేస్తున్నారు
Thanks brother, వాక్యమును అర్ధం చేసికొనక, నిజదేవుని వదలిపెట్టి , దయ్యాలు, మహత్కార్యాలు అంటూ అరటిపళ్ళు, ఆపిల్ పండ్లు కొరకు దొంగ బోధకుల చుట్టూ డాడీ, మమ్మి అంటూ పరుగులు పెట్టే అమాయక ప్రజలు ఎంతమంది ఉన్నారో, తెలిసో తెలియకో సత్యవాక్కును వ్యతిరేకిస్తూ, సత్యదేవునికి వ్యతిరేకంగా నిలబడే వారు ఎంతమంది ఉన్నారో కామెంట్స్ చుస్తే అర్ధం అవుతుంది. ప్రార్ధించడం ప్రకటించటం తప్ప మనము ఇంకేమి చేయలేము.
@@ShowChrist1 Wooww.... Now you say only you believe the True God? So you mean to say that others believe in false God? Cummon, you took a position of Judge that is not reserved for you. This is the height of arrogance. Well, if you are able to defend your position defend it without beating round the bush. For now, leave the role of the Judge to Jesus
ప్రవక్తలు ప్రవచించవలసినవన్నీ బైబిల్ లో వ్రాయబడిపోయాయి కనుక ప్రవక్తలు ఉండరు అని బైబిల్ లో ఒక్క రెఫెరెన్సుయైనా ఉందా ? సంఘకాలం లోని విశ్వాసులకు పరిశుద్దాత్మ యొక్క నడిపింపు, ఆదరణం శక్తి,అభిషేకము అవసరం ఉండదని లేక అక్కర్లేదని మీరు బోధిస్తున్నట్లైతే మీరు ఖచ్చితంగా అవద్దబోధకులే. పరిశుద్ధాత్ముడు ఈభూమిమీద ఉన్నంతవరకు , ప్రవక్తలతోను , అపొస్తలులతోను స్వస్థపరచువారితోను విశ్వాసులతోను, ప్రవచించువారితో పరిశుద్ధాత్ముడు పనిచేస్తాడు. పరిశుద్ధాత్ముడు పనిచేసేది సాతానుతో కాదు
The gift of prophet (Ephesians 4:11) seems to have been a temporary gift given by Christ for the laying of the foundation of the church. Prophets were foundational to the church (Ephesians 2:20). The prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord to the early believers. Sometimes a prophet’s message was revelatory (new revelation and truth from God) and sometimes a prophet’s message was predictive (see Acts 11:28 and 21:10). The early Christians did not have the complete Bible. Some early Christians did not have access to any of the books of the New Testament. The New Testament prophets “filled the gap” by proclaiming God’s message to the people who would not have access to it otherwise. The last book of the New Testament (Revelation) was not completed until late in the first century. So, the Lord sent prophets to proclaim God’s Word to His people. Are there true prophets today? If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No. Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether it is a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).
Wrong perception. మీరు ఇంత బ్రాడ్ గ think చేసే వాళ్ళు, ఇలా opine అవడం shocking గ ఉంది. పని అయిపోయింది అని అనుకోవాల్సింది మీరు కాదు కద. దేవుడు కద అనుకోవాలి! Early Church has prophets and teachers.. Bible clearly mentioned it. Prophet is one of 5fold ministries. Do u say that bible verse is wrongly written? ఇది మీరు నచ్చకపోవడం బట్టి ఇలా opine అవుతున్నారు. Don't say that office has stopped.
The gift of prophet (Ephesians 4:11) seems to have been a temporary gift given by Christ for the laying of the foundation of the church. Prophets were foundational to the church (Ephesians 2:20). The prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord to the early believers. Sometimes a prophet’s message was revelatory (new revelation and truth from God) and sometimes a prophet’s message was predictive (see Acts 11:28 and 21:10). The early Christians did not have the complete Bible. Some early Christians did not have access to any of the books of the New Testament. The New Testament prophets “filled the gap” by proclaiming God’s message to the people who would not have access to it otherwise. The last book of the New Testament (Revelation) was not completed until late in the first century. So, the Lord sent prophets to proclaim God’s Word to His people. Are there true prophets today? If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No. Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether it is a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).
@@ShowChrist1 [13] until we all reach oneness in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God, [growing spiritually] to become a mature believer, reaching to the measure of the fullness of Christ [manifesting His spiritual completeness and exercising our spiritual gifts in unity]. [14] So that we are no longer children [spiritually immature], tossed back and forth [like ships on a stormy sea] and carried about by every wind of [shifting] doctrine, by the cunning and trickery of [unscrupulous] men, by the deceitful scheming of people ready to do anything [for personal profit]. Do u think John's revelation about end times and Pauls explanations about who Jesus is has finished these above said.. '..oneness in faith.. mature.. no longer immature.. finished building body of Christ?? Revelation about Jesus might be finished..(I don't think so, no one can understand trinity) but did it bring all people atleast who are inside the church to same faith? Ephesians 4:12 AMP [12] [and He did this] to fully equip and perfect the saints (God’s people) for works of service, to build up the body of Christ [the church]; Offices are given to Church to equip and perfect the saints. Time limit is not mentioned. U are with an opinion that.. only teachers are enough to equip and perfect the church! It's a big joke. See the people, who will listen to ur teaching when families are being burnt? People in pain and suffering can't heed to sermons and teaching.. As much as teachers office is open. Prophets office is also open. We have different roles with same target. We must strive to work together. As u struggled to become a teacher (or to attain knowledge in your days) even prophets struggle. Has anyone grew in understanding straightly? Every office struggles and reaches a height. Struggle doesn't stop unless settled with whatever level achieved. If everything has finished, book of revelations would have mentioned it..from here on all offices are gone, except teachers office!
@@Vsp-wy8rn i Second with you, brother. I responded in a similar way. Not just this, Suresh vanguri garu has hatred towards some teachings. He seems to be influenced by Justin Peters and some other so called discernment ministries. His arguments come with the same poor study when pointing at others.
చాలా బాగా చెప్పారు సార్.
Thanks for sharing your personal view, sir.
Now, please share what the bible says.
The gift of prophet (Ephesians 4:11) seems to have been a temporary gift given by Christ for the laying of the foundation of the church. Prophets were foundational to the church (Ephesians 2:20). The prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord to the early believers. Sometimes a prophet’s message was revelatory (new revelation and truth from God) and sometimes a prophet’s message was predictive (see Acts 11:28 and 21:10). The early Christians did not have the complete Bible. Some early Christians did not have access to any of the books of the New Testament. The New Testament prophets “filled the gap” by proclaiming God’s message to the people who would not have access to it otherwise. The last book of the New Testament (Revelation) was not completed until late in the first century. So, the Lord sent prophets to proclaim God’s Word to His people.
Are there true prophets today? If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No.
Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether it is a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).
@@ShowChrist1
Thanks for the response. First off, I agree with your last paragraph but I do not know how much it can contribute to the conversation. But unfortunately, in the rest of the other passages, you were unable to show a bible reference for your conclusion that there are no prophets or apostles in the present generation.
The very claim that "we dont need prophets" reflects that you dont want to accept the continuation of the office of Prophets
You made a big jump and made many assumptions to walk all of us to the conclusions you want to believe.
1. Are apostles and Prophets there just to be the foundation? You assume it so. If thats the case why would Paul consider Junias to be a notable apostle, Barnabas and Simeon to be teachers and prophets, and Luke call Agabus a prophets? What foundation did Junias, Barnabas, Simeon, Agabus lay?
2. You defined the gift of prophecy. But is it an accurate and comprehensive definition? What is the evidence for you to conclude that the prophets in the NT acted as a medium to "fill the gap"? Any bible reference? Why can't such prophets like Agabus continue to prophesy now a days? Perhaps your theological bias doesn't allow it. After all I dont see the gospel in hearing how paul would be arrested.I don't understand how Agabus "filled the gap" here by prophesying it.
3. " If the purpose of the prophet is to reveal truth from God WHY WOULD WE NEED PROPHETS if we have completed revelation from God? " Where did the bible say that the prophets and apostles cease to exist after the completion of the bible? You assume it so.
5. We both agree that God can use a person to reveal something supernaturally. But you do not wish to call him a prophet. That seems to contradict the example you showed - Agabus. After all, I have not seen Agabus supernaturally preaching the gospel but supernaturally prophesying how Paul would be arrested and how famine would come. He did not lay any foundation, yet he was called Prophet. If Paul is happy to recognise Agabus a prophet, what is stopping you to call others who have the same office Prophets?
You made a lot of inferences to come to the conclusion you are at now. This in no way proves that there are no apostles of prophets today. You may ask me to show one if such people really exist. But I don't have to as the bible doesnt say it.
Finally...1 Cor 12 - Now *you* are *the body of Christ*, and *individual members* of it. 28 And God has *appointed these* in the church: first *apostles*, second *prophets*, third *teachers*, next *miracles*, then *gifts of healing*, *helping*, *leading*, various *kinds of tongues*. 29 Are all *apostles*? Are all *prophets*? Are all *teachers*? Do all do miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But desire the greater gifts.
This verse put Apostles, Prophets and Teachers collectively. I dont understand why Apostles and Prophets need to get extinct and Teachers to exist. I don't see a seperation you try to bring. If you say apostles and propets ceased, you need to say teachers also ceas as God appointed them together for the Church.
Just because you dont feel their need, doesnt mean that God would think the same.
వందనాలు సురేష్ అయ్యగారు ఇ ప్రశ్న ఎప్పటి నుండో నన్ను వెంటాడుతూంది ఇప్పటికి నెరవేరింది
అయ్యగారు నాది చిన్న విన్నపం
సంగలలో భోదించే వారు పేరుకు ముందు 'రేవ రేంట్ అని దైవ జనులు అని ఎదదో పేర్లు పెట్టుకుంటున్నారు అసలు ఇ పేర్లను మేము ఎలా పరిగణించలి దయచేసి నా విన్నపం మన్నిస్తారని అసిస్తు ఒక విశ్వాసిగా
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Anna please respond recently in Olympic mock jesus and Christianity do video based on Bible verses.
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సార్ వందనాలు సార్ ఇలాంటి సత్యవాక్కుని వివరించే వారు చాలా తక్కువ గా ఉన్నారు సార్ కొందరు ప్రవక్తలను అని చెప్పుకుంటూ కొందరు అపోస్తులఅని చెప్పుకుంటూ క్రైస్తవాన్ని మోసం చేస్తున్నారు
Thanks brother, వాక్యమును అర్ధం చేసికొనక, నిజదేవుని వదలిపెట్టి , దయ్యాలు, మహత్కార్యాలు అంటూ అరటిపళ్ళు, ఆపిల్ పండ్లు కొరకు దొంగ బోధకుల చుట్టూ డాడీ, మమ్మి అంటూ పరుగులు పెట్టే అమాయక ప్రజలు ఎంతమంది ఉన్నారో, తెలిసో తెలియకో సత్యవాక్కును వ్యతిరేకిస్తూ, సత్యదేవునికి వ్యతిరేకంగా నిలబడే వారు ఎంతమంది ఉన్నారో కామెంట్స్ చుస్తే అర్ధం అవుతుంది. ప్రార్ధించడం ప్రకటించటం తప్ప మనము ఇంకేమి చేయలేము.
@@ShowChrist1 Wooww.... Now you say only you believe the True God? So you mean to say that others believe in false God?
Cummon, you took a position of Judge that is not reserved for you. This is the height of arrogance.
Well, if you are able to defend your position defend it without beating round the bush. For now, leave the role of the Judge to Jesus
ప్రవక్తలు ప్రవచించవలసినవన్నీ బైబిల్ లో వ్రాయబడిపోయాయి కనుక ప్రవక్తలు ఉండరు అని బైబిల్ లో ఒక్క రెఫెరెన్సుయైనా ఉందా ?
సంఘకాలం లోని విశ్వాసులకు పరిశుద్దాత్మ యొక్క నడిపింపు, ఆదరణం శక్తి,అభిషేకము అవసరం ఉండదని లేక అక్కర్లేదని మీరు బోధిస్తున్నట్లైతే మీరు ఖచ్చితంగా అవద్దబోధకులే.
పరిశుద్ధాత్ముడు ఈభూమిమీద ఉన్నంతవరకు , ప్రవక్తలతోను , అపొస్తలులతోను స్వస్థపరచువారితోను విశ్వాసులతోను, ప్రవచించువారితో పరిశుద్ధాత్ముడు పనిచేస్తాడు. పరిశుద్ధాత్ముడు పనిచేసేది సాతానుతో కాదు
The gift of prophet (Ephesians 4:11) seems to have been a temporary gift given by Christ for the laying of the foundation of the church. Prophets were foundational to the church (Ephesians 2:20). The prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord to the early believers. Sometimes a prophet’s message was revelatory (new revelation and truth from God) and sometimes a prophet’s message was predictive (see Acts 11:28 and 21:10). The early Christians did not have the complete Bible. Some early Christians did not have access to any of the books of the New Testament. The New Testament prophets “filled the gap” by proclaiming God’s message to the people who would not have access to it otherwise. The last book of the New Testament (Revelation) was not completed until late in the first century. So, the Lord sent prophets to proclaim God’s Word to His people.
Are there true prophets today? If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No.
Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether it is a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).
Your answer is not at all suitable for question
It is absolutely misinterpretation
Wrong perception. మీరు ఇంత బ్రాడ్ గ think చేసే వాళ్ళు, ఇలా opine అవడం shocking గ ఉంది. పని అయిపోయింది అని అనుకోవాల్సింది మీరు కాదు కద. దేవుడు కద అనుకోవాలి! Early Church has prophets and teachers.. Bible clearly mentioned it. Prophet is one of 5fold ministries. Do u say that bible verse is wrongly written? ఇది మీరు నచ్చకపోవడం బట్టి ఇలా opine అవుతున్నారు. Don't say that office has stopped.
The gift of prophet (Ephesians 4:11) seems to have been a temporary gift given by Christ for the laying of the foundation of the church. Prophets were foundational to the church (Ephesians 2:20). The prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord to the early believers. Sometimes a prophet’s message was revelatory (new revelation and truth from God) and sometimes a prophet’s message was predictive (see Acts 11:28 and 21:10). The early Christians did not have the complete Bible. Some early Christians did not have access to any of the books of the New Testament. The New Testament prophets “filled the gap” by proclaiming God’s message to the people who would not have access to it otherwise. The last book of the New Testament (Revelation) was not completed until late in the first century. So, the Lord sent prophets to proclaim God’s Word to His people.
Are there true prophets today? If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No.
Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether it is a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).
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[13] until we all reach oneness in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God, [growing spiritually] to become a mature believer, reaching to the measure of the fullness of Christ [manifesting His spiritual completeness and exercising our spiritual gifts in unity]. [14] So that we are no longer children [spiritually immature], tossed back and forth [like ships on a stormy sea] and carried about by every wind of [shifting] doctrine, by the cunning and trickery of [unscrupulous] men, by the deceitful scheming of people ready to do anything [for personal profit].
Do u think John's revelation about end times and Pauls explanations about who Jesus is has finished these above said..
'..oneness in faith.. mature.. no longer immature.. finished building body of Christ??
Revelation about Jesus might be finished..(I don't think so, no one can understand trinity) but did it bring all people atleast who are inside the church to same faith?
Ephesians 4:12 AMP
[12] [and He did this] to fully equip and perfect the saints (God’s people) for works of service, to build up the body of Christ [the church];
Offices are given to Church to equip and perfect the saints. Time limit is not mentioned.
U are with an opinion that.. only teachers are enough to equip and perfect the church! It's a big joke. See the people, who will listen to ur teaching when families are being burnt? People in pain and suffering can't heed to sermons and teaching..
As much as teachers office is open. Prophets office is also open. We have different roles with same target. We must strive to work together. As u struggled to become a teacher (or to attain knowledge in your days) even prophets struggle. Has anyone grew in understanding straightly? Every office struggles and reaches a height. Struggle doesn't stop unless settled with whatever level achieved.
If everything has finished, book of revelations would have mentioned it..from here on all offices are gone, except teachers office!
@@Vsp-wy8rn i Second with you, brother. I responded in a similar way. Not just this, Suresh vanguri garu has hatred towards some teachings. He seems to be influenced by Justin Peters and some other so called discernment ministries. His arguments come with the same poor study when pointing at others.