British Marine Reacts To Is The US Army’s New Helmet a Complete Disaster? Garand Thumb
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No offense but Garand Thumb is much more of an expert on this than you are. Furthermore, he's there holding it in his hands and you are watching on a screen. So it's kind of silly that you are questioning his judgement.
No offence but I’m more of an expert than you are at this. Furthermore, I’m the one doing the video, you are simply commenting on it. So it’s kind of silly that you are questioning my judgement.
@@guyintenn the man is an Ex Royal Marine, one of two military groups outside of the United States that my military in-laws have high respect for. He spent time wearing one of these types of helmets in active combat theaters… not just plinking steel targets.
I get you guys are Garand thumb stans, but every comment Ryan made had a basis in fact, or was it at least a possibility… No need to get so worked up. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. 😂
It’s kind of silly that you think we can’t have a conversation about that video without passing around the helmet and comparing it physically in our hands. 😆 No offense. 😂😂😂
@@RyanForrest1664 LOL what? common! Some normie vs a Marine, clearly he knows better. Especially considering you agreed with 99% of what Garand Thumb said. Although i am concerned with your admittance that you were not aware that helmets only work against pistol round at close range, i didn't know either, but i am not a Marine.
@@RyanForrest1664 you are not more of an expert on anything the USA does. You're just a troll who spends his time criticizing everything we do because you're own military is nothing but weak.
my firearms instructor in the Swedish military use to say: protection gear "can" save you but don't bet on it its made to give you a better chance at surviving then 0% and every % is important.
“You really just don’t want to get shot in the head…”
Ryan Forrest 2024 😁
The Germans really made the greatest helmet design 80 years ago and it's just material composition making it better today
Agreed
The Stahlhelm is over 100 years old now. It first appeared in WW1.
@@stahlhelmturtle9822 Yes it is and helmets are still designed for the same thing, fragmentation not rounds
@@tylersimplot13 military helmets are designed to stop frag, but many commercially available helmets intended for civilian or police use are designed to stop handgun rounds.
@@stahlhelmturtle9822 First off thanks for the lesson I already knew and agreed to. I assume your not very smart. Secondly no helmet is designed with a primary purpose of stopping handgun rounds. Since they use the same ones the military uses which means they are indeed not meant to stop pistol rounds and thats even using your logic in the previous comment. I mean you must be genuinely dumb
My favorite from this channel is "How deadly is a flintlock" or some similar title.
This was RUTHLESS, never F with a flintlock.
So happy you discovered the guntoobers. Those are my go-to channels.
Same here. Kentucky Ballistics, Admin, Highspeed Ballistics, Brandon Herrera, Matt Carriker. The usual suspects.....
@@TheRagratus can’t forget demolition ranch 😂
Garand Thumb is retired US SF. He knows his shit.
Garand is former us Air Force tacp! Not sf
@@KevinDiazx11they are sf qualified and GT was also a SERE instructor. He's just about as good as they come.
@@Yumums you do know the title SF is only for green berets right 😂😂😂 us army special forces! For him to be sf qualified he knew to go to SFAS AND THE Q COURSE smart one! TACPs have their on selection ..they do go to SERE school or be instructors
He also never deployed to a combat zone
You’re on a good path of reactions, I’d like to get your thoughts on garand’s take of the SA80
Sure, the sa80 they were reviewing was actually a terrible version of the weapon. The newer A3 model is a great weapon
@@RyanForrest1664Did you know though that the A2&A3 are more or less completely different rifles than the A1? When redesigning the A2&A3 they replaced majority of the internals and several other things. From what I've hesrd from several sources they only kept like 1 or 2 things from the original A1 design
@Ryan Forrest Garand has a video of 2 foreign volunteers talking about the fighting in Ukraine. 1 of them is a Brit. Definitely the thing you should watch next.
So, with the new helmet, if shot in the head with a rifle, you'll at least be able to have an open casket funeral. I will say this from experience I have been saved by my helmet from an ak. I peeked around a corner and took one to the helmet. It was estimated that the shot was from about 150yrds. When the round impacted, I lost vision for a few seconds, and I had a RAGING headache and the world's biggest goose egg.
The thing about helmets is that they were initially designed to primarily help protect against flak and grenade shrapnel. Not bullets.
I have always thought that the primary role of a helmet is protection from shrapnel and fragments with bullets secondary and only at oblique angles/distance.
Really makes you realise that the philosophy with the old brodie helmets was likely
"Well, we can't make it stop the rifle rounds that are going to be used against it, so let's just make it strong enough to stop shrapnel and falling debris."
This guy is ex Air Force special operations. He is a badass
A lot of people don't understand that yeah we made body armor. But then we made ammo that goes through the body armor. We recognize the enemy is doing the same thing so every country gets something to beat that thing. That is how warfare works. Something is made and something gets made to counter it.
Why not put some thinner padding on the outside and put a Kevlar overtop since the round was caught in it it’s obviously very effective in stopping rounds that’s 2 more layers of stoppage well the padding isn’t doing much but it’s still something
I remember doing the army ROTC class in college. When we were on the live fire range, we were wearing old frag vests (heavy padded vests for catching grenade and bullet frag) as stand-ins for body armor, and mine had a small hole in the left breast pocket. When I opened it up, there was the instruction manual on how to lace up the sides, it had a matching hole in it, the padding had a hole, and the back pad looked like it was hit with a shotgun. My confidence in it protecting me at all dropped to 0 that day because I realized I was wearing a dead man's vest.
Aac is making American made 762-39!!!awesome
Garand Thumb recently reviewed the current issue Chinese helmets
You should checkout ballistic high speed. Guns and explosions at 100,000 fps and more. Very cool stuff to see
if you drop a motorcycle helmet on the ground you are supposed to replace it. PPE like this is meant to be one time use only.
NATO's SS109 is a 62 grain projectile going about 3100 fps from a 20" barreled rifle. The US adopted their own version, which functions in any NATO issued rifle, but it has a hardened steep "Penetrator" tip in front of the lead core. It's still 62 grains going about 3100 fps from a 20" rifle. The "penetrator" is supposed to help with penetration against barriers like interior and exterior walls. But it doesn't...what the penetrator does is go in a random direction inside the target when the bullet fragments. Some time ago, the Army figured out that the shorter barreled M-4 wasn't doing so well with the M855 round. When you have a shorter barrel, the bullet doesn't go as fast so it doesn't hit as hard at range. Killing two birds with one stone, the US Army started using an "eco" bullet that's lead free so they don't have to worry about mining the lead out of their shooting ranges when it starts leeching into the groundwater, which then gets into the water tables where they do a lot of training. The new round is the M855A1, which is a bullet machined out of copper, but it still has the steel "penetrator" in the tip, but it's still not Armor Penetrating. Because copper is lighter than lead, the bullet is longer with a better coefficient of friction. That gives it better long range performance and accuracy. The US Army ends up dictating what the US Marines and other branches adopt because Big Army contracts end up what the industry makes for everyone else. For a while, the Marines were using the same 77 grain ammo the Special Forces issue, but smaller contracts cost more, so now they're using M855A1.
The term "armor penetrating" has been co-opted for political reasons into rounds that can penetrate bullet resistant vests instead of actual armor plate, btw. Most rifles can penetrate body armor without plates, but most criminals use handguns and rarely wear body armor.
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These helmets are also not multi hit hated. Like a motorcycle helmet. Any significant blow would compromise the core construction and need replacement
Garand thumb is absolutely good stuff. The man has handed out a lot of precious information to anyone who would listen, anyone he could reach, just because he cares. Those guys are out right entertaining as well with their twisted sense of humor.
I would also recommend watching Demolition Ranch. A bit less science but a lot more explosions 😂
Things are different here Ryan. I got my first shotgun (20ga.) at 9 years of age. People here know guns or at least all of my friends do!!!
Love you point of view, please keep going! You’re doing great!
I'm a long time subscriber of yours, Garand Thumb, Donut Operator and Unsubscribe Podcast as well as a slough of others affiliated with them. I Slipped Unsub the Idea to invite you on. I'm just a lowly truck driver but I think that would be an amazing podcast! Much love from across the Pond!
GT does some excellent videos and has the SF experience. Enjoy hearing your take on his content. GT can also be very very funny in his gun reviews etc.
I'm really surprised they stopped a 44mag. I had the Kevlar before ach then later issued ach. The first helmet would offer little protection from direct fire even from pistols. Both of these were huge improvements to that. But yeah at the end of the day they are designed for frag protection. You have diminishing returns if your walking around with the equivalent of level 4 plates on your head.
As long as the deformation doesn't exceed the thickness of the pads, you should be good. headache, but good. Once it starts pushing in further than the pads are thick, you'll start seeing damage to your skull.
The standard for testing rifle penetration has been to penetrate a helmet at 100 meters. It used to be US steel helmets at 100 yards, now it's Kevlar helmets at 100 meters. You have to be LUCKY for a helmet to do anything against any rifle. Flak vests during Vietnam until the 80's was never meant to stop bullets, but to prevent wounds from shrapnel, just like helmets. Plus, if you're shooting an enemy who's facing you, odds are they'll get hit in the face where there is no protection other than goggles or NODS (which still won't stop a direct hit).
Shawn Ryan had a guest on his show that got shot in the helmet. He was knocked out for a few seconds but then continued in the fight.
I was told in basic training that my Kevlar helmet was bulletproof.. not.
I was told that when I was in the army ROTC class in college, and those were the older helmets from the late 90s early 2000s. They also had everyone wearing frag vests on the range as cheaper stand-ins for body armor. I really liked when I realized mine had a hole in the left breast pocket. The instruction manual on how to lace up the sides was still in it, which also had a matching hole. The pad behind it had a hole, and the back pad looked like it was hit with a shotgun. That was when I realized I was wearing a dead man's vest.
Going through E.M.T. training in the late 90's. My instructors said the stats on head injuries. Was 60% of all head wounds are not fatal. Now whether it leaves you drooling or not, is a different story.
8 years im the marines i had zero knowledge helmets were only rated for pistols i was aware that the flak im our body armour was ment for stabbing, shrapnel and 9 mm or smaller also that the plates were rsted for 7.62 bht only one. I always had my dought tho about any of rhst knowing and seeing what i have in firearms
Glad to see some Garand Thumb reacts he has an awesome channel can't wait for more👍
More to come!
Garand Thumb reactions are a huge W
44 magnum has been the standard for soft armor pretty much since its invention. Far as i know most soft armor will catch a 44 magnum, but it still gonna knock the snot out of you.
I'd say your average head shot is well over 250-300 meters so the bullet would lose a little velocity
it seems like, not matter how you slice and dice it, it's still going to mess you up in the head. it's a matter of degrees, and the caliber of gun you're using. my attitude is the defense companies should always look towards the worst case senerio, when making military equipment.
I was surprised that the .22 did the damage it did. Yea, Don't get shot in the head.
I mean, I felt safer as a 113 driver when we swapped from a fiberglass cvc helmet shell to a kevlar cvc shell. It was over 20 years ago, i don't know if we ever felt our gear would save our life aside from our plates on chest.
I love there channel there always so informational and also very funny as well
Shotgun is what made the Germans cry lol Trench sweepers
14:17 Yeah basically you should have just worn your green beret or baseball hat
With a helmet you aren't 100% safe but you are more safe that without it.
One of the greatest things I was ever told during basic was that our equipment was made by the lowest bidder! 🤣
They usually have a little comedy mixed in, this was, for good reason, more serious .
Helmets are not made to stop bullets, but rather shrapnel which in WWII acdounted for about 45% of casualties. Not a useless, but unrealistic test about performance for what they were designed for.
Thank you Marine!!! Stay safe sir...... Keep your gunpowder dry. Stay safe................
The helmets we wore in the 90's were really only good for shrapnel and debris.
And a sore neck. I was in for 5 years, wore a kevlar for only 2 of them. Steel Pots and Gun Jeeps. Old School MP right here.
Hell, I got issued OG's.
5:31 good enough for government work
Thanks for the video
Garand is a former us Air Force Tacp! Been to combat he knows what he is talking about
check out PSR.
his specialty is 3D "squirted" guns. 🔫
(for EVERYONE'S info BTW.
But can you cook an MRE in it?
No, but they have flameless ration heaters to heat up MREs. Since the adoption of Kevlar helmets in the 1980s, cooking in a helmet was no longer practical. MREs were adopted around the same time, so it worked out.
14:56 Why the hell is he shooting from a kneeled position?Get a table.
Or a pole
Let's talk about how much force it takes to rip a strapped on helmet from your head.
It will still ring your bell for sure
love these reacts
keep up the good work Ryan.
You should react to Garand Thumb's new Chinese combat helmet reaction
Have you seen xm-157 scope
The answer is no, no it’s not a disaster lol
i haven't seen anything about your boxing for a while, what happened just curious.
Love it bro❤❤❤❤❤
Damn! That's Hard to watch ...
Pretty sure Mike "Garand Thumb" is a former SF operator "green beret", wonder if Ryan is aware of that.
He was a TACP in the airforce
@@corydougherty850 ahh ok, thanks for the correction.
Still a hard SF role for sure. Not to discredit him
lol you’re just making shit up
@@ToxicGamer86454 who's making what up?
he did the chinese helmet on Sunday
I'd still rather be wearing one of these helmets than not.
Sonoran Desert Institute ! Got It.
Pick any one of those shots... TBI for sure.
this is way i love america you can buy all this at your local gun store or order it online and they will ship it right to your ffl. im so sorry you live in a country where you dont have these freedoms. i wouldn't be able to walk around without a pistol on my side. i just couldn't do it.
How many tism jokes are made about the military? We don’t wear the helmets for bullets, we wear them because we’re special.
Helmets are for shrapnel.
Thier making new movies of SAS like james bond
Can brits learn how to gunsmith or would they be knocking on your door wondering why you are learning how to build rifles?
Youll have your head but youll be getting coloring books for the rest your life thsts for sure
If you are a US Marine, so long as they provide red crayons for them coloring books...sh*t gettin' effed up.
👍👍 Don't buy anything Chinese!!!!
No country go to war with a 22
North Korea.
Well, friend, if all ya got are .22 lr's, I'd agree. BUT, what about F-22's? 🤣
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