Issues and Solutions with the Yeswelder LYG M800H Welding Helmet
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- Issues and Solutions with the Yeswelder LYG M800H Welding Helmet - I've had a couple of issues with this model helmet. I talk about the issues and how to utilize the Yeswelder 1 year warranty. Use the promo code DIYHP10% at checkout for 10% OFF your entire order at yeswelder.com/?ref=DIYHP10%25
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A fresh problem I had the other day & I forgot to mention that is fumes able to get into the unit behind the front protective screen. I put another new plastic protective screen in front stuck with duct tape... I didn't want splatter on my nice tig screen! I did an unusual for me stick welding to make a heavy duty Log Splitter so didn't tig it. I notice when mild steel welding porosity sometimes occurs too often. A young professional welder pal says =that happens a lot with mild steel even with careful adjustment of the pure argon. Is mild steel quality crap these days =I don't know. He ahs a 3M at £300 but I find that out of my category now I'm 81!
I just bought this helmet and received it today. I've been a welder for over 30 years. I've had tightening knobs break on Jackson, Lincoln and Hobart welding helmets, so it shouldn't be a surprise if this one breaks on me too. As for the flashing, the same thing can happen with expensive helmets, especially when bright sunlight is shinning directly on you or your work project. Yes the helmet head strap is kind of flimsy but it actually feels very comfortable when wearing it all day. All I can say is, this helmet does everything the expensive helmets do for one-third of the price.
I agree with you, why spend more than necessary to get the job done? I've been happy with the purchase and will buy another one if this one quits working or breaks. Thanks for the input MyBlues65!
Thanks for commenting just got out of school and was looking for a hood that wasn’t the cheap non auto darkening one they gave us through my school but something that was 300$ and your comment shows me buying one of these to start with will be ok I start my first job as a welder in a couple days so thank you
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It's been 8 months, do you still like this helmet? I'm thinking about buying one... my Northern is finally dying on me and I would really like something with 4 sensors.
DaddyO's Ink I do still like this helmet. No helmet is perfect and they can all have issues. IMO the YesWelder helmets are about the best bang for your buck out there. The helmet gives a great view of the weld puddle and it's comfortable and affordable. That's all I need and I would buy it again if it quits working for some reason.
honest and straight forward review, the flashing problem i was concerned about but still going to try this helmet. CHEERS
Hello Keven, I still use this same helmet today. It's treated me well and I think it's a good value for the money. I hope you enjoy yours too! Thanks for watching and commenting!
If I remember correctly the flashing on my helmet went away when I put on a new battery.
I read online that the Lincoln headgear fits these helmets perfectly and is of higher quality. It goes for $21 is what the guy said online.
which Lincoln headgear??
Excellent video on the Yeswelder LYG M800H Welding Helmet. Thank you for sharing your experience with the helmet. 👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you, I hope it helps you out. IMO it's a great value for the money.
Love the honesty, you just gained another subscriber
I appreciate that!
Very nice video Thanks. The first Trusoxin same as you helmet started flashing at a very short time use on Tig stainless. Due to it being bought from Amazon I got a refund with no need to send the helmet back. I chucked that helmet straight in the bin. I bought anothe rhelmet that seemed to have a better write up. When it came it was the same helmet (bugger) I've had it 18months and it flashed a bit yesterday & then acted normally but with a seemed to me low light level. I don't like having to get my magnifying glass to see the numbers on the dial.
My eyes are not as good as they were at 81.
It's nice to see your up front genuine comments . Good on yer You Tube...... Shakes the product producers to the core = they had better behave? Some of you technical chaps certainly know how to put a video on that screen so you are invaluable.......
Did I get an explicit instruction/user how to with my helmets =NO.
Thanks for stopping by Michael. Happy Welding!
Got the helmet from Amazon. Knowing full well its china junk but I rolled the dice untill the money comes from a pro miller. Works well with DC tig, problem is flashing with AC tig. Specifically low current AC tig. Only fix is setting my Dynasty 280 to high pulse on AC and getting the balance to basically 95 percent EN.
Yeswelder was less than useless with help. Thank Goodness Amazon had no issues or hassle for exchange.
If you buy a YesWelder product off Amazon then Amazon is who to contact for issues. YesWelder only handles the issues of products sold on the YesWelder website from what I understand.
Thanks for the update, great honest video
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video. I’m new to welding and am terrified of being flashed. Currently shopping for a helmet and this helped. Thank you!
Glad I could help Sophie. As long as you are wearing a helmet, no reason to be terrified of being flashed.
Have you seen my newest welding helmet video? ruclips.net/video/FJhjNeu-qTc/видео.html
My friends used to borrow my welder and do lots of welding with no helmet at all, just trying to avoid looking at the arc when doing spot welds. I believe both of them got really bad welding flash, and woke up with welding flash pain. But they are both fine, and have perfect eyesight and don't have any eye damage..
DIY Homestead Projects.. I have the Yeswelder LYG-M800H, I hope I don't have any issues with it.. Thanks for the heads up on it.
I hope you don't either but if you do, try turning the sensitivity all the way up to HI. If that doesn't cure the problem, if it's less than 1 year old it's still under warranty and YesWelder will refund or replace it for you.
I like your videos. Try changing the internal rechargeable battery, which may not be reaching a full charge anymore, regardless of a perfectly good solar cell. Also try spraying out the control knobs with Deoxit contact cleaner/lubricant. ALL variable resistors behind those control knobs can develop carbon deposits and even flat spots...just like a noisy or scratchy volume/bass/treble/balance control on an old stereo receiver. Welding is a process that produces all kinds of fumes and smoke, etc. It is only logical to assume that the wiper and conductive traces inside those control knobs (potentiometers or variable resistors) can also get carbon deposits built up. Immediately after spraying the internals of a potentiometer, just exercise it by quickly turning it back and forth, from low to high end stop at least 30 times. Repeat that a second time and you now have a perfectly clean and lubricated control pot. Check for any loose wires or cold solder joints inside the screen enclosure as well. It's probably a very simple fix, but maybe not so simple or user friendly to get access to the actual issue. Make sure the optical flash sensors have no optical obstructions as well. You just might be able to fix the flashing issue. I am seriously thinking about buying the YESWELDER LYG-Q800D with side view. I think it might be a decent budget welding hood/helmet. I don't buy ANYTHING electronic without thoroughly checking all internal wiring, solder joints, heat sinks, etc. I often times find BRAND NEW items with very crappy solder joints inside, so I go over them with ROSIN CORE solder and not that newfangled "lead free" garbage can solder.
Thanks for all the tips Scott, I appreciate it! Since I made this video I have learned that my filming lights can have an impact on the performance of a welding helmet. Depending on what I'm filming and how I have my studio lights set up can impact how the helmet performs. Long story short, when I turn the helmet sensitivity all the way to High, it has pretty much eliminated the flashing with this welding helmet. I still use this welding hood quite often and I couldn't be more pleased with how it works especially at the price point.
No problem at all. I am beginning to think that auto darkening helmets just aren't worth the trouble. You only get one pair of eyes and a fixed 10/11/12 shade with never allow your eyes to get blasted with intense arc flashes. If you don't want glass, there are some pretty good polycarbonate shade lenses available as an alternative. ALSO....those little CR2032 and CR2025 coin cell batteries are available on eBay, Bnggood and probably even Amazon. I have seen them on eBay with the spot welded solder tabs AND in a shrink wrapped version with light gauge insulated wires on them with a tiny white plug. Just cut off the plug ONE WIRE AT A TIME, strip the wire ends, tin them with CLEAN rosin core solder and solder them directly to the circuit board. IF that...and cleaning control pots will not fix the issue, then I would guess a cheap little chip capacitor is weak and causing a voltage regulator circuit to have intermittent voltage sags on that cheap little display driver circuit board.
I'm not worried at all about getting flashed with an auto darkening welding hood. It may not be desirable and it can make you see dots momentarily but in my opinion it does not permanently damage your eyes. Most if not all auto darkening lenses are ANSI rated. Below is the Google definition of the ANSI rating requirements for an auto darkening welding hood.
In the United States, the industry standard for welding helmets is ANSI Z87. 1+ which specifies performance of a wide variety of eye protection devices. The standard requires that auto-darkening helmets provide full protection against both UV and IR even when they are not in the darkened state.
My understanding is the IR is what can damage your eyes. Even a lot of cheap convenient store sun glasses can have considerable UV and IR protection although I wouldn't weld with them.
Good post, I have just bought the lyg-l500a helmet. I see no reference to batterys or charging internal. They seem to be solar charged. What is the best way to keep it charged, and how do you determine when the battery is failing.
Thanks
Same thing I was thinking, in the past on one of my cheap Harbor Freight helmets when the flashing begins it is due to low battery voltage. If you can remove your batteries, check each coin cell battery voltage with a multimeter.
Wow great review and advise. I have the same helmet and the adjustment knob does keep clicking and does not tighten all the way up. I had to attach a dense foam pad to the back to help with the fit, although is still comes off when I lift the hood. Now flashing is when you strike an arc and it doesn't dim, this happened to me a couple days ago and though it was the battery so I replace it. Hasn't done it since but now maybe concerned. Dave...
Service is good, I loved mine!!
Some looseness with the band.
And then another issue, there sending me a new one.
Thanks for the info. I just received this model today and have not tried it yet. Hopefully I have no problems with it.
No problem 👍
I am a beginner welder your information being very helpful price point on welding helmets sometimes to me is extreme in some cases I think they're like a washer and dryer they just put their name on it if that makes any sense thank you again for your.
You are welcome! I agree with you on helmet pricing. I've had nothing but low priced welding helmets and I've been happy with both of them. I still use my original HF helmet that is about 7 years old now and it still does a good job. I do like the newer "clear view" helmets like my YesWelder because it helps me quite a bit but even those are reasonably priced helmets that do a good job. IMO
8 months in on my LY-800D and it's been fantastic !
Very nice! Hope it keeps up and thanks for the input! 👍
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 However, I did change my headgear to a Miller 245235 "coolbelt" unit and then provided my own air supply to avoid paying $600-$1000 on a fresh air/ air conditioned helmet. I'm about $125 total all in including mistakes (not counting helmet). I'm in Houston, so I have got to keep cool with fresh air!
Sounds like a nice set up and that's not a bad price to pay to stay cool.
I have the same helmet haven't used it yet. Thank you for the heads-up
Glad to help
Thank you for the update and information
You are welcome, I hope it helps you out.
Awesome video thankyou! Think I will spend abit more for abit more reliability, yes welder seem like a very decent company though! Also I notice you said about the delay, it actually delays how long till it goes back to it’s ‘clear’ state after you stop the arc 🔥
Great video keep it up!
Thanks! Yes I believe the delay controls how quickly it darkens and un-darkens. At least that's how I understand it.
I just opened my box and my helmet is already flashing. Thank you 🙏 for your video.
Thanks for watching
I bought one of those maybe 2 years ago. I havent had any issue with it. I have a few others but I used that particular one for months everyday and not one issue
I've been happy with mine too.
I've had one of these helmets long enough to go through several batteries. I see no reason to switch to something else. For the price, it's absolutely unbeatable. I wish the cut/grind/weld switch was a bit larger, so I could operate it with a gloved hand, but other than that, I have nothing bad to say about it. It has never flashed me, except when the battery was low.
Thanks for sharing the information! I agree with you, this has been a great helmet for the money as far as I am concerned. If it quits working I will buy another one just like it.
Helpful review. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
I just ordered one earlier today , we'll see if that problem has been fixed i guess
this confirms some of the negative reviews on Amazon. also switch breaking off and side knobs and flashing.
Yes it does. Thank you for the info and bringing the Amazon review issues to my attention. I'm sure everyone else appreciates the info as do I.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 it's hit and miss. i got a TOOLIOM helmet same price range same look. probably made in same factory just different name and side knob was defective and broke 2 minutes after i got it from amazon. but my eastwood has lasted close to two years.
Yes, these helmets are most likely produced by the thousands and have poor quality control at this price point. Just my opinion.
I was just messing around in the garage with the Yeswelder helmet. I'm wondering if this flashing thing is just people incorrectly using the sensitivity and delay incorrectly, including myself. I have more tinkering and experimenting to do with it but it's has me wondering. Also I have one of the 4 sensors that looks different from the other three. It almost looks like it is broken so I'm wondering if this is normal or if it's actually broken. Three look like they have a black cover over the sensor, possibly glass? One of mine looks silver and almost like a miniature light bulb and it's definitely not black. Interesting!?
My Yesweld, earlier version of this one, is about 3 years old. It still works ok for stick and MIG. Total crap on TIG. It's flash city on TIG..I'm done with it.
Stopped by here because watching reviews on the Miller's and Viking's.
I finely told myself "hey you only get one set of eyes" and if you can spend hundreds of dollars on a stupid iPhone.. "Dam it "get a good helmet"
Thank You for the review and info..
All The Best....
Thanks for stopping by and I wish you the best.
I have two of their helmets and welders on the helmets went not in used l leave it in the off position and by a window when it’s not being used and have had good luck with them so far
I have 2 Yeswelder helmets and both flash me. One is the battery powered 2.0 that I purchased on Amazon and actually got a replacement for because the first one flashed also, and one is the EH1002 that was a gift because my father in law didn't know I got the other one. When welding DC TIG they flash. AC is fine and doing stick welding is okay but there's something about the consistent arc of the DC Tig that messes with the sensor and they flash. I'll have to see what Yeswelder says as I'm still within the year warranty. I like the 2.0 but I'd be pretty leery of buying another one.
If your hoods are flashing you try turning the "sensitivity" all the way up. I've done that in my welding environment and it's rare that the hood will flash me. Only if I have an unusual lighting situation with my filming lights.
I recently bought the L500A helmet, for DC TIG, primary use. The concern about being flashed in this mode is concerning. Is it possible this problem has been fixed on the units now being shipped ?
Thanks for your post.
Same issue here with TIG...
I'm stepping up to a real helmet
Kobalt 127 buck big lense I production weld every day 4 years still good strong plus like 5 others at work has the same hood no problems!
Awesome!
I’ve had my $150 Miller Pro-Hobby since 2008 without a single issue. I am upgrading to a Miller Digital Elite to get the newer technology glass.
I've been doing some research on helmets since my issues and noticed a place called "Bakersgas.com" is having some nice helmets on sale right now. I've never done business with that company but they have the Miller Digital Elite on sale for $215.50 right now. There are just so many choices out there it's crazy. I can see why you like Miller - 12 years with the same helmet is a great show of reliability I think.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 That's where I got my Lincoln Viking helmet from. Great customer support. Only issue I had so far, the battery lasts only 6 months. Maybe is me using it indoors 95% of the time.
i got the LYG-800Q, with the side Windows.
I just noticed the Shade adjustment works just somethimes, and stays at the darkest shade setting.
And with TIG welding i can’t see where i’m welding.
The next Helmet will be definitely a Brand Helmet again!!
You buy cheap you buy twice or many times!!
That's a bummer, I've used 4 different YesWelder helmets for over two years now and I've had good results with all of them. I still use the one in this video after adjusting the sensitivity to it's highest setting it has cured the flashing issue. If spending 5 times more for a top brand name gives you the results you are looking for then that's what you need to do. Luckily there are many options out there for different people with different needs.
Great video man. (And your prior one) I'm a brand new welder, and I ordered this as my first helmet. I am scared of being flashed, to be honest, but I figure if I do like you did, crank the sensitivity and minimize the delay, it should reduce that risk hopefully?
I'm not worried at all about getting flashed with an auto darkening welding hood. It may not be desirable and it can make you see dots momentarily but in my opinion it does not permanently damage your eyes. Most if not all auto darkening lenses are ANSI rated. Below is the Google definition of the ANSI rating requirements for an auto darkening welding hood.
In the United States, the industry standard for welding helmets is ANSI Z87. 1+ which specifies performance of a wide variety of eye protection devices. The standard requires that auto-darkening helmets provide full protection against both UV and IR even when they are not in the darkened state.
My understanding is the IR is what can damage your eyes. Even a lot of cheap convenient store sun glasses can have considerable UV and IR protection although I wouldn't weld with them.
Yes, turning up the sensitivity makes the helmet more sensitive to light. If you are welding in a well lit area, it can help prevent flashing. This is a good welding helmet IMO. I've read many posts where guys using even expensive welding helmets can get flashed from time to time depending on the welding environment. IMO it's just a part of welding with auto darkening helmets but it shouldn't happen often. Have fun with your welding, it's a fun skill to learn and have.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 thanks for the in depth answer!
Muy bien esplicado, los protectores delanteros se dañan fácilmente amigo?? Ya me escribes cuando puedas.Gracias
very good explainer video
Thanks for stopping by!
We Have a Forklift in our Workshop, and it has a Strobe light on top for safety, and if it goes by my cubicle, and my lens sees that strobe it makes the lens flash in time with the strobe, I just wait until it goes past and I can continue welding. So watch out for strobing lights around where you are working, and shield yourself from the light.
Great tip Scott!
I have this helmet Bruce and two of the Aggressor helmets. They all flash tigging stainless or steel because of the small arc in comparison to aluminum. Yes, they sent me a replacement for free. Still flashes, bought the one you’re talking about here, it flashes also! So, tomorrow I will change battery see if it helps. I’m at the point where I will probably buy a name brand
I understand, you need one that will work for you. I’d be curious to know what you end up with and how you like it.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Ok, checked out sons Lincoln Viking helmet, it worked flawlessly on Stainless! Took it out and faced sun, it darkened immediately! I changed battery in my yeswelder and tried sun test…NOPE! Wouldn’t darken. My son tried the yeswelder helmet while I used his and he couldn’t get helmet to darken while I welded, even getting close to the work…so, it looks like a Lincoln Viking helmet might be in Santa’s bag!?
Excellent, I hope it does a good job for you! 👍 Is it a Lincoln Viking 3350?
I noticed yesterday the battery indicator was red. When I tested it it would blink. Changed the battery and it works. Not sure if that’s what you call flash.
I don’t weld alot so it’s been sitting a for months in a cart. Maybe it needs some sun.
I just read on another video that turning the helmet to grinder turns off the battery. Not sure if this is true but will try it. (That’s why I’m web surfing to learn more)
Once you replace the headgear with a quality brand like the Lincoln KP3908-1 for around $22 bucks this would be the perfect hood. It replaced my Miller elite($349) that is just getting old and has issues. I hope I can get a few years out of this Yeswelder hood.:)
I agree, it's been a great hood and I really like the True Color because I can see the details of the weld puddle. They are hard to beat for the money IMO!
I bought a Yeswelder Welding Helmet Review LYG M800H in the first month of work it started to blink and the adjustment headgear both on the back of the neck and on the sides got damaged, besides the curious fact where I didn't see the true color because in the video here and in the video on the site the weld vision is a little gray or blue as mine was crisp green and lighter, very similar to HD glass lenses. Another curious detail was that the manual that came with the helmet had illustrations of a model similar to the Yeswelder Welding Helmet Review LYG M800H, but it wasn't exactly the LYG M800H. I contacted support and they made the refund, but I still have a loss in a way because I don't know a similar helmet with the same benefits and since I live in Portugal and they don't make sales through the site here. But I'm thinking about buying another one by amazon, should I? Will I be lucky this time to buy a flawless product? I liked your comment about a higher quality headgear but would like more information does it really fit perfectly to the helmet or is some adjustment needed ?
I'll soon be at 3 years and mine started flashing. Waiting for yeswelder to get back with a recommendation.
If you do construction... Areal platform and boom trucks/cranes caution light will cause flash. My friend you said you had it happen while your garage door is open. Some turn signals from cars can make it flash as well. It is something to do with the amber texture and color
Interesting. Thank you for the information.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 I was working the other day with an older Lincoln helmet (entry level model), and had the garage door up. Kept getting flashed.
I shut the door about 1/2 way and it stopped. It was the reflection of the sun bouncing off of the edges/corners of the car parked in the driveway. I have heard that these helmets can flash (just bought one and it should arrive Sat), and this probably isn't the cure, but maybe cutting down on reflective light from other sources might minimize the issue so you don't have to have the sensitivity all the way up. That said, if you found a setting on your now "free" helmet - that's great. I'm looking forward to what will be a huge upgrade for me when I weld with it for the first time this weekend. I went ahead and bought the recommended Lincoln headstrap (EH-091XL) and am going to replace the Yes strap before using it. One less thing to deal with and it appears that is the biggest complaint about the helmet.
And thanks for the great reivew/info.
You're welcome Andy! I think you will like the helmet. I think they are great helmets for the money!
I think you are really going to like the helmet. I really like mine and I will buy another if this one breaks or stops working some day. :)
One option for future buyers: pay the extra $10 for 4 year extended protection plan. They will replace it.
Thanks for the input.
I wonder if the problems associated with DC TIG have resolved in current shipments?
Flashing is usually due to the battery going dead. Changed my battery and problem solved.
Nice!
Hi have trouble with flash on my 5.0 . It is comfortabl
Being older & of diminishing visual acuity (I.E crap eyesight for close up stuff like welding) I'm real fond of masks that give a very clear view. I.M.O - and it's only an opinion, it's not carved in stone - you'd buy a lot of far more rubbish (waay far more) than to get yourself a Zelcan welding mask.
They are, ahem, cheap.. However, I have had Speedglass masks that were crapper - a lot crapper - plus probably 20 or 30 other brand masks that were far far crapper - mainly as the Zelcan brand masks are excellent. They're as close to not wearing a mask as you can get while wearing a mask, I.M.O. The view out is superb. They are also suspiciously similar to the Yeswelder mask.. but cheaper.. A cynic might think the same factory produced them..
I used have to shine a light for every weld - however, with the Zelcan lid, I don't have to unless I'm welding in the deep dark corners - which has reduced cursing at crappy, unstable, awkward lights by about 80% in the workshop.
Hi, so after reviewing similar price range helmet, I decided to purchase an ESAB Savage E40 helmet. It looks very similar to your yesweld helmet and its a bit more 114. Maybe try that helmet instead. I just got the ESAB helmet so have not really put it thru the ringer yet. Good Luck, I hope since its name brand it will be slightly better quality.
Thanks for the info John. I am considering your recommendation.
E-40 or A40. I can't find a e-40 but there is a a40.
I think it's A40
Sorry guys, it is A40 and not E 40. Thanks for the correction!
I read that the power is getting low and if you have a solar setup then set it out in the sun for 4 hours. It should fix it. Or try new battery if you have one.
I haven't looked into this... though there is a hack for some of these sensors... where I forget exactly... though basically you take a fisheye lens over the sensor if I recall correct. If I'm remembering correctly, the tip of an LED will work basically acting like a lens that fits the hole where the sensor is located. Basically, if there are two sensors, one of the sensors requires a lens. I guess this is common with many of the helmets with the recessed sensor design. I'll see if I can find a RUclips video maybe documenting since seems someone has made a video showing how to do the repair hack.
Interesting, you may be on to something there. The sensors on my helmet are slightly recessed but they don't look too deep. That could be the issue though. Neat that someone has already come up with a hack for it. My helmet has been working good since I turned the sensitivity all the way to HI, even when welding down at 40 amps. Thanks for the info!
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Yeah, is interesting and very influential and why I remember what I'm thinking was an LED lens from a disassembled little like arduino LED. For some reason a laser pointer lens is coming to mind. I looked for about an hour or so last night and couldn't find where I read online. Might have been on the Reddit r/welding forum. Basically, just cut the bottom part of the LED off and insert. I did find an instructable and Hackaday article regarding the instructable for watching the eclipse... however, didn't see in the comments. Didn't find in my RUclips history either and that's why I'm thinking might have been on Reddit or another forum somewhere I read and saw pictures of online. I did noticed what looked like the welding helmets area was carved out on the Harbor Freight style to make more of a cone versus cylinder shape to let more light in. Guessing that will aid in performance though not as directional and focusing to the sensor focal point which would be the emitter on the diode. I'll keep in mind when and if I see online again. Thanks for sharing! Great videos!
Having browsed all the comments on this helmet, as I'm waiting for mine to arrive from EBAY, I think in time I could probably get the same problems too.
I'm just starting to do welding again as a hobby and having bought a cold welder, which gives me DC tig as well, I've found that my old ....2 year old......auto dark helmet is still too dark when it's clear, so I've made an LED spot light, from a patio 6 watt 6 LED spot light, that runs on 12 volts from a cordless drill battery, and sits on the bench next to the job to illuminate the weld pool and view the work piece during the lens off time in order to line up the tungsten before the lens darkens......hopefully the new helmet with true colour/clearview lens will solve the problem without having to use the spotlight.
Now if someone with inside knowledge could ascertain the exact model of the actual auto true colour clear view dark lens mechanism, having a problem would be just to replace it for next to nothing......I hear $20 for just the lens is the going price......wow, I'll have a dozen.
If anyone has the Miller classic series, is there any better headgear that fits, and does the new headgear by Miller fit all Miller helmets
Thanks for the video as always!
I went ahead and got the Q800 model (similar, but has side windows), and love it BUT have a hard time keeping it raised up. The side knobs just don't tighten enough (don't want to break them). So, I'm guessing yours is the same in that respect. Is there a hack you may have discovered to keeping it from slipping down when you want it raised up between welds?
I do have that same issue. Unfortunately I don't have a hack or solution at this time. If I do happen to come up with something I'll make a video for you.
Some have said that they replaced the stock headgear with "Lincoln" headgear and they claim it's real nice but I haven't tried it.
In the mean time, if you come up with a hack I'd love to hear about it so I can pass it on to others.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Thanks! I am staying with this super comfortable and well made headgear. In fact, I ordered an extra headgear - just 10 bucks shipped - when I ordered the YW Q800D helmet. I'm thinking of just adding a paper-thin fiber washer of somekind under each knob..
The YesWelder headgear is super comfortable and you can't beat the $10 shipped. Let me know if the fiber washer helps, sounds like a good idea.
do u have the flashing issue so far?
Hello. About the blinking issue of those helmet.I have been with the same issue once. with some helmets. Not same model or brand. I discovered that the issue was not the helmet but i pointed the what was guilty. it was the cfl lights in my lab. in some circumstances, wgen the door was open and the helmet got sunlight on the sensors it started to see the long old type cfl tube ( neon) flickering as if i was welding, and it started flickering. That happend with 2 different brands. if it can help. Have a nice day.
Thank you for the information. Since I made this video I have discovered that my filming lights have some effect on how my welding hoods act at times. I’m still using this same hood and it’s been doing well.
ive used 2 of the m800 and one looks true vision or whatever, but the other still has a greenish tint while welding. Anyone know why that is?
DIYHP, thank you for the two videos on the Yeswelder LYG M800H helmet! I'm a rookie welder - 40 years after stick welding classes in jr high, now, armed with a Hobart MiG welder (& no MiG skills). I'm in need of a welding helmet and this model looks like a decent helmet for my needs. I have three questions, if I could - did you find that it was your filming lighting that was partially or fully the problem with the flashing you were experiencing? Would you buy this same model now after three years? Is there another model you'd recommend over the LYG M800H?
Thanks so much for your kind help and advice!
You are quite welcome. I have not been able to pin point the actual problem I had with this hood. I did determine that the hood works much better with the "flashing" issue if the sensitivity is turned all the way up. I have also determined that I have only had the flashing issue when TIG welding at low amperage (100 amps or less). I have not had any issues with flashing when stick or MIG welding with this hood. Yes, I would buy this hood again, I believe it is a pretty good hood for the money. If you are using it with MIG or MMA you may not ever experience an issue like I have. Since I made those videos I have used several YW welding hood models and I would recommend any of them. They may not be perfect but I feel they are a good value for the money. I really like the YW "True Color" screens that are used in all the YW welding hoods. I wish you the best with your welding ventures and thanks for stopping by!
Thank you sir, for your comments! Ill give the YW helmets one more look over before i select one - though I expect it will be this model!
Keep up the great wirk on your channel!
Bought the same Yeswelder helmet in Sept 2019. Started arc flashing me last few months but I decided to just buy a better helmet. Got an Optrel Crystal 2.0. Crazy expensive but the quality difference is certainly justifiable. I had issues with the Yeswelder darkening from my shop LED lights which made setups a hassle. Also issues outside when it would always stay dark when in sunlight but fine in shade. No issue at all with the Optrel. Eyes are important and we don't get another pair so moving beyond the cheaper chinese products was necessary for me. Before the Yeswelder, I bought an Antra helmet in 2015, another chinese made from Amazon and it too was odd at times.
I'm happy for you getting an Optrel! I've never owned one but I'll bet they are nice! Since I made this video, I'm getting several people that are reporting they've had problems with this helmet. That's a bummer because I really like it other than the flashing. Now I'm more confused about what to buy next. I'll think on it for a while and maybe something will jump out at me. Ha Ha Good luck to you and thanks for the comment and info.
I'm looking for a helmet to replace my harbor freight hood. I bought that one way back when I got my first everlast welder. There isn't much more important than protecting your eyes and I should have replaced my hood long ago.
I'm happy with this Yeswelder helmet. I have set the sensitivity control to the high position and it's been working fine. Yeswelder is running a end of year sale. Everything on the website is 15% off. If you are interested in a yeswelder helmet I'll put a link to the website below for you. If you decide to buy one use "YESWELDER15" as your coupon code and you'll get 15% OFF the price. I think that's about the best deal going that I'm aware of.
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This is the helmet I have - yeswelder.com/products/auto-darkening-welding-helmet-m800hp?ref=DIY%20Homestead%20Projects%20k_v1e2l-azd
Good luck to you and your search for a new helmet.
This Yeswelder Helmet is a massive upgrade over the harbor freight helmet. You’ll actually be able to see.
Just opened the box of a new Yeswelder bought thru amazon. The helmet is a LYG-M800D model. I opened the manual and leafed through it. My first impression was that it was an example of a totally inadequate user manual for equipment of this type. My first problem was how to install the battery. Normally this would be in the beginning of the manual in a "getting started" section. The only reference to installing the battery is at the end of the manual which shows an illustration of where the battery is located and shows sliding off a piece which exposes a battery compartment. When I look into the mask I find that area, but there is no where visible this sliding piece. So I am stuck right from the gitgo. I've written an email to Yeswelder today and am waiting a response. It wouldn't take much to produce a manual which is much better than the one I found in the box of my helmet. Shouldn't have to contact the company to find out how to install the battery.
Sorry to hear you are having problems with installing a battery in your helmet. My LYG-M800D came with the battery installed and a spare battery in a package. A manual was not necessary to change or install a battery in my helmet. It is as simple as pulling off the battery door, inserting a battery and replacing the door. Hopefully they can help you out so you can get to welding.
Some of the intermittent flashing with these types of welding masks are poor cleaning of the metal to be welded, the whiter spatter glow doesn't make the mask respond as good as that clean arc seen with a clean surface
Thanks for the info! The helmet has been working good with the sensitivity on hi. Maybe that's why.
I have a hood of the same brand yes welder I'm struggling it doesn't charge the battery
I have a easywood helmet and I have been getting flashed on this 9300
Speaking of flashing, I have a Ironton helmet like Northern Tools sells and it is probably 5 or 6 years old and now it is flashing. I assumed it is the battery's but it is such a cheap helmet you cannot change them. So here I am looking for a new helmet and I found the Yeswelders. And now I see they have the same issue. Now I am scared to buy one especially off of Ebay. Be nice if Yeswelder would tell us if they have fixed the later models.
If you buy a YesWelder off Amazon or the YesWelder web site and have problems with it, YesWelder will take care of you. If you want to order one directly from the YesWelder web site and use the code DIYHP10% at checkout you will get a 10% discount on everything you order.
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@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Thanks for the coupon. I ordered one from their website, and good that they accept Paypal too.
You are welcome ncmach1! I hope you enjoy the helmet and Happy Welding! Thanks for the support I appreciate it! :)
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Well I received my helmet yesterday and today I got it out of the box and pointed it towards the sun and immediately it went to flickering. Messed with the settings, thought I had it. But nope. Not happy with the blast of raw sun in my eyes. Will be sending it back for a refund and go to another brand.
@@MastersFarms Yea I tore into my Ironton and got to the batteries but its not worth it. I accidently destroyed one of the arc sensors thinking it was a plastic rivet. Had I not ruined that sensor I would replace the batteries. Now the Yeswelder does the same flickering. Its going back.
Even if the battery checks ok with a volt meter, it may fall flat under load. If you haven’t tried a new battery, might be worth a shot.
That's a good point Jeff. I did try a new battery but no difference. Since then I've determined the lighting I use in my shop for filming has an affect on the sensitivity adjustment of the welding helmet. If I turn the sensitivity all the way to HI it seems to work much better than any lower setting. The best I can determine is it's when I have the photo lights turned on.
Glad to hear you found a resolution!
I use a different, more expensive brand, and i was getting flashed until i replaced the batteries (2). try replacing them with good quality batteries.
I've owned this helmet for a little over 3 months now, and I've had the timing issue that you had and my helmet just stopped working today it had been flashing me all day and now it just stopped working and I just tried to replace the battery but that did nothing, do you think I should just buy a new helmet?
Sorry to hear your having issues with your helmet. If you have only had it just over 3 months, I would contact YesWelder. Their welding helmets have a 1 year warranty. Just make sure you give them your order # and the place you purchased it. You'll most likely have an answer the next day on what they will do to resolve the issue..
LYG-M800H-VK or SPARTUS 301X? Response time(bright to dark):
im a beginner and bought the helmet that has only one knob out on the (L) side . Do you know if that model is suseptible to the flashing issue?
I havent welded yet w/ the yeswelder three way 205 I got but I can post what I find on the helmet . Thanks for posting that !
I really don't know what helmets are susceptible to flashing to be honest. Over the past few days I have been doing a lot of tinkering with my helmet and I have come to the conclusion that my flashing issues have been because of my poor understanding of the sensitivity control and the lighting in my garage. I use additional lights for filming where I weld and that has required my sensitivity to be in the most sensitive setting. Since I have set my helmet to the most sensitive setting, I have had zero flashing issues. My theory is this particular helmet is popular with new welders such as myself. I'm thinking the flashing issue is more of an incorrect adjustment of the helmet settings rather than a malfunctioning issue with the helmet. I can't prove this of course, it's just my theory. For my situation the helmet has been performing perfectly with the sensitivity set to the highest setting. I would suppose that if your helmet does not have a sensitivity setting you probably won't have this issue. I would be curious if you do have any issues. Sorry for the long winded response but I hope it helps you out.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 My helmet is the "Q800D" because Don did such a bang up job on youtube and it has the side view widows and/but is about 25 $ more than yours .But yours is looking like the same cousin or brother to mine .Im a little envious that yours has the controls on the outside so that when I want to cut/grind you can reach it . Mine however has most of those controls on the inside and the grind switch looks a little cheezy and looks like more work to tip/take off helmet to manage controls .BUT you said you had bad news and good news and the bad news alarmed me . They even refunded you so I was concerned you have a reasl flashing issue . But I guess I can be happier that you had a info issue on that sensitivity setting
Hopefully you won't have any issues and you'll enjoy your helmet. If you get flashed, turn up the sensitivity and don't be afraid to turn it all the way to the highest sensitivity. My guess is most if not all welding helmet darkening units are probably made in the same factory in china. That's just a guess and I really don't know for sure.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 This helmet ROCKS as I used it for the 1st time today :-)
My freind welded as I watched w/ the new helmet and I could see pretty comfortably
Awesome! 👍
Been researching helmet. Bought a cheap Toolium that has 4.5 review score on Amazons. The helmet feels like $(*@. This Yeswelder seems like good value but the flashing is an obvious concern. Any other helmets you have considered buying or is this Yeswelder still your top pick in this price range?
This YesWelder is still easily my top pick in this price range. I'm going to be doing some reviewing and testing of a couple more YesWelder helmets in the near future so I might like them better but time will tell. The YesWelder 1 year warranty worked out well and they took care of me with the flashing issue. This helmet is still my main welding hood today. I'm curious how the other two helmets are going to perform in comparison. It's just hard to beat the YesWelder helmets for the price and 1 year warranty. IMO
ESAB A40 Savage auto darkening. It has not a single negative review that I can find anywhere.
When you say FLASH, do you mean that the autodarkening feature fails when you strike an arc, or it just autodarkens randomly? I'm asking because I am a welder and have had the autodarken not react fast enough at times. BUT NOW, I've had the lenses in both my eyes replaced (due to cataracts) and concerned whether the acrylic lens material in my eyes can tolerate the occassional flash. The eye lenses do have a UV inhibitor, but for UV-A, B, and C? Who knows. My helmet is Yeswelder LYG-Q800D true color with the side windows but out of warranty. I wonder if I should wear some amber glasses behind the mask as well. Bottom line, surely don't want to make my new "bionic" lenses turn cloudy yellow.
Thanks for the video!
Yes, the auto-darkening feature will sometimes lighten then go dark again. It seems to happen only during certain lighting situations. I'm thinking it's because of some of the filming lights I use when making videios in the shop. I did turn up the sensitivity all the way on this hood and it seems to work much better. I still use this welding hood. The only time I've experienced the flashing is during low amperage TIG welds. Never had it happen during MIG or Stick welding.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Yeah same here. I WILL turn it up. In my observations, it has been most frequent in arc welding, regardless of amp setting (maybe 1 out of 20 strikes - kind of a lot!), and regarding lighting, it goes dark (opposite issue 🤩) if I even briefly glance toward any LED light. Anyway, will go to the Max. Thanks!
So you can use this for tig,mig,stick,flux cord?
Yes you can.
I just recently bought a new helmet off of Amazon and it’s a YesWelder helmet but it’s an LYG-17800F model and I’ve been getting flashed.
Try turning the sensitivity to HI, that has worked for me.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 I tried doing that I even tried changing out the battery it still didn’t work unfortunately. Just gonna have to get a refund.
Yup, I think that's what I would do too. My experience with YesWelder is they are pretty good about giving you a refund if the product is defective.
Mine was bad out of the box keeps falling down cant tighten it up
Hi, I had the same problem and it ended up being the battery.
Good info, thanks Jose.
I had the same issue with flashing and it was the battery as well.
What kind of welding jacket is hanging behind you? It looks lightweight and not too bulky
I purchased my welding jacket off Amazon and I really like it. I've been using it for about 3 years now. Here is a link to the one I purchased.
amzn.to/3UJ5sqd
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 thanks man! Great price👍
I bought the same helmet off your link, and so far, no issue. However, that makes me nervous as I already have cataracts forming because in my early days I always used the old "jerk your head to flop the helmet in place," type of helmet, (they didn't have the darkening type back then,) and I'd get flashed, which my Ophthalmologist says is the probable reason I've developed them at a rather younger age. Did you try a new battery, (I'm assuming you did,) but I'm wondering if the supplied battery from Yeswelder may have not been as robust as a more name brand, and possibly the voltage isn't enough to keep the darkening feature engaged.
I just hope you don't have any issues with your helmet!!! If I were you, if you have even one flash, I think I would contact Amazon or Yeswelder and request a refund. I'm just hoping you don't have any problems like I did.
I didn't try a new battery but maybe I should. The battery that is in the helmet is working fine when I hit the TEST button and it's not showing that the battery needs replaced. That is just about the only item that I haven't tried but maybe I should. Thanks for bringing that to my attention!
I was just tinkering with my helmet in the garage and now I'm thinking that the sensitivity knob may be the key. I'm now wondering if it's just new guys like myself that just don't know exactly how to adjust the settings. I'm also thinking that lighting in the area you are welding has some affect on the sensitivity settings as well. I use additional lighting where I weld most of the time because I'm filming most of the time I'm welding. My sensitivity knob seems to be very sensitive and usually needs to be set on high sensitivity to eliminate the flashing. I have a lot more tinkering to do to really learn how to set this helmet correctly for my lighting conditions but I'm thinking it may not be an issue with the helmet but more of an issue of the settings I'm using or not using.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 That's good to know, & makes sense. Keep us informed!!
I definitely will.
What do you mean by "Flashed"?
The auto darkening feature will momentarily (fraction of a second) lighten and then darken again. It's like looking at the arc through the welding hood with it turned off and is only just a fraction of a second or so. The lens does provide UV and IR protection even when not powered up but it can make you see spots for a minute or two after the flash.
I have since learned that turning the "sensitivity" setting all the way up can eliminate the flash. The correct setting for the sensitivity can vary depending on the lighting in your work environment.
It's taken me quite a while to figure this out but the video lights I use for filming had a significant affect on this setting.
I'm still using this same welding hood today after figuring this out. It's been a good welding hood for the money IMO.
My issue with my yes welder is, when I’m not welding It darkens And doesn’t Un-darken, I have to change the Setting to “Grind” so idk why that’s happening
It sounds like your sensitivity setting is set a tad too high.
Mine does the same thing. I’ve found it’s caused by my overhead light reflecting off of my welding table. I dialed it back to slightly under 10 since I’m mostly doing 22-16 gauge. Seems to work better now. It’s night and day better than the Harbor Freight $59 helmet. I can’t see anything out that thing most of the time.
I agree Chris, the HF helmet or any "green screen" hood is no match for the YesWelder "True Color" screen as far as clarity and visibility of the weld pool.
About the flashing, had anyone try changing the battery.
I did check the battery and it is good. I've found the problem to be the adjustment on the sensitivity. In my shop with the lighting I have it requires that I turn the sensitivity up to the highest setting. That seems to have done the trick to prevent the flashing so far.
Umber one for me , didn’t work
My $45 helmet failed. I have two other cheap helmets as back up.
The real lesson: don’t toss out your old helmets.
im pritty sure you can get replcement optics on ebay. been looking at them all day.
They call them filters
Did you get the battery changed?
I did check to make sure the battery was good.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 then I'm in agreement if you're buying these on promotion it's a steal even if you get a couple bad ones here and there 👍
That's a good point you make. A person could buy three of these helmets for the price of some other helmets. Also the YesWelder one year warranty worked out well in my case.
Mine is only about a month old and I’m getting flashed occasionally. Honestly, I’m not sure it’s fixable. It typically happens when I have a light close by and have my head at certain angles. Pretty sure it’s the sensors. That said, I like it, but I’m also working on a good sob story to the wife so I get get a Miller or Lincoln 😂 Without a doubt though, it’s a billion times better than the Harbor Freight, over priced helmet they sell for $59. That one is like trying to see through a black bag some terrorist put over your head while being kidnapped!
Sorry to hear yours is starting to flash Chris. It may help if you turn the sensitivity all the way up to hi. If that doesn't help, remember you have a 1 year warranty. Just contact YesWelder on their web site and they'll most likely send you a new one or refund your money. Either way I think it's a great welding helmet for the money. Like you said, the true color is amazing for seeing the weld pool.
Do you hope the more costly brand name will solve your problem. ? Some say there is not many manufacturers of the lens modules
@@stevecarlisle3323 I've got a Miller Elite (an older one not marketed as the "Digital" Elite. I've used it for 10 years now and have never been flashed. I don't even own a backup helmet because I've never needed one. If you spend the money, you'll only cry once.
Sensitivity maxed out delay 0
Yes, I've been using sensitivity maxed out and delay about half way through the range with success. I think the sensitivity maxed is the key. Thanks for the tip!
archelmets.com/esab-savage-a40-welding-helmet-review/
here is the review link for ESAB E40
Thank you for the link on the ESAB E40. I may consider that one. I'll have to do some research and decide what to do next.
Im jumping thru hoops trying to get a refund from yes welder, 4 emails stating they were going to refund me,then " oh we need pics" ok,no problem,,then nothing. Still waiting. Emails stating we are sorry for the problems, we are trying,yes trying,wtf, to process my refund. Not too happy at all with company. Never again,buyer beware!
Sorry to hear that, completely the opposite of the experience I encountered.
Update, refund is being processed!
Good to hear 👍
Performance of lot of the more professional looking chinese masks is unfortunately lacking.
You end up getting flashed and in some cases slow response that you may not notice can make your eyes ache or feel bit tired and can be doing serious long term damage .
If you do your research you will see same large panels (exact same) in off brand or unbranded chinese helmets for 35 to 45 bucks .
Other common issue with chinese products is piss poor plastic, lack of quality chemicals and material grade means it wears/breaks easily and plastic becomes fragile in rather short time . Any safety classification is also likely be false with no real testing and certification being done.
One of best easy weld improvements a diy guy can make is buying a decent helmet and if want auto darkening you need be willing spend 3 or 4 times the chinese price.
Your eyes are worth the insurance, your work is worth the improvement and you save money save time save frustration and use less grinding disks lol ...
I've used cheap and expensive and difference is night and day, I not big advocator of top brands but I also don't like seeing people waste money and these chinese auto darkening masks are a money, time/frustration and safety cognation that best avoided .
The solution is buy a better product and don't rely on fancy looking chinese garbage off the usual online shopping channels . You eyes and time are worth a lot more than 70 bucks ...
Everyone will have an opinion based on their own experiences. Personally I've been using cheap auto darkening welding helmets for years since I started with the cheapest Harbor Freight welding hood. I've been completely satisfied with the performance and results. I hear people all the time saying "you're eyes are worth more than a cheap welding hood" and I do agree with that statement. Many people don't realize that an auto darkening welding lens will protect your eyes from harmful radiation and UV even if it fails to darken. Sure if it doesn't darken you will get flashed and see spots for a short period of time and if done repeatedly I suppose it can cause eye problems. I don't know anyone that would continue to use a hood if the lens fails to darken. I would think it would be going back for a refund. My personal experience and research over the years tells me there is no logical reason to spend 4 to 5 times the money for a descent welding hood when a low cost hood will suit most hobby or occasional welders needs just fine. Some people can't get past the "brand names" and think that the price is a direct reflection of quality. I disagree with that thought based on my own experiences with budget welding hoods I've used. Believe me, I would prefer to have a good affordable welding hood made in the USA but they don't exist. The two top brands I can think of (Red and Blue) don't sell USA made hoods. They actually come from India, Korea or Thailand. Some may claim "made in the USA" but the reality is none of them are. The "made in the USA" stamp on products has lost it's creditability and no longer holds any weight. It can be stamped on a product that isn't made in the USA. Thanks for sharing your viewpoint, we all have one based on our own experiences.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10
your welcome, none of my comments are meant as a dig in any way .
Some budget auto helmets can be fairly good but unfortunately the online market is full mainly of garbage via usual online shopping channels, I work in the manufacture industry and spend some time in asia and very accustom to the welding equipment as work with several companies that produce components .
One of your biggest issues is any western safety classification is likely false so radiation uv and all other lens requirements and mask protection from splatter etc are hit and miss on how well they really perform
Biggest issue on these auto darkening lenses pushed through amazon ebay banggood alibaba and so forth is reaction time falls short of the half millisecond mark it should be and arc sensors/circuit control doesn't work consistently, you will not immediately know a poor reaction time but if welding for longer periods eyes can become tired and achy .
As you already found out durability of plastics are poor as quality reinforced plastics and chemical stabilisers cost more and are not used.
I don't see how you think it good value or a good product when head gear failed in first few months of minimal home use and main lens suspect in arc reaction function in well under a year . The large view lens used in yeswelder is same unit as used in most other current large view helmets from usual online scumbags and the online feedback and real world results from light home use speaks for itself .
People need learn more and try more range of products before concluding what good in functionality and value, you don't need spend five times the price but be willing spend a bit more and test or get advise from welders and welding merchants ...
Having used lenses from both ends of the spectrum I know the difference & know choose wisely at lower end and realize high end lens design pushed at minimal cost is a gamble at best .
Cheap helmets will flash you every time
I don't get flashed every time with mine.
"I don't blame YesWelder for it". "I could buy six of these for the price of others"(hope your eyes survive the first five). Absolute garbage! I've done nothing but monkey around with mine for weeks (yes, they replaced it with another piece of garbage) and it still is completely unreliable. It hates LED lights so you have to weld in a dark room or the thing flips-out and flashes. The tighteners on the sides lasted two weeks and stripped. Finally gave up and requested a refund. Now I'll shop for a REAL helmet and maybe actually do some welding. YesWelder- No thanks!
That's too bad. I've been using YesWelder welding hoods for just over two years now and I am amazed by the True Color screen. They aren't perfect but IMO they are a good value for the price they are asking. I have several different models and I like them all. Hopefully you can find a hood that will work for you.