Nice results! I find my Staccatos are ever so slightly wider than my other, similar capacity polymer/striker pistols. It wasn't as noticeable downrange when I could really dial them in w/an rds. But w/irons, my windage was always slightly off. 👍👍
The Tisas seems like it's accurate enough. Just a suggestion but a .005" shim under the back of the Holosun should allow you to zero the sight. Other than having the slide milled to lower the front of the red dot, a shim is about the only answer if zero is to be achieved.
This pistol really interests me. I have 2 staccatos. They are some of the most accurate pistols I have. They are also the most accurate ones I've used in 25 years of LE in stress courses. I recently got a tisas night stalker in 45 and it seems to be an accurate pistol as well. It seems to be better put together than my old colt gold cup.
Another great informative video, thank you! I just got a Tisas duty .45. My intention was to use it primarily as a host for my 22 conversion for bullseye. Now that I've shot it, I'm not sure I'm going to do that, as it is such a nice 1911 for the price. It's tight, accurate, well finished, and the softest shooting 45acp 1911 I have ever fired. Thoroughly impressed.
Maybe it's not a fan of the heavier bullets. I would also look into Tactical Firearms Academy 5/25 yard zero target to get a better feel of the trigger to focus on a tighter group and then reassess at 25 yards. Thanks for the vid. The target is free on their site.
I'm glad your still working with the Tisas DS carry, I pick mine up next week, and I like the Holosun 507 series, so I'll be waiting for your next segment on this gun. Thanks for staying with it.
Great vid as always! I hope to see a video with another sight to find if it was the Holoson was off or if the pistol was milled off a bit! Thanks for the vids!
"Better than OK?" by what I saw you shoot that pistol like a pro. I wish I could shoot a tack without being a foot away just to see it much less hit it. Great video again! Keep up the great work my friend.
Great follow up review devil-dog. You and I both know what the problem is. If it had a bigger hole in the end of that barrel as in .45 you would be killing it. Just kidding you did better than I would have. I am still trying to adjust myself to these reflex and red dot type sights.
Thank you! I'm coming to the conclusion that the red-dot sights will never be as fast as iron sights, but for those of us with aging eyes, the trade off is we can achieve the level of accuracy we are accustomed to without the need for glasses or contacts. Regarding this specific pistol, I think I just need to spend more time with it.
Thank you for producing another great video. If you are not use to using a red dot, there is a learning curve that one can master after firing roughly a box of ammo. That learning curve is to focus on the target while you are presenting the pistol. I found it easier to build that into muscle memory by doing dry fire drills at home by taping a paper target and then a USPSA target to a wall and running the drill for 10 to 15 minutes a day. Please let us know how it went at the LE Training course. Hope you have a great time.
Very cool. Mine is a Fulton Armory FAR15 A1. It's pretty much a dead ringer for the rifle I was issued when I was in the Marine Corps. I still love the classic lines of the original M16.
@@hrfunk You're right, it IS a dead ringer for the Colt, right down to the 4x sight. Thanks for the great content!!! It's much appreciated and enjoyed.
Is There Looseness In The Barrel Bushing and Barrel /Slide Locking Lugs HrFunk I Know Your a Great Shot So I Know It’s Not You But That 2 Feet Low at 25 Yards Has To Be The Pistol 😩
I was able to adjust the sight to where it's now 2" +/- low at 25 yards. The barrel/bushing fit seems good. I'm thinking about giving SDS a call to see what they might have to say.
Now I am wondering where the problem is. Is the dot in some way defective or the machining on the slide inaccurate? But I feel certain you will resolve this question with time and experimentation.
The sight is intended for micro-pistols, so I don't think it has the adjustment range of the larger versions. Even so, the slide-cut probably needs to be deeper.
I just started watching your 507k review. In the first part of the video, watching the close up of the pistol with optic mounted, it looks like you have a canted optic cut. The top of the serations on the slide appear to come closer to the optic cut at the rear versus the front. I would see if a canted plate helps or contact Tisas. Good that it's a loner test pistol. May just be an optical illusion
@@hrfunk good to hear, I'm really interested in this pistol. I've been rethinking a manual safety, hammer fired pistol for carry, and this seems like a great option. Of course a more expensive option will probably be more refined, possibly better sprung. For my first 9mm double stack in not sure if I'll see a difference and I'll probably really enjoy it.
Ok I'm somewhat relieved. I bought this pistol for a budget friendly 2011 that maybe could fill a home defense and carry role. If I can get similar results I feel like it will do fine in those roles. I admit, the tack shot had me sweating 😂
If I remember correctly direct mounted slide cuts are supposed to have about a degree of downward angle milled into the slide. I would imagine your pistol has the slide milled parallel. I could be wrong on that but I'm pretty sure that's correct and would explain your problems
Is the optic mounted to a plate or direct mount? If it was me, I’d put a piece of aluminum foil under the plate, optic but only at the rear of it. I’d also use fingernail polish on the screws and not torque them down all the way. Snug but not enough to make it bend because of my “shim” of aluminum foil. Seeing this is going back, I’d not want to break the base of the optic by tightening it too tight. Since it’s a “temporary system", this would be a temporary fix FOR TESTING ONLY. (Don’t want to get flamed on by someone thinking I’m espousing a duty solution.) I don’t remember what kind of trigger this has. Long or short? Too much trigger finger or not enough? I know that Hickok 45 has issues with small guns and shooting left. He claims it is because of trigger finger placement. You don’t have gorilla hands like he does so, that may not be the problem for you. Another thing you’ve taken out of the equation is those old eyes of yours and interfacing with iron sights….😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Good morning HR. Vortex makes a slanted plate for coarse elevation adjustments. I don't know if it matches the Holosun footprint. The match ammo sounds like a hotter load. Where's the muzzle flash in the thumbnail?😂 Do your jacket epaulettes snag on the seat belt? I have a bush jacket that does that. Good shooting at the training class.
Yes, a canted plate would probably help. It would act like a 20 moa scope base on a rifle. You would have to count the available elevation clicks in the optic. if you have all the box stated adjustment in the optic, the optic cut in the slide may not have been milled properly, or the optic may not have been machined properly. You might be able to do some measuring with a good set of calipers, but I'm not sure. I would field strip the slide and remove the optic. Then, measure from the bottom of the slide to the optic cut where the optic sits on both the fore and aft of the optic cut, then compare. You might see variation? Seems like something is canted.
I'm not an expert by any means, but I've never had a double-stack 1911 that I've been comfortable with. I guess I'm a purist, as I'm way more comfortable (not to mention more accurate) with a single stack 1911. :)
I guess my only question is, would you trust your life to it? I have a couple of the Tisas 1911's in 9mm and .45. I carry and trust them. I really like the 2011 and it will probably be my next purchase. As always Thanks for the video!
Frankly, and not looking at other comments first, I think you're trying too hard to shoot this pistol. I'm not a good enough shot to think to hold high or left or whatever. I'm too stuck on that "center mass" that the instructor was screaming about. I developed The Glock Flinch and never overcame it, but retired and stopped carrying the issue Glock. I pick up the trusty 1911 and it's like shaking hands with an old friend. Same with a S&W K-frame. But I do enjoy watching you shoot and your methodology in diagnosing issues.
Do we all have a gun we feel we can't shoot? I just can't shoot the m9A3 I put that rubber grip thing on it that came with it and it's a very wide grip but I like the texture. A lot of shots to the left even in sa. Maybe I got a lemon ha! This sights can't be adjusted just by turning a screw.
The basics of marksmanship are always the same. It’s just a matter of training. Even so, there will probably always be certain firearms that we shoot better than others.
HI, Howard... been a while. Just a couple of thoughts on this pistol... First, is there any way you could perhaps shim the rear of that HoloSun slightly to make up that elevation deficiency? And second, I wonder if the discomfort you are feeling (and seeming inaccuracy you are experiencing) is perhaps just the slightly odd grip shape of the 2011 style pistols on the whole? I personally have fairly small hands (I wear a size 8 glove) which is why I love the 1911 so much, but I always found when I tried out any of the 2011 guns, they just didn't FEEL right. I always felt I would rather sacrifice capacity and trust my proficiency with a 10-round 9mm 1911 (or even better, a 9-round 10mm!) than give up the precision I tend to lose when switching to the 2011 design. I have a bit of a hunch you and I may agree on this, being revolver guys as well... when the SHTF, I'd rather put a small number of rounds where I want them than spray a crapload of ammo all over the place.
Hi Dale, I'm glad to hear from you. I hope all is well. Several people have mentioned that shim idea. My only concern is that the shim will raise the sight and potentially exacerbate the issue. I've got another remedy in mind, so stay tuned and I'll see if I can rectify the problem. Regarding the "feel" of the 2011 pistols, I think you're right. Along with the grip characteristics, I think the recoil impulse also throws me off a bit. The Tisas DS is very soft shooting for a 1911 style pistol. Normally, less recoil would be a good thing, but in this instance I believe it's throwing off the timing of my follow-up shots. I've run into this issue previously with other handguns. After years of shooting various pistols, I think I've come to expect the muzzle (and sights) to be in a certain position post-recoil. With the Carry DS, the light recoil doesn't return the muzzle to the position I'm expecting. The net result is that it throws off my timing and causes me to feel a bit discombobulated. That probably sounds odd, but I think it's true.
I Believe you're so accustomed to 1911s it's just grip circumference especially up high beavertail area & trigger reach/hand squeeze. I handled one and MAC version last week just take some getting used to. My first shots w PIMPED PT92 I was pulling low right I think similar issue. With Two-Tone RP63 shot a .94 6 shot group in DA 7 yards w House of Payne .38 all touching on spine....but faster 125 grain Magnums were pulling left...I'm still not sure if just me or if a barrel can be on w way slower 38s but sling off faster 357s a few inches? If anyone has thoughts on that let me know please I know it's usually the Shooter but I didn't notice w two types of 158 magnums just my 125 magnums....
@@johnherr3579 Something like this has me wondering I don't know enough to know...may have to test more...could be the shooter jerking,but 158s recoil more to me so I don't think so...perhaps just that particular load idk
Different bullet weight, different velocity, different recoil impulse. The idea that the bullets will strike a different point is not surprising to me.
Placed a RD on my Sig m18 with absolutely no luck at all! Could not reliably find the dot on the draw. Put one on my G19 gen5 mos with a lot more ability to draw and find the dot. I'm getting better, but... Still working on it and my jury is still out!!!!
@@d7dun1010 I don't know if you saw this one, but maybe there's something in it you'll find usefull: ruclips.net/video/-2JTcC7Qd4s/видео.htmlsi=vtiJKTbQpHHqbtti
I recently purchased the Tisas BR9 DS. I am having same issue with point of impact being low. Shooting from 15 yds, I was low while aiming to center. Is Tisas acknowledging this?
I was thinking about getting one of these pistols myself, I have a question about it though. Does it use the same type of holster as other 1911 patterns?
No. The rail and the square trigger guard don't play well with holsters intended for a standard (or even a railed) 1911. Staccato holsters should work well.
Ha, ha! No, I got a call from someone in charge of a training facility. He’s a viewer, and he wanted to invite me to attend the session. It’s an LE-only course, but he said I could attend if I wanted to, even though I’m retired. I thought, what the heck, I can never have too much training!
It seems to me that when you concentrate and go slow enough you do we with the pistol. Something with this pistol does not agree with you. I feel that you can master this pistol but is it worth the effort?
FOR ME..... I don't even own a 9mm handgun at this point.... have about everything else LOL.... But again... for me? 9mm has never been a stellar performer accuracy wise.... For me... commander length 1911's have never shot well. For me.... optics don't work. I can't even find the dot in the dozen or so I have tried. for me.... those glow plug sights are useless.....Full size 1911 in 45 acp in the Government style and even an arched mainspring housing... but I can live without the last. My cast and coated (HT) 200 grain SWC of the old long nose version at about 1000 fps will give me honest 1-2" groups from a rest at 25 yards. This is my standard for semi autos.
Excellent presentation! I've missed these demonstrations while traveling and came back to a 1911 - perfect in my world
Nice results! I find my Staccatos are ever so slightly wider than my other, similar capacity polymer/striker pistols. It wasn't as noticeable downrange when I could really dial them in w/an rds. But w/irons, my windage was always slightly off. 👍👍
The Tisas seems like it's accurate enough. Just a suggestion but a .005" shim under the back of the Holosun should allow you to zero the sight. Other than having the slide milled to lower the front of the red dot, a shim is about the only answer if zero is to be achieved.
Good morning, HRFUNK and family. ☕️🇺🇸 happy Saturday to everyone there. Another nice setup. 👌.
Thanks James!
It's the ghost of 1911s past warning you to stick with 45 chamberings.
This pistol really interests me. I have 2 staccatos. They are some of the most accurate pistols I have. They are also the most accurate ones I've used in 25 years of LE in stress courses.
I recently got a tisas night stalker in 45 and it seems to be an accurate pistol as well. It seems to be better put together than my old colt gold cup.
Another great informative video, thank you! I just got a Tisas duty .45. My intention was to use it primarily as a host for my 22 conversion for bullseye. Now that I've shot it, I'm not sure I'm going to do that, as it is such a nice 1911 for the price. It's tight, accurate, well finished, and the softest shooting 45acp 1911 I have ever fired. Thoroughly impressed.
Welcome to the club!
Maybe it's not a fan of the heavier bullets. I would also look into Tactical Firearms Academy 5/25 yard zero target to get a better feel of the trigger to focus on a tighter group and then reassess at 25 yards. Thanks for the vid. The target is free on their site.
I'm glad your still working with the Tisas DS carry, I pick mine up next week, and I like the Holosun 507 series, so I'll be waiting for your next segment on this gun. Thanks for staying with it.
Thanks John. Stay tuned!
👍👍Thanks HR your reviews and shooting videos are always top notch. I’ve learned a lot from watching your channel.
Thank you! I'm so happy the videos are helpful.
Thanks HR
Great vid as always! I hope to see a video with another sight to find if it was the Holoson was off or if the pistol was milled off a bit! Thanks for the vids!
Never mind! Just found the new vid!! Ha ha!!!
Love those tack driver shots!
"Better than OK?" by what I saw you shoot that pistol like a pro. I wish I could shoot a tack without being a foot away just to see it much less hit it. Great video again! Keep up the great work my friend.
Will do Mike. Thanks for watching!
Great follow up review devil-dog. You and I both know what the problem is. If it had a bigger hole in the end of that barrel as in .45 you would be killing it. Just kidding you did better than I would have. I am still trying to adjust myself to these reflex and red dot type sights.
Thank you! I'm coming to the conclusion that the red-dot sights will never be as fast as iron sights, but for those of us with aging eyes, the trade off is we can achieve the level of accuracy we are accustomed to without the need for glasses or contacts. Regarding this specific pistol, I think I just need to spend more time with it.
I just fell in love with my first Tisas
Many Thanks !
Thank you for producing another great video. If you are not use to using a red dot, there is a learning curve that one can master after firing roughly a box of ammo. That learning curve is to focus on the target while you are presenting the pistol. I found it easier to build that into muscle memory by doing dry fire drills at home by taping a paper target and then a USPSA target to a wall and running the drill for 10 to 15 minutes a day. Please let us know how it went at the LE Training course. Hope you have a great time.
Thanks Ricard. I've been working with pistol optics for about 7 years now.
I hope we get to see a video of the law enforcement training course in July
I’m going to try to record some video, but I don’t want to disrupt the training so I’ll have to play it by ear.
I have a Colt SP1 configured EXACTLY the same as the one on your wall. I purchased mine for $500 in 1987. Nice video.
Very cool. Mine is a Fulton Armory FAR15 A1. It's pretty much a dead ringer for the rifle I was issued when I was in the Marine Corps. I still love the classic lines of the original M16.
@@hrfunk You're right, it IS a dead ringer for the Colt, right down to the 4x sight. Thanks for the great content!!! It's much appreciated and enjoyed.
Is There Looseness In The Barrel Bushing and Barrel /Slide Locking Lugs HrFunk I Know Your a Great Shot So I Know It’s Not You But That 2 Feet Low at 25 Yards Has To Be The Pistol 😩
I was able to adjust the sight to where it's now 2" +/- low at 25 yards. The barrel/bushing fit seems good. I'm thinking about giving SDS a call to see what they might have to say.
@@hrfunk Yes I’m Curious Myself
With the Tisas, the low point of impact is from the iron factory sights. The gun seems to shoot low out of the box.
When you go to that course, let them assume it's a staccato. A bunch of agencys are switching to them.
Now I am wondering where the problem is. Is the dot in some way defective or the machining on the slide inaccurate? But I feel certain you will resolve this question with time and experimentation.
The sight is intended for micro-pistols, so I don't think it has the adjustment range of the larger versions. Even so, the slide-cut probably needs to be deeper.
@@hrfunkDoes the red dot mount directly to the frame or do you need a plate?
There’s no plate. It mounts directly to the slide.
Seeing the tack driver was very satisfying. What holster are you using with it?
None yet, but I'm evaluating one that was meant for a Staccato.
I just started watching your 507k review. In the first part of the video, watching the close up of the pistol with optic mounted, it looks like you have a canted optic cut. The top of the serations on the slide appear to come closer to the optic cut at the rear versus the front. I would see if a canted plate helps or contact Tisas. Good that it's a loner test pistol. May just be an optical illusion
I think it is. I'm looking at it right now, and the cut looks fine.
@@hrfunk good to hear, I'm really interested in this pistol. I've been rethinking a manual safety, hammer fired pistol for carry, and this seems like a great option. Of course a more expensive option will probably be more refined, possibly better sprung. For my first 9mm double stack in not sure if I'll see a difference and I'll probably really enjoy it.
Maybe really hot +P or +P+ loads will bring the shot placement up.
Maybe. I think I'll try some standard velocity 115's first and then go from there.
You probably know this but you can buy plastic optic shims to deal with the red dot shooting low.
Ok I'm somewhat relieved. I bought this pistol for a budget friendly 2011 that maybe could fill a home defense and carry role. If I can get similar results I feel like it will do fine in those roles. I admit, the tack shot had me sweating 😂
If I remember correctly direct mounted slide cuts are supposed to have about a degree of downward angle milled into the slide. I would imagine your pistol has the slide milled parallel. I could be wrong on that but I'm pretty sure that's correct and would explain your problems
I might give SDS a call and see if they can offer some insight.
Try an optic shim.
Anything that raises the optic will just exacerbate the problem.
After the first two head shots at the end I would have packed up, left the range, and retired from shooting
Get a good striker fired pistol, even an M&P. Problem solved!😅😅😅😅😅
Is the optic mounted to a plate or direct mount? If it was me, I’d put a piece of aluminum foil under the plate, optic but only at the rear of it. I’d also use fingernail polish on the screws and not torque them down all the way. Snug but not enough to make it bend because of my “shim” of aluminum foil. Seeing this is going back, I’d not want to break the base of the optic by tightening it too tight. Since it’s a “temporary system", this would be a temporary fix FOR TESTING ONLY. (Don’t want to get flamed on by someone thinking I’m espousing a duty solution.)
I don’t remember what kind of trigger this has. Long or short? Too much trigger finger or not enough?
I know that Hickok 45 has issues with small guns and shooting left. He claims it is because of trigger finger placement. You don’t have gorilla hands like he does so, that may not be the problem for you.
Another thing you’ve taken out of the equation is those old eyes of yours and interfacing with iron sights….😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I usually zero my handgun optics at 15 yards because it is on the very outside limit of a DGU and I don't want to worry about hold over.
I always like to plan for the longer shot and adjust for the shorter one.
Good morning HR. Vortex makes a slanted plate for coarse elevation adjustments. I don't know if it matches the Holosun footprint. The match ammo sounds like a hotter load. Where's the muzzle flash in the thumbnail?😂 Do your jacket epaulettes snag on the seat belt? I have a bush jacket that does that. Good shooting at the training class.
I think any sort of plate under the optic will just exacerbate the problem. I'm planning to give SDS a call to see what they might be able t tell me.
Yes, a canted plate would probably help. It would act like a 20 moa scope base on a rifle. You would have to count the available elevation clicks in the optic. if you have all the box stated adjustment in the optic, the optic cut in the slide may not have been milled properly, or the optic may not have been machined properly. You might be able to do some measuring with a good set of calipers, but I'm not sure. I would field strip the slide and remove the optic. Then, measure from the bottom of the slide to the optic cut where the optic sits on both the fore and aft of the optic cut, then compare. You might see variation? Seems like something is canted.
I'm not an expert by any means, but I've never had a double-stack 1911 that I've been comfortable with. I guess I'm a purist, as I'm way more comfortable (not to mention more accurate) with a single stack 1911. :)
Nice presentation and shooting . I’d be curious to see if mounting a light putting more weight up front would tighten up your groups ?
Thanks. Maybe I'll give that a try, although I was pretty happy with their "tightness'. It was the location of some of the shots that bugged me.
I guess my only question is, would you trust your life to it? I have a couple of the Tisas 1911's in 9mm and .45. I carry and trust them. I really like the 2011 and it will probably be my next purchase. As always Thanks for the video!
You're welcome. As I mentioned in the video, the Carry DS has been absolutely relaible.
Nice shooting H.R . I have been having issues with my Opits planet order. They fill my order for Domestic delivery reason. I'm bummed.
Give their customer service folks a call. Maybe they can help.
Still pretty good shooting, i don't remember the caliber of this pistol, I assume it's a .9mm?
Yes. It’s a 9mm.
Frankly, and not looking at other comments first, I think you're trying too hard to shoot this pistol. I'm not a good enough shot to think to hold high or left or whatever. I'm too stuck on that "center mass" that the instructor was screaming about. I developed The Glock Flinch and never overcame it, but retired and stopped carrying the issue Glock. I pick up the trusty 1911 and it's like shaking hands with an old friend. Same with a S&W K-frame. But I do enjoy watching you shoot and your methodology in diagnosing issues.
Do we all have a gun we feel we can't shoot? I just can't shoot the m9A3 I put that rubber grip thing on it that came with it and it's a very wide grip but I like the texture. A lot of shots to the left even in sa. Maybe I got a lemon ha! This sights can't be adjusted just by turning a screw.
The basics of marksmanship are always the same. It’s just a matter of training. Even so, there will probably always be certain firearms that we shoot better than others.
no matter how good or not good you think you may be with that pistol,i still wouldnt get into a gunfight against you sir
HI, Howard... been a while.
Just a couple of thoughts on this pistol... First, is there any way you could perhaps shim the rear of that HoloSun slightly to make up that elevation deficiency? And second, I wonder if the discomfort you are feeling (and seeming inaccuracy you are experiencing) is perhaps just the slightly odd grip shape of the 2011 style pistols on the whole? I personally have fairly small hands (I wear a size 8 glove) which is why I love the 1911 so much, but I always found when I tried out any of the 2011 guns, they just didn't FEEL right. I always felt I would rather sacrifice capacity and trust my proficiency with a 10-round 9mm 1911 (or even better, a 9-round 10mm!) than give up the precision I tend to lose when switching to the 2011 design. I have a bit of a hunch you and I may agree on this, being revolver guys as well... when the SHTF, I'd rather put a small number of rounds where I want them than spray a crapload of ammo all over the place.
Hi Dale, I'm glad to hear from you. I hope all is well. Several people have mentioned that shim idea. My only concern is that the shim will raise the sight and potentially exacerbate the issue. I've got another remedy in mind, so stay tuned and I'll see if I can rectify the problem.
Regarding the "feel" of the 2011 pistols, I think you're right. Along with the grip characteristics, I think the recoil impulse also throws me off a bit. The Tisas DS is very soft shooting for a 1911 style pistol. Normally, less recoil would be a good thing, but in this instance I believe it's throwing off the timing of my follow-up shots. I've run into this issue previously with other handguns. After years of shooting various pistols, I think I've come to expect the muzzle (and sights) to be in a certain position post-recoil. With the Carry DS, the light recoil doesn't return the muzzle to the position I'm expecting. The net result is that it throws off my timing and causes me to feel a bit discombobulated. That probably sounds odd, but I think it's true.
No MIM, cheaper than the boutique 2011's......... No brainer really
I Believe you're so accustomed to 1911s it's just grip circumference especially up high beavertail area & trigger reach/hand squeeze. I handled one and MAC version last week just take some getting used to. My first shots w PIMPED PT92 I was pulling low right I think similar issue. With Two-Tone RP63 shot a .94 6 shot group in DA 7 yards w House of Payne .38 all touching on spine....but faster 125 grain Magnums were pulling left...I'm still not sure if just me or if a barrel can be on w way slower 38s but sling off faster 357s a few inches? If anyone has thoughts on that let me know please I know it's usually the Shooter but I didn't notice w two types of 158 magnums just my 125 magnums....
Could it be that the rotational torque on the barrel is greater with the magnum loads?
@@johnherr3579 Something like this has me wondering I don't know enough to know...may have to test more...could be the shooter jerking,but 158s recoil more to me so I don't think so...perhaps just that particular load idk
Different bullet weight, different velocity, different recoil impulse. The idea that the bullets will strike a different point is not surprising to me.
just woundering if you could put a small shim under the front part of the red dot or the mounting plate?
Maybe, but I'm concerned that the shim will raise the front sight even more and exacerbate the problem.
Plus / minus ⚔- info on your experiences always appreciated 👍🎯🗽 carry on 🔫 🇺🇸
507k is whats on my 365xl. Mine was almost dead on at 25yrd with 124+p grn hst's
Maybe try 115 gn?
I’m going to do that.
Would you have done better with iron sights?
Those pistol red dots seem like a lot of work?
I shot better overall with the optic. They do take some gettin' used to.
Placed a RD on my Sig m18 with absolutely no luck at all! Could not reliably find the dot on the draw.
Put one on my G19 gen5 mos with a lot more ability to draw and find the dot. I'm getting better, but...
Still working on it and my jury is still out!!!!
@@d7dun1010 I don't know if you saw this one, but maybe there's something in it you'll find usefull: ruclips.net/video/-2JTcC7Qd4s/видео.htmlsi=vtiJKTbQpHHqbtti
Thank you!
I recently purchased the Tisas BR9 DS. I am having same issue with point of impact being low. Shooting from 15 yds, I was low while aiming to center. Is Tisas acknowledging this?
What type of sight did you mount? According to Tisas, this issue only occurs with sights such as Holosun that have less adjustment than other brands.
@@hrfunk the low point of impact is from the iron factory sights. The gun seems to shoot low out of the box at 15 yds. and bench stabilized
You might want to contact them about that.
You might want to contact them about that.
I was thinking about getting one of these pistols myself, I have a question about it though. Does it use the same type of holster as other 1911 patterns?
No. The rail and the square trigger guard don't play well with holsters intended for a standard (or even a railed) 1911. Staccato holsters should work well.
@@hrfunkokay thank you
Got invited to a training shoot...... did your buddies call you in as a ringer ?
Ha, ha! No, I got a call from someone in charge of a training facility. He’s a viewer, and he wanted to invite me to attend the session. It’s an LE-only course, but he said I could attend if I wanted to, even though I’m retired. I thought, what the heck, I can never have too much training!
It seems to me that when you concentrate and go slow enough you do we with the pistol. Something with this pistol does not agree with you. I feel that you can master this pistol but is it worth the effort?
I think so. It’s a good handgun with a lot of potential as a competition or self defense piece.
Do you know the model # of that Tisas?
It’s the B9R DS.
2:03 solution: zero at 15yards
It's already maxed out on elevation and still hitting about 2 inches low at 15 yards.
Do you need an optic plate?
No, optics with the RMSC footprint are a direct mount to the slide.
FOR ME..... I don't even own a 9mm handgun at this point.... have about everything else LOL.... But again... for me? 9mm has never been a stellar performer accuracy wise.... For me... commander length 1911's have never shot well. For me.... optics don't work. I can't even find the dot in the dozen or so I have tried. for me.... those glow plug sights are useless.....Full size 1911 in 45 acp in the Government style and even an arched mainspring housing... but I can live without the last. My cast and coated (HT) 200 grain SWC of the old long nose version at about 1000 fps will give me honest 1-2" groups from a rest at 25 yards. This is my standard for semi autos.
catching the replay i overslept