Powermatic 3520c Lathe Review - Can a Mustard Monster be Black?

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @mpart_woodlathe-stuff
    @mpart_woodlathe-stuff 2 года назад +1

    You deserve it Mike ! I am so envious. Some of those features would be welcome. Thanks and take care. -Mike

  • @twong789
    @twong789 2 года назад

    Hi Mike, congratulations on your new Powermatic 3520c. This one is especially nice in the black Centennial colours. I'm happy for you!!! Enjoy.... Also, thanks for taking the time for making all these videos on woodturning over the years. Much appreciated. Peace, my friend. Take care!

  • @Tim_Pollock
    @Tim_Pollock 2 года назад

    Proud for ya Mike. I love my 3520C.

  • @ronaldwhite5603
    @ronaldwhite5603 2 года назад +2

    Hey Mike. I always enjoy your very helpful and instructive videos. I've been turning for about five years, but recently retired and have picked up the pace quite a bit. I also purchased the Centennial Edition 3520C in an effort to increase the size and improve the quality of my turnings. It was a definite step up for me. One of the issues you address in this video is the exclusion of an electrical plug, and the lack of a clear set of instructions for the electrical connections to the lathe. I don't presume to speak for Powermatic, but on the former, I understand why Powermatic chooses to not include a plug with the lathe. I assume Powermatic ships this lathe all over the world. Although the operating voltage for this size equipment is almost universal across most of the world, the configuration of plugs for this voltage range is not. Even if Powermatic shipped lathes that were proprietary for the US, there are at least three different configurations for plugs in this size and rating. Further, local codes can vary and you might need to change either the male or female end of the plug to match existing building wiring. It could clearly become a headache and expense for Powermatic and its retailers to anticipate all the variables.
    As to wiring instructions, I think PM makes it just clear enough for an electrician to understand and follow. I suspect PM wants the end user to get a licensed electrician to make up the correct plug and ensure the correct voltage to limit their liability from damaged equipment or worse. It's probably part of their loss control strategy.
    Mike, keep up the good work! And, congratulations on your beautiful new lathe. I'll get over it soon enough, but sometimes I just sit and stare at mine. It IS a thing of beauty!

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад +1

      Perhaps we should call it "Black Beauty". Sounds better than Mustard Monster.

  • @bradbarker6691
    @bradbarker6691 2 года назад

    Hi Mike, Thanks for your expertise on wood turning. I purchased the anniversary edition 3520 about six months ago and have loved it. I have spent almost every day turning something since then. I find it an amazing lathe. I did have some problems with it at first. The motor had this very high pitched squeal at higher rpms which was coming from the inside of the motor but after some use it went away. Yesterday the on/off control switch failed. I have a message into technical support so I hope I can get it up and running again. Next to my wife it has been the love of my life. I just wanted you to be aware of a potential issue.

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      My motor fan is louder than the b model. Always a good idea to blow the dust out of the switch. I had to replace the switch in my old one about 5 yrs ago. Not a bad idea to put the control in a zip lock bag. I will do that before it goes out of warranty.

  • @scottmedori1437
    @scottmedori1437 2 года назад

    Nice review. I really enjoyed the fact that you showed both the pluses and minuses. Made it so it was not like a sales pitch. Enjoy the new lathe!

  • @mikeribelin7822
    @mikeribelin7822 Год назад +1

    Mike, Enjoy your video's especially this one about a lathe I have been thinking about purchasing. Now I'm picking mine up today and look forward to many years of turning. I sold my PM 2014 to my neighbor, I have liked the lathe, but thought it was time to upgrade while I could. The switch on the 2014 is the same switch, mine also started working intermittently during my Christmas turnings, new switch is coming. I will use the suggestion given here and by Powermatic of the plastic bag, even though it seems they should have come up with a better option. Thank you for doing such a nice job of reviewing the 3520c!

  • @MikeB0001
    @MikeB0001 2 года назад

    I love my C ..I bought it several years ago. I have nothing to compare it to as it's the first wood lathe I've ever had! I did some turning in wood shop in school back in the 70s. Mine had a cord but I wish it came with that light. Congrats on the new toy! Nice review.👍🏻👍🏻

  • @kengunnell6398
    @kengunnell6398 2 года назад

    Great review. Two of my club members also bought the same lathe and took advantage of the discount as did you. I have an older 3 hp Powermatic and am debating on an upgrade. Your detailed review has been appreciated

  • @naturaIIydifferent
    @naturaIIydifferent 2 года назад

    Man, that sucker is SWEET!! Congratulations on your new baby! Can't wait to see what you make with it sir!

  • @eileencollins3126
    @eileencollins3126 2 года назад

    Mike, I think you did an excellent review! I have the 2020 "baby" version, and was considering this anniversary edition. Now, I have more information to make a decision with. BTW, I am not any kind of electrician, and hired an electrician to install the wall plug on my 2020. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!

  • @davidmorgan7522
    @davidmorgan7522 2 года назад

    Congrats Mike! What a beauty! I've been turning on my 4224B for about a year now and love it! After your great review I see some nice improvements. I especially like the way the tool rest clamps. When using the larger PM rest on mine it will move around some. Thanks for the review and happy turning on that Beauty!
    Take care, Dave

  • @bradbyers7505
    @bradbyers7505 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the end-user review. Mine is not the anniversary model, but the mustard color is growing on me. I agree with you, especially with regard to choosing a lathe that fits the needs/wants of the individual. For what it’s worth, I’d like to add a few observations regarding my own 3520C: mine came pre-wired, so that was a blessing in my case. I hired an electrician to install a dedicated 220v line and receptacle for safety and insurance purposes. The spindle lock mechanism has taken some getting used to in my case. I need an idiot light or a mechanism to keep me from turning the lathe back on while the spindle is locked. I’m learning. I like that the controls are magnetic and can be relocated, but I wish PM would have kept the mushroom knob of the B series. Just me. The only thing I can hold PM accountable for is the rough finish on the underside of the banjo. I have watched a few videos on unboxing and setup. One RUclipsr suggested that the contact surface of the banjo should be dressed VERY LIGHTLY with a draw file before letting it contact the bed ways to prevent scratches and to improve the ability of the sliding action. Mine was rough as well on the bottom surface. I expected better fit and finish from PM on a $4,500+ piece of equipment. I do love the added mass on the lathe in general, and I agree that bigger (and heavier) is better. I opted for the tail stock swing-away and am glad I did. It acts as a short bed extension when in battery, and as you pointed out, that is a massive, heavy tail stock. As for me personally, I waited a very long time to get my dream lathe. I’m not a bit sorry for my choice.

    • @ronaldwhite5603
      @ronaldwhite5603 2 года назад

      BTW, the bed ways are very well machined, much better than either of my previous lathes. I pulled the banjo and tailstock off and hit the edges with a fine mill file and some sandpaper. No more scratches. Like you, I waited a long time to pull the trigger on this purchase. My expectations may have been too high. However, I am very happy to finally have this machine in my shop. I expect it will outlive me by a mile and maybe one of my children or grandchildren will park it in their shop.

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      I have a video coming out on banjo maintenance that talks about the edges causing screeching. Were you an artilleryman also? "In battery" is a term I have not heard in decades.

    • @bradbyers6865
      @bradbyers6865 2 года назад

      Mike - My dad was an artillery soldier. He was at Ft Sill.

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      Few are privilaged. ✌

  • @tick_magnetedschaper5611
    @tick_magnetedschaper5611 2 года назад

    What a beautiful lathe Mike! Congratulations!!!!

  • @WYOMINGWOODTURNER
    @WYOMINGWOODTURNER 2 года назад

    Mike, I'm happy for you. This is an awesome machine. I love my old PM and it served me well. I think this review covered all the bases. Very well done. I love the new/improved features. As far as "get an electrician...." the translation is we don't want you to sue us, so they are covering their behinds. Anyway, well done, have fun. Sam

  • @bertdelisle393
    @bertdelisle393 2 года назад

    Great review Mike, that new machine is a well thought out Assembly. It has improved a lot,, almost like the engineers were listening to users, and actually added the features that improve the functionality. I look forward to your impression after you get some miles on it.

  • @courtlandhacker1145
    @courtlandhacker1145 2 года назад

    I just bought the same lathe about 2 months ago thought it was very weird it came with no plug! Have had many big lathes and never had that before. Was easy enough to put on plug but still. Love the lathe though! Thanks for the videos

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      Was the cord connected to the lathe already?

    • @courtlandhacker1145
      @courtlandhacker1145 2 года назад

      @@MikePeaceWoodturning no. Had to buy plug and install cord. I believe there is a layout in the last couple pages of the manual. Could be mistaken on that would have to look again but seemed like a weird thing to have to do at that price range and powermatics great build quality.

  • @michaelmcdermott2178
    @michaelmcdermott2178 Год назад +1

    Thanks, Mike!

  • @jazziespaz
    @jazziespaz 2 года назад

    Hi Mike, You might want to consider putting your controller inside of a plastic bag to keep the dust out inside. I just had to replace the switch (still under warranty) which was dust related. The tech at powermatic told me about the bag method. I used a ziploc 1 gal bag and folded and taped it in the rear and poked a hole for the speed control. Still able to put it in the dock. Enjoy your new lathe. Mike

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the info!

    • @loujacobs9291
      @loujacobs9291 2 года назад +1

      This is a terrific (and so simple - why didn’t I think of it?) solution. I also had to install a new switch - the forward, reverse switch, after only about 18 months of use. They covered it under warranty, but I didn’t like having to cut into the rubber backing on the control box to access the screws to open it up. I do try to regularly vacuum off the control box, but I’ll use the plastic bag idea. Thanks!

    • @jazziespaz
      @jazziespaz 2 года назад

      @@loujacobs9291 My Reliant drill press has the same type of switch but they have a clear rubber type of covering that is mounted over the buttons to keep dust out. I'm sure Powermatic is aware of this problem and you'd think they would have come up with a better design.

  • @danielbrown4256
    @danielbrown4256 2 года назад

    Hi mike. Very nice lathe. I looked at that lathe and the larger 4224B. I decided however to go with a tHarvey T-60S instead because ofthe price. l got a 3HP cabinet table saw and a 3HP 14 inch bandsaw as well as the lathe for only slightly more than the cost of the 4224B. I am finding a few things that I would like Harvey to do better, but overall mine is a very nice lathe. And Harvey comes with a knock out bar that is like the one that you showed. That is one feature of my lathe that I do very much like.

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      I did not know much about Harvey as I have never seen one. I did read this interesting article. www.woodworkersjournal.com/harvey-bringing-woodworking-education-china/ Enjoy your new lathe.

  • @edmorse3529
    @edmorse3529 2 года назад

    That's a nice upgrade!!

  • @johnstephan6929
    @johnstephan6929 2 года назад

    Hi Mike, I just got my "Black Beauty" yesterday and agree with you about the electrical cord part. I too went to the local big box store to get a cord and ended up tossing it. I would be interested to see a close up of how you attached your dust hood to the lathe as I have a dust hood and like your attachment device..

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      Some pictures of that are in my recent Shop tour video. I also have a video dealing with it in my shop playlist.

  • @markg.8209
    @markg.8209 2 года назад

    Hi Mike, thanks for the review. I have a PM2014 and in order to get the 20" capacity I need to move the headstock so that it's hanging of the base somewhat. That may be the same situation with yours.

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      Hanging out a bit for a long spindle should not be a problem. Your lathe has so many of the same features as the larger one.

  • @bobbyfowler7319
    @bobbyfowler7319 2 года назад

    I used the schematic in the back of the book for the wiring of the switch. No cord for mine. I made one out of a 12g drop cord.

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад +1

      Mixed bag on the issue of a cord. That schematic did not mean much to me but Carl Ford's blog was clear.

  • @jeanlong5965
    @jeanlong5965 2 года назад

    Congratulations on your new lathe. What are you going to do with your old lathe. I live in Spartanburg, SC and might be interested in buying your old lathe.

  • @jimseavey1665
    @jimseavey1665 2 года назад

    Hi Mike, this video was very helpful. I am new to turning and I have taken courses, now I’m ready to make a purchase and I only want to do it once.
    One of the other students has a 3520c and a American beauty, he said the 3520c is great but will struggle if I want to do coring. What is your opinion on that?

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      I only use the small knife on a small core so have no problem. I have not heard of any major issues on coring with a PM. But you can stall almost any machine if you try hard enough. If I was doing production coring all day I would go for the 3 hp. But for the typical hobbyist who might occasionally core, maybe not. The American Beauty is a wonderful lathe. I turned on one for a week at Arrowmont. For me it was not worth the additional cost.

  • @homecookbasics
    @homecookbasics 2 года назад +1

    How do you like the light?

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад +1

      Nice accessory. Articulating joints provide lots of versatility. Bolted on mean no risk of toppling off.

    • @homecookbasics
      @homecookbasics 2 года назад

      @@MikePeaceWoodturning thanks for the reply! Do you fund it to be brite enough? Also is the articulate easy to move frequently? There are no reviews of the light online.

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      I find it plenty brite. I think the articulation is easy enough. Not as easy as a flex shaft lamp but it absolutely stays where you want it and can't be knowcked off since it is bolted on.

  • @peltona
    @peltona 2 года назад

    Nice review. In all the years of you turning on the B, did you ever have to replace the bearings or belt? Any problems with VFD or motor?

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      No. The bearings and belt will probably outlast the owner. We have an A model at my club probably 20 years old. No problems.

  • @josephpotterf9459
    @josephpotterf9459 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks Mike did you sell the previous 3520b i'm looking for one but might just get a new one . My jet 1642 has power issues the lack of mostly. Otherwise it's a decent lathe.

  • @grbmds2751
    @grbmds2751 2 года назад

    I hope the finish on your 3520C is better than standard one I bought about a year ago. Within the first 6 months the yellow finish has chipped off in many places. I have always taken great care of my tools and am very disappointed in poor quality of the finish on the tool. Chips have appeared in areas that only wood chips would have touched. It's a great lathe as long as you don't care about whether the paint stays on it.

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад

      Sorry about your lathe. I wonder if you called Customer Service if they would not send you a can of paint.

    • @ronaldwhite5603
      @ronaldwhite5603 2 года назад

      That would be very frustrating. Unfortunately, paint is one of those issues that might get by an out-the-door inspection by Quality Control, and not show up until the end user takes possession. Too many possibilities to list, but could be inadequate surface prep, bad paint or batch of paint, humidity, etc. So far I've had no issues with the Centennial Version black. Time will tell. I'm with Mike. Ask Powermatic to hit you up with some paint. It wouldn't take much for a few chips. A good automotive body shop supply could probably match the color and mix some up for you.

    • @loujacobs9291
      @loujacobs9291 2 года назад

      My 3520C arrived with some damage due to shipping, including scratched paint in places. PM replaced all the damaged parts and sent a large can of mustard yellow paint. Perfect match and I’ve got probably 95% of it left. Maybe at some point down the road I’ll give it a total makeover.

    • @grbmds2751
      @grbmds2751 2 года назад

      @@MikePeaceWoodturning I am planning to contact Powermatic. I guess the real problem is that the paint was fine when I got it. It just doesn't seem to be durable. I understand paint worn away on the banjo where the tool rest rubs against it when lowered. And there are obviously other places that I might nick myself, but there are places on the body of the lathe where the paint is now bad and these places are not even areas I work at (like at the head end of the lathe since I do my work with the head moved down toward the tail for bowls.Too bad, too, since the lathe itself is amazing; solid and powerful and a pleasure to work at.

  • @jackthompson5092
    @jackthompson5092 2 года назад

    What a beast Mike.

  • @trurex007lee7
    @trurex007lee7 2 года назад

    Thank you! I am contemplating the purchase of a bigger lathe so this is very helpful. QQQ: I occasionally need to move the lathe, only a couple feet to clean around it or move closer to the wall but this doesn’t come with a wheel option. Could I just use a floor jack to put it on short wheels, move it, then jack back up and remove the wheels? All that weight and casting shouldn’t throw any alignment off.

    • @MikePeaceWoodturning
      @MikePeaceWoodturning  2 года назад +1

      The local Woodcraft had their b model on lockable 3" casters that made it relatively easy to move. That is probably the cheapest, simplest route. Unless you are very tall you proably would want to remove the 4" risers.

    • @trurex007lee7
      @trurex007lee7 2 года назад

      @@MikePeaceWoodturning Thanks, I’m 6’2” and stand on a anti-fatigue Matt so would probably use the risers.

    • @s.l.makuka9219
      @s.l.makuka9219 2 года назад

      Hi Mike & Trurex007Lee, Congrats, Mike, on your new PM3520c. I also bought a 100 Anniversary Edition and it arrives next week. I watched you unboxing video also, and was hoping to see how you moved the bed and headstock, and assembled the legs and stood the lathe upright. I am by myself and need to figure out how to assemble and move the lathe from my garage to the shop. I did buy automobile “skates” used to move cars sideways in a garage. I bought two for each end but don’t know how I can lift an end to slip the Dollie’s under the legs. How do/did you move your new lathe? I am very much looking forward to making shavings on my new “big boy” lathe! Congrats again. Thanks for all of your great instructional and informative videos! Steve

    • @trurex007lee7
      @trurex007lee7 2 года назад

      @@s.l.makuka9219 congrats! Borrow a friend’s floor jack; it should be low enough to get under the leg brace. I see a 3520c regular one for $4500 delivered at US Supply that I have my eye one.

    • @s.l.makuka9219
      @s.l.makuka9219 2 года назад

      Thanks Trurex007Lee, I’m looking forward to the delivery but have trepidations regarding assembly and moving it. If you can swing it, you might consider purchasing one now before inflation catches up and they cost $7K!