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I honestly think it’s hilarious that the animated short “once upon a studio” serves as a better love letter to Disney over the last 100 years than the multi billion dollar animated film that was made for theaters.
@@dylansharp8471 The fandom is built not around the movie, but ONLY the concept ideas and building upon it. Literally no one is passionate about the movie itself, only about what it could have been.
@@dylansharp8471I think they're right. Wish is considered the worst Disney animated feature since Chicken Little. No one is passionate about Wish because the movie itself lacks passion. It feels like a bunch of tropes put into an AI script generator.
@@vetarlittorf1807Man, what do you know?~ It's incredible that both those 2 movies had good concepts but then got scrapped for worse version to "make it safe", one for money/biases and other for risks.
In the book version of the movie, there's a powerful line from Magnifico. It's when he captures Star and asks something along the lines of ''Where were you when I needed you? What makes the girl so special?''
The novelization also has him point out to the crowd that he would have been content to be loved and trusted by his people, and just protect the wishes he didn't grant for the rest of his and their lives (simply because they made him feel happy), BUT because Asha challenged him, and he got desperate and used the Forbidden Book, he learned he could just TAKE happiness and anything else he wanted from others by doing such things as destroying wishes. So, as he puts it, she ruined their lives by driving him to extremes out of her own petulant nature.
Dang. That honestly hits. I mean, he grew up in a war torn country and in poverty, which is the reason he made sure people never would go hungry and didn’t tax them. The wish would have been great then, but it comes to a very peaceful place, to a kid who just didn’t like not getting her way
This review doesn't actually make fun of the movie's silliest plot point. Early on, the queen warns the king never to touch the evil book lest it turn him evil. Then later when the good guys need to read it, she whips out some magical hand cream that allows them to safely touch the thing. You could have mentioned that to your husband! LOL
I know I keep mentioning this, but it would have been SO MUCH better if the queen was the real villain. If Disney had gone through with the idea of Magnifico and Amaya being a villain couple than this probably would have been a better movie! Seriously, imagine how great of a twist would have it been if Amaya was the true villain! I think it would have been cool to reveal that she was the great evil that destroyed Magnifico's home and slowly manipulated him to open up the book to become corrupted cause maybe for some reason she lost the ability to open the book and that's why she needs Magnifico to open it instead. I mean through out the whole movie her personality felt too nice and boring to me so I was expecting her to be the twist villain. Many plot holes could have been fixed with her as the villain like the roof having an opening. She could have installed that herself as part of the spell she needed Magnifico to use the wishes on. If this movie was supposed to be dedicated to the 100 years of Disney than Amaya would have been the perfect villain to honor that cause she would honor the modern twist villains but also honor the truly evil ones cause she would had never loved her husband! She would have just wanted power! The fact that I can rewrite just ONE character and have that fix so much of this movies problems, just shows how lazy the writing really was!
Oh, shit, and here I thought the evil book was the only half-way clever part of the movie. Like, it's an obvious metaphor for substance abuse - how Magnifico knows he mustn't touch it, and keeps it in a safe... which is also a huge glass display in the middle of his living room. Yeah, buddy, you're not fooling anyone. And how his wife manages to talk him out of using it, but the moment he's under a minimal amount of stress, he zooms straight back to it, and we understand that he's DESPERATELY craving for ANY excuse to use it... Turns out, I simply forgot about the special cream that totally allows you to read the evil book responsibly!
@@Alknix Sorry I ruined it for you. FWIW, you can imagine the little scene with the hand lotion (or whatever) isn't in the movie and the metaphor for substance abuse still works. Honestly, I think the only reason they came up with that scene was that they were worried viewers would feel bad about Magnifico being trapped in a mirror forever at the end, what with his implied tragic backstory and everything, so they wanted the characters to learn that he had become unredeemable after using the forbidden magic.
@@theadaptationstationmaster Nah, don't worry. Truth cannot ruin, it only enhances! My headcanon is that 1st and 2nd halves of the movie were written by different people. 1st one wanted to have this nuanced, morally gray and tragically flawed character, and then half-way through they fired him and hired some hack who just wrote "And then he turns into the fucking Jailer from WoW for no reason, idk lol!"
My biggest problem with the Film is that the "Villain" isn't really that bad. He says some Wishes are to vague to be granted, and some aren't meant to be granted. And he's right. He creates a Utopia where everyone seems to live without worry of food or clothing or anything.
Yeah I used to think that the worst thing he did was make the people forget their wished but then I remembered that the people knew about that and still willingly gave it up so yeah he really didn't do anything wrong
I think that rewrite came from removing the evil queen part. You know his wife and have her be believable to stick with him. Insted of being hypnotised or be under control to make Magnifico a bigger jerk so she can resist him... But by doing that... You gotta have Magnifico do something believable and make him sympathic to make others understand his plight. But by doing that... his heel turn makes no sense so we gotta add this evil book that changes him truely evil, but.. OOPS we ran out of animation time and editing time and-- It starts with rewriting one or two things, but now you gotta make everything else fit and then... you run out of time. Like even the cute star was ORIGINALLY suppose to turn into a starboy and talk and inspire others to make wishes. And what's even funnier and sadder is that the wish of the grandfather DID become a mob and defeat him by inspiring others to use that motivation to.. break the magic. Sure he turned evil.. but.. Magnifico in the end WAS RIGHT! I know they went with the whole: "You deny this wish for being vague well here is it's true power." But since the movie sucks... and doesn't do anything right. This also is lost. What I love about this movie's discourse is how everyone is like: "But Magnifico was right, I get the allegories, but in practice he takes away the wish and uses it as motivation to do good in his kingdom. And the people do it WILLINGLY" If he was a devil in disguise sure.. then it would be bad, cause you know: "To get your wish granted do not take the easy route from a smiling man." But yea.. I can harp on how every element and decission makes this movie boring. It's over explaining and under explaining and avoiding things, but wanting to say things and aaaaagh. It never tries to lean into anything.. it's doing a tightrope walk but insted of putting it really high, its at GROUND LEVEL and STILL HAS ITS SAFETY NET OPEN!
What could also be a message for the time we live in. That man people and Generations had it too good for so long, they don't know how got they have it. That it is not normal to have good clothing or food for every day. Many people have so much and so few problems, that they search for some, and then we get something like we have nowadays in the USA and EU. Because living in a house with a full Refrigerator and wardrobe is nothing special anymore.
Yea they really missed the ball with him. He is suppose to be a call back to old Disney villains but he’s not, you understand why he does what he does. The man builds a kingdom where everyone is happy, can get their wishes granted, and live there for free. But every time we see him ask for something (Asha to be his apprentice or asking the people for help) everyone else ignores him and asks for what they want. I would turn evil if I ruled the people of this kingdom.
You know you screwed up bad with your magic wishing star movie when your biggest competitor does basically the same thing but with a spanish cat being chased by a sadistic baker and an emo wolf, and completely steamrolls you with infinitely better creativity, charm, and music.
It's just as screwed when an indie- born show about demons is a better musical than the animated musical celebrating 100 years of history...But I'm just speaking my mind here.
Jack Horner is such a fun parody of greedy, vile, shallow corporate Disney that he is what SHOULD have been the big bad of a Disney100 celebration movie.
Honestly, I know that Puss in Boots 2 came out first but it perfectly fits the parody angle of Disney when compared to wish. They have as opposite of messages as you can get, in Puss in Boots 2 it’s you don’t need to wish upon a star you’ve already got what you’re looking for, while in Wish it’s EVERYONE should have their wish granted. That’s just really funny to me!!!
Between Asha overthrowing a king for not giving away more free stuff than he already did, and Ant Man being shamed by his daughter for retiring after he helped take down Thanos and save the freaking world, Disney has been advocating some really weird morals lately, haven't they?
'Ant Man being shamed by his daughter for retiring after he helped take down Thanos and save the freaking world' Hey, no need to lie now... Ant Man didn't retire, he starts the movie saying 'I will be there if the Avengers need me. In the mean time, I want to focus on helping inspire people and reconnecting with my daughter who's been recasted as an ungreatfull asshole'.
Don't forget Raya and the Last Dragon where the moral is to always trust people, even when they stab you in the back and it leads to the destruction of the world as you know it. Just trust people who clearly have their finger on the trigger of a crossbow, and maybe at the 11th hour they'll come around.
*And it's all by design too.* They're literally advocating for asking for more than you already have. They're teaching us to be ungrateful little bastards in order to keep feeding them the greed that they have been cultivating for years on end now. They're brainwashing us into becoming pro-capitalist, where greed is the true ruler of society, not the President.
Don't forget Wanda Vision. If you hold an entire town hostage, forcing an entire population to live out your fantasy, and they can only do anything as long as you permit it. They should be a bit more understanding if you give up your imaginary kids you had for a week to set them free from you.
The saddest part is, this is going to be Disney’s last foreseeable original animated film for the time being. All the movies they have lined up for later on are all sequels to existing films. It’s almost like they’ve given up.
There's Elio and an unknown, but presumably original, Pixar film on the docket. And, if you were running an animation studio, wouldn't you back off original films for a bit if you have so few non-sequel ideas that THIS is what you scrape off your shoe?
@@Volvagia1927 I don't think it's the idea of no ideas. Creatives are willing to do something major and different. However, businessmen, who are not that good at business or creativity, interfere and ruin what could be amazing
@@Volvagia1927 Those are Pixar films, though - they seem to be only studio they currently have any faith in for creating original content. Given how the main studio’s sequels have generally been received, I dunno…
The most generic, underwhelming way to celebrate 100 years of Disney. The worst part is, they cut out so many great ideas from the final version.(the star being humanoid and Asha's love interest, "At All Costs" being a love song between the two, Magnifico and the Queen being an evil couple, etc.) This could've been so much better.
The original concepts were so much better! Unfortunately Disney execs can’t let the creative teams get anything done and we get deprived of anything new :/
*Asha:* "You have to grant everyone's wish!" *Magnifico:* "Okay...What if someone wished for the end of the World?" *Asha:* "W...Why would someone wish for that?" *Magnifico:* "Oh, you sweet, summer child."
Well, someone actually could actually wish rule the world as the next Hitler, so Magnifico would have a good point (he was more “hero” material than Asha).
Exactly..Not all wishes should be granted. What if someone’s wish was so dangerous and straight up illegal. Like..is this girl for real..She would allow crime to take place.
Except Asha never said that. People keep to say Asha wanted for every wish being magically fulfilled, when all what she wanted was for Magnifico to return the wishes he didn't mean to fulfill in opposite to let the people void of their essence. She wanted for him not judging by himself what wish was good and what wish was bad according his paranoid suppositions, but to give them a chance to try to fulfill them by themselves without magic. Heck, they explicitly said Asha's friend become lethargic after to give his wish to Magnifico. And all the theories about destroy the world and being Hitler are just pretentious and petty considering the argument began on a wish that is nothing like that.
@@FrancescaAkira89People gave up their wishes WILLINGLY. It’s not like he’s stealing them, took them by force or hid the fact that he took them for good. It’s the same as telling bookmaker he has to give people their money back after they lost their bets, so they can spend it on something actually useful.
My idea for a simple fix for the Magnifico arc: Make his wish-granting magic come from another wishing star that he absorbed. It was indiscriminately granting wishes and was thus the source of the kingdom's past calamity that he stopped. Other changes follow sensibly from that: The calamity is why he's so careful about which wishes he grants: he's seen what can happen otherwise (have the absorbed star give him no direct control over how a wish truly manifests once granted). He keeps the wishes instead of returning them (he still sees the value people place in them, so he does still protect them) in order to stop people from wishing on stars and potentially summoning another one to earth. He used the dark magic book to absorb the star the first time. He resisted its corrupting influence because his motives were pure and his mind was clear. This time, fear and paranoia about a new star, and his anger at his citizens' entitlement gave the corruption an inroad, turning him dark (a villain that needs saving, not just defeating). I think that would have really helped the worldbuilding, added depth to the character, and tuned up the message to be about not relying on magic or miraculous wishes to achieve your dreams (not a fan of the "just keep wishing" message of the actual movie).
I know it's just so crazy that he wasn't a redeemable villain...the set up was right there. They just forced it to be something else for flimsy reasons. I beleive him as a redeemable villian more than the volcano god in Moana tbh.
@@iateyursandwiches He was more redeemable than Abuela from Encanto, that woman exploded her whole family, she didn't even care if her son was still alive, she blamed her granddaughter about the lost and confidence from the family, she wanted to force her other granddauther to get marriage with a man that she didn't like him in order to get more grandsons with gifts, she favored her over the other ones, for not mention that Abuela demanding Isabela that she must be perfect. And despite all of these things, Abuela get a redemption arc after all. So Disney tells you that "being careful with the wishes is bad ? But year of abuse, gaslighting and exploitation are not so badly things?
I really liked the idea you had of the king becoming the villain then having a redemption arc. Villains who turn good is one of my favourite tropes of all time as it adds a complexity to the morality of the character and shows them considering multiple sides.
Yup. I don't really mind too much seing Disney make lackluster or straight up bad movies in general. I had a great time with Disney, and it is a bit sad to see it descent, but I can let go and move on. But when they make something that's advertised as a celebration of 100 years of Disney, and they not only spit out something of this quality, but then also have it practically promote ideals that I frankly consider toxic while villainizing a fairly reasonable take, I just can't help but be insulted. Tl;dr: I don't care if they drag the Disney name through the mud going forward, but don't smear mud on it when looking back.
The worst part is that it is actually easy! Make Magnifico initially look like bad guy, when Asha gain power of creature capable of granting wishes. She try throw rebellion against king and then everything goes shit. In the end she need grow up and understand why granting every with is actually horrible idea and that star is actually evil demon. Against who Magnifico was standing for. Could work as meta commentary about fandom, which is greedy and actually ruin the art. But no!
If you think about it, the first Kingdom Hearts is a better celebration of Disney than the movie Disney themselves made. The main character is legitimately a good combo of several iconic Disney protagonists, the worlds are from iconic films, and even the villain is more like an actual Disney villain, even with all his anime mumbojumbo.
Holy crap, that’s what they should’ve done as the thing Critic was mentioning about a bunch of characters from different movies. Get with Square again and just make a KH movie
Kingdom Hearts is a literal perfect Disney world. It throws you in as. Protagonist into your favourite Disney films reinact your favourite parts of the films.
Disney: We promise to give you an old school villain, just like the ones you used to love. Also Disney: Gives “villain” reasonable backstory, logical reason to run the kingdom, and then force him to be evil when the protagonist acts more selfish than he does. Classic Disney 😒
Well… after having 2 phases of going through twist villains and then no villains, it’s at least some sort of progress. Not much, but at least we’re SLOWLY starting to get back to the traditional Disney villains.
Except not that last part. The protagonist was asking reasonable questions for why he doesn't give back the "will never grant with magic" wishes to their owners, and he acted like a spiteful, entitled ass about it.
@@hunterolaughlin at least encanto is still better than wish, and wish is a little better than the mid tier garbage that was strange world but not by much
What gets me is that when they look through Magnifico's magic book, they try to see if there's a way to "save him" from the dark magic, they specifically say that once it's unleashed, he can't be saved from it. This implies that his wife still thinks he's a good person deep down and wants to help him, but then at the end when he's trapped in the mirror, she acts like he was always evil and decides he must be punished. So, which is it, is he supposed to be a classic Disney Villain who is just evil and loves it, or is he a tragic character who was corrupted? Either this was written by AI or two different people wrote the first and last halves of the film.
@@mceky89 Apparently that's not how wishing works in Rosas; Star is said to not explicitly grant wishes straightaway but helps people achieve them. Wishing is powerful enough en masse to banish Magnifico but apparently it can't purify him. Though as others have pointed out, how do we know the evil book isn't lying?
I remember hearing something about thoughts for a Kingdom Hearts movie instead with Sora visiting all the classic movies. its own Spiderverse with the characters hopping world to world across dimensions. but due to legal reasons with SquareEnix, they decided not to. That would have been one hundred times better than what we got. one idea I would have loved to have seen is the art style of the movie changing to whatever world Sora entered. classic hand drawn 2D when Sora enters a world like Alice in Wonderland or Cinderella, then 3D when he enters Wreck-It-Ralph and Frozen. it would have really shown Disney's animation evolution over the generations. there's so many reasons this would have been better than WISH.
Fun Fact: This movie was originally Wish was going to be a hand drawn animated feature, but wasn’t because they felt there were some limitations to it and decided to try and blend both 2D and 3d animation. But you know what’s ironic? The Boy and the heron came out the same year. Not only it was more successful critically and financially, but it was also a major award winner. All while sticking to their formula while still prioritizing the story and it was hand drawn. Something this movie failed to do.
Disney could easily tower over the profits in live action remakes and CGI films if they released another fully 2D classic style animated film and they know it. What merch is still wildly successful DECADES after release?? Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty- these films from the 90s, 60s, 30s are still being cherished after 100 years yet Disney still actively snubs what made them a household name. They not only ignore what people are begging for, but double if not triple down on repeated failures then insist it was successful or that its just crybabies on the internet being "haters".
Disney's 2D movies helped make them a household name and push the art of animation to new lengths than before with each release from their first film Snow White and the seven dwarfs in 1937 to the movies of the 2000's like Treasure planet & Lilo and Stitch yet nowadays it's like a full length 2D movie is box office posion to them it's not like 3D movies can't be good rather they can be very good like Moana & Zootopia yet it's 2D animaion that started everything for them and to not cherish that it's sad to see. A least the short films espeslply Once upon a studio offer us the thing we like the most from them.
It's because that in the late 90's, 2D animators unionized... So now when you hire 2D animators in Hollywood, you actually have to treat them decently and give them good payment and vacation time and stuff. 3D animators, however, are free game! You can absolutely exploit those, give them inhumane working hours, change things last minute they have to re-animate under a crunch, under pay them and then just fire them with no precaution the moment the production is over and done with, just bringing in a new team on the never ending conveyor belt, cause we don't lack young passionate people that desperately want to be animators for Disney.... Disney is sure to kill their passion real quick though! And replace them after their souls has been crushed! Over and done with.
Asha: everyone's wish should be granted. Jack Horner: I wish to have all the magic in the world, leaving none of it for no-one else. Everyone: pauses and doesn't respond.
9:12 rule 1: you cannot make someone fall in love with you. Rule 2: you cannot kill anyone. Rule 3: you cannot bring someone back from the dead. It's not a pretty picture. AND I DON'T LIKE DOING IT!
1. Make asha the princess daughter of magifico 2. Make the star more human like in the concept art and build a romance between asha and star 3. Hire broadway writers not pop music writers 4. Magnifico says "he got these geenes from outer space" so have it turn out he's keeping a star he wished on and bleeding it for his magic
It’s ironic that Julia Michaels was the songwriter when previously in Ralph Breaks the Internet, an extremely sanitized and lame corporate produce as well, she did the “cool” pop cover of the Slaughter Race song for the end credits that was another corporate product. (Okay I admit I DID like her pop cover but point still stands)
One of the parts that confuses me the most, when Asha questions Magnifico, is the fact that part of her job seems to consist precisely of explaining the rules of the city to newcomers.
But at that point she didn't know he was choosy about which wishes to grant, and more specifically that he wasn't going to grant HER relative's wish. She apparently had no reason to think about things like that...which makes her look rather self-centered.
@@roristevens2810 You have a good point; The curious thing for me is that just with the explanation she provides at the beginning of the film, it is vastly clear that the vast majority of the city's inhabitants would never see their wishes fulfilled, regardless of the system that Magnifico used to choose which ones were appropriate and which ones. No.
@@juanprada4410 Oh yeah, the math doesn't add up and there's no indication that anyone else in the land has considered this either. Or they HAVE but don't mind. Asha's opening narration does assume that the wishes of particularly good people are the ones granted, but even then, given we're never shown legit bad wishes...
The critic keep flirting with the real issue with the whole wishing system, but never really gets to the heart of it, which is that Magnifico is RIGHT. The writers had to go out of their way to create a literally perfect world where no one has any bad wishes, and the "worst" wish they could show was "wanting to inspire the next generation" where they have to SHOW VISUALLY that they literally mean him playing the guitar, just to make SURE that no one could interpret Magnifico as being right. Also, just as a side note, the people of Rosas have to give up their wishes when they turn 18, so her grandpa decided prior to being 18 that his greatest wish in life is "to inspire the next generation"?? What literal child thinks that?
I feel like they realized he had a point and went to make him an asshole so nobody would be on his side. And Asha really comes across as a reactionary and unintentionally power hungry
The plot trying to make Magnifico the villain is dumb, but he is younger than the grandpa. He would've begun granting wishes by the time Asha's grandpa was older than 18. It's also their choice to give up their wish.
@@emilybrinkerhoff6825Ehhh, it’s a bit dubious there. Everyone over 18 is legally obligated to give their wish to Magnifico if they want to live in Rosas.
@@DuelaDent52 I'm trying to remember, is there a line where they say it's obligatory? All I remember hearing is that they "get" to give their wish. I've only watched it twice though so I might've missed something.
That concept should have been the 100th Anniversary film. My guess was it originally was but the cost to hand draw everything would have been far to much.
I hate the fact that for the past... I don't know, decade or two, we had people complain about how past Disney movies say wishing on a star promotes the idea of laziness and complacency. And Princess and the Frog tackled that idea by showcasing that it's not wrong to wish and believe WHILE working hard. Sometimes life isn't fair, but you can still find value in life. She still gets her restaurant in the end, but they've been rather good at showing the lesson about living life being happy with or without dreams coming true before that part. But this movie had a bunch of people not even trying to hone their skills after so many years and just relied on Magnifico for everything? And once Asha became the official wish granter, suddenly it's okay and nobody has to try to gain skills or seek knowledge for themselves because she can just grant them without question? Wish had this GREAT idea about a heroine wanting to extend a helping hand in a fantastical journey. This could've been a wonderful story about a girl's desire to give back to the community with love and compassion in a magical way with a villain showing the dark side of that life. (Granted, I still prefer the OG concept before the script-scrap but I'm trying to say that's what they could've done as well) But everything that she did came from entitlement and narrow-minded thinking without any consequence of what granting every wish could bring and THAT would've been a good lesson for her to learn but nope. She gets everything and never gets called into question. THE END. (You guys have no *idea* how much I wanted an origin story about a fairy godmother and DIsney took that idea and spat it out like a chewed up wadded spit ball)
Oh my God, yes! I've been dying to bring up what you've said but couldn't find the right words. Plenty of other movies and shows have given us the pros and cons when it comes to wishing for something. Even Disney's past movies showed many protagonists wish for things, but at the same time, they don't just sit around waiting for it to come true. They work, go about their lives, and when presented with that dream, they know it's their job to follow through and make the best out of it; Cinderella with going to the ball to have fun, Aladdin believing Jasmine would never give him a chance unless he was royalty, Pinocchio learning to be human, Tiana wanting to own her own restaurant, ect. Even showing the dangers of wishing like how greedy Jafar was, Naveen wants things the easy way and how wishing comes with a price. Even assisting a wish come true can have consequences. Like in Sabrina the Teenage Witch explains the outcome of extending a helping hand at wishing. How Sabrina tried to assist three people, despite being warned that humans don't always know what they want. Things went south, and she fixed things as best as she could. This movie had potential but the end result was mediocre.
3:43 How can a DreamWorks sequel 11 years in the making, based on a Shrek spinoff character, have a better Wish movie than Disney's 100-year anniversary?
What's even crazier is that looking at the deleted scenes, concept and then The Last Wish itself. It felt like they were genuinely inspired by DreamWorks and wanted to create a movie as great as they did. Like Jack Horner turning giant, the race to the Star, developing romance, a great catchy song (At All Costs) different takes on how wishes work, an actual funny talking animal sidekick. But after all the changes, it doesn't feel like anything....
12:37 To be fair, the sloth scene from Zootopia is genuinely funny. It works for kids because the sloths being slow, Judy’s aggravation, and Nick enjoying every moment of it are hilarious. It also works for adults because the sloth scene is a satire of the actual DMV and how notoriously slow and inefficient they are. And Judy and Nick meeting with Flash is how a lot of people feel when they’re dealing with the DMV. All in all, it’s what I consider one of the funniest scenes in any Disney movie. The scene from Wish with the goat and the chickens on the other hand? That’s clearly just pandering to 5-year olds. In fact, you could probably describe the entire movie that way. That’s a shame because I really wanted this movie to be good.
I agree. It is pretty funny. But making fun of the DMV is a bit overplayed these days and the joke is almost always centered around how frustratingly slow it is. I mean, a very similar joke was made by Looney Tunes ages ago, but with turtles.
Gotta admire that you also describe how many layers there are to the scene and why it works. Judy is in a hurry because she is on a real-time crunge. This has been established, she only has 24 hours, that's why she is in such a hurry. Nick is the hostage of Judy in this moment, he doesn't even wanna be there, so to see his hostage taker being so frustrated is awesome for him. And he is being kind of a jerk, but it is also justified why he is a jerk, so we don't hate him for it. The sloth is just there to do his job, and so is oblivious to the dynamic going on in front of him and is actually being very pleasant, which makes it so hard for Judy because the sloth isn't doing anything wrong, and she doesn't wanna be a jerk, we know she's a nice person who cares A LOT about decency and being nice to others. Nick uses this to his full advantage. Because again... From his perspective at this moment, he is her hostage and there against his will, so he's actively working against her to rebel. There are so many layers here, so many elements that lead up to this scene and this situation that make it work so well. Having random dancing chickens for no reason at all... Doesn't work... Sometimes you need to put work in to earn the scene and earn the joke. The sloth scene was a culmination of so many things established before making the scene work.
We had a long fan discussion on “How would you have given this movie an actual PLOT?”, and the main consensus was “Weren’t you expecting Star to actually do something in the movie?” Y’know, like go around uncontrollably granting everyone’s wishes in town at once, causing chaos that Asha and the Scooby gang have to stop, and once everyone sees what their wishes are, they learn to work together, and even Mags develops an actual understanding personality?
Or that terrible Willy Wonka experience. Which is kind of like the opening skit now that I think about it. Edit: never mind, they actually reference that. Shot my shot too early again.
Except that at least people got _something_ decent out of Krabbyland. Here, it's just nothing but disgusting lies and the disappointment of being betrayed by your designated heroes.
@@nevaehhamilton3493 I mean between watching Wish vs being entertained for hours by SpongeBob followed by a disappointing clown, but also with the best burgers in town? Yeah, easy call.
The movie would have worked better if disney understood that the protagonists are not always the heroes. Asha beign an entitled brat determined to usurp magnifico and the latter redeming her would haveade quite the story!
The Fairly OddParents in School’s Out The Musical more or less got something like that where the protagonist Timmy Turner is wrong and the antagonist Flappy Bob is differently wrong so they both have to learn a lesson
@@matityaloran9157 How far we've fallen from the days of nuance. I mean Timmy was wrong by going to one extreme and Flappy Bob was wrong going to the other extreme.
I never saw the movie, but did they ever go over the message of "Stop wishing for things and go out and make your dream come true"? That would make the most sense to me for a plot like this, where the villain has this set up as a way to keep his subjects complacent Side note, would have been a perfect way to introduce kingdom hearts as a concept. Like these are all stories that people wished into existence
I was also expecting them to have that message. However, the movie states that when they give up their wishes, they completely forget them, thus they can't even work on them without Magnifico randomly choosing to grant them since they forgot what they gave him in the first place.
If the sequel is Just straight up Kingdom Hearts the movie I’ll forgive them The plot would actually make more sense and be more well developed then this
I wish that they'd had the Queen be an antagonist, alongside her husband, as was originally planned. It would have been interesting to see a villainous couple, and her being good wasn't explored much.
There were so many missed opportunities! I feel like Old-School Pixar would've told a story of a once-noble king who gradually became corrupted after decades of having to weigh and sort people's assorted wishes based on their potential outcomes, and Asha learning that not all wishes could or should be granted *without* becoming cynical and corrupt like the king.
Someone on youtube has been uploading leaked concept storyboards of the previous draft and the king and queen come off as so much more entertaining and animated. We were robbed of a killer villain couple.
I always explained that the reason Goofy is anthro and Pluto is a "regular" dog is because their franchise takes place in a post Animal Farm universe lol
They really should have made Once Upon a Studio a full-length movie to celebrate the anniversary. Maybe the plot could be about an intern at Disney who aspires to be an animator but struggles with a block and fear of rejection as Disney's most iconic characters help to inspire him to reach for the stars by teaching him everything Walt stood for like innovation, ambition, creativity, hard work etc.
“Instead of reminding us you’re the company that made ‘Snow White,’ how about you ACT like you’re the company that made ‘Snow White.’” Basically everything we’ve been screaming at Disney for the past five years. But they’re too busy sniffing Bob Iger’s farts to give a damn.
I feel like I've been saying it since they made the 2006 Disney logo, stopped making 2D hand-drawn animated movies, & aired Hannah Montana & the other bad live-action teen drama sitcoms.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 Technically started probably around 2019 or 2020, under Chapek. Disney has late 2026 releases already on the release schedule now, but it's in the writing stage way before then.
Let's say the "wishing ceremony" was a bit more nuanced. Magnifico checks everyone's wishes, and if it's something mundane or whimsical, he just leaves it to you. If it's something exceptionally noble, then, once in a while, he will grant it. And SOME wishes he takes away and makes people forget about them. He claims those wishes are dangerous. Kinda like "Minority Report" - curb the crime before it happens. And, well, it seems to work - the kingdom has far less crime than others. But as a downside, people whose wishes were taken away are shunned by the society. Magnifico himself is against that - he keeps reminding everyone that the "dewished" people are completely safe, but it doesn't help. After all, if your wish was deemed dangerous enough (even if it happened years ago), then there must be something wrong with you, right? It doesn't help that Magnifico doesn't tell anyone what those supposedly dangerous wishes were - he thinks it would be embarrassing for the dewished. In the end he just sees this as a necessary evil. And THAT'S Asha's motivation. Her grandfather was dewished and was treated with suspicion because of that his entire life, maybe it has even ruined some opportunities for him. But Asha knows him as sweet and kind and doesn't believe he could've possible wished for anything THAT bad. Finally, she feels the need to know for sure. She goes to Magnifico and demands to see her grandfather's wish. He refuses, she sneaks in anyway, and sees that it (and in fact most banned wishes) are actually something mildly subversive, but not nearly to the kingdom-threatening level, and dewished didn't deserve to have their life ruined for it. She demands that Magnifico fixes it, but he refuses, because even if his judgement is fallible, he cannot admit it or else the whole system collapses, and the system works! In general. For most people. Even if some suffer from it. NOW both sides have a point and we have a meaningful dilemma.
That is a good idea. Unfortunately, Disney is allergic to those. There was a lot of potential in the concept, but it was executed incredibly poorly in the actual film. We're supposed to see Magnifico as the bad guy, but he created a utopia where everyone is happy. As you point out, taking the wishes of evil people has the benefit of preventing evil acts. It also makes sense that Magnifico would be concerned about this because his family was killed, and he founded Rosas so something like that would never happen again. It could for make an interesting conversation about freedom versus security. Instead, we got something where I literally don't even know what it is trying to say.
Ash: grant my wish to help my family member to become a Great musician Magnifico: no because it can be a threat Asha: you are a villain and I’m going to dethrone you
How does wishing to be a great musician a threat ? That seems like an excuse to NOT grant the wish as the whole vagueness is a lazy reason as Shrenron while doesnt grant every thing wish explains better like cant bring the dead back to life if it's a nature death then murder
@@nicholassims9837 That was not the wish! He did not seek to become a great musician, he wanted his music to have profound effect on people, ergo inspire! That is literaly a form of mind control a very dangerous one if it lacked control which would have been the case.
@@Raximus3000 real mind control is the forcing Love being a good singer is not going to cause anyone to lash out as he isnt a siren , also the fact that Magincfio didnt even bother to help in a different way like give Asha grandfather singing lessons doesn't put him in a good light. As what's wrong with wishing someone happy ?
Grandpa wanted to be an inspiring street musician. King said he could inspire the people to rise up against him… but at the time he’s not given any reason for the people to rise up against him.
"A hero who becomes the villain who becomes the hero again." Thank you for that idea, Nostalgia Critic, that would be a brilliant thing to watch and truly something that hasn't been done before by Disney - at least not in that form. The closest they got was Kenai from Brother Bear, though that film was far more dedicated to the process of his redemption than the process of his corruption. Nowadays Disney seems to be stuck on the "generational conflict" trope and is refusing to move on, so here are some more ideas - of course all of these have been done before, but I would love to see Disney do them in new ways: 1. The main character is a morally grey trickster whose actions change the people around him/her, but not him/herself. 2. The main character is a coward who learns to show courage. 3. The main character is a stiff official/bureaucrat who learns to loosen up. 4. The main character is an ideologue who has to sacrifice or question their ideology. 5. The main character is a bully who learns to become kind. 6. The main character is a fearful and misanthropic loner who learns to connect with people. 7. Two main characters, one incredibly proud and the other with low self-esteem, learn from each other. 8. The main character loves and idolises a person at first sight, learns their love interest is not who they thought they were, then develops a far healthier kind of love for them (anti-Frozen). 9. The main character relies on others too much and learns to do things for themselves. 10. The main character is a tired warrior who feels responsible to solve all the world's problems, and eventually learns that they deserve peace and quiet for themselves even if the world will never be perfect.
Didn’t Dreamworks kind of do something like that with Megamind? Main character starts out wanting to do good so he can be accepted, but realizes he’s better off being bad and embraces it, but then later in the film he becomes the good guy?
@@TheDragonman104 I don’t think that really counts. I think they meant more of like a Shakespearean tragedy or Walter White style story. A story where the the main character starts out as a nice, heroic good guy but gets progressively more and more evil to the point where by the end they’ve turned into a full on villain. Kinda similar to what happened with Hal in Megamind, except done with the main protagonist.
@@misterslick2693 They literally said, “Who becomes the hero again”. There was never any mention of having the character die like in a Shakespeare tragedy.
7:26 either Magnifico granted extra wishes thus breaking his own concept of monthly ceremony and lowering the whole movie’s stakes altogether, because he can grant as many wishes as he likes that day of the month- or Rosas is such a magical place, a year there lasts 425 days. The math ain’t mathing
I was wondering about this! And remembered Asha’s friend saying that the king also always grants the wishes of his apprentice’s family as well. So I guess he gets a new apprentice every year maybe?
@@sereiatiger the real question here is what even is the point of having apprentices when you wrote it in the *law* that you’re the only one authorized to use magic? :D , so they can go home, and do nothing with that knowledge? Is it for the wish lotto entirely, for the paycheck, for the glory? We’ll never know Finding a ‘successor’ for a greying Chris Pine would’ve made much more sense tbh
The worst part about this is the missed potential. Have Magnifico represent totally, cynical control, thinking only about pragmatism. Not evil, but making a world where things work, but with no lustre, no joy, just efficiency. Then have the wishing Star be a being pure chaos, any whim and desire granted, which can be fun, sure, but not all people wish for good things, or too many of these wishes conflict and start ripping reality apart as the world succumbs to total chaos. You could have a nice message, that you need to dream to enjoy life, but you also can’t live off whimsy alone, you need to compromise between controlled cynicism and chaotic whimsy if you want to actual attain long-standing joy in your life. That could have been a cool movie! It’s a unique and important message to give to kids, that life is hard but you always need to care for it to matter. But instead we just got nothing.
"You could have a nice message, that you need to dream to enjoy life, but you also can’t live off whimsy alone, you need to compromise between controlled cynicism and chaotic whimsy if you want to actual attain long-standing joy in your life."... so like Disneys Princess and the Frog? Where our two protagonists bounce off each other and one learns to unwind once in a while and the other learns to take on responsibilities?
So, the Lego movie, with Lord Business's city vs Cloud cuckoo land? WB did that 10 years ago and people are still complaining why that movie did not get a best animated movie Oscar nomination Disney is soooo creatively dead
I agree with what you say it’s one of many examples of how this film could’ve been way better, PS Life doesn’t have to be yard, life can be easier if we rethought how we lived or lives, and we TAX one percent of the world way more that would make our lives a lot easier.
Magnifico was right. some are too vague and some can lead to disaster, so Asha being upset that some need to be ungranted makes no sense- he even tells her the reasons why!
But that's not the problem she has with him. The problem she has is that he arbitrarily makes that decision while misleading the population into thinking they all have a chance, and that if he thinks a wish is ungrantable he should just give them back because he thinks that people are *incapable* of granting their own wishes
@@garulia17 Critic just used the same example. These people gives their wishes and only once a month a wish is granted. It makes sense that there are some wishes that are not granted, considering that they say more people join the city. Not to mention how many more people are born. It is literally said in the story in the beginning of the movie, that making them forget the wish is to make sure they can still live happily in the kingdom even with the knowledge their wish was never granted. They give their wish for a chance to have it granted, a lottery ticket is bought with a chance to win. It goes by the same logic, and not to mention that he only took the wish away and not their ability to make a wish. Hell, now that I think about it. How do you know that there are not multiple wishes made by the same person floating in his tower?
@@garulia171 it's his kingdom and his magic He didn't want to be a king at first , he just build a home for himself that other people started arriving and asking him to live there too
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't both Brave and Aladdin examples of what can go wrong when wishes are too vague? Aladdin uses it to take down Jafar and it's Brave's whole plot. Did Disney just forget that bit? How is Magnifico unreasonable here?
The problem isn’t that Magnifico doesn’t grant the wishes, it’s that people don’t know what they’re missing and deserve to be able to pursue their wishes under their own power which they can’t do because they literally don’t remember it.
@@DuelaDent52 but he told them that's how it works just write it down you morons wait does noone tell there friends or family what there gonna wish for
The fact that many people liked Leo, an Adam Sandler movie more than a Disney film for it's 100th anniversary I might add, that shows you how far Disney has fallen
I remember people doing videos on comparing those two and as shocking as it is to say, there is no competition: Leo, a Netflix movie, is better than a multi-million dollar Disney movie. That is so sad I actually want to cry.
Oh, how I WISH they actually made the Star boy, like they originally planned, and did a love story between him and Asha. I honestly start to miss Disney’s animated love stories… That one could have been great, and given the plot line of Asha kinda becoming future fairy godmother more depth, as FG and the star in the sky both help other Disney lovers.
God your so right. Disney apparently thought Star would’ve been to much like Genie from Aladdin but what’s wrong with that? Maui was a good shapeshifter and worked out great!
I like Star as a mute celestial being of pure joy. The shapeshifter thing they had planned could've also worked really well but personally I'm just glad they didn't go with the Starboy + Romance route because "Starboy" would've actually taken the shape of Asha's grandfather in younger, which I am deeply uncomfortable with. At All Costs is also my favorite song on the soundtrack and I feel like if it was a love song it would not really amount to much. It would just be a long "I love you". These songs can work like Finally I See The Light in Tangled but only in the right context, as in that example Rapunzel's and Eugene's journey started out transactional but turned into a romance, with the song being the confession, whereas Star and Asha would've started out with aligning goals. I think for that song being from both the protagonist's and antagonist's point of view, singing about the same thing with the same words but with opposing viewpoints is more interesting.
Star Boy could use the Red Stone of Asha, place it upon the mask in Magic Mirror and wear that to become a vampire who can survive the Sun's light: in other words, reject his humanity and become the ultimate life form! WRYYYYYYYYY! [ENGLISH SUBTITLES] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - One Cartoonist's Dream 【ver VILLAINS】(Disney Medley)
Imagine having your entire family taken away in a horrible tragedy, leaving and then learning magic, to build a kingdom where everyone gets along. Only for some teenager to rip it all apart and then trap you in a mirror. What a villain origin story
The most telling bull I have seen, ever, is the after-credits bit having the old guy play a classical guitar arrangement of "when you wish upon a star," thanking the literal star for granting his wish. It continues unobtrusively under what would otherwise be a terribly bombastic logo. It's real sweet of a note to end on. So it's great that instead of the title, the subtitles on Disney Plus call it "[Disney Theme Plays]." I have never before seen something more honestly expose itself as being a product.
To quote the late great Norm Macdonald and something i'm sure Alan Tudyk might be thinking about right now is "You ever lie for no reason at all? Just all of sudden, a big lie spills out of your evil head. Like a guy will come up to you, 'Hey, did you ever see that movie with Meryl Streep and a horse?' And you go, 'Yes.' In the back of your head, you're like, 'What in the heck am I lying about over here? I stand to gain nothing by this lie'."
This is the *second post* I've seen of you quoting Norm Macdonald without any relation to the video you are commenting on. At least you learned how to use quotation marks this time.
''Why are now questioning this?'' That part annoyed me SO MUCH. Like, there was no twist on how Magnifico was; at best, him using the book as a last resort. But the problem Asha (and the others) had from the start of the film was him not granting every wish. Asha even says ''so you're saying most of this wishes AREN'T going to be granted?''. They knew that wishes are granted once a month, heck they even sing about it. They knew that they couldn't remember them, honestly the darkest part of all of this. They were fine with it a day ago until the script told them to. It felt so unnatural.
Not remembering the wish isn't really a dark part. It's kind of a win-win. You either get what you want or you stop wanting what you can't have. Imagine if any Disney villain had gone to Magnifico with their wishes. Is someone like Scar worse off for forgetting his wish to be king? Would Cruella be worse off if she forgot her wish to skin puppies? Is the Evil Queen worse off because she no longer wants to be the fairest of them all? Is Jafar worse off for no longer wanting ultimate power? Magnifico removes people's selfishness with their consent. It's a great system. He even waits for people to turn 18 before making their wishes. If he were evil and just wanted to hoard wishes to control people, it would be a lot easier to do it while they were children, but he makes them wait 18 years to make their wishes. Everyone involved in the transaction is a fully informed, consenting adult.
18:01 I think this idea would've made a much better movie. Have Magnifico go insane or become disillusioned with the people he rules over after he witnesses a ton of evil or bad hearted dreams. Asha's role would then to remind Magnifico of the goodness in people, while also realizing herself that not everyone around her is perfect. This would culminate in the climax, with Asha, having taken Magnifico's position for a short while, grants a bunch of "bad" wishes and makes the world worse, becomes severely depressed, makes a bad wish herself, and Magnifico, having realizing that not everything is as bad as it seems, makes a good wish and returns things to normal. If you want Magnifico to be just completely evil, just keep him insane after he witnesses all the bad wishes, or maybe he sees that his highschool crush wished to be with someone else instead of him and he got salty. I don't know. Either of these is more interesting and entertaining.
"I let you live here for free, and I don't even charge you rent." They couldn't think of better lyrics for their villain song, though Chris Pine is giving it his all.
@@Depth217 And if they carried that kind of mentality through the early Magnifico appearances, we could actually have hints to his narcissistic nature, since he's going 'i'm so nice when I could be mean' instead of 'i'm so nice just because'
Dummies with power are scarier than smart people with power because you can guess what a smart person can do with it but a dumb person you can't predict or guess anything because they'll do anything just because they can do it no matter the cause.
The great irony is that this movie is a perfect encapsulation of how Disney is acting now. Magnifico is only granting “the safe wishes” and pushing down anything that could upset the status quo. Meanwhile Disney is only doing “the safe shows/movies” (Marvel, Star Wars) and throwing out absolute bangers like The Owl House early (there are probably more examples but I don’t remember)
The star was originally supposed to be a love interest for Asha, but apparently, we can't have romance in a Disney movie anymore either. It's not like nearly all of the company's best films are all romance stories or anything.
What's sad that there was a leak concept of what the movie was going to be about. It was about a star becoming human the Magnifico and his wife were going to be the main villains.
A Sad Fact: This film is dedicated to Burny Mattinson, a Disney legend who died on February 27, 2023, having worked at Walt Disney Animation Studios for over 70 years.
Yeah the whole lack of bad wishes is literally something that would have broken the story. We are supposed to believe EVERYONE living in this kingdom is a GOOD person. Yeah no. One of the characters literally lusts after the king who is a married man. There is your bad wish there. I just realized ... the people of Rosas are literally the people of Whoville in the 2000's Grinch. "I want golf clubs. I want a diamond. I want a pony, so I can ride it twice, get bored and sell it to make glue."
In the case of that particular citizen, either Magnifico should let them down gently or find a way to grant their wish on a technicality like he did with the woman who wanted to be a great seamstress.
The Mary Poppins reference accidentally suggests that child marriage is legal in Rosas - who would wish for a nanny for their kids when they were 18? (The only loophole is that that person might have been a recent immigrant, and thus considerably older.)
@@roristevens2810 Not everyone makes wishes when they are 18. When a person immigrates into Rosas they get to make a wish. Although, that is an example of a selfish/immoral wish. It would mean either poofing someone into existence to serve as a slave for this woman or brainwashing and existing person into slavery.
@@mr.histor1996 Yeah, I noted that they could have been an older immigrant, but offhand since there's so much talk about giving wishes up at 18, that was the first thing that came to my mind. But you also make a great point that granting it would be allowing slavery to exist in the land. And the next wish crushed, for true love...oh boy. There was a reason that was one of the 3 things the Genie wouldn't do! Some have also noted elsewhere that the guy hugging the child is a VERY vague wish: Is the child dead and he wants him revived? Estranged? Does he even have a child at all?
@@roristevens2810 Yeah, there are a lot of seemingly innocent wishes that don't seem so innocent once you consider what granting them actually entails. Sabino's wish is a great example. He didn't wish to be a great musician, he wished to inspire the next generation i.e. mass mind control.
Doug summed it up pretty good at the end. The ultimate shame of "Wish" isnt' that it's bad; It's that it's bland and empty. Same can be said for most of the live action remakes too; all of them leave zero impact on you. This shows just how far Disney has sunk because they used to make movies where you would leave FEELING something, like you had an experience. Something to impress you, inspire you, and capture your imagination. Even when Disney had "Bombs" in the past (ie. "Black Cauldron", "Treasure Planet"... not dissing the quality of these films, just saying they aren't amongst Disney's most well received) there would still be SOMETHING in them that was fresh and creative and clearly left an impact with some people. Less well-received Disney films like "Black Cauldron" and "Treasure "Planet" got their cult-followings eventually... I doubt Wish is even gonna have that 20 years from now, because there is NOTHING inspiring or unique about it and to me, that's the ultimate tragedy. A company that could still be creative and interesting even at their lowest points is now producing mediocre forgettable fluff that pales in comparison to their previous work when they're actually TRYING... It's so sad and pathetic.
The fact that the film was ORIGINALLY planned to be in 2D but was then changed at the last minute because the Head of Animation said the style was "too limited" is infuriating... *Japan and anime enters the chat*
15:24 ♪ "No one lusts like Frollo! Or mistrusts like Frollo..." ♫ it works perfectly, they should've put it in the Hunchback. It just matches the character complexity so well! XD
My solution for the plot while keeping it relatively the same: Magnifico can see the future repercussions of the wish and the reason he does not grant them is that they in one way or another orchestrates his future downfall: Guy wants to be a musisican -> he makes music that inspires people and makes them think outside his regime and eventually rebel Lady wants to fly -> that means making magic accessible to commoners, meaning eventually there will be someone more powerful than him Kid wants riches -> neighboring kingdoms will eventually hear about it and team up to attack the kingdom for said riches.
The change I would make is that the source of Magnifico's magic and the wishes is a wishing star he found when he was young. The magic in it is running low because of the wishes he grants, and his bombastic personality hides the fact that he feels the wishes are all everyone cares about. So he's afraid that once the magic runs out, everyone will turn on him and hate him. And when he finds out that Asha has her own star, he sees a way to recharge his own and keep things going. And his defeat in the climax is from the citizens making all kinds of wishes, draining his source of power until all the wishes fail.
@@nicholassims9837he doesn't grant wishes Magnifico's main goal was to make a utopia for himself and others and the price was taking people's wishes and forgetting them... He only grants wishes as a sign of reward but he doesn't really need to because he already gives the basic necessities like peace, food and free shelter
@@bored0886 It really is a great system. It's kind of a win-win. You either get what you want or you stop wanting what you can't have. Imagine if any Disney villain had gone to Magnifico with their wishes. Is someone like Scar worse off for forgetting his wish to be king? Would Cruella be worse off if she forgot her wish to skin puppies? Is the Evil Queen worse off because she no longer wants to be the fairest of them all? Is Jafar worse off for no longer wanting ultimate power? Magnifico removes people's selfishness with their consent.
Another thing worth noting, I'm pretty sure this movie was originally supposed to be animated in the 2D style of old Disney, but it was changed to 3D at some point in production
You know what would have made Magnifico a tad more interesting? Have it so he knows how dangerous wishes can be if granted to anyone, maybe have him suffer from a form of PTSD if someone tries to have him grant everyone's wishes. Perhaps out of desperation and out of his queen convincing him, he opens the book, knowing it feasts on his darker emotions. Maybe even have Chernobog be the being behind the evil book.
I had the idea that Chernobog was his brother, who tried to use a wishing star to wish for all the power like Jack Horner wanted from Puss in Boots before being sealed away.
The short 10 minutes of a short for almosted all of Disney movies that acknowledges movies like Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, Chicken Little and even Home On The Range is better than this hour and a half snooze fest.
What pisses me the most is how they turned the king into the antagonist so quickly, there was no motive nor meaning to do that because they showed that he is actually a good king and has been taking care of his people, if anything, Asha should have been the antagonist because she decided to throw the whole system out the window just because she didn't like it even though it was clearly explained to her why ! At the end of it, she just installed the whole system she rebelled against only now she is the one in charge of it, so basically she became what she rebelled against !
I know that everyone points to Once Upon a Studio as the true crown jewel of the Disney 100 celebration, but I also want to point out one other thing Disney made that I feel deserves more attention: Wondrous Journeys, a new fireworks show from Disneyland that debuted for the 100th celebration. Much like Once Upon a Studio, it’s a celebration of Disney animation, including a reference to ALL 62 Walt Disney Animation Studios films (INCLUDING Wish). No Pixar. No Marvel. No Star Wars. No live-action. Just a beautiful tribute to the studio that’s basically the heart of Disney. And I do mean ALL 62 films. No matter how big or small the movie is, there is at least ONE small reference to it in the show. And much like Once Upon a Studio, it blows Wish out of the water as a celebration of Disney. I highly suggest people look it up, it’s one of my favorite productions Disney has ever put on in the theme parks.
For me, the movie needed one or two more years of development. Magnifico should have turned to evil out of fear, because of something from his backstory that stemmed from an evil or reckless wish. Him being afraid of his paradise being destroyed would be far more realistic and understandable than his ego being bruised. The song lyrics definitely needed work. And the colors needed to contrast and be more vibrant, rather than looking muddy and dull. A few other tweaks, and this could have been a decent movie.
I honestly feel bad for the voice actors, especially Chris Pine. I can tell he had FUN doing a villain and did his best with this...they all did. But it's sad that the script and songs were really...yeah...
I watched this recently with my grandmother She didn't like it And i hated it because the ""villain"" wasn't even bad. I was pointing out all the stuff he was doing was due to this recent stress, and a whole butterfly effect with the "protagonist" And he was truly evil when he got taken over by the book.
This movie has the inverse problem of WW84. There, the movie assumed that *literally everyone* would make exclusively selfish wishes. And that no one would, say wish for world peace and prosperity for all, or even just “I wish my partner didn’t have a terminal diagnosis.” But here, the movie pretends that literally *no one* would make the kind of wishes we see exclusively in WW84z
Can we talk about how stone cold EVIL the Queen turns out to be? She knows and acknowledges that Magnifico is under the influence of the evil book of evil, but even after he's no longer under it, she STILL keeps him locked up so she can rule the kingdom (that he built) alone.
"when it comes to the universe we are all shareholders" is a line written by either a sociopath or an AI. NO ONE TALKS THAT WAY AND IT DOES NOT SOUND ANY BETTER IN SONG!
Especially a movie that’s supposed to take place in a medieval fantasy setting! It’s like if Sleeping Beauty or Snow White were to talk about financial liquidity or leveraged buyouts. 😒
Something I think would've been an interesting idea is if the Star was actually evil and had been manipulating Asha all along. It could be a thing where it was the person who created the evil book and was banished to the stars. Magnifico's reason for taking the wishes would essentially be to prevent the star from returning until Asha chose to make her wish.
For what he said about Magnifico at the end, that's actually where I thought the movie started. Not exactly like that, but something similar. It seemed like a commentary on Walt being responsible for so many people's dreams because we put so much faith and hope into Disney itself. I thought that was clever and something we'd never seen, and also pretty bold for them to do and to comment on themselves like that, especially on their creator. He's right we've never seen the hero be good, become the villain and become good again. It's a great concept, and a cool idea. Some of my favorite characters in media were reformed villains. IDK, we'll have to wait and see.
@@incrediblefunk7220 Yeah and they have to be perfect. I liked how the critic said they should act like the company that made Snow White. All those references by the end just made me mad because yours reminding us of Disney and past projects, but YOU are not ACTING like Disney.
@@colbystearns5238 I think it's the latter - there's a gag later on during the forest chase where it gets mesmerized by the light from her wand, ala a car's headlights, and thus can't move out of the way of her cart. But the line in the song doesn't play as the joke I think it was meant as.
I'm pretty sure the word they were going for was stakeholder, not shareholder. A stakeholder is impacted by what happens to an organization, the universe in this case. A shareholder is a partial owner of the organization. You can't own the universe. It's a terrible line either way. There's nothing whimsical about stakeholders. But, it makes a bit more sense.
Funny thing is the fans seem more in love with the unused concepts than the final film. (Understandable, I too think a shape-shifting celestial love interest would've been awesome.)
I've already left two comments but I want to talk about something I just noticed and nobody else mentioned. When Asha asks Magnifico to grant her grandfather's wish he says ''Most people wait at least a few months before they start asking me for favors.'' It means he had previous apprentices who Magnifico let go because they were too selfish, or they left themselves after getting/not getting their wish granted. Or maybe he's referring to people in general. Nobody wants to be his friend, they just want wishes. He only has his ''loyal'' wife. And we all know what she did. Poor Magnifico.
Kingdom Hearts has a better understanding of Disney more than Disney now. We get to explore these worlds, their characters and stories while gaining insight to the grander story inbetween. Hell, KH3 gave us Woody and Sully being MVPs in their smaller stories. I miss older Disney.
If you want to see a cool reimagining of Wish, Lydia the Bard covers This Wish as a Villain song where Asha snaps after her mother's wish is broken. She steals the book of dark magic and tries to overthrow Magnifico. In this version he's not a villain but a fallen hero. He had good intentions to protect his people but took things too far. When he sees Asha with the evil book he realizes how he's taken things too far and hurt people. But his redemption comes too late. It's a fantastic cover of the song that goes so hard and has great visuals. Definitely worth checking out, it's the best thing to come out of this movie
That's kinda cool. And (Hear me out here) Maybe Magnifico's villain song could probably become an I want song. Probably change some of the lyrics but almost keep the same tone. And maybe at the end, We could hear a reprise of "This is the thanks i get" Instead of "This Wish. And while King Magnifico and the town are singing it you could probably have Asha get sucked into whatever Magnifico got sucked into in the movie.
The first concept of Wish was quite beautiful. Starboys character, Asha having a more confident and booksmart personality, Magnifico and Queen Amaya being an evil power couple. OH MY DAYS why did they delete it 😭😭
Or if you are being unfair as just because there your parents doesnt mean there right all the time as in South Park Kyle's parents refuse to let him go to a concert even after he did all his chores even make Cuba be in peace
According to modern ideas couples and romance are bad for women. Sure it is effectively calling for terrible things, but, it makes some people happy, who would be disney villains 20 years ago.
Just imagine how cool it'd have been for Magnifico to start as a cold distant jerk (Severus Snape style ♥️). With the help of the Queen, Asha & co succeed to free the wishes, but reek havoc on the kingdom, because a lot of wishes aren't safe. She and her dumb friends would then realise Magnifico was right about not granting all wishes. He was in fact protecting the kingdom from some evil force. And then, Asha realises that the Queen, who seems all milk and honey, is in fact the mastermind of a whole operation to unleash a demon contained in the evil book and take over the kingdom for herself. Asha then apologises to Magnifico, finds out his back story, and they join forces to defeat thebrat Queen. We'd have character development, dramatic fight scenes, an antihero and a twist villain, all in one. Not to mention a less annoying and entitled protagonist
Another Fun Fact: According to the official book "The Art of Wish", there was a scrapped romance between Asha and an earlier humanoid version of Star. In the demo version of the song 'At All Costs', sung by Benjamin Rice and Julia Michaels, 'love you' was in place of 'promise' and Asha's verse opens with her saying "Wow." These changes imply the song was originally a love song between the two characters.
Holy shoot, that makes so much more sense. Like, the absolute worst part of this musical is that the songs have Jack and all to do with anything happening in the movie. That song is the worst offender. I was watching it in pure confusion about why they were singing a song about either a baby or a lover and making it about these little glass orb wishes like rando lady wanting to fly is the greatest thing in the world
@@JStryker47Disney hasn’t even had one non-het relationship between main characters in any of their animated movies. The closest we come is Strange Worlds (and I guess live action LeFou though he’s still background imo). That’s two movies across three decades of my life lol, get off your wokeism crap. Disney isn’t shit now because they’re trying to be woke, they aren’t. They aren’t trying anything, that’s the actual damn problem.
@@tisvana18 That's because they were a family friendly company that wasn't pushing - and I quote, a "not at all secret agenda" back then. Parents are usually the ones who take their children out to the parks and to see the movies, after all. (Which is also the reason Walt Disney created Disneyland in the first place - so that there'd be a theme park where parents and their children could have fun together.) And also because most of their older, and better, works were based on fairy tales; which typically starred Princes and Princesses. You know... *heirs* to the thrones of Kings and Queens. That was kind of a big deal, back in medieval times. Why do you think the King in Cinderella wants his son to find a wife so badly? Because he wants his son to have children before he dies. That's why most parents want to become grandparents before they die - so that their family tree can live on. If it wasn't for hetero relationships, the human race would die out. In fact, that's the reason why pirates ceased to exist - too many of them were men, who died without ever procreating.
I feel like the main problem with King Magnifico was that they tried to make him into both a sympathetic villain and a pure evil villain at the same time. And you can’t really do both at the same time unless you know how to truly make it work.
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VERY dissapointing
I wish this movie never existed
Review Megamind please.
I honestly think it’s hilarious that the animated short “once upon a studio” serves as a better love letter to Disney over the last 100 years than the multi billion dollar animated film that was made for theaters.
That's honestly what I think of more other than this one being... complicated for me.
Agreed
Agreed
Once upon a studio was so good!! I almost cried
Tell me about it
The fact that the fandom consists of everybody just rewriting the movie is crazy to me.
Huh?
@@dylansharp8471 The fandom is built not around the movie, but ONLY the concept ideas and building upon it. Literally no one is passionate about the movie itself, only about what it could have been.
@@DeathKitta
"Literally no one is passionate about the movie itself"
Doubt it.
@@dylansharp8471I think they're right. Wish is considered the worst Disney animated feature since Chicken Little. No one is passionate about Wish because the movie itself lacks passion. It feels like a bunch of tropes put into an AI script generator.
@@vetarlittorf1807Man, what do you know?~ It's incredible that both those 2 movies had good concepts but then got scrapped for worse version to "make it safe", one for money/biases and other for risks.
In the book version of the movie, there's a powerful line from Magnifico. It's when he captures Star and asks something along the lines of ''Where were you when I needed you? What makes the girl so special?''
Wow that is deep, and is a legit question where was the star when he’s family and home are destroyed by thieves?!
@@JarodFarrant Movie makers didn't think of it, that's why it's not in the movie. And it would make Magnifico be more right than he already was.
The novelization also has him point out to the crowd that he would have been content to be loved and trusted by his people, and just protect the wishes he didn't grant for the rest of his and their lives (simply because they made him feel happy), BUT because Asha challenged him, and he got desperate and used the Forbidden Book, he learned he could just TAKE happiness and anything else he wanted from others by doing such things as destroying wishes. So, as he puts it, she ruined their lives by driving him to extremes out of her own petulant nature.
Dang. That honestly hits.
I mean, he grew up in a war torn country and in poverty, which is the reason he made sure people never would go hungry and didn’t tax them.
The wish would have been great then, but it comes to a very peaceful place, to a kid who just didn’t like not getting her way
@@roristevens2810 You see Asha I’d prefer to be loved, I would. But if you take that away from me, then well, being feared is a-one okie doke by me.
This review doesn't actually make fun of the movie's silliest plot point. Early on, the queen warns the king never to touch the evil book lest it turn him evil. Then later when the good guys need to read it, she whips out some magical hand cream that allows them to safely touch the thing. You could have mentioned that to your husband! LOL
I know I keep mentioning this, but it would have been SO MUCH better if the queen was the real villain. If Disney had gone through with the idea of Magnifico and Amaya being a villain couple than this probably would have been a better movie! Seriously, imagine how great of a twist would have it been if Amaya was the true villain! I think it would have been cool to reveal that she was the great evil that destroyed Magnifico's home and slowly manipulated him to open up the book to become corrupted cause maybe for some reason she lost the ability to open the book and that's why she needs Magnifico to open it instead. I mean through out the whole movie her personality felt too nice and boring to me so I was expecting her to be the twist villain. Many plot holes could have been fixed with her as the villain like the roof having an opening. She could have installed that herself as part of the spell she needed Magnifico to use the wishes on. If this movie was supposed to be dedicated to the 100 years of Disney than Amaya would have been the perfect villain to honor that cause she would honor the modern twist villains but also honor the truly evil ones cause she would had never loved her husband! She would have just wanted power! The fact that I can rewrite just ONE character and have that fix so much of this movies problems, just shows how lazy the writing really was!
Oh, shit, and here I thought the evil book was the only half-way clever part of the movie. Like, it's an obvious metaphor for substance abuse - how Magnifico knows he mustn't touch it, and keeps it in a safe... which is also a huge glass display in the middle of his living room. Yeah, buddy, you're not fooling anyone. And how his wife manages to talk him out of using it, but the moment he's under a minimal amount of stress, he zooms straight back to it, and we understand that he's DESPERATELY craving for ANY excuse to use it...
Turns out, I simply forgot about the special cream that totally allows you to read the evil book responsibly!
@@Alknix Sorry I ruined it for you. FWIW, you can imagine the little scene with the hand lotion (or whatever) isn't in the movie and the metaphor for substance abuse still works. Honestly, I think the only reason they came up with that scene was that they were worried viewers would feel bad about Magnifico being trapped in a mirror forever at the end, what with his implied tragic backstory and everything, so they wanted the characters to learn that he had become unredeemable after using the forbidden magic.
@@theadaptationstationmaster Nah, don't worry. Truth cannot ruin, it only enhances!
My headcanon is that 1st and 2nd halves of the movie were written by different people. 1st one wanted to have this nuanced, morally gray and tragically flawed character, and then half-way through they fired him and hired some hack who just wrote "And then he turns into the fucking Jailer from WoW for no reason, idk lol!"
Oh, my gosh, I went to the bathroom for that part, I'm glad I didn't see it.
My biggest problem with the Film is that the "Villain" isn't really that bad.
He says some Wishes are to vague to be granted, and some aren't meant to be granted. And he's right. He creates a Utopia where everyone seems to live without worry of food or clothing or anything.
Yeah I used to think that the worst thing he did was make the people forget their wished but then I remembered that the people knew about that and still willingly gave it up so yeah he really didn't do anything wrong
And suddenly he turns into a megalomaniac who literally crushes wishes and finds it hilarious.
I think that rewrite came from removing the evil queen part. You know his wife and have her be believable to stick with him. Insted of being hypnotised or be under control to make Magnifico a bigger jerk so she can resist him...
But by doing that... You gotta have Magnifico do something believable and make him sympathic to make others understand his plight.
But by doing that... his heel turn makes no sense so we gotta add this evil book that changes him truely evil, but.. OOPS we ran out of animation time and editing time and--
It starts with rewriting one or two things, but now you gotta make everything else fit and then... you run out of time.
Like even the cute star was ORIGINALLY suppose to turn into a starboy and talk and inspire others to make wishes.
And what's even funnier and sadder is that the wish of the grandfather DID become a mob and defeat him by inspiring others to use that motivation to.. break the magic.
Sure he turned evil.. but.. Magnifico in the end WAS RIGHT!
I know they went with the whole: "You deny this wish for being vague well here is it's true power." But since the movie sucks... and doesn't do anything right. This also is lost.
What I love about this movie's discourse is how everyone is like: "But Magnifico was right, I get the allegories, but in practice he takes away the wish and uses it as motivation to do good in his kingdom. And the people do it WILLINGLY"
If he was a devil in disguise sure.. then it would be bad, cause you know: "To get your wish granted do not take the easy route from a smiling man."
But yea.. I can harp on how every element and decission makes this movie boring. It's over explaining and under explaining and avoiding things, but wanting to say things and aaaaagh. It never tries to lean into anything.. it's doing a tightrope walk but insted of putting it really high, its at GROUND LEVEL and STILL HAS ITS SAFETY NET OPEN!
What could also be a message for the time we live in.
That man people and Generations had it too good for so long, they don't know how got they have it.
That it is not normal to have good clothing or food for every day. Many people have so much and so few problems, that they search for some, and then we get something like we have nowadays in the USA and EU. Because living in a house with a full Refrigerator and wardrobe is nothing special anymore.
Yea they really missed the ball with him. He is suppose to be a call back to old Disney villains but he’s not, you understand why he does what he does. The man builds a kingdom where everyone is happy, can get their wishes granted, and live there for free. But every time we see him ask for something (Asha to be his apprentice or asking the people for help) everyone else ignores him and asks for what they want. I would turn evil if I ruled the people of this kingdom.
“I’m a star!”
“Look out world here I are!”
Whoever wrote those lyrics needs to be fired immediately.
Yes! Fired and black listed.
And SET ON fire!
They am bad song writers.
PLEASE I'm a STAAAAAR
Me think that lyricwriters for Hazbin Hotel be better
You know you screwed up bad with your magic wishing star movie when your biggest competitor does basically the same thing but with a spanish cat being chased by a sadistic baker and an emo wolf, and completely steamrolls you with infinitely better creativity, charm, and music.
It's just as screwed when an indie- born show about demons is a better musical than the animated musical celebrating 100 years of history...But I'm just speaking my mind here.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 I mean, technically speaking hard shit is better than diarrhea, but not by a large margin
@@Naharu.
What?
Jack Horner is such a fun parody of greedy, vile, shallow corporate Disney that he is what SHOULD have been the big bad of a Disney100 celebration movie.
Honestly, I know that Puss in Boots 2 came out first but it perfectly fits the parody angle of Disney when compared to wish. They have as opposite of messages as you can get, in Puss in Boots 2 it’s you don’t need to wish upon a star you’ve already got what you’re looking for, while in Wish it’s EVERYONE should have their wish granted. That’s just really funny to me!!!
Between Asha overthrowing a king for not giving away more free stuff than he already did, and Ant Man being shamed by his daughter for retiring after he helped take down Thanos and save the freaking world, Disney has been advocating some really weird morals lately, haven't they?
'Ant Man being shamed by his daughter for retiring after he helped take down Thanos and save the freaking world'
Hey, no need to lie now... Ant Man didn't retire, he starts the movie saying 'I will be there if the Avengers need me. In the mean time, I want to focus on helping inspire people and reconnecting with my daughter who's been recasted as an ungreatfull asshole'.
I 100% believe Wish was written by AI
Don't forget Raya and the Last Dragon where the moral is to always trust people, even when they stab you in the back and it leads to the destruction of the world as you know it. Just trust people who clearly have their finger on the trigger of a crossbow, and maybe at the 11th hour they'll come around.
*And it's all by design too.* They're literally advocating for asking for more than you already have. They're teaching us to be ungrateful little bastards in order to keep feeding them the greed that they have been cultivating for years on end now. They're brainwashing us into becoming pro-capitalist, where greed is the true ruler of society, not the President.
Don't forget Wanda Vision. If you hold an entire town hostage, forcing an entire population to live out your fantasy, and they can only do anything as long as you permit it. They should be a bit more understanding if you give up your imaginary kids you had for a week to set them free from you.
The saddest part is, this is going to be Disney’s last foreseeable original animated film for the time being. All the movies they have lined up for later on are all sequels to existing films. It’s almost like they’ve given up.
They are gonna fail
We have returned to the dark age of Disney. Only now, it goes to Disney Plus instead of DVD
There's Elio and an unknown, but presumably original, Pixar film on the docket. And, if you were running an animation studio, wouldn't you back off original films for a bit if you have so few non-sequel ideas that THIS is what you scrape off your shoe?
@@Volvagia1927 I don't think it's the idea of no ideas. Creatives are willing to do something major and different. However, businessmen, who are not that good at business or creativity, interfere and ruin what could be amazing
@@Volvagia1927 Those are Pixar films, though - they seem to be only studio they currently have any faith in for creating original content.
Given how the main studio’s sequels have generally been received, I dunno…
The most generic, underwhelming way to celebrate 100 years of Disney. The worst part is, they cut out so many great ideas from the final version.(the star being humanoid and Asha's love interest, "At All Costs" being a love song between the two, Magnifico and the Queen being an evil couple, etc.) This could've been so much better.
I keep seeing people say the deleted concepts would have been better. Why?
The original concepts were so much better! Unfortunately Disney execs can’t let the creative teams get anything done and we get deprived of anything new :/
@@ConnorCreed3 Because they would have been.
It feels like Disney is allergic to unique in this day and age.
But maybe they were too scared to take risks, which is why it turned out too safe.
I am so angry that professional writers wrote "Watch out world, here I are" and were like, okay
I'm glad I watched the movie dubbed in german because they fixed a lot of these awkward lyrics.
I still can’t get over that dumbass lyric.
Or the fact that the lyrics were written by someone who wrote songs for Justin Bieber.
I guess they’re just animals who don’t speak quite right
@@BahuschBahusch Same, its one of the few movies I prefer in German. Usually the english version sounds better, but these lyrics are horrendous.
ikr?? that frgn line threw me off so abruptly lmao
*Asha:* "You have to grant everyone's wish!"
*Magnifico:* "Okay...What if someone wished for the end of the World?"
*Asha:* "W...Why would someone wish for that?"
*Magnifico:* "Oh, you sweet, summer child."
Well, someone actually could actually wish rule the world as the next Hitler, so Magnifico would have a good point (he was more “hero” material than Asha).
Remember what Prismo told Jake about granting wishes?
Exactly..Not all wishes should be granted. What if someone’s wish was so dangerous and straight up illegal. Like..is this girl for real..She would allow crime to take place.
Except Asha never said that. People keep to say Asha wanted for every wish being magically fulfilled, when all what she wanted was for Magnifico to return the wishes he didn't mean to fulfill in opposite to let the people void of their essence. She wanted for him not judging by himself what wish was good and what wish was bad according his paranoid suppositions, but to give them a chance to try to fulfill them by themselves without magic. Heck, they explicitly said Asha's friend become lethargic after to give his wish to Magnifico. And all the theories about destroy the world and being Hitler are just pretentious and petty considering the argument began on a wish that is nothing like that.
@@FrancescaAkira89People gave up their wishes WILLINGLY. It’s not like he’s stealing them, took them by force or hid the fact that he took them for good. It’s the same as telling bookmaker he has to give people their money back after they lost their bets, so they can spend it on something actually useful.
My idea for a simple fix for the Magnifico arc:
Make his wish-granting magic come from another wishing star that he absorbed. It was indiscriminately granting wishes and was thus the source of the kingdom's past calamity that he stopped.
Other changes follow sensibly from that: The calamity is why he's so careful about which wishes he grants: he's seen what can happen otherwise (have the absorbed star give him no direct control over how a wish truly manifests once granted). He keeps the wishes instead of returning them (he still sees the value people place in them, so he does still protect them) in order to stop people from wishing on stars and potentially summoning another one to earth.
He used the dark magic book to absorb the star the first time. He resisted its corrupting influence because his motives were pure and his mind was clear. This time, fear and paranoia about a new star, and his anger at his citizens' entitlement gave the corruption an inroad, turning him dark (a villain that needs saving, not just defeating).
I think that would have really helped the worldbuilding, added depth to the character, and tuned up the message to be about not relying on magic or miraculous wishes to achieve your dreams (not a fan of the "just keep wishing" message of the actual movie).
Gotta say this is definitely top three of the spins on the og concept I've seen, I adore this
That sound a lot better than what we got in the actual movie.
I know it's just so crazy that he wasn't a redeemable villain...the set up was right there. They just forced it to be something else for flimsy reasons. I beleive him as a redeemable villian more than the volcano god in Moana tbh.
That "just keep wishing" line annoyed me like the Jem movie annoyed Jem cartoon fans
@@iateyursandwiches He was more redeemable than Abuela from Encanto, that woman exploded her whole family, she didn't even care if her son was still alive, she blamed her granddaughter about the lost and confidence from the family, she wanted to force her other granddauther to get marriage with a man that she didn't like him in order to get more grandsons with gifts, she favored her over the other ones, for not mention that Abuela demanding Isabela that she must be perfect. And despite all of these things, Abuela get a redemption arc after all. So Disney tells you that "being careful with the wishes is bad ? But year of abuse, gaslighting and exploitation are not so badly things?
"I granted 14 wishes last year, come on that's a high percent!"
Yes. It is, actually, that sounds freaking excessive, and you SHOULD be granting less.
I think one wish per month would be a pretty good system.
@larezabyrd6509You also have wishes like every human grow taste buds within the butt.
Maybe… maybe some were.. make a wish kids..
@@OceWhat12345 you had to do it huh, you couldn't help yourself huh, you just had to grant this mental image to people huh? XD
@@Naharu. yeah, and the fact it’s 14 not 12 means he granted 2 EXTRA ONES
I really liked the idea you had of the king becoming the villain then having a redemption arc. Villains who turn good is one of my favourite tropes of all time as it adds a complexity to the morality of the character and shows them considering multiple sides.
Hey, king.
Yo, Strider!
Love you @Phantomstrider!
Love you @Phantomstrider
Aw thanks for the nice comments 😀 Best wishes!
The fact that this was supposed to celebrate 100 years of Disney is what makes it especially incredibly insulting.
Insulting?
Seriously, I think _Enchanted_ is the love letter to Disney that's actually a good story.
@@dylansharp8471 They thought we would just swallow this crap and praise them. Yeah thats insulting.
Yup. I don't really mind too much seing Disney make lackluster or straight up bad movies in general. I had a great time with Disney, and it is a bit sad to see it descent, but I can let go and move on.
But when they make something that's advertised as a celebration of 100 years of Disney, and they not only spit out something of this quality, but then also have it practically promote ideals that I frankly consider toxic while villainizing a fairly reasonable take, I just can't help but be insulted.
Tl;dr: I don't care if they drag the Disney name through the mud going forward, but don't smear mud on it when looking back.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 I agree! Enchanted is underrated! Haven't seen the sequel but I've heard it pales in comparison to the original
This movie clearly deserves a FanScription episode:
*"What If We Make "WISH" Really Good?".*
The original version with the evil couple and starboy.
@@Nio744that or Magnifico starts as the good guy, but becomes the bad guy, then the good guy again.
Woah buddy, let's not expect the impossible here. It should be "What if We Make WISH Okay?"
theres one problem.... EVERYONE IN RUclips is already doing that
The worst part is that it is actually easy! Make Magnifico initially look like bad guy, when Asha gain power of creature capable of granting wishes. She try throw rebellion against king and then everything goes shit. In the end she need grow up and understand why granting every with is actually horrible idea and that star is actually evil demon. Against who Magnifico was standing for. Could work as meta commentary about fandom, which is greedy and actually ruin the art. But no!
If you think about it, the first Kingdom Hearts is a better celebration of Disney than the movie Disney themselves made. The main character is legitimately a good combo of several iconic Disney protagonists, the worlds are from iconic films, and even the villain is more like an actual Disney villain, even with all his anime mumbojumbo.
Yes 🙌 your so right dude ✊🏻
Holy crap, that’s what they should’ve done as the thing Critic was mentioning about a bunch of characters from different movies. Get with Square again and just make a KH movie
I just hope when KH4 comes out we'll still have Disney planets to explore, like Zootopia, Moana, Finding Nemo, and/or Wall-E. Maybe even Brother Bear.
@@dreamguardian8320 as opposed to, Warner Bros? Or you mean like just Disney animated type world
Kingdom Hearts is a literal perfect Disney world. It throws you in as. Protagonist into your favourite Disney films reinact your favourite parts of the films.
Disney: We promise to give you an old school villain, just like the ones you used to love.
Also Disney: Gives “villain” reasonable backstory, logical reason to run the kingdom, and then force him to be evil when the protagonist acts more selfish than he does.
Classic Disney 😒
This is the main reason why you died at your 100th Anniversary Disney.
And you brought and did that to yourself.
Well… after having 2 phases of going through twist villains and then no villains, it’s at least some sort of progress. Not much, but at least we’re SLOWLY starting to get back to the traditional Disney villains.
@@hunterolaughlin Rather they stick with having no villains than whatever the hell King Magnifico was.
Except not that last part. The protagonist was asking reasonable questions for why he doesn't give back the "will never grant with magic" wishes to their owners, and he acted like a spiteful, entitled ass about it.
@@hunterolaughlin at least encanto is still better than wish, and wish is a little better than the mid tier garbage that was strange world but not by much
What gets me is that when they look through Magnifico's magic book, they try to see if there's a way to "save him" from the dark magic, they specifically say that once it's unleashed, he can't be saved from it. This implies that his wife still thinks he's a good person deep down and wants to help him, but then at the end when he's trapped in the mirror, she acts like he was always evil and decides he must be punished. So, which is it, is he supposed to be a classic Disney Villain who is just evil and loves it, or is he a tragic character who was corrupted? Either this was written by AI or two different people wrote the first and last halves of the film.
I'm going with the latter, as this film seems to have had too many cooks (executives) in the kitchen.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528Too Many Cooks!
Also. True loves kiss breaks every curse according to disney lore. I guess the queen didnt love him for real since she didnt even attempt to try
Why didn't the Queen simply wish for her husband to not be evil anymore
@@mceky89 Apparently that's not how wishing works in Rosas; Star is said to not explicitly grant wishes straightaway but helps people achieve them. Wishing is powerful enough en masse to banish Magnifico but apparently it can't purify him.
Though as others have pointed out, how do we know the evil book isn't lying?
It is very strange to see a Disney movie where the "bad guy" is obviously not a bad guy and the "good guy" is actually the bad guy.
Kinda reminds me of Wreck it Ralph in a way
Ralph: the "bad guy" who's not a bad guy at heart
King Candy: a "good guy" who's truly a bad guy
Yep.
Which is why I think Wish should've had a villain protagonist.
An underwhelming film to celebrate 100 years of Disney
A disney movie off wish is called wish how funny
Should’ve been 2D all the way.
I wished this movie never existed
I remember hearing something about thoughts for a Kingdom Hearts movie instead with Sora visiting all the classic movies. its own Spiderverse with the characters hopping world to world across dimensions. but due to legal reasons with SquareEnix, they decided not to.
That would have been one hundred times better than what we got. one idea I would have loved to have seen is the art style of the movie changing to whatever world Sora entered. classic hand drawn 2D when Sora enters a world like Alice in Wonderland or Cinderella, then 3D when he enters Wreck-It-Ralph and Frozen. it would have really shown Disney's animation evolution over the generations. there's so many reasons this would have been better than WISH.
I think that the Once Upon a Studio was a much better milestone celebration to Disney.
Fun Fact: This movie was originally Wish was going to be a hand drawn animated feature, but wasn’t because they felt there were some limitations to it and decided to try and blend both 2D and 3d animation. But you know what’s ironic? The Boy and the heron came out the same year. Not only it was more successful critically and financially, but it was also a major award winner. All while sticking to their formula while still prioritizing the story and it was hand drawn. Something this movie failed to do.
90's Disney films had CGI integrated in them, but I guess doing what they did in 90's and 2000's animated films is too out of reach now.
Disney could easily tower over the profits in live action remakes and CGI films if they released another fully 2D classic style animated film and they know it. What merch is still wildly successful DECADES after release?? Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty- these films from the 90s, 60s, 30s are still being cherished after 100 years yet Disney still actively snubs what made them a household name. They not only ignore what people are begging for, but double if not triple down on repeated failures then insist it was successful or that its just crybabies on the internet being "haters".
Disney's 2D movies helped make them a household name and push the art of animation to new lengths than before with each release from their first film Snow White and the seven dwarfs in 1937 to the movies of the 2000's like Treasure planet & Lilo and Stitch yet nowadays it's like a full length 2D movie is box office posion to them it's not like 3D movies can't be good rather they can be very good like Moana & Zootopia yet it's 2D animaion that started everything for them and to not cherish that it's sad to see. A least the short films espeslply Once upon a studio offer us the thing we like the most from them.
It's because that in the late 90's, 2D animators unionized... So now when you hire 2D animators in Hollywood, you actually have to treat them decently and give them good payment and vacation time and stuff.
3D animators, however, are free game! You can absolutely exploit those, give them inhumane working hours, change things last minute they have to re-animate under a crunch, under pay them and then just fire them with no precaution the moment the production is over and done with, just bringing in a new team on the never ending conveyor belt, cause we don't lack young passionate people that desperately want to be animators for Disney.... Disney is sure to kill their passion real quick though! And replace them after their souls has been crushed! Over and done with.
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Ah, but hand drawn animators are unionized, can't have that!
Asha: everyone's wish should be granted.
Jack Horner: I wish to have all the magic in the world, leaving none of it for no-one else.
Everyone: pauses and doesn't respond.
9:12 rule 1: you cannot make someone fall in love with you.
Rule 2: you cannot kill anyone.
Rule 3: you cannot bring someone back from the dead. It's not a pretty picture. AND I DON'T LIKE DOING IT!
So Genie, you can bring people back from the dead but you just don’t liking doing it, huh? 😏
@@hunterolaughlin Shrenron from Dragon ball can do that
And no wishing for more wishes
@@hunterolaughlin more like he can but it not turned out so well he brought back the person to life the body on the other hand was a walking corpse.
@Depth217 Because that would be redundant. Can you say redundant?
1. Make asha the princess daughter of magifico
2. Make the star more human like in the concept art and build a romance between asha and star
3. Hire broadway writers not pop music writers
4. Magnifico says "he got these geenes from outer space" so have it turn out he's keeping a star he wished on and bleeding it for his magic
It’s ironic that Julia Michaels was the songwriter when previously in Ralph Breaks the Internet, an extremely sanitized and lame corporate produce as well, she did the “cool” pop cover of the Slaughter Race song for the end credits that was another corporate product.
(Okay I admit I DID like her pop cover but point still stands)
One of the parts that confuses me the most, when Asha questions Magnifico, is the fact that part of her job seems to consist precisely of explaining the rules of the city to newcomers.
But at that point she didn't know he was choosy about which wishes to grant, and more specifically that he wasn't going to grant HER relative's wish. She apparently had no reason to think about things like that...which makes her look rather self-centered.
@@roristevens2810 You have a good point; The curious thing for me is that just with the explanation she provides at the beginning of the film, it is vastly clear that the vast majority of the city's inhabitants would never see their wishes fulfilled, regardless of the system that Magnifico used to choose which ones were appropriate and which ones. No.
@@juanprada4410 Oh yeah, the math doesn't add up and there's no indication that anyone else in the land has considered this either. Or they HAVE but don't mind. Asha's opening narration does assume that the wishes of particularly good people are the ones granted, but even then, given we're never shown legit bad wishes...
I thought his answers of "Usually, people wait a few months after getting the job to ask me a favour"and "it's too vague"were pretty fair.
The critic keep flirting with the real issue with the whole wishing system, but never really gets to the heart of it, which is that Magnifico is RIGHT. The writers had to go out of their way to create a literally perfect world where no one has any bad wishes, and the "worst" wish they could show was "wanting to inspire the next generation" where they have to SHOW VISUALLY that they literally mean him playing the guitar, just to make SURE that no one could interpret Magnifico as being right.
Also, just as a side note, the people of Rosas have to give up their wishes when they turn 18, so her grandpa decided prior to being 18 that his greatest wish in life is "to inspire the next generation"?? What literal child thinks that?
I feel like they realized he had a point and went to make him an asshole so nobody would be on his side. And Asha really comes across as a reactionary and unintentionally power hungry
The plot trying to make Magnifico the villain is dumb, but he is younger than the grandpa. He would've begun granting wishes by the time Asha's grandpa was older than 18. It's also their choice to give up their wish.
@@emilybrinkerhoff6825Ehhh, it’s a bit dubious there. Everyone over 18 is legally obligated to give their wish to Magnifico if they want to live in Rosas.
Precisely!
@@DuelaDent52 I'm trying to remember, is there a line where they say it's obligatory? All I remember hearing is that they "get" to give their wish. I've only watched it twice though so I might've missed something.
Once upon the studio was definitely the better celebration gift for disney’s 100th year anniversary.
I completely agree.
@@ericasutton3147it’s sad yet hilarious that the short was a better celebration than the full theatrical movie that cost millions of dollars to make
I 100% agree. This just feels so soulless and devoid of passion.
@@millerkarageanes1562agreed. I legit almost cried when I watched once upon a studio
That concept should have been the 100th Anniversary film. My guess was it originally was but the cost to hand draw everything would have been far to much.
I hate the fact that for the past... I don't know, decade or two, we had people complain about how past Disney movies say wishing on a star promotes the idea of laziness and complacency. And Princess and the Frog tackled that idea by showcasing that it's not wrong to wish and believe WHILE working hard. Sometimes life isn't fair, but you can still find value in life. She still gets her restaurant in the end, but they've been rather good at showing the lesson about living life being happy with or without dreams coming true before that part.
But this movie had a bunch of people not even trying to hone their skills after so many years and just relied on Magnifico for everything? And once Asha became the official wish granter, suddenly it's okay and nobody has to try to gain skills or seek knowledge for themselves because she can just grant them without question?
Wish had this GREAT idea about a heroine wanting to extend a helping hand in a fantastical journey. This could've been a wonderful story about a girl's desire to give back to the community with love and compassion in a magical way with a villain showing the dark side of that life. (Granted, I still prefer the OG concept before the script-scrap but I'm trying to say that's what they could've done as well)
But everything that she did came from entitlement and narrow-minded thinking without any consequence of what granting every wish could bring and THAT would've been a good lesson for her to learn but nope. She gets everything and never gets called into question. THE END.
(You guys have no *idea* how much I wanted an origin story about a fairy godmother and DIsney took that idea and spat it out like a chewed up wadded spit ball)
"If you really want something, don't wish for it to happen, make it happen!"
Jay, ninja of lightning, 2016.
Oh my God, yes! I've been dying to bring up what you've said but couldn't find the right words. Plenty of other movies and shows have given us the pros and cons when it comes to wishing for something. Even Disney's past movies showed many protagonists wish for things, but at the same time, they don't just sit around waiting for it to come true. They work, go about their lives, and when presented with that dream, they know it's their job to follow through and make the best out of it; Cinderella with going to the ball to have fun, Aladdin believing Jasmine would never give him a chance unless he was royalty, Pinocchio learning to be human, Tiana wanting to own her own restaurant, ect. Even showing the dangers of wishing like how greedy Jafar was, Naveen wants things the easy way and how wishing comes with a price.
Even assisting a wish come true can have consequences. Like in Sabrina the Teenage Witch explains the outcome of extending a helping hand at wishing. How Sabrina tried to assist three people, despite being warned that humans don't always know what they want. Things went south, and she fixed things as best as she could.
This movie had potential but the end result was mediocre.
3:43 How can a DreamWorks sequel 11 years in the making, based on a Shrek spinoff character, have a better Wish movie than Disney's 100-year anniversary?
What's even crazier is that looking at the deleted scenes, concept and then The Last Wish itself. It felt like they were genuinely inspired by DreamWorks and wanted to create a movie as great as they did. Like Jack Horner turning giant, the race to the Star, developing romance, a great catchy song (At All Costs) different takes on how wishes work, an actual funny talking animal sidekick.
But after all the changes, it doesn't feel like anything....
@@RascalEntertainments I subscribe to the theory of Disney committing plagiarism against their rival company
Not just better. Completely steamrolled imo.
12:37 To be fair, the sloth scene from Zootopia is genuinely funny.
It works for kids because the sloths being slow, Judy’s aggravation, and Nick enjoying every moment of it are hilarious. It also works for adults because the sloth scene is a satire of the actual DMV and how notoriously slow and inefficient they are. And Judy and Nick meeting with Flash is how a lot of people feel when they’re dealing with the DMV. All in all, it’s what I consider one of the funniest scenes in any Disney movie.
The scene from Wish with the goat and the chickens on the other hand? That’s clearly just pandering to 5-year olds. In fact, you could probably describe the entire movie that way. That’s a shame because I really wanted this movie to be good.
I agree. It is pretty funny. But making fun of the DMV is a bit overplayed these days and the joke is almost always centered around how frustratingly slow it is. I mean, a very similar joke was made by Looney Tunes ages ago, but with turtles.
Plus, Judy is a much better role model than Asha!
@@vetarlittorf1807 It's okay to just play the hits sometimes. No need to try and innovate every single time.
I don't think even five-year-olds would be entertained by pointless dancing chickens.
Gotta admire that you also describe how many layers there are to the scene and why it works.
Judy is in a hurry because she is on a real-time crunge. This has been established, she only has 24 hours, that's why she is in such a hurry.
Nick is the hostage of Judy in this moment, he doesn't even wanna be there, so to see his hostage taker being so frustrated is awesome for him. And he is being kind of a jerk, but it is also justified why he is a jerk, so we don't hate him for it.
The sloth is just there to do his job, and so is oblivious to the dynamic going on in front of him and is actually being very pleasant, which makes it so hard for Judy because the sloth isn't doing anything wrong, and she doesn't wanna be a jerk, we know she's a nice person who cares A LOT about decency and being nice to others.
Nick uses this to his full advantage. Because again... From his perspective at this moment, he is her hostage and there against his will, so he's actively working against her to rebel.
There are so many layers here, so many elements that lead up to this scene and this situation that make it work so well.
Having random dancing chickens for no reason at all... Doesn't work... Sometimes you need to put work in to earn the scene and earn the joke. The sloth scene was a culmination of so many things established before making the scene work.
We had a long fan discussion on “How would you have given this movie an actual PLOT?”, and the main consensus was “Weren’t you expecting Star to actually do something in the movie?”
Y’know, like go around uncontrollably granting everyone’s wishes in town at once, causing chaos that Asha and the Scooby gang have to stop, and once everyone sees what their wishes are, they learn to work together, and even Mags develops an actual understanding personality?
This movie was basically the “Krabbyland” of Disney Movies
Or that terrible Willy Wonka experience. Which is kind of like the opening skit now that I think about it.
Edit: never mind, they actually reference that. Shot my shot too early again.
@@AlwaysAskingDobojite The movie was basically "we have a disney movie at home"
Except that at least people got _something_ decent out of Krabbyland. Here, it's just nothing but disgusting lies and the disappointment of being betrayed by your designated heroes.
@@nevaehhamilton3493 I mean between watching Wish vs being entertained for hours by SpongeBob followed by a disappointing clown, but also with the best burgers in town?
Yeah, easy call.
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What the hell are you talking about?
The movie would have worked better if disney understood that the protagonists are not always the heroes. Asha beign an entitled brat determined to usurp magnifico and the latter redeming her would haveade quite the story!
The Fairly OddParents in School’s Out The Musical more or less got something like that where the protagonist Timmy Turner is wrong and the antagonist Flappy Bob is differently wrong so they both have to learn a lesson
Asha really does come off as a reactionary and unintentionally power hungry
"That's too interesting, let's just make the most boring movie for the 100th year" ~ Disney Execs
@@matityaloran9157 How far we've fallen from the days of nuance. I mean Timmy was wrong by going to one extreme and Flappy Bob was wrong going to the other extreme.
@@muigokublack6487 Yep
I never saw the movie, but did they ever go over the message of "Stop wishing for things and go out and make your dream come true"?
That would make the most sense to me for a plot like this, where the villain has this set up as a way to keep his subjects complacent
Side note, would have been a perfect way to introduce kingdom hearts as a concept. Like these are all stories that people wished into existence
I was also expecting them to have that message. However, the movie states that when they give up their wishes, they completely forget them, thus they can't even work on them without Magnifico randomly choosing to grant them since they forgot what they gave him in the first place.
If the sequel is Just straight up Kingdom Hearts the movie I’ll forgive them
The plot would actually make more sense and be more well developed then this
Actually they kind of did.
Instead they made Kingdom FARTS!
A kingdom hearts movie would be crazy
I wish that they'd had the Queen be an antagonist, alongside her husband, as was originally planned. It would have been interesting to see a villainous couple, and her being good wasn't explored much.
Wasn’t the star also supposed to be Asha’s love interest, too?
There were so many missed opportunities!
I feel like Old-School Pixar would've told a story of a once-noble king who gradually became corrupted after decades of having to weigh and sort people's assorted wishes based on their potential outcomes, and Asha learning that not all wishes could or should be granted *without* becoming cynical and corrupt like the king.
Someone on youtube has been uploading leaked concept storyboards of the previous draft and the king and queen come off as so much more entertaining and animated. We were robbed of a killer villain couple.
@@AJ-xc4qe yes.
@@AJ-xc4qeI think I like the idea of the queen being evil more than the idea of the star being the love interest
20:30 - 20:40 - to be fair, 'all animals are equal but some are more equal than others' sums up the reality of the Disney ethos pretty well.
That’s the “utopian metropolis” the sheep is going to get if Asha grants him his wish. He was pretty annoying.
I always explained that the reason Goofy is anthro and Pluto is a "regular" dog is because their franchise takes place in a post Animal Farm universe lol
The fact they thought the seven dwarves were a diverse group of normal height people pretty much says what went wrong right there
Well I wouldn't say all of them are normal height, lol
They’re supposed to be a reference, not a copy and paste.
@@Dennis-nc3vw and it's a very poor reference. I actually had to be told that's who they were
*Once Upon a Studio* is the true gift from Disney's 100th anniversary.
Wish was an afterthought.
Agreed!
100%
You hit the nail right on the head
They really should have made Once Upon a Studio a full-length movie to celebrate the anniversary.
Maybe the plot could be about an intern at Disney who aspires to be an animator but struggles with a block and fear of rejection as Disney's most iconic characters help to inspire him to reach for the stars by teaching him everything Walt stood for like innovation, ambition, creativity, hard work etc.
@@vetarlittorf1807
That’s perfect.
“Instead of reminding us you’re the company that made ‘Snow White,’ how about you ACT like you’re the company that made ‘Snow White.’”
Basically everything we’ve been screaming at Disney for the past five years. But they’re too busy sniffing Bob Iger’s farts to give a damn.
I feel like I've been saying it since they made the 2006 Disney logo, stopped making 2D hand-drawn animated movies, & aired Hannah Montana & the other bad live-action teen drama sitcoms.
Bullshit.
Iger or Chapek? I'm curious when this project started production when either one was in charge honestly.
@@dylansharp8471 What's bull crap?
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 Technically started probably around 2019 or 2020, under Chapek. Disney has late 2026 releases already on the release schedule now, but it's in the writing stage way before then.
Let's say the "wishing ceremony" was a bit more nuanced. Magnifico checks everyone's wishes, and if it's something mundane or whimsical, he just leaves it to you. If it's something exceptionally noble, then, once in a while, he will grant it. And SOME wishes he takes away and makes people forget about them. He claims those wishes are dangerous. Kinda like "Minority Report" - curb the crime before it happens. And, well, it seems to work - the kingdom has far less crime than others. But as a downside, people whose wishes were taken away are shunned by the society. Magnifico himself is against that - he keeps reminding everyone that the "dewished" people are completely safe, but it doesn't help. After all, if your wish was deemed dangerous enough (even if it happened years ago), then there must be something wrong with you, right? It doesn't help that Magnifico doesn't tell anyone what those supposedly dangerous wishes were - he thinks it would be embarrassing for the dewished. In the end he just sees this as a necessary evil.
And THAT'S Asha's motivation. Her grandfather was dewished and was treated with suspicion because of that his entire life, maybe it has even ruined some opportunities for him. But Asha knows him as sweet and kind and doesn't believe he could've possible wished for anything THAT bad. Finally, she feels the need to know for sure. She goes to Magnifico and demands to see her grandfather's wish. He refuses, she sneaks in anyway, and sees that it (and in fact most banned wishes) are actually something mildly subversive, but not nearly to the kingdom-threatening level, and dewished didn't deserve to have their life ruined for it. She demands that Magnifico fixes it, but he refuses, because even if his judgement is fallible, he cannot admit it or else the whole system collapses, and the system works! In general. For most people. Even if some suffer from it.
NOW both sides have a point and we have a meaningful dilemma.
Holy shit that’s a good idea
That is a good idea. Unfortunately, Disney is allergic to those. There was a lot of potential in the concept, but it was executed incredibly poorly in the actual film. We're supposed to see Magnifico as the bad guy, but he created a utopia where everyone is happy.
As you point out, taking the wishes of evil people has the benefit of preventing evil acts. It also makes sense that Magnifico would be concerned about this because his family was killed, and he founded Rosas so something like that would never happen again. It could for make an interesting conversation about freedom versus security. Instead, we got something where I literally don't even know what it is trying to say.
Ash: grant my wish to help my family member to become a
Great musician
Magnifico: no because it can be a threat
Asha: you are a villain and I’m going to dethrone you
And ironically that wish.. caused the villian to fail...
How does wishing to be a great musician a threat ? That seems like an excuse to NOT grant the wish as the whole vagueness is a lazy reason as Shrenron while doesnt grant every thing wish explains better like cant bring the dead back to life if it's a nature death then murder
@@nicholassims9837
That was not the wish!
He did not seek to become a great musician, he wanted his music to have profound effect on people, ergo inspire!
That is literaly a form of mind control a very dangerous one if it lacked control which would have been the case.
@@Raximus3000 real mind control is the forcing Love being a good singer is not going to cause anyone to lash out as he isnt a siren , also the fact that Magincfio didnt even bother to help in a different way like give Asha grandfather singing lessons doesn't put him in a good light. As what's wrong with wishing someone happy ?
Grandpa wanted to be an inspiring street musician. King said he could inspire the people to rise up against him… but at the time he’s not given any reason for the people to rise up against him.
"A hero who becomes the villain who becomes the hero again." Thank you for that idea, Nostalgia Critic, that would be a brilliant thing to watch and truly something that hasn't been done before by Disney - at least not in that form. The closest they got was Kenai from Brother Bear, though that film was far more dedicated to the process of his redemption than the process of his corruption. Nowadays Disney seems to be stuck on the "generational conflict" trope and is refusing to move on, so here are some more ideas - of course all of these have been done before, but I would love to see Disney do them in new ways:
1. The main character is a morally grey trickster whose actions change the people around him/her, but not him/herself.
2. The main character is a coward who learns to show courage.
3. The main character is a stiff official/bureaucrat who learns to loosen up.
4. The main character is an ideologue who has to sacrifice or question their ideology.
5. The main character is a bully who learns to become kind.
6. The main character is a fearful and misanthropic loner who learns to connect with people.
7. Two main characters, one incredibly proud and the other with low self-esteem, learn from each other.
8. The main character loves and idolises a person at first sight, learns their love interest is not who they thought they were, then develops a far healthier kind of love for them (anti-Frozen).
9. The main character relies on others too much and learns to do things for themselves.
10. The main character is a tired warrior who feels responsible to solve all the world's problems, and eventually learns that they deserve peace and quiet for themselves even if the world will never be perfect.
emperors new groove?
@@blacktainfalcon7097 Ohhh, interesting! I haven't seen that one yet but I plan to!
Didn’t Dreamworks kind of do something like that with Megamind?
Main character starts out wanting to do good so he can be accepted, but realizes he’s better off being bad and embraces it, but then later in the film he becomes the good guy?
@@TheDragonman104 I don’t think that really counts. I think they meant more of like a Shakespearean tragedy or Walter White style story. A story where the the main character starts out as a nice, heroic good guy but gets progressively more and more evil to the point where by the end they’ve turned into a full on villain. Kinda similar to what happened with Hal in Megamind, except done with the main protagonist.
@@misterslick2693 They literally said, “Who becomes the hero again”. There was never any mention of having the character die like in a Shakespeare tragedy.
7:26 either Magnifico granted extra wishes thus breaking his own concept of monthly ceremony and lowering the whole movie’s stakes altogether, because he can grant as many wishes as he likes that day of the month-
or Rosas is such a magical place, a year there lasts 425 days.
The math ain’t mathing
I was wondering about this! And remembered Asha’s friend saying that the king also always grants the wishes of his apprentice’s family as well. So I guess he gets a new apprentice every year maybe?
@@sereiatiger the real question here is what even is the point of having apprentices when you wrote it in the *law* that you’re the only one authorized to use magic? :D , so they can go home, and do nothing with that knowledge? Is it for the wish lotto entirely, for the paycheck, for the glory? We’ll never know
Finding a ‘successor’ for a greying Chris Pine would’ve made much more sense tbh
I think he can grant as many wishes as he wants, he just doesn't. Which is why our alleged protagonist gets mad at him.
@sarcasticdude2320Hulk performed 400 days in Japan and the USA dude. He's just that guy.
The worst part about this is the missed potential.
Have Magnifico represent totally, cynical control, thinking only about pragmatism. Not evil, but making a world where things work, but with no lustre, no joy, just efficiency.
Then have the wishing Star be a being pure chaos, any whim and desire granted, which can be fun, sure, but not all people wish for good things, or too many of these wishes conflict and start ripping reality apart as the world succumbs to total chaos.
You could have a nice message, that you need to dream to enjoy life, but you also can’t live off whimsy alone, you need to compromise between controlled cynicism and chaotic whimsy if you want to actual attain long-standing joy in your life.
That could have been a cool movie! It’s a unique and important message to give to kids, that life is hard but you always need to care for it to matter. But instead we just got nothing.
"You could have a nice message, that you need to dream to enjoy life, but you also can’t live off whimsy alone, you need to compromise between controlled cynicism and chaotic whimsy if you want to actual attain long-standing joy in your life."... so like Disneys Princess and the Frog? Where our two protagonists bounce off each other and one learns to unwind once in a while and the other learns to take on responsibilities?
So, the Lego movie, with Lord Business's city vs Cloud cuckoo land?
WB did that 10 years ago and people are still complaining why that movie did not get a best animated movie Oscar nomination
Disney is soooo creatively dead
I agree with what you say it’s one of many examples of how this film could’ve been way better, PS Life doesn’t have to be yard, life can be easier if we rethought how we lived or lives, and we TAX one percent of the world way more that would make our lives a lot easier.
@@jordanread5829 that’s legit one of my favourite films.
Magnifico was right. some are too vague and some can lead to disaster, so Asha being upset that some need to be ungranted makes no sense- he even tells her the reasons why!
But that's not the problem she has with him. The problem she has is that he arbitrarily makes that decision while misleading the population into thinking they all have a chance, and that if he thinks a wish is ungrantable he should just give them back because he thinks that people are *incapable* of granting their own wishes
@@garulia17 So by that logic, lottery tickets are evil?
@@TheGodlikeDragon That doesn't even make sense, but you do you
@@garulia17 Critic just used the same example. These people gives their wishes and only once a month a wish is granted. It makes sense that there are some wishes that are not granted, considering that they say more people join the city. Not to mention how many more people are born. It is literally said in the story in the beginning of the movie, that making them forget the wish is to make sure they can still live happily in the kingdom even with the knowledge their wish was never granted. They give their wish for a chance to have it granted, a lottery ticket is bought with a chance to win. It goes by the same logic, and not to mention that he only took the wish away and not their ability to make a wish. Hell, now that I think about it. How do you know that there are not multiple wishes made by the same person floating in his tower?
@@garulia171 it's his kingdom and his magic
He didn't want to be a king at first , he just build a home for himself that other people started arriving and asking him to live there too
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't both Brave and Aladdin examples of what can go wrong when wishes are too vague? Aladdin uses it to take down Jafar and it's Brave's whole plot.
Did Disney just forget that bit? How is Magnifico unreasonable here?
The problem isn’t that Magnifico doesn’t grant the wishes, it’s that people don’t know what they’re missing and deserve to be able to pursue their wishes under their own power which they can’t do because they literally don’t remember it.
@@DuelaDent52 but he told them that's how it works just write it down you morons wait does noone tell there friends or family what there gonna wish for
The fact that many people liked Leo, an Adam Sandler movie more than a Disney film for it's 100th anniversary I might add, that shows you how far Disney has fallen
Leo’s pretty good, actually
I remember people doing videos on comparing those two and as shocking as it is to say, there is no competition: Leo, a Netflix movie, is better than a multi-million dollar Disney movie. That is so sad I actually want to cry.
There was also someone comparing Wish to Hazbin Hotel regarding Animated Musicals
Also don't forget that Nimona a movie that Disney tried to cancel got an Oscar nomination while Disney got nothing
@@johnnysparklehazbin hotel has much better music
Oh, how I WISH they actually made the Star boy, like they originally planned, and did a love story between him and Asha. I honestly start to miss Disney’s animated love stories… That one could have been great, and given the plot line of Asha kinda becoming future fairy godmother more depth, as FG and the star in the sky both help other Disney lovers.
God your so right. Disney apparently thought Star would’ve been to much like Genie from Aladdin but what’s wrong with that? Maui was a good shapeshifter and worked out great!
@@Icebuerger4016 tbh that would've been interesting!!
I like Star as a mute celestial being of pure joy. The shapeshifter thing they had planned could've also worked really well but personally I'm just glad they didn't go with the Starboy + Romance route because "Starboy" would've actually taken the shape of Asha's grandfather in younger, which I am deeply uncomfortable with. At All Costs is also my favorite song on the soundtrack and I feel like if it was a love song it would not really amount to much. It would just be a long "I love you". These songs can work like Finally I See The Light in Tangled but only in the right context, as in that example Rapunzel's and Eugene's journey started out transactional but turned into a romance, with the song being the confession, whereas Star and Asha would've started out with aligning goals. I think for that song being from both the protagonist's and antagonist's point of view, singing about the same thing with the same words but with opposing viewpoints is more interesting.
Star Boy could use the Red Stone of Asha, place it upon the mask in Magic Mirror and wear that to become a vampire who can survive the Sun's light: in other words, reject his humanity and become the ultimate life form!
WRYYYYYYYYY!
[ENGLISH SUBTITLES] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - One Cartoonist's Dream 【ver VILLAINS】(Disney Medley)
@@BahuschBahusch Why are you saying Starboy WOULD have been her grandfather but younger?
That's not a necessity.
Imagine having your entire family taken away in a horrible tragedy, leaving and then learning magic, to build a kingdom where everyone gets along. Only for some teenager to rip it all apart and then trap you in a mirror. What a villain origin story
@@The_Masked_0ne and your wife putting you in a dungeon
The most telling bull I have seen, ever, is the after-credits bit having the old guy play a classical guitar arrangement of "when you wish upon a star," thanking the literal star for granting his wish.
It continues unobtrusively under what would otherwise be a terribly bombastic logo.
It's real sweet of a note to end on.
So it's great that instead of the title, the subtitles on Disney Plus call it "[Disney Theme Plays]." I have never before seen something more honestly expose itself as being a product.
What are you talking about?
@@dylansharp8471 Disney Plus thinks "When You Wish Upon A Star" is called "Disney Theme Song" because it's corporate branding to them
@@dylansharp8471The subtitles don’t call it “When You Wish Upon A Star”, they just call it “Disney Theme”.
This also applies to in-TV closed captioning, not just D+ subtitles (I checked).
To quote the late great Norm Macdonald and something i'm sure Alan Tudyk might be thinking about right now is "You ever lie for no reason at all? Just all of sudden, a big lie spills out of your evil head. Like a guy will come up to you, 'Hey, did you ever see that movie with Meryl Streep and a horse?' And you go, 'Yes.' In the back of your head, you're like, 'What in the heck am I lying about over here? I stand to gain nothing by this lie'."
so what your saying is..........
im sorry what are you saying????
Is there a point?
This is the *second post* I've seen of you quoting Norm Macdonald without any relation to the video you are commenting on. At least you learned how to use quotation marks this time.
@@Rhubarb120 oh so he's just spouting bullshit, thanks for the heads up
''Why are now questioning this?''
That part annoyed me SO MUCH. Like, there was no twist on how Magnifico was; at best, him using the book as a last resort. But the problem Asha (and the others) had from the start of the film was him not granting every wish. Asha even says ''so you're saying most of this wishes AREN'T going to be granted?''. They knew that wishes are granted once a month, heck they even sing about it. They knew that they couldn't remember them, honestly the darkest part of all of this. They were fine with it a day ago until the script told them to. It felt so unnatural.
Not remembering the wish isn't really a dark part. It's kind of a win-win. You either get what you want or you stop wanting what you can't have. Imagine if any Disney villain had gone to Magnifico with their wishes. Is someone like Scar worse off for forgetting his wish to be king? Would Cruella be worse off if she forgot her wish to skin puppies? Is the Evil Queen worse off because she no longer wants to be the fairest of them all? Is Jafar worse off for no longer wanting ultimate power? Magnifico removes people's selfishness with their consent. It's a great system.
He even waits for people to turn 18 before making their wishes. If he were evil and just wanted to hoard wishes to control people, it would be a lot easier to do it while they were children, but he makes them wait 18 years to make their wishes. Everyone involved in the transaction is a fully informed, consenting adult.
18:01 I think this idea would've made a much better movie. Have Magnifico go insane or become disillusioned with the people he rules over after he witnesses a ton of evil or bad hearted dreams. Asha's role would then to remind Magnifico of the goodness in people, while also realizing herself that not everyone around her is perfect. This would culminate in the climax, with Asha, having taken Magnifico's position for a short while, grants a bunch of "bad" wishes and makes the world worse, becomes severely depressed, makes a bad wish herself, and Magnifico, having realizing that not everything is as bad as it seems, makes a good wish and returns things to normal.
If you want Magnifico to be just completely evil, just keep him insane after he witnesses all the bad wishes, or maybe he sees that his highschool crush wished to be with someone else instead of him and he got salty. I don't know. Either of these is more interesting and entertaining.
"I let you live here for free, and I don't even charge you rent." They couldn't think of better lyrics for their villain song, though Chris Pine is giving it his all.
I really feel like Chris was trying in this movie and and it kinda hurts me to tear into his character.
I'm gonna be honest, he was my favorite part of the film.
They could’ve easily changed it to “I let you live here for free, when I could always charge you rent” and be done with it
"Acting nice when she not nice"
@@Depth217 And if they carried that kind of mentality through the early Magnifico appearances, we could actually have hints to his narcissistic nature, since he's going 'i'm so nice when I could be mean' instead of 'i'm so nice just because'
"Watch out world, here I are"
Someone was paid money to write that line...
The people of this kingdom are so gullible. They’re actually better off just letting him take their wishes. Idiots with power are dangerous.
Dummies with power are scarier than smart people with power because you can guess what a smart person can do with it but a dumb person you can't predict or guess anything because they'll do anything just because they can do it no matter the cause.
Weaponized incompetence is indistinguishable from malice
The great irony is that this movie is a perfect encapsulation of how Disney is acting now. Magnifico is only granting “the safe wishes” and pushing down anything that could upset the status quo. Meanwhile Disney is only doing “the safe shows/movies” (Marvel, Star Wars) and throwing out absolute bangers like The Owl House early (there are probably more examples but I don’t remember)
What does safesl wish mean as does he only grant wishes to make someone a sandwich,?
@@nicholassims9837 I mean that sounds like the safest thing I can imagine so probably.
@@ijbdawg9 what if the wishes were small task like chores as everyone became too lazy to do any work ?
@@nicholassims9837 I mean, l guess you could, but if you only get _one_ wish to be fulfilled, do you really want to waste it on menial chores?
@@Naharu. some people are just that lazy
"In another draft, the queen was supposed to be evil too."
A FEMALE villain? In 2024? From Disney?
Haha, that's funny 😂
The star was originally supposed to be a love interest for Asha, but apparently, we can't have romance in a Disney movie anymore either. It's not like nearly all of the company's best films are all romance stories or anything.
Disney really DID forget how to Disney, didn’t it.
But something something woman don't need no man! /s
@@Achillez098yup, both the king and queen were gonna be evil, have their own song, and Asha was gonna be their daughter
What's sad that there was a leak concept of what the movie was going to be about. It was about a star becoming human the Magnifico and his wife were going to be the main villains.
A Sad Fact: This film is dedicated to Burny Mattinson, a Disney legend who died on February 27, 2023, having worked at Walt Disney Animation Studios for over 70 years.
You’re forgetting Once Upon a Studio was also dedicated to him and he made a brief appearance proper at the beginning.
@@hunterolaughlinthat was such a great tribute to him and a much more fitting 100th anniversary celebration than wish!
He's probably flipping off Disney from heaven now.
Imagine dying for a legacy that turned out to be a lie 100 years in the making? How fucked up is that?
Yeah the whole lack of bad wishes is literally something that would have broken the story. We are supposed to believe EVERYONE living in this kingdom is a GOOD person. Yeah no. One of the characters literally lusts after the king who is a married man. There is your bad wish there.
I just realized ... the people of Rosas are literally the people of Whoville in the 2000's Grinch. "I want golf clubs. I want a diamond. I want a pony, so I can ride it twice, get bored and sell it to make glue."
In the case of that particular citizen, either Magnifico should let them down gently or find a way to grant their wish on a technicality like he did with the woman who wanted to be a great seamstress.
The Mary Poppins reference accidentally suggests that child marriage is legal in Rosas - who would wish for a nanny for their kids when they were 18? (The only loophole is that that person might have been a recent immigrant, and thus considerably older.)
@@roristevens2810 Not everyone makes wishes when they are 18. When a person immigrates into Rosas they get to make a wish. Although, that is an example of a selfish/immoral wish. It would mean either poofing someone into existence to serve as a slave for this woman or brainwashing and existing person into slavery.
@@mr.histor1996 Yeah, I noted that they could have been an older immigrant, but offhand since there's so much talk about giving wishes up at 18, that was the first thing that came to my mind. But you also make a great point that granting it would be allowing slavery to exist in the land. And the next wish crushed, for true love...oh boy. There was a reason that was one of the 3 things the Genie wouldn't do! Some have also noted elsewhere that the guy hugging the child is a VERY vague wish: Is the child dead and he wants him revived? Estranged? Does he even have a child at all?
@@roristevens2810 Yeah, there are a lot of seemingly innocent wishes that don't seem so innocent once you consider what granting them actually entails. Sabino's wish is a great example. He didn't wish to be a great musician, he wished to inspire the next generation i.e. mass mind control.
Doug summed it up pretty good at the end. The ultimate shame of "Wish" isnt' that it's bad; It's that it's bland and empty. Same can be said for most of the live action remakes too; all of them leave zero impact on you. This shows just how far Disney has sunk because they used to make movies where you would leave FEELING something, like you had an experience. Something to impress you, inspire you, and capture your imagination.
Even when Disney had "Bombs" in the past (ie. "Black Cauldron", "Treasure Planet"... not dissing the quality of these films, just saying they aren't amongst Disney's most well received) there would still be SOMETHING in them that was fresh and creative and clearly left an impact with some people. Less well-received Disney films like "Black Cauldron" and "Treasure "Planet" got their cult-followings eventually... I doubt Wish is even gonna have that 20 years from now, because there is NOTHING inspiring or unique about it and to me, that's the ultimate tragedy.
A company that could still be creative and interesting even at their lowest points is now producing mediocre forgettable fluff that pales in comparison to their previous work when they're actually TRYING... It's so sad and pathetic.
The fact that the film was ORIGINALLY planned to be in 2D but was then changed at the last minute because the Head of Animation said the style was "too limited" is infuriating...
*Japan and anime enters the chat*
Laughs in hell 😂
"Too limited" more like "we don't know how to draw 2D anymore"
And then they lost the oscars for a 2D animated movie, the irony
@@Naharu. RIGHT?! 🤣😭
@@Naharu.
What 2D animated movie?
15:24 ♪ "No one lusts like Frollo! Or mistrusts like Frollo..." ♫ it works perfectly, they should've put it in the Hunchback. It just matches the character complexity so well! XD
🎵 Goes roaming for big gypsy busts like Frollo 🎵
Damn Doug you wrote a better script with just one idea .
I love when Doug is able to craft a better story than the movie itself
A bit of a "to Hell and back" sort of story, Magnifico could've been like the Anakin Skywalker of Disney Animation if they went with Doug's idea.
Anakin Skywalker of Disney Animation.
I would like that, TBH. Also Hayden Christensen was fantastic as Anakin in ROTS.
Where is it?
@@thechuchofthecentury3853 22:51-23:13
5:37 I love how Critic threw in a mention to The Thief and the Cobbler
There was a Chris Pine reference in Pinocchio, and here, he was casted in Disney's 100th anniversary movie. Someone at Disney really likes Chris Pine
My solution for the plot while keeping it relatively the same: Magnifico can see the future repercussions of the wish and the reason he does not grant them is that they in one way or another orchestrates his future downfall:
Guy wants to be a musisican -> he makes music that inspires people and makes them think outside his regime and eventually rebel
Lady wants to fly -> that means making magic accessible to commoners, meaning eventually there will be someone more powerful than him
Kid wants riches -> neighboring kingdoms will eventually hear about it and team up to attack the kingdom for said riches.
Then why even do wishes if hes so paranoid ? Garnet has future vision but doesn't think the world will end from every small action
The change I would make is that the source of Magnifico's magic and the wishes is a wishing star he found when he was young. The magic in it is running low because of the wishes he grants, and his bombastic personality hides the fact that he feels the wishes are all everyone cares about. So he's afraid that once the magic runs out, everyone will turn on him and hate him. And when he finds out that Asha has her own star, he sees a way to recharge his own and keep things going. And his defeat in the climax is from the citizens making all kinds of wishes, draining his source of power until all the wishes fail.
@@nicholassims9837he doesn't grant wishes Magnifico's main goal was to make a utopia for himself and others and the price was taking people's wishes and forgetting them... He only grants wishes as a sign of reward but he doesn't really need to because he already gives the basic necessities like peace, food and free shelter
@@bored0886 It really is a great system. It's kind of a win-win. You either get what you want or you stop wanting what you can't have. Imagine if any Disney villain had gone to Magnifico with their wishes. Is someone like Scar worse off for forgetting his wish to be king? Would Cruella be worse off if she forgot her wish to skin puppies? Is the Evil Queen worse off because she no longer wants to be the fairest of them all? Is Jafar worse off for no longer wanting ultimate power? Magnifico removes people's selfishness with their consent.
16:25 that delivery made me hard laugh! 😂
I can't remember the last time he yelled like that. 😅
@G2Quiznos025 Probably can't hit those higher pitches like he used to.
A heard a little “BAT CREDIT CARD” in that rage 😂
Another thing worth noting, I'm pretty sure this movie was originally supposed to be animated in the 2D style of old Disney, but it was changed to 3D at some point in production
You know what would have made Magnifico a tad more interesting? Have it so he knows how dangerous wishes can be if granted to anyone, maybe have him suffer from a form of PTSD if someone tries to have him grant everyone's wishes. Perhaps out of desperation and out of his queen convincing him, he opens the book, knowing it feasts on his darker emotions. Maybe even have Chernobog be the being behind the evil book.
I had the idea that Chernobog was his brother, who tried to use a wishing star to wish for all the power like Jack Horner wanted from Puss in Boots before being sealed away.
Disney's "Once Apon a Studio" was the only thing to somewhat Redeem Disney.........sort of.
The short 10 minutes of a short for almosted all of Disney movies that acknowledges movies like Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, Chicken Little and even Home On The Range is better than this hour and a half snooze fest.
@@flipcamgamer I'll still give Disney credit are at least trying to produce something good
What pisses me the most is how they turned the king into the antagonist so quickly, there was no motive nor meaning to do that because they showed that he is actually a good king and has been taking care of his people, if anything, Asha should have been the antagonist because she decided to throw the whole system out the window just because she didn't like it even though it was clearly explained to her why !
At the end of it, she just installed the whole system she rebelled against only now she is the one in charge of it, so basically she became what she rebelled against !
I know that everyone points to Once Upon a Studio as the true crown jewel of the Disney 100 celebration, but I also want to point out one other thing Disney made that I feel deserves more attention: Wondrous Journeys, a new fireworks show from Disneyland that debuted for the 100th celebration.
Much like Once Upon a Studio, it’s a celebration of Disney animation, including a reference to ALL 62 Walt Disney Animation Studios films (INCLUDING Wish). No Pixar. No Marvel. No Star Wars. No live-action. Just a beautiful tribute to the studio that’s basically the heart of Disney. And I do mean ALL 62 films. No matter how big or small the movie is, there is at least ONE small reference to it in the show.
And much like Once Upon a Studio, it blows Wish out of the water as a celebration of Disney. I highly suggest people look it up, it’s one of my favorite productions Disney has ever put on in the theme parks.
Harmonious was also fire AF, the theme park influencer fandom is smoking something to have not liked that.
For me, the movie needed one or two more years of development. Magnifico should have turned to evil out of fear, because of something from his backstory that stemmed from an evil or reckless wish. Him being afraid of his paradise being destroyed would be far more realistic and understandable than his ego being bruised. The song lyrics definitely needed work. And the colors needed to contrast and be more vibrant, rather than looking muddy and dull. A few other tweaks, and this could have been a decent movie.
Yesss, he would’ve been a much better villain if they leaned into what was very obvious severe anxiety and not random and uncalled for narcissism???
@@alleywaytc2696 IIRC it actually is implied this is why he turned evil
I honestly feel bad for the voice actors, especially Chris Pine. I can tell he had FUN doing a villain and did his best with this...they all did. But it's sad that the script and songs were really...yeah...
I watched this recently with my grandmother
She didn't like it
And i hated it because the ""villain"" wasn't even bad. I was pointing out all the stuff he was doing was due to this recent stress, and a whole butterfly effect with the "protagonist"
And he was truly evil when he got taken over by the book.
I think that's what makes his punishment worse for me. The book influenced him and no one, NOT EVEN HIS WIFE, tried to do something to help him.
@@zacharybartolo5111yeah. I just felt bad for him.
This movie has the inverse problem of WW84.
There, the movie assumed that *literally everyone* would make exclusively selfish wishes. And that no one would, say wish for world peace and prosperity for all, or even just “I wish my partner didn’t have a terminal diagnosis.”
But here, the movie pretends that literally *no one* would make the kind of wishes we see exclusively in WW84z
Sorry, what is WW84?
@@paladinjones1833 Wonder Woman 1984.
Can we talk about how stone cold EVIL the Queen turns out to be? She knows and acknowledges that Magnifico is under the influence of the evil book of evil, but even after he's no longer under it, she STILL keeps him locked up so she can rule the kingdom (that he built) alone.
"when it comes to the universe we are all shareholders" is a line written by either a sociopath or an AI. NO ONE TALKS THAT WAY AND IT DOES NOT SOUND ANY BETTER IN SONG!
A certain talking TV would say that...Would be fitting honestly.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528
What show?
Especially a movie that’s supposed to take place in a medieval fantasy setting! It’s like if Sleeping Beauty or Snow White were to talk about financial liquidity or leveraged buyouts. 😒
@@dylansharp8471 I'll let you discover of you are of age.
Once Upon A Studio felt more like a 100 year celebration than anything in this movie.
I couldn’t agree more.
That and Elemental, which IMO was absolutely fantastic even if it’s technically a Pixar film.
Something I think would've been an interesting idea is if the Star was actually evil and had been manipulating Asha all along. It could be a thing where it was the person who created the evil book and was banished to the stars. Magnifico's reason for taking the wishes would essentially be to prevent the star from returning until Asha chose to make her wish.
Another great idea better then this bland insult of Walt’s legacy.
That would tie it in to Magnifico's backstory too, maybe it was the leader or granted the wish of the "greedy thieves" that took everything from him.
For what he said about Magnifico at the end, that's actually where I thought the movie started. Not exactly like that, but something similar. It seemed like a commentary on Walt being responsible for so many people's dreams because we put so much faith and hope into Disney itself. I thought that was clever and something we'd never seen, and also pretty bold for them to do and to comment on themselves like that, especially on their creator. He's right we've never seen the hero be good, become the villain and become good again. It's a great concept, and a cool idea. Some of my favorite characters in media were reformed villains. IDK, we'll have to wait and see.
And that's how you know they were never going to make that movie. It'd be a not entirely flattering commentary on the company and how it lost its way.
@@incrediblefunk7220 Yeah and they have to be perfect. I liked how the critic said they should act like the company that made Snow White. All those references by the end just made me mad because yours reminding us of Disney and past projects, but YOU are not ACTING like Disney.
When that deer said "Here I are" i think my brain sputtered and died a little XD
I always wondered if either that deer is supposed to be mentally challenged or the writers think we're incredibly stupid.
@@colbystearns5238 Judging by the lyrics of the other songs like for example " Peep the name", I say its the latter.
@@wolverine3219Or maybe it was just a joke about how he had bad grammar? LOL
It’s a reach but it’s my guess.
@@colbystearns5238 I think it's the latter - there's a gag later on during the forest chase where it gets mesmerized by the light from her wand, ala a car's headlights, and thus can't move out of the way of her cart. But the line in the song doesn't play as the joke I think it was meant as.
I'm pretty sure the word they were going for was stakeholder, not shareholder. A stakeholder is impacted by what happens to an organization, the universe in this case. A shareholder is a partial owner of the organization. You can't own the universe. It's a terrible line either way. There's nothing whimsical about stakeholders. But, it makes a bit more sense.
Funny thing is the fans seem more in love with the unused concepts than the final film.
(Understandable, I too think a shape-shifting celestial love interest would've been awesome.)
When you order a movie on Wish.
or Temu.
I've already left two comments but I want to talk about something I just noticed and nobody else mentioned. When Asha asks Magnifico to grant her grandfather's wish he says ''Most people wait at least a few months before they start asking me for favors.'' It means he had previous apprentices who Magnifico let go because they were too selfish, or they left themselves after getting/not getting their wish granted. Or maybe he's referring to people in general. Nobody wants to be his friend, they just want wishes. He only has his ''loyal'' wife. And we all know what she did. Poor Magnifico.
Kingdom Hearts has a better understanding of Disney more than Disney now. We get to explore these worlds, their characters and stories while gaining insight to the grander story inbetween. Hell, KH3 gave us Woody and Sully being MVPs in their smaller stories. I miss older Disney.
If you want to see a cool reimagining of Wish, Lydia the Bard covers This Wish as a Villain song where Asha snaps after her mother's wish is broken. She steals the book of dark magic and tries to overthrow Magnifico. In this version he's not a villain but a fallen hero. He had good intentions to protect his people but took things too far. When he sees Asha with the evil book he realizes how he's taken things too far and hurt people. But his redemption comes too late. It's a fantastic cover of the song that goes so hard and has great visuals. Definitely worth checking out, it's the best thing to come out of this movie
That's kinda cool. And (Hear me out here) Maybe Magnifico's villain song could probably become an I want song. Probably change some of the lyrics but almost keep the same tone. And maybe at the end, We could hear a reprise of "This is the thanks i get" Instead of "This Wish. And while King Magnifico and the town are singing it you could probably have Asha get sucked into whatever Magnifico got sucked into in the movie.
The first concept of Wish was quite beautiful. Starboys character, Asha having a more confident and booksmart personality, Magnifico and Queen Amaya being an evil power couple. OH MY DAYS why did they delete it 😭😭
The moral of this movie is to hate your parents for not giving you everything you want
Which is something that never happens in real life, btw.
That's not how real life/reality works.
Or if you are being unfair as just because there your parents doesnt mean there right all the time as in South Park Kyle's parents refuse to let him go to a concert even after he did all his chores even make Cuba be in peace
Just like stupid Turning Red.
But it’s okay! Asha is an activist! She’s standing up for the oppressed like executive Disney wants!
@@JStryker47 uh no Turning Red isn't stupid
I still wish we got that star love story and villain couple 😭
We could have gotten Hero Couple Vs Villian Couple
@@dubstepbee6892 omg yeeees that would have been awesome 😭
According to modern ideas couples and romance are bad for women. Sure it is effectively calling for terrible things, but, it makes some people happy, who would be disney villains 20 years ago.
@@wooperfan584 I agree!!
@@Raximus3000
The hell are you talking about?
Just imagine how cool it'd have been for Magnifico to start as a cold distant jerk (Severus Snape style ♥️).
With the help of the Queen, Asha & co succeed to free the wishes, but reek havoc on the kingdom, because a lot of wishes aren't safe. She and her dumb friends would then realise Magnifico was right about not granting all wishes. He was in fact protecting the kingdom from some evil force.
And then, Asha realises that the Queen, who seems all milk and honey, is in fact the mastermind of a whole operation to unleash a demon contained in the evil book and take over the kingdom for herself.
Asha then apologises to Magnifico, finds out his back story, and they join forces to defeat thebrat Queen.
We'd have character development, dramatic fight scenes, an antihero and a twist villain, all in one. Not to mention a less annoying and entitled protagonist
Another Fun Fact: According to the official book "The Art of Wish", there was a scrapped romance between Asha and an earlier humanoid version of Star. In the demo version of the song 'At All Costs', sung by Benjamin Rice and Julia Michaels, 'love you' was in place of 'promise' and Asha's verse opens with her saying "Wow." These changes imply the song was originally a love song between the two characters.
Figures. Couldn't have a "problematic" romantic hetero relationship "ruining" a great story, could they?
@@JStryker47 Gotta make them gay and lame.
Holy shoot, that makes so much more sense. Like, the absolute worst part of this musical is that the songs have Jack and all to do with anything happening in the movie. That song is the worst offender. I was watching it in pure confusion about why they were singing a song about either a baby or a lover and making it about these little glass orb wishes like rando lady wanting to fly is the greatest thing in the world
@@JStryker47Disney hasn’t even had one non-het relationship between main characters in any of their animated movies. The closest we come is Strange Worlds (and I guess live action LeFou though he’s still background imo). That’s two movies across three decades of my life lol, get off your wokeism crap. Disney isn’t shit now because they’re trying to be woke, they aren’t. They aren’t trying anything, that’s the actual damn problem.
@@tisvana18 That's because they were a family friendly company that wasn't pushing - and I quote, a "not at all secret agenda" back then. Parents are usually the ones who take their children out to the parks and to see the movies, after all. (Which is also the reason Walt Disney created Disneyland in the first place - so that there'd be a theme park where parents and their children could have fun together.)
And also because most of their older, and better, works were based on fairy tales; which typically starred Princes and Princesses. You know... *heirs* to the thrones of Kings and Queens. That was kind of a big deal, back in medieval times. Why do you think the King in Cinderella wants his son to find a wife so badly? Because he wants his son to have children before he dies. That's why most parents want to become grandparents before they die - so that their family tree can live on. If it wasn't for hetero relationships, the human race would die out. In fact, that's the reason why pirates ceased to exist - too many of them were men, who died without ever procreating.
19:57
"Mirrors Mirrors! On the wall-SHUTTHEFUCKUP!!"
Best bit of the review! 😂
Don’t you meant 19:57?😅😅😅
@@luckymario4196 Cheers!
I also like how the clip cuts away before the f-bomb is dropped.
I laughed so hard at this.
😂😂😂😂
I feel like the main problem with King Magnifico was that they tried to make him into both a sympathetic villain and a pure evil villain at the same time. And you can’t really do both at the same time unless you know how to truly make it work.
And the thing is, it is possible to give a pure evil villain a sympathetic background, they just did it poorly.