I was half expecting this to be humans from a distant colony, returning to a ruined and forgotten Earth, re-discovering their true origins... but this is pretty good too!
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 well that depends if someone had a intelligence agency that was capable then you'd have had data upon who will betray on exchange for what, maybe the dictator is a nut job but the second in command would be glad to not fear execution or nuclear war.
@@akmon3490 if it's any consultation, we've already figured out how to capture carbon from the atmosphere and turn it into useful industrial products, the only thing stopping it from being used is its economic viability and governments being as useless as always
@@akmon3490 All it takes is one person to press that trigger, then bye bye humanity, and in the immortal words of Monty Python "There's fools and idiots sitting on the triggers"
Stasis Pods would be too energy costly, and DNA encoded in binary is a gamble, especially given how much data storage you'd need to catalogue enough genetic templates to kick start a species without bottlenecking it, not to mention the issues data corruption could cause. Cryogenically preserved embryos was always going to be the most cost, energy and space efficient way to do it.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 Not like frozen embryo's are any better. Without a working womb replacement the embryo is useless. Utterly useless. You see the actual development of a human embryo is not actually controlled by the genetics, The end result is, assuming nothing goes wrong, but the process is not. It is controlled by the hormonal and chemical balance in the womb at each stage of development. It is, in short, a form of what is known as Phenotypic Plasticity. What that means, is without the knowledge of human reproduction, and especially the specific knowledge of the chemical and hormonal balances in the womb at each stage of foetal development (which we do not even fully know yet), there is precisely nothing that they can do with those embryo's. Absolutely, nothing..... Without the presence of an already developed artificial womb, or the data to allow one to be constructed, the aliens could not bring humanity back even if they wanted to.
For me neither point was really unexpected ( the explorers are the human not the extinct, and the surviving embrios) but the way this was written is very good so it was still interesting and impactful. Very well written and narrated.
If I had to nitpick, it wasn’t too clear why they were surprised that the terminals were in their language when they could understand the speaker. The specifically seemed surprised that they’d go thru the effort to translate, but later in the story they said not only that they got a message from the Humans, but that they replied. If they knew that the aliens got the message why were they shocked?
@@Djm95454 idk but maybe translating is a little easier than to build an entire computer with the same specs as humans do. Thats more than language. You need them to work similar to human machines. But you are right it was a little wierd
They've *potentially* passed *A* great filter, that depends on whether or not the exploration team can transport enough embryos back with them. If they can't transport enough embryos for that species to not get genetically bottlenecked, then the xenos haven't passed, as by the time they get back, the remaining embryos would be unviable.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 I mean they can always come back for a second transport. and if humans have the tech which they do (mentioned a 50+year slumber through space) they can just hybernate the first batch untill the second arrives or however many is needed.
@@abelboronkai448 you seem to be fundamentally missing the point that the embryos are no longer hermetically sealed, on an irradiated planet. By the time they get another ship there, even if they have instantaneous communication tech, which they don't given that they're clearly travelling at sublight speeds, any embryo left behind will be too irradiated to be viable.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 pretty sure the dieing civilisationwas not made of morons. the capsules them self could have protection against radiation any other danger. And the humans are ok with only a space suit which has either limited protection meaning radiation levels decreesed over time (which would happen) or they have insane tech which than they can use for the emprios protection. Remember the embrio room opened on its own. It was programed that way. So why would the aliens do that if that meant possibly the end of this last ditch effort?
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 bold of you to assume instant communication wont be a thing,rescently scientists used google supercomputer to do just that altho not for information but a particle,it will take hundreds or maybe even thousands of years before instant communication no matter where you are in space/time becomes a reality,tho it will happen
We've all heard, seen or read dozens of stories like this one before, I'm sure. But the writing here...the *emotion conveyed in the words*...! It's as they say. It's not in having an original concept, as nothing truly is. It's all about the presentation.
It is: In game there's an event where you find the sterile husk of a species' homeworld In a last ditch effort, this species uploaded their consiousnesses, with the hopes that someone else (like the player) would have the technology to download them back into new bodies
Liked the story, but sadly, there will not be a return of the fallen civilization. The embryos that survive will grow to adopt the civilization of the humans that came.
Is that such a bad thing though? If there culture was so toxic and self destructive then maybe it didn't need to exist at all. Besides that's what the computers are for. Some information and cultures.
Good Science fiction comments on the writers society. On the hopes and fears of the paths we choose to travel. Read early Science fiction and you will find the racist elitism so prevalent AT THAT TIME. That was how those writers perceived their world. Jump forward to the 40s and 50s and see the results WWII left on the psyche of the writers,. In the 1970s writers looked at beliefs and religions, and for the first time in my life, I read about my own times set in the future. The 1980s and 90s brought Mad Max type worlds to us, the remnants of humanity struggling to remain human. The 2000s saw tales of hope and technology, of exploration and colonization. Now we have warnings, prayers almost for the future of mankind, that we turn from our greedy self-destructive ways. And war. Always there are wars.
I was half expecting this to be humans from a distant colony, returning to a ruined and forgotten Earth, re-discovering their true origins... but this is pretty good too!
Humanity: alright we’ve got a lot more babies now….
Look on the bright side the lonely who want a family now can have a family
Actually the human population is on a decline especially in Europe and the West..
You are the population that they want to Decrease 💯
I cried at the end. such a good catharsis
I was half expecting the reveal to be that Humanity was the species.
Nah, couldn't be, we wouldn't have reached out to each other during that war, like they did, we'd have just nuked each other.
By the doom and glum I was expecting to be something about global warming and how we need to stop CO2 emissions this instance
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 well that depends if someone had a intelligence agency that was capable then you'd have had data upon who will betray on exchange for what, maybe the dictator is a nut job but the second in command would be glad to not fear execution or nuclear war.
@@akmon3490 if it's any consultation, we've already figured out how to capture carbon from the atmosphere and turn it into useful industrial products, the only thing stopping it from being used is its economic viability and governments being as useless as always
@@akmon3490 All it takes is one person to press that trigger, then bye bye humanity, and in the immortal words of Monty Python "There's fools and idiots sitting on the triggers"
There were multiple ways this could've ended: I was thinking, maybe DNA, encoded in Binary, or Stasis Pods.
Stasis Pods would be too energy costly, and DNA encoded in binary is a gamble, especially given how much data storage you'd need to catalogue enough genetic templates to kick start a species without bottlenecking it, not to mention the issues data corruption could cause. Cryogenically preserved embryos was always going to be the most cost, energy and space efficient way to do it.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 and eith the past of time most parts of the data would have been corrupted
@@rubencid2575 I believe I did mention data corruption, I kept it brief as to not have to go into the whole thing of radiation degradation
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 Not like frozen embryo's are any better. Without a working womb replacement the embryo is useless. Utterly useless. You see the actual development of a human embryo is not actually controlled by the genetics, The end result is, assuming nothing goes wrong, but the process is not. It is controlled by the hormonal and chemical balance in the womb at each stage of development. It is, in short, a form of what is known as Phenotypic Plasticity.
What that means, is without the knowledge of human reproduction, and especially the specific knowledge of the chemical and hormonal balances in the womb at each stage of foetal development (which we do not even fully know yet), there is precisely nothing that they can do with those embryo's. Absolutely, nothing..... Without the presence of an already developed artificial womb, or the data to allow one to be constructed, the aliens could not bring humanity back even if they wanted to.
@@alganhar1 okay, but data on how to construct an artificial womb is a lot, lot easier to store as data, than 100000 separate DNA sequences.
For me neither point was really unexpected ( the explorers are the human not the extinct, and the surviving embrios) but the way this was written is very good so it was still interesting and impactful. Very well written and narrated.
If I had to nitpick, it wasn’t too clear why they were surprised that the terminals were in their language when they could understand the speaker. The specifically seemed surprised that they’d go thru the effort to translate, but later in the story they said not only that they got a message from the Humans, but that they replied. If they knew that the aliens got the message why were they shocked?
@@Djm95454 idk but maybe translating is a little easier than to build an entire computer with the same specs as humans do. Thats more than language. You need them to work similar to human machines. But you are right it was a little wierd
Literally broke down in tears listening to this, goddamn I was not prepared... We shall persist regardless, such a good story
Great story, thanks to both the writer and the narrator!
That twist at the end just shattered all the effort I put into my imagination while listening to this. lol
Usually, an ending like this feels unsatisfying, but this ending was impactful.
This is a great one, reminds me of the one "no graves for the forgotten"
Somehow, they managed to pass the great filter.
They've *potentially* passed *A* great filter, that depends on whether or not the exploration team can transport enough embryos back with them. If they can't transport enough embryos for that species to not get genetically bottlenecked, then the xenos haven't passed, as by the time they get back, the remaining embryos would be unviable.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 I mean they can always come back for a second transport. and if humans have the tech which they do (mentioned a 50+year slumber through space) they can just hybernate the first batch untill the second arrives or however many is needed.
@@abelboronkai448 you seem to be fundamentally missing the point that the embryos are no longer hermetically sealed, on an irradiated planet. By the time they get another ship there, even if they have instantaneous communication tech, which they don't given that they're clearly travelling at sublight speeds, any embryo left behind will be too irradiated to be viable.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 pretty sure the dieing civilisationwas not made of morons. the capsules them self could have protection against radiation any other danger. And the humans are ok with only a space suit which has either limited protection meaning radiation levels decreesed over time (which would happen) or they have insane tech which than they can use for the emprios protection. Remember the embrio room opened on its own. It was programed that way. So why would the aliens do that if that meant possibly the end of this last ditch effort?
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 bold of you to assume instant communication wont be a thing,rescently scientists used google supercomputer to do just that altho not for information but a particle,it will take hundreds or maybe even thousands of years before instant communication no matter where you are in space/time becomes a reality,tho it will happen
I'm sure it was a mostly peaceful tactical nuclear device!
Ooooh you better implement space communism otherwise you'll end up like these aliens oooooo
This hurts and while I'm crying I'm here for it.
We've all heard, seen or read dozens of stories like this one before, I'm sure. But the writing here...the *emotion conveyed in the words*...!
It's as they say. It's not in having an original concept, as nothing truly is.
It's all about the presentation.
....fantastic Story..... brilliant.
Great story , thanks for the narration.
The speaker in that final recording is astoundingly eloquent if he's speaking off the cuff. 😉
not gonna lie, that was pretty damn dark. holy shit
Thanks for the story 😊☺️
"RAGE AGAINST THE DIEING OF THE LIGHT" Never go easy!
It's "dying"
It was climate change, so give moar money and power to the Government
You will own nothing and be happy. Now eat the bugs.
The bunker is the only unrealistic part of this history
Damn, this really made me sad.
Such a sad story, with hope intertwined.
5:44 Humanity... Extinct? Impossible...
That night the crew had "THE BEST" alien embryo nuggets for dinner.
Thank you for the reading
I thought that the opening door would be a stasis pod with Lugano in it
It's the politicians that are frozen... not the "hope of [their] kind"
Seedship...
Darn onion ninjas!
They are everywhere, those onion ninjas.
This should actually be a Stellaris mission that you can randomly get as a species
It is:
In game there's an event where you find the sterile husk of a species' homeworld
In a last ditch effort, this species uploaded their consiousnesses, with the hopes that someone else (like the player) would have the technology to download them back into new bodies
Are you sure this isn't about us?
It's pretty close to the Bone when you think about it.
17:55 "that left all but one explorer still listening..." is so NOT correct.!!!!!!
Liked the story, but sadly, there will not be a return of the fallen civilization. The embryos that survive will grow to adopt the civilization of the humans that came.
Is that such a bad thing though? If there culture was so toxic and self destructive then maybe it didn't need to exist at all. Besides that's what the computers are for. Some information and cultures.
The hope of the project was not the return of their civilization but the continuation of their species.
Xeno cloning technology, sounds like heresy to me.
Wouldn't be cloning, Just stored embryos
Good thing this isnt 40k then but a place more uplifting
@@sithalo 'The Emperor protects'; can't think there are many stories more uplifting than that.
Imperator Protegit!
Good Science fiction comments on the writers society. On the hopes and fears of the paths we choose to travel.
Read early Science fiction and you will find the racist elitism so prevalent AT THAT TIME.
That was how those writers perceived their world.
Jump forward to the 40s and 50s and see the results WWII left on the psyche of the writers,.
In the 1970s writers looked at beliefs and religions, and for the first time in my life, I read about my own times set in the future.
The 1980s and 90s brought Mad Max type worlds to us, the remnants of humanity struggling to remain human.
The 2000s saw tales of hope and technology, of exploration and colonization.
Now we have warnings, prayers almost for the future of mankind, that we turn from our greedy self-destructive ways.
And war. Always there are wars.
This is basically the in limbo science event scenario.
A fellow genocide simulation enjoyer i see oh i mean late game Lack reducing stellaris Player
A visit to San Francisco.
And then the refrigeration failed...
was made to fail, Suffer not the Xeno to live
Ok then
Damn.
For The Algorithm
Wane closer? Diminishes as it gets closer? Weird.
Heavy. Good story but heavy.
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more climate cultist propaganda 🙄