Error/Omission: Missed Jammie Robinson in the safety room somehow which is a bummer cause he might get some playing time as a Dime back. Not someone likely to make too much of an impact but secures some pretty good Safety/Slot depth.
Thankd =s for giving *_some_* recognition to Ejiro Evero though. People forget that with the same basic roster that allowed the Dolphins to score 70 points he had the Broncos as the #1 defense in the entire league before they exploded in frustration in week '17. I'll always wonder if he'd have stayed had he known they were gonna get Payton.
@@Beardown451 so far he only did 1 kicker and punter/team. Can’t really give a grade for rookie kickers either because he doesn’t scout them. Pats also have 2 kickers but he only listed 1 I think
@@okaythanks872He's been very critical of Cam ever since his shoulder injuries, saying he couldn't throw the ball 20 yards deep accurately, which yeah is very true and nearly everyone said the same thing besides the usual Cam Newton Truthers.
16,000 views and only 2,000 likes? Let’s convert more likes! Marcus does such an awesome job - especially when you compare this content to other deep dives on RUclips. Not even close. I think the hat alone is worth about 8,000 likes! 😂. Although I know I am preaching to the choir. If you’re reading comments, you most likely left a like on the video.
@@tomaspenna2815Name 26 passers better than him. He literally had nothing to work with last year, and people made excuses for Lamar for years with a team that was the number 1 seed
@@tomaspenna2815Also, if you paid attention at all, you’d see that he’s only one rating point higher than Brissett. Most of these guys will be clustered in that 70s range.
What might be a fun video idea at some point could be doing an all-tfg team basically compiling all your highest rated players into what you think the nfl first/second team might be.
Very much appreciate the informed review + analysis. A lot of us in Carolina were feeling confident as well with the OL, but then Ekwonu/Christensen/Bozeman/Corbett/Moton ended up never all being on the field at the same time. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the bad luck as well... it was BRUTAL. T_T Incredibly excited for the team this coming year. Can't wait to see how Bryce, Icky, XL, Tremble, and the RBs all develop. I'm a little worried about the defense, especially the CBs, but can't wait to see how much they improve against the run.
I figure the Giants (Titans & Cardinals) are gonna be the next 3 in whatever order. Man, I've seen footage of Slayton, Hiatt & Moore getting open, running Perfect Routes, getting YAC. Nabers is a pick for the future fs but they _need_ a QB badly & unless Lock has recovered from whatever they did to him in Denver, there is a _low_ ceiling on that position.
34:27 I will remember this play forever. It is seared into my memory in the same way that 2022 PJ Walker's Hail Mary is. 4th and 6, game on the line, winning is still a possibility. Just down by a touchdown, ball's in his hands. He checks to a different call, there's confusion at the line and especially from Chark, who is looking around like "WTF?" He snaps the ball, is immediately swarmed, chucks it to Chark at the sideline, he goes nowhere. Called game. I was awestruck, and so was David Tepper, who it was reported screamed an expletive coming out of his press box. Two hours later, the news broke that Frank Reich had been fired. This broke my rookie mystique of Bryce, trapped in a bad situation like a helpless little lamb. I love Bryce. I loved him coming out of college, I love him as my team's QB, and I love that all his mistakes are seemingly fixable, and can put him in the top third of this league with one good year. He's that dude. But that moment, where he was coached to do something wrong, did the wrong thing, and owned it post-game, was when I knew that he had a long way to go as a professional. Shoutout to the other notable lowlight from that game, Jonathan Mingo doing his best to toe-tap a catch *out of bounds* on a play that could have easily been a first down and then some if he had just slowed down. One of the most embarrassing plays I've ever seen all-22 of.
I can't even lie those 2 plays you mention be living rent free in my head and I'm a Pats fan btw. I really hope Bryce can bounce back because I just felt bad for him last year. That was David Carr Tim Couch levels of how to break a QB
Just finished watching this video and I gotta say I just realized the level of depth you are going in these summer breakdowns. I am obviously a Panthers fan and every thing you touched on is spot on and the attention to detail with this series. After watching the first two I wasn't realizing the level of work needed to accomplish this. "Only" thing i would've change is that Piñero isn't participating in OTAs and the undrafted kicker out of Mizzou Harrison Melvis will probably be the starter(it's special teams, so I will give you a pass 😂). Other than that, i really enjoyed it and can't wait to see the next 29 summer breakdowns.
As a non titans fan, they actually have a pretty solid roster. They’re a few injuries away from being really bad, sure, and if Levis isn’t good they’re not going anywhere. But, if Levis is good and if they stay mostly healthy (two very big if’s) they could make a wild card spot.
@@thebwahboi7616 Even if they're unexpectedly decent, they'd need 10 wins to get a wildcard spot in the AFC. Really unlikely to happen even staying healthy.
Panthers are my 2nd favorite team behind my Lions. Kinda my adopted team while the Lions were in the dark days. It’s been so tough watching them the last few years with all the players they have lost. Cam Newton, Christian McCaffrey, Greg Olsen, Steve Smith, Ryan Khalil, DJ Moore, Christian McCaffrey, Curtis Samuel, Jeremy Chinn, Stefon Gilmore, Luke Kuechly, Thomas Davis, Luvu and now Brian Burns Then they trade the first overall pick that ends up becoming Caleb Williams and other picks for Bryce Young, which sets them back several years more.
Definitely Bryce’s play extension dissapointed me. I get it he had no chance but like I feel like you noticeably see how the better athletes effected how he could run around and extends plays
As a dolphins fan I think they should look into Xavien Howard, was a top 3-5 corner, of course has taken a step back cause of injuries but he’d be a good vet to get for this defense if it’s a cheap deal
@@ThatFranchiseGuy oh yea it hasn’t been the best but I think it’s all injuries. If he can stay healthy which is a huge if I think he can still be solid
As a student assistant at Robert Morris and hearing you talk about coker as a small school guy who can do something at the pro level for next years draft take a look at Noah Robinson he’s a receiver he led the conference in yards and I think he could make it at the pro level
45:35 “You’d see Bryce would finally have a good drive, and miles sanders would fumble the ball away” lmao. As an Eagles fan, this is instant vindication. I couldn’t believe anyone wanted to bring him back after he let scoring drives slip through his fingers game after game.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy but you ain't wrong. Last season was one of the most demoralizing seasons I ever experienced as a Panthers fan. So nightmare is correct. Video is great, just ribbing you a bit.
As a falcons fan, The problem with the panthers coaching staff was too many cooks in the kitchen with no cohesive schematics you had like 5 coaches all with different philosophy Reich is a Reid style guy The OC was a Shanahan guy The OL guy was from cincy I think The QB coach was from Houston Their was no clear vision and they had an oline designed to be a power style OL that then switched to zone want a perfect example of this issue Ikem Okwanu’s regression Reich was bad don’t get me wrong but you want the clear issue easily is one man TEPPER.
I personally think they had one of the best offseasons, and yes Bryce Young with Canales could take a MASSIVE leap forward in his development, but it's clearly gonna take at least a season and some change to gel together and become cohesive.
What i hope to see from the Panthers and Bryce this year is competency. Not expecting greatness, not expecting many wins. Just want them to look like a functioning team that's working towards getting better.
find it interesting how when Rhule took over in 2020 they drafted all defense out of need and by the 2023/24 season they put out the offense they did... wonder if they could drop off defensively over the next few years with the heavy investment on offense this offseason and losses on defense
I agree with you on the OL I think they overpaid for Damien Lewis but this line is greatly improved. The guard play from last year was the main problem Ikey is a viable starter and I think he can get better.
1:43:57 It's about surviving and proving yourself. They can be a 6-7 win team. (Similar to The Patriots, they can win 6 to 8 games or stay near the bottom at 2 to 5 games) Panthers OVER 5.5 Wins.
Good chance that Eddie isn’t even our kicker next year as we signed the guy who’s name I forget but got hype as the ‘thicker kicker’ I think. Anyway go panthers we’re winning the Super Bowl!
Error/Omission:
Missed Jammie Robinson in the safety room somehow which is a bummer cause he might get some playing time as a Dime back. Not someone likely to make too much of an impact but secures some pretty good Safety/Slot depth.
too bad, he's a monster as a dime back (on my Madden Franchise) 😤
What would be his rating? Just curious
Thankd =s for giving *_some_* recognition to Ejiro Evero though. People forget that with the same basic roster that allowed the Dolphins to score 70 points he had the Broncos as the #1 defense in the entire league before they exploded in frustration in week '17.
I'll always wonder if he'd have stayed had he known they were gonna get Payton.
Also missed their new PK
@@Beardown451 so far he only did 1 kicker and punter/team. Can’t really give a grade for rookie kickers either because he doesn’t scout them. Pats also have 2 kickers but he only listed 1 I think
Marcus doing his best Cam Newton impression lmaooo
Funny considering he’s a cam newton hater
@@ahmedbow5947what he say about cam in the past?
@@okaythanks872He's been very critical of Cam ever since his shoulder injuries, saying he couldn't throw the ball 20 yards deep accurately, which yeah is very true and nearly everyone said the same thing besides the usual Cam Newton Truthers.
@@okaythanks872Talked about him being bad at football and called him “ghetto and trying to be like a rapper”
when?
The best part about being a panthers fan is getting our deep dive early 😅
Babe wake up that franchise guy just uploaded another deepdive
People are STILL posting this comment?
Marcus, as a Carolina panthers fan and a big fan of your channel I’m pretty excited to have you in Charlotte my dude, hope you enjoy your time here!
We're stoked!
Nah bro the hat says all you need to know about the channel. Pure gold
These are fucking outstanding, possibly the LEGIT HIGHLIGHT of the offseason
16,000 views and only 2,000 likes? Let’s convert more likes! Marcus does such an awesome job - especially when you compare this content to other deep dives on RUclips. Not even close. I think the hat alone is worth about 8,000 likes! 😂. Although I know I am preaching to the choir. If you’re reading comments, you most likely left a like on the video.
Yeah hopefully most people who watch give him a like
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@@tomaspenna2815Name 26 passers better than him.
He literally had nothing to work with last year, and people made excuses for Lamar for years with a team that was the number 1 seed
@@tomaspenna2815Also, if you paid attention at all, you’d see that he’s only one rating point higher than Brissett. Most of these guys will be clustered in that 70s range.
That hat is crazy
nice hat lol 😂
There's nothing better than watching TFG on a cool, rainy weekend. Keep up the good work, TFG!!!!!!!
First time watcher here, really appreciate the deep dive on Carolina. Hope we turn it around. #KeepPounding
What might be a fun video idea at some point could be doing an all-tfg team basically compiling all your highest rated players into what you think the nfl first/second team might be.
Wishing you an early welcome to NC, TFG!
That greenbay game was insane Chark was cooking those sideline catches
green bay basically had no defense on the field.
Very much appreciate the informed review + analysis. A lot of us in Carolina were feeling confident as well with the OL, but then Ekwonu/Christensen/Bozeman/Corbett/Moton ended up never all being on the field at the same time.
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the bad luck as well... it was BRUTAL. T_T
Incredibly excited for the team this coming year. Can't wait to see how Bryce, Icky, XL, Tremble, and the RBs all develop. I'm a little worried about the defense, especially the CBs, but can't wait to see how much they improve against the run.
Marcus we need retro power rankings. Its that time of the year again ❤
Welcome to NC man! Go Panthers
Love the Deep Dive Series !!! Best content of the summer !!!
Dammit. Post these daily please I wanna see my Giants already. (I'ma watch them all anyway 😂)
Give me the watch from clockstoppers and you've got a deal.
I figure the Giants (Titans & Cardinals) are gonna be the next 3 in whatever order. Man, I've seen footage of Slayton, Hiatt & Moore getting open, running Perfect Routes, getting YAC. Nabers is a pick for the future fs but they _need_ a QB badly & unless Lock has recovered from whatever they did to him in Denver, there is a _low_ ceiling on that position.
Careful what you wish for...
@@mamayl8592 wym?
@@S3rv3nT4p They are probably next. Which means they aren't going to rate well.
Wow! Keep pounding dude! I wish I could be in Charlotte this year. Check out the local fanbase and get in the conversation. You are so welcome.
The episode everyone has been waiting for 🔥
Marcus should make it tradition for the rest of the rankings to have some random team memorabilia on
TFG once again talking me into the Panthers. I can't quit this team.
Give your like immediately before Marcus even dreams about not doing those videos anymore!!
Absolute Cinema
Love the deep dives, are you going to be making a madden roster with all the rookies this summer?
He usually creates his own custom roster and then updates it through the season yea
I'm not going to be able to get to it this year.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy Nooooooooo :(
AYEEEEE welcome to Charlotte man! I hope you like my hometown
So excited, its a beautiful city.
Let's goooo love the hat for the (soon to be) new TFG hometown team!
First vid I've seen of yours. Good stuff!
Just a quick thanks for the videos
Marcus, I got a speeding ticket while listening to this on Memorial Day
1:42:50 I heard that little hint.
Ill say Broncos next.
excited for this season based off the offseason, love the coaching hires and retains
I think there's a legit shot that Legette finishes the year as their WR1
Our rookie TE measured 6’4, 245 lbs at the combine. That’s not undersized.
I’m not saying he’s a good blocker, but he’s pretty prototypical size.
I love these deep dives Marcus; fantastic stuff as ever.. keep up the good work, you’re a legend
Perfect time for a new deep dive!
Good luck on the move! I hope you find some time to rest in between making content and packing boxes
I hope so too! Haha
Great deep dive, did the Panthers right with giving them the benefit of the doubt with the moves they have made this offseason.
34:27 I will remember this play forever. It is seared into my memory in the same way that 2022 PJ Walker's Hail Mary is. 4th and 6, game on the line, winning is still a possibility. Just down by a touchdown, ball's in his hands. He checks to a different call, there's confusion at the line and especially from Chark, who is looking around like "WTF?" He snaps the ball, is immediately swarmed, chucks it to Chark at the sideline, he goes nowhere. Called game. I was awestruck, and so was David Tepper, who it was reported screamed an expletive coming out of his press box. Two hours later, the news broke that Frank Reich had been fired. This broke my rookie mystique of Bryce, trapped in a bad situation like a helpless little lamb. I love Bryce. I loved him coming out of college, I love him as my team's QB, and I love that all his mistakes are seemingly fixable, and can put him in the top third of this league with one good year. He's that dude. But that moment, where he was coached to do something wrong, did the wrong thing, and owned it post-game, was when I knew that he had a long way to go as a professional.
Shoutout to the other notable lowlight from that game, Jonathan Mingo doing his best to toe-tap a catch *out of bounds* on a play that could have easily been a first down and then some if he had just slowed down. One of the most embarrassing plays I've ever seen all-22 of.
I remember that Mingo "catch* don't think I've seen a NFL WR do that ever.
I can't even lie those 2 plays you mention be living rent free in my head and I'm a Pats fan btw. I really hope Bryce can bounce back because I just felt bad for him last year. That was David Carr Tim Couch levels of how to break a QB
Powers out phones almost dead need to go to sleep cuz I work tonight, but goddamn it I have a deep dive to watch
Just finished watching this video and I gotta say I just realized the level of depth you are going in these summer breakdowns. I am obviously a Panthers fan and every thing you touched on is spot on and the attention to detail with this series. After watching the first two I wasn't realizing the level of work needed to accomplish this. "Only" thing i would've change is that Piñero isn't participating in OTAs and the undrafted kicker out of Mizzou Harrison Melvis will probably be the starter(it's special teams, so I will give you a pass 😂). Other than that, i really enjoyed it and can't wait to see the next 29 summer breakdowns.
Was not expecting a another deep dive on a quite Sunday afternoon
More great stuff. Do you have specific credentials that get you access to those game clips you use?
that's just all 22 tape, buy nfl game pass and you can watch tape as well
@@kylegabriel5794 nice. I'm Canadian so I wonder if thats something I even have access to, we got all our "Game Pass" automatically sending us to DAZN
Audibly yelled when I saw this, needed it, thank you
What are the percentages next to names in the offseason changes screens? Snaps played?
You got it 👍
As a Titan’s fan, I didn’t realize there was a worse o line..and by that big a gap. I am sorry, Carolina. That’s brutal lol
Tennessee was definitely 31st tho haha
As a Texans fan i'm use to seeing our team early but im not gonna complain. I'll wait for that #2 spot lol
HEAR WE GOOOO Keep pounding
And someone said the titans were next 😂
No shot they’d be next lol.
People think they’re prophets by stating the obvious. Common trend in sports fans.
As a non titans fan, they actually have a pretty solid roster. They’re a few injuries away from being really bad, sure, and if Levis isn’t good they’re not going anywhere. But, if Levis is good and if they stay mostly healthy (two very big if’s) they could make a wild card spot.
@@thebwahboi7616 Even if they're unexpectedly decent, they'd need 10 wins to get a wildcard spot in the AFC. Really unlikely to happen even staying healthy.
Ye my bad 😔☝🏻
Thanks for the video. When you get to review Raiders I hope you reach out to Sanjit. His video last year referred me to start watching your channel.
predicting Titans, Raiders, or giants next
Gunna need the all name team content at some point
Panthers are my 2nd favorite team behind my Lions. Kinda my adopted team while the Lions were in the dark days. It’s been so tough watching them the last few years with all the players they have lost.
Cam Newton, Christian McCaffrey, Greg Olsen, Steve Smith, Ryan Khalil, DJ Moore, Christian McCaffrey, Curtis Samuel, Jeremy Chinn, Stefon Gilmore, Luke Kuechly, Thomas Davis, Luvu and now Brian Burns
Then they trade the first overall pick that ends up becoming Caleb Williams and other picks for Bryce Young, which sets them back several years more.
Definitely Bryce’s play extension dissapointed me. I get it he had no chance but like I feel like you noticeably see how the better athletes effected how he could run around and extends plays
He would extend plays and there’d be no one open or that Jonathan mingo “toe-tap”
As a dolphins fan I think they should look into Xavien Howard, was a top 3-5 corner, of course has taken a step back cause of injuries but he’d be a good vet to get for this defense if it’s a cheap deal
Ugh, he's so bad now though haha
@@ThatFranchiseGuy oh yea it hasn’t been the best but I think it’s all injuries. If he can stay healthy which is a huge if I think he can still be solid
YAH!! Let’s go Marcus! Keep em coming!
As a student assistant at Robert Morris and hearing you talk about coker as a small school guy who can do something at the pro level for next years draft take a look at Noah Robinson he’s a receiver he led the conference in yards and I think he could make it at the pro level
Great overall in-depth look at the panthers
45:35 “You’d see Bryce would finally have a good drive, and miles sanders would fumble the ball away” lmao. As an Eagles fan, this is instant vindication. I couldn’t believe anyone wanted to bring him back after he let scoring drives slip through his fingers game after game.
so hype for the draft season!
Take a drink every time TFG says nightmare and you might be as drunk as I had to be last year to watch this team.
I listened back to this one and it was bad 😭
@@ThatFranchiseGuy but you ain't wrong. Last season was one of the most demoralizing seasons I ever experienced as a Panthers fan. So nightmare is correct. Video is great, just ribbing you a bit.
Get Bengal on for the giants episode!!
Love you marcus, we are the football sickos there are hundred thousands of us!
Very excited for the next deep dive.
there we are
As a falcons fan, The problem with the panthers coaching staff was too many cooks in the kitchen with no cohesive schematics you had like 5 coaches all with different philosophy
Reich is a Reid style guy
The OC was a Shanahan guy
The OL guy was from cincy I think
The QB coach was from Houston
Their was no clear vision and they had an oline designed to be a power style OL that then switched to zone want a perfect example of this issue Ikem Okwanu’s regression Reich was bad don’t get me wrong but you want the clear issue easily is one man TEPPER.
I understand the pass game is still TBD a bit but thought our run game might rank a little higher than you have us
With mingo, Steve Smith said 3 years for him.. but ISM was better overall towards the end of the year when he finally got a chance
I look forward to Marcus to #KeepPouding these Deep Dives out!
Keeeeeeep
@@ThatFranchiseGuy Poundiiinnnnnggg!
Welcome to NC, go panthers!
1:46:32 adding the Germany abbreviation after nyg 😅
I have the cardinals, saints, giants and broncos as my next tier of teams who are gonna be talked about
Bryce is kinda flying under the radar this year. Wish him the best
Austin Corbett lowly drafted? Wasn't he almost a first round or early second rd pick?
First round pick by Cleveland yeah
I totally forgot about that haha, still had to work his way back into a lineup after he was shipped off.
Excellent video btw. You're the hardest working man on RUclips @@ThatFranchiseGuy
I personally think they had one of the best offseasons, and yes Bryce Young with Canales could take a MASSIVE leap forward in his development, but it's clearly gonna take at least a season and some change to gel together and become cohesive.
As a panthers fan, a lot of them don’t wanna hear anything with vanilla.. might not even order vanilla ice cream at this point🍦🍦🤣
Bryce Young isn’t a short king, he’s a petite prince. Iykyk
And you’re a petty peasant lol.
I think its Giants next, then Broncos
You look like a detective. If sherlock holmes was a Panther fan
What i hope to see from the Panthers and Bryce this year is competency. Not expecting greatness, not expecting many wins. Just want them to look like a functioning team that's working towards getting better.
find it interesting how when Rhule took over in 2020 they drafted all defense out of need and by the 2023/24 season they put out the offense they did... wonder if they could drop off defensively over the next few years with the heavy investment on offense this offseason and losses on defense
I agree with you on the OL I think they overpaid for Damien Lewis but this line is greatly improved. The guard play from last year was the main problem Ikey is a viable starter and I think he can get better.
panthers are a sneaky team this upcoming year. had a great offseason. if bryce is the guy, i think they could be a legit wild card contender.
Our starters were injured on the oline last year. Mainly in the interior
1:43:57 It's about surviving and proving yourself.
They can be a 6-7 win team.
(Similar to The Patriots, they can win 6 to 8 games or stay near the bottom at 2 to 5 games)
Panthers
OVER 5.5 Wins.
Need Cam on the deep dive next year🤌you gonna get there bro
He made a brief appearance in the beginning. You didn’t see him in the Panthers hat?
@@vdastampede 😭😭
1:11:18 (he was picked 33rd overall)
Thank you for acknowledging our bad luck last season. Feels like such a lame “excuse” but it was palpable
Nice! 3/3, next Prediction: New York Giants
BEST TIME OF THE YEAR
How do you guys feel on jaycee coverage being closer to 85-90?
Marcus looking dapper
Good chance that Eddie isn’t even our kicker next year as we signed the guy who’s name I forget but got hype as the ‘thicker kicker’ I think. Anyway go panthers we’re winning the Super Bowl!
LETS GOOOO GIANTS BREAK THE TOP 30 BABY
Me: "damn, what's taking him so long to make a video?"
TFG: "I'm moving to Charlotte in July!"
Me: "ohhhhhh that makes sense😂"
Love these videos but did you say Joe Horn is a Hall of Famer?!?
If Jaycee horn can stay healthy he can be top 8 CB easily just he’s health hopefully he can show it this season