Hi everyone, I didn't write a script this time, instead I fumbled my way through this video spontaneously and removed the awkward bits later. ;-) Also, the smaller EX7 can do FDSP as well, but with 8 voices only instead of 16.
@@mr_floydst If I stayed where I was in Ontario, Canada I would have kept the EX 5, but I ended up moving to Canada’s East Coast, and I couldn’t keep it (at least I felt I couldn’t keep it) but yes it is definitely a great synth, I even told a Canadian Yamaha rep I found the EX 5 to be a more expressive synth than the Yamaha Motif (I personally thought the Motif was flat sounding, she was surprised by that I preferred the EX 5 over the Motif)
Thanks for the videos. Tornado is basically waveshaping like SHAPER on a Kurzweil. If you start with a simple input like a sawtooth or a sine you can get some nice FM-ish tones.
I personally liked the water effect of the FDSP, especially with pad sounds when I had the EX 5 (I sold it, it was to big to take with me for a cross country move)
Thank you for this! I have an EX5R bought new in 1998. I love the way it sounds. I still use it today. It has a bug with dumping some types of sysex data over MIDI -- I could never get it to work with my synth patch library software. And I even upgraded the roms at one point. But I would not give up this synth -- there's something about it. I think people are finally starting to discover this cool synth.
Thanks for the demo. Is it my imagination or is the EX5 having a renaissance of sorts? 15 years ago it was almost impossible to find any videos on RUclips showing the EX5 now there’s a bunch. I guess it’s because it’s officially 25 years old. I still have my EX5 that I bought new in 1999. I maxed the RAM, Flash with last Firmware and replaced the 3.5 Floppy for a SCSI 1 GB Zip drive. It’s been studio kept the whole time. Went from a SY77. I am primarily a guitar player and have used soft synths in the interim along the EX. However, I’m seriously looking at the new Montage when it’s released. At 59 years old I figure it will be the last hardware synth purchase I buy. Thanks again!!👍
Hi, thanks for commenting! Maybe that's the reason. I've been posting EX5 content quite regularly over the last 5 or 6 years, and as you, I'm eager to see what Yamaha has on offer with it's next Montage workstation! Oh, haha, there's always a time and a space for another synth. This is not an age related thing. Synth is life, synth is love or so they say. ;-)
I purchased an EX5R about six years ago for less than € 500 to add it to my vintage samplers rack (Roland Fantom XR, Roland 5080, AKAI S6000) and I have to say that I love its patches and created a few, mostly percussive, myself.
Thanks! EX5 is my master keyboard, so I use it every day. Mostly together with MPC One, which has some pretty great plugin synths / sampled instruments.
Dang that audio stutter when changing parameters with the jog wheel gave me audio Nastagia... I bought one of these in college, it was expensive for me at the time but I wanted to make electronic/IDM on it and I thought it would be an all in one machine. My attention was divided by school and other things and at the end of the day I couldn't figure out how to actually get it to do anything I liked. Not so much not being able to understand it on a technical level, it was more that I didn't have an understanding of workflow and I eventually sold it. I've been tempted lately to get one again just to see if I could make it work now that there are so many resources for learning how to actually create a track.
Hi, thanks for watching! The EX5 is a great synthesizer, but a horrible workstation ;-) You _can_ create tracks on this, but there are so many concessions you have to make to the underpowered CPU that you just end up recording track after track in your DAW (or use the EX5 to complement your other tracks). When building performance patches, a maximum of 2 can have their insert effects switched on, so all the other patches you use in your track will sound not as rich as they sound in single voice mode, for example. Also, using FDSP reduces your maximum polyphony greatly. If you're looking for a keyboard that's capable of creating tracks, the MODX is the better choice really. Or MPC, which has a superb sequencer and audio tracks. But then again, none of these can give you that feeling of nostalgia.
@@mr_floydst Thanks for the reply and info. I'm off that all in one bandwagon now. Interesting to hear it's difficult to use as a workstation. Buying gear while broke in the early 2000s was tough. With hindsight I would have been better spending my money on collecting Electribes or - if I had realized they where used to make some of my favorite tracks - learning to use a tracker. Benn Jordan's video on how he made music back then made me realize too that I probably could have made it work if I had too - I had too many other distractions and interests.
These sounds are SO good. My only minor criticism is too much tremolo depth on this sound at 20:00 . Wouldn't it be great if Floyd could make these patches into a preset EX5 VST?! I had a EX5, but it was just too big! I've looked at the rack, but its like $1,500-2000.
Hi, thanks for watching! These are not my patches - these are factory patches, though. If you like to use them as a VST, please take a look at the BlueBeast plugin by Gospel Musicians: gospelmusicians.com/products/bluebeast-2 on which I made a video ruclips.net/video/nkTutBibDNw/видео.html
Hi Floyd! Lovely tutorial as always - any chance of a walkthrough on how you made the Abendstern and Obersync patches? Couple of really outstanding patches!
Hey Floyd great video as always! I have one question for you: How can I use the beautiful sounds of my Ex5 on the computer? Do I need an audio interface? Thx! ^^
Hi! Yes, I've been a (silent) subscriber to your channel for quite some time now ;-) I'm afraid what you're seeing there is just some video trickery. 4k allows for some serious upscaling.
Where to find the best patch dound libraries. Is it possible to add a faster cpu processor or memory to the ex5 to fix its sampler latency and outnof dsp power weakness.
Hi, you can find patches here: www.ex5tech.co.uk/patches.html or in the EX5 Facebook group facebook.com/groups/45885016014 No, you can't upgrade the CPU or DSP chips on the EX5. You have to use the known workarounds or accept it as what it is.
Hi, thanks for watching - I saw those news but at the moment, it's all speculation. The pictures we saw seem to show some well-built hardware (all those lights are certainly helpful in dim places aka every stage set everywhere). If the AN-X engine is (like FM-X) improving on the AN1-X left and right and front and center, we're certainly in for a treat. Perhaps I should ask Yamaha if they can send one of their review models my way ;-)
Hi, thanks for watching! If people choose to be snobs about the route that electrons travel through their instruments to create sounds, then that's not my problem. ;-) Can "synthesizers that have PCM wave forms stored in their ROM" create great and unique sounds? Most likely they can. ;-)
I _could_ have bought this thing new if a) at the time, I had heard of it and b) if I'd had the money at the time. (Both is only hypothetically true). Which makes me an old potential synth owner. ;-)
@@mr_floydst There's actually a little joke in there. The old can refer to the synthesiser, but it can also refer to me - or to both. Unfortunately, both my EX5(S) and myself are old... 🙂 In fact, I bought an EX5R second-hand. This was when I got my first job that had a good wage. When there were the blow-out sales, I sold the EX5R and ordered a silver EX5 from the UK.
Hi everyone, I didn't write a script this time, instead I fumbled my way through this video spontaneously and removed the awkward bits later. ;-) Also, the smaller EX7 can do FDSP as well, but with 8 voices only instead of 16.
This stuff is why I keep my EX-5. So unique!
It's a synth you shouldn't sell. It's also a synth where reading the manual really helps. ;-)
@@mr_floydst If I stayed where I was in Ontario, Canada I would have kept the EX 5, but I ended up moving to Canada’s East Coast, and I couldn’t keep it (at least I felt I couldn’t keep it) but yes it is definitely a great synth, I even told a Canadian Yamaha rep I found the EX 5 to be a more expressive synth than the Yamaha Motif (I personally thought the Motif was flat sounding, she was surprised by that I preferred the EX 5 over the Motif)
Thanks for the videos. Tornado is basically waveshaping like SHAPER on a Kurzweil. If you start with a simple input like a sawtooth or a sine you can get some nice FM-ish tones.
Thanks for watching! You're right! Every synth that can provide a "0 hz carrier" can do waveshaping. Implementations vary depending on the vendor.
I personally liked the water effect of the FDSP, especially with pad sounds when I had the EX 5 (I sold it, it was to big to take with me for a cross country move)
Amazing this old synth has hidden gems. I have done similar things with Opsix since it has waveshaping operators that can feed an fm operator.
Thanks for sharing! Yes, any FM synth that can do a "0 hz" carrier can be used for waveshaping.
Sounds more like the CS80 than any other.
Love it.
Thanks for watching - yes, you're right! It's an FM algorithm which makes this possible. (Did the CS80 have FM? Got to look it up).
Thank you for this! I have an EX5R bought new in 1998. I love the way it sounds. I still use it today.
It has a bug with dumping some types of sysex data over MIDI -- I could never get it to work with my synth patch library software. And I even upgraded the roms at one point. But I would not give up this synth -- there's something about it. I think people are finally starting to discover this cool synth.
Thanks for watching! There's the EX.factory library software which works around this bug.
Very nice floyd..... Much appreciated!!!
Thank you kindly!
Beautiful textures
Yes indeed!
Thanks for the demo. Is it my imagination or is the EX5 having a renaissance of sorts? 15 years ago it was almost impossible to find any videos on RUclips showing the EX5 now there’s a bunch. I guess it’s because it’s officially 25 years old.
I still have my EX5 that I bought new in 1999. I maxed the RAM, Flash with last Firmware and replaced the 3.5 Floppy for a SCSI 1 GB Zip drive. It’s been studio kept the whole time. Went from a SY77. I am primarily a guitar player and have used soft synths in the interim along the EX. However, I’m seriously looking at the new Montage when it’s released. At 59 years old I figure it will be the last hardware synth purchase I buy. Thanks again!!👍
Hi, thanks for commenting! Maybe that's the reason. I've been posting EX5 content quite regularly over the last 5 or 6 years, and as you, I'm eager to see what Yamaha has on offer with it's next Montage workstation!
Oh, haha, there's always a time and a space for another synth. This is not an age related thing. Synth is life, synth is love or so they say. ;-)
@@mr_floydst
LOL, yeah you’re right. I am always saying no more gear and then there’s more gear. Have a good day!
I purchased an EX5R about six years ago for less than € 500 to add it to my vintage samplers rack (Roland Fantom XR, Roland 5080, AKAI S6000) and I have to say that I love its patches and created a few, mostly percussive, myself.
Thanks for watching! That's a good price for the rack version.
Silverlake ❤
One of my favourites as well. (plus "Asian Rain", which is nice to drop into a track whenever the lyrics mention rain) :-)
Great job! Love my EX5!
Thanks for watching!
Cant make an album called Traktor Tarzan without it! 🚜
You mean this one? ;-)
snuppelupp.bandcamp.com/album/traktor-tarzan
Great video! Never really paid much attention to the Yamaha stuff from the 90s....this has me gassin a bit...
Thanks!
Ayye. What's up man.
This is fantastic, i need a new reason to turn this one on again
Thanks! EX5 is my master keyboard, so I use it every day. Mostly together with MPC One, which has some pretty great plugin synths / sampled instruments.
Pulled out the EX7 again. Hope I actually will get some time to experiment with this
🙂
Thanks for watching! The other FDSP algorithms are worth a look as well - when used in a subtle way :)
Dang that audio stutter when changing parameters with the jog wheel gave me audio Nastagia... I bought one of these in college, it was expensive for me at the time but I wanted to make electronic/IDM on it and I thought it would be an all in one machine. My attention was divided by school and other things and at the end of the day I couldn't figure out how to actually get it to do anything I liked. Not so much not being able to understand it on a technical level, it was more that I didn't have an understanding of workflow and I eventually sold it.
I've been tempted lately to get one again just to see if I could make it work now that there are so many resources for learning how to actually create a track.
Hi, thanks for watching! The EX5 is a great synthesizer, but a horrible workstation ;-)
You _can_ create tracks on this, but there are so many concessions you have to make to the underpowered CPU that you just end up recording track after track in your DAW (or use the EX5 to complement your other tracks).
When building performance patches, a maximum of 2 can have their insert effects switched on, so all the other patches you use in your track will sound not as rich as they sound in single voice mode, for example. Also, using FDSP reduces your maximum polyphony greatly.
If you're looking for a keyboard that's capable of creating tracks, the MODX is the better choice really. Or MPC, which has a superb sequencer and audio tracks.
But then again, none of these can give you that feeling of nostalgia.
@@mr_floydst Thanks for the reply and info. I'm off that all in one bandwagon now. Interesting to hear it's difficult to use as a workstation. Buying gear while broke in the early 2000s was tough. With hindsight I would have been better spending my money on collecting Electribes or - if I had realized they where used to make some of my favorite tracks - learning to use a tracker. Benn Jordan's video on how he made music back then made me realize too that I probably could have made it work if I had too - I had too many other distractions and interests.
I am mostly Kurzweil user, but always wanted this EX5 :-)
You can frequently find them under $500, and they're totally worth it.
@@mr_floydstThis used to be the case, but not anymore. Usually EX5 goes for =>$700 and EX5R is much more (like 2x). Even in Japan.
These sounds are SO good. My only minor criticism is too much tremolo depth on this sound at 20:00 . Wouldn't it be great if Floyd could make these patches into a preset EX5 VST?! I had a EX5, but it was just too big! I've looked at the rack, but its like $1,500-2000.
Hi, thanks for watching! These are not my patches - these are factory patches, though. If you like to use them as a VST, please take a look at the BlueBeast plugin by Gospel Musicians: gospelmusicians.com/products/bluebeast-2 on which I made a video ruclips.net/video/nkTutBibDNw/видео.html
@@mr_floydst Factory patches... they weren't on my EX5. Someone must've written over them! But they have to be the best factory patches of all time.
Tolles video! Wünderbar!
Prösterchen! ;-)
Hi Floyd! Lovely tutorial as always - any chance of a walkthrough on how you made the Abendstern and Obersync patches? Couple of really outstanding patches!
Thanks for watching! I'll do more of these eventually, but next up are some other topics. ;-)
Hey Floyd great video as always!
I have one question for you: How can I use the beautiful sounds of my Ex5 on the computer? Do I need an audio interface?
Thx! ^^
You need a MIDI out and audio in on your computer. (Or purchase Gospel Musicians' BlueBeast plugin if you're after the EX5 patches only!)
@@mr_floydst Thanks!👍🏻
Thanks a lot
Thanks for watching!
So how you record this stuff . how can get this in built presets in to the DAW. How can i fix this .
All my synths are connected to a ZOOM R20 audio recorder / audio interface. That means, the audio output of the synth more or less goes into the PC.
Cool. I did also some videos with my ex5. Where can I by such a magnifying glass?
Hi! Yes, I've been a (silent) subscriber to your channel for quite some time now ;-)
I'm afraid what you're seeing there is just some video trickery. 4k allows for some serious upscaling.
@@mr_floydstThank you!!!
Want that as a Zynthian plugin😊
A skilled Open Source programmer should be able to pull this off - it's FM applied to samples. ;-)
Where to find the best patch dound libraries.
Is it possible to add a faster cpu processor or memory to the ex5 to fix its sampler latency and outnof dsp power weakness.
Hi, you can find patches here: www.ex5tech.co.uk/patches.html or in the EX5 Facebook group facebook.com/groups/45885016014
No, you can't upgrade the CPU or DSP chips on the EX5. You have to use the known workarounds or accept it as what it is.
@@mr_floydst thanks
Hi genius , what do you think about the new montage ,next mounth yamaha will lunch it, they claimed about ANX TECH ?
Hi, thanks for watching - I saw those news but at the moment, it's all speculation. The pictures we saw seem to show some well-built hardware (all those lights are certainly helpful in dim places aka every stage set everywhere).
If the AN-X engine is (like FM-X) improving on the AN1-X left and right and front and center, we're certainly in for a treat.
Perhaps I should ask Yamaha if they can send one of their review models my way ;-)
For decades now, the word "rompler" was used in a pejorative way 🤷♂
Hi, thanks for watching! If people choose to be snobs about the route that electrons travel through their instruments to create sounds, then that's not my problem. ;-) Can "synthesizers that have PCM wave forms stored in their ROM" create great and unique sounds? Most likely they can. ;-)
"Old synthesisers..." I bought this thing new! 😳
And that makes me an old synthesiser owner.
I _could_ have bought this thing new if a) at the time, I had heard of it and b) if I'd had the money at the time. (Both is only hypothetically true). Which makes me an old potential synth owner. ;-)
@@mr_floydst There's actually a little joke in there. The old can refer to the synthesiser, but it can also refer to me - or to both. Unfortunately, both my EX5(S) and myself are old... 🙂
In fact, I bought an EX5R second-hand. This was when I got my first job that had a good wage. When there were the blow-out sales, I sold the EX5R and ordered a silver EX5 from the UK.
@@SeverityOne I got that joke, but botched the answer. Should have written "Which makes me a potentially old synth owner". ;-)
Did you do the work on replacing to the black LCD display?
Hi, thanks for watching all those videos! I did, and I filmed the whole thing : ruclips.net/video/o0bz91hSeaM/видео.html