Or how I felt when I finally picked up PM and got put against the lvl 9 Fox... With no ability to wavedash, consistently L cancel or even understand much other than "Haha smash go brrr"
@@johnbob914 specifically Fox though, they programmed him to laser camp and up smash on reaction. Sure you can break them and initiate the SDs but if you're trying to play straight up for your first time he will up smash any approach and laser until you do so xDDD
4:20 - The fact that the bot was shine trapping you to the beat of the song was beyond godlike. Not only that, the timestamp had to be 4:20 on this video as well.
You'd be surprised how similar this is to fighting an amiibo in Ultimate - they're frame-perfect, have some pre-programmed followups, crazy tech skill but no sense of neutral. Most of the ways to beat a well-trained amiibo revolve around exploiting the amiibo AI instead of having a fair fight.
Yeah that has some truth in it, but on the other hand, we did also see that the bot directly SD’d a lot of times, and I would personally add that shino stalling, for ex, isn’t necessarily a very impressive thing to find out to cheese a bot out, nor perform. For myself, I just enjoy Axe doing this and watching the content, I wouldn’t say Axe is necessarily doing anything super high level. If anyone sat down and tried to see the best ways to cheese this bot out, they’d get the hang of it in probably a similar time length as it took Axe. He’s awesome, just saying what I think tho lol.
@@Bread._ all shines are frame 1 (shielding is frame 1 too), I mean full hop FALLING shine because tasbot dash dances below you when you are airborne, and even with the 1 frame reaction time that tasbot has the shield would come out after the shine. full hop and short hop shine come out frame 4 only because you need to wait for foxes 3 frame jump squat.
@@Bread._ nah I think they’re all the same. I have a feeling that what he’s referring to is basically full hopping onto the bot and shining right before you hit the ground, while hitting the bot. I could see how it’d hit the bot. For it to actually be applicable, you’d have to have the skill to waveland while being a bit off the ground consistently. Haha.
@@dairhat I guess Ultimate was too much for you. Go back to melee just to expectate people that are good while you claim you play the game because you do as well as they do.
@@Yokai_Yuri I was being sarcastic to be clear, it just seemed like the vibe that I'm getting from the comment. I love Ultimate and I like Melee, though I don't really play Melee, I just watch it.
Axe, the fact that you always look like you're having a great time all the time makes me happy. You have an amazing personality, bro. Thank you for being yourself.
There are bots people make with reaction time built in, so they have to be made smart. The most well known of these is Phillip. Check out this channel to see more about phillip: ruclips.net/user/vladfi1
Ahahaah duuude if you see the comment in 2016 smashbot videos everyone it's shocked that you can actually touch him, 2020: 0 to death. Immagine updating stage awareness, mixing up defensive opsions, di and wall tech, Axe gave good material to improve this bot
I've seen fox cpus people have made that do that back and forth infinite with the shine. Does anybody know if that's actually a thing players can feasibly do? I imagine if it is, then its dependent on reading DI
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The absolute best thing about this bot is the aggressive multishining everytime he takes a stock
This shows that smash bot is an epik melee player like those you find online
This bot is 100% accurate goddammit
@@jestfullgremblim8002 I fully waited for the AI to taunt like the PM CPUs
DISPLAY OF DOMINANCE
XD
This is like playing against a level 9 cpu when your 6 years old
Or how I felt when I finally picked up PM and got put against the lvl 9 Fox... With no ability to wavedash, consistently L cancel or even understand much other than "Haha smash go brrr"
@jarod walker lol first time I faced a level 9 pm cpu I was playing with a keyboard on dolphin and actually won against a wolf as Luigi
Pm cpu ai is still kind of bad, i once had a game against a level 9 falcon where he sd'd all 4 stocks
@@johnbob914 specifically Fox though, they programmed him to laser camp and up smash on reaction. Sure you can break them and initiate the SDs but if you're trying to play straight up for your first time he will up smash any approach and laser until you do so xDDD
This is what people thought ultimate’s lvl 9 cpus were like when the game first released lmao
"If leffen played optimally like he's supposed to it would look like this"
fox immediately gets 0-deathed the next game
60-40
3:34
Axe: He teched for once!
Smashbot: *Furiously multishining in the backround*
dear god it's learning
@@destroythemanb07 He learned BM too!
This just shows how fast top players can read habits and figure out what they need to do to exploit them haha, so cool
How fast was it? I think the video was edited for length
@@The_SOB_II well he learns how to beat the fox ditto in one try
haha. just sitting there where the opponent gets a free invuln attack at the ledge, waiting for his fate is a pretty exploitable weakness
Idk man he was playing that bot for like 5 hours b4 he got the first win..
Well yeah, it's their job to be the best at the game after all
4:20 - The fact that the bot was shine trapping you to the beat of the song was beyond godlike. Not only that, the timestamp had to be 4:20 on this video as well.
Lmao why does his SDI on knee just look like Wizzy’s SDI vs n0ne
Was thinking the same exact thing lmao
I think Wizzy's sdi on n0ne was better tbh
This just makes me think how amazing wizzy is lmaoo
I think no joke Wizzy is like 50-80% of the way there to perfect SDI's. Someone did an analysis and I think he no joke did close to TAS SDI.
8:07 fox bot SDIs a weak back air from sheik onto the stage and lands, does two dash dances, then shine spikes, all in less than 25 frames
Underrated moment
and for reference it takes Axe 32 frames to visually react after the shine lmao
SmashBot: "Yeah we both played bad"
😂
The bot can almost sdi as good as wizzy
Almost. It's crazy to say Wizzy's SDI surpasses the fucking TASBot
@@Alushu finaly,i found someone that like puyo puyo and melee
@@Alushu and you're right
Lets be honest, are any of us surprised to find out that 2020 ended up being 20XX
XX is 20 in Roman numerals after all.
@@hiimemily oh my god ur right
this video convinced me the power shield sound is the most satisfying sound in melee
I think the most satisfying is when swords clank
@@lolislayer4944 the most satisfying sound is SHOW ME YOUR MOVES
no, it's [beep]
Smashbot isn't even ranked in the PGR.
Axe can barely pull out wins against unranked players now? Smh washed.
Once we get online MMR he should play 24/7
You'd be surprised how similar this is to fighting an amiibo in Ultimate - they're frame-perfect, have some pre-programmed followups, crazy tech skill but no sense of neutral. Most of the ways to beat a well-trained amiibo revolve around exploiting the amiibo AI instead of having a fair fight.
Some people in stream chat thinking the bot isn't very good... That's how amazing Axe plays and adapts. Crazy.
Yeah that has some truth in it, but on the other hand, we did also see that the bot directly SD’d a lot of times, and I would personally add that shino stalling, for ex, isn’t necessarily a very impressive thing to find out to cheese a bot out, nor perform. For myself, I just enjoy Axe doing this and watching the content, I wouldn’t say Axe is necessarily doing anything super high level. If anyone sat down and tried to see the best ways to cheese this bot out, they’d get the hang of it in probably a similar time length as it took Axe. He’s awesome, just saying what I think tho lol.
the bot is pretty exploitable, i think full hop shine would work vs smashbot 100% of the time since the bot cant shield in time
Is full hop shine somehow faster than short hop or grounded shine?
@@Bread._ all shines are frame 1 (shielding is frame 1 too), I mean full hop FALLING shine because tasbot dash dances below you when you are airborne, and even with the 1 frame reaction time that tasbot has the shield would come out after the shine. full hop and short hop shine come out frame 4 only because you need to wait for foxes 3 frame jump squat.
@@Bread._ nah I think they’re all the same. I have a feeling that what he’s referring to is basically full hopping onto the bot and shining right before you hit the ground, while hitting the bot.
I could see how it’d hit the bot. For it to actually be applicable, you’d have to have the skill to waveland while being a bit off the ground consistently. Haha.
Alternate title: Axe experiences what he did to Silent Wolf and relives the pain he put him through on The Fountain of Dreams.
I keep forgetting how stupid melee's SDI looks at TAS or Wizzy levels
hi levi
Imagine if it was actually tai playing fox
The random tech after the repeated neutral getups into the upsmash kill was hype af
12:53 It did the Wizzy SDI.
Everyone knows this "bot" is really just Hax$ traveling back in time from the year 20XX playing on the final form of B0XX
as a programmer, this is seriously, seriously impressive.
Impressive for Axe to win or impressive how well the bot is programmed?
Bots are taking over Melee.
“Fox players have no right to complain.”-AXE
3:26 is how the game looks to wizzy
2:47
Falcon was like: "Mom come pick me up i'm scared"
This is so cool! The bot really shows how precise Axe (and other pro's) really are! Awesome.
SmashBot's SDI is almost as good as Wizy's
"This is what you're supposed to do with fox"
I think hax$ is a perfect example of why you're NOT supposed to do this with fox
That CPU invested all points on offense and 0 in defense lmao
but it has frame perfect shielding, that means it is invincible /s
I didn't know "ReallyJoelsDad" CPU difficulty was in Melee
it's 20XX and the frame perfect AI fox players are the only viable characters aggressively multishining every other character to death
But Mew2King comes back and can still cheese them on the ledge
"I AM your father."
18:12
So interesting watching this after first rewatching STR 2017. Top players are actually built different
This is how Hax always wanted to play
Even TAS fox pays the fox tax lmaoo
Imagine everyone you face in unranked is using a smashbot, but you don’t know that
How does Axe look like a natural main with every character???
I find it funny when marth and fox are just chasing each other across the stage
Plot twist it isn’t a bot at all, it’s really just an average fox player from the future
That CPU fox is the ultimate fantasy of any melee fan.
8:04 the bot said "get rekt noob" I litteraly heard him saying that I swear xD
Trying to play like that bot would give anyone Repetitive Stress Injury.
spoiler alert: this is actually just Tai after drinking four gallons of Gfuel
now imagine if the bot did nothing but shieldgrab
How normal people see Melee Fox players
Forward airs on shield to the beat at 19:42
A Jigglypuff TAS bot would be stronger. Fox is WEAK now.
Marth:the eternal enigma for Fox.
This is what ultimate players see when they watch melee.
LMAO
Yeah, fck ult players
@@dairhat ok
@@dairhat I guess Ultimate was too much for you. Go back to melee just to expectate people that are good while you claim you play the game because you do as well as they do.
@@Yokai_Yuri I was being sarcastic to be clear, it just seemed like the vibe that I'm getting from the comment. I love Ultimate and I like Melee, though I don't really play Melee, I just watch it.
Axe, the fact that you always look like you're having a great time all the time makes me happy. You have an amazing personality, bro. Thank you for being yourself.
Is this SmashBot or FoxBot?
This smashbot guy gets more powershields than the zain himself
Yo anyone know who's remix of Redial that is around 5:50 minutes in?
nevermind found it ruclips.net/video/z8ZITqp019Q/видео.html
When the shino stalls matched up with the beat for one second tho 5:59
Exploits that work against SmashBot show Melee's imbalances. Like ledge stalling and the ledge being a strong position. It's interesting.
Plot twist smashbot is just Tai
"I'm an idiot--no, he's an idiot" xD
Someone please tell me the song at 5:15
Dragon road day, from the sonic unleashed ost
@@SoraFantasia thanks man
@@zane7019 np
Toph!
...You didn't bring me any hacks?
If I recall correctly, smashbot actually plays slightly less unfair when in the lead. Though this is info from before it was net capable so who knows.
The shines are in sync with the song around 4:21
how do you get level 10 CPU in melee?
This is what peak Melee looks like
There are bots people make with reaction time built in, so they have to be made smart. The most well known of these is Phillip. Check out this channel to see more about phillip: ruclips.net/user/vladfi1
20xx is upon us
Why doesn't it meteor cancel?
This bot is a straight up troll lmfao
"Dangit he's learning"
I'd like to see a low tier smash bot so we can figure out what to do to make them look decent
@Seven Monkeys linkbot 🤤🤤
20XX called and they want their Fox back
Ahahaah duuude if you see the comment in 2016 smashbot videos everyone it's shocked that you can actually touch him, 2020: 0 to death.
Immagine updating stage awareness, mixing up defensive opsions, di and wall tech, Axe gave good material to improve this bot
How do I make it to play against this bot ?
5:13 I see Wizzrobe taught the bot how to SDI.
Axe has such a great personality
This is like a Dragon Ball arc.
i didnt know Axe has YT channel
And here I am being like, isn't that how all Melee players play? Lol
I have a sudden urge to buy GFUEL
Full stream? I cant find it on your twitch page
All that for a drop of blood
Was this what they called 20xx?
Been playing against a lot of these in ultimate lately, none of them are this crazy though
I want to make a Luigi smashbot
I've seen fox cpus people have made that do that back and forth infinite with the shine.
Does anybody know if that's actually a thing players can feasibly do?
I imagine if it is, then its dependent on reading DI
Isn’t 20XX fox already nuts?
20XX lvl 9 cpus be like
10:13 video game litterally reacts faster than his jab LOL
You can’t fool me, this is just syrox
Again, the fans must do for smash what Nintendo never will. Imagine if the cpu level went past 9 to actually challenge a skilled player
It doesn't meteor cancel or sdi and di meteors.
How long did it take him to win a game?
I wonder what the bot would do vs giga bowser
This is the dark souls boss of melee
The bot: Thank you for the training data, see you next week.
That moment when you use an aimbot for a fighting game.
10:25 the music sync
Hax lookin a little rusty in this vid, but he hasn't been playing much i guess
Axes marth is nuts tho!