Excellent review. I actually repeated this vlog no less than 5 times to capture every essence of the comments and just bought an ORCA myself. Look forward to more reviews on your ORCA.
Great in-depth review of the Orbea Orca OMR. Glad to hear a rider's personal experience of the positives and negatives. I ordered the M30 (white) and will be arriving this fall. Have a safe ride.
Je viens d’acheter le même en vélo hiver pour ne pas abîmer mon sworks. Ce vélo est génial,je l’ai pris en 105 avec roues carbone bontrager aeolus 50mm ,selle power spe et cintre plat :3300€ avec pedales look chez mon revendeur. Le groupe 105 fait son boulot et les roues carbones plus gp5000 transforme le vélo. J’ai beau rouler sur un sworks dura ace 12 qui coûte 4,5x le prix je dois admettre que je ne m’ennuie pas au guidon de cet Orbea orca ,seul défaut son poids (8,8kg) mais honnêtement je ne le sens absolument pas quand je grimpe . En plus il est vraiment beau en orange,idéal pour être vu lors de journée sans soleil😅. Je lui met 17/20 en note
I recently sold all my race bikes and have gone to all-road setups. I did however still want a proper road bike in my lineup for when I go on group rides or longer road rides. So, I picked up the Orbea Orca M31eTeam and I love it. I've had several Orbeas in the past and they were all great bikes, they rode well and looked nice. Like you said, this one kind of fits in between the Aero and OMX with a slightly more relaxed geometry. But as I get older it feels perfect for my lack of flexibility and fitness. It makes for a good all-around bike much like the new Cervelo Soloist. I'd say the ride feel seems close to a steel frame where you're kind of grounded in the road, smooth but you're part of the road opposed to skimming over the top. I wouldn't say sluggish but just a solid feel. Think BMW opposed to Porsche, performance luxury over sports car. Out of the box the stock wheels were sluggish but I swapped them with my DT Swiss 1400s with Schwalbe Pros, that I had on a previous Orca Aero, and the bike seems a lot livelier now. Weight isn't the lightest but I'm not as concerned with that as much anymore these days. Despite that it does climb well when you put the power down and I'm sure being from the Basque Country that they kept climbing in mind. I'm sure the higher end models cut back in weight and climb well, but this does the job just fine. What you get is a great looking bike that will do just about anything you need at a nice price. There are plenty of models available to suit your budget and build preference.
I’ve owned mine for a year now, really nice riding bike, I do have a warranty frame on the way, I have some hair cracks around the top of the seat tube. One other thing is that my orange color way is now more yellow ish, only 3500km on it.
Weird. Mine includes the mount for wahoo or Garmin out of the box. It bounces a little yes. I think at the moment Orbea is one of the best deals for the money because their frame in particular the OMX is quite performing for normal people and even for some who compete. Geometries are adapted to sizes that is another plus and there are many sizes even very small ones. Then there is the MyO allowing options of parts also more in OMX. All that plus the color choice. Again if you only get the OMX frame with its stem then you can have a very competitive 7.2-7.8 kg bike probably, putting parts but you get the most important which is that frame. Great review thanks.
Thanks! I believe I saw somewhere the out-front GPS mount comes "with" with higher end models. I could be wrong, nonetheless both myself and my buddy who also bought himself an Orca per my recommendations had to order the mount separately direct from Orbea. She feels deceptively lighter under me when climbing for sure. Thanks for your time watching!!!!!
Thanks Matthew! Thankfully bikes don't change a ton within a few years LOL. I have a few new episodes coming out with this bike discussed and some changes to it. Thanks for your time watching Matthew!
Thanks for doing this review. Well done. I have a question if I may. I assumed this bike was made in Taiwan but then I saw a video of a guy with one showing it's made in Spain. Could you tell me where your frame was made? I think the sticker is on the down tube near the head tube. Thanks. Wish that color was still available.
Hi Eric. I no longer own this bike letting her go just a few weeks ago. I do think mine was Taiwan (I don't give much importance to country of manufacturing from tier 1 and tier 2 companies). But take with grain of salt since I haven't "looked" to answer this question from ya not having her any more. Pretty sure Orbea has their frames OEM private label manufactured in Taiwan anyway.
A great review. I have a similar 51cm M20i and I love it. Like you I replaced the heavy Fulcrum wheels with tubeless Zipp 303s running 28mm Good Year Eagle F1 tyres, the ones you have would have been my other choice, but stock of most bike things is so scarce here in the UK too, Dura ace rotors and cassette, which transformed how it rides and brought the weight down nicely. Mine came with the flat carbon drop bars and for me the front mount has been secure. I've not had the steerer stem cut yet until I get a bike fit. I got mine just before the price increase too. I love it and like you no plans to change it. Thanks agin for the review and wising you many safe miles on it!
Thanks for the kind words and also your time watching!! I do run Zipp 303s on my other bike currently, very familiar! Great choice sir! In a few weeks I have a ride planned with my buddies going about 280km, gonna be a rough day but I trust my Orca will take good care of me. Take care Graham!
Great review I brought the M30 model. I was between this bike and an aero bike (Marida Reacto). I'm not a racer but I want a fast bike , so I'm still weighing my choice. It was good to hear you say you were faster on yours, areo or not. I needed to here that .
Oddly enough, I was also weighing a Reacto myself. I can't say anything about Reacto since I've never ridden it but I am 110% happy with my Orca. Has everything one needs, nothing you don't. Had plenty of "aero" bikes in my past and I don't feel missing out one bit.
Great video and thanks for the honest comments. Yes Orbea bikes are expensives for the components. Yes i know i live in Spain. Love your Hunt wheels, next on my shopping list.
Hi there! I actually felt that it was priced NOT as expensive as others as far as my bike's price. Could have been worse for sure. Thanks for your time watching!!!
Thank you for your inspiring video. I immediately started looking for an M20. I found one (built in 2022) that is specified as 9.17 kg (20.15 lbs). Was the bike really that heavy in its original state? Since the weight of the Orbea Ready 19 wheelset is not listed anywhere, I am concerned. Thanks very much
Rainer. Thank you for the question. My Orca was 20.0 lbs fresh out of box. The Ready19 wheels are grossly heavy. I was able to bring the weight down to about 17lbs just by swapping to a reasonable set of wheels, an integrated cockpit, etc.
I have a 2021 Orca OMX M21eLTD with SRAM Force and I absolutely love it! Same Schwalbe tires on the the stock Vision 40 wheels. Super comfy and holds speed very well. Like you said not the lightest bike, my 13 year old Trek Madone was quite a bit lighter, but the power transfer on climbs is awesome. Great review!
I ride a 2021 Orca Aero (the cheapest one at the time). If I had a little more budget I would have gone for the Orca. I designed my with the MyO and used the orange as secondary colour. I couldn't buy an Orbea without that colour ;) I'm quite sad that completly threw away that design for their lightweight thing.
Hi Mike, thanks a ton for your time watching! Hopefully the bike industry supply chain improves by then for you to get what you want without much of a struggle! Thanks again and have a great day!
Just bought a 2023 M30i with the 105 di2 gruppo. Test rode the $11k OMX version at the shop, super fast and lightweight but definitely not worth Ducati money. On the plus side you can get some good deals on carbon wheels right now, the Hunt 4454’s are only $934 for the set. I’ll definitely have to upgrade the crap box section alloys for some aftermarket hoops. Have you had any problems with the Hunts or the Orbea for that matter?
CONGRATS!!! First, 4454 is a great set of wheels in terms of bang for buck regardless of its price tag. LOVE LOVE those wheels. The stock factory wheels that came with my Orca, boy those were definitely there just so you can roll out of a shop with. As to the Orca, I reckon it's one of the best value you can get. What a phenomenal bike...
I'f you like the ride quality and geometry of this bike you should check our the giant anyroad. It's near identical. Unfortunately they stopped making it. I managed to pick up a second hand one. Some places still offer it for between 1400 / 1200 new if you can find one. The orca and anyroad look very different but the geometry and ride quality and fell is identical.
As regards the out front mount, I received my orca in January, like you first ride it came loose. Took it back to my dealer, the guy used locktite on the small screws and it’s been solid since
Glad to hear it. I thought about doing something similar as mentioned in the video but thought to myself, is this really the proper way to secure it as a hack or is this a bodge LOLOLOL and decided against it. Nonetheless a cool little mount! Thanks Conrad for your time watching!!!
Thanks for your intelligent and in depth review. Most enjoyable. You took 2.5 lbs off the out of the box weight. Did you do this entirely by replacing only the wheels and bar? I assume 17.5 is Without pedals. I am looking at the 2022 OMR frame with SRAM rival AXS. Thanks
thx for your very common sensed and extensive review. i am in fact very eager to go for an orca, good to hear about that ride feeling. i am still struggling to get my head around the decision of M20 vs. M20i, since i would need to fork out additional 1.400,- Euros just for that. All Di2-users claim they would never go back. I, for myself, ride manual since ages and my current ultegra 6800 from 2010 still works fine and i have nothing to complain about. Your review reopened my thoughts towards staying mechanical. so the question goes: was your pick for the M20 a conscious decision against Di2 (mechanical cheaper to replace if damaged e.g.), driven by price-point or driven by availability?
Hi Lars! Thanks for your time watching and this LOADED question LOL!!! I currently ride 3 bikes that are electronically shifting and 2 bikes that are mechanically shifting. Do I prefer electronic shifting over mechanical? Yes but only by very small margins. The 2 that I ride with mechanical including the Orca, I have zero issues or concerns. They are simplicity at its finest, tried and true, and have that "familiar" feelings. That said, you would future-proof yourself a bit by taking on electronic groupset since an investment towards a bike is not a small expense. At the same time, nothing wrong with going with a mechanical drivetrain which will give you years of joy riding which is the whole point. I've seen some issues with Di2 as great as it is, and that's not a biased opinion just because I am predominantly a SRAM rider. Either or, you will have pros and cons going electronic vs mechanical. As to my decision on the one I ride, my decision was based on all the things you mentioned. I didn't care to spend extra for Di2, price at the time was on point, and it was basically the only 51cm Orca available anywhere in the US which is just ridiculous. And it was this absolutely annoying orange color which I could not say no to. :)
Guitars AND bikes?? Sir I tip my cap to you. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 (nice EVH behind your right shoulder! Subscribed!) Great review I was looking at the Orca size 51 so perfect review. Love that you can customise colours etc. One question: How tall are you??
Hi Steve! I am 5'10" or 1m75cm depending on what you are familiar with. Typical sizing would have me on a larger bike but I always ride one size smaller for a few reasons. I do have a larger RUclips channel dealing with guitars, just look up GuitarGearGuy :) Thanks for your time and the sub Steve!!!! Much appreciated!
Great review!!! The m30 being an industry bargain (up there with the canyon) even after the price increase! I believe u can choose for a no riser handlebar when u place the order.
Thank you for kind words! You would be correct in saying you can choose how you want it equipped when you order through MYO. I bought mine as-is from a dealer who had it in stock so I ended up with however it was built which had that dumb bar I didn't care for LOL... I noticed Orbea did increase the price a bit this year and probably possibly again in coming year but again, still competitive if you ask me.
Hey there I just found your Channel and absolutely loved the review, top notch! I noticed your hand brace and was just wondering what kind of issues you were having, I have been in thumb/hand/forearm braces for about three years now and finally found a set of exercises that has liberated me! Please let me know if I can help, and I’ll be checking out some of your other videos in the meantime!
Aw thank you Mike!!! I appreciate your time watching for sure! I have so many ailments everywhere, it's hard to keep track LOL!!! During the time of this recording, I was suffering from De Quervain's tenosynovitis rendering my thumb and wrist worthless... I am about 99% better now with Cortisone shot plus physical therapy. Thanks so much for your kind words and looking out!
Hi Jai. I am 175cm, 5'10" tall. I usually ride one size smaller because I have long torso and short legs :). the stem that came with the bike is 100mm.
This is a great review. I am waiting in anticipation for mine. One small suggestion - it would be great to have more shots of the bike in the review. Otherwise, thanks.
@@DiabeticCycling It was a positive comment! I enjoyed looking at your bike. I have received my M20iTeam in raw carbon and appreciate your insight before I purchased it - thanks again. Out of curiosity, what handlebars do you use and does it still allow the internal routing? I remember spotting some Zipps.
@@timkemp5154 The bar I am using on my Orca is Zipp Aero Carbon. I didn't get it for its "aero" property but for its wide surface area at the top for "more" space to rest my hands. I find it very comfortable which many would argue how it shouldn't be. Just did a 130 mile ride and my hands were very well taken care of LOL
Hey man, great indepth video. I'm hoping to get the M30 model as I don't think i can stretch to the M20. Random question where did you get your bottle cages? nice colour matching! i'm also going to check out the Hunt wheels also.
The bottle cages are sold everywhere including Amazon. Elite makes them and they come in various colors and price points. Thanks for your time watching, Paul! Much appreciated!!!!
Great video mate! I was literally enjoying every minute of your review! I have Orbea Orca OMR M25 team with Di2. I fully share your thoughts about the handling of the bike. Even though the bike weights around 1kilo more than my previous one it is actually faster because of the better power transfer. I would like to ask what is the model of your bars. Because I am definitely looking for those? Thanks!
Nice review. I just purchased the same bike and same color as yours (only choice available) - though I drool for the white one. My only planned upgrade is a set of carbon wheels. Any issue you have so far with this bike? Thanks.
Hi! Just watched your review of the Zipp 303s and the Hunt 4454 and now this one. I am going to pick up my Orbea Orca M20 in 5 days and looking for a good wheelset in the same price range as the mentioned Zipps and Hunts. Wanted to ask you what wheelset you would recommend now after a few more months (I am not climbing)? Also, I am 1.82m high but picking up frame size 57 as I want it more comfortable for longer rides on weekends, are there any changes from the stock Orca you would recommend me? Thank you!
Thanks for your time watching. As to wheels, if you plan to only ride flats, definitely go as aero as you can spend. 50mm or so and deeper, but do keep in mind deeper they get, more impact you will negotiate when there's cross wind. If the stock Orca comes with their riser bar, you may like it since you said you opt for comfort. I dumped it cause I didn't like the additional rise. Great value for money the Orca is, I'd spend as much as possible on wheels opting to save everywhere else. A great set of wheels will bring new life. Congrats and safe riding!
@@DiabeticCycling hey! thank you for your time spending in responding! I will take a look at wheelset with 50mm in the same price range as the Zipp 303s.. maybe Hunts are the way to go.. I dont have the opportunity to test so I have to buy and hope to not make a mistake lol
@@bmatic1319 Honestly, Hunts have some awesome wheels at sweet price point. So many wheels are super overpriced... Also, Hunts had some epic customer service when I was dealing with them. They got aluminum ones at well below $1k and then various price point with their carbon offerings. I'm sure you can find something that will fit your needs and budget. (I have zero affiliation with them, this is an honest recommendation)
Great review of the bike, was planning to buy it soon, you mentioned that your bike size is 51, what is your height? There is 1 review where the rider is 170cm/5’7 buying the same bike size as yours and when he went for a bike fitting the bike was to big for him
Thank Mohammad for your kind words. Bike fit is an animal that could be debated of course since everyone is built differently and also having different preferences. I am 175cm/5'10". I am built with a longer torso than should and shorter legs unfortunately so I alway size down and then use setback on the post to put me a bit behind to make my center not to be too forward compensating for my torso.
Hi thanks for the video. I'm looking at picking up an Orca m30 (105) or giant defy advanced 2. I'm currently riding a GT Grade alloy sora. I would like something comfortable and not too harsh riding and afraid orbra may be too stiff. How do the orca compare to the defy in your experience?
Hi Hotsky. Thanks for your time watching. Orca is in my current rotation obviously and I've had pleasure of riding a few different Defys in the past. I really don't think you can go wrong either way in terms of comfort. Both will give you great geometry to find comfort in. I have ridden several century rides aboard my Orca and never came off the bike feeling beaten down. You mentioned "stiff" and that's the keyword here. It is stiff where needs to be for proper acceleration where its geometry and versatility in tire sizes can get you all the comfort you need. Do see if you can make wheel upgrade as that is monumental. That said, Defy line is a great line of bikes and should be just as nice.
@@DiabeticCycling I ended up getting the orca m30.:) Got one short 25mile ride in so far (pretty cold here in Canada in late December haha). Looking forward to longer rides when the weather improves.
Hello again, I was looking at the colors on the Orbea website, and was wondering if the color of your bike is electric orange or mango? I have not seen either in the store and will probably order through their website. Electric red, and one of the orange colors.
Im in the market for a new road bike and thinking about getting this one. thanks for the great review. I like the aero bars you installed, can you share their brand/make? Thanks.
I am a newbie in this sport. If I may ask what is your height and which frame size did you get? I’m 5”6 and thinking of getting the 51 sized frame. But doing my “research” online you can go a bigger size for a more comfortable ride. However the stand over height is over 1inch from my inseam length. I would really appreciate it if you can share your advice. Thanks
Hi Kram! Thanks for your time watching and also reaching out. Questions you have, those are LOADED questions. 5'6", I'd go look from 49cm to 52cm (where 50-51 would be sweet spot). One company's 50cm could be very different than another company's 50cm, so that's not how you should look however. I'd pay more attention to Stack and Reach. Going larger in size for comfort, that is absolutely not true. Fit is very important for road bikes although I am not a super anal elitist for the topic. When in doubt, you can go one size smaller but NEVER larger. You actually will be more uncomfortable by going larger as your seatpost will be buried more in the seat tube robbing you of compliance. I am 5'10" but I have typical old Asian man proportion where I am all torso and shorter legs. In result, I always ride bikes one size smaller than what shops and fitter would try like 54cm. I buy bikes as if I were 5'7" with my inseam being 30. The Orca in this video is 51cm, my BMC is also 51cm. I also ride a Giant TCR which is small. For Canyon, I would fit best on Small. So depending on how you are proportioned being 5'6", you will definitely find one from 49-52 depending on which brand and how geometry is set on a particular model. I hope that helps. These questions you have, I could go on for 2 hours straight explaining LOL... Take care.
Hi Amiry. Well you can cut it yourself but this is one job I would recommend you take to a shop you trust. Definitely must measure 10 times and make 1 solid cut.
Nice review...spot on. I have the M30 and love it. However, yes-forget about the integrated computer mount-weak and shaky so ditched it. Saddle and wheels have to go but otherwise perfect. Handlebar works for me. Only bike in it’s price range with proper internal cabling. Can go up to 32mm tires but found they pushed the already close toe overlap on my 53cm frame. Usually go with 54 so sizing down was appropriate.
Thank you so much for your kind words, Suryo. Unfortunately I'm just a regular guy without special access to bikes for reviews like the professional guys do. And for personal use, I wouldn't need to get another Orbea since I'm pretty happy with this M20 currently. Thanks again!
Hi Shah. For this particular bike, I don't have anything immediately planned as it rides just the way I like after the wheels etc. I may look ahead far down the road and perhaps think about testing 12sp Shimano if/when it comes out. Other than that, nothing else currently. :) Are you working on upgrades for yours?
Thank you for this great, informative review. Bought Orca M20 just a week ago and absolutely loving the ride. Would have preferred white or orange, but currently in UK you can only get one colour - titanium gloss. Stock tyres are very average, as you said and I replaced it with GP’s5000. Looking forward to a ride later today.
I am 177cm or 5'10" but my height shouldn't really be considered as I have a body that isn't very proportional. I have longer torso with shorter legs for a man 177cm. So I ride frames always one size smaller typically as if I were 170cm. Thanks for your time watching!
Hi Marcus. Emonda SL or SLR is on my list to ride for sure. That said, my Factor and Pinarello will take up most number of miles this year unless I can get a hold of an Emonda unexpectedly readily available. We shall see. Do you have one? If so, How do ya like?
@@DiabeticCycling hi, I would love to hear your review on the factor. What factor model do u have? I am also very interested in the factor 02/02 vam. I do not have the trek, but love the design
I know it's kinda douchey, but it really bugs me that the OMR designation is now their lower level carbon and layup. In 2015/2016 model year OMR was Orbea Monocoque Race and was the top end frame. OMP was the lower level P designating performance. Gotta be honest and it's lame, but having OMR emblazoned on my top tube when it was a significant increase over OMP But NOW signifies lower end is bullshit and a shitty move by Orbea. Still the best frame I've ever ridden though.
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just got the bike two days ago,and I have to say, this is the most comfortable and beautiful bike I ve ever ridden.
Congrats on the new bike and I couldn't agree more!
Excellent review. I actually repeated this vlog no less than 5 times to capture every essence of the comments and just bought an ORCA myself. Look forward to more reviews on your ORCA.
Yusri, thank you so much for your time watching, 5 times! :)
Great in-depth review of the Orbea Orca OMR. Glad to hear a rider's personal experience of the positives and negatives. I ordered the M30 (white) and will be arriving this fall.
Have a safe ride.
Glad to hear you found it useful! Thank you and safe ride as well!
Je viens d’acheter le même en vélo hiver pour ne pas abîmer mon sworks. Ce vélo est génial,je l’ai pris en 105 avec roues carbone bontrager aeolus 50mm ,selle power spe et cintre plat :3300€ avec pedales look chez mon revendeur. Le groupe 105 fait son boulot et les roues carbones plus gp5000 transforme le vélo. J’ai beau rouler sur un sworks dura ace 12 qui coûte 4,5x le prix je dois admettre que je ne m’ennuie pas au guidon de cet Orbea orca ,seul défaut son poids (8,8kg) mais honnêtement je ne le sens absolument pas quand je grimpe . En plus il est vraiment beau en orange,idéal pour être vu lors de journée sans soleil😅. Je lui met 17/20 en note
Very well said sir! I agree on all points!
I recently sold all my race bikes and have gone to all-road setups. I did however still want a proper road bike in my lineup for when I go on group rides or longer road rides. So, I picked up the Orbea Orca M31eTeam and I love it. I've had several Orbeas in the past and they were all great bikes, they rode well and looked nice. Like you said, this one kind of fits in between the Aero and OMX with a slightly more relaxed geometry. But as I get older it feels perfect for my lack of flexibility and fitness. It makes for a good all-around bike much like the new Cervelo Soloist. I'd say the ride feel seems close to a steel frame where you're kind of grounded in the road, smooth but you're part of the road opposed to skimming over the top. I wouldn't say sluggish but just a solid feel. Think BMW opposed to Porsche, performance luxury over sports car. Out of the box the stock wheels were sluggish but I swapped them with my DT Swiss 1400s with Schwalbe Pros, that I had on a previous Orca Aero, and the bike seems a lot livelier now. Weight isn't the lightest but I'm not as concerned with that as much anymore these days. Despite that it does climb well when you put the power down and I'm sure being from the Basque Country that they kept climbing in mind. I'm sure the higher end models cut back in weight and climb well, but this does the job just fine. What you get is a great looking bike that will do just about anything you need at a nice price. There are plenty of models available to suit your budget and build preference.
You can use deda vinci stem and handlebar..its incredible..
I’ve owned mine for a year now, really nice riding bike, I do have a warranty frame on the way, I have some hair cracks around the top of the seat tube. One other thing is that my orange color way is now more yellow ish, only 3500km on it.
Weird. Mine includes the mount for wahoo or Garmin out of the box. It bounces a little yes. I think at the moment Orbea is one of the best deals for the money because their frame in particular the OMX is quite performing for normal people and even for some who compete. Geometries are adapted to sizes that is another plus and there are many sizes even very small ones. Then there is the MyO allowing options of parts also more in OMX. All that plus the color choice. Again if you only get the OMX frame with its stem then you can have a very competitive 7.2-7.8 kg bike probably, putting parts but you get the most important which is that frame. Great review thanks.
Thanks! I believe I saw somewhere the out-front GPS mount comes "with" with higher end models. I could be wrong, nonetheless both myself and my buddy who also bought himself an Orca per my recommendations had to order the mount separately direct from Orbea. She feels deceptively lighter under me when climbing for sure. Thanks for your time watching!!!!!
@@DiabeticCycling what’s your favourite endurance bike?
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Still a super good video in 2022 June! Great work! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Matthew! Thankfully bikes don't change a ton within a few years LOL. I have a few new episodes coming out with this bike discussed and some changes to it. Thanks for your time watching Matthew!
@@DiabeticCycling u know what! i just went to get a 2022 Orbea Orca after watch your video and its ORANGE! HAHAHA
@@matthewtan2332 If we run into each other on the road, we'd be twinning then! Congrats and be safe out there Matthew!
Just came across your excellent review. Super helpful in my decision-making on the Orbea Orca. much appreciated.
Thanks for your kind words and your time watching! Much appreciated!
Thanks for doing this review. Well done. I have a question if I may. I assumed this bike was made in Taiwan but then I saw a video of a guy with one showing it's made in Spain. Could you tell me where your frame was made? I think the sticker is on the down tube near the head tube. Thanks. Wish that color was still available.
Hi Eric. I no longer own this bike letting her go just a few weeks ago. I do think mine was Taiwan (I don't give much importance to country of manufacturing from tier 1 and tier 2 companies). But take with grain of salt since I haven't "looked" to answer this question from ya not having her any more. Pretty sure Orbea has their frames OEM private label manufactured in Taiwan anyway.
@@DiabeticCycling FWIW, I just bought one of these bikes. Box says made in EU and bike says made in Spain.
A great review. I have a similar 51cm M20i and I love it. Like you I replaced the heavy Fulcrum wheels with tubeless Zipp 303s running 28mm Good Year Eagle F1 tyres, the ones you have would have been my other choice, but stock of most bike things is so scarce here in the UK too, Dura ace rotors and cassette, which transformed how it rides and brought the weight down nicely. Mine came with the flat carbon drop bars and for me the front mount has been secure. I've not had the steerer stem cut yet until I get a bike fit. I got mine just before the price increase too. I love it and like you no plans to change it. Thanks agin for the review and wising you many safe miles on it!
Thanks for the kind words and also your time watching!! I do run Zipp 303s on my other bike currently, very familiar! Great choice sir! In a few weeks I have a ride planned with my buddies going about 280km, gonna be a rough day but I trust my Orca will take good care of me. Take care Graham!
Wow. Thanks for that Video. 30 min and i kept watching because your great way to Tell.
Julian, THANKS so much for your kind words! I know I get a bit chatty LOL!!
Great review I brought the M30 model. I was between this bike and an aero bike (Marida Reacto). I'm not a racer but I want a fast bike , so I'm still weighing my choice. It was good to hear you say you were faster on yours, areo or not. I needed to here that .
Oddly enough, I was also weighing a Reacto myself. I can't say anything about Reacto since I've never ridden it but I am 110% happy with my Orca. Has everything one needs, nothing you don't. Had plenty of "aero" bikes in my past and I don't feel missing out one bit.
Great video and thanks for the honest comments. Yes Orbea bikes are expensives for the components. Yes i know i live in Spain.
Love your Hunt wheels, next on my shopping list.
Hi there! I actually felt that it was priced NOT as expensive as others as far as my bike's price. Could have been worse for sure. Thanks for your time watching!!!
Thank you for your inspiring video. I immediately started looking for an M20. I found one (built in 2022) that is specified as 9.17 kg (20.15 lbs). Was the bike really that heavy in its original state? Since the weight of the Orbea Ready 19 wheelset is not listed anywhere, I am concerned.
Thanks very much
Rainer. Thank you for the question. My Orca was 20.0 lbs fresh out of box. The Ready19 wheels are grossly heavy. I was able to bring the weight down to about 17lbs just by swapping to a reasonable set of wheels, an integrated cockpit, etc.
I have a 2021 Orca OMX M21eLTD with SRAM Force and I absolutely love it! Same Schwalbe tires on the the stock Vision 40 wheels. Super comfy and holds speed very well. Like you said not the lightest bike, my 13 year old Trek Madone was quite a bit lighter, but the power transfer on climbs is awesome. Great review!
Thank you Peter! Means a ton to me a fellow rider digging a video I put together! Thanks again!
I ride a 2021 Orca Aero (the cheapest one at the time). If I had a little more budget I would have gone for the Orca.
I designed my with the MyO and used the orange as secondary colour. I couldn't buy an Orbea without that colour ;)
I'm quite sad that completly threw away that design for their lightweight thing.
You and I are in an agreement that the new gen Orga doesn't quite tickle the same way...
Epic review! Thank you. Can you please tell me what handlebar you upgraded to? Can you share a link please?
Thank you Sukhdev! The bar is just a carbon Zipp Aero you can see on their website.
I just want it because of that beautiful colour 😄 And I love the look of dropped seat stays personally. Great review, thanks!
Can't argue with ya LOL! Can't go wrong with the Orbea Orange! Thanks for your time watching!
How would you compare the Orca to the Soloist? What’s your preference/why?
Thank You for the Great Review ! Now I just have to hope and get one for the Summer of 2022.
Hi Mike, thanks a ton for your time watching! Hopefully the bike industry supply chain improves by then for you to get what you want without much of a struggle! Thanks again and have a great day!
Just bought a 2023 M30i with the 105 di2 gruppo. Test rode the $11k OMX version at the shop, super fast and lightweight but definitely not worth Ducati money. On the plus side you can get some good deals on carbon wheels right now, the Hunt 4454’s are only $934 for the set. I’ll definitely have to upgrade the crap box section alloys for some aftermarket hoops. Have you had any problems with the Hunts or the Orbea for that matter?
CONGRATS!!! First, 4454 is a great set of wheels in terms of bang for buck regardless of its price tag. LOVE LOVE those wheels. The stock factory wheels that came with my Orca, boy those were definitely there just so you can roll out of a shop with. As to the Orca, I reckon it's one of the best value you can get. What a phenomenal bike...
I have the M30...i feel the same way about the handlebar. About to fit my new one
ya feel me, I feel ya. :)
I'f you like the ride quality and geometry of this bike you should check our the giant anyroad. It's near identical. Unfortunately they stopped making it. I managed to pick up a second hand one. Some places still offer it for between 1400 / 1200 new if you can find one. The orca and anyroad look very different but the geometry and ride quality and fell is identical.
grabbing a M25 TEAM next week. So excited!! Which wheels are on the Orca and size?
Hi Daniel. The wheels I am rolling on my Orca are Hunt 44/55. My Orca shown in this video is 51.
Great review, Just bought the M30, Titan, no orange unfortunately...
CONGRATS. Orca M series, superb value and ride. Thanks Loukas!
As regards the out front mount, I received my orca in January, like you first ride it came loose. Took it back to my dealer, the guy used locktite on the small screws and it’s been solid since
Glad to hear it. I thought about doing something similar as mentioned in the video but thought to myself, is this really the proper way to secure it as a hack or is this a bodge LOLOLOL and decided against it. Nonetheless a cool little mount! Thanks Conrad for your time watching!!!
@@DiabeticCycling No problem man. Loved the video!
Thanks for your intelligent and in depth review. Most enjoyable. You took 2.5 lbs off the out of the box weight. Did you do this entirely by replacing only the wheels and bar? I assume 17.5 is Without pedals. I am looking at the 2022 OMR frame with SRAM rival AXS. Thanks
Wheels, tires, bar and saddle were replaced.
thx for your very common sensed and extensive review. i am in fact very eager to go for an orca, good to hear about that ride feeling. i am still struggling to get my head around the decision of M20 vs. M20i, since i would need to fork out additional 1.400,- Euros just for that. All Di2-users claim they would never go back. I, for myself, ride manual since ages and my current ultegra 6800 from 2010 still works fine and i have nothing to complain about. Your review reopened my thoughts towards staying mechanical. so the question goes: was your pick for the M20 a conscious decision against Di2 (mechanical cheaper to replace if damaged e.g.), driven by price-point or driven by availability?
Hi Lars! Thanks for your time watching and this LOADED question LOL!!! I currently ride 3 bikes that are electronically shifting and 2 bikes that are mechanically shifting. Do I prefer electronic shifting over mechanical? Yes but only by very small margins. The 2 that I ride with mechanical including the Orca, I have zero issues or concerns. They are simplicity at its finest, tried and true, and have that "familiar" feelings. That said, you would future-proof yourself a bit by taking on electronic groupset since an investment towards a bike is not a small expense. At the same time, nothing wrong with going with a mechanical drivetrain which will give you years of joy riding which is the whole point. I've seen some issues with Di2 as great as it is, and that's not a biased opinion just because I am predominantly a SRAM rider. Either or, you will have pros and cons going electronic vs mechanical. As to my decision on the one I ride, my decision was based on all the things you mentioned. I didn't care to spend extra for Di2, price at the time was on point, and it was basically the only 51cm Orca available anywhere in the US which is just ridiculous. And it was this absolutely annoying orange color which I could not say no to. :)
Guitars AND bikes?? Sir I tip my cap to you. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 (nice EVH behind your right shoulder! Subscribed!)
Great review I was looking at the Orca size 51 so perfect review. Love that you can customise colours etc.
One question: How tall are you??
Hi Steve! I am 5'10" or 1m75cm depending on what you are familiar with. Typical sizing would have me on a larger bike but I always ride one size smaller for a few reasons. I do have a larger RUclips channel dealing with guitars, just look up GuitarGearGuy :) Thanks for your time and the sub Steve!!!! Much appreciated!
Great video! Thanks. Love the lool of the bike. Went for a Rose Reveal due to availability.
Thank you for your time watching and CONGRATS on the Rose!
How was shifting performance? And did the performance degrade overtime because the cables are bent and routed through the head tube?
Hello from the UK. Just found your channel - your content is excellent.
Think I'm going to buy this bike too!
Such kind words, thank you Ollie!
Great review. I’m looking into the OMX as frame-only option, and this is very helpful.
Great to hear!
Great review!!! The m30 being an industry bargain (up there with the canyon) even after the price increase! I believe u can choose for a no riser handlebar when u place the order.
Thank you for kind words! You would be correct in saying you can choose how you want it equipped when you order through MYO. I bought mine as-is from a dealer who had it in stock so I ended up with however it was built which had that dumb bar I didn't care for LOL... I noticed Orbea did increase the price a bit this year and probably possibly again in coming year but again, still competitive if you ask me.
@@DiabeticCycling 2500€ now in Germany. Quite happy I got it before the prices increased again. Thanks for the quality video btw!
@@Byerly92 Awesome to hear! Thanks for your time and the kind words! Enjoy the ride and keep the rubber side down~~
Hey there I just found your Channel and absolutely loved the review, top notch! I noticed your hand brace and was just wondering what kind of issues you were having, I have been in thumb/hand/forearm braces for about three years now and finally found a set of exercises that has liberated me! Please let me know if I can help, and I’ll be checking out some of your other videos in the meantime!
Aw thank you Mike!!! I appreciate your time watching for sure! I have so many ailments everywhere, it's hard to keep track LOL!!! During the time of this recording, I was suffering from De Quervain's tenosynovitis rendering my thumb and wrist worthless... I am about 99% better now with Cortisone shot plus physical therapy. Thanks so much for your kind words and looking out!
Great video. I pick up my 51cm next week. What’s the length of your cranks? I’m 5’8”
I run 170mm cranks on all my bikes.
Enjoyed your inputs - Than you.
If not inappropriate, my I inquire your overall height.
Please also share the length of the stem.
Thanks
Hi Jai. I am 175cm, 5'10" tall. I usually ride one size smaller because I have long torso and short legs :). the stem that came with the bike is 100mm.
This is a great review. I am waiting in anticipation for mine. One small suggestion - it would be great to have more shots of the bike in the review. Otherwise, thanks.
Thanks Tim! I tried my best to shove in where it seemed fitting but I will definitely take your words in mind for future episodes. Thanks again!
@@DiabeticCycling It was a positive comment! I enjoyed looking at your bike. I have received my M20iTeam in raw carbon and appreciate your insight before I purchased it - thanks again. Out of curiosity, what handlebars do you use and does it still allow the internal routing? I remember spotting some Zipps.
@@timkemp5154 The bar I am using on my Orca is Zipp Aero Carbon. I didn't get it for its "aero" property but for its wide surface area at the top for "more" space to rest my hands. I find it very comfortable which many would argue how it shouldn't be. Just did a 130 mile ride and my hands were very well taken care of LOL
Hey man, great indepth video. I'm hoping to get the M30 model as I don't think i can stretch to the M20. Random question where did you get your bottle cages? nice colour matching! i'm also going to check out the Hunt wheels also.
The bottle cages are sold everywhere including Amazon. Elite makes them and they come in various colors and price points. Thanks for your time watching, Paul! Much appreciated!!!!
Great review, thank you! Liked and subscribed
Love it, thank you so much!
Great video mate! I was literally enjoying every minute of your review! I have Orbea Orca OMR M25 team with Di2. I fully share your thoughts about the handling of the bike. Even though the bike weights around 1kilo more than my previous one it is actually faster because of the better power transfer. I would like to ask what is the model of your bars. Because I am definitely looking for those? Thanks!
GREAT to hear! Thanks for your time watching! The bar is the new Zipp Aero SL.
Nice review. I just purchased the same bike and same color as yours (only choice available) - though I drool for the white one. My only planned upgrade is a set of carbon wheels. Any issue you have so far with this bike? Thanks.
No issues other than what I already mentioned here which isn't much. A set of wheels will bring a whole new life to this bike guaranteed. CONGRATS!
@@DiabeticCycling Thank you!!
@@DiabeticCycling btw -where did you get those bottle cage? Looks really nice on the bike.
It's a great bike. Very good video. Greetings from Greece...
Thank you so much, Dimitrios!
Hi! Just watched your review of the Zipp 303s and the Hunt 4454 and now this one. I am going to pick up my Orbea Orca M20 in 5 days and looking for a good wheelset in the same price range as the mentioned Zipps and Hunts. Wanted to ask you what wheelset you would recommend now after a few more months (I am not climbing)? Also, I am 1.82m high but picking up frame size 57 as I want it more comfortable for longer rides on weekends, are there any changes from the stock Orca you would recommend me? Thank you!
Thanks for your time watching. As to wheels, if you plan to only ride flats, definitely go as aero as you can spend. 50mm or so and deeper, but do keep in mind deeper they get, more impact you will negotiate when there's cross wind. If the stock Orca comes with their riser bar, you may like it since you said you opt for comfort. I dumped it cause I didn't like the additional rise. Great value for money the Orca is, I'd spend as much as possible on wheels opting to save everywhere else. A great set of wheels will bring new life. Congrats and safe riding!
@@DiabeticCycling hey! thank you for your time spending in responding! I will take a look at wheelset with 50mm in the same price range as the Zipp 303s.. maybe Hunts are the way to go.. I dont have the opportunity to test so I have to buy and hope to not make a mistake lol
@@bmatic1319 Honestly, Hunts have some awesome wheels at sweet price point. So many wheels are super overpriced... Also, Hunts had some epic customer service when I was dealing with them. They got aluminum ones at well below $1k and then various price point with their carbon offerings. I'm sure you can find something that will fit your needs and budget. (I have zero affiliation with them, this is an honest recommendation)
@@DiabeticCycling thank you very much!
Great review of the bike, was planning to buy it soon, you mentioned that your bike size is 51, what is your height? There is 1 review where the rider is 170cm/5’7 buying the same bike size as yours and when he went for a bike fitting the bike was to big for him
Thank Mohammad for your kind words. Bike fit is an animal that could be debated of course since everyone is built differently and also having different preferences. I am 175cm/5'10". I am built with a longer torso than should and shorter legs unfortunately so I alway size down and then use setback on the post to put me a bit behind to make my center not to be too forward compensating for my torso.
Hi thanks for the video. I'm looking at picking up an Orca m30 (105) or giant defy advanced 2. I'm currently riding a GT Grade alloy sora. I would like something comfortable and not too harsh riding and afraid orbra may be too stiff. How do the orca compare to the defy in your experience?
Hi Hotsky. Thanks for your time watching. Orca is in my current rotation obviously and I've had pleasure of riding a few different Defys in the past. I really don't think you can go wrong either way in terms of comfort. Both will give you great geometry to find comfort in. I have ridden several century rides aboard my Orca and never came off the bike feeling beaten down. You mentioned "stiff" and that's the keyword here. It is stiff where needs to be for proper acceleration where its geometry and versatility in tire sizes can get you all the comfort you need. Do see if you can make wheel upgrade as that is monumental. That said, Defy line is a great line of bikes and should be just as nice.
@@DiabeticCycling I ended up getting the orca m30.:) Got one short 25mile ride in so far (pretty cold here in Canada in late December haha). Looking forward to longer rides when the weather improves.
Hello again, I was looking at the colors on the Orbea website, and was wondering if the color of your bike is electric orange or mango? I have not seen either in the store and will probably order through their website. Electric red, and one of the orange colors.
Hi Frank. I believe it's Electric Orange.
Im in the market for a new road bike and thinking about getting this one. thanks for the great review. I like the aero bars you installed, can you share their brand/make? Thanks.
Hi Rod. My cockpit shown here which I still rock is Zipp SL70 Aero.
@@DiabeticCycling thank you -- I'll see if that works for my new orbea too. Cheers
I am a newbie in this sport. If I may ask what is your height and which frame size did you get? I’m 5”6 and thinking of getting the 51 sized frame. But doing my “research” online you can go a bigger size for a more comfortable ride. However the stand over height is over 1inch from my inseam length. I would really appreciate it if you can share your advice. Thanks
Hi Kram! Thanks for your time watching and also reaching out. Questions you have, those are LOADED questions. 5'6", I'd go look from 49cm to 52cm (where 50-51 would be sweet spot). One company's 50cm could be very different than another company's 50cm, so that's not how you should look however. I'd pay more attention to Stack and Reach. Going larger in size for comfort, that is absolutely not true. Fit is very important for road bikes although I am not a super anal elitist for the topic. When in doubt, you can go one size smaller but NEVER larger. You actually will be more uncomfortable by going larger as your seatpost will be buried more in the seat tube robbing you of compliance. I am 5'10" but I have typical old Asian man proportion where I am all torso and shorter legs. In result, I always ride bikes one size smaller than what shops and fitter would try like 54cm. I buy bikes as if I were 5'7" with my inseam being 30. The Orca in this video is 51cm, my BMC is also 51cm. I also ride a Giant TCR which is small. For Canyon, I would fit best on Small. So depending on how you are proportioned being 5'6", you will definitely find one from 49-52 depending on which brand and how geometry is set on a particular model. I hope that helps. These questions you have, I could go on for 2 hours straight explaining LOL... Take care.
Great review! I have an orca m30 model, mind u share how to lower the stem? Do u cut the steerer tube yourself?
Hi Amiry. Well you can cut it yourself but this is one job I would recommend you take to a shop you trust. Definitely must measure 10 times and make 1 solid cut.
Good job! Love your review.
Thanks David! Much appreciated!
Nice review...spot on. I have the M30 and love it. However, yes-forget about the integrated computer mount-weak and shaky so ditched it. Saddle and wheels have to go but otherwise perfect. Handlebar works for me. Only bike in it’s price range with proper internal cabling. Can go up to 32mm tires but found they pushed the already close toe overlap on my 53cm frame. Usually go with 54 so sizing down was appropriate.
Couldn't agree more!
I love my orca but haaate that outfront mount as well. My bolts ended up snapping after a couple rough roads. Waste of money!
LOL my sentiment exactly! So you have the same bike, and the same last name as yours truly?!?!
@@DiabeticCycling NICE! And by looking at your videos we probably know some of the same people from Kore! Small world.
@@Scott-ep5kr Have I had the pleasure of riding with you at some point in the past at a KORE event?
@@DiabeticCycling Probably not! I've actually never joined a ride yet 😅
Hi. What is your height?
Frame is size 51
Very nice review!!!!
Do some guitar video you have a nice collection
Very good review thumbs up. How about to get the OMX to compare?
Thank you so much for your kind words, Suryo. Unfortunately I'm just a regular guy without special access to bikes for reviews like the professional guys do. And for personal use, I wouldn't need to get another Orbea since I'm pretty happy with this M20 currently. Thanks again!
@@DiabeticCycling keep inspiring
What the next upgrade?
Hi Shah. For this particular bike, I don't have anything immediately planned as it rides just the way I like after the wheels etc. I may look ahead far down the road and perhaps think about testing 12sp Shimano if/when it comes out. Other than that, nothing else currently. :) Are you working on upgrades for yours?
Thank you for this great, informative review. Bought Orca M20 just a week ago and absolutely loving the ride. Would have preferred white or orange, but currently in UK you can only get one colour - titanium gloss. Stock tyres are very average, as you said and I replaced it with GP’s5000. Looking forward to a ride later today.
Hope you are back by now from your ride, and enjoyed your bike!
Hello, do you happen to know the weight of the ready 19 wheels?
Hi Arthur. Unfortunately no but they were "heavy".
what's the name of the song that starts at 1:29?
Thanks for review. How tall are you (in cm)?
I am 177cm or 5'10" but my height shouldn't really be considered as I have a body that isn't very proportional. I have longer torso with shorter legs for a man 177cm. So I ride frames always one size smaller typically as if I were 170cm. Thanks for your time watching!
@@DiabeticCycling thanks for you answer. I'm 172 cm. I think I should choose size 51.
Have u tried the trek emonda sl 2021/2022?
Hi Marcus. Emonda SL or SLR is on my list to ride for sure. That said, my Factor and Pinarello will take up most number of miles this year unless I can get a hold of an Emonda unexpectedly readily available. We shall see. Do you have one? If so, How do ya like?
@@DiabeticCycling hi, I would love to hear your review on the factor. What factor model do u have? I am also very interested in the factor 02/02 vam. I do not have the trek, but love the design
@@DiabeticCycling oh I just saw your review on the factor ostro haha sorry
Beautiful bike
혹시 7x10 레일 안장도 사용가능한가요? 감사합니다!
안녕하세요~ 일단 이모델에 쫓아오는 앁포스트는 노말한 안장레일용이긴합니다. 7x10카본레일이면 앁포스트를 바꾸시는쪽이 좋을듯합니다. ^^
@@DiabeticCycling 네 정말 감사합니다!!
Orbea claims you can fit 35mm tires. Do you feel that's an exaggeration?
Might depend on the wheels' native width but I reckon you can definitely put on 35s.
what kind of bar did you used?
Hi Bartlomeij. It's a Zipp SL Aero
Like your videos!
Aw, thank you! I still have my Nikon D90, too!
Weight?
She as shown in this video at the time was 17.75 lbs.
I know it's kinda douchey, but it really bugs me that the OMR designation is now their lower level carbon and layup. In 2015/2016 model year OMR was Orbea Monocoque Race and was the top end frame. OMP was the lower level P designating performance. Gotta be honest and it's lame, but having OMR emblazoned on my top tube when it was a significant increase over OMP But NOW signifies lower end is bullshit and a shitty move by Orbea. Still the best frame I've ever ridden though.
Hey Mike. Agreed on all points. It's a superb ride and one that never disappoints. Love my OMR Orca immensely myself.