You know the now generation is very lucky to have these videos and people like Troy. I took years to learn to control pick depth and motion with no one to teach me. Now one just have to watch it on RUclips
Even cheap guitars are now very playable and sound good on top of that. Instead of crappy midi sound bytes can now replicate amps with plug-ins that are hard to tell apart from real thing. Old dvds/vhs were blurry now you can see everything in 4k.
Very, VERY lucky. Most pre internet people have not developed their playing or it's been extremely slow because information has not been available and/or affordable. Seeing an old dude playing decently or well, one can usually expect that person to have had to put more time into it.
17:25 Teemu's face when he plays something that doesn't sound good. "So this is what it feels like to be mortal.... " Poor guy doesn't know what to do with himself.
I love Les Paul model guitars, I really do, but I got to tell you, that Ibanez is BEAUTIFUL! I fell in love with it, it is pure beauty... and excellent video as always!
I've known the existence of the Code series but never gave too much attention on it. I've noticed I've been a downward slanter whole my life and that's why I never could play strats due to the volume pot location. I think I'm on my way reworking my whole picking technique from holding the pick, slanting both ways and focusing on pick depth to mention a few. I've always liked playing loud with an effort but it comes at the cost of efficiency, stamina and speed. It's amazing Troy how deep you've investigated this topic, identifying all the different motions which in different combinations likely affect why players have their own sound, comfort licks and style in general.
Thinking FR should create an insert "block" to go under the strings, between the pickups that would be able to modify ANY guitar to do this as well. It would be adjustable as well.
I have got two guitars. The first Ibanez saves the pick with her board and the second Epiphone where the strings are very high over the deep board were initially hard to play but now I use both of the techniques. As said, you can learn it with gypsy jazz aproach
Troy, it's funny you posted this, just the other day I put a palm tree pop socket between the pickups on my guitar and noticed that having the space filled in by a flat surface would probably help people with their picking (my biggest problem though growing up had always been picking and hitting air since my technique uses just the very tip of the pick) but it's so crazy how guitar brains think alike sometimes.
So just extend the fretboard to the bridge? Probably just for solid body electrics. On an acoustic guitar it would be tapping sounds on the body. Unless it had a rubber surface.
I have My own made guitar, with simillar patent. I invented this Years before, and now to gain speed im geting this guitar from my closset. Sorry for My English. Sentense is... If You really want to Play faster with this guitar, You should Play NORMAL IN YOUR STYLE, with Your own escape picking moves, but trying to do anything, to NOT TOUCH THE GUITAR BODY. This is the exercise , that will help You.... Minimal movements, pick with good sound, and this exercise will help You to Play faster in future at every guitar You want. F.R. made something amaizing. First You Play with body contact, and then You are trying to avoid slapping the body, and at this moment You are gaining speed.
Floyd Rose? What happened to Kahler? Steinberger? I gave up on Floyd Rose and decked my tremolo. I could not tune the guitar correctly, nor intonate it. I also do not know how to properly use locking tuners. Some of the older Fender style Kluson tuners work fine for me. I know you men are on the cutting edge of technology and are great in your skill. I wish I had it, but it is not to be without proper instruction. More power to you. Your tone is wonderful, your melody is pleasant. Best wishes.
Isn't it going to get scratched all to hell where the pick is constantly hitting the wood? You would think that would be a perfect place for a pick guard.
Most picks are not hard enough to scratch the almost glass-hard surface of a glossy finished guitar. Most scratches are not due to the pick, but due to either dust or fingernails.
Actually the real problem which this eliminates is getting hung up on the PICK UP Yngwie uses a double Stack SINGLE COIL to avoid the pick up , Dimebag insisted on using a High pick up bezel to keep from wacking into the pick up and damaging it so i think this is a good invention . If you play metal you've got to have that pick up up high . if you don't think that matters you don't play METAL \m/\m/
Absolutely gorgeous composition at the start! I don’t know if Teemu will ever see this but I have been dying to see some sort of playthrough or breakdown for “A light from the shore”. It’s the final easter egg song from Black Ops 4 zombies and is an incredible composition. Kevin Sherwood has always blown me away with his compositions for Treyarch Zombies and have been my favourite music from any series/game/e.t.c. God knows I’ve already bugged the hell outta Kevin on his Yt channel but maybe he or Teemu might see this because I absolutely adore the song!!
Did you find that after using the speed guide that when you went back to another guitar you played differently? Did it modify your playing style after using it?
@@troygrady Thank you! I have been playing Jazz III XL (red) for many years, I have tried again a small version after watching your video about those picks but it is definitely not for me.
Troy, is it worth to apply less attack in 100% of cases? I mean if we have a weak attack playing an acoustic guitar, it would be a sad sight. In the same way I assume we need to control and apply different levels of attack playing overdriven sound, but not completely distorted. I have always preferred attack over speed, though sometimes suffering from it. But in exchange there is more dynamic in the play, which is essential in music. Secondly I believe having strong attack is not a verdict and it's still possible to speed it up at a decent degree. Now I'm thinking about Joscho Stefan and others. What is your opinion about attack and do you apply different amount of it when playing different instruments/genres? Thanks, Dmitry
Not really sure I'm understanding the question, but keep in mind that "attack" and "pick depth" aren't the same thing. For example, you can hold a pick more loosely and get a softer attack, without varying how much pick hits the string. And vice versa, you can grip more strongly and force the pick to push through the string for a louder sound. Everything has its place musically.
@@troygrady oh, you're right, attack and pick depth aren't the same thing. I guess i took it wrongly. Now it makes sense. Thanks for the explanation, love your videos!
I was just working out 3 string arps with Marshall Harrisons Hybrid concept , it becomes easy . Then you see Marshall do it 3X faster than yngwie speed and your concept of fast goes away !
One does not simply get up there and shred with Teemu...oh..wait.. :) Teemu's sweeps slowed down to wobbly death actually sound exactly like the way I can sweep, so that's for the good news. The bad news is I'm doing it 12.765 times too slow for it to sound decent :D
Their faces in the beginning are how guitarists should look when they play, not like other artists who look like they're sitting on the toilet pushing a big one the whole time lol.
For pure sweeping across several strings I thought it was fine. You can just slide the pick on the body, right across. However I'm not sure that's what Floyd intended - I think he wants you to avoid hitting the body, so you learn to use a small amount of pick on the string.
For heaven's sake, could you just please get that blabbermouth Teemu take a break from so much talking. Poor Troy couldn't get a word in edge wise. :-)
Fun tidbit, you can hear Floyd Rose himself completely RIPPING SHIT UP on the two albums he did with Q5 in the 80’s. Monstrous guitar solos. So glad we got to play a few gigs with them during their brief reunion!
I stumbled on this channel a few years ago and to this day I can't understand how it doesn't have millions of subs. This is by far one of the best guitar channels on YT. The in depth breakdown of the picking hand is something no one else is doing and the graphics are always incredible. Keep rocking Troy!
Eu adoro assistir o Troy, mesmo não entendo o que ele fala, fico apenas reduzindo como palhetar corretamente. Até hoje tenho dificuldades na palhetada. Estou com 65 anos e o Troy superou em todos, com detalhes nas câmeras. Fantástico!
It's because even though many people may own a guitar, (acoustic,) polls show that only about 10% of beginners were recorded to actually show interest in guitar, but that number fluctuated during the pandemic. And, that's even with 50% of the population liking hard rock and heavy metal. So, if you're a guitarist - you're one of just a few.
Because no one that's actually a professional musician or renowned or famous for playing the guitar either watched or needed this channel. And what it's trying to sell (note this channel uploads adverts for a paid service not teaching material) really isn't even 1% of guitar playing or musicianship. You can see the blindingly obvious (a) You need the pick not to hit the strings when you don't want it to and (b) you need it to hit the string when you do want it to. Now you've learned everything Troy knows about playing the guitar in two sentences. The rest is fluff and filler. There's no point watching any more. Except to note there's plenty of ways of picking. The real key thing to note today is that the latest guitarist people are getting excited about doesn't even use a pick. So if he can play really well (and he can - significantly better than the vast majority of guitar players) then clearly nothing Troy has ever said matters at all. You don't even need to use a pick to play guitar. The sad thing is how many potential musicians might waste time or money watching this crap - but I'd suggest that most people who are going to become musicians won't fall into the trap (because they'll instinctively see that of all the skills and knowledge they need to acquire this isn't a significant part and certainly not something they would have to spend significant time fussing over at the exclusion of other, far more important, skills. The bottom line is : the vast majority of guitarists learn how to do this while they're busy learning a bunch of more difficult and key skills - skills that Troy doesn't have. Unless you really are only interested in so-called 'shredding' but there aren't millions of people who are.
Because this good man does not understand the art of brevity. People who want to do this want to know how to do it; they do not want a bloody 45 minute dissertation on every detail of his thoughts. He could teach the technique in ten minutes; the rest is up to the diligence of the individual.
Man that intro was so good! The part at 0:43 especially is one of the best phrases I've heard in a while! I have to learn that now haha.. Did you write it yourself?
This thing should be made of a hardened silicone with some adhesive around the perimeter. Thus it could be mounted on any guitar. Of ocurse variant with different pickups, etc.
@@lancethrustworthy I hope So. I want to try one on my ESP. That Floyd Roseneck looks like crap...lol. I think i recall someone saying something like this is already available for bass players...to control finger picking depth.
Thank you for this video. I am definitely struggling with pick depth consistency and was highly curious about this innovation. I feel like I just finished a physics course or something. You guys are wizards and it's a great time to be a guitar player. Great video, thank you!
Troy seems to get leaner, younger and better with time and his chops are getting better everyday...keep it up Troy. All thanks to your Carl Miner bundle, I discovered cross picking and am in the process of cleaning my technique...The way camera angles are used and explanatory details are provided, a light bulb (more like a Halogen lamp) lit up in my mind....No words to thank Troy... How I wish he would do the same for left hand...How I fervently wish...🤘🤘🤘
I 'member that. I never could master it, even after a WHOLE two months. That was ....25 years ago? I'm thinking about getting one now (they are still for sale) to see how my pick depth has improved.
@@Take-the-Ticket I would rather have the stylus pick again, as the necessity of altering a guitar to achieve the same ends seems rather redundant. Yes, you can STILL purchase them :)
This is the floating pick approach that Matt Smith talks about in his book on "Speed" - the less of the pick is hitting the string the faster you can play. I also heard about it in a seminar on picking years back, It's also a dynamic control approach ( if you want to play louder you increase the plucking depth when hitting a string), It may not apply so much to high gain playing. The stylus picks that came out in the late 80's and early 90's play on this. I believe John Taylor currently uses one.
@Meh...whatever Dave Celentano talks about that, basically breaks it down to a sort of "rule" - ("As far as picks go, The heavier, the faster"). Watching EVH play though, knowing he doesn't use a heavy pick per se, that really isn't true. There's more variables to consider.
Troy: 1. Troy, you should keep the memory regarding the training wheels. I'm not familiar with a "balance bike," but it HAS TO BE better than training wheels! Those things really suck. I remember, same as you, that when I took them off, I could balance and ride. You see, the rider needs to be able to tilt the bike, that's the only way to learn balance! And it usually only takes a few seconds, minutes at most. Most of the "learning" is coordinating our limbs to pedal, steer and lean the bike, all at the same time...while balancing. Those things can happen pretty quickly in the brainstem, maybe quicker if the person (child) gets some experience doing the other things besides balancing. 2. I wish I had access to those fancy camera clamp thingies. They are cool, even if they do get in the way a little. Very helpful as a learning tool. Maybe someday if I ever give lessons, I'll invest in (or build) some. 3. This was a VERY HELPFUL video, on so many levels! It helped me learn what I need to master to perfect several techniques. 4. Nothing better than to hear expert level wailing, harmonizing guitar leads! The rest of the video (the real meat) was SUCH a bonus! Thanks to both of you for your time, your open and frank comments on the techniques, the equipment, the demonstrations... everything! Thank you both, SO MUCH! I really learned a lot, plus I was entertained by the music, the conversation, all of it. Thank you, thank you, thank you, from my heart, sincerely!
Pick Depth is definitely slowing me down and I've noticed that once I changed from a LP to an Ibanez RG. The depth on the Rg is nothing compared with a LP. But I also have an RGA and the depth, still less than a LP, is deeper than the regular RG. 1.4 cm on the RGA 1cm on the RG. it makes a huge difference, specially for a mediocre guitarrist like me. This video is gold!!
This looks like an expensive "fix" for what is a simple everyday beginner guitarists problem. Rather than this a few hours spent learning about holding picks correctly would be alot cheaper solution. Malmsteen, Vai, satriani, Wylde to name a few don't have this issue of pick depth and control...... I bet the finish under the strings will get bashed to hell making it look awful and create areas that could catch the pick from underneath
It absolutely is just that. But still a decent tool to develop good habits. For the beginner rich kids who definitley never go on to become pro musicians :) BUT I think it would be super cool to see some thru-bodies continue the neck radius through the whole body. I just like the idea of it...
kkarx everyone can play guitar. It’s not just about talent or making it. People play for the enjoyment of it. No one “makes it” as a guitarist these days.
Troy you have created something awesome and of incredible value to me .As a left-handed player Who plays like a right-handed player all my life I struggled with limitations of right-hand speed! all my life! If you want to do a study on left hand players playing like right handers and maybe do a video of your method working for ambidextrous playing I would be all in for that. I always used to believe that due to being a left-hander who plays like a right-hander was the main reason for my struggling with maximum speeds both in picking with a pic and in fingerpicking, Simply by watching your series I have watched my right hand become more loose I also do exercises where are use both hands simultaneously doing the same move for months using mirrors and simultaneous in the air moving of both hands , trying to fool my brain into thinking my right hand is my left hand. I have noticed some interesting things where working with a mirror ,similar to what stroke patients do ( DOIGE Neuroplasticity Studies for ex : The brain that changes itself) that if I look from the top down at my hand at either the right or the left hand with a mirror covering one hand _ my brain can be fooled into thinking it’s actually looking at the opposite hand, Something very interesting happened not only when I put a mirror on the left side to make my right think that it’s my left hand , which is my main hand! did the right hand speed up but the opposite also happens that : when I put a mirror where the right hand is so That my brain was thinking the mirror image it was seing of the left-hand moving was actually the right hand- it then slowed my left hand which is fast down! This made me realise that the nerves and muscles are the same exact on both sides of the body and speed limits in both hands are solely due to wiring in the brain which can be rewired using primary training techniques! The brush your teeth test: so while can you brush your teeth easier with your main hand the right hand if you’re a right-hander or the left-hand if you’re a left-hander, brushing your teeth with much more detail and faster and more control with your main hand is what usually people do. Often the differences are extreme. Now with watching your videos and only thinking about for hours a day pathways in my brain have started to Open and I can now see myself moving to what has been an unattainable goal for more than 30 years of playing. through a very good career as an acoustic singer and guitar player songwriter , with a high level of skill of articulation rhythm playing and composition on both instruments but always running into a wall with speed in my right hand, this was always something that blocked me mentally, spiritually and sometimes even made me depressed because I knew that my musical talent was much higher than what my right hand was able to deliver, I pull my hat to you sir for creating such incredible value for free and I will gladly join you in your online courses but as I noted before if you do want to work with a left-hander who plays like a right-hander and see how far we can go which I think would be quite interesting then I am very open to maybe doing a video series of my exploits working with you personally . Most respectful and happy greetings from Europe, Chris Shermer
technically yes...but if your pickup is 2mm from the strings, the magnetic field would stop the strings from vibrating, so no sustain...maybe you could set a "practice guitar" for that :-)
Speaking from personal experience, limiting the pick depth only creates bad habits. When you learn to play with this Speed Guide, then you can't play any other guitar anymore. My first electric guitar had an HSS pickup configuration, and my picking hand position was such that when picking, my pick was hovering exactly above the middle pickup. I once adjusted the pickups very close to the strings. After that, everytime I picked, my pick hit the middle pickup, so I didn't have to control the pick depth at all anymore. I noticed that because of this I could play faster and more comfortably, so I continued to play like this for months. However, my wake up call was when I had to play a different guitar without this "speed guide" trick; I could barely pick at all! I had absolutely no control of pick depth anymore, and picking felt VERY awkward, so I basically had to relearn how to pick, and it took a long time. So, my advice to everyone else is to stay away from this Speed Guide, unless you want to ruin your picking technique.
Hey Troy, Paid member here. I would like to see a more in-depth video on how players determined their pick depth and the size pick they use. Maybe it’s on the site and just haven’t found it. Thanks
We haven't really addressed this but the short answer is it's just the feel of the pick on the string. I've noticed that often if I hit a tremolo a little bit too loud or soft on the first pickstroke, by the second or third pickstroke it's perfect. So I think it's really just tactile adjustment based on what feels and sounds smooth to you. If you're asking, what physically do you do to create this, that's a good question and I suspect it's different based on the picking motion you use. But we'd have to look at it.
This is first and so far only time I have somebody (Teemu) to have guitar that can have this low strings I quess the fretboard is lower than normal too, but also that using the body to keeping the pick against it when normally you flaot the pick in the air.
You know the now generation is very lucky to have these videos and people like Troy. I took years to learn to control pick depth and motion with no one to teach me. Now one just have to watch it on RUclips
Watch, AND PRACTICE!
Also you can support him on his website! His lessons are just mind blowing!
Even cheap guitars are now very playable and sound good on top of that. Instead of crappy midi sound bytes can now replicate amps with plug-ins that are hard to tell apart from real thing. Old dvds/vhs were blurry now you can see everything in 4k.
Very, VERY lucky.
Most pre internet people have not developed their playing or it's been extremely slow because information has not been available and/or affordable.
Seeing an old dude playing decently or well, one can usually expect that person to have had to put more time into it.
I've learn most in the years Troy entered RUclips than the past 30 years.
Can't get enough of Dragon Army, amazing piece.
17:25 Teemu's face when he plays something that doesn't sound good. "So this is what it feels like to be mortal.... " Poor guy doesn't know what to do with himself.
Yup, I make that face a lot!
He look so pissed after that 😂
I see Teemu, I click LIKE.
This is one of the most awsome video on youtube, thanks Troy, you are a gift for all of us guitarist 👊
I love Les Paul model guitars, I really do, but I got to tell you, that Ibanez is BEAUTIFUL! I fell in love with it, it is pure beauty... and excellent video as always!
I've known the existence of the Code series but never gave too much attention on it. I've noticed I've been a downward slanter whole my life and that's why I never could play strats due to the volume pot location. I think I'm on my way reworking my whole picking technique from holding the pick, slanting both ways and focusing on pick depth to mention a few. I've always liked playing loud with an effort but it comes at the cost of efficiency, stamina and speed. It's amazing Troy how deep you've investigated this topic, identifying all the different motions which in different combinations likely affect why players have their own sound, comfort licks and style in general.
Didn’t even know I was needing a Floyd Rose specific video for my speed helped so much
Troy rules. He's the PhD in picking tecniques in the modern world. Period. 🙏🏻.
What a beautiful way to start a video. Thanks! This SHREDSS!!
Thanks man!
Teemu is a kick ass guitar player
Thinking FR should create an insert "block" to go under the strings, between the pickups that would be able to modify ANY guitar to do this as well. It would be adjustable as well.
The opening tune was outstanding.
Thanks man!
I have got two guitars. The first Ibanez saves the pick with her board and the second Epiphone where the strings are very high over the deep board were initially hard to play but now I use both of the techniques. As said, you can learn it with gypsy jazz aproach
Yes finally you speak on picking depth.
@@interestingthings8598 Proove me. This was the first i heard him speak about it.
Troy, it's funny you posted this, just the other day I put a palm tree pop socket between the pickups on my guitar and noticed that having the space filled in by a flat surface would probably help people with their picking (my biggest problem though growing up had always been picking and hitting air since my technique uses just the very tip of the pick) but it's so crazy how guitar brains think alike sometimes.
Most guitars have these speed guides build in. You can ALMOST get the exact phenomenon by going up to pick around the fretboard :)
So just extend the fretboard to the bridge?
Probably just for solid body electrics. On an acoustic guitar it would be tapping sounds on the body. Unless it had a rubber surface.
Great interview, Troy and teemu, can you talk about hands and fingers tension someday? Thanks a lot
Stylus pick solved that for me years ago. Great device
Awesome song!
Very well done!
I have My own made guitar, with simillar patent.
I invented this Years before, and now to gain speed im geting this guitar from my closset.
Sorry for My English.
Sentense is... If You really want to Play faster with this guitar, You should Play NORMAL IN YOUR STYLE, with Your own escape picking moves, but trying to do anything, to NOT TOUCH THE GUITAR BODY. This is the exercise , that will help You....
Minimal movements, pick with good sound, and this exercise will help You to Play faster in future at every guitar You want.
F.R. made something amaizing. First You Play with body contact, and then You are trying to avoid slapping the body, and at this moment You are gaining speed.
Watch Troy Grady screw up a guitar virtuoso by trying to change his picking style. Lol
way to troll Teemu with a simple exercise, even at trolling Troy is so smart : P
I am just kiddin of course
Floyd Rose? What happened to Kahler? Steinberger? I gave up on Floyd Rose and decked my tremolo. I could not tune the guitar correctly, nor intonate it. I also do not know how to properly use locking tuners. Some of the older Fender style Kluson tuners work fine for me. I know you men are on the cutting edge of technology and are great in your skill. I wish I had it, but it is not to be without proper instruction. More power to you. Your tone is wonderful, your melody is pleasant. Best wishes.
Give me this and something that stops me lifting my fingers too high from the fretboard and I'll be shredding in no time.
Way to go Troy.
i love the intro song, where can i listen to it in full version?
This IS the full version! We expanded a short soundtrack melody from an earlier video to create this duet. Teemu added the B section.
Isn't it going to get scratched all to hell where the pick is constantly hitting the wood? You would think that would be a perfect place for a pick guard.
Who cares, that thing is mostly a practice guitar. I wouldn't take it on stage.
Yes, but so what? Guitars are meant to be played.
Most picks are not hard enough to scratch the almost glass-hard surface of a glossy finished guitar. Most scratches are not due to the pick, but due to either dust or fingernails.
Hope you make videos for left hand techniques too..
Interesting... I think the same type feat could be accomplished as well by creating something of an arch-topped pickguard you could put on any guitar.
Actually the real problem which this eliminates is getting hung up on the PICK UP
Yngwie uses a double Stack SINGLE COIL to avoid the pick up , Dimebag insisted on using a High pick up bezel to keep from wacking into the pick up and damaging it
so i think this is a good invention .
If you play metal you've got to have that pick up up high .
if you don't think that matters you don't play METAL \m/\m/
I actually feel more comfortably with greater string depth for some reason...
Absolutely gorgeous composition at the start! I don’t know if Teemu will ever see this but I have been dying to see some sort of playthrough or breakdown for “A light from the shore”. It’s the final easter egg song from Black Ops 4 zombies and is an incredible composition. Kevin Sherwood has always blown me away with his compositions for Treyarch Zombies and have been my favourite music from any series/game/e.t.c. God knows I’ve already bugged the hell outta Kevin on his Yt channel but maybe he or Teemu might see this because I absolutely adore the song!!
I'm embarrassed to say I didn't know he had played on that, but his playing and the whole track is awesome. I'll mention the playthrough request.
Troy Grady OH MY GOD YOU’VE JUST MADE MY WEEK!!!!!!!! Thank you so much Troy!! Keep up the great work!!
Is that alright if I use my index finger nail as an upper pick guide? Great vid thought as usual!
did these ever actually get to market as 2 years later i've yet to see 1 not on a youtube demo vid
Does Teemu use a big stubby for a pick?
Did you find that after using the speed guide that when you went back to another guitar you played differently? Did it modify your playing style after using it?
Hello Troy!
Can you tell my is this Jazz III XL or standard Jazz III you are using here?
Great video btw, like always :)
This is the XL. I flip flop, but I've been using that one lately.
@@troygrady Thank you! I have been playing Jazz III XL (red) for many years, I have tried again a small version after watching your video about those picks but it is definitely not for me.
Awemazing
Is there any influence to the tone in comparison to a conventional setup?
Troy with the strings so close to the body of the guitar, the action at the fretboard wasn't too low?
No the action was normal and even a tiny bit higher than Teemu usually plays. The body contour is simply raised up below the strings.
Ibanez Signature WHEN?
22:24
Troy, is it worth to apply less attack in 100% of cases? I mean if we have a weak attack playing an acoustic guitar, it would be a sad sight. In the same way I assume we need to control and apply different levels of attack playing overdriven sound, but not completely distorted. I have always preferred attack over speed, though sometimes suffering from it. But in exchange there is more dynamic in the play, which is essential in music. Secondly I believe having strong attack is not a verdict and it's still possible to speed it up at a decent degree. Now I'm thinking about Joscho Stefan and others. What is your opinion about attack and do you apply different amount of it when playing different instruments/genres?
Thanks, Dmitry
Not really sure I'm understanding the question, but keep in mind that "attack" and "pick depth" aren't the same thing. For example, you can hold a pick more loosely and get a softer attack, without varying how much pick hits the string. And vice versa, you can grip more strongly and force the pick to push through the string for a louder sound. Everything has its place musically.
@@troygrady oh, you're right, attack and pick depth aren't the same thing. I guess i took it wrongly. Now it makes sense. Thanks for the explanation, love your videos!
Anyone has any link to the original song at the intro? He says the name is 'dragon army' but I can't find it after searching
I was just working out 3 string arps with Marshall Harrisons Hybrid concept , it becomes easy . Then you see Marshall do it 3X faster than yngwie speed and your concept of fast goes away !
so it is training wheels for sweeps and single string alternate picking?
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Who is the first song by? Cant dragon army
Isn't that detrimental towards sustain ?
Well, good luck playing finger style or hybrid picking with THAT! *sigh*
Some guitars are not made for fingerstyle. And some are.
This one in particular is Not.
So your comment doesn't make any sense
@Meh...whatever it's done all the time dude, if you practice, you can do pinch harmonics finger style
33:24 yeah, just no
I wonder if you couldn't just devise a sort of 'insert' device on a traditional guitar that achieves the same results?....
One does not simply get up there and shred with Teemu...oh..wait.. :) Teemu's sweeps slowed down to wobbly death actually sound exactly like the way I can sweep, so that's for the good news. The bad news is I'm doing it 12.765 times too slow for it to sound decent :D
Their faces in the beginning are how guitarists should look when they play, not like other artists who look like they're sitting on the toilet pushing a big one the whole time lol.
LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This guitar doesn't work for alternate pickers but how helpful is it for economy pickers?
For pure sweeping across several strings I thought it was fine. You can just slide the pick on the body, right across. However I'm not sure that's what Floyd intended - I think he wants you to avoid hitting the body, so you learn to use a small amount of pick on the string.
@@troygrady Thanks Troy and thank you for all your fantastic work. You are the godfather of picking analysis.
Do you still have to go to meetings?
So, it looks like it's extra wood between the pickups and it keeps the string height consistent from nut to bridge.
the opening part they played reminded me of everything I love about jason and marty in cacaphony
We're not worthy! But "reminded", sure. :)
YES !
That's EXACTLY what I thought when I first heard it!
100% Exactly what I was thinking, too. Nice catch!
Troy has a PhD in picking mechanics
My first thought upon hearing about this speed guide was, "What does Troy Grady have to say about this?" Man, this guy is too good to us.
Correction, "is too GOD to us"
For heaven's sake, could you just please get that blabbermouth Teemu take a break from so much talking. Poor Troy couldn't get a word in edge wise. :-)
I deserve this!
Fun tidbit, you can hear Floyd Rose himself completely RIPPING SHIT UP on the two albums he did with Q5 in the 80’s. Monstrous guitar solos. So glad we got to play a few gigs with them during their brief reunion!
When and where did you play with Q5?
I stumbled on this channel a few years ago and to this day I can't understand how it doesn't have millions of subs. This is by far one of the best guitar channels on YT. The in depth breakdown of the picking hand is something no one else is doing and the graphics are always incredible. Keep rocking Troy!
People want flash and easy ways to do things
Eu adoro assistir o Troy, mesmo não entendo o que ele fala, fico apenas reduzindo como palhetar corretamente. Até hoje tenho dificuldades na palhetada. Estou com 65 anos e o Troy superou em todos, com detalhes nas câmeras. Fantástico!
It's because even though many people may own a guitar, (acoustic,) polls show that only about 10% of beginners were recorded to actually show interest in guitar, but that number fluctuated during the pandemic. And, that's even with 50% of the population liking hard rock and heavy metal. So, if you're a guitarist - you're one of just a few.
Because no one that's actually a professional musician or renowned or famous for playing the guitar either watched or needed this channel. And what it's trying to sell (note this channel uploads adverts for a paid service not teaching material) really isn't even 1% of guitar playing or musicianship. You can see the blindingly obvious (a) You need the pick not to hit the strings when you don't want it to and (b) you need it to hit the string when you do want it to. Now you've learned everything Troy knows about playing the guitar in two sentences. The rest is fluff and filler. There's no point watching any more. Except to note there's plenty of ways of picking. The real key thing to note today is that the latest guitarist people are getting excited about doesn't even use a pick. So if he can play really well (and he can - significantly better than the vast majority of guitar players) then clearly nothing Troy has ever said matters at all. You don't even need to use a pick to play guitar. The sad thing is how many potential musicians might waste time or money watching this crap - but I'd suggest that most people who are going to become musicians won't fall into the trap (because they'll instinctively see that of all the skills and knowledge they need to acquire this isn't a significant part and certainly not something they would have to spend significant time fussing over at the exclusion of other, far more important, skills. The bottom line is : the vast majority of guitarists learn how to do this while they're busy learning a bunch of more difficult and key skills - skills that Troy doesn't have. Unless you really are only interested in so-called 'shredding' but there aren't millions of people who are.
Because this good man does not understand the art of brevity. People who want to do this want to know how to do it; they do not want a bloody 45 minute dissertation on every detail of his thoughts. He could teach the technique in ten minutes; the rest is up to the diligence of the individual.
I’m floored you got to jam with temu. He’s one of my all time favorite players from the modern era.
I see Teemu, I screamu
Nice memu
Agreemu
Haha! 🤣
Gary Willis has had his Ibanez like this(somewhat), for years, just for finger style bass.
The Jim Dunlop Jazz III it's perfect to control your attack. It's the best pick I've ever played and that's thanks to you!
I've been using jazz III picks until I needed to play good strumming on acoustic. It just didn't sound and fell right.
teemu is like if swissgarr swigalf and nathan explosion had a baby. and it came out BRUTALLLL
u could have let teemu speak a little bit more
Yep. It’s always a challenge to shut myself up.
Man that intro was so good! The part at 0:43 especially is one of the best phrases I've heard in a while! I have to learn that now haha.. Did you write it yourself?
This thing should be made of a hardened silicone with some adhesive around the perimeter. Thus it could be mounted on any guitar. Of ocurse variant with different pickups, etc.
"could", Now watch several companies come with exactly that.
@@PaulPaid 'THIS THING'. Yeah, that makes it real clear.
@@lancethrustworthy I hope So. I want to try one on my ESP. That Floyd Roseneck looks like crap...lol. I think i recall someone saying something like this is already available for bass players...to control finger picking depth.
I consider myself as having near mastery of Alternate Picking, it's my top skill. But when I watch these videos I always learn something new.
The opening song sounded like something out of Dynasty Warriors
fucking hilarious, you're right
Troy dedicated his life to shred.
I remember seeing this jock's videos from pre 2010.
What a hero.
I notice both of your guitars have the polepieces lowered below the surface of the plastic pickup covers. Is this so you dont catch the pick on them?
Thank you for this video. I am definitely struggling with pick depth consistency and was highly curious about this innovation. I feel like I just finished a physics course or something. You guys are wizards and it's a great time to be a guitar player. Great video, thank you!
Troy seems to get leaner, younger and better with time and his chops are getting better everyday...keep it up Troy.
All thanks to your Carl Miner bundle, I discovered cross picking and am in the process of cleaning my technique...The way camera angles are used and explanatory details are provided, a light bulb (more like a Halogen lamp) lit up in my mind....No words to thank Troy...
How I wish he would do the same for left hand...How I fervently wish...🤘🤘🤘
Carl is awesome. I love his playing.
Stylus pick - remember that? Same principle - both coming at the same problem from different directions. Very neat either way :)
I 'member that. I never could master it, even after a WHOLE two months. That was ....25 years ago? I'm thinking about getting one now (they are still for sale) to see how my pick depth has improved.
@@Take-the-Ticket I would rather have the stylus pick again, as the necessity of altering a guitar to achieve the same ends seems rather redundant. Yes, you can STILL purchase them :)
This is the floating pick approach that Matt Smith talks about in his book on "Speed" - the less of the pick is hitting the string the faster you can play. I also heard about it in a seminar on picking years back, It's also a dynamic control approach ( if you want to play louder you increase the plucking depth when hitting a string), It may not apply so much to high gain playing. The stylus picks that came out in the late 80's and early 90's play on this. I believe John Taylor currently uses one.
@Meh...whatever Dave Celentano talks about that, basically breaks it down to a sort of "rule" - ("As far as picks go, The heavier, the faster"). Watching EVH play though, knowing he doesn't use a heavy pick per se, that really isn't true. There's more variables to consider.
This reminds me of the "RunBarr" (Easy Roll Guitar Methods) on Johny Hiland's Music Man Silhouette.
You're the man for uploading this! Great to see you guys collaborating as well. Really doing great things for the guitar community, Troy!
Troy:
1. Troy, you should keep the memory regarding the training wheels. I'm not familiar with a "balance bike," but it HAS TO BE better than training wheels! Those things really suck. I remember, same as you, that when I took them off, I could balance and ride.
You see, the rider needs to be able to tilt the bike, that's the only way to learn balance! And it usually only takes a few seconds, minutes at most.
Most of the "learning" is coordinating our limbs to pedal, steer and lean the bike, all at the same time...while balancing. Those things can happen pretty quickly in the brainstem, maybe quicker if the person (child) gets some experience doing the other things besides balancing.
2. I wish I had access to those fancy camera clamp thingies. They are cool, even if they do get in the way a little. Very helpful as a learning tool. Maybe someday if I ever give lessons, I'll invest in (or build) some.
3. This was a VERY HELPFUL video, on so many levels!
It helped me learn what I need to master to perfect several techniques.
4. Nothing better than to hear expert level wailing, harmonizing guitar leads!
The rest of the video (the real meat) was SUCH a bonus!
Thanks to both of you for your time, your open and frank comments on the techniques, the equipment, the demonstrations... everything!
Thank you both, SO MUCH! I really learned a lot, plus I was entertained by the music, the conversation, all of it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, from my heart, sincerely!
Cracking the code is one of the best programs.
Pick Depth is definitely slowing me down and I've noticed that once I changed from a LP to an Ibanez RG. The depth on the Rg is nothing compared with a LP. But I also have an RGA and the depth, still less than a LP, is deeper than the regular RG. 1.4 cm on the RGA 1cm on the RG. it makes a huge difference, specially for a mediocre guitarrist like me. This video is gold!!
Thanks again, Troy!. This videos are super awesome and useful. Also thank you for bringing the truly amazing Teemu!
Always a pleasure to have Teemu in town.
This looks like an expensive "fix" for what is a simple everyday beginner guitarists problem. Rather than this a few hours spent learning about holding picks correctly would be alot cheaper solution. Malmsteen, Vai, satriani, Wylde to name a few don't have this issue of pick depth and control...... I bet the finish under the strings will get bashed to hell making it look awful and create areas that could catch the pick from underneath
It absolutely is just that. But still a decent tool to develop good habits. For the beginner rich kids who definitley never go on to become pro musicians :) BUT I think it would be super cool to see some thru-bodies continue the neck radius through the whole body. I just like the idea of it...
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I wish Troy all good but the whole serie is kinda pointless. If you are talented you will make it without it, if not nothing will help you.
kkarx everyone can play guitar. It’s not just about talent or making it. People play for the enjoyment of it. No one “makes it” as a guitarist these days.
Stylus picks are a cheaper, better, way, that actually trains you to achieve this on your own guitar.
Troy you have created something awesome and of incredible value to me .As a left-handed player Who plays like a right-handed player all my life I struggled with limitations of right-hand speed! all my life! If you want to do a study on left hand players playing like right handers and maybe do a video of your method working for ambidextrous playing I would be all in for that. I always used to believe that due to being a left-hander who plays like a right-hander was the main reason for my struggling with maximum speeds both in picking with a pic and in fingerpicking, Simply by watching your series I have watched my right hand become more loose I also do exercises where are use both hands simultaneously doing the same move for months using mirrors and simultaneous in the air moving of both hands , trying to fool my brain into thinking my right hand is my left hand.
I have noticed some interesting things where working with a mirror ,similar to what stroke patients do ( DOIGE Neuroplasticity Studies for ex : The brain that changes itself) that if I look from the top down at my hand at either the right or the left hand with a mirror covering one hand _ my brain can be fooled into thinking it’s actually looking at the opposite hand, Something very interesting happened not only when I put a mirror on the left side to make my right think that it’s my left hand , which is my main hand! did the right hand speed up but the opposite also happens that : when I put a mirror where the right hand is so
That my brain was thinking the mirror image it was seing of the left-hand moving was actually the right hand- it then slowed my left hand which is fast down! This made me realise that the nerves and muscles are the same exact on both sides of the body and speed limits in both hands are solely due to wiring in the brain which can be rewired using primary training techniques! The brush your teeth test: so while can you brush your teeth easier with your main hand the right hand if you’re a right-hander or the left-hand if you’re a left-hander, brushing your teeth with much more detail and faster and more control with your main hand is what usually people do. Often the differences are extreme.
Now with watching your videos and only thinking about for hours a day pathways in my brain have started to Open and I can now see myself moving to what has been an unattainable goal for more than 30 years of playing. through a very good career as an acoustic singer and guitar player songwriter , with a high level of skill of articulation rhythm playing and composition on both instruments but always running into a wall with speed in my right hand, this was always something that blocked me mentally, spiritually and sometimes even made me depressed because I knew that my musical talent was much higher than what my right hand was able to deliver,
I pull my hat to you sir for creating such incredible value for free and I will gladly join you in your online courses but as I noted before if you do want to work with a left-hander who plays like a right-hander and see how far we can go which I think would be quite interesting then I am very open to maybe doing a video series of my exploits working with you personally . Most respectful and happy greetings from Europe, Chris Shermer
I actually use my middle pickup in a similar way to this...
Good point. I will try this.
That's nuts because I can't play guitars with middle pickups just because of this. I even lower my neck pickup to avoid hitting it.
technically yes...but if your pickup is 2mm from the strings, the magnetic field would stop the strings from vibrating, so no sustain...maybe you could set a "practice guitar" for that :-)
The Speed Guide seems to be made for Economy Picking.
99 prosent of finnish perople think that. teemu is good.
Amazing Teemu and Troy. Love to see you two playing. Yeahhh🤘🤘🤘🤘
Troy is back! And thank you Teemu for reminding me of what I cannot do!
@32:40 Wintersun track Feat. Troy Grady?
Speaking from personal experience, limiting the pick depth only creates bad habits. When you learn to play with this Speed Guide, then you can't play any other guitar anymore. My first electric guitar had an HSS pickup configuration, and my picking hand position was such that when picking, my pick was hovering exactly above the middle pickup. I once adjusted the pickups very close to the strings. After that, everytime I picked, my pick hit the middle pickup, so I didn't have to control the pick depth at all anymore. I noticed that because of this I could play faster and more comfortably, so I continued to play like this for months. However, my wake up call was when I had to play a different guitar without this "speed guide" trick; I could barely pick at all! I had absolutely no control of pick depth anymore, and picking felt VERY awkward, so I basically had to relearn how to pick, and it took a long time. So, my advice to everyone else is to stay away from this Speed Guide, unless you want to ruin your picking technique.
he should be called Mr T. Mantasaurus
Hey Troy, Paid member here. I would like to see a more in-depth video on how players determined their pick depth and the size pick they use. Maybe it’s on the site and just haven’t found it. Thanks
We haven't really addressed this but the short answer is it's just the feel of the pick on the string. I've noticed that often if I hit a tremolo a little bit too loud or soft on the first pickstroke, by the second or third pickstroke it's perfect. So I think it's really just tactile adjustment based on what feels and sounds smooth to you. If you're asking, what physically do you do to create this, that's a good question and I suspect it's different based on the picking motion you use. But we'd have to look at it.
This year’s trans-Siberian orchestra replacements!
Johnny Hiland showed off something like this in his Rig Rundown also.
Yep! The "RunBarr." That's the first thing I thought of when I saw this guitar in a NAMM video the other day.
This is first and so far only time I have somebody (Teemu) to have guitar that can have this low strings I quess the fretboard is lower than normal too, but also that using the body to keeping the pick against it when normally you flaot the pick in the air.
2:33 ...and Megadeth
I hope this guy stays in Megadeth forever