how often should you tune your skis for carving?
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- A QUESTION students ask me a lot. How often should they tune their skis. Here is a basic overview.
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Great advice for people who don't know how often they should tune their skis!
Great lesson!Thank you again.
Took me a decade to learn, why I had epic day of skiing, every time I rented or used demo ski.Secret: skiis were well tuned and snow or type of ski, was not a main factor.
Well fitted ski boots and properly tuned skiis(not over ca.75 mm underfoot),are main factors in skiing.
Once you ski on a tuned ski it's an entirely more pleasurable ride, addicting. I worked as a technician through the 70's and 80's. Things have really changed thanks to technology and available tools. In an earlier post I mentioned having a Moen 6x80 wet belt grinder. I tune every 8 hrs of skiing. Unless there are rocks it doesn't take too much to bring the edge back and a set of stones work great. The worst part is the first tune to get the bases flat mostly then base and side edge bevels. Edges gouges are a different story and to remove those can really compromise the ski in a lot of ways not just life expectancy but can alter the sidecut. When my son was learning to ski he never skied on an untuned ski and later his race coaches were very complimentary. I used to get crap from people about grinding but with the right touch and grit there really isn't much loss. In fact I'm still on a pair of nearly 20 yr old skis (metron B5) because I like the geometry 131/76/113 and the edges are sharp and smooth with no burs. I wish I could find a similar ski because the bindings are not indemnified any longer.
Touching up the edges with a diamond stone between tunes makes a big difference and doesn't remove too much material -as long as rocks are not involved.
Get a home work bench set up out the back away from supervision, include a small bar fridge, give edges at least a touch up with a gummy stone almost every day they have worked hard, ease your throat with a well earned ale while doing so.
The smell of wax and beers 😉
Great and very useful comments as usual, thanks Reilly ! I ski in the east Pyrenees and I need to tune it with the stones almost every day as it's often icy.
After each outing, (so in between tunes), I use a 200 and sometimes a 400 diamond stone to help maintain the edges. Like you said there is only so many tunes in a ski and I find the diamond stones don't take much time to do the edges and don't take off as much as a file would. When the edges become to bad then time for a tune by the ski shop.
Awesome, I was always wondering about that and was not sure. So good to hear, that you have the same thoughts about balancing durability and performance.
Absolutely!
Coming from NZ, hunting out poor man's powder is almost a daily occurrence. Good fun for short turns on the trail edges though.
Hopefully we see our Aussie mates this season......
Poor mans powder all day! gotta love it!
Very good explanations 👍
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Thanks Reilly! Good stuff for sure. I asked friends recently when their Rossignol 88 Temptations had last been tuned and they said they had never tuned them. These skis must be at least 10 years old. Out of pity I took one of the pairs home and tuned them to 1/88. My plan is to have them switch back and forth next time we ski, from the tuned to the untuned ski, and back again. Then I’ll tune the second pair. They are just entering the gripping stage of carving and I expect the difference will be shocking. Its so easy to gradually keep settling for less and less. Especially with the great snow at our mountain.
That will be great for them!
I diamond stone the edges every other day, it makes a world of difference. I just got in another pair of new Atomic Redster SL to mix with my year old pair. Great advice
Update: Using the advice of a friend who is a ski carver. He suggested tuning daily and I have done that this season, my turns have improved to the point I can get my hand in the snow on every turn with hard snow. Love the videos you put out.
Do you hand tune your skis? If so a tutorial would be amazing
In Megeve I tune 2 times a week
Another great video about equimpment. Thank you Reilly! I have had my skis tuned like yours - 1 base/87 side. I ski in the US East, i.e., hard ice or slush, no real powder. After watching your video, I realize that I should do more frequent edge tuning than I was doing. It makes sense. Now, how about waxing? I hot-wax every 5 to 7 days of skiing, but what do you do? Do you wax everyday? I wonder if you could talk about that. Do you use rub-ons or spray? What would you suggest that people do when they go skiing for an extended period of time, say one week?
For trips, I bring a brush, a small amount of Red (mid of the range) wax, an elastic for the bindings, then brush the bases out, rub on a tiny bit of wax, and then brush it through. I will also bring a side edge tool that holds a stone, and then just go over the side edges a few times to take off any burrs. My travel kit also includes some p-tex, lighter, & metal scraper if I need a quick repair. If it's going to be cold & hard, I bring a file for the side edge tool, and I do a few passes under the binding.
At this point, I’m tuning so much I might as well save up for a used Winterthur ….
Japan,once a season ! 💥😂😂😂😂
in hokkaido that is all that is needed! gotta love it there 🥰
@@ReillyMcGlashan But buckets of wax ! 😍😍😍😍
#ReillyMcGlashan how many tunes can a ski take?
I have to say that I cannot afford to buy new skis more than say every 3 seasons and no doubt many others feel the same. So I am as guilty as the person you describe at the start of your video although I do remove the burrs with a diamond file as I find that really helps.
I expect that you get your skis for free which is fair enough considering how much advertising you do for your ski manufacturer.
By "tuning," Reilly, do you mean files, or just stones? You can do a lot with stones without much reducing the life of the skis. I like sharp edges, but I also like my skis - I file once or twice a season.
where do you ski?
Oh, New England - hard snow. I maintain an LTR with my skis, as I said, so I don’t file much. Diamond stones are a different thing, though.
Arent we supposed to tune the skis once and then just maintain and sharpen the edges? I mean, you set the angles and then keep them sharp, right?
For someone who never ski on icey terrain, is it ok to tune once a season?
for example if you are in Hokkaido Japan where I ski often it really is not necessary. That is the only place I have ever skied where once a year is OK. The next best place was colorado but that was at least once every two weeks. Where are you skiing?
@@ReillyMcGlashan I live in Switzerland in Villars-sur-ollon. Normally I don't like to ski when it's very icy, because my level is very intermediate. But sometimes it's still unavoidable to pass some Icy terrain. After watching this video, I know I should tune my skis more often, now I tune only once a year, Thank you so much again for this video.🙂
@@maoanz yes in switzeland the snow gets hard. I would say tuning often will make the ice more enjoyable for you too.
I check my edge every day, hot wax for every day
excellent 💪