RYZEN 9000 SPECS LEAK | Faster Clocks, IPC & More For Zen 5
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- AMD's Zen 5 line of processors will be announced at the companies computex event, and as you would expect there's no shortage of leaks. Specs of the Ryzen 9000 granite ridge line up have emerged, along with a few additional details concerning the upcoming 800-series board chipset specifications.
Amazingly, AMD also seems keen to release several new Zen 3 based processors for AM4 owners, with yet further increases in clock frequencies.
Granite Ridge and other AM5 processors are expected to offer significant performance improvements over zen 4, mostly by improvements to IPC (instructions per clock).
And as for AMD's RDNA 4 graphics? Well, so far there's been nothing to very little regarding anything being shown at computex. Indeed, a plethora of RX 7000 series based RDNA 3 gpus are being released - for example in china and AI of late, so perhaps my sources who told me RDNA 4 is late this year or early next were onto something.
As always with this stuff we can only await official announcements but it will be very interesting to see not just how AMD's Ryzen 9000 series compares against zen 4, but also how it compares against Intel's upcoming Alder Lake processors, which are likely to be announced in September.
Further to this, Zen 5's frankly dizzying number of leaks for both IPC and performance will be intriguing to test. Rumors are that AVX512 performance is doubled and integer performance of zen 5 is massively improved, but the chips don't always hit this. Whether any of this or none of this is true will be very curious.
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AM4 has become AMD's budget platform. And I think this was a calculated move from AMD.
calculated or need a way to offload their older server chiplets that dont meet their power draw requirements
@@WayStedYou Yeah if those dont have 3d cache you could be right. But the way they took the option of using ddr4 for AM5 sounds like both could be true. Something similar to 4D chess moves here.
@@WayStedYou That's not the way it went at ALL. Zen 3 is STILL in production dude. AMD, Nvidia, Intel don't just STOP making products when a new one comes out unless the products have been poor sellers but considering Zen 3 has been WILDLY successful for AMD there was no WAY they were going to stop making it.
AMD SAID that Zen 3 will be their budget line after they put out Zen 4 or actually WHEN they put out Zen 4.
New here? When AMD launched Zen 4 they SAID that Zen 3 will be their budget option. So Duh???? Yeah they calculated that move before they ever launched Zen 4, like probably a year before they launched Zen 4 when they realized how expensive Zen 4 was going to be.
Assume you're TSMC and AMD and Zen 3 has been very successful AND TSMC is having their customers move on from TSMC N7 to N5, 4 and 3. If I'm AMD I want to keep making a product that's probably been their best seller ever but it needs to cost less to manufacture, and if I'm TSMC with little orders for N7 I want AMD to keep using N7. I KNOW, let's give AMD a REALLY good deal to keep manufacturing on N7.
See how that works? Both parties are benefiting from that arrangement and it's why you see cheap B550 MBs on revision SEVEN. Many RUclipsr idiots (Steve from GN, Steve from Hardware Unboxed) have said Zen 3 was only worth it if you already had an AM4 MB which I found laughable since you could buy a B550 MB for $100 - $120 USD, a 5600 for around $120 or a 5500 for under $100 USD, and get 32GB DRAM for $70 USD. In other words whatever you need for a Zen 3 build minus everything else you need for ANY build (case, PSU, etc......) for less than the cost of most CPUs being sold unless you wanted to do the same thing with Intel, buy older parts and get a good discount but none of their MBs were as cheap as B550 or they were junk.
For almost 1.5 - 2 years Zen 3 had 6 - 8 products on Amazon's top 10 best selling CPUs. That's no longer the case, I think those numbers started slipping about half a year ago, now it's more like 4 - 6 Zen 3 products that are typically in that list.
So yes, Zen 3 has been AMD's budget line since Zen 4 launched, thanks to TSMC N7 being discounted for AMD to keep manufacturing on it.
@@johndoh5182 Dude, for about 60$ more you can get a 7500F they sell really cheap imported from china and one of the good cheap AM5 boards and DDR5 memory instead. And not be locked in a dead plattform.
It is not that much more than anyone should still be buying AM4 today.
40% ipc my ass. Delete your entire existence just like what greymon did😅
Dont hurt him, he was saying at Least 30%. And that was from his best sources...if i have best source telling me numbers which are twice the reality i would....ok i dont want to be toxic, i am unsubscribing, peace
More like 19%.
Thanks for a quick not so rambly video. I WAY prefer these short news update videos.
Right
There's so much life left in the AM4 platform
Same. They could triple cpu and im still good cause the 3600 or better can play it all
Literally none, I'm buying a 9800X3D. Why would I go buy a 5800X3D?!
@@nerdynumen because they probably have AM4
I would say they did enough to keep AM4 as long as possible alive ? 5700 x3d for example
@@ProtectusCZ I said I, and I have a 13900k
Where's the so much lift left in the Am4 platform coming from, and why would I downgrade? 😭🤣
9800X3D or bust
Sooooo where is that >30% ipc increase that I am hearing from this channel ??? You should delete your sources 😅 I mean immediately !!!!
2:17 5900XT *16 cores* ? Is that a typo? The x900 models have always been 12 cores. Are they increasing the core count for this XT variant?
Good catch! Also weird that it has lower clocks than the 5950X. Perhaps that's why it's being named as a 5900XT? Aside from clocks, looks identical to the 5950X. Because it's 100MHz slower than the 5950X, they couldn't call it a 5950XT - the 'XT' shouldn't be slower than 'X'.
Assuming no typo, it's a lower binned 5950X, but they are naming/marketing it as an upgraded 5900X.
AMD said before 7000 release they was keeping am4 for more budget focussed gsming.
Here's hoping this rumor doesn't get nerfed.
Very happy to see AM4 is still being supported in 2024! It's good to have these options, many people think they NEED to spend
more on DDR5 and AM5 for a gaming experience that meets their goals, most of the time the games they would like to run and
the resolution, frame rate and graphics settings they are after are well within the capabilities of DDR4 3600MHz and a strong AM4
CPU like the Ryzen 5800X3D or 5700X3D. Also, plenty of 12 and 16 core options for those who are after a Workstation for editing.
Understandably, it would be great to use AM5 hardware and features to be Future Ready, but if the budget is much lower than what's
required, AM4 is a great choice; as long as the PC can get the job done, you'll never be disappointed! FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) gets
many people to spend more unnecessarily, for example, when these new Ryzen CPUs are released will that suddenly mean that the
Ryzen 7800X3D is rubbish all of a sudden? No of course not, it was a great CPU before the new models came along, and it will still be a
great CPU for years to come (*For the right person and application use cases*).
5:58 is Stony Sony's pro weed brother 😆
Bro, bro! I love your content!
Absolute no-nonsense content! Love it for years!
NEVER change bro!
Yeah never learn how to say "three" or when to use the word "basically" 😂😂😂
@@methanoid 😆 I am not bothered by it. It's just other's main content is bloated with so much.
Wondering which use cases will make upgrading from 7xxx to 9xxx worth while. Will 670 motherboards run 9xxx just fine?
I think it should yeah
I'm gonna upgrade from a 7600x to a 9800x3d along with a 5080. Probably worth waiting for the next gen if you're already on the 7800x3d assuming we get 1 more gen on that platform. B650 boards should have no problem either if you have a decent board. 9000 series has lower power consumption so most boards should be fine.
We need Zen 6 hype train video, leaving the station soon.
I'm still on AM4 right now, although I did upgrade to a 5800X3D. I can see some people wanting to upgrade to a 5800XT kind of product. Thumbs up.
Who came up with the idea that giving a CPU a name that crosses over into what they call their GPUs was somehow meant to be a good idea?
I wish we had actual physical cores instead of SMT ..
Keep your hand still.
will zen 6 work on am5 or there is no leak about it yet?
Scruffypaul makes me wonder what full Beardpaul would look like.
Yeah RDNA4 noise is mysteriously absent. Is it perhaps underperforming even compared to lowered expectations to the point where they’re just disinterested? Outright canceling it? I had a number of little critiques as to some of the choices leaks up to now have suggested AMD is making in the context of how they’ll compete, but as far as what *I* might want to actually buy, N48 was looking just fine.
I currently have a 5900x but will prob upgrade to a 9900x or higher so the possibility is there if needed to brute force obs slow without cpu performance taking too big of a hit.
Hoping mobo prices come down by alot around q1 2025 too
Could the best 5000XT CPU be the Ryzen 3 5500XT, a 2.8Ghz/4.0Ghz version of the Ryzen 5 5600x3D for $129.99? Could the gaming performance of a standard 5600x be enticing for it?
Also, the 5300XT, 4.0/4.6Ghz Quad-Core for $79.99 would be really nice.
Am4 is a good alternative to save energy
All the cache specs were wrong....
will the ryzen 9000 run on 600 boards? or do i have to get an 800 series?
It should run on x6xx boards.
9700x 65w ???
Efficiency is a think. People can always OC it, they'll be unlocked.
Why would RNDA4 release next year along with RNDA5?
That's what I want to know. RDNA 4 should be in late 2024.
I just hope I can have 4 ram dimms again without lowering the speed.
Lisa Su is baring all in a few days? I think if she had done that 25-30 years ago it would have been much more exiting
She actually looks really good for an old woman.
@@Kitten_Stomper Nah, dude she is built like a fridge, all rectangular and wide with zero shape.
Why would people upgrade? Well, it depends on how much of a CPU bottleneck they're getting. You really want both CPU and GPU to not choke each other, or there's no benefit in a new GPU, and the GPU is the big cost.
The reason I upgraded last time was that there was probably around a 10% CPU choke point on my card, that was all I'd gain going to a 4070ti anyway, and that the cpu ram motherboard upgrade was still cheaper than the GPU upgrade.
Reality is 12th gen Intel (well anything 12600 and up) and Zen 3 (particularly the X3D) are not a major bottleneck. When I was on Zen +, or 11th gen, they were a bit of a bottleneck to my 2070 Super then my 3080. Even 10th/11th gen and Ryzen 3000 are a huge jump from previous systems and many people are running much older than that just fine.
Now, there's no point upgrading until I buy a much faster GPU, and that's not worth it without a MUCH faster monitor than 144hz or moving to 4k, or path tracing looking much much better without a $2500 upgrade cost.
So yeah, it's cool to read the tech news, but I won't be upgrading unless the new Radeon RDNA 4 or Battlemage stuff offers insane bang for buck that lets me run much higher settings than I can now (which are mostly maxed at 1440 on most games), and if they do then my resale on the 3080 will be poor. Nvidia is gonna be crazy expensive, so that's out.
Hmmm, maybe 9800XT will be cheap enough but there's still enough team green fanbois or CUDA dependent wannabe AI developers?
I see me waiting until right to the end of AM5 for a best X3D upgrade, and RDNA5 when they're cheap, but given how AMD has currently set 5000X3D prices that may not be worth it either.
The cost of staying on the current "bleeding" edge has always been expensive, but since Covid it seems to be triple what it was previously.
Time for a upgrade :)
AM4... AM4... AM4... it's like a zombie that just won't die. Yes, still relevant. But new chips price-to-performance ratio is rapidly tanking when compared to AM5 offerings.
Yet you are stikl on old ram.
Dear Techtubers: learn to pronounce Aorus, because you're all saying it wrong.
It's two syllables and pronounced OR-US. Not sure where you're getting that second "R" from either.
3:57 9600 non-X 🧐
i can't hear that stuff anymore, boring AF**
6 GHz 6-core w/X3D
Have mostly been not following PC news for a while... only to learn that AM5 is getting some new CPU's? That's hilarious!
But also a good (if not great) idea... If they come out for a relatively reasonably priced upgrade to the 5950x, I'd probably buy it.
My desktop is AM5 with 7950x, but I still have the old system around and wouldn't mind giving it a bit of an upgrade.
Hackerz internet colors like it's 90's all over again, what is that crap slide? Reminds me of that dead law guy, but even worse.
It is to try to remove the hidden info in the picture, that is designed to be able to lead back to the leaker.
@@cajampa do you seriously believe that? Put those numbers in excel, nobody cares about ridiculous "authentic" trash images. It's to create immersion for kids.
people don't even know how much legs AM4 has, if they wanted to AMD could do a 16core Zen3+/RDNA 3.5 DDR4 APU on N3P with a shitload of cache for the 10th anniversary of AM4
That's impossible, the logistics on the motherboard don't allow it. It would require a new board to run such logic for the processor
I'm only interested in Zen 6.
Zen 6 is going to be weaker. They are going to go back to the 28 nm node.
Zen 6 X3D will be hot
What about Zen 7?
Wait till your wife hears about this.
@@MLeoM 😂 Lisa outfit for bed time and everything is fine
Fix memory controller and cooling problems first.
5800 XT3D clocked to 4.8...!!! Now that would be a nice chip. Or make it 5nm and clock it to 5.0... I have am4 I would buy that with ddr4 4000 cl15 ram is a great system
seems like 9800X3D is missing again
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No 9800x hmmmm 🤔
they are doing a 5000 series again. The 5800X was the dud chip, the 5700X was so close performance wise. But here I think it's because they're planning only the 9800X3D in that window.
Having the 9800X3D for the 8 core gaming halo, and the 9900X and 9950X as productivity beasts above, and the 8 core 9700X below it means the 9800X would be the most redundant chip in the lineup.
AMD is only supporting AM4 because they bought too much silicone at the end of the COVID era. Nvidia did the same thing with the 3000 series -- the only difference is Nvidia's sales numbers compared to AMD's. They're still normalizing from the silicon shortage a few years back, as this is frankly a horrendous business strategy to develop and maintain more products than necessary.
Silicone lol
@@gandhihype Haha. Thanks for the correction! AMD is pro-Baywatch.
PS6 cpu performance will be equivalent to 7800X3D, no doubts.
cpu in PS6 in probably going to be Zen 6 or Zen 7 based so it will be much faster then 7800X3D
@@evilsatorii Zen6 for sure, but i wouldn't expect faster because clocks are more likely lower, somewhere around 20%.
@@ek2who usually architecture makes so much bigger difference than clock speeds, you can look at game benchmarks comparisons for example Ryzen 3800XT ( 3.9 GHz base, 105W) vs Ryzen 7700 ( non X, 3.8 GHz base, 65W) that’s 2 generations difference and see that Ryzen 7700 performs so much better despite having slightly lower base clock speed, there is usually like 40% difference or even higher difference in favour of Ryzen 7700
@@evilsatorii incorrect comparison. Different ram standard, same clocks. Zen6 won't bring huge uplift in performance. Significant? Yes. But 3DV cache Zen4 cpus are already very fast.
@@ek2who well...in PS6 there is probably going to be way faster memory system utilizing GDDR7 ( 32 GHz @ 256 bit bus = 1 TB/s bandwidth and that just base speed of GDDR7 for now so it could be even higher by then) so it is also not so easy to compare with 7800X3D that is using DDR5 clocked at 6 Ghz
We need unified memory architecture with GPU, npu and cpu sharing ram
lol
and with this you completely ditch ability to upgrade and it'll end up like Apple
Sounds like an APU
Sounds like an Amiga or Atari ST architecture 🤔
I would not hold my breath on this one, maybe in like 7-9 years we will get unified memory on some form of pre-built NUC type systems maybe some form of ARM based architecture instead of x86 as well.
Rubbish. Say goodbye to seperate GPU upgrades? Retarded.
Zen5 will go down as the most overhyped cpu ever.
That was Meteor Lake.
@@nipa5961eh I really think we should wait and give Arrow Lake a chance