So the SC/ST people who are not coming under the creamy layer will be treated as Bramhin / Rajput / Vaishnav etc. and will allow for inter-caste marriage. 🤔. BTW how many SC/ST judges out of 7# are there in benches for verdicts. .
@abishekkumarsuman422 woah woah woah , its not about reservation it is about representation of "actually" backward sc , st class which have been sidelined due to major casts like yadav , meenas taking over the major seats . with heavy emphasis on actual. it will help those sc -st subcastes which could not avail the favour of reservation . it is true that creamy layer will face less discrimination than poor people, thats why everyone in sc st needs to be uplifted economically first
This is landmark decision by the Supreme Court it will help real Deprived lower poor SC population as entire 15-20%. reservation of SC is benefited only for the upper rich dominant SC population. Hoping for the sub Categorisation of SC population into A,B, C category across state with the consultation of different SC groups in all states
Go to villages you will see different groups of SC population, in Telangana Lower SC groups (madiga) are fighting for their rights for last 30 years. Today they got the justice, now it is time for implementation of Supreme Court order,
@@Kannadiga321-r4n reservation se job milti h inferiority complex se ajadi nahi isiliye jese paisa ata h unke pas wese hi sabse pahle usiko lat marte hen jo ki unka bhai h , unhe d3khkar sach m daya ati h mujhe aj bht khus hun sabmese 1, 1 niklenge to koi kisiko nicha nahi dekh payega
When it comes to SC it may be true that multiple casts are discriminating among themselves, however, when it comes to tribes does that stand true. Looking at Schedule tribe and schedule cast from the same lense will be correct.
True ...there is no need to give benefit of reservation to same caste again and again there should be categorisation and creamy layer introduction in sc/st as in obc.
@@Littlefinger7-fk3ng you think Dalits arrange their daughters marriage in any caste ...wake up brother ..there are subcaste in Dalits also..and I have seen Dalits also don't maary their daughters in other dalit caste in arrange marriage setup ....but in love marriages it is different case ....and bty why would I or anyone find bride for you....it's your personal choice ...there is not a bride market anymore brother. You have to find your life partner all by yourself....don't be so shallow in such precious life decisions
@@prabhasingh7961 first point at yourself for the trauma you guys are causing..making us to drink pee, socially ostracizing us in jobs, education, howsoever one is economically well off, the social tag of dalit still exist to this day...educational institutions, jobs, pmo office. Madam, first collect the data and speak...don't defend your point coz you know only when you are in our shoes.
Why caste system ?? Why just cant be religion only... why caste ?? Remove caste system from indian constitution & label them under religion which they follow...
Because the inequality is from caste, Hinduism is just a word coined to group indian subcontinent multiple belief systems, word hindu given by British.
@@axyz002 .. .... ..... why gandhi accepted it ? Why Ambekar accepted it ?? I know the reasons..... india will never rise cos of it own people... it's a curse given to india by Good people who were given bullets, knife and other things to make a india which is now...
@@shauryagupta4981 its british who defined Hindu as religion in the law book, get your education. Persians named Indus as region the place beyond the river. 150 years ago no one in the villages know their religion as hindu, rather called themselves as Shaivism, Vaishnavisim, or their own kula deivam (god), and etc
@@jaspreet6124people do marry outside their castes if you look around with open eyes. Reservation may give an upper hand in education/ job but socially it makes people more caste conscious and making a huge rift between reserved and unreserved.
Judge ka beta jugde nhi banega ye bhi kr jate CJI saab mujhe pura bharosa hai ki knowledge ke mamle mai legal system mai bahut hai jo unse better kr skte hai
Great decision for truly needy SC ST OBC EWS Must be implemented in all Creamy & non creamy division more important than giving all to creamy SC ST OBC EWS only All SC ST OBC EWS must get benefits of reservation Uplift weak first
Probably not, but people who are not in creamy layer and need the opportunity to get ahead in life will have a chance to get it, compared to people who are already well off after using the reservation
@@neojake9389 if they are discriminated against, how are they well off? If a generation will get jobs and they will become creamy layer, but their children will not get jobs because of discrimination, then they will become poor and lead miserable life and then their children will get reservation, and so on. where will this lead into? It's like creating a cycle of poor and rich generations within sc st. Reservation was never economics it was a social policy, designed to protect people from discrimination. Constraining it by an economic measure like creamy layer defeats the purpose of reservation.
@@abhishekkumarsuman422 reservation was always economics, no one can ever not be discriminated against, it's happened throughout history and across different civilizations, the best we can do is help people to raise their wealth and then merit takes over, that's the best anyone can do, I don't care what someone thinks of me if I'm earning good enough, once all castes are equally well off, discrimination will go out
@@abhishekkumarsuman422 once you have certain economic heft you can have the best education and career prospects. 2. What do you mean no job beside if being discriminated against. You think a child of an civil servant, judge or politician will be discriminated against without any consequences?
Without good education... Any classification is meaningless... tribal communities are genetically different and are not homogenous as SC, so will state carry genetic identification programme to observe this decision or sub classification ?
If you don't know the meaning of genetics, you shouldn't use it to argue against something. Genetically all humans are same, genetically humans are 99% similar to the next great apes Chimpanzee. So what you means Tribes are genetically different? You decided that ? You mean gene for skin color and eyes are not same? Guess what, it's not same between you and your grandfather. So, don't use words which you have no clue about.
Finally when few SC, ST will start getting general treatment in education and employment maybe then they will themselves demand reduction in reservation. Welcome to the world where u r debarred from 60% seats flat. 😂 Hope states start implementing these judgments.
@Sanam_nisathen go check list of intercaste marriages that's being going on since many years 😊. I have seen alot in society and even in my own family.
@@shubhangbahadur7112 case was about SC sub categorisation, can they make a policy for STs on the basis of judgement made for SCs? Any amendment made in constitution can only happen through parliament. So i am guessing laws and acts concerning SC and ST are not separate and apply on both them.
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#brahmin of India wants to unite 3% of all different sub-classes of differentially privileged Brhamins but wants to disintegrate 35% #untouchables #outcastes SC/STs of India #SaveReservation and #AbolishCollegium in Indian judiciary
Very unfortunate judgement… honourable Supreme Court in addition to evenly distribute financial status among category,,, should also pass some judgements to help curb to some extent caste system if it really want to be called supreme… such as abolishing surnames… give priestships to Dalits only and so on..
I am a Schedule Caste person and economically well off. I fully support this decision and I am not alone in this support, there are several other SCs that keep the same view that poor SCs should be given preference over rich SCs. Government should proceed with this!!
Today is the black day in the history of Indian constitution because education and the job plays an important role in every human being life. But with the judgement of today's reservations were playing games with the BC and other cast people I think finally the India is a place for SC and STs we BC and other cast people won't belong to India I think
I request countries like America, Britain and other countries to provide special visas to their country for Indian general category citizens as immense injustice have been done to them by the instrument of caste based reservation in India denying them jobs inspite of getting goid score and the evil of inequality they have been subjected to based on their belonging to general caste.. Plz help.... Please provide asylum.. Plz
When people from upper caste category discriminate the people from SC/ST category, then they never count sub-caste of the people belong to the SC/ST category. WHEN the upper caste discriminates the SC/ST, then the character of all sub-castes under SC/ST become homogeneous! The Upper caste treat SC/ST as a same group of people and their hatred is equal for all sub-castes under SC/ST! But the judges of general category in supreme court selected by fraudulent collegium system say SC/ST people are heterogeneous! How???? This verdict must be challenged in no time! This is a direct onslaught upon the spirit of constitution!!! The Judges of general category in Supreme court are wolves in sheep's cloth. They never want reservation to exist and therefore they are sowing the seeds of division among different sub-castes among SC/ST only to weaken reservation sysyem as a whole. Feku ji told during election campaign that he wont allow anybody to touch current reservation sysyem but now feku ji is silent!
Has any one from the backward community given up reservation after getting benefit from it? No. They just want to misuse the system, because of which the poorer from their community do not get the benefit they deserve. Unfortunately, this is the real oppression and no one ever questioned and when someone does, they come down with all sorts of narratives. In any case, the benefit still is still within the community, so why crib?
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So the SC/ST people who are not coming under the creamy layer will be treated as Bramhin / Rajput / Vaishnav etc. and will allow for inter-caste marriage. 🤔. BTW how many SC/ST judges out of 7# are there in benches for verdicts. .
@abishekkumarsuman422
woah woah woah , its not about reservation it is about representation of "actually" backward sc , st class which have been sidelined due to major casts like yadav , meenas taking over the major seats . with heavy emphasis on actual.
it will help those sc -st subcastes which could not avail the favour of reservation .
it is true that creamy layer will face less discrimination than poor people, thats why everyone in sc st needs to be uplifted economically first
This is landmark decision by the Supreme Court it will help real Deprived lower poor SC population as entire 15-20%. reservation of SC is benefited only for the upper rich dominant SC population. Hoping for the sub Categorisation of SC population into A,B, C category across state with the consultation of different SC groups in all states
Hahaha you are new to Indian politics😂
Go to villages you will see different groups of SC population, in Telangana Lower SC groups (madiga) are fighting for their rights for last 30 years. Today they got the justice, now it is time for implementation of Supreme Court order,
@@Kannadiga321-r4ntrue their are discrimination among sc n sts thems3lvez based on caste 😢
@@Power0P7949 yes it is same in OBC and ST also but entire blame goes towards general castes.
@@Kannadiga321-r4n reservation se job milti h inferiority complex se ajadi nahi isiliye jese paisa ata h unke pas wese hi sabse pahle usiko lat marte hen jo ki unka bhai h , unhe d3khkar sach m daya ati h mujhe aj bht khus hun sabmese 1, 1 niklenge to koi kisiko nicha nahi dekh payega
When it comes to SC it may be true that multiple casts are discriminating among themselves, however, when it comes to tribes does that stand true. Looking at Schedule tribe and schedule cast from the same lense will be correct.
4:15.......the statement mentions both SC & ST
@@AbhinnTirkey hahaaa look at Meena caste of st ..then talk
True ...there is no need to give benefit of reservation to same caste again and again there should be categorisation and creamy layer introduction in sc/st as in obc.
No worries, am a dalit, can you find a bride in your caste? I hope you don't honor kill us :)
@@Littlefinger7-fk3ng you think Dalits arrange their daughters marriage in any caste ...wake up brother ..there are subcaste in Dalits also..and I have seen Dalits also don't maary their daughters in other dalit caste in arrange marriage setup ....but in love marriages it is different case ....and bty why would I or anyone find bride for you....it's your personal choice ...there is not a bride market anymore brother. You have to find your life partner all by yourself....don't be so shallow in such precious life decisions
@@Littlefinger7-fk3ngwhy you not ask Yadav?
@@prabhasingh7961 first point at yourself for the trauma you guys are causing..making us to drink pee, socially ostracizing us in jobs, education, howsoever one is economically well off, the social tag of dalit still exist to this day...educational institutions, jobs, pmo office. Madam, first collect the data and speak...don't defend your point coz you know only when you are in our shoes.
@@dev7155g why you not marry Yadav?
Why caste system ?? Why just cant be religion only... why caste ?? Remove caste system from indian constitution & label them under religion which they follow...
Haa madarchodo..Mulla ko reservation de tera kehne ka matlab?
Because the inequality is from caste, Hinduism is just a word coined to group indian subcontinent multiple belief systems, word hindu given by British.
@@axyz002 .. .... ..... why gandhi accepted it ? Why Ambekar accepted it ?? I know the reasons..... india will never rise cos of it own people... it's a curse given to india by Good people who were given bullets, knife and other things to make a india which is now...
@@axyz002 😂😂😂😂 the word hindu comes from the persian ( meant land of the indus river) it was never given by britishers
@@shauryagupta4981 its british who defined Hindu as religion in the law book, get your education. Persians named Indus as region the place beyond the river.
150 years ago no one in the villages know their religion as hindu, rather called themselves as Shaivism, Vaishnavisim, or their own kula deivam (god), and etc
Very good illustration, thank you
United we stand, divided we fall. Reservations are divisive and bad for the country.
You don't remember these quotes while marrying and doing casteism ...double standard people
Do you know him personally. @@jaspreet6124
Hoping for the day when an SC and ST person can be a pandit in shree mandir jagannath and other India's holiest temple like kedarnath@@jaspreet6124
@@jaspreet6124people do marry outside their castes if you look around with open eyes. Reservation may give an upper hand in education/ job but socially it makes people more caste conscious and making a huge rift between reserved and unreserved.
@@cherryprasher another propoganda of upper caste ..be don't believe you now
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Judge ka beta jugde nhi banega ye bhi kr jate CJI saab mujhe pura bharosa hai ki knowledge ke mamle mai legal system mai bahut hai jo unse better kr skte hai
Great decision for truly needy SC ST OBC EWS
Must be implemented in all
Creamy & non creamy division more important than giving all to creamy SC ST OBC EWS only
All SC ST OBC EWS must get benefits of reservation
Uplift weak first
I request supreme court to make provision for people who want to move out or get out of the caste in which they are
So the people who are in creamy layer will not be discriminated against?
Probably not, but people who are not in creamy layer and need the opportunity to get ahead in life will have a chance to get it, compared to people who are already well off after using the reservation
@@neojake9389 if they are discriminated against, how are they well off? If a generation will get jobs and they will become creamy layer, but their children will not get jobs because of discrimination, then they will become poor and lead miserable life and then their children will get reservation, and so on. where will this lead into? It's like creating a cycle of poor and rich generations within sc st.
Reservation was never economics it was a social policy, designed to protect people from discrimination. Constraining it by an economic measure like creamy layer defeats the purpose of reservation.
@@abhishekkumarsuman422 reservation was always economics, no one can ever not be discriminated against, it's happened throughout history and across different civilizations, the best we can do is help people to raise their wealth and then merit takes over, that's the best anyone can do, I don't care what someone thinks of me if I'm earning good enough, once all castes are equally well off, discrimination will go out
@@neojake9389 say that to pandits and thakurs.
@@abhishekkumarsuman422 once you have certain economic heft you can have the best education and career prospects.
2. What do you mean no job beside if being discriminated against. You think a child of an civil servant, judge or politician will be discriminated against without any consequences?
So caste remains and reservation leaves.
How??
If u want to leave caste leave reservation
@@priyanshusingh769 It's as stupid as saying that If I abandoned Indian rupee, then Indian rupee itself would loose it's value.
@@sooryanarayanan4273 I know right🤦
Without good education... Any classification is meaningless... tribal communities are genetically different and are not homogenous as SC, so will state carry genetic identification programme to observe this decision or sub classification ?
If you don't know the meaning of genetics, you shouldn't use it to argue against something. Genetically all humans are same, genetically humans are 99% similar to the next great apes Chimpanzee. So what you means Tribes are genetically different? You decided that ? You mean gene for skin color and eyes are not same? Guess what, it's not same between you and your grandfather.
So, don't use words which you have no clue about.
@@North_Lights it is not that... Other word that is best use... is a little uncomfortable... So term which you are describing...
Finally when few SC, ST will start getting general treatment in education and employment maybe then they will themselves demand reduction in reservation.
Welcome to the world where u r debarred from 60% seats flat. 😂 Hope states start implementing these judgments.
@Sanam_nisado not care abt that one bit
Haha you wish..welcome to reality of Indian politics..just wait and your happiness will go
@Sanam_nisa inter caste marriages are at an all time high
And this will only increase with time
@Sanam_nisathen go check list of intercaste marriages that's being going on since many years 😊. I have seen alot in society and even in my own family.
@Sanam_nisa u can certainly see inter caste marriages in any urban areas
But i fail to see why thats relevant
The hearing was about SC sub-categorisation. So is it only for SCs or does it also affect STs?
She clearly says Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes
@@shubhangbahadur7112 case was about SC sub categorisation, can they make a policy for STs on the basis of judgement made for SCs? Any amendment made in constitution can only happen through parliament. So i am guessing laws and acts concerning SC and ST are not separate and apply on both them.
good judgement
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SC ST are not happy. They will fight against this decision.
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All in this country
All thanks to the states....
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Nicely explained. 👍
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There should be a cut the clutter in this topic
gupta is a fool
Yes, there should be a cut the clutter on this topic.
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Simple and clear explaination 👍
Good judgement
Socially heterogenous class. Yes.
#brahmin of India wants to unite 3% of all different sub-classes of differentially privileged Brhamins but wants to disintegrate 35% #untouchables #outcastes SC/STs of India
#SaveReservation and #AbolishCollegium in Indian judiciary
@@armish4197 3% wants to disintegrate 35% ? Are you a clown?
Very unfortunate judgement… honourable Supreme Court in addition to evenly distribute financial status among category,,, should also pass some judgements to help curb to some extent caste system if it really want to be called supreme… such as abolishing surnames… give priestships to Dalits only and so on..
Abolish Caste System… that will pave the way for social equality…..
I am a Schedule Caste person and economically well off. I fully support this decision and I am not alone in this support, there are several other SCs that keep the same view that poor SCs should be given preference over rich SCs. Government should proceed with this!!
😂just a pajeet b&dwala acting as a dalit
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Stop copy pasting
But when will these judgements be implemented
Never😂 tc
just an opinion
Today is the black day in the history of Indian constitution because education and the job plays an important role in every human being life. But with the judgement of today's reservations were playing games with the BC and other cast people I think finally the India is a place for SC and STs we BC and other cast people won't belong to India I think
Remove the caste, racism then every thing will go.
The Print "Uniform" 😂
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HUM GENERAL HAI LEKIN HAMARE BAHUT SC ST SATHI HAI JINPE SARE SUKH SUVIDHA AISHO ARAM HAIN 😢 😢 😢 😢 😢
@@riteshrautela5022 hum sc st hai aur bhut saree general dost hai jo Ameer hoke bhi ews lete hai🤑
@@jaspreet6124 toh complaint kro unki taaki deserving candidates ko ews mil ske 🤷
@@cherryprasher hahaha complaint wo bi Indian loophole system mein..it's sytemic failure na ki illegal
@@jaspreet6124 Give it a try . I have seen many people loosing their jobs over fake certificates 😊
@@cherryprasher okk will have to leave study then to do activism
Justice Bela Trivedi is 200%. Correct
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I request countries like America, Britain and other countries to provide special visas to their country for Indian general category citizens as immense injustice have been done to them by the instrument of caste based reservation in India denying them jobs inspite of getting goid score and the evil of inequality they have been subjected to based on their belonging to general caste.. Plz help.... Please provide asylum.. Plz
Ahh fck off man stone age creature don't deserve to be live in modern society go to your trash vedic era.
Now the million $ Q, will the vote bank mindset gov's will apply it🤔
Correct
Reservation is the cheapest way to make people their andhbhakt
When people from upper caste category discriminate the people from SC/ST category, then they never count sub-caste of the people belong to the SC/ST category. WHEN the upper caste discriminates the SC/ST, then the character of all sub-castes under SC/ST become homogeneous! The Upper caste treat SC/ST as a same group of people and their hatred is equal for all sub-castes under SC/ST!
But the judges of general category in supreme court selected by fraudulent collegium system say SC/ST people are heterogeneous! How???? This verdict must be challenged in no time!
This is a direct onslaught upon the spirit of constitution!!! The Judges of general category in Supreme court are wolves in sheep's cloth. They never want reservation to exist and therefore they are sowing the seeds of division among different sub-castes among SC/ST only to weaken reservation sysyem as a whole.
Feku ji told during election campaign that he wont allow anybody to touch current reservation sysyem but now feku ji is silent!
Has any one from the backward community given up reservation after getting benefit from it? No. They just want to misuse the system, because of which the poorer from their community do not get the benefit they deserve. Unfortunately, this is the real oppression and no one ever questioned and when someone does, they come down with all sorts of narratives. In any case, the benefit still is still within the community, so why crib?
सात जजो मे कोई भी एससी एसटी नहीं है । एस सी का दर्द जानना है तो गांव में जाके देखो