Let me be very clear. Both in a architectural, melodic and harmonic sense, this sonata is a pure masterwork, close to the spirit of the awesome Liszt's one in the same tonality, and should deserve much more than being totally forgotten nowadays.
@@andreassorg7294 No question to touch anytthing.. You don(t touch the Beethoven sonatas, variations, symphonies, quartets, when recognizing that thay had a major impact on Schubert, Schumann, Brahms, Wagner, Liszt, Franck, Saint Saens Mahler, Reger, and even later on Hindemith, Schoenberg, Berg, Bartok, Honegger for instance. The truth is quite opposite; having infleunced so many diverse composers for so long just prove Beethoven's genius. Study in detail the two scores, including paisistic weiting and harmonies, then study the architectural key features. The inluence of Liszt(s sonata over Sinf ding is quite obvious, in poarallel with other ones: Schumann, Chopin, Grieg. We wille never have the opportunity to meet together, otherwise I could show you these keyinfleunces by lloking carefully at the two scores. .
@@gerardbegni2806 Of course all minor piano composers after Liszt, who couldn't find some independance of him (like f. e. Brahms, Debussy, Ravel, Skrjabin, who found), stood under his influence, less or more, but I don't see any obvious influence of Liszt's sonata in this piece, except the pianistic challenges. Please explain it to me. Schumann's influence is too obvious. Sinding stole the main theme from Schumann's 2nd piano sonata. But, in fact, Sinding's sonata is, although I like it a little bit, 3rd range in quality
@@andreassorg7294 I can agree with you on the fact that Sinding writes melodic themes while Liszt (who wrote such themes in other works) perfers here to work with flexible crlls and a ample chordal theme.
This is the result of a music not intricately and carefully composed and thought of (take the Beethoven Appasionata F minor): the result is a sequence of unending, unfiltered, useless chords and themes that are either derivative or pointless.
There is an almost identical downward cadence at 3:26 also found in 'Frühlingsrauschen' actually, and in general the first movement actually sounds similar to it but worked out on a grander scale and with more thematic material and development.
Sneaks up on you. I could listen to this all night
Let me be very clear. Both in a architectural, melodic and harmonic sense, this sonata is a pure masterwork, close to the spirit of the awesome Liszt's one in the same tonality, and should deserve much more than being totally forgotten nowadays.
Please don't touch the greatest piano work of the 19th century. The tonality is the only fact, which they have together
@@andreassorg7294 No question to touch anytthing.. You don(t touch the Beethoven sonatas, variations, symphonies, quartets, when recognizing that thay had a major impact on Schubert, Schumann, Brahms, Wagner, Liszt, Franck, Saint Saens Mahler, Reger, and even later on Hindemith, Schoenberg, Berg, Bartok, Honegger for instance. The truth is quite opposite; having infleunced so many diverse composers for so long just prove Beethoven's genius. Study in detail the two scores, including paisistic weiting and harmonies, then study the architectural key features. The inluence of Liszt(s sonata over Sinf ding is quite obvious, in poarallel with other ones: Schumann, Chopin, Grieg. We wille never have the opportunity to meet together, otherwise I could show you these keyinfleunces by lloking carefully at the two scores. .
@@gerardbegni2806 Of course all minor piano composers after Liszt, who couldn't find some independance of him (like f. e. Brahms, Debussy, Ravel, Skrjabin, who found), stood under his influence, less or more, but I don't see any obvious influence of Liszt's sonata in this piece, except the pianistic challenges. Please explain it to me. Schumann's influence is too obvious. Sinding stole the main theme from Schumann's 2nd piano sonata. But, in fact, Sinding's sonata is, although I like it a little bit, 3rd range in quality
@@andreassorg7294 I can agree with you on the fact that Sinding writes melodic themes while Liszt (who wrote such themes in other works) perfers here to work with flexible crlls and a ample chordal theme.
@@gerardbegni2806 what is crlls??
The descending melody in the first movement is reminding me so much of the first movement of Schumann’s second piano sonata. 9:00
I like this sonata!
Something Incredible, and Incredible feelings
6:45 the best drop in all of piano and 8:31
Очень пианистичное произведение,как у меня в детстве,в СССР,по радио передавали именно такую музыку
Awesome formal unity.
This sends me
Very “early Faure” sound. Pretty cool.
Brilliant!
Fantastic sonata. Reminded my a bit of B-flat sonata by Schubert with the repeated ostinato
It feels like a piano transcription of a dramatic movie score that is just a bit too long.
15:43 this reminds me of Rach 3 : perhaps he was inspired by this sonata
Yes, sounds very similar
No, Rachmaninoff had good taste in music
@@AinSoph73 what's not so tasteful in that piece ?
@@jesemepardens9151 all the “melodies” are just blehhh; come on, Rach 3 even the strings before the piano entrance sound good
@@AinSoph73 ok but that doesn't mean Rachmaninoff had to dislike it ! But who knows? Maybe he didn't even know of that piece
Feels like a 20-min toccata
This is the result of a music not intricately and carefully composed and thought of (take the Beethoven Appasionata F minor): the result is a sequence of unending, unfiltered, useless chords and themes that are either derivative or pointless.
Best thing is that it is NOT "Rustle of Spring".
There is an almost identical downward cadence at 3:26 also found in 'Frühlingsrauschen' actually, and in general the first movement actually sounds similar to it but worked out on a grander scale and with more thematic material and development.
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Beautiful recording! The high E above the treble staff is out of tune though
8:37 probably Sinding gave the permission to Loewenthal to play forte instead of piano by Whatsapp
The performance is excellent but am I the only one who notices that the piano sounds slightly off in the upper registers?
i dont fucking know whos siding but nice piece i guess
I just find the first movement had to much energy. It's as if the ear has no repose. Maybe I need to listen some other time.
Lowenthal plays it very energetic (which I like), but if you prefer the first movement to be more calm, try listening to Mark Ehrenfried playing this
1st movement's main theme is stolen from Schumann's 2nd piano sonata
I don't know, why I like this composer, although he produces nothing else than sequences with empty pathos
It's after chopin raindrop. Prelude
Not like piano sonata