Black Panther Wakanda Forever Original Story Before Chadwick Boseman Passed?

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @darkrift22
    @darkrift22 Год назад +3172

    This is really sad for me to think about. How hard it was for this movie to even be created during a real life tragedy.

    • @mothergaia549
      @mothergaia549 Год назад +32

      They should have waited and change the order of the movie

    • @extrashotofespresso_
      @extrashotofespresso_ Год назад +54

      @@mothergaia549no

    • @masterbrawler1298
      @masterbrawler1298 Год назад +45

      @@YippydaSnoop expected this comment🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

    • @wooshangjr
      @wooshangjr Год назад +1

      this mfer said a real life tragedy like Nelson Mandela died lmao

    • @pkplayz7711
      @pkplayz7711 Год назад +7

      There are alot weak people out there!

  • @Jadxn503
    @Jadxn503 Год назад +1727

    “He was too tired to read it” he put all his energy into the movies before his passing 😔

  • @JoE-kx7dw
    @JoE-kx7dw Год назад +2754

    Would be nice to see an animated version of the original script

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 Год назад +313

      What if maybe🤔

    • @911awakening
      @911awakening Год назад +41

      Great idea

    • @RiloTribez
      @RiloTribez Год назад +268

      That would be a good “What If” Special Presentation

    • @speedracer1945
      @speedracer1945 Год назад +21

      The story writers use animation for the director team for changes in script.

    • @ItsAscariJay
      @ItsAscariJay Год назад +6

      Yes that would be great

  • @isaacharvey451
    @isaacharvey451 Год назад +789

    With everything going on in the real world and the MCU, I'm glad they were able to climb out of all of it and still come up with a fitting tribute to Chadwick. (I have had childhood brain cancer since August 2013, so hearing about his death hit hard.)
    It's a breath of fresh air after everything else in Phase 4.

  • @too2great8
    @too2great8 Год назад +1681

    Ryan Coogler and Joe Robert Cole did an excellent job with the sequel. To contend with Covid and the untimely death of Chadwick weighing heavy on all their hearts, was a monumental feat to deliver this movie to us and I thank them.

    • @kingofhearts1072
      @kingofhearts1072 Год назад +10

      That’s like saying killing off Paul Walker in a car crash in a F&F movie would’ve been a great decision.

    • @too2great8
      @too2great8 Год назад +42

      @@kingofhearts1072 Ummm...no. just. No.

    • @sh0cktim3
      @sh0cktim3 Год назад +25

      @@kingofhearts1072 u ain't making no sense or you can't even understand what the JadeFoxx said. Seems like both.

    • @MrEmreWawa
      @MrEmreWawa Год назад +7

      perfectly put. a herculean effort, and what was turned out was VERY good.

    • @sirchi8731
      @sirchi8731 Год назад

      @@too2great8 🙄🙄but if you read your original comment and you put it in that framework...you basically said it was ok to kill off Chadwick. Its you shills that really piss me off

  • @taylorxtaylor_xo
    @taylorxtaylor_xo Год назад +364

    While I would have loved to see this version with Chadwick in it, they really did an impossible job turning this movie into what we saw in theaters. I’ve seen it twice now and I’m still blow away about how amazing of a job they did!

    • @jwatson181
      @jwatson181 Год назад +8

      It was terrible and made zero sense.

    • @Young_Dab
      @Young_Dab Год назад +16

      @@jwatson181 Troll

  • @911awakening
    @911awakening Год назад +438

    Ryan Coogler has earned my respect as such a creative individual. From the very beginning he had a vision for this film: grief and was eloquently able to never waiver from that vision by highlighting the life and legacy Chadwick left behind. Definitely the best marvel content this year!😊

    • @livefromthe3-066
      @livefromthe3-066 Год назад +3

      His first theatrical film fruitville station shows how thorough and deep this brother is he really went into the trenches of the protest the event etc the bts documentary of the film shows that super great film

    • @livefromthe3-066
      @livefromthe3-066 Год назад

      I really suggest you watch that

    • @911awakening
      @911awakening Год назад

      @@livefromthe3-066 thanks I’ll ill look into it

  • @DamanKingBear
    @DamanKingBear Год назад +440

    The fact this movie was as good as it was is something else

    • @jimdoe3288
      @jimdoe3288 Год назад +16

      Good ?

    • @sh0cktim3
      @sh0cktim3 Год назад +30

      @@jimdoe3288 yes the majority see it that way. Overwhelming majority too.

    • @michaelrobosa146
      @michaelrobosa146 Год назад +9

      @@jimdoe3288 yes, you're just blind

    • @bardockssj708
      @bardockssj708 Год назад +13

      @@sh0cktim3 idk abt that most I’ve seen said it wasn’t that good

    • @yucelonmaz2
      @yucelonmaz2 Год назад

      @@bardockssj708 then they are probably racist

  • @Skysthelimit212
    @Skysthelimit212 Год назад +322

    I'm glad they didn't just gloss over his passing and put out a story for the sake of money and views. This film felt correct

    • @RPINCo
      @RPINCo Год назад +48

      Thank you! All the so called fan boys just want anyone in a suit to go. People have no empathy at all. This was done respectfully and correct. People that play these roles put a lot of effort in them and build families.

    • @antoinefilms_
      @antoinefilms_ Год назад +5

      No they used a real man's death to promote the movie!

    • @tmac731
      @tmac731 Год назад +3

      But that’s what they did. They made money off his death

  • @backstage6672
    @backstage6672 Год назад +54

    this movie was so beautiful it's just so sad that its hard for us to not think about what if chadwick hadn't passed away hope he is resting in peace he worked so hard while he was here❤🕊

  • @kenmrgentleman
    @kenmrgentleman Год назад +376

    Dang wish we saw the original script come to life with chadwick in it 😥😥

  • @alpanago2603
    @alpanago2603 Год назад +348

    I think instead of killing M’Bakku, they would kill Nakia and the loss of his love and mother of his child would be his struggle
    Think about how hard all of that would be with the child plot on top of it all

    • @Heard2
      @Heard2 Год назад +92

      it probably was nakia. opening the door for a storm romance

    • @09bonita09
      @09bonita09 Год назад +45

      Glad that didn’t happen. It would have seemed like Storm was a backup

    • @keldorthebluemack
      @keldorthebluemack Год назад +25

      The way Namor hit M'Bakku he should've been killed regardless especially if they claim Namor has the strength of the Hulk

    • @keldorthebluemack
      @keldorthebluemack Год назад +28

      @@09bonita09 They'll probably have his son hook up with Storm bcuz by the time he's grown the X-Men will definitely be in the MCU

    • @vincyteo
      @vincyteo Год назад +22

      Killing the women to motivates the main character advancement? That's some old shitty plot motivation that Ryan coogler won't do.

  • @TheOrigamiGenius
    @TheOrigamiGenius Год назад +86

    Wakanda Forever was one of the top Marvel movies in phase 4. The fact that they had to change the script is insane

  • @solobusiness4320
    @solobusiness4320 Год назад +9

    Untimely deaths are always so tragic RIP Chadwick Boseman may have been 2 years buts it’s still just as tragic as the days it happened

  • @JamesTechJackin
    @JamesTechJackin Год назад +99

    Ryan and Joe did the very best they could with what they had. The actors def did their thing! I enjoyed it. I would actually love to see the directors cut. The tribute the late Chadwick was very honorable.

  • @v.v365
    @v.v365 Год назад +117

    It’s a miracle this movie exists, let alone that it’s as fantastic as it is

    • @jakeman025
      @jakeman025 Год назад +3

      The theatrical release must’ve been vastly different….cuz that might’ve been the worst marvel movie I’ve seen since thor the dark world…

  • @KnightFoxx1190
    @KnightFoxx1190 Год назад +49

    Highly recommend the podcast! It was sad, heartfelt, and you get a great perspective from Coogler about his thought process and it’s all hosted by Tanehesi Coates which was amazing!

  • @AlexisBlatek
    @AlexisBlatek Год назад +78

    Its sad that chadwick boseman didnt wanted to read the draft because of the plain fact that he might not be in the next film. It would only break his heart 😭😭💔

    • @ExhuastedLama
      @ExhuastedLama Год назад +2

      Did you not listen to the video? They said he was too tired to read it. I’m pretty sure he would have read it if he could.

    • @AlexisBlatek
      @AlexisBlatek Год назад +13

      @@ExhuastedLama Too tired physically, mentally, and emotionally... you gotta understand its more complex than that. Or you didn't know? Well, now you know.

  • @Yolo32923
    @Yolo32923 Год назад +27

    Since we did not get this in the movies, Marvel, please and please make this a What If episode. And make it a few episodes long. Us fans would love this.

  • @TDizzzzle
    @TDizzzzle Год назад +52

    Chadwick would have put on the best MCU performance ever with this script. Rip forever king

  • @ZaNeCuDdEr
    @ZaNeCuDdEr Год назад +40

    I think the killmonger ansestrial plane with chadwick would be somewhat the same convo but adding his kid in it which strangely is a parallel where killmongers father gets killed permanently which set him twards his path while tachalla(a father) was presumed "dead" but gets to come back and do better

  • @stephenhughes7600
    @stephenhughes7600 Год назад +123

    I really liked the second movie, but now I wish we got the one with Chadwick in it.

    • @jpetersgoyanks
      @jpetersgoyanks Год назад +10

      Of course, because that would mean Chadwick didn’t die.

    • @Naioki4
      @Naioki4 Год назад +4

      @@jpetersgoyanks Also just because it would've been better

    • @jpetersgoyanks
      @jpetersgoyanks Год назад +17

      @@Naioki4 A: you can’t compare a human life to a movie. B: you have no idea if it would be better.

    • @andyv5997
      @andyv5997 Год назад +4

      @@jpetersgoyanks Facts also if chadwick was still alive, we wouldn’t have gotten the movie that we had now so we also wouldn’t have known if each other’s iteration of the movie would be better or worse at all

  • @zacharybartolo5111
    @zacharybartolo5111 Год назад +249

    This was something I really wanted to know. The movie we got was great, but I always just had this thought in the back of my mind of what the "original" plan was for the movie. Not saying I thought it would be better than what we got, just curiosity. Nice to know most ideas would remain intact and worked around for Shuri.

  • @qcrew2938
    @qcrew2938 Год назад +61

    So cool how they were able to pivot to a completely different script and still make it amazing!

  • @blckotaku5250
    @blckotaku5250 Год назад +7

    Ngl y'all did amazing finding all this to make a cohesive idea of how the 2020 script looked like

  • @alesfont
    @alesfont Год назад +33

    I feel like we need a ‘What If’ of this.

  • @acaciabarrow5980
    @acaciabarrow5980 Год назад +81

    They remade the movie beautifully 🙏🏾

  • @s.v1404
    @s.v1404 Год назад +18

    hearing all this makes me so sad for Chadwick, he must have felt so alone...

    • @BurritoKingdom
      @BurritoKingdom Год назад +21

      He was with the people he cared about the most in his life. His fiance and his family. He knew he was gonna pass and wanted to keep it private

    • @s.v1404
      @s.v1404 Год назад +2

      @@BurritoKingdom I know but still, he had people he worked with and had a bond with who he did not tell. I can imagine it being lonely despite it being his choice

  • @gatermantv6810
    @gatermantv6810 Год назад +6

    I lost my sister to cancer this all hits home for me

  • @trystinlindsay5674
    @trystinlindsay5674 Год назад +61

    Coogler feels too young to be this brilliant

    • @SmittyTravelz
      @SmittyTravelz Год назад +2

      Whats that supposed to mean?… he’s in his 30s…

    • @jazzypom
      @jazzypom Год назад +6

      @@SmittyTravelz Bur he has the lived wisdom of someone much older.

  • @darthvulture
    @darthvulture Год назад +23

    they did a fantastic job rewriting this and also with all the delays and controversies surroinding it, a good sequel all in all!

  • @RichardmpayiTnway
    @RichardmpayiTnway Год назад +34

    I cant die before i get to see blade and blue marvel on the big screen

    • @sh0cktim3
      @sh0cktim3 Год назад +2

      Blade has been on the Big screen and those movies were great.

    • @RichardmpayiTnway
      @RichardmpayiTnway Год назад

      @@sh0cktim3 im talking about the mcu

    • @artfulgod2645
      @artfulgod2645 Год назад +1

      I feel you on this on so many levels

  • @peterbrooks7120
    @peterbrooks7120 Год назад +68

    It's amazing how this movie was so seamlessly re-written after such a tragic loss when Disney+ Marvel shows make it painfully obvious that changes were made.

  • @marknugent9851
    @marknugent9851 Год назад +8

    Loving this series on insights from the perspective of a screenwriter. Excelsior!

  • @CoolTy23
    @CoolTy23 Год назад +32

    Wish they introduced Storm

  • @Buddy22326
    @Buddy22326 Год назад +11

    I was amazed when I watched this movie 2 days ago. It was incredible how they all managed to produce a film within 2 years. The emotion was incredible.

  • @AlSween
    @AlSween Год назад +16

    Number 3 makes a lot of sense is that one of Chadwick's last moments in the MCU was he and Killmonger confronted each other in the ancestral plane in that one episode of What If?

  • @DrVenture45
    @DrVenture45 Год назад +9

    I think Coogler and Wright were heavily impacted by Chadwick's death, that's not to suggest that the rest of the cast wasn't, but the need for an outlet filtered into both story and performance. Critics can say what they'd like, but in a business built on pretense it's not often that a crew is so genuine and open to such vulnerability.

  • @Tremori_A
    @Tremori_A Год назад +31

    The Mbaku character and actor were done a disservice. he was too good to have a minor role

  • @ScentedWaters
    @ScentedWaters Год назад +50

    Question: why didn't any of the avengers go to T'challa's funeral ceremony? He was at Tony's.

    • @superrooster18
      @superrooster18 Год назад +72

      My guess is that they decided to keep the funeral private and not release the information until after the burial. Also half the avengers are either busy or dead so..

    • @jacobhuggins7572
      @jacobhuggins7572 Год назад +2

      I believe these guys spoke about it on a previous video.

    • @ScentedWaters
      @ScentedWaters Год назад

      @@superrooster18 good point

    • @ScentedWaters
      @ScentedWaters Год назад +1

      @@jacobhuggins7572 thanks, gonna check it out

    • @sumukhvmrsat6347
      @sumukhvmrsat6347 Год назад +4

      Well everyone is pretty f****p in thier own things maybe in something called phase 4

  • @bryanpeacock3898
    @bryanpeacock3898 Год назад +7

    This was some thing I really wanted to know. The movie we got was great but I always just had this thought in the back of my mind what’s the original plan was for the movie. Not saying I thought it would be better than we got, just curiosity. Nice to know most ideas would remain intact and worked around for Sheri.

  • @rubykgarrett
    @rubykgarrett Год назад +28

    just finished watching this movie and i can't stop crying hell yeah 😎

  • @theberndog
    @theberndog Год назад +1

    wow, i would have loved to see that original script so much more than what we got. It wasn't a bad movie but didn't hit me as being better than the first. That original script sounds to me like a worthy sequel. RIP Chadwick

  • @kibo390
    @kibo390 Год назад +10

    They should use it as a script for what if

  • @Bliss-l1t
    @Bliss-l1t Год назад +3

    I wanted to enjoy this movie so much but I lost a family member who wanted to see the movie and it made the loss in the film void.

  • @transformerboy8898
    @transformerboy8898 Год назад +2

    I miss Chadwick Boseman

  • @chapouche
    @chapouche Год назад +6

    Could not have done better it is crazy. I love it. Love it.

  • @ttcameron6390
    @ttcameron6390 Год назад +2

    What makes me so happy is that both of these film makers talk just like regular people, they say "like" and stutter so much, they're just normal people making human movies.

  • @andymingni
    @andymingni Год назад +7

    All things considered it was one of the better movies of phase 4 despite the setbacks.

  • @tyronejbrowm
    @tyronejbrowm Год назад +3

    Ryan Cooglar sounds like Nipsey with that Cali accent !

  • @sureshponnada
    @sureshponnada Год назад +12

    Why none of the avengers attended king t challah’s funeral. He is an avenger too and fought with others in end game..

    • @thekidnasir6562
      @thekidnasir6562 Год назад +8

      Because it was in wakanda… they barely let in outsiders, and their leader just died so they weren’t taking any chances

  • @zaimusic_150
    @zaimusic_150 Год назад +2

    Lil Toussaint looks just like Chadwick too. My God!

  • @HaseoXth
    @HaseoXth Год назад +2

    T chala Jr was so freaking cute. Rip chad

  • @americanpaisareturns9051
    @americanpaisareturns9051 Год назад +5

    That scene caught me by surprise.

  • @NosePrint
    @NosePrint Год назад +3

    Such an excellent deep dive @ericvoss, thanks for your work

  • @lareinedafrique4215
    @lareinedafrique4215 Год назад +2

    Wonderful Review and synopsis thank you for doing it justice 😍

  • @InjusticeJosh
    @InjusticeJosh Год назад +5

    Curious as to what Shuri’s involvement was to the original script.

  • @Souzette86
    @Souzette86 Год назад +2

    That makes so much sense now I saw this. I wish though we could all read Atleast the original or maybe in the future they can release it. Just so we know how it was going to be

  • @WoooodZz2688
    @WoooodZz2688 Год назад +18

    the first script woulda been the movie we wanted but the movie we got was great under the circumstances

  • @blackboysominc1288
    @blackboysominc1288 Год назад +3

    Really well done. Thank you.

  • @Smk42217
    @Smk42217 Год назад +4

    Oh that plot point about men taken from their children would have been brilliant

  • @Lawthugg
    @Lawthugg Год назад +3

    It almost feels like we're living are own episode of what if

  • @henry2168
    @henry2168 Год назад +1

    Just saw the movie after watching your vid, and yeah it was magnificent.
    so thanks for being the push that got me to go see it.

  • @MickFurious931
    @MickFurious931 Год назад +14

    I’ll say it…I’m African American (AA) and feel the old script would’ve identified with AA fathers more…e cause Jt’s something discussed amongst society and something I’ve dealt with personally. However, my biological passed and finding out after 40+ years of my life…and never meeting or knowing him personally is tragic.

  • @H12Cxerti
    @H12Cxerti Год назад

    I remember being sat in the airport when the news came out. Was such a. Shock

  • @ToughLoveSeries
    @ToughLoveSeries Год назад

    Great video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @yoyoland8461
    @yoyoland8461 Год назад +3

    I was crying this whole movie 😢

  • @Kangchevy
    @Kangchevy Год назад +4

    I wish they could’ve explored the rship between him n Storm. Introduced them as kids or something

  • @KawhiW213
    @KawhiW213 Год назад +1

    RIP❤

  • @roberttodd7136
    @roberttodd7136 Год назад +4

    I couldn't imagine missing 5years of my child's life

  • @freebiehughes9615
    @freebiehughes9615 Год назад

    I just saw this on Disney plus, and it was excellent!

  • @Thund3rfist
    @Thund3rfist Год назад +1

    You guys are a lot more positive about your thoughts on this movie. Personally I don't think they pulled it off well at all. The movie just fell flat on almost every level for me. I did enjoy Namor but I've been wanting to see his character for a while. Glad you all like it though.

  • @logicandemma8474
    @logicandemma8474 Год назад +6

    Really liked the movie think it was excuted better than the previous one, but I still feel like if Chadwick was still alive and kicking with the original script. I think it would've been better. But that's really just me making some crazy assumptions.

    • @sh0cktim3
      @sh0cktim3 Год назад +2

      He's such a Strong powerful uplifting character. It would of been just as good or even better.

    • @8tiveeye
      @8tiveeye Год назад +1

      It would’ve been better with Chadwick. I really wasn’t a fan of this movie.

  • @freesimorgh
    @freesimorgh Год назад

    I have never remembered the moment I learned of an actor's passing but I remember clear as day when I read that Chadwick Boseman had passed. His wonderful life was cut too short and to me his passing will always be one of the biggest failures of medicine.

  • @ComicPower
    @ComicPower Год назад

    Chadwick Boseman forever

  • @VidWatcher01
    @VidWatcher01 Год назад

    MBJ looked sooooo beautiful in that scene😍❤️😍❤️😍

  • @BossBible
    @BossBible Год назад

    This is so incredibly sad

  • @MarieHannahWilson
    @MarieHannahWilson Год назад +1

    That would have been an amazing film

  • @rottweilaboy55
    @rottweilaboy55 Год назад +3

    This movie was simply beautiful

  • @WilliamJames48
    @WilliamJames48 Год назад +1

    He said “Mercutio”.. Harold Perrineau comments “♥️”

  • @abcsoulchild9248
    @abcsoulchild9248 Год назад +4

    Unpopular opinion: The plot was meh. I didn’t really like how it was written. Namor did so much damage and then Shuri turned around and was like “we’ll protect your secret and your oceans” like huhhhh??? I was pissed lol smh

    • @artfulgod2645
      @artfulgod2645 Год назад +1

      I totally agree..really didn’t feel it…

  • @ht23media89
    @ht23media89 Год назад +2

    Cooler said “I knew it would be Klaue and Killmonger for the first one”. Not “We’d be calling Killmonger from the first one”.

  • @jakattak2403
    @jakattak2403 Год назад

    Love this channel!

  • @EricSeth
    @EricSeth Год назад +1

    Love the break down. Please finish Rings of Power.

  • @TaifaLarochelle
    @TaifaLarochelle Год назад

    the ending was well put.

  • @_thevuefinder
    @_thevuefinder Год назад +1

    This is such a good video!

  • @Chocolate10man
    @Chocolate10man Год назад +1

    I’m glad they didn’t end up going with N’Baku dying, he’s too good of a character to just kill off so soon

  • @AlexisAdrian0621
    @AlexisAdrian0621 Год назад +12

    BP WF is up there for my top 5 fav MCU films

  • @adonisbrewer1380
    @adonisbrewer1380 Год назад +5

    That kid looks just like Chad. How tf do they find these people lol

  • @roberttodd7136
    @roberttodd7136 Год назад

    Tachalla getting blipped is a great plot point

  • @cypher1133
    @cypher1133 Год назад +1

    A good movie with female lead can do really good, given the movie is actually good this movie is good example of that

  • @mimah1015
    @mimah1015 Год назад

    "He was too tired to read anything..."
    My eyes are blurry. 😭😭😭

  • @Zugondee
    @Zugondee Год назад +3

    EA Voss it's in the game

  • @lorddpablo9651
    @lorddpablo9651 Год назад

    This is beautiful

  • @syfthis
    @syfthis Год назад +2

    I really think they should have recasted Te'challa

  • @DreadwingDecepticon
    @DreadwingDecepticon Год назад +9

    Damn the first script would’ve been better, rip Chadwick

  • @sunshinehwy
    @sunshinehwy Год назад +2

    Wow that original draft sounds so good 😂😂

  • @faisalahmed3821
    @faisalahmed3821 Год назад +3

    In All Honesty And Truth Be Told, I Think Even If Chadwick Had Been Alive Upto The Point Of Starting To Film The Second BP, He Would Have Just Been Too Tired - As Someone Who Has Experience With Someone Going Through The Same Hell - It Would Have Made Sense To Kill Him Off Anyway. Sad But True. 😥 😔 ❤

  • @sweetcadi22
    @sweetcadi22 Год назад +7

    Can this be an episode in season two of What If?

  • @Thespeedrap
    @Thespeedrap Год назад +1

    Reviews are mixed with this movie I'm still contemplating on whether to see ift or not.

    • @GrimyApple2
      @GrimyApple2 Год назад +1

      It's great

    • @Tolu1x
      @Tolu1x Год назад +2

      Never understood this ideology. If the movie interests you see it and if not then don’t. Be your own person don’t rely on the words of others